Club Shay Shay - Humble Baddies - Boundaries, Beds, & Betrayals

Episode Date: July 22, 2025

Sharelle and Alexis react to a new relationship hack or is it just a big red flag, how to navigate when business meets friendship, and Tyler Perry revealed he had to fire his own aunt, and much more! ...Timeline: 00:00 - Introduction04:21 - Sleep Divorce15:23 - Business meets friendship30:07 - Tyler Perry39:31 - HOA put someone in jail (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 When I hit the town My Lex! Hey Alexis! Alexis! Hi, Kornay! It's been forever, you've been traveling and doing, in your bag, doing your big things. I've been watching, clapping from afar. Thank you. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:02:50 I had to go step to Vegas. It was around summer league time. So it was there with my daughters and my sister met me from LA. Shout out to them for making the trip. It was a girl's trip. It was like a sister's trip. And just spoke on a
Starting point is 00:03:05 panel for She's Got Time, Swincash, the Olympian, the ex-WNBA player has a platform for women in sports. And it was a summit, a two-day summit. So 400, 400 ladies and gents. And we were there, 400 ladies and gents, and we were there, you know, just spreading some love and giving some confidence booster. So shout out to all the ladies that attended and the ladies that I were on the panel with. It just was a good time. It was just, you know, refreshing. And I haven't been to Vegas, especially for summer league and like over 10 plus years. And I just, to go back full circle and to run into people that I haven't seen in a long time and just be there as Alexis was like really humbling
Starting point is 00:03:55 and very much fulfilling for me. And then to see my daughters, to see me, their mom and her like, you know, spreading joy and speaking on behalf of just like, you know, elevation and your journey. As well as, um, too, I hadn't seen her and she's expecting my nephew coming soon. So it just was good for her to get a little break too from her little family.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So it was just a beautiful time. I'm happy to be back. So here we are. Aw, you look well rested. Thank you, Queen. I feel I'm very much in a great healthy space. Yes, yes, I am. And you too, you were you've been you've been off and running. I listen the business is going amazing. I was in Houston, my team leader in Houston put on a big event for my agents there.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I had recruited some work. So it was an amazing event that went well. I fly back to Dallas. I fly to Texas. Dallas next. We're opening it up a sales office. So I'm gonna go there and support the team there. So it's been a good time. I'm gonna complain and then... to support the team there. So it's complain and then. Bycoastum. You were in LA? I know. You did to LA?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Oh yes, I went to LA for the next week. I love that hair by the way. Thank you. That hair in LA, yeah. Listen, my glam squad did what it needs to do. They showed up and showed out. Just last minute for me. So shout out to my glam squad for taking care of me. I had a good time.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Now I'm suffering because my ass can't sit down. Now I'm sick trying to hold it together. But you know what? I can't complain because I'm truly blessed. Yeah, we were just talking a little bit before we got started how we're just like happy, you know? We're just in a blessed life of living this beautiful life that we have, you know?
Starting point is 00:05:51 We're just, things are flowing, things are vibrant. Yeah. You know, we're just in a great space, right? That's who we are. We are, we definitely are. I'm living life. I travel in two weeks. I'm going back to my other home to go see my man, my man, my man.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Oh, that's updating me to do offline. So I'll be in Lagos for two weeks and then I come back and then I go to Dubai. I love that. But before I go to Dubai, I love that. Well, but before I go to Dubai, ship my daughter off to college. So we got to get her room together. It's a lot. Yes. Yes. Well, I mean, you know, it's number nonstop.
Starting point is 00:06:34 And speaking of rooms, that leads us into our first segment. Bedrooms to be specific. Yes. What's going on? Are you going to sleep divorce? I've never heard of sleep divorce. Okay. So sleep divorce, the new relationship hack or red flag. I have recently heard of it, but let me break it down to you. More couples are turning to sleep divorce where partners sleep in separate beds or even separate rooms. Which is different, you know, it's not very traditional. To improve their rest and reduce nighttime conflicts.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Celebs like Cameron praise it as a game changer. But is it a smart solution or a slippery slope? The science. Poor sleep can lead to irritability, weight gain, lower libido, and relationship tension. What are your thoughts? Like have you or anyone that you know prefers to have separate quarters when they sleep? I know, actually, when you think about it, I know a few people, my close friend,
Starting point is 00:07:40 I know some people who prefer to have their own room. So, and they love it. I think it's weird because if we're standing in the same household, I like to sleep next to my man. Like, we both butt naked, we cuddle together. Like, you ain't fit to be in no other room. What the hell? Like, uh-uh, bring your behind over here. But a lot of people love it.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Well, to be honest with you, where I'm at now in my next relationship, I would love separate quarters. Just because one, I was married for a long time and slept next to someone for a long time. So I get that. Oh, excuse me. Moving forward, to me, it's, I have like a
Starting point is 00:08:30 different schedule. It can be different schedules. And also you can spend the night in my room. It's okay to, you know, have a slumber party. Okay. So it's not like you're not, but I would prefer this is my space. And in this day of age of like dating and really getting to know somebody, they might not live in the same city and they have already established themselves. And like, for example, this is my children's home. So like low key, there's no space for somebody else
Starting point is 00:08:58 to come living up in here. We can go have another spot down the street somewhere, you know, you feel me? Or to go visit and wherever they live, they might have the same situation, who knows? So it's just like, I in this day and age now understand it. Again, with work schedules and timing and children and other lives,
Starting point is 00:09:20 you wanna have your space, you know? I think it's fair. I think, you know what? I agree with you in regards to it. I don't think it's not a bad thing. I know when it, like, I like to cuddle, but when I'm asleep, I'm asleep. I don't care where you at. But I'm nocturnal, so a lot of times,
Starting point is 00:09:37 I do a lot of work at night. I'm working at night and I don't want my person, my mate to think, oh, what you doing late at night on your computer't want my person, my mate to think, oh, what you doing late at night on your computer or on your phone? Like I'm always thinking of new ideas. So I'll be searching the craziest things at nighttime. It's like my mind just starts wondering
Starting point is 00:09:56 how to make more money. So I feel like, you know, it's not a bad idea to have that when you look at overall, but a lot of couple, a lot of relationships of my friends who do do this, they, they have, their relationships are great. They have, they don't have any problems. Well, I'm sure most people, if they did have another bedroom, most couples, they, especially if your spouse snores or they, they sweat at night.
