Club Shay Shay - Humble Baddies - Part 1: Tyreek & Keeta Hill's Breakup & Navigating Toxic Relationships

Episode Date: May 8, 2025

Sharelle is joined by W.A.G.s to Riches star Porsha Berto to react to Tyreek and Keeta Hill's divorce rumors, navigating toxic relationships, and much more!02:10 - Intro10:14 - Navigating Toxic Relati...onships(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:52 52. 52. 52. I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy. I'm going to meet the guy. I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Emily Tisch-Sussman, host of the podcast She Pivots. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And I'm Keelan Murray. Both women pivoted out of their careers after having their kids, proving that motherhood is just another chapter in our journey, not the end. Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to She Pivots on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What happens when we come face to face with death?
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Starting point is 00:02:29 We're not, yeah, you know who can sing. Don't start with your shit. See, I knew, I knew that I knew that I knew. Never mind. Never mind. Hey, friend. Now I'm gonna get you hit double before we get off this live. I'm sick of you.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm sick of you. Hey, friend, I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. I knew. Never mind. Never mind. Hey, friend. We're gonna get you a dog before we get off this live.
Starting point is 00:02:47 I'm sick of you. I'm sick of you. Hey, friend. What's up, guys? We are back. Ashley and Alexis are out of town right now. They're handling business. So we have our one and only bad bitch good mom in the building as a special guest holding it down for us while Alexis and Ashley are taking care of business.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Our beautiful one and only Ms. Portia Birdo. Thank you, Fran. You all may know her from Wax the Riches. Ooh. My dog. I can't see you, Fran. You went away? You're on the camera. Don't stand like that.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Let me sit. My little soft block, hold on. Okay, I'm back, I'm back, I'm back. You back. Welcome, Portia. We are so excited to have you here with us. I'm so excited to be here. This is like, I don't know how long it's gonna be,
Starting point is 00:03:42 but this is time away from the chaos that is in my house. So if you hear screaming, if you hear a little boy coming here talking about, beep, beep, body, doodoo body, if you hear something, just know I'm just upstairs, tucked away. So thank you. But that's, that's what it is being a bad mom. I mean, you have to navigate through everything. Being a boss and, you mom and trying to do everything,
Starting point is 00:04:08 take care of yourself, take care of your family, be a wife, a mom, and entrepreneur. It's hard, but. It's very hard. I don't understand how people expect for you to make money and raise children and still be attractive and work out and self-care and go to church. I don't know how people do all the things. I'm not really sure.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I don't know, but I'm working it out. I lost you again friend. Oh, I know. It's really I don't know what's going on with my camera today. There you go. It's been a hater today, but we still don't, you know, navigate through this. How has everything been since Richard? Well, you know, when the show came out, my baby was eight weeks old. So I was like deep, deep in the trenches of mommyhood. So I really, I don't think I left the house after the show came out. Like, we went to Turks, we did the party.
Starting point is 00:05:07 After that, I went home and I didn't leave for weeks. And my first time leaving was my daughter's birthday. And I went to Disney World and somebody came up to me. This girl was like, oh my God, my husband recognized you. I love you on the show. And I looked like I didn't know what the hell she was talking about. I was like, what are you talking about, lady? I'm just like, I completely like, it just wasn't,
Starting point is 00:05:29 I was like, oh, she's like, I want a picture. I was like, oh shit, it's my first little pic. Like it was, it was a cute little moment. But honestly, I've just been raising these children. My baby's five months, almost six months now. So like I had like, I really haven't had a chance to slow down since it came out. It's been a lot, girl.
Starting point is 00:05:51 It's been a year. Yeah, it's hard. It's a lot. How is it with, you know, trying to, you know, first it was always Andre who was getting all that attention and everything because people may not know, but your husband is a professional retired boxer. Hold on, you got to give him his title back because if you... Wait, wait, you give him his title because I want Andre to call him.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I'm sorry, he's a 2004 Olympian, two-time world champion. You got to give him his stuff because he going to text me like, why y'all going to play me like I'm just old and posh. Just, all right, all right, all right. You don't like that. Don't introduce your husband correctly. So he's 2004 Olympian and two-time world champion. Let me say it before he come for me.
Starting point is 00:06:39 But yes, he is retired. Okay, from boxing. Not from business, but from boxing, he's retired. Girl, he still get plenty more attention than me. Them people love him. I know they love him, but how... But it was always, the attention was always on him. Now that, you know, you are on Netflix
Starting point is 00:06:57 and you have spotlight, have that spotlight as well. How was it? Was it like a shock or? No, we kind of just laugh about it. You know, we kind of just makes us giggle a little bit because he's like, look at you. And I'm like, I know. We just kind of laugh about it, but not much has changed. I told you, bitch, I don't leave the house.
Starting point is 00:07:17 You know I don't go no damn where. Like, come on. The crazy thing is, of course, you're so talented. You're more, to me, you're more talented than your husband. You can sing, you can dance, you know, you can act, you can do it all. And you're an amazing mother. So I feel like, you know, you need to put away some of them humble. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:37 That humble bit, and get out there. Yeah, I mean, I will. I'm coming out of my newborn era. I'm coming out the bubble right now. You know what I mean? Like I'm back working, I'm back real estate. Like I'm back, you know, I'm back doing the things. It just took me a little time. You know, third one, it's taking me a little time.
