Club Shay Shay - Humble Baddies - Part 1: Trump Pardons The Chrisleys + Muni Long Hit Back at Haters

Episode Date: May 29, 2025

Sharelle, Alexis & Ashley react to President Donald Trump pardoning reality stars Todd and Julie Chrisley, Grammy-winning R&B artist Muni Long recently opening up about why she believes some Black women don’t resonate with her personality, and much more!01:38 - Introduction08:00 - Trump Pardons The Chrisleys19:45 - Muni Long talk perception(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I miss my humble daddy. Hi, ladies. Listen, we moved out from Memorial. First, we want to thank everyone who served. Memorial is about the veterans who lost their lives serving. So shout out to the families that have supported and the ones that gave their life and lost their lives. So shout out to the families that have supported and the ones that gave their life and lost

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Girl, I can't grill. That's my daddy job. I did, actually. I had some grilled Alex, some good soul food. We had some yams, greens, macaroni and cheese. Oh, so you threw down the antenna? It was getting down. It didn't get no invite or nothing. The invite.

It was going down. It didn't get no invite or nothing. It was going down. We're celebrating over here. I've been working in the restaurant all weekend. It's so hard. I'm tired of that already. How is that start? I don't like that. So it's been an adjustment because I'm standing up for hours upon hours during the day.

And so like it's active. They knew. They knew you'd be back there. Yeah, like it's active. It's new. Be back there. Yeah, I'm back there. I'll check you out. Yes, come. I'm there Friday, Saturdays and Sundays. Let them know when you're back.

Yeah, so I'm there Friday night. Yeah, so everyone come through. I'm in the kitchen. I come out, I speak to... Where they gonna go, Lex? You tell the people where they gonna go. Smith and Webster, North of the beach. So I will see y'all.

I will be in the back, come through. It's good food. And I'm getting to know everybody, so this is like a new experience for me. Like, all the cooks that are there before, there's a couple other interns that are working and just like the executive chefs. And everyone's been welcoming. So I was like nervous,

because you know, from television shows and all of that, what we see, you know, very intense. But I just jumped right in and just feel familiar and I'm just very passionate about it. What was the first thing that you cooked? You were back there. It was a peach cobbler waffle. So I was like, oh, the first one. They cobbler waffle. So, I was playing for the first time.

They have red velvet waffles? No, not right now, but like... We need some red velvet waffles. Yeah. Okay, okay. Yeah, they have a menu. They have about, like, about 15 things on the menu. So, it was like intense.

And, um, it was pretty cool though. It's a great weekend. I survived. And I'm here. And then, like, all my babies are home. Just Elijah's the last one in school, so everyone is just wrapping up. You got to be an empty nest there soon. Yeah, it is quiet. They're with their father. The perks of co-parenting.

So, technically, I'm ready vacationing, so... Okay, nice. Congratulations. Thank you Okay, nice. I'm so happy. What about you? Congratulations. Thank you, thank you. I said, what about you all? How was your weekend?

My weekend was good. What'd I do? Oh, I got my chicken coop finally. Yeah, I sent a delivery. My chickens got a nice new beautiful home. Oh, wow. Yeah, and so now I'm trying to teach them how to go in the hen house at night.

I'll be talking, I feel like you, this ain't the life you imagined, did it? Like, you ain't think you was gonna have to live with it. You just have put all them chickens on film, put on film, we feel bad for you. I mean, making him do all kinds of stuff. And now I'm trying to get him to build me all kinds of stuff. Yeah, yeah, it's an adventure every day, Ashley.

It's a whole thing. Y'all should, Ashley should. Just let me know when the eggs drop. I will. I'm not talking about much with the eggs. We got a little while before they start laying eggs, but I'm gonna let y'all know. Please, thank you.

I wanna be the first one that, I wanna test them out, because I ain't never had no real'all know. Please, thank you. I wanna be the first one that, I wanna test them out because I ain't never had no real, you know, organic, natural. Mm-hmm. They're the best. You can keep them room temperature too. Yeah, no, they are. They last like a long time too. All the eggs you get in the grocery store are old. Yeah.

Eggs for like 30, 40 days, 60 days, if you don't wash them off. Are they gonna be different color eggs? Yes, girl. I have five different breeds of chickens, so I have all different colors. Yay. Ooh, did you have to get them shots and stuff?