Starting point is 00:10:23 You know what I mean? You're talking in the middle of the seat. They're sleeping at your machine. Yeah, they got the machine. Arrr. So like, I'm having their own space if they could afford it too. That's another thing.
Starting point is 00:10:38 I feel like sometimes we get stuck in there. What if there's like a newborn baby and they're crying and you know, it's just a lot. So it's just like, you know, it's a space. You never know. It could be, we could be healing couples around here. Cause I feel like that might be helpful. Cause to your point, like the work schedules, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:57 your international phone calls that are coming in and just like all these different things. So it's just like, respectfully for the person to get their sleep because sleep is extremely important. You're almost like, okay, go be in your room and I'll see you when I see you. And that's more fun and sexy anyway. You know, make it soundproof and.
Starting point is 00:11:19 But you know what, when I think about it, older people do it too. A lot of older people have their, like when they get to that point where they're not sexually active anymore. Oh, oh, oh, did you put that on there? Wait a minute. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Let me take that back to the back. Let me tell you. I know some 80 year old's still getting it in right now. Thank you, I want to say. Well maybe if one of their partners they sexually active, one of them, but I noticed a lot of elders do have their own rooms and they're still married, but they have their own quarters.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So it's a thing. I mean, if you think it all the way back to even like royalty, remember there was like the male dressing room, like and he had his bedroom and then she had her dressing room and her room and her quarters. That's the real thing, you know?
Starting point is 00:12:12 The sense, it's just, it's just a lot. You have choice. That's the beautiful thing. We have choice now. We got options. We have options. Yes. Is intimacy still a priority if you don't share a bed at night?
Starting point is 00:12:29 Yes. Yeah, right? You would almost like set up some dates, right? Like, okay, meet me in my room or you could not, you know, like. Set up some special. Yeah, I think it might be sexier too. Baby, come here, let me show you something. And be.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Throw the head in the circle. Yeah, definitely, get up. You know, put on a show. Lay up, y'all. Yeah, you know, we got options. No, I think it definitely can be more fun. And then also when you have someone that's not as clean as you.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Ah, that's a good point. So I think it definitely can keep the tension down. I like that. I like that. That makes a lot of sense actually. Actually I'm for it. So you might be for it now, huh? I would be for it.
Starting point is 00:13:22 I would be for it. Well welcome on over. I'm down for it. I would be for it. Well, welcome, welcome on over. I'm down for it. But I know it's probably just not traditional and people, you know, again, to meet own rules, it's they have to live with each other, they have to be with each other. So it's whatever your rules are in the bedroom, at your house that you pay for your relationship, you know. So if other people think it's weird. Honestly, I think more people should adapt to it. I think it would make the relationship, it would spice the relationship back up that, you know, the normal do everybody, you both get in bed, you both lay down, do you want to, you get complacent when you're having sex.
Starting point is 00:14:05 The one two step. Oh yeah, you know the boom, boom, boom, roll over, fall asleep. No, I think it would spice it up. Okay. I think so too, actually. Get a little role playing going. Some outfits. I can hide little toys, places.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You know what I mean? Exactly. Everything is shared. You can't hide that. Right, right. I'm an advocate for it. So yeah, that's what's gonna happen. I'm down with that. Yes, yes. I love that. I'm down with that. Yes, yes, I love that. Yeah. That's choosing sleep overnight. It's, oh, you already said that. Is this a sign of a healthy boundary or quiet disconnection?
