Club Shay Shay - Humble Baddies - Breakfast Club Drama: Jess Hilarious vs. Loren Lorosa + Sexyy Red talk criticism

Episode Date: March 27, 2025

Sharelle, Ashley, and Alexis react to the drama between Breakfast Club co-hosts Jess Hilarious and Loren Lorosa, Kylie Jenner saying she's the original baddie, Sexxy Red explaining why she's the most hated rapper in hip-hop, Ashanti explaining the real reason she married Nelly, and more!00:00 - Intro07:11 - Kylie Jenner, The Original Baddie?14:38 - Is Sexxy Red the most hated rapper?25:06 - Nelly dishes on marriage with Ashanti46:40 - Jess Hilarious vs. Loren Lorosa54:00 - Humble Baddies Mailbag(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Potter Rebellion on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, welcome back. We are here for another episode of the Humble Baddies podcast. I'm here, Ashley Nicole, and I got my girls with me. I'm Sharron Sottle. And I'm Alexis Stoudemire. We are the Olafaddy.

Yes. What's up, y'all? Happy Hump Day. We are back. It's Wednesday. Everybody good? What's everybody been up to? Sherrell, good to see you. I'm looking real clear. Talk about him today. Real clear.

Yeah, your Wi-Fi is today. OK, are you still in the motherlands? Well, I am. OK, what's going on over there? What's that? I had two people go up on the contract yesterday. Well, hey, it's still yesterday because it's one o'clock. Okay.

I mean, congratulations. And we it's the bell. Ding, ding, ding. That's awesome. Well, I just came back from the beach, you know, it's great. So actually though, there were like, it's great Well, actually though There were like it was very calm in South Beach. Like there's no spring breakers It's I was like where are the people at?

So, you know they put out that commercial like they didn't they did not want spring breakers in South Beach I love them from South Beach up in South Beach and I love that. From South Beach up. Right now, though, I was there before. They're not there. Last week, I was there and I get pulled over. So I have my front window. But I have a doctor's letter because I get headaches when the sun

just shine bright on me every time I get pulled over. The police. They pull you over, get your veterans tag and everything. Everything. And I was like, sorry, you with. Oh, well, anyway, I thought it was going to be crazy crowds out there. I thought it was going to be girls going wild out there, but it was not. It was real calm and cool and collected. I heard all the spring breakers are in, like, Fort Lauderdale now.

I mean, you knowuderdale now. How we would be. They up north. How we would be. They probably up Daytona Beach, like those other beaches, because South Beach not having it. Yeah. And speaking of spring break, my babies are on spring break

and it's actually been very quiet around the house because they are with their dad. So I'm low key having an adult spring break. You know, it's a lot between school, work, all these things that the children are balancing to and us parents who monitor their calendars and have to schlep them all over the place. We need this break, too, as spring breakers, you know, the parents. But I have an extra spring break just because I get to have a quiet home.

So like I'm living in paradise over here enjoying it only cooking for one a little key You know things like that and kind of can move when I want to move so I I appreciate that so shout out to the co-parent for You know holding it down over there while the boys are in the girl, you know a raise in and out But like the boys he got the boy, so I'm having I'm having a good time over here I sent my kids on a cruise with it. Oh, I love that. Oh, no But they came back sick my both my daughter and denim they have the stomach virus is from the cruise my daughter and denim, they have the stomach virus. It's from the cruise.

Oh man, that's the worst, especially coming off a vacation. You want to have a good time and not be worrying about that. None of that stuff. Yeah, I can't do it. I just finished my last lab guys in culinary school. Oh, congratulations. Thank you so much. So I'm like double celebrating this quiet.

I'm taking care of business. Yes. So when can we officially call you? Almost. I have an entrepreneurship class and then externship in a commercial kitchen. And then you can call me chef. Um, OK. Well, the question is, when are you going to cook? Oh, you can always have some food. Okay. The $30 question is when are you going to cook? Oh, you can always have some food.

I'm always cooking. We come in for Shabbat. Yes, thank you so much. Let's do that. I'm down. Since the house is empty, we'll come and fill it up. We'll come and fill our bellies. Thank you.

My house is always open. Always, always, always. Well, I want to give a shout out to my mom That because she is officially Dr. Yvette. I know that okay. Oh gee humble baby. Yeah He's just recently Actually yesterday I logged in and watched her defend her thesis She is getting her she got her doctorate in I think like education something something something. I don't know. It don't matter. But she's a doctor

now. Okay. So she's a dress her as so mommy I am so proud of this. I love you so much. And go you girl you did your thing. So proud. And she going around saying that to like address me as I'm a bad girl. Can cry her name out. But I know that's right. That's the OK, she earned that. She made that out to Dr. Roberts, the original OG. I'm a baddie.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. OK, well, let's get into it now that we didn't caught up and, you know, I'm seeing everybody. Everybody's good. Everybody's living and thriving. Let's get into the first topic. The first topic we have is Kylie Jenner sparks reactions after calling herself the original baddie in new photos. Did any of you all see that? That's cute. But it's a miss because, Carly, now you know, girl, you are not the original daddy. Let's be young to be the original anything.

I mean, what was she referring to? Like, let's break it down. Let's put out original. Original meaning like the like, original means OG. First of all, put some respect on Kim Kardashian. Yes, Ashley. Because if it wasn't for Kim, it would be no you. Like, for real, like, like Kim Kardashian, if we talking about the OG, she's the OG. Like, so yeah.

What is Kylie talking about? I mean, she literally set the path for her and her sisters. Like, she has to give credit where credit is due. Like, that's cute, though. Like, I mean, that's cute. You know, she wants to be fine. I wouldn't even say it's Cam. I was going to say that, too. Like, let's really take it up for that. She was the baddie.

