Club Shay Shay - Humble Baddies Part 1 - Michelle Obama on Divorce Rumors + Luxury Black Girl TikTok

Episode Date: April 15, 2025

Sharelle and Alexis react First Lady Michelle Obama addressing rumors that her and President Barack Obama are heading for a divorce, Luxury Black Girl TikTok trends, and Gayle King headling a group of celebrities boarding the Blue Origin Space Flight.01:38 - Intro10:40 - Luxury black girl TikTok40:45 - Michelle & Barack Obama divorce rumors(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome back, baddies. We are back with another episode of the Humble Baddies podcast. I'm your girl, Ashley Nicole. And I'm Sherrell Rosado. And I'm Alexis Welch-Stoudemire. And we are the Humble Baddies. Who's that lady? Hey, hey, hey. Hey, girl. What's going on everybody? What are we over here? Well, I just said we're planning for a wedding.

Who is who's getting married? It's a well-known Nigerian princess. Her mom was on Housewives of Lagos and now she's an actor. It's her daughter. So we're going to support her daughter while she embraces this new life of marriage. Beautiful. We're out here in Nigeria, living our best Nigerian queen lives right now.

And joining out here. What you been up to, Lex? I had to send off my oldest son to prom. He just asked his date on Wednesday, and prom was on Friday. So we had to get things together real quickly. Went to the mall with him and just got him right and sent him off. So that's two down. I have two left. So I'm crossing them off the list. So that was the dope thing. And then I was named Miami's,

one of Miami's most stylish residents. So I'm one of the cover, I'm on the cover article in Miami Lifestyle Magazine. So I'm representing for the ladies, black women holding it down, you know? So that was awesome to have that acknowledgement and really just to be seen. you know, so that was that was awesome to have that acknowledgement and Really just to be seen so

Celebrating that a little bit. Yeah Congrats on that Thank you. Thank you Ever party or something like that They they are getting ready to have one next week, but I'll be unavailable to to attend So I won't be able to go, but I think they only, it was only about maybe 10 of us that got selected. There were couples and Pharrell and I were the only black folks holding it down, you know, for everybody in Miami, we got to represent.

So I'm glad I was chosen. So I was happy to, happy to, you know, show up. And it's amazing. I'm prepping for our next month. I spent crazy money on everything. So I'm right behind you, Lex. Well, it's different for the girls because it's like, with Deuce, I mean, he was just like,

yeah, I'm going to prom on Friday. I'll get my tux pressed and let's go get some new shoes. That was it. I'm like, this is... I was like, people coming over. Yeah, I was like, are people coming over? What are we gonna do? Should I host something? He's like, nah, we just gonna meet here and then we gonna go somewhere else.

With Aray, I mean, it's a month in advance. It's hair appointments, it's nails, it's so much more maintenance. So good luck, good luck. It's already been a headache. We ordered her dress in January and it's just been wow. Have you seen like these prom posals and the whole,

the prom, over the top proms and like the car rentals and just the trains and all these things? There's so much that's going into it. And like the little events, like don't they, are you gonna host something to like send her off? Like, are you gonna do all of that to her? I'm not gonna send anything. She better get a drink. do all of that to her? I'm not hosting anything. She better get a job.

I'm not hosting nothing else. I'm tired of this girl is so bougie. She, for her birthday, she took a flight. She went on vacation, her and her friends. He had a birthday overseas. Then she came back. She wanted to spend time in Miami. We got her yacht.

She turned up on her yacht with her friends, had the whole boat decorated. She is too much. I'm ready for her behind to go to college. It does. It does. They told you to ask you have boy. Thank God boy. Thank God. Yes. I'm ready to splurge back on myself now. A little. Yeah. Yeah, the ladens are definitely, you know, just, it's a lot more

maintenance. And speaking of ladies, y'all see the all-female crew that just went up to space and back? Yeah. Yeah, that's scary. I don't know if I could do it. the all female crew that just went up to space and back? Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if I could do it. Would y'all make a video? Really? Girl, I shall never ever go. You would never go to space.

I watched it live. I was watching it on TV. I've seen them scream. It was scary. I don't think I would do that. I jumped out of airplanes and I did everything else, but I don't know if I could do that. Sign me up. I don't know. I don't know if I need to do that. Sign me up. It feels so people were coming. Unnecessary. Because I'm sure it costs a lot of money to go there.