Starting point is 00:14:53 I think we both agree that it's- A healthy boundary. It's definitely a healthy boundary. Yeah. But you know, some people ain't like that. Some people want, they partner- And that's fine. Up on a 24 seven, and that's fine.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah, that's fine. Up on 24 seven and that's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Have you or you know someone who tried sleep divorce? Yes, I do. Oh wait, it's called sleep divorce though. But I don't think that's the name. Yeah. It's just, we'll just say sleeping in separate quarters or something
Starting point is 00:15:23 because it's not a divorce. Maybe I guess from the bedroom, the room, the room, the room. No, no more. I'm booming. You got options. We got options. Yeah. Yeah. We got options. I remember like even just like in Europe to how the beds are like separated and then you have to, and they're smaller. But it used to be where everyone just would sleep separately,
Starting point is 00:15:50 but in the same room too. See, I can't do that. So times have changed. It has. But you know, when you go to your, when you're not married, and you go to your parents' home, that make you homes, that used to be fun. Until you're married. Until you, yes, until you married.
Starting point is 00:16:08 That's the rule. Ain't no shacking up in my house. Yeah, nah, that's the rule. But you still sneak in that other room? I would, you know what, no, because I'm like scared. Like I don't wanna be like, I could wait. I don't want to be like, I could wait. That's the best part.
Starting point is 00:16:26 No, I could wait. But here's the deal. I'm like, y'all stand with me. It's different rules over here. Okay. That's true. Well, you got to sneak into it. That's the best part.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Yeah, that is actually fun. Well, shout out to the, what they call it, sleep divorce people. I think more people should give it a try. Yeah, welcome on the side of the road, Sherelle. I like it. I can dig with it. But see the thing, my man is far. So it's different for us.
Starting point is 00:17:03 But even when you go see him, it's still exciting. We ain't sleeping in two different rooms. Well, I get it. But that's temporary. But that makes it even more perfect. But you're in two different households. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah. Yeah, I like that, though. I like the long distance relationship. It works out great. I can focus on my business. I can focus on my job. It's healthy. They know it.
Starting point is 00:17:32 It's very, very healthy. All right, have you been seeing the tea that's been going on on the shared room? The girls are fighting. And you know what? I love Portia and Shamil friendship. They had an amazing friendship but they've been going back and forth.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Shamil. Shamil. I didn't say it wrong. Did I say it wrong? I think Shamil. I think you did. Just in case. Yes, Shamil, like I do feel like, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:03 when you come on a platform, especially with reality TV, it can affect your friendships. It definitely can. So the line between loyalty and opportunity can blur quickly when friends work together. A lot of people probably see, you know, they were saying, oh, Portia didn't want Shamil on there, but Shamil,
Starting point is 00:18:28 but Portia showed, Portia showed, you know, her love and she was like, you know, welcome to, you know, you got the peach, she sent her flowers. But it's just like, I don't know if I would work with my best friend on TV because I know how reality TV can affect a relationship, a friendship. It's not worth it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It's a lot of pressure when you are on the spotlight, especially for national consumption. And so, um, your friendship really does stand a test of, it's a test and really low key. And that's why you see like a lot of marriages are not, they don't make it through and relationships don't make it through reality TV too, because now it's so much exposure from each other. So I just look at it like,
Starting point is 00:19:21 it can be bittersweet because now you have other people in your business and everybody's in your relationship. But at the same time, if that lets you know that the roots of that friendship weren't strong from the beginning, you know, and then to the point where they're just now, it's coming out and airing out for us to see, it's kind of sad, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:42 So I just, I hope they can get it together. You know what I mean? And maybe off camera when they're not filming, really like pour back into each other. Cause you know, that's when you have like children involved. I'm sure they're friends, you know, their daughters, their children are friends and they've been hanging out. And you know, this world is very small.
Starting point is 00:20:02 So if you, if there's a few people that you can bond with and really connect with, you should try to make it work. You know, it's just unfortunate. That's true. You know, I feel like... I'm not going to say all of it, but a portion of, like that's why I said, I probably would never post my relationship, you know, on social media or do anything involving TV relationship, you know, on social media or do anything involving TV
Starting point is 00:20:27 with, you know, in a relationship because it does. It's like, paint it. You get to... Yes, it is. And you feel like you get to a point where you got to prove the world, you know, you know, I'm not going to stand for this. I'm going gonna show. It's so many things that you're fighting for that really is irrelevant, because you're not there to basically make them happy, make the world happy. And I feel like social media and the reality TV can ruin a lot of things. So you just have to take in consideration,
Starting point is 00:21:06 is it really worth it? Yeah, I don't think it's worth it at all. It just, it's already tough, you know, being in the public eye. It's already tough being in a relationship without being in the public eye. So when you're adding all these levels and all these factors, it just becomes heavy. And to already find someone in this world, just to be in a relationship in general, is
Starting point is 00:21:33 already hard enough. So the fact that it gets kind of highlighted and then really talked about and ripped apart is devastating and hard. It just makes it the task of already trying to bond two people together into one already hard and it like just makes it harder. I would, going forward, I could be married right now and people wouldn't know, except for the ones that needs. My Uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about.
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Starting point is 00:22:56 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Kelly Harnett spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit. I'm 100% innocent. While behind bars, she learned the law from scratch. Because oh God, Harnett, jailhouse lawyer. And as she fought for herself, she also became a lifeline for the women locked up alongside her. You're supposed to have faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her.