The mom just set her up business. The bad mom understand, but it's really like the face of everything. She holds it down for like the family. Like at the end of the day, whenever it's anything like big in the tablets or whatever, like it's Kim. It's not the mom that we're talking about. It's Kim that we're talking about. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Kim is the OG. But that's cute. Kylie's about. You know, yeah Kim is the OG but that's cute kind of cute You know, she's but let's give Kylie her her flowers in her own way because she is a billionaire

It's not the original and we ain't even talking about the franchise. Yes. We talking about like we have other people out there we have What little cam we've got? We have other people out there. We have what? Lil' Kim, we've got Brianna. We have a whole plethora of other women that have been out there that are original bangs before she even came to the picture. So that was definitely a bold statement from her to caption that she is the original. But, Lokey, let me just throw this out there too. Like, our generation of the ladies, my kids, for example,

they know about Kim being married to Kanye and of the ladies, my kids, for example, they know about Kim being married to Kanye and having the kids, right? Where our children are more like looking at her because she was, the father of her children is Travis Scott and she has the lip kits, all these things. And pretty much we saw her growing up. So she is basically, you know, Hollywood elite. She's part of this America's first family, you know, in hindsight. So I see the evolution of her.

But at the same time, to call herself the original baddie, that's pretty. High on the list, great confidence, you know, but, you know, I wish her the best with that. I mean, honestly, I feel like she should, she should actually be a little bit more humble because like, like I said, I feel like her mom, Kim K, like her sisters, she's the baby. She is the baby. You know what I mean?

Well, you have people to learn from and people who, you know, made mistakes that you could learn from, you know what I mean? So I don't know. That comes off really, really not a humble baddie. But she a baddie, though. She a bad. You know, the baddie. And it did come off humble, but it's cute, though. I mean, she did. She

she had the original baddie. She a baddie, but she ain't the original. Let's get that straight. Let's put that out there. I love that though, that shout out to, shout out to Kim though, Kim and Chris and the whole Kardashian plan, for example. Yeah. Got it. Do y'all feel like, do y'all feel like she intentionally, or was she throwing shade at someone

to make a post like that, to say the original thing? I mean, with all these millions of followers, I'm sure she is top 10, right? I mean, I'm just can assume. It's definitely going to give a little topic of conversation. Hence why we're talking about it now. It's trending. It's all over the place, especially because she's in the beauty space, too, of influence and, you know, she's known that her lip could sell out and she has, you know, her baby girl Stormi is wearing the hottest, you know, sneakers and the whole

line of everything. So she is really just being out there. I feel like it's always a little bit of calculated, you know, energy behind it just for the marketing purposes, as well as look at Mama and look at just how they have built everything. So of course, it's a little bit of, um, a little bit of hooking at press and her followers and everything like that, just for us to talk about it.

I mean, it might be the original lip kit is coming out, being resurfaced or whatever the case may be. And she also knows that people talk about her looks, her plastic surgery, her transformations, and her ugly duckling stages and all these things. So I think she's kind of owning it and also just want us to talk about it. Maybe she meant of her generation, like her age group, maybe she means she's the

OG of her, you know, age group. I'm trying to figure out the OG part of it. I mean, you know, we got to give her credit. She is a business woman. She is, like you said, she's like one of the most followed people on social media. You know, I mean, it is what it is. So I think there is like some truth behind what she's saying. It's just weird to say OG. I don't know. I just feel like calling herself the original Betty is like you ignoring all the women who paved the way before you.

It's like you ain't knowing all the women who paved the way before you. It's like, girl, you ain't the one. But she should be, she should be a humble baddie. So she's got to put that out there humble original. We'll see. Original should never have been in that caption, baby. Because people did like spin it and really kind of started like talking stuff about original. Well, what if they were just like original what?

Original where? Like, what's the original? You know, first of all, cause why my mama just texted me talking about she waiting on her shout out, girl, you lost. Okay. So how to rewind the original. See looking at the OG original Humble Baddie mama. Want her shout out.

Listen, I already shouted you out. OK, Dr. Roberts, you got to shout out. I'm going to shout you out again. Shout out to Dr. Roberts. She's a real Humble Baddie. The real OG. She's more of a blueprint baddie. Right. Yes, that's what you were saying, right, Real?

Like the OGs and like think about the ones before you. You have to think about the ones before you. Just baddie, not original baddie. You ain't the original. And that's that period. That's that. That's funny. This is John Cameron Mitchell and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation Island stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a

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You want to keep it moving. We, we, we, you know, how you feeling? Sexy Red and why she is the most hated rapper in the industry. She said she hated. Most hated female rapper. She thinks she says that because she is getting criticized in regards to it. She did a podcast with Big Boys Neighborhood for an exclusive interview and she didn't hold back y'all. She addressed that she receives so much hate online, but I feel like, you know, us as women,

we dive into it because we always see hate, but she's taking it too intentional. And the thing about it, she has to understand she is very talented. She makes music. People are tuned in. Just because you have that hate, you have more people supporting you. That's why you're on the top. So, sexy rich have to remember, like, if they ain't talking, if you ain't got no hate, you shouldn't drop it. Yeah. Let them know.

I feel like all rappers, though, have made this statement at some point, though. I feel like all rappers feel like everybody hates them, everybody's against them. You know, like, I feel like that's part of the rapper, like, persona, like... You know, fuck my haters type thing. You know what I'm saying like you go back to us that You know that me and you'll be able to but if it goes hard better for females like we we get criticized more as You know as females and they're in that rapper category because it's predominantly male

And they're in that rapper category because it's predominantly male. She talk about things that a lot of people are not uncomfortable. A lot of people are not comfortable speaking on. I mean, we did have Prina, Lil Kim, all that. I think all the female rappers whenever they like are on top and they're like speaking their mind and they're in their own lane, they all get like some sort of like, you know, get this big following of hate, but it's still a following. You know what I mean? People are still following everything they do, everything they say. So I feel like haters are still, they're like low

key, like they still fuck with you. It's just, they don't know it yet. It's interesting. It's interesting because, you know, Sexy Red has definitely made a lane for herself. She is, like, I feel she is very relatable to a lot of the young girls in the hood. And like, and really just like that are trying to make it single mamas out there grinding, hustling for their kids. And shout out to Missouri, you know, like that's a show me state. That's where we're known from. That's where I'm from. And we like to let people know who we are and really be ourselves. And I feel like she is really just the epitome of like,