You know what I mean? Well, I mean... Yeah, I think they were saying it's just 150K per seat or something like that. So we're gonna see this more often, I'm sure. Yeah. Well, kudos to those ladies. I saw Gail King. She was the only one who looked a little scared.

You know, when they rang the bell, getting on, everybody else looked like they were excited to go, she looked a little scared. I want to make it clear, because it's the what if. Jeff Bezos wife. I don't know if I can do it. When I was watching, what's Jeff Bezos' fiance name? I don't know if I did it. When I was watching, what's Jeff Bezos' fiance name? Lauren, I think.

Sanchez, yes. She was like, they were like, what if, you know, basically if something would have happened, she was like, well, I hope this would, if something tragic would have happened. We're supposed to be getting married and this is not, you know, if something would have happened, she was like, well, I hope this would, if something tragic wouldn't happen, we're supposed to be getting married. And this is not, you know, if something wasn't happen, but she was happy, she was excited. I was like, I could not do that. Like that's just something

because I don't know what could happen and I'm not in control of it. So I'll pass. I feel like my energy is more like we can, anything can happen walking outside your house or really inside your house at this point. You know, um, it's something that I think I would do 100%. So sign, sign me on up. I'm gonna go do it.

Okay, girl. Well, let us know. Boy, you let us know. How's this going? In the future. I'm sure in the future. In the future. I'm just curious. I'm a little nerd when it comes to that kind of stuff.

You know. I'd rather we do something else with that money. I feel like there's so much other things that we can do. I watched the interview with Katy Perry, and she was talking about it, and it just felt very, like, out of touch. It just seemed very unnecessary, very, like... I don't know.

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Yes, they are. Let's get into it. The Luxury Black Girl TikTok. Okay. I'm here for it. I love anything luxury, dealing with black girls. What's that about? So basically, it's more than just aesthetics and designer bags. It's a whole vibe and a lifestyle movement that shows black women living in ease, peace, and abundance.

I feel like that's me right now. I Just I'm just not right And get your black what I do your black girl luxury yes, we need to see it the people see it We gotta think about it Seeing Solo trips. I think about the solo trips. I don't think solo trips. If I go on a trip, I have to go to the bubble. I'm not a solo person.

Champagne, cheers. Okay. Brunches, sip roll. Listen, we have chefs and drivers on call. I feel like we're living that black girl luxury. Mm-hmm. We deserve. We deserve.

And whatever capacity that is, you know, whatever it is. If it's a candlelit dinner or you splurge in on something that you want, it is drawing that bath. I definitely love a solo trip. It's therapeutic for me. So I'm my best self after I tap in and do something that I love. I feel like we deserve and really just everyone is in general self love.

And it's time. So it's good to be motivated too. I feel like we need to see excellence in all different realms, whatever that looks like. You know, I love to see the girlies pop they shit. Wait, I do. You know, live that life luxury and prayers and enjoy. and enjoy. That's true. So the black women are saying I deserve softness, wealth, rest, and beauty and I don't have to hustle myself into the ground to earn it. It's also about representation for years. Luxury spaces were gate-kept and mostly shown through a white lens. Now black women are claiming that, showing that we belong at five star hotels, wellness retreats, high fashion and luxury homes too, without the apology.

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And I said, oh, you're so wrong. You're so wrong on that one, Rob. From Campside Media and iHeart Podcasts, listen to GoBoy on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What do y'all think? I feel like it's very empowering. I mean, I think there's two sides of it. I think it can be empowering. I think it's beautiful that we get to see, like,

Black women in that representation of living in luxury and living a soft life. I think that's beautiful. We didn't get to see that. And social media is a platform now that we can, like, really look into people's lives and see, you know, how they're living. So I think it's great. But on the other side of it, I do think it does put pressure on other women for us to keep up, like keeping up with the Joneses. You know what I mean? Like trying to one up each other and, you know, just do what somebody else is doing.

And I think that it's easy to get caught up in it because, you know, of course, everybody's showing like their highlight reels on social media, but they're not showing, you know, what they had to do to get it. And some of these women, I feel like, they not always doing positive things to get to what they're doing.