Yeah, I did. And then I gave them like medicated feed while they were young to keep them nice and healthy, So we doing all of your... Well, we ain't got nothing to worry about over there then. That's good. I love it. I love it. I want you to... Ms. Brown-Rail.

I was in Charlotte for the weekend. I went to go visit my best friend and check on, you know, we'll have a brokerage up there as well. Um, and I didn't cook, but the day before Memorial Day, Sunday, I went to Kitchen & Cocktail. Oh my goodness. What's that? It's a restaurant. The food was amazing. If y'all ever in Charlotte, I know they have a few areas.

I think it's one in D.C., somewhere in Texas, and the one in Charlotte. That's the only one I've really been to. When I tell you it's a nice soul food, like luxury restaurant, everything is on point. Everything. The collard greens, the macaroni and cheese, the candy yams, the blackout peas, the cornbread, everything. Like, I literally order everything when I get there. So I've been, you know, being back this weekend. As we should. We have to treat ourselves. You know, I got my little break because the kids are in school, so, my little vacation time.

Good for you. Okay, nice, nice. Love it. Well, yeah, it was a good weekend. We needed that little break. It's the jumpstart into summer. So like that is like the, it's shifting from finishing up all these school events and so now prepping for the summer, where the kids are going to go internships,

camps, all these things, vacations, everything. Yeah. Yeah. Ice break. Much needed. Well, let's get into it. Yeah. Yeah. Ice break. Much needed. Well, let's get into it, you guys. Today, we're going to talk about some, everybody been going in on Donald Trump, but then they started saying more people than he had hadn't been pardoned.

So former president Trump has issued a full pardon to reality TV couple, Todd and Julie Chris Chrisley Fires of Chrisley Chrisley's knows best who were previously convicted of defrauding banks for more than 30 million and committing tax evasion the controversial decision has sparked outrage and Reignited conversations about privilege, justice, and celebrity favoritism in politics. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, it do seem like if you a little popular, you know what I'm saying?

You need a, you know, he's, I feel like he feeds off of popularity. Like he, the reason why he's in office, the reason why he's so popular now, like he won the popular vote. Like I feel like it really is almost a popularity contest for him. So while he's in office, he's still doing the popular thing and getting, you know, pardoning popular people to keep the people happy, you know,

keep the majority on his side. Cause a lot of people, you know, every now and then we start being like, damn, we voted this man in, look what he doing, but then he'll go and pardon, you know, these popular people, a lot of people in pop culture that people are very familiar with in their everyday, you know, lives and world. And it kind of is like, oh, well, that's cool. You know, a lot of people aren't super political. So once they see like a pop star or a reality TV star

getting pardoned, you know, I feel like it keeps him... Relevant. Yeah. I agree 100% with you, Ashley. He is about the culture of being the most famous, the most popular, the most liked, making America great in so many capacities. But he understands.

One thing he does understand is the fact of the popular vote, the fact that you have the different demographics of whoever you're following. Because I agree with you that it's popular people, people that are famous, but then there was also, I guess, he's part of other people to the point that it's popular people, people that are famous, but then there was also like, I guess, you know, he's part of other people to the point where it's like, okay, if this person stands for something,

I'm gonna be the one that's gonna be the culture shifter. Just so you can, my name is attached to it, so I'm gonna get the credit for it. And so he's very much like consistent with the fact that he wants that limelight, and he's shifting that energy to like, let me be the one because I do eventually have the authority, which we see that he does. It's showing his power, you know, like, you know,

literally his signature is partnering people. And so he is favoritism in a lot of ways, but at the same time, it's almost erasing the smear of the other bad things that we think about him. Exactly. Somebody was saying that people was paying him for them to get part of him. But here's a list of who he recently, who he saw in today. John G. Rowling, former government of Connecticut.

Chantrell Gonddon, NBA Youngboy, Michael Graham, former New York rep, Kevin Eric Basin, Mark C. Bayshaw, Todd and Julie, Tanner Mansel and John Moore, Michael Harris and Larry Hoover. When you look at some of these crimes that they have committed, it's like... Yeah. Well, and then I guess it goes both ways, because it's like, okay, you're pardoning some of these people who committed crimes

that should be, you know, paying the price for what they've done, right? But it seems like, you know, he'll pardon some people, but then like the people that don't necessarily would have voted for him, they'll, he's letting those people go to, to keep, you know, to keep things in balance almost, you know what I mean? Like when he pardoned, um, Kodak andak or helped him get out, you know what I mean?