I'm gonna have these babies. I'm gonna do this. I got a little bread. I'm gonna take care of home. I'm gonna talk my shit. And I'm gonna be creative and be myself. Going back to seeing her at Rolling Loud live, the crowd was so engaged with her presence and her energy. She is top notch for me. Like, I was a believer at first. I was like, okay, she's got a lot to talk about, and, you know, whoo, that's making me, like,

Real said, a little uncomfortable. But she's expressing her creative side, to talk about and you know, whoo, that's making me like Raelle said, a little uncomfortable, but she's expressing her creative side and she has a lane where she is very comfortable in and you know, I like to really give her her flowers in her way just because she was out there in her sneakers and really dancing and engaging with the audience and they loved it. So I was asked, she has hits. I mean, she's like what Drake got ahead with her. So she's becoming mainstream and we're talking about her. And I think she just represents the, like just a lot of what is America

and what people in just really, you know, have come from the gutter and really have tried to make a name for themselves. She represents that in so many ways. And I hate that she feels that hate. But again, I feel like what Ashley, you said, as far as, you know, this is the rapper's persona, they all are very sensitive about their craft too, you know, at the end of the day. And I think she just has to stay, stay herself.

That's what has gotten her this far. And as long as she's not hurting anybody, like just do you. You know, I hate that she feels that way though, but it goes in ebbs and flows. Different. Yeah. Yeah. I agree.

So I'm curious though. Yeah, that's true. Tell me y'all top three female rappers. Cherrell, go's true. Tell me your top three female rappers. Sure, go. Wait, we have to we have to change it up. I think I have we have to do different errors. Well, I see what you did there.

OK, tell me just your top three who you're playing right now. It don't have to be top like. I can't compare my old school female rappers to my new school. So tell me who you're playing right now though. Who are you playing right now? Right now, right now I got Nikki. Top three right now currently. I think Nikki Minaj, Sexy Red. She she got some hair and Lado. Okay, who you got?

I have Nikki. I have Lado and I have Glow. Okay. Okay. Glow. Glow, Glow, Glow, Glow. I was in there like, oh, oh, yeah. Talk to me, sis, talk to me.

Talk to me. Yeah, yeah. What we got? I'm gonna go with... Who am I gonna go with? You already split. Nicki Minaj is my top. Have y'all heard of Mona Leo?

No. No? What are you working out? You have good taste in music, Ash. Leo? No. No, look her up. Were you working out? You have good taste in music, Ash. Play that. And then, um, Dolce. I was thinking her. Does she consider rap?

Does she consider? Yeah. I like her flow. That means is Doja consider rap or two? Um, yeah, I think so yeah, yeah Okay. I just think that I hate the women are just doing what you say What about old school the ill nana Yeah, you know that is it missy

Hello Kim, yeah look him Yeah. Yeah. That is it. Missy Ellis. Oh, Missy. And Lil' Kim. Yeah, Lil' Kim. Dang. I mean, oh, that's our old school generation, because we can even go back to like you have Queen Latifah, Lauryn Hill, MC White, The Bread. Ooh. And it's another good one. Rat tat tat tat. It's Brad.

Hey, so you taking me back. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I want to have an Atlanta party at my house where we play only like, well, mostly like Atlanta. And we got to dress like, we got to dress like 2000s Atlanta. Like, like white t-shirts, blouse socks, and like all the Atlanta rap music. I like that.

Can't wait to do that. Let's do that. Let's do it. Y'all know, y'all know, Georgia is, that's me. So I'm going to be ranking Ash. Okay. I love that. I love that.

What you got for it, Ash? Oh, go ahead. I feel like back to Sexy Red in regards to, I feel like we don't support it and ride for our female rappers like we should. Like, I feel like people drop on the bandwagon and just push, but as much hate, there should be more celebration because she is paving the way, even though some people don't like the way she what she talk about or what she rap about.

But generations before spoke and talk about the same thing. You have your male rappers, they're great and women talking about stuff and people vibe to it. But as soon as a female come and speak on it, it's like, oh, she nasty. She like, don't nobody want to hear that type of music, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But she's making hits. Yeah, she's making hits. But I feel like, you know, also this day and age, I feel like people are sensitive and it's always been pushback.

It's always been like somebody who doesn't like what you are putting out, what you're doing, what you're saying, what you're wearing. Like it's always going to be that. And we need to just be reinforcing like self-love and like believing in yourself and not listening to what other people say and just going out there and doing your thing and stop putting so much energy into the haters. Like it's always going to be people out here who don't like what we're doing. It's people who don't like the humble baddies fire cat and they all go to hell. But we still don't show up and do what we gotta do.

You know what I'm saying? Like we don't need to give our energy into the people who are hating us There are so many people that love us who are supporting us who do love our music Do love our podcast who do want to hear what we have to say who do you know? Just enjoy whatever we are putting out into the world and those are the people that we need to be speaking energy into and giving all of our you know energy to so I feel like you know It's always gonna be haters Ignore the haters and keep you doing sexy red like we see you you're being seen and keep doing what you're doing

But the good thing about it the haters are the ones that keep you relevant Because they're all in on you. Yeah, if they not hating on you, you ain't doing it right. And shout out to Cardi B and Meg Thee Stallion, too. I know we didn't mention them, but they are forces of their own. You know, I just, I really enjoy being very confident in my skin with the ladies. They are very much, they just, we just

have fallen in love with these ladies and really much can feel empowered by them. So shout out to all the ladies, all the rappers that are doing their thing because you're necessary and needed. For sure. Yeah. All right, y'all. So the next topic I would like to talk about is Nellie and Ashanti.

So he recently did an interview where he mentioned that one of the reasons that he decided to marry Ashanti was so that she would not be a baby mama. So what do you guys think about that? Do you think that is, you know, is that him being a gentleman or do you think that's like, I don't know, a cop out or like, what do you guys think about that? I think he, he really loves Ashanti and he genuinely married her because he loves her. I think him, you know, her becoming pregnant, sped up the process, but he genuinely, genuinely, okay, did I say genuinely?