Like, let's be real about it. Like, some of these women are... And I heard some stories, the girls going to, like, do fine, and you know what I'm saying? And they not showing who's boat they on. They not showing who's, you know, paying for everything. They're PJing. Okay? So, you know, it's two-sided. Like, yes, we love it for them, get it how you live,

but, you know, just know that everything on social media isn't always what it seems. And, you know, you shouldn't put pressure on yourself to have something that the next person has, you know? And also, I think it's important to romanticize whatever you have going on. Like luxury for you might be something different. Luxury to me is, you know, being in my backyard,

being able to just lay out there for, you know, for hours and then just enjoying nature. To me, that's luxury. You know, living in Florida to me is a luxury because, you know, first of all, living in Florida is expensive, but we have beautiful weather, we have beaches there, you know, so it's not always about, you know, material things or, you know, going places. It's finding those little things at home

that you feel like are a luxury and I'm emphasizing those things because once you start romanticizing and wanting what other people get, that's when I feel like it's not so much empowering anymore. Now it's something else. But I just feel like the mindset of people who look at it like saying, you know,

or in an envious way, then they need to change their mindset. I'm all about, you know, us showing, showing what we worked hard for. Because everybody's not blessed. Some people are not blessed to have it, but to be able to experience, I feel like it, when I watch someone traveling somewhere that I haven't been in, it's beautiful.

It just gives me motivation to work harder, if I want to go there. So I feel like for me, it's just motivation. And I love to see it because and I'm I love to see it so much that I'm I'm actually showing my kids. I'm because it wasn't shown to us. So be able to experience it to be able to see it to be able to see more of us black women being able to travel abroad. It's just of us black women being able to travel abroad. It's just beautiful.

Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate it. I'm with you guys both of the whole empowering thing, but it does, it can get a little tricky just because it is Instagram. It is an instant moment that you showcase, but at the end of the day, people are creatives, people are influencers, and it is motivational

to where you can like, hey, you should come travel and do this here. You should go to this restaurant or you should do this activity. It is education at the palm of your hands if you're able to afford it and it is luxury. It is a blessing living here in Miami. We get to have the weather, the beach, these beautiful restaurants, but it is expensive. And it's like, I agree with you also, Raelle, that you work hard, you get to play hard. So this is very much given that we deserve.

With this administration right now though, these prices going up on everything, it's just going to be a tough time just with the basics for everyday people. So luxury will change, I feel like, in a little bit. It's more like, is it home cooked meals? Is it candlelit dinners? It's gonna be an adjustment period for sure, just because prices are going up

with a lot of things right now. So it could be a little taxing on everybody, emotionally, economically, like just very much, you know, it can be, it's going to be tough, you know, just really trying to adjust to all of this. So, um, you know, I love to encourage, I love that we are encouraging women and men just in families to really see what else is out there. So kudos to y'all ladies. Yeah. I love to see like the Black travel creators.

Do you think luxury content and power... Oh. I'm sorry. What'd you say, Ash? Go ahead. No, I was just saying, like the Black travel creators, like the Black girls I see, like, going all over different places, and not like the typical places that we see. I love following those pages.

Like those are one of my favorites to watch, because it's like, look at this black girl all the way over there in Noemian's land, okay? Like, I love that. I love seeing that. Yes, I do. Definitely. Do you think luxury content empowers black women I love that. I love seeing that. Yes, definitely. Do you think luxury content empowers black women

to dream bigger or does it trap them to unrealistic expectation? Well, I think it's about dreaming bigger. Like you can see it. If you can see it, you can do it. And I feel like the more that we are showing, you know, just content, or you showing like, hey, I feel like the more that we are showing, you know, just content or you showing like, Hey, I did this, it's safe. It's affordable. I did it this

way. There's alternates of doing things a certain way or solo traveling couples. It's motivational. A group, you know, you know, getting the ladies together to like, you know, you see what we made it out the group chat those kind of things is definitely motivational. So it's just like I love to see it. I want us to be able to see an example, especially somebody that looks like me or like my children, like, hey, you can attain to do this as well. A lot of it is we compare ourselves to celebrities and all the entertainers and things like that. But I think it's good when people can relate to us in a certain way to where they're like,

look, I can get there too. I can be able to travel and do X, Y, Z, because they want to see it. It's motivational. So I think it has gotten more creative. I applaud it. I love it. It's a space for us everywhere. Yeah, I definitely agree. Would you date a man who didn't fit into your luxury lifestyle even if he brought you peace and stability? Oh, we kind of talked about this, Ashley. Yeah, we did.

So what y'all thought? What are the jobs? What did y'all talk about? What my career is? So, honestly, okay, so our conversation, we were talking about compatibility in... Sorry, my last shoes. ...compat compatibility in relationships. And, you know, I'm all the way in Africa.