Like just finding ways to like stay popular, but still like keeping his agenda, like how he pardoned the January 6th. Resurrection. Resurrection. Yeah, yeah, but then, you know, he's teaming up with Kanye. Like it's like he does things like... That's in line with...

He did have a reality show, you all, with aspiring people. He was, you know, he is pop culture himself. He is mentioned on the Barts, like The Simpsons, you know what I mean? Like, he has been... been mimicked many times on Saturday Night Live. So he is pop culture. You know. I think it's fair, like, that he's doing this.

Like, how do y'all feel about it? I mean, this is letting, it's putting a spotlight on being a president of the free United States of America. So at the end of the day, he's showing his power of what he can do. And that's why it's important to vote, because the power is literally in the pen, in the signature, and he's showing that. And I mean, look at Joe Biden right before he left office, he pardoned his son.

So it's the power of the presidency. So whoever gets that seat, that's why it's very important who you're voting for. And honestly, President Trump wrote, he has everything he said he's been, he's going to do, he's been doing. Now that's one thing. He wrote it down. That's one thing I can say. So here we are, you know, so. I definitely don't think it's there. When you look at some of the crimes and then like the Chrisleys, look how much money they

frauded the government and they don't have, like, it's basically race now. But you have other people serving time, you know, serving time that did less, that didn't do as much. And you know, they're still sitting in prison. It's like, it does show like it's favoritism or if you have a big name, you know, we're gonna make sure you're taken care of. The system is just, it's not right. Wow.

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She said you left bruises, pulled her hair, that type of thing. No. How far would Joel go to cover up what he'd done? You're unable to keep track of all your lies, and quite frankly, I question how many other women may bring forward allegations in the future. This season of Betrayal investigates

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It's the same. He's doing everything. He's saying that, like, for example, white South Africans are being, you know, mauled and wiped away. So he brought them over here. And the president was sitting next to him in a meeting. You know, it's just, it's a lot,

it's all over the place, this politics, but let you know again, I keep saying this, the power of the presidency. It's a major thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know President Obama would have never been able to get away with this.

Oh. Oh, no. No, they criticize. Larry, who, President Obama, Larry, who, oh, they would have had a fit with President Obama talking so much. What?

I think I'm big bitch. So you think that people will go back and watch the Chrisleys when you think they have a TV show coming out, you think they gotta come back? Yeah. And Donald Trump might be producing it. We don't even know anymore. You think they have a TV show coming out, you think they got a comeback for TV. Yes. Donald Trump might be producing it. We don't even know anymore.

Like, it just might be part of it. Their daughter is very vocal. Like, she had her hat on. I think she low-key made the announcement, like, look, I think she even sat down with some kind of way, was connected to Donald Trump to be able to make this happen. So, of course... How to be. They gotta be full. So of course. How did we?

They got to be full core mega people. I'm sure. They've been doing this for years. This is all about that dollar. It's all about television. It's all about popularity. It's all about, you know, the different culture of reality TV. I mean, here we go.

Just shows what's going on. You know who had me who pissed off at Donald Trump right now? Cause his name went on that list. You know who had me who pissed off at Donald Trump right now because his name went on that list What's the one that was popular doing during? During the pandemic it was He had the Tigers or Me Oh Tiger King

Yes Joe right? I think it's no it's going on a rampage right now because his name is not on that list. He like, how you get rid of all these people going? I didn't do nothing. Oh, my goodness. Joe, I love that show. That was great, actually. It was a great docu-series. It was very entertaining. I wonder what happened to the cat lady.

You know, the cat lady is outside of Tampa. Yeah, I thought she had to like... Oh, in the high end basically, because everybody thought she for real killed her husband. I don't know, from the documentary. You don't need to pull up and see, um, around Tampa. I ain't gonna come up missing. I loved my life too much.

At the zoo. But from the documentary, it was suspect. She did it. The math was in math. She did it. She let them tigers eat her husband up. That's crazy. That did happen in COVID.

That was pure entertainment, by the way. They had us in a chokehold. I know I watched that, amongst other things, but it definitely was something to talk about. You didn't get enough of it. I was focused. Now I'm in on it. Yeah, you locked in. I was locked in.