I don't know. Little sorry. And I respect it. Like he, and he has so much love for her that he don't want the public to call her his baby mama. Okay, so do you think there's something wrong with being called a baby mama? I think it's a stigma in our communities for that,

for sure, you know, because I feel like in other communities, it's partner or, you know, significant other child, mother, father, my child, you know. Do the white people call their baby mama? I think they do because we normalize it. Yeah, I ain't never heard no white man call his baby mama. I don't think so.

That's what I'm saying. I don't. Ask somebody. I don't. I don't think so. But I mean, I think they say it in Morris. So like this generation of I don't have to be married to have a baby. You know what I'm saying?

Or whatever the case may be. But I feel like, you know, I kind of try to shy away from saying baby Mama because low-key I'm nobody's baby Mama like there's much work as I put in as much soul and time that I put into these kids I'm their mother so you're gonna respectfully put me on that pedestal and make sure everyone else is calling me that too So I feel like when Nellie, this is, he's showing us growth. He's showing us so many, like, that he loves, that he loves her. He's like, you're not gonna, this woman that is carrying my child,

I am now old enough. Yeah, you, you, that is my wife. She is the mother of my children and you're gonna address her as such. And I feel like that has to be put on a pedestal too, because low key, you're not going to always just get married after having a baby. Like people, you know, aren't using protection. You might turn around and not like the person the next week. It happens. It very much so, so well happens.

So you know, I feel like people, we got to change the stigma of calling people baby mama, baby daddy. But I feel like it comes from a heaviness or something that's going on between the relationship of the parents and not thinking about the child. Because I feel like we have to be very much healthy in our situations, in our homes, really raising these kids. And he's trying to do the right thing of now bringing this child up in a two-parent household, which we know statistically is better. And he's trying to do it right. So shout out to Nellie for that because we want that. And I respect, like, he know that Ashanti is an icon.

She is that girl. Like, you're not about to... Y'all not about to disrespect my wife. This is who she is. She is that girl. Like, you're not about to, y'all not about to disrespect my wife. This is who she is. She is my wife. Yeah. We need more of this. We need more of people, men making their girls their wives. Like, we need more representation of this, you know?

Because a lot of times I feel like every day we're seeing so-and-so is pregnant, so-and-so is having a baby, so, you know, we don't see a lot of so-and-so's getting married. So I think that's important. Yeah, I agree. And we love it. I'd rather have two healthy parents in two separate households than, you know, two parents and one under one roof of resentment.

Like, it's just not healthy at all. So he's putting out that energy of, look, this is what it is. We out here. I love it. I mean, I, I'd rather be called a co-parent, a partner, mother of my children. Here. Did you think when I, so I'm a, I'm a take it back in and ask a question that will be very controversy. If she was not pregnant, do you think he would have married her?

I think so because you know, Right, right in there. I think so. Because that statement that he made was I married her so she wouldn't be, that is why people are in an uproar. Like she wouldn't be labeled as a baby mama. So I don't think the response should have been that, because now it's making it look like,

oh, he only married her so she wouldn't be labeled as a baby mama. I think he did the right thing. Like it's just, we have to give credit where credit is due. And keep in mind, they did date in the past. So this is almost like that saying of, if you love something, let it go, if it comes back, it's yours. So they have history.

You know, they have history of, they know each other. It's not like it was rushed, like I just met her and now she pregnant, so let me lock it down because I'm grown now. No, it's really a sense of, you know what? I'm not doing, I'm doing something different this time. We have a child, we're building a legacy. This is, we're breaking generational curses and that energy of like not marrying the mother of our children.

So he is trying to start a new legacy and really continue his musical legacy and really transform his, his really just his persona of now he's a family man and he can settle down and he can be focused on his family and doing everything for them. So low key, I feel like it was next. It should have been marriage, you know, maybe the baby, the baby has got there a little bit before, but it should have been marriage anyway, if they bringing it back around and you don't want her to be with no one else. And y'all see the difference now between when y'all were younger, seven or eight years ago to now,

when you're grown and make these sound decisions, it actually is better. I'm glad they brought a baby up now later on than seven years ago. Welcome you as to why people get in such a uproar about. Who's getting married or whatever or who's not, but it's OK to have a baby like, oh, she's pregnant. Married is hard. You know what I mean? Like, it's just weird. Like, why would you guys be OK with her just being pregnant and being a baby mama? Why is that more like acceptable and more like less controversial than him actually wanting to make her his wife?

People are in the uproar because of the statement he said, I didn't want her to be labeled as the baby mama. And he said, I didn't want her to be labeled as the baby mama. So it's make people like dive in on, oh, well, you just married her because you got her pregnant. Yes, we know she had a previous relationship. They had a previous relationship. But why say, you know, I only married not only, but I didn't. I don't want people to label her as my baby mama.

That's why people are are. I don't want people to label her as my baby mama. That's why people are are. Well, people are getting caught up in these words and. Losing it like. Yeah, I don't know that relationship. And then you'll be so happy when they got back together. Why wouldn't you all be happy that he's exactly it's like, it's always going to be something. Well, I'm.

I'm happy. I love it. I love Ashanti and. I'm. I'm happy. I love it. I love Ashanti and Ellie. Like they are a beautiful couple. I just don't like you don't have to. I didn't like how I married her, so she wouldn't be labeled as a baby mom. He didn't have to say that, like just marry her. It's a very big thing. Yeah, maybe he didn't mean it like that.