Starting point is 00:23:27 So many of these women had lived the same stories. I said, were you a victim of domestic violence? And she was like, yeah. But maybe Kelly could change the ending. I said, how many people have gotten other incarcerated individuals out of here? I'm going to be the first one to do that. This is the story of Kelly Harnett, a woman who spent 12 years fighting not just for her own freedom,
Starting point is 00:23:54 but her girlfriends too. I think I have a mission from God to save souls by getting people out of prison. The Girlfriends, Jailhouse Lawyer. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president?
Starting point is 00:24:40 Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control. And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:25:39 Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American history hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You got married on this list. You know, I'm just saying I will just keep it very private.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It would be not for public consumption and it would be 100% like, you know, just a private matter amongst people who know. What's up? Who need to know. Yeah, that's it, need to know basis. Yeah. Yes, girl. The less they know, the less you have to worry about. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:36 And people in your business. Yeah, cause you know, people don't want you really too happy. They really don't. And that's tough situation too, because, you know, I don't know if this happened for you, but like even when people break up, or when they're like on television, like how we were,
Starting point is 00:26:54 you get these envious and jealous and this extra energy of just like competition and just heavy, you know, it's just a lot. So we, you know, friends are coming out the woodwork and then like the ones that you've been holding, they've been holding you down, you changed or? Oh my goodness, that one, you get that a lot. So it's just like, you like, what are we, what are you,
Starting point is 00:27:15 you can't win for losing. You know, it's like, what do you want to do? I definitely get that a lot. I get that a lot from the friends. I get people still now watching the show, coming at me on Twitter. I had to clap back at somebody this weekend and I said, I was gonna work on it, Lex.
Starting point is 00:27:31 I said I was gonna work on it, but I had time that night. I was laying in bed minding my own business and this lady just came out of nowhere. You know what I, you know what, you know what I'm gonna teach you real quick? I don't appreciate what you said. You're entitled to what, you know, your opinion, but that was mean.
Starting point is 00:27:49 You know what I told her to do? No, I know, what, what, what, what? Get your old ass off X and go back over to Facebook where you belong. Of course, okay. Next time though, I'm defusing this, okay? We're not doing this. Lex, I can't, these people be,
Starting point is 00:28:07 cause these people be telling, I know we get upset, these people be telling you about your life that you don't even know about. They know your life better than you. I'm trying to tell you, the main thing we gotta do is just tell them it's not me. I mean, every now and then somebody, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:22 I was doing that, but I feel like I needed to retaliate a little bit. Regressed? Yes. I feel like I needed, you know, we're all human. Yes, we are. The Lord knows my heart. You're working progress.
Starting point is 00:28:37 The Lord knows my heart. Okay. He know I'm trying. Change don't come overnight. No, it doesn't. It doesn't. Slow and steady win the race. And I'm slowly and steady changing.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Well, I'm happy for you. But I'm still gonna be petty every now and then. Somebody gonna catch you at that right or wrong time. Now it's the right time. And they gonna catch it on behalf of everybody else you let slide. The wrath, the wrath of rail. Beware. Hell rail. Oh no.
Starting point is 00:29:17 They be so miserable. You're miserable now you this. I'm living my best life. But they don't know that either. That's true. It's just what people don't know. Just, it's better. Sometimes you gotta give them a friendly reminder. Nah, sometimes, you know. They'll feel it.
Starting point is 00:29:41 You always talking on this journey. You always on this peace journey. I need you to turn up one time. I'll turn up if I need to. You know that. I need you to be on my side one time and say real. Yeah. Pop that shit.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Talk that stuff real. Just people take things and run with it. We on a healing journey right now. Yes, I'm tired. I've been healing for so long. Sometimes I just wanna open up the band-aid. You get me with that? We're happy right now.
Starting point is 00:30:12 We're happy and healthy and we're vibrant. That's what we just gonna keep manifesting. I hear you, Lek. Okay. Woosah. Woosah. Woosah, baby. Have you ever worked with a close friend and you felt like the friendship, doing business with that friend, it can cause some turmoil in the friendship? I feel like it is a tough space to be.
Starting point is 00:30:38 You want people that are really low key looking out for you, that have your back, that support you. So I haven't had anyone personally that I worked with because it's been very like, I respect everyone's lane because I know I'm not great at everything and I need help. So respectfully, if it's a friendship, it becomes a partnership. So, and I don't ever want to like, you know, make my friends feel cheated or less than. So I feel like I'm always giving my best foot forward. So that way we have that rapport.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And if it's money involved, obviously, and it's reputation on the line, I want the best people there to represent me as I'm representing them. So I haven't had any of those issues, but I have seen it. It's tough because it's like now you have to show up and be your work. I'm just using me as example, your work Alexis compared to like now your friend Alexis. And if your foundation isn't like solid
Starting point is 00:31:40 and they don't really, really know you and it's more of a competitive nature, then it's gonna be some issues. Cause now those cracks will be revealed and you know, now that foundation is gonna start to like shift a little bit. So it takes, it takes two strong people that really respect each other and understand
Starting point is 00:31:57 what that friendship is from the beginning. Like it's a partnership and you supposed to respect your friends, you know, like you're supposed to love on them.. You supposed to talk love into them. You're supposed to write or staring back in the right direction. And if you mean well, it'll flow well. For me, I actually, um, my best friend for over 17 years, Christina, um, she, we worked together. She runs the, you know, she's a co-partner with me
Starting point is 00:32:27 on Allure, I brought her on. She runs the Northwest coast of Allure and we work so great together. And I don't take the position like, because I built the Allure, I don't take the position like it's my, my, my, my. I like to stand behind and, you know, let her be the face sometimes and speak on it.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Because it's, I feel like our friendship comes before any money, any business, anything. As long as we're good, she's a great business partner and I respect her opinion and I, you know, I respect what she brings to the table. So I will not allow notoriety or just fame or whatever to take over our friendship. And that's good leadership on your end too.