Starting point is 00:07:54 I had to get, try to get my body right. You know what I mean? You can't walk outside looking crazy, bitch, I gotta be fine. That's right. That's right. But we're gonna get into all that. We're gonna get into all that.
Starting point is 00:08:04 We wanted to do a quick Introduction of everything but let's go into our first topic for today. It is No, ma'am. No ma'am. No ham. No turkey Have you been? You've been You've been you've been traveling you've been traveling? You've been traveling? I've been traveling so much.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I was in another country and I had to go to the embassy to get an emergency passport because I ran out of pages. Not ran out of pages, humble brain. And I had other countries to visit while I was, you know, while I was traveling there and they were like, you're not going to be able to go. They were like, you're not going to be able to go to your next destination until you go to the embassy. You go to the embassy and you have to get your emergency passport. So thank God I was able to. What the hell? I was able to, um,
Starting point is 00:09:11 I was able to take care of that. So now I have another appointment tomorrow to go to the the passport office in Miami to get a full extended passport. So your girl can continue on with her amazing life. This is what I will say to you, and I say this to you all the time, you know, I'd be checking in. I'd be praying for my girl, okay? I pray real hard for you. And I just pray in all of your travels, wherever you at, whatever you doing, whatever's going on, that you just, you find a soft place to land and that you're just covered and happy and appreciated and just, you know what I mean? Because I prayed, I prayed, you know, I prayed for you.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And I just, whatever you're doing, wherever you at, whoever you with, I just be like, you know what? I just, I just want my friend to be out of the fray, out of the mess and somewhere just soft and in, cause ain't nothing friend, ain't nothing outside but what's up? Hookah and uh, who we up? Tequila. And rasta pasta, bitch. That's it. That's it.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Lamb chops, hookah, rasta pasta, bitch. That's it. That's it. Lamb chops, hookah, rasta pasta, and scammers. And I said, Lord, don't do it to my family. I just pray whatever you do it in all your travels, you just find a soft place to land. And I'm just, you smiling. And I'm just, I mean, I'm just happy. That's all. I'm just happy for you. I'm just happy. That's all. I'm just happy for you.
Starting point is 00:10:46 Of course, you always want the best for me. I appreciate it. Always, friend. Okay, so I'm going. I'm going to do a song block. Today we are talking about our very own, it's going to lead into it, but navigating through a toxic breakup, breaking up with the bullshit. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Yes, we're going in. So I know a lot of people have been seeing that, you know, our girl, Cheetah Hill, has been in the blogs. And it's not for a good thing. Cheetah and Tyree, you know, they've been going through a devastating breakup. And it's not looking good.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I don't like the fact that people are trying to come for her in regards to, you know, Tyrese has cut off all funds, allegedly, from what, you know, the blogs are saying. He basically cut off her debit card so she can't, you know, access any funds anymore. And people just reading the comments is like, well, you know, I thought she made her own money just reading the comments is like, well, you know, I thought she made her own money, blah, blah, blah, blah,
Starting point is 00:11:47 blah, this, that, and the third. And it's a lot of whipping, I don't like that. Well, one, I didn't see that. I know when everything first happened, I think I told you, I reached out to her and you know, she was appreciative and she seemed like she was okay. She was just like, you know, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:02 She was saying how there was paparazzi outside her building and it was like, it was just like, you know, it's crazy. She was saying how there was paparazzi outside her building. And it was like, it was a lot, you know what I mean? For like days, like it continued for a while. So, first and foremost, I just want to say that I'm all for like family. If family can work it out, if they can work it out, I want that so badly for her. But if it doesn't, you know what I mean? And I just wish that it's crazy because it's not even like
Starting point is 00:12:28 they're on the internet saying anything. They're not being messy back and forth. They're not doing it. This is literally just like, this is the public. This is the people, the blogs and everything. And I'm like, it'd be one thing if I felt like she was pulling everybody into her business, but she's really not even that type of girl.
Starting point is 00:12:42 You know what I mean? So it's just crazy to see how people have, like, such weighted opinions about it. Um... I don't know. It's kind of mind-blowing to see, I think. Especially the way they're going in on her, like... I don't know. I don't know. Because I think people lack a lot of empathy for anybody
Starting point is 00:13:03 that they think that is in a position of prominence. And it's, you see it over and over and over again. Anybody who has anything, any status, any money, any anything is like, there's no grace at all. Like they will tear you to shreds. But it's not even that, it's not even there, it's not even like they're going after the man. They're going after her, like it's her fault., you can't help who you fall in love with.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah. And people don't know the story or know what they've been through. So it's like, instead of... And I get it too. I mean, even with, you know, my breakup, when Chad and I broke up, it's like, you know, they came after me. But you don't know the story. You don't know what those two couples went through. And it's like they develop their own opinion and just, you know, it's always the woman who always get kicked at. And it's not right. It's not fair.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Do you think that's just because people just hold women to a higher standard in general? Like, we just supposed to have all the sense, I mean, which I kind of get. I just feel like they think that all you went after, like, with Keeta in the situation with her in the blogs, oh, she just wanted him for his money. She only got married just to get divorced, to try to get the money. That's all you see. It's always like, oh, because they're making money, because they're, you know, a higher profile individual.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I think that's what it is. It's always assumed it's a money grab. Yeah. So I don't know a ton about their relationship. Oh, I do know what she told me. And you know, they had a long relationship and then they broke up and she really went her way and he went his way and they really went over here. And you know, I can relate to that because that's exactly what happened to me.