But I will say, like, I was not married when I got pregnant and I didn't want to be a baby mama. I didn't want nobody to call me a baby mama either. And I also felt like I did put pressure on Phil to propose to me once I was pregnant. But ultimately, he didn't care about that pressure at all. And looking back, I feel like I'm glad that I know that he didn't marry me just because I'm pregnant. So I feel like, yeah, like making a statement like that does kind of like stale the whole

engagement. You know what I mean? Like you want to be married to somebody because they want to marry you because they want to spend the rest of their life with you, not because you're pregnant. And so I'm just saying like looking back, like I'm glad like I got married because, you know, we want to be together forever, not because I just happen to be pregnant. So yeah, that's a weird statement to make. But you know, we supposed to be minding our business and you know, wishing people well,

especially people who are, you know, doing things positively, moving in a positive direction. You know, marriage is hard. It's not easy. So why put that? And it's not hard being pregnant and it's not hard having babies and toddlers and all these different stages either. So you want the help. You know, you want someone there for you,

but it doesn't always work out that way. There's this influx of women that just wanna be single mothers by choice. You know, they can, if they're just ready to have children and just really be a mother themselves. So I just think we are just in this space of where we're kind of transitioning so you can really do whatever you want to do. And there's so many labels out there now. So it's just like, I mean, technically now I'm considered a single mom, you know,

and that shit was not by choice. You know what I mean? It's just by default of divorce. So it's like, you know, now I'm put in this category, but at the same time, I still have the help of their father and I still am able to do the things I need to do. So like the stigma is changing, I feel in that kind of way. And that's, would you guys have pressured. Do you think like you would pressure a man into marrying you if you became pregnant?

Any one of y'all? Like, would you try to pressure Phil into it? And he was like, what the fuck were you talking about? I get it's a baby in there and that's cool. I'm gonna be here. I'm gonna be happy. Cool. But he like, I was like, you know, I'm pregnant. Let's go, let's get married.

What you waiting on? Like he, he did not care. But I, you know, I was raised. You think it's cause you wanted that because of everyone else? Also what they were gonna say? Well, yeah. And like, that's just how I was raised.

That's just how I was brought up. You know, I thought I was going to go to hell. Like, you know, kind of thing. You know what I'm saying? OK, we can't bring we shaking our hands. Can't bring a baby in this world without Mary. Is that the cat before the cat? Or is that the mother before the cat?

Like, my dad stopped talking to me. Like, I just was like, oh, my God, like, what am I doing? I done did the worst thing ever, you know what I mean? Like, so, yeah, I did put a lot of pressure on Phil. Looking back, that's what I'm saying. Now I feel like I'm glad that he wasn't moved by me saying, like, let's get married because I'm pregnant. Because now I know he wanted to be with me,

not because of the baby. Right. Because he looked me dead in the eye. Because you don't want to force a man to marry you and be with you because you're pregnant. Because now he's marrying you for the wrong reasons. Like, I want, if a man comes to me and marry me, I want you to marry me because

you love me. Not because he brought a child in this world. Like, you love me, we're going to grow together, we're going to build together. Yeah, that does start the energy off a little rocky for the nuptials. Yeah, I understand what you're saying. I had three and a half babies before I got married that were out in the world thriving. So I was definitely baby mama. I was going to the arenas all around and the name is not matching the last name of everything. So it got annoying and doctor's appointments and things like that. But I did feel... I used to blather. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be like, hey, that's the baby mama. There she go.

Yeah. But you know, some states have come in law marriage. I mean, y'all were together for years before y'all, you know, solidified it. Some states, you know, acknowledge marriage and you're not, you don't have to do the paperwork just because of how many years you've been together. Or under the same roof too, for sure.

Arizona was not having it. My mama and daddy do not care about no common law marriage. Okay. My mama and dad. Common law, this household. I mean like y'all didn't stand there. I don't know. They know that it's helpful.

It's helpful. Bill mama was like, so what y'all gonna do? OK, like she was dead ass. Like, so what's the plan? It's big responsibilities. It is. It is. But do y'all think that marriage really changes a relationship or is it just paperwork? Like, you feel like marriage can change a relationship or is it just paperwork? Like, I feel like marriage can lead to relationship because so many people have

put out like what marriage is supposed to be. Like we go into a marriage and we like, oh, we supposed to change. Now that we're married, we supposed to do this. And I feel like it makes the relationship more straight. I just feel like the world has changed what, what marrying really is. Rick really is. And forks, and especially America, has scared people away from becoming married. Especially men.

Because the laws are in it and when you get a divorce, you know, oh, they worry about what, what if we don't make it work and we have to go through a divorce? All that I brought to the table now I have to split it and I lose a lot of things because now that we're married and we have the outside coming into our marriage telling us what we should do once we separate. So it's a lot. It's a lot to weigh on when you do get married, what you think about if it doesn't work. It's just it's just a lot.

Yeah, historically, we got married because we need a credit. You know, we need to get a job. We needed some extra income for the household. That's how that's what marriage really started from back in the day was, you know, in order to have your own cars, things in your name, you had to get married. And so now it's turned into like, you know, let me solidify this partnership, this relationship, and it's really became now I feel like it's, it still was a business contract, but now it's become a business contract. Going back to what you said, Roel, the prenups, the options of what these things are, which is very valid and very safe and very protective and very necessary.

But it does start to hinder when you have to add the paperwork of like, you know, before we get married, let's talk about this. Because it is people, two people, two whole people are coming together and causing one union and now there are separation of bills, there's one household, there's you know children, there's all kinds of things these factors. So I feel like low-key, I know we've had this discussion a little bit before of like would you get married again or things like that? But like, I'm starting to see the influx of like partnerships and like these long-term committed relationships where people are just still doing what they want to do

and whatever their marriage looks like to them is what it's gonna be. Because at the end of the day, you got to live with this person. And if y'all decide to go your own way, you just can keep it going without like paperwork or anything like that. So it's almost like what are the benefits of marriage that outside of partnership, outside of, you know, business contracts, the piece of paper, those things like that, you know, it's just per person at this point. What does

that mean? It is a business contract. It is a legal issue, a legal document. I do think you should both have lawyers. I think you should protect yourself. But at the end of the day, I still believe marriage is something that you do under God. You're under God. This is an oath that you take under God. So you can protect yourself. Like if you want to take the steps and make sure like you don't want her to get any of what you got and you don't want him like there's ways that you can protect yourself and that's easy. I mean, it might not be the easiest conversation,

but there's ways to protect yourself and then everything everything else, I think, is, you know, you see guidance under God. Like you get marriage counseling, like before you get married. Like there's things and there's ways to like, that might help you see marriage differently. You know what I mean? Like if you let all these outside worldly things stop you from seeing the greatness of what marriage can be, then yeah, it's not going to work. But if we remember what marriage is and what it's for, you know, what the foundation of marriage is, then I think there's a chance for it.