Starting point is 00:33:13 When we are able to give the reins to someone else and really be like, that's that. Even though you did build something or we build, we're founders, we do all these things. To let somebody like go ahead and step before you and represent you, that lets you know that it's trust too. You know? So it's like you built trust, there's a loyalty between it and you want the business to be
Starting point is 00:33:35 better. You want, you again, respect her space and you respect her lane and that's trust. So it's a nice mutual respect and trust. So I think it's dope. And I say, I- Beneficial. With us, like we may, we work together. We do things, you, myself and Ashley,
Starting point is 00:33:55 we argue at times, but we still know how to respect each other and bring it back in. And I think that's the biggest thing when you have respect and you know, like my friendship is worth more than this little catty stuff. We talk it out. You may argue one day, but we talk it out and it's like, oh, nothing ever happened.
Starting point is 00:34:13 But when you allow it to hit public and just, you gotta rear it back in before it gets out of control. Yeah, cause it definitely can get motion in the wrong direction for sure. Yeah. Yep, that's true. Can friendship truly survive when money and opportunity are involved?
Starting point is 00:34:35 I think the money thing is tough, just because I'm sure we both been in positions where people have asked for money. And most of the time we don't, they're not asking for the exact amount. Everything's gotten rounded up, you know, on my end, it's never been like $24 and 92 cents. You know what I mean? I think we just, we've been, when money comes involved, that's when it becomes a little tricky because when you're giving somebody something
Starting point is 00:35:11 and loaning them something, it's just very much, you don't expect it back, you know? But then when it's a lot of money involved and you're like expecting things to come back and return, that's when the financial part becomes tricky, just because you're just like, I need that back. You know, I got kids to feed. And they just expect that maybe, oh no, you got it.
Starting point is 00:35:32 You can take the loss. You got it. It's the principle, you know what I mean, of like. And then you see them going out, patients doing this, what are they money at? Bottles, everything. I've lost some friends over some things like that because it's like your appr-
Starting point is 00:35:49 I helped you when you needed help. And it's not like I'm ex- If you're gonna, it's a difference. Hey, I need this. Hey, I wanna borrow this and I promise I'll pay back. Don't say, if you know you ain't gonna pay it back, don't say just, can I get this? But when you saying you gonna pay something back,
Starting point is 00:36:06 I expect my money to be paid back. I don't care if it's- Yes, it's still the principle. And as business women, that's what we expect. Exactly. Just as- Speaking of money. What?
Starting point is 00:36:18 Tyler Perry, ultimatums and family entitlement. Woo, this is a good one. So Tyler Perry did do a, he recently revealed he had to fire his own aunt after she stopped showing up for the job he gave her. He also mentioned setting strict financial boundaries with his family and not everyone liked it.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Let's talk about how important it is to protect your peace, even if it's from the blood. Oh my goodness. I think we all can tell these stories. Yes, we can. I mean, I'm low key dealing with it now with my children. You know, it's two different households now and they're getting older.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So the bills are getting larger, meaning tuitions and meaning cars and insurances and all these things. And at the end of the day, I'm teaching them financial literacy and also financial responsibility of budgeting. Like you guys have cars and you have an allowance. 19th of the month, you asking for more money. Where did your money go? of the month, you asking for more money. Where did your money go? You know, if you have vehicles,
Starting point is 00:37:26 that means you have to budget for gas. If you have, you know, if you go training and you need food, you have to budget for that. So, you know, it's about that time where they understand the meaning of, you know, your mom and daddy got it, but y'all have, we paying for school, we've invested, you know, your mom and I, your mom and daddy got it, but y'all have we paying for school, we've invested, you know, all this money into your education and rearing you and molding you. And we are setting you guys up for
Starting point is 00:37:56 success. So go be great. And you need to budget like a student should like a, you know, it's so, you know. I feel you. Yeah. My daughter feels the same way. I gotta say no. My daughter, my daughter shop,
Starting point is 00:38:11 she have shopping bags and everything coming in here. I had to look at the damn A-mex. I had to freeze her cart like, girl, what is you doing? You just shopping away panting, using because I did add her as an authorized user, but she, she can't do that. You done got to a point where it's like, okay, mama gonna be busy, so let me,
Starting point is 00:38:31 like she got the times of when she know she can shop. And try to get them bags in here before the- Wait a minute, where is your job? Where are they going? Exactly, she get her allowance, but the thing about it is you are a young adult now. You can't just be spending money thinking
Starting point is 00:38:52 because you think mommy got it and I'm going to owe it. No. I cut it off. Go find a job. Yes, and they're very capable. Yeah. But you know what? I blame it on myself because growing up as a child,
Starting point is 00:39:09 I didn't have it all. And I always say, you know, I don't want my kids to go through what I went through, you know, like having to, not having things, but I feel like it's a gift and a curse because now it's making them feel especially, it's so entitled. So entitled.