And, you know, this is probably like my, well, it's my second time coming to Africa in the last, what, month and a half. I've been on numerous trips and, you know, people wanna know like, how is that? Like you, you know, Phil's at home with the kids and So we were talking about compatibility and Phil he is not like he's not the guy who wants to get up and travel everywhere But he knows that I am

And so I feel like you know It's not that first of all Phil is very bougie. So when he does travel he is all about luxury Well, Phil is very bougie. So when he does travel, he is all about luxury. But if we're talking about just traveling as a luxury and that being my thing that I love to do, I don't think it's a problem as long as your person understands who you are. As long as you don't get into the relationship

and you do a 180 flip on them. Phil knew who I was when he met me. He knew I loved to travel. He knew I'm very spontaneous. I will get up and go at the drop of a dime. So to me, we are compatible, even though we don't necessarily like the same things. Not that he doesn't like to travel,

but it's not a priority for him like it is for me. You know, I think as long as you both know who each other are and your lives fit together the way, you know, they should when you become one, then I don't think it's a problem. But if, you know, a requirement for you is that your partner travels with you and enjoys the same luxuries as you, then yeah, of course, I can see that being an issue. So I think as long as you just are upfront about, you know, what it is that you enjoy and if you need your partner to be there enjoying it with you, you know, you just have to, it's all a conversation and knowing who you are and knowing who your partner is.

I agree 100%. I feel like what you see is what you get. And obviously I'm a traveler too, so whoever I end up with is going to know that that's a non-negotiable for me, whether it's traveling with my children, whether it's traveling for myself, for work, for anything like that. And the same with that person too. I love traveling with a mate, you know, that's a different kind of trip in itself, but it's definitely about being compatible 100% and also communication. But I'm not going to change who I am. You know, it has to be put in the budget.

It needs to be put in whatever the conversation is about what it is that fulfills me because this is what I'm bringing to the table as Alexis, whomever I'm with, like match the energy. And I would love to be with a person that wants to travel and wants to explore and see what else is out there. So compatibility with luxury, all of that goes hand to hand for sure, 100%. And to have that balance actually is a blessing for sure. All right. And that's what I was telling Ashley. And to have that balance actually is a blessing for sure. All right.

And that's what I was telling Ashley. I feel like if mine didn't like the luxury travel, as long as you're not on me or trying to boss me or dictate where I go or how long I stay, then we're fine. But if you're starting to complain about me traveling because you don't like to travel, then there's a definitely an issue. Yeah. Yeah. And I felt like, you know, you have to do whatever they think is their luxury, too. It's like it's also a compromise.

You know what I'm saying? So he'll go on my little trips with me or whatever, and, you know, I'll let him stay home, do what he wants. But he also will let me go do my own thing. So, for me, that's a luxury in my relationship to still be able to go and do the things that I want to do, you know? So. Absolutely.

Ashley, I truly love you. That's right, it's a blessing. Yes, it is. Okay, what's next? Do y'all think that men respect women with standards or just call us high maintenance when they can't afford us? Do?

I think the ones who don't have it are calling us high maintenance. The ones that don't have it always complain a lot. Yeah, exactly. That's it. Just plain, like, because I feel like, you know, a man will definitely splurge or want to court or want like, you know, a man will definitely splurge or want to court or want to, you know, show off or whatever the case may be. So, you know, you don't want anybody who's just very much like, you know, this is too

much or I can't handle it or they're gonna definitely call us high maintenance for sure. I mean, we've read it. We've seen it. You know, it is what it is, but it comes with the territory. If you like, I mean, if we can go and have a good lunch and, you know, we have amazing lunches, that's just lunch y'all for a business meeting or just, you know, traveling to go to Turks to do business or show up for whatever. The case may be little things. I mean, it just comes with the territory who they're dealing with as well.

So of course we gonna be called high maintenance or bougie or whatever the case may be, but I love an ocean view if there's an ocean wherever I'm traveling to. So that's what I want to do for myself. And I work hard enough to make sure I'm gonna see the ocean if I'm traveling to so that's what I want to do for myself and I work hard enough to make sure I'm gonna see the ocean if I'm right there, you know, like that's a splurge for me or things like that So I said call me high maintenance record is but I know exactly what I'm on

Okay, I know that's right Okay, we just need to stay in they pay great Okay, we just don't want this part. I just need to say they pay great. Not saying they pay great. They just need to say they pay. They do. They need to date your pay. Date your pay range, whatever you want to spend.