And it might not seem so scary because you have the tools and you have everything that you need in place to give it a chance to see, to not come from a place of fear because I don't think that's what marriage should feel like. It shouldn't feel, you know, once you let all these worldly things in. It shouldn't feel like a field. Right. So, I mean, it's just unfortunate that that's where we are, but I mean, it's real. It's real. And that's why we need more, like representation. We need more people talking about it.

We need more men who are married to have conversations with men who aren't, or, you know, the men who do want to be married, like, y'all need to get out here and, like, talk to the women and tell them, like, you know, just, we need to talk. Because I think there are people out here who still believe in marriage, who still want it, they're just afraid. It's coming from fear. I agree with you, Ashley.

The place of fear and the unknown. But it's not easy. You have to be ready. Two willing and able participants for sure. Locked in. Do you all feel like if a man doesn't marry the mother of someone, a woman that's pregnant, do you feel like he's not being responsible? Or vice versa? Like if a lady is like, you know what, we'll just keep it separate.

I feel like if a man doesn't step up and take care of the responsibility of having a child and making sure the mother of that child is in a space that's not saying that he needs to like take care of her, but if that's the mother of your child, like I do feel like there is some responsibility there and But if that's the mother of your child, like I do feel like there is some responsibility there and if he doesn't step up, then I would say he is irresponsible because bringing a child into this world changes everything, whether you're married or not. I don't think you should marry a woman just because you bring a child in this world. Like I said before, even when it comes to Nellie and Ashanti, I feel like before a child,

before anything, a man will know if he wants to marry that woman or not. Yeah, but does it make him less responsible? That's what she was saying. Right. But if he doesn't take care of the kid and the mom in the situation, then yeah, I think it makes him less responsible. It's not about marriage. It's about the child.

It's about making sure that they're being taken care of and you step up differently. You can't step up in the same way. You can't move in the same way once you bring a child in. You might not get married, but you definitely got to do more. It is a difference. It's your responsibility of another human now.

It's not just like y'all are dating. It's not like you're just boyfriend and girlfriend, even though you're not married. It changes. Like it's it's a big change. And I think to like act like it's a light, like it's something light, I think is it's would be. An act of irresponsibility. Understand.

I get that. Well, shut out. We need more. We need more of these husbands to speak on how happy, happily they are in a marriage. Is that recruiting more? It ain't more husbands and not babies. We love that. We love that. No more babies. It ain't for husband and not baby. We love that.

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But at the same time, it is a platform of voicing your opinion. It very much is like, you know, you have two masculine energies of, you know, Charlamagne and DJ Envy. And we know them as speak in their mind. And here you have two ladies that are almost low key, were getting almost pitted against each other. And it was, I'm sure, you know, Jess is very much outspoken, obviously, that's why she's sitting in that chair. Yeah, there's a reason why she's there, you know what I'm saying?

Same with LaRosa, same thing, you know what I mean? They're both in their own right, just very much deserving of being there. It was very heartbreaking to see them really kind of going at it, but then they were very honest. I mean, obviously we need to understand why there is this energy in that small space, you know? I personally don't listen to them on the radio. I can't remember the last time I was listening to any talk on the radio.

It's now streaming. So now we're able to see their reactions. We're able to, in real time, like really understand what they're going through. And she's just coming off of having a baby. This is like off of maternity leave. So I don't know how I would feel like if I was out of the loop, you know,

healing myself and bringing this new life into the world and then showing up to my job and you're replaced. Of course my energy and my hormones are gonna to be heightened and I'm going to feel some kind of way because now things have kept it moving, which they should, but at the same time I'm going to feel like I'm, you know, replaceable, especially when you feel like you were irreplaceable. Yeah. Exactly.

I feel like it first, I feel like they should have never had the conversation live. I feel like they should have spoke and talked it out. I felt like it was a lot of miscommunication with them. Of course, you know, it can be like, okay, this was mine and I had this platform, but now you're not hearing what I'm saying. I felt like it was just too much communication and I felt like they both had good intentions, but no one was there to help them intervene and...

Like mediate a little bit? Clear the air, mediate. Correct. Interesting. I think, you know, the way that Angela Ye left from the Breakfast Club, I think kind of Jess should have known the environment that it might be. So it's like, you know, she left for a maternity leave or whatever. And they, well, first they did this big rollout for Jess. It was like this big thing.

Like she's coming on. You're right. Yeah. I remember that. They did all these interviews and like, yeah. It was so big, like that everybody was so excited. Everybody was so happy. Like Charlamagne, DJ Envy was just like, everybody was like, it was good.

Right. Then she was pregnant. She has to go to maternity leave or whatever. And then she, they bring in, what's her name? Lauren LaRosa. Like, that's her last name. Yeah, so they bring her in and it's like, okay, cool. But like, did y'all talk to Jess about it? Like, did y'all fully...

No, she knew because that's... Jess vouched for her. Right. I know. But then they said like she was only supposed to be doing her segment, right? Mm-hmm. And so I feel like something was lost in communication. That when she was coming back, how that transition was going to be, that should have all been laid out. And clearly it wasn't. And like you said, Lex, when you're pregnant, just had a baby, your hormones are all over the place. And that environment probably is a male dominant space. There's probably nobody speaking up for Jess in that way while

she's gone. You know what I mean? And I think it's just kind of unfortunate that she would have to come back and have to deal with that and have to like speak up for herself. But you know, she's not like a corporate person. So of course she's someone. He's on the radio. He's a personality. She got to say out, you know what I mean, in the way that she did it. So it's like we can't get mad at her for, you know, like speaking her mind in the way that she does, because that's where that's how she got to where she is. And then, but it's unfortunate that it's like these two black women on this black

podcast, huge, and then just now, EJ, Wendy, and Charlamagne, I feel like they just sitting back kind of like watching them kind of have this back and forth. You know, I feel like they, they didn't really like pick sides or anything, but they didn't really help the situation either. Yeah. And I ain't like that at all. And I feel like, you know, seeing, you know ain't like that at all and I feel like you know seeing You know Angela Lee Angela you leave, you know I can kind of see why too and I think Jess said that because it's like y'all just sitting here letting this happen

Y'all not speaking up for no. I like to see show it whatsoever. What are we doing? Yeah, that's tough That's tough. I just want them to win. They're both amazing hosts. They're both beautiful women. They do great in their industry. And us as black women, we should come together and show that we can work together without taking over each other's spotlight.