Starting point is 00:39:27 The Christmas lists get crazy and crazier each year. It's like, no, y'all gotta work for this. Now I wish I would have had them working. I was working at the age of 15. I give this girl $100, she's like, what is this? And they're almost like, that's not enough for nothing. It's not. A bill that can be made for us was like,
Starting point is 00:39:50 we would make that stretch for the whole week. Like, or than that low key. Like you, that was movies, that was hanging out, that was everything. Now, they're just like, a hundred is for what? What I'm gonna do with this? What you mean? What you gonna do? What kind of lifestyle you living that they feel like you need more than a hundred dollars to go eat somewhere?
Starting point is 00:40:12 Yeah, I'm definitely turning to my mom. We have all that food at home. Exactly. I'm not giving y'all no money. Y'all ain't, I'm putting off the cards. No more Uber Eats. Eat what's in this house. Yeah, and it's a lot of them.
Starting point is 00:40:27 They have to realize it's not just them either. It's not a lot, it's just, it's four. We gotta do this a long time. So you guys are old enough to get a job, to budget and to figure it out. If not, it's a boat. It's not even just the kids. It's your parents too. It's your parents, it's your family.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Oh my goodness. Your dad, what's your dad say? The baby needs some, what is your baby? The baby, look, oh, he got it down pat, boy. He be hustling, Chad and I. He got it down pat. I'll be like, he'll be like, yeah, the baby, he can't say, he can't say pull ups,
Starting point is 00:41:06 no, but that's me going out to those Serenity potty. Um, the baby want to go to the water park. The baby wants to go to the water park. Serenity got a pool out back. What you mean she want to go to the water park? You just want to waste money. Can you send some money for this? I said, when the last time you asked Chad for some money, he'll go ghost. You don't hear nothing. Then he'll have Serenity call me. Oh, then she calls you. Then she'll call.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Then Denim will call. We want to go to the water park. Papa said it, you see his shadow. You see his shadow by the kids. I said, oh. I said, he got him trained very well. So I have to put him on a budget. Right, everyone has to be put on a budget.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I just sent you $500. Yeah. And the water park is not $500. That park. It's like, it's like you raising kids again. Same with my mom. Order this from me from this place. Send me money for this.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Nope, I decline. Nope, nope. Y'all need to learn how to budget y'all money. We, it's like we become the parents now. Absolutely. It's like we become the parents now. Absolutely. It's crazy. But back to Tyler Perry, you know who else is strict too? Even though they're billionaires,
Starting point is 00:42:39 they had to put a limit on letting their family borrow. Jay-Z spoke about it as well. Do you remember that? When it was one of his family members asked for, I think like 4,500 for a business opportunity and they was gonna bring back 2 million or something and he turned it down. No, that's not how I operate.
Starting point is 00:43:00 But that is why the most powerful word is no. And that's how you keep money because the more, like I feel like people, especially family members can take advantage of those things and they always feel like, oh, they got it, they got it. No, you gotta work for it. We both have the same 24 hours. And people don't realize that you wanted to last.
Starting point is 00:43:25 Like you wanna keep generating it and you want it to be, you know, for the children, you want everyone to be comfortable. So when you start exceeding it and like overdoing it, and that's when you start to really get in trouble with it. You know what I mean? You want it for a long time. You want it for. No No, that's definitely true. I think families, they just see you have all this money
Starting point is 00:43:51 coming in or they look at, see what your net worth is, see how you're living, but they don't understand like what you have in your household. All the things that you have to take care of. And the emergencies and everything, everything. Also all the the things that you have to take care and Emergencies and everything everything the same with my daughter. I broke it down to her I said, you know, I don't just pay my mortgage my car note your car note my two car notes your car note I don't just pay that the insurance. I still have a business My uncle Chris is definitely somebody worth talking about.