Don't talk about it. Just what type of woman, but by how you get paid. But don't, don't get in your. Uppity, high maintenance, gold digger, just all those words make me cringe. I'm just like, what would be it? You know? I'm just like, what do you... You know? Yeah.

All right, so I got a game. It's called Luxury or Lie. Okay? So I got a few. Luxury or Lie? All right, so y'all tell me, is it luxury or lie? You can't call it luxury if it's being financed by Clarena or Afterpay. Clarena or Afterpay is like, layaway, right?

I think so. That's a lie. That's a lot. That's a lot. Yeah. That's not a thing. Well, no, no, no. Let me take that back.

If it's luxury, it's luxury. No matter how you got it, it's luxury. Maybe you wanted to, you know, you had something come up and you had to put that on after, what do you call it after care after pay? Yeah after pay. What exactly is it like layaway you put you pay on it and then you get the luxury luxury with clarinet and after pay. You can go on the Chanel website and um purchase And purchase after you pay Chanel flats. Yeah, it's a lie. That's not luxury. I think it's.

I feel like if you gotta pay that on Lailaway, it's not luxury. It's like, if you put, no, let's put it like this, since we're talking about travel, like flights and hotels, luxury hotels, if you put it on after you pay. Okay, if you put it like that. Okay, I mean, yes, that could still be considered luxury. Because them flights are expensive as hell.

I looked up them Paris flights to go see a Nia say in June. Child, the tickets was $10,000. I'm gonna have to go to the after pay. Is that the first time? Yes, girl. Sign me up for the after pay. Because what? So you pay after you attend. I don't know how it works. I'm not going to go sign up.

I might be Before it's like you paying installments you can it like that But you don't get it until you pay it off. So to me by the time you pay it off or whatever the case may be It's like credit. No like kind of you know It's kind of yeah, it's like a credit Yeah, it's a it's like a credit card without the credit the car. Beyonce need to do her tickets on After pay because them motherfuckers was high too this whole Situation is that is expressive?

Okay All right. Next one. And uh, she live a She live a lot of luxury every day. You can't be a luxury black girl if you work a nine to five. A lot. That's a lot. That's a lot. Who said that? In my portion.

That's horrible. That is a horrible. Yeah, that's horrible. I was living a luxury lifestyle working nine to five. Now I work longer than nine to five. Just to maintain that. Yes, and in order to have that nine to five, you gotta give vacation time.

You gotta have self time. You gotta get away. You gotta relax. You gotta, you know, we working really much. We really overworking ourselves. We working to live instead of living to work. It's a difference. You know, it's not the same. So, you working hard. Take your time off.

All right. Next one. Having a roster of men who spoil you equals main character energy. A roster that men who spoil you equals main character energy. A roster that spoils you. Gives main character- Come on single ladies, y'all got a roster? Main character energy though? I mean, I am the main character. I would hope that I would be, you know?

To me, a roster of wearing equal that. It's about the roster. So basically the roster of being is paying for everything. Yeah, you got a roster of men spoiling you, buying you everything, paying your rent, paying your car note, taking youiling you, buying you everything, paying your rent, paying your car note, taking you on trips, buying you bags. So that means you are living in luxury and you're giving main character energy.

I didn't forget. That's what they said. Oh, that's a little- See, I feel like that's not luxury for me because I don't like to, first, I don't like to depend on a man. And that's temporary. Why would you want a group of men paying for everything that's temporary? What happens when you get older, all those men fade away. Now you're not experiencing that luxury lifestyle no more.

Now it's hard for you to really make money because you have been so codependent on these men taking care of you. It's a temporary tax. And they having to rock, that's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. And then obviously if they're giving something, they of work. You know, it's just, and then, you know, obviously if they're giving something,

they want something in return, whether it's time, whether it's affection, whatever the case may be. But like, I don't think I would be accepting someone to like take over my, like my payments or whatever the case may be. I don't trust like that. You know, I understand like what Sherelle is saying. I don't want to depend on that.

That wouldn't really be, I mean, so I guess would that be a lie? I mean, but we know people who do this. This is how they survive. I'm just not going to depend on it. I don't want to. Itcomes financially like abusive at that independent. Yeah, it's not. It's not.

Next one. If he flies you out, but you're in Spirit Airlines basic economy. Is that luxury? I mean, you can't flew out. I didn't have that happen to me. No, you didn't. Not on the spirit.