And those two men, they need to be there to support them, to help them, to keep them shy, not throwing rocks, trying to, oh, you know, cause confusion, not saying that they are, but as us, as black women, we have to learn to work together. We have to stick together and not put it, if we're going through things, the world shouldn't know about it. Like, let's have a conversation. Let's talk it out. Let's figure it out and be better at it. That's what you got to do. We tired.

We are exhausted. It gets exhausting. And you know, we can say this being black women, like we saying, you know how that term is we're going to sit this one out because we are always graceful. We're always trying to stand up for ourselves. We are always trying to be the, you know, the bigger person. And, you know, it gets draining and very tiring. You know, we are tired. We're tired.

We're just exhausted from trying to overextend ourselves, really be the saviors, you know? It's just, I wish she just had a little bit more support. Exactly. And that's all of it, support and communication. Let's figure this shit out. Let's show the world that we can work together as black women and kill it. Do you think it was a little calculating because it was like, we're watching it. We're talking about it.

There's views, there's it's trending. We're watching it, we're talking about it. There's views, there's, it's trending. And then to turn around, like almost a couple of days later, LaRosa, she ended up announcing her new show, her, you know, her new platform. So what do y'all think about that? I don't think it was calculated.

I think, you know, Jess was trying to express herself and she just had enough. She went live and because she went live, they went, the next day they addressed it. And it, you know, everything just happened. They have a platform. It happened. Right. And, and, you know, the guys don't eat it up. They don't tear it up and talk about it. Let's talk about it live right now.

Yeah, I understand that. Raelle, you got humble body mail for us. It's about that time. It's about that time. It is. You got it for us. I can't wait for this one. OK, hey, so I need I need y'all to be in. It doesn't say where it's coming from. No, I need y'all to be in.

It doesn't say where it's coming from. No, I need y'all honest opinion because I'm really stuck on this one. I've been dating this guy for over a year and a half and we finally planned our first vacation together, which is a Royal Caribbean cruise. Okay. Please say that. What's the other one? Carnival. Carnival.

At least it ain't, what's the other one? Carnival. Carnival. At least it ain't carnival, girl. I was super excited, but then he hit me with the, you're paying for your half, right? He wasn't joking. Now I get that we're in that modern world and all, but I kind of feel like if a man is taking me on vacation, he should be covering it, especially if he's the first that asked and it's our first trip together.

Am I being unrealistic or is he just giving up giving broke, broke energy? Baggies, what y'all do? Would you happily split the bill or is this the red flag for how he handles relationships in general? Please. Well, I'm going to go ahead and say this as an avid traveler. I mean, all three of us are avid travelers, right? If I'm with this guy after a year and a half, he knows how I move.

He knows how I eat. He knows how I dine and really take how I fly, how you move. So a year and a half, and y'all talking about vacation, you're going on a cruise, and these cruises are very expensive, they're time consuming, but they're fun. It's a very intimate setting, but a year and a half, you should know what time it is.

And I feel like if you invested that time in this person, you can invest in their space, especially because you're not in two separate estate rooms. You know, you are in, you're sharing one bed and one cabin. So cruises are meant for you to really not go to sleep. So you're with this person all the time. You're doing excursions, you're doing, you're eating, you're, you're wine tasting, whatever you want to do.

So obviously if you want to spend time with this person after a year and a half of getting to know them, best believe you should be fitting the bill for this. I mean, if you can't afford not to be there, you shouldn't be gone. But sis, I think he needs to take care of it. I know one thing with me, even just dating and courting and things like that, I feel like the men that approach me or know who I am know that I'm well traveled. And there's a way that I travel, and that doesn't have to necessarily be first class or things like that, but there's going to be things that I want to do.

I like getting massages. I like a view of the ocean. I like these things. And if this man is intentional about being with somebody, they should be investing in you. Exactly. As a man, if you ask him to come somewhere, you better pay for it. Why am I paying? I feel like the men, I feel like the men are going to say it's a test.

Yeah. Well, a year and a half test. But I don't know. No, I don't know. I feel like men are all about like trying to see. I don't know. Like, is she a gold digger and that shit? I don't like the one that happened. I'm not having. They're not saying that.

You know what I mean? Well, he might not have it to like, first like that, but then that's why I think there should be like a conversation. Like, I feel like it's like, okay, what if he doesn't have it like that, but he really likes you, he really wants to go on this vacation with you, but he can't afford your part, then he can find a nice way to be like, hey, can we, I don't see nothing wrong with that. One thing about these cousins, you gotta put a deposit down before you even step foot on

that boat, baby. They are not checking you in unless everything is clear. I know. That's why I'm saying, that's why I'm saying he may not have it, but I feel like it's okay. Like as long as it's not okay. It's not okay. It's very irresponsible. Because if you don't have the, it is. Because if you don't have the money, then why are you asking to go on a cruise? You need to get your priorities together before we go.

You got to pay for Wi-Fi. And that can be a conversation. And that could be a conversation. But I'm just saying, like, I'm just trying to think about it from, OK, y'all are some bougie bitches, OK I'm just trying to think about it from. OK, y'all are some bougie bitches. OK, I'm trying to think about it. Trying to think about it, you know, in a different way.