Starting point is 00:44:28 He was the kind of guy that lived in a trailer with an ex-con and a retired stripper, left loaded machine guns laying around, drank a bottle of whiskey a night, claimed he could kill a man with his bare hands, drove a garbage truck for a living, spoke fluent Spanish with a thick southern accent, and is currently buried in a crypt alongside the founding families of Panama. Listen to the Uncle Chris podcast to hear all about him and a whole lot more. Wild stories about adventure, romance, crime, history, and war intertwine as I share the tall tales
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Starting point is 00:45:19 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Kelly Harnett spent over a decade in prison or wherever you listen to podcasts. Kelly Harnett spent over a decade in prison for a murder she says she didn't commit. I'm 100% innocent. While behind bars, she learned the law from scratch. Because oh God, Harnett, jailhouse lawyer. And as she fought for herself, she also became a lifeline
Starting point is 00:45:43 for the women locked up alongside her. You're supposed to have faith in God, but I had nothing but faith in her. So many of these women had lived the same stories. I said, were you a victim of domestic violence? And she was like, yeah. But maybe Kelly could change the ending. I said, how many people have gotten other incarcerated individuals out of here? I'm going to be the first one to do that. This is the story of Kelly Harnett, a woman who spent 12 years fighting not just for her
Starting point is 00:46:15 own freedom, but her girlfriends too. I think I have a mission from God to save souls by getting people out of prison. The Girlfriends, Jailhouse Lawyer. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So what happened at Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to. There are many versions of what happened in 1969
Starting point is 00:46:41 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car into a pond. And left a woman behind to drown. There's a famous headline, I think, in the New York Daily News. It's, Teddy escapes, blonde drowns. And in a strange way, right, that sort of tells you. The story really became about Ted's political future, Ted's political hopes. Will Ted become president? Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death and how the Kennedy machine took control.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And he's not the only Kennedy to survive a scandal. The Kennedys have lived through disgrace, affairs, violence, you name it. So is there a curse? Every week we go behind the headlines and beyond the drama of America's royal family. Listen to United States of Kennedy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is glory.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they love to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar and Jefferson writes in his diary. This proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said. It would have been harder to fake it than to do it.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Listen to American history hotline on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My lease alone is crazy. I say, y'all don't see, y'all may see what's coming in. You may see that, but you don't see what's going out. Like y'all have to understand that money just don't fall from the tree. Yeah. And again, if they have support, they have to understand
Starting point is 00:48:47 that if we're there to support them for the long run, we've been doing this long enough to where we are like making you comfortable enough to like, you can come to us when there's some, those emergencies, but at the same time, you're very much capable. We have invested very heavily in our friends and our family, you know, really our family, our core family. We've invested in them, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:10 for them the opportunities to be good humans. So go be great. We got you. But go be great. It's tough love. I'm, that word no is very powerful. I've been saying that a lot lately and I love it. I feel great.
Starting point is 00:49:25 It took me a long time to be able to say. Isn't it liberating? It feels so good now. No, I'm sorry. No. Can't do it. No. Not this time.
Starting point is 00:49:38 No. No. No. No, no, no, no. No, no. No. No, no, no, no. No. No. Yes.
Starting point is 00:49:49 We got to stop enabling our family members. Yes. Listen. We doing it. Next subject. Oh my goodness. I was hot. Did you hear about the HOA?
Starting point is 00:50:01 Put a lady in jail for 10 days. Right here. Oh really, so I mean, is it an advantage to have a H.O.A. or a disadvantage to have a H.O.A.? I hate H.O.A. Okay, so. It's a disadvantage. Cause one it's fee.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I hate it. I remember that. And then they just think that they are pretty much public service that they can really, they have that like this power, you know, like, oh, if your shrubs are this high, then you're gonna be, or if your fence is too low or the grass is not cut. But I mean, aesthetically for the neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:50:43 you want good, but yeah. Because your property values and your home is your most expensive purchase. So you wanted the neighborhood to be up to par. It is, but I feel like some HOAs, so before we get into it, so what happened was basically, a lady had to spend 10 days in jail
Starting point is 00:51:05 line due to her HOA. Yes, jail. HOAs were created to maintain neighborhood standards, but some have become many dictatorships. Are they helping homeowners or harassing them? I feel like with this situation, I did watch the, she did a report, an interview with one of the reporters
Starting point is 00:51:26 and she basically fixed everything that needed to be fixed. I think it was some of her grads that was messed up. Her mailbox, she, I guess they had a court date for the HOA had sent something was, she didn't get the notification that she had to go to court. And they ruled that she go to jail because she failed to go to that court date.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But to go to that extent, to put somebody in jail, this lady have kids, like, you don't know people's financial situations. Because I mean, it costs a lot. Shoot, I got a letter saying my grass, I need to put some old St. Augustine out in my front yard because I have little dry spots. Say, daddy, can you go get the St. Augustine grass and redo it?
Starting point is 00:52:18 I'm not buying that. We could go get some seeds. So his behind thought he was fixing the grass. I had to call the people out here to get most of it. I just seen grass out there. But it's like, it's crazy because it's like, do y'all have something else better to do? Like it could be a little tiny little patch and they tripping. Yeah. And I understand, but to go as far as to put somebody in jail, that's crazy. understand, but to go as far as to put somebody in jail. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:44 And you can get the wrong one that is basically the tyrant that's going around being extremely picky. We have a code enforcement that goes around the city here where I am, but that's for construction. That's for them not to, because I look up, you can start construction in my neighborhood at 7 a.m. and it's from like seven to seven, which is insane. And I'm just like, you're hearing nothing but hammering, but I'm like, that should be
Starting point is 00:53:15 more of a code enforcement, less building. And it's the noise ordinance and things like that. But I don't have an HOA. I used to have one. And they weren't as strict, but everyone, I love the static of everyone's grass was cut. Everyone's homes were taken care of because it is great for the, you know,
Starting point is 00:53:38 just for the, what you're paying for essentially. That's true. You know, it's the obby fly. It comes to a point where y'all get ridiculous. I think, you know, I have a beautiful neighborhood. Everybody stay up to par with, you know, how their yards are, but to go to that point, it should be some type of, yeah, it should be at some point where,
Starting point is 00:54:03 okay, enough is enough. Because y'all love volunteers. Y'all need to find something else to do. Volunteers. They are volunteers. They don't get paid to be on the way to work. Right, you just live in the neighborhood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Everybody want to be power-struck. Like, chill, chill, chill, chill. They'll get to a point if if so I have the pavers. If you have a spring of grass growing out of it, you get a letter from nature. Oh man. And what if you just don't see it? Like damn, what y'all running around with? But a magnifying glass? Y'all run around with just A magnifying glass? Y'all running around with...