It was... Yeah. Mm-hmm. All right, let's get into it. Monty Long is catching backlash. Is she misunderstood or misaligned? Grammy-winning R&B artist, am I saying her name right, Moni or Moony? Moni Long recently opened up about why she believes

some black women don't resonate with her personality. Her comments have triggered social media debates about perception, likability, and the often unspoken dynamics between black female celebrities and their audience. This conversation opens the door to deeper dialogue around authenticity. And while being unapologetically you still gets criticized even in 2025. So did y'all hear when when moneylone, she was like, basically, you know, black women don't resonate with her.

Yeah, but what is she talking about? Because we are her audience and I agree. We the ones singing her songs and doing the TikToks and all of that. What is she talking about? I agree. And it's like everybody is going to get criticized. Boo Boo Kitty, like you are a public figure and everybody knows like the haters are always the loudest anyway.

Like we know that, you know, and you've been in the business for how long now? Yes, that's where she's got some PR training and. She should take it with a grain of salt. I mean, you know, and be open to criticism. It doesn't mean you have to accept what they say. People are gonna talk. You are a figure. You can sing your ass off.

You're amazing. You're very talented. But people are gonna speak how they feel. Doesn't mean that they, you can't justify and just say all black women don't resonate with you. Right. That's not true. All of the big number.

Right. And you guys said it best, like, we are, we do listen to her. It's definitely our demographic. But she did say, like, her, what did she say? Like, her biggest fans are from Brazil and the Philippines. Which to me, like, you gotta stop. Like at the end of the day, Brazil has the most black people. So I don't know where she got her information from,

but, you know, I think it was just a mistake. And hopefully, you know, we can move past this and we're forgiving as we do. But, you know, we can move past this and we're forgiving as we do. But you know, let's make some good. I think she should probably take it up with her PR people, her branding people. If she feels like she's not resonating in the way that she wants to, if she's not, if her image isn't aligning with whatever she, you know she feels is true to herself, then maybe she needs to go back and redo-

Her A&R, right? Is it like- Yeah. She needs to go back with her people and have a conversation because maybe we aren't resonating with her the way she would like. But that's not... I don't feel like she should come on social media and be talking about it. It's like my aunties and aunties and our mamas, whatever.

She can't crucify every black woman just because she, because a few women have said certain things and you just only reading black women comments and now you're just saying now all black women don't resonate with you. You can't do that. Yeah. No. It's actually been a public figure.

The public figure you are, you have so many people looking up, so many black women looking up to you, so many black women that support you, so many black women that sing your song word for word that love you. Yeah. So I just feel like- That are supporting you. Right. Like you said, Ashley, you know, the PR training needs to be there because women that sing your song word for word that love you. So I just feel like that. Right. Like you said, Ashley, you know, the PR training needs to be there because now you're, you're really starting to get, you know, trolls and

everyone's starting to come in. Even the people who really supported you. Now they're looking at you different because of your comment. Yes. It's like a slap in the face. Like, definitely them. She has to leave her personal, like... I'd say, energy out of it.

And it's hard, though, because you're very talented. You've got to get people to come at you. You've got to ignore, you know, even us. You have to ignore what they say, because you know it's not true. Is she considered pop or R&B and soul? what they say because you know it's not true. Is she considered pop or R&B and soul? Well, I think she started in like country or something. Like she's like multi-favor.

Yeah, so I mean. Okay. I feel like she gets left from everybody and maybe, you know, she's closest to the black community. Maybe she hears more, I don't know, the negative stuff from, I don't know, but whatever it is, I feel like, you know, you have to, if you're a public person, you just have to know that not everybody gonna like you first of all, and that's okay. Why do we take it as, it's always as like, when it comes for you, when criticism comes from

your own community, why does it hurt more? Well, because it's a lineage and goes back to history of being attacked by our own people, the crab barrel effect, as well as we can be our own worst critics to each other. We don't wanna help each other. We don't wanna build help each other. We don't want to build with each other. We don't want to lift each other up. So it just comes from a generational hatred

of what was embedded in us, all the way taking it all the way back. So when we were not allowed to, we had to separate each other. You know, somebody was coming after us of our own color just to be in line with Masta and them. So it goes all the way back to that. somebody was coming after us of our own color just to be in line with Masta and them. So it goes all the way back to that. So it's just a lot of this lineage of generational hatred of just not everyone just kind of competing

for themselves. And unfortunately, women can be harsh against other women. We can beat each other up so much and we, you know, we should be glorifying our bodies and our skin colors and our textures of our hair. And all these things, we're just so targeted in one way, but at the same time, we're targeting each other. Right. But sometimes I feel like, you know, we can take criticism.