I was in Ramen Noodles. Girl, I got on the spirit. I was in Ramen Noodles. I had my little Coke. I had my little spirit package. My little spirit starter package. But did you think you could? I'm not going to hold a big seat in the front.

The big seat, I was about to say. I didn't even have the big seat. I didn't even have the big seat. I had a regular seat. He love you, girl. He love you. I mean, it's tough. I feel like the men that are attracted to us,

um, assume it'll be first class or business. Um, but I feel like at the same time, I'm gonna go and pull up on somebody that I like, you know? I'm gonna go pull up on them. Whether it's a train, car ride, whatever the case may be. If I like you, I'm gonna pull up on you. Yeah. If I can get there, I'm cool with that.

Cause I mean, some sound that is like. Next question. Would you, okay. Your man lived in LA. Right. You would take a four and a half hours flight on frontier airlines. Well, there's no internet, no Wi-Fi. You can't text, you can't stroll,

and there's no first class seats. Definitely need to be some kind of, that would be tough. Not Frontier Spirit, not going cross country. I wouldn't be able to do it. I'd rather honestly, you know. That's not true love. I'd rather upgrade myself. do it. I rather honestly, you know, that's not true. I read it. Upgrade myself. No, I had to open.

Now that you said a long flight, that's different. That's a long flight. Now a quick flight to really, which you said no internet, no recline. I'm sorry. There was no, there was, I was economy, no internet, nothing. All the flights were booked out, and the only thing that was left was a frontier flight. I'm trying to make myself feel better.

I'm gonna do it, because I'm about that life. I'm gonna go. I'm thugging it out, though. I'm gonna be thugging it out. But what if he, but what if there were other seats available, but he purposely got you the economy, you know? Does that make a difference? Are you like looking at him different now? Yeah, I'm definitely looking at him.

You know? Yeah. I just say, I always say this, don't introduce me to something you can't make. Yeah. But I will pull up on you. You know, I will pull up. All right.

That's it for our luxury or lie game. That was cute. That was fun. I'm going to do that again. That was cute. That was fun. I'm gonna do that again. That was cute. That was cute. Yeah, that was. Mm-hmm. I'm Israel Gutierrez, and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dove Dynasty, the story of how the Golden State Warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade.

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Michelle Obama finally addresses the growing rumors about her and former president Barack Obama heading for a split. But instead of confirming the gossip, she flips the script. This isn't about divorce, it's about rediscovery. With her daughters grown and her White House duties long behind her, Michelle shares that for the first time,

she's prioritizing herself. But why is a woman choosing herself still such a radical concept? And why did the public jump straight to divorce just because she wasn't by Barack's side? What do y'all think about that? I mean, they showed something where it was Sean Barak walking into a type of establishment with another woman. Like recently, I think I didn't see that. I missed that one. So is that where this kind of sparked the whole thing or this was just in general? That's what I'm thinking because, you know, I was scrolling through the blogs and I seen

where they had a video footage. So maybe that's where the, and the boys rumors came from. You know, saying that I'm supposed to send them my stuff. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah, I hate, I really hate that she had to even just say anything. Um, I mean, we obviously don't know what's going on behind closed doors, but at the same thing again, I hate that she had to say this, um, only because she is doing what she wants to do right now.

We're talking about Michelle Obama, the former first lady in my eyes, she's always the first lady and so is Barack. So this is what she wants to do right now. We're talking about Michelle Obama, the former first lady. In my eyes, she's always the first lady. And so is Barack. So this is what she's doing. She's great with motivation. She's a great mentor. We just look up to her. So regardless of whatever's going on in her personal life, I just think it's amazing

that she is doing what she wants to do. And I love seeing her in this space of where we can see her personality. Like I feel like she was muted low key being in the White House and being having to be the first lady of the United States of America. So now we can see her personality. And it's really low key just kind of like this respectful in a way that people are coming at her like this because it's like, look, I don't have to fit in this box

that y'all want me to be in. Like I'm gonna show up for my people. I have my girls, I have my life, I have my education, I have my job, I have my books, I have my tours. She got things going on. And low key with security and national, like, she gets security forever. And her girls are grown.

So, like, do you. To me, it's very much her turn. And I feel like Barack is very much a, you know, supportive husband in that way of just like, it's your turn. Like, you sacrificed all these years for me. They met when they were, like, he's your turn. Like you sacrifice all these years for me. They met when they were like, he used to work for her.