Starting point is 00:54:49 Just get your ass off the damn golf course and come pluck the damn grass that's growing out of there. It's three little strings coming up out the pavement. That's not strict. I would be heartbroken if I had to go to jail off of my paint being chipped or something. Like, that would be devastating. I felt bad for, like, oof, baby. It would have been World War III in that neighborhood. Yeah, because then you coming back out and you like,
Starting point is 00:55:17 I'm coming right after you now. Now it's like animosity in the neighborhood, which is even worse. But you know what? Someone was saying that they try to do that to try to weed certain people out of neighborhoods to force you to sell. Because it's like you did pick on certain people, it could be a certain type of people
Starting point is 00:55:38 you trying to force them to sell. So you're gonna keep on nagging at them, nagging at them. Like I had enough and some people can't take that. Yeah. But it's not right. And I hope she don't sell her home. Don't let nobody force you up out of your place. Do what you gotta do. But HOA have so many, it's like,
Starting point is 00:55:55 they can even foreclose on you. Yeah, you're right. It's a lot of fine print when you get that thick stack of papers when you're signing over for your largest purchase of your life, the home, your livelihood, you know, this can be tough.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I, the only good thing, you know, I watched, have you ever watched the show Hoarders? I would be livid if I had a neighbor that had like trash and all of that extra stuff. Old, broke down cars. Yeah, so like low key, I had a neighbor that had like trash and all of that extra. Old, broke down cars. Yeah, so like low key, like that would be the, those, the noise, the construction of that.
Starting point is 00:56:33 And really like, you know, if there's any, any kind of like violence going on or any crime, that's the only kind of protection I would need, you know? Like it would be the hoarders and that's spilling out to animals, all of that stuff. That's when we would need some code enforcement. Other than that, I don't want anybody being a tyrant, telling us about paint, telling them about the grass. I feel like it should be a standard, but the fact that you gotta go through the HOA
Starting point is 00:57:06 to submit for your pool plans, all your privacy, it's just to a point where I bought this house. Y'all didn't put money in on this house to do in my backyard. Or add to or subtract from. Yes, it has its pros and its cons, but I feel like there should be a... Some places, some neighborhoods just take it too serious.
Starting point is 00:57:36 Like you gotta pull back, because for her to go to jail for 10 days for that bull crap, it's insane. Well, that's something to look at, when you're looking at properties, to ask the neighbors, what do you think about your HOA before you get to that purchase? I think that would be a void for me.
Starting point is 00:57:56 If I'm riding around and I'm looking for a property in a neighborhood when I'm raising children and I'm paying for it, I best believe I don't wanna be harassed, leaving my house every day. That's just a question. The camera and the golf cart running around taking pictures. Uh-uh, uh-uh. Let me rate you up.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Right here behind on the road. I'm gonna rate you up. No, too much. I'm a mess. But, too much. Oh man. Yeah. But it's crazy. Yes. Real estate insights.
Starting point is 00:58:31 You know what? There was another neighborhood, and I was happy to hear that because I sell a lot in that neighborhood where they were taking on, when the interest rates was low, it was companies going around purchasing a lot of homes. And at one point, they probably bought like a hundred homes from this developer. And at one point they started opening, beautiful neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:59:01 they started opening it up to section 8. And the homes, the other homes in the neighborhood are like 800,000, you know 700,000. And then you had an area where another builder came in there and the homes probably went for 300,000. And now when you bring in that, you know, Section 8 into there, you got, the crime went up in there, everything. So HOA had to come in and enforce like after this, no more Section 8, because you're basically bringing the value down.
Starting point is 00:59:40 With the crime that's going up, you know, renters are not taking care of their yards. It's just, it was... So I feel like, you know, it does have its pros and its cons, but when some people are on a power... power... Oh, I can't talk.
Starting point is 00:59:59 They sprung out and trying to just be in high demand because they probably was bullied so much in school and they feel like they suffer from the little man syndrome. They just get carried away. Yeah, I agree. HOAs, y'all got to get better. I can't, I ain't gonna complain though. I like my HOA, but they do be pissing me off
Starting point is 01:00:21 when they send a picture talking about you got three little strains. You got three little strains coming out your grout. But overall, I can't complain. We don't have humble baddies mailed tonight. Right? You got it? No, I don't.
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