OK, so I'm just saying, like, he might not be as well traveled as you, Lex. He might. No, Sherelle, I'm just thinking for the other people. I know you know that for this man. Let him finish Sherelle. Let him finish. I'm just saying, not you bitch. I know you not going to go. I'm talking about you. If a man asks you to pet your own baby. I'm not talking about me. I'm not talking about the majority. I'm not talking about us. I'm not talking about Dabouji humblebetties About being who was the standard boundary? It's as a man if you're asking me to come on a trip you need to pay It ain't no fucking testing. We're not after a year and a half

No, we go together and been together But what are you saying Ash? No And I have not tested. No, we go together and been together. But what are you saying, Ash? No. Can't hear you. Ash can't hear you. She doesn't she she got a huge. Yeah, yeah, yes. Will you stand by?

OK, I'll go. Yeah, just with my and I'll be pushing. OK, sir. What if he's not like a well-traveled person and neither is she? And this is like them trying to, you know, explore that option. And he doesn't know the etiquette of like, okay, if I want to go on a vacation with a lady, I need to make sure I have the funds. You know what I'm saying?

So I don't, I'm trying to answer this lady in a way, not trying to ruin their relationship because we don't know. You know what I'm saying? So I don't, I'm trying to answer this lady in a way, not trying to ruin their relationship, cause we don't know, you know what I'm saying? Like we don't know where they are in their financials. We don't know where they are in their relationship. So I'm just saying, okay, they want to go, he obviously wants to go on a trip with this lady, on a cruise or whatever. And he's like, okay, I want to go, but can you pay your way? I

don't think she should be like, ah, fuck this man. He can't even pay for me. I ain't going to stop him. Like, I don't think that's why I'm saying there's a conversation that could be had and you can let him know. Like, I feel like, you know, you're asking me to go on this vacation together. Then I think this is something that you should be taking care of or whatever. Like, and then we can go from there and figure out the conversation. I'm trying to help out. What's the lady name? What is anonymous? I can't name that.

I'm embarrassed. That's not anonymous. Embarrassed. OK, but some people are not there. I agree with you, Ashley. They're learning. They should not be going. They need to go on a trip. They should go and do a staycation. I don't think the answer to our humble bad emails should be like, absolutely not. No, like, okay, no, this shouldn't, I don't think you should go on this trip and pay for yourself, but it should be a 100% should be a conversation I'm gonna I'm gonna speak for myself and speak for you because I want you to understand how we would

deal with this situation all three of us on this platform if He cannot pay your bill your portion and he have asked you Y'all don't need to be going on no trip. Because guess what, when you go on that cruise, you gotta pay for everything. He don't pay for everything. No, it's not worth it. It's not worth it.

Let's have a conversation. Let's have a conversation. Speak for yourself. Don't speak for me, speak for you and let's begin. Let's have a conversation. I don't agree. I don't like everybody. Hold on Ashley, you don't stay at your point.

Let me talk. But you was trying to speak for me, I was trying to speak for y'all. Let me have a conversation and say, we're not ready to plan. Let's, like, you do, figure it out and once you have it figured out, then you can plan us a trip. But I'm not spending 50% and when you invited me on a trip, you need to have it to Or you can stay at home. That's it's cheaper to stay at home. If you cannot afford it, you should not be gone because then it's going to be other

things that are going to come from that. You're going to have some some some issues. Some you don't you know, I don't want to do this. It's like pulling out your your card every other time or like trying to keep checks and balance. It's very expensive. It's time consuming. And if you cannot afford it, then I feel like you guys should not go.

Plain and simple. Exactly. That's how it is. Figure it out. Get your stuff together. When you got your stuff together, me as a woman, you're a man. I want you to be able to be a man. I shouldn't have to sit there on a trip that you asked me to go on.

So once we figure this out, then we can come back and have that conversation about what we've been going on this cruise, on this Royal cruise. Because you think about it, you're using your vacation hours, your vacation days from your job, like all these things. You want some souvenirs. You're using a vacation hours, your vacation days from your job, like all these things. You want some souvenirs, you want to upgrade, you want to go to Paris, Ellen. You want to do things. I mean, you want to have all, you want to have everything. It's vacation.

A year and a half. Like that's my thing. A year and a half, they've been together. So there we go. Those better not. Are those some gummies? Look at her hands. Mm-hmm. Ashley, and he and that, she's talking about some, let's have a conversation and talk it out. No.

I'm trying to ruin nobody's relationship. It's just about that. It's just, I don't think they can afford it. Like, it's gonna cause more... Obviously, it's something because she's asking us, and we't think they can afford it. Like, it's gonna cause more, obviously it's something because she's asking us, and we're giving our opinions on it. And if a man is courting you, y'all been together for a year and a half, and he said, like, you know, let's go on this vacation, y'all doing this, and he's inviting her.

And I feel like, and then you're gonna turn around and be like, bud, you gotta give me half. What if she's like, I can't afford it. I have so we don't need to be going And then now you've been locked in on something and now y'all feeling some kind of way because now you got to get a flight You got to you know, make sure you got a hotel the night before all these things. That's a lot Yes, every spot Got a paper to Wi for the Wi-Fi. The Wi-Fi.

Yes. Everything. I mean, I don't know. I don't see it that bad like y'all see it. Well, at least it's the one liner over the other one, because... Look, he didn't even get the, oh, you can drink packets. Yeah, I'm gonna be drinking water. And that's gonna cause more issues because they be like, well, what, what do they have?

What kind of wristband is that? Or why do they have this, you know? You want to do it right. You want to do it right. That's it. But anyway, thank y'all so much for submitting humble bad email to us. We are ecstatic to get your questions, concerns, comments, and we're going to let y'all know what it is. So thank you all for tuning into us. Ladies, where can they catch you all?

You can find me at SherelleRosado underscore on Instagram and on Snapchat, Sherelle.Rosado. And Ashley Nicole on Instagram and Ash3 underscore Nicole. And I'm on Instagram still and only and at Alexis underscore Stoudemire and send those questions and comments to at contact at HumbleBaddies.com. Get it right. Look at that. I've been consistent with it. You know what I'm saying?

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