So it's like, you know, it's your turn babe. Like you sacrifice for me, you sacrifice everything, your freedoms, just these little things we take for granted. So now she has the freedom of speech to really just, you know, be herself and we getting to see her personality and I like it. So shout out to Michelle Obama, you know, be herself and we getting to see her personality. And I like it. So shout out to Michelle Obama. You know, I like her a lot.

You know, I think it's definitely time for her to focus on herself. Yeah. I think she is. It's definitely time for her to focus on herself and people should inspeculate like, oh, it's a divorce because she chose to focus on herself and people shouldn't speculate like, oh, it's a divorce because she chose to focus on herself. I mean, you know, she supported Barack while he was in office and it was all about Barack. Now, you know, she had her book came out. It did great. It's time for her to focus. I mean, they've been together for years,

for years. So now it's time for me to take a ride in the front seat. for years. So now it's time for me to take a ride in the front seat. Antically seen as a trouble in the marriage. Because it's outside the norm. It's not normal, but she's not normal. Like, let's be real. And it's 2025.

Like, think shift, you know? There's gonna be times in any relationship where you working right now, I might not be. I might be following my passion, and you might not be right now, vice versa. It's a growing process. I mean, they have been together for so many different periods. And, I mean, I bet you, week one, when they were starting the day, he was like, I bet you he

was not like, hey, I'm going to run for president one day. You know, so it came with adjustment time. It came with them really getting on this bandwagon together and really being it happens. And so she low key, you know, put herself on pause to really support her husband, which is what we do. So, this is the first time you're seeing this man that has been such put on a platform to be very masculine and very much dominating, to be like, my wife is gonna do what she's gonna do.

And shout out to like, you know, even Joe Biden, for example, his wife, Dr. Jill Biden, was still teaching. She was like, I'm still gonna teach. I still gotta go see my students. I was like, I'm still gonna teach. I still gotta go see my students. I still wanna go to teach at the university. So I'm gonna keep doing what I'm gonna do. So I'm here for it.

It definitely is a double standard whenever it comes like that. But Michelle Obama is the boss. So boss, boss, let's go and get it. What do y'all think? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think she is probably just being who she's always been. I'm sure one of the main things that attracted President Obama to her is who she is as an

individual. And like you said, Sheryla, I think she probably was, or I don't know, Alexis, you might've said it, she was like muted. She's been not in the background, but she was busy supporting Obama and everything that he was doing. So now is her time to step out and do her own thing.

And I think they've shown us that they are a very supportive couple. I don't, I mean, even if there is a rumor, I just don't see them divorcing. Like, I just don't see that from them. They have been through something that nobody could imagine. Like, he was the first black president. You know what I mean?

I just, they would, That legacy is something special. So to have a divorce, I just don't see her even entertaining that. She, like, I feel like what she's doing is just gonna... She's focusing on herself, which she should absolutely do. And I think in marriages, like you said, Alexa, there's times where you just focus on yourself and there's nothing wrong with it. It doesn't mean there's something wrong

with your relationship. It's just a time for everything. Some things need more attention and effort at different periods in the relationship. But do you think that we glorify the superwoman behavior in women, but then punish them when we say that they need a break? behavior in women, but then punish them

when we say that they need a break? Mm. Mm-mm. That's tough. That's the good one. That was a great question, by the way. I always say, like, I don't subscribe to that Superwoman, you know, idea.

You know what I mean? Like, I wanna be great at everything that I'm doing, but, you know, I'm only human. I'm not superhuman. And I don't want anybody to, like, hold me to that standard. You know what I mean? I'm doing the best I can. Sometimes, you know, I need to take mental health breaks. Sometimes I need to, you know, let Phil take the lead on parenthood because right now, whatever I'm going through, you know, I need to focus on something else.