People take criticism as always. It's always a bad, but sometimes it's not. Sometimes, you know, you can take crit... We have to learn... Everything is an attack. Everything is not meant to tear you down. We're defensive. We're defensive, y'all. You know, it's just, we've been pitted against each other

for so long. And so we have these, like, hard shells, you know what I mean? It's just very much hard to penetrate it. And then when you try to give advice or criticize something, it's like, oh, it's a tech, but it's really not. It's like, okay, I'm supporting you, I'm watching you, I'm listening to you, I think you should do this,

coming from my hand, or, you know, and multiple people are saying it, it's not a tech. It's not an attack always. Yeah. You just have to learn how to be able to accept criticism. Maybe she was having a bad day. That could be a possible, that could be very much a possibility. Yeah. Do y'all think we're harder on our own than we are on others?

Why or why not? We hold ourselves to a high standard. Just again, being separated and being picked at over our history of being African Americans living here, unfortunately. So it's just very much comes with the territory of being blessed to be black, you know? And we have to do that shift of supporting one another and uplifting one another and being a sisterhood because that's where our strength lies. We have the most homes that, you know, single family households are owned by black women.

We're top entrepreneurs. We're very smart and educated. We're one of the highest educated demographic groups. So it's just, we have to lean on really our faith and understanding of knowing who we are and tapping back into our power and our essence of knowing who our, what our strength is and it's strength in numbers. So once we all lock in and get, and rally up and get together, there's no stopping this movement. That's true, Lex. Yes, it's real. Yeah. I mean, I think Ashley said it best.

I think she answered this. They asked, how should artists respond when they feel misunderstood or disliked? Anyone with a public figure. I feel like no response is the best response when it's something trying to, you know, approval point to make people like you when you feel disliked, like ignore it. Like, I feel like you create more commotion when you're... Oh, we're gross. This is, I love to gross. I'm about to finish. No, it's the truth. I mean, I'm a...

I can talk about it because I was there, but... I can talk about it because I was there. But it... Like, it creates more commotion and... It just, you allow those trolls to overpower the people who really look up to you. Like, when you don't entertain them, they eventually die down.

And it supports you, you know, they're there. So, I can speak for that, because, you know, I was in it. Yeah, there's growth over here. There's growth over there, baby. I find you gross. Take it away. Well, I'm not gonna look. Yes, yes.

You know, we can talk about that, you know, because obviously, us being public figures, we're learning and people have an opinion, especially when you do reality TV, especially when they know they can touch you. And so it's like, it is hard because we internalize it. We know who we are. We also know who we're raising. We also know everything we've been through.

And we're like, but we're trying to tell you we're not these people, you know, whatever the case may be. I promise you, I'm not. I promise you. But, you know, again, it's freedom of speech. Everybody has an opinion and they're gonna talk about it. That's why we can have a platform to talk on our own, too. So, here we are.

-♪ LAUGHS ______. -♪ Just kidding. What'd she look like? You say Ash? No, just the same thing y'all was saying. I feel like, you know, she or anybody in the public, I just feel like you just have to know it's gonna come at some point. But like I said, maybe she was just having a moment

and she couldn't take y'all shit no more, okay? Like you know what? What happens? You know, everybody done been there. We all done been there, where we just needed a moment to get it out, you know? We've all had a moment where we had a little Twitter beef or went back and forth with somebody in the DMs

or, you know, in the comment section or whatever. Like we've all been there, done that. So, you know, even though I do think she should have not said everything she said, we've all been there, you know what I'm saying? We've all had a moment of like, you know, we just feel like we need to say what we need to say. Right. Yeah.

But, uh, yeah, I don't think she should do that again, for sure. Girl, let it flow through your music, girl. Let it flow through you. Yes. I know that's right. I like that. But we love you, honeyloam. We do love you, honeyloam. I was, that was my jam. Yeah, it still is.

I couldn't get stuck in my damn head forever. Like, the notes that she hit, girl. See, if I can say I hit it, but I can't say we ain't got push on it. Hey. I'm no... Yes. Love her music. Yes.

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