I don't know, but I don't subscribe to that. I just feel like that's added pressure and weight on me that is not needed and it's not necessary. So I think it's very healthy to know when you need a break because how can you take care of everybody in a healthy way if you don't take care of yourself? Like we all know that you gotta take care of yourself first. So I don't subscribe to that Superwoman,

but I mean, I know though personally, people that I look up to, women that I know that I absolutely, I look at them and I'm like, damn, y'all are really super women, because y'all out here killing it, you doing this, this, and that. So, like, you know, I'm not saying that I glorify them, but I definitely give them credit, you know, when credit is due. And I can definitely see it in other women, like, you know, when they're just giving their all 100% every time I see them,

they are really just, you know, it's inspiring, you know, it they're just giving their all 100% every time I see them, they are really just, you know, it's inspiring, you know, it inspires me. So, not that I glorify it, but I, you know, I see it. I don't... Yeah, I support it. But I don't think we should, like, push women to be that. You know? Yeah, it can get real exhausting, you know,

especially when you factor in children and so many roles that we play that we are nurses sometimes, we are the ballet service, we are drivers, we're tutors, we're all these different, we wear many hats. And so, like, you know, it does come off like it could be, like, superwoman or whatever, but it definitely is a stigma of, like, you should take care of yourself. And, right, what you said, Ashley, to recognize like, you know what, I need a break because

it gets overwhelming. We run ourselves so thin, we get unhealthy, we start snacking on bad things and we don't take care of our health, we miss appointments or these things because we're putting everybody before us. So I feel like it should be more of a movement. And I love this movement of like self-love, take your time out, talk to somebody, hang out with your friends, just to have an outlet where you just not working all the time because people are working, you know, whatever their shift is, and then

turn around and have to work at home and then, you know, or whatever the case may be. So it's just like, um, it's good to have that balance, to really just like take the time and breathe and relax and take care of yourself. Because without that, then everything falls apart. Everything. You know, the household, all of that. That's true. Y'all know I'm big on that.

Yeah. Are women still expected to sacrifice personal freedom once they become wives and mothers? And why hasn't that changed? I don't think you should sacrifice, you know, personal freedom. Like Lex said, and you know, we're big on speaking on that in order to take, to provide for your family or take care of your family and your kids, your husband, everything. You have to take care of yourself first. So when you sacrifice that,

you start seeing a bad pattern, like your behavior, how you move, you start hating things because you're not taking care of yourself physically and mentally. So. Yeah, I think, I think that women naturally sacrifice, you know, for their children, for their husbands, for their families, because we're just nurturers. And, you know, we want everything to be good and everybody to, you know,

thrive and be comfortable. So, you know, when we start sacrificing too much, you know, to where we lose ourselves, I think that's where it becomes a problem. So I think there has to be, you know, a balance, you could say, when it comes to it, you know. But I think sacrificing like personal freedom though is, is a bit much, you know what I mean?

I know there's a lot of women who feel like once they get into a relationship, you know, they got to do whatever they may say, it can't go nowhere. Like that's a lot to, to sacrifice. And in this day and age, you know, there's a lot of women and relationships that we can look up to that are thriving and they don't have those specific demands. So I think it is changing. I think it is and are doing a lot for themselves. I think it is changing too, especially just because you're like, this is who I am.

And to find a partner that is going to support you and really be there for you to like, this is what I need to do for myself. And people need to, I feel like we just have to do more personal days too. Where even if you are feeling good and you feel like, you know what, I need a day just to, you know, for myself. I'm feeling good right now. We need to encourage more of that. And just those personal days of just like, you know,

stepping back, because it's a lot, you know, we live in a world of, again, instant gratification, showing things off, and like, it could be family traditions of having, you know, certain standards for your household. So it's a lot of pressure that's outside of your space and outside of your home. So you have to take care of your mind and your heart first.

Again, cause everything else will fall apart. That's just how I feel. Yeah, that's true. Thank you. Okay. Ladies, y'all got a little bit to keep yourself first. Choose yourself first. Take care of yourself so that everyone else can get taken care of.

Yes. And the partner that sees you, you know, just knows who you are and vice versa. Like, allow them to have that space too because that needs to be encouraged. Also, like, you know, do something for yourself, whatever that might be on both ends. Yeah. The championship is back in the Bay for the first time in 40 years. On the new limited podcast series, Dub Dynasty, we hear from head coach Steve Kerr on how Steph Curry almost never even joined the Warriors. In fact, I thought we had a draft day deal to end up getting him to Phoenix.

For the entire behind the scenes story of Golden State's incredible 10 year run, listen to Dub Dynasty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Sam Mullins and I've got a new podcast coming out called Go Boy, the gritty true story of how one man fought his way out of some of the darkest places imaginable. Roger Caron was 16 when first convicted. He spent 24 of those years in jail. But when Roger Caron picked up a pen and paper, he went from an ex-con to a literary darling. From Campside Media and iHeart podcasts, listen to Go Boy on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts,

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