Starting point is 00:14:45 We dated for a long time, seven, eight years, and then we broke up for a smooth year, year and a half. I went this way, he went that way, and he came back and got me. And from what I gathered, from what she told me, which they don't show on the show, it's a conversation we had, is that he really went back, and he went back.
Starting point is 00:15:04 He said, I want my momma back, let's really went back and he, he went back. He said, I want my mom and back. Let's get married today, tomorrow. Let's go. And they, and they did. But, yeah, I don't know. People are crazy. Fucking people. Oh, it's, it's like, it's hard, especially being in a high profile relationship. It's hard, like, dealing with the breakup. And I can speak, you know, speak on that, because I dealt with it. It's like, you're in a public relationship when you're happy. You got to go through that breakup in a public, and it's ugly. But it's just like, sometimes you just want some type of grace.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Like, you just want somebody just to, you know... Let me ask you something. Like, did you feel any, like, any responsibility to publicly kind of explain or give any explanation because your relationship, like you said, all the happy stuff was so public and, you know what I mean? Like, your child, whatever, he'll prop you up, he'll put you right here.
Starting point is 00:16:02 You're up on everything. You know what I mean? Like, he gonna... Just for real, like, he'll put you right here. You're up, I want everything. You know what I mean? Like he gonna, just you're up, like he gonna do that, right? Did you feel any responsibility to give any type of explanation or did you feel pressured to kind of tell your side or you know what I mean? Like when everything happened?
Starting point is 00:16:22 And it was some days I wanted to, because you get tired of, you know, the speculation. Yeah, the speculations and everything. But it's like, why? You know, let's just move on. You know, we have a beautiful child together, we can co-parent. And let's just work through this, you know, when it comes to co-parenting. I know people want to know, but you just have to, at one point I felt like I had to tell my side of the story, but it's like, why?
Starting point is 00:16:53 It doesn't mean, it's not gonna change anything. It's not. So just- It's not. Just carry on, you know what happened, you know, he knows what happened and God knows what happened. I mean, cause the people who are rooting for you are still very much like, shake it back there. They still very much on that vibe.
Starting point is 00:17:08 And then the people who was on the I Told You So train before, just waiting for something to happen, that the people still there, they still say stuff. So you're right. It doesn't matter. But I always wondered that, though, like, you know, if, if you felt like it would be disappointing for it to not just to you and him, but just to like, you know, if you felt like it would be disappointing for it to, not just to you and him, but just to like, you know, the fan. People who like supported y'all and said so many kind things
Starting point is 00:17:34 and like really kept up with y'all and you know. I mean, they still can say kind things and still support us as we co-parent through this. I mean, Chad is an amazing father and I'm an amazing person. We just didn't work out and that's what it is. I mean, they can still support us and don't have to choose sides
Starting point is 00:17:54 because we didn't, we still support each other at the end of the day. Never mind the fact they don't have to choose sides, but they don't know what happens. Yeah. They don't know what happens. They don't know what happens. They don't know what happens.
Starting point is 00:18:04 No, that's for real. They don't feel what happened. Yeah. Dang. Who's in the side? Well, no, that's for real. They don't feel what happened. I'm like. But it is what it is. I mean, you know, it just sucks. And I feel for Keita in regards to her situation because she's going and having all the public people trying to attack her and come with her.
Starting point is 00:18:23 And extra crazy because she real quiet. She's like, and she really, she gonna do it just like Beyonce. My girl is mom's the word. She ain't gonna say nothing. And I mean, that's it. She gonna let that thing go. And I'll be like, girl. You're made of time.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Damn, because I would have said something to somebody. It's a lot. It's a lot. So I think a lot of people go through this, and even if they're not in high profile relationships, because you still have to think about it, like, just a regular couple, it's still public embarrassment, because you have to go through it with your family, your friends, and everything.
Starting point is 00:19:02 So maybe we can help solve people who are going through this. And some of my questions I have, I know when you went, you have went through a break up with before you and Andre got together and got married when y'all was dating. Do you believe people change after a toxic breakup? I don't know if y'all broke up with toxic. Ours was a little rough. Or do you think they just rebrand themselves
Starting point is 00:19:28 for the next person? Gee, I think that. I think more often than not, people rebrand themselves for the next person. That's what I think. Made for This Mountain is a podcast that exists to empower listeners to rise above their struggles,
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Starting point is 00:20:44 I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her babies. If she is passionate about becoming a mother and she has her eggs frozen and she has her life together, go for it. She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50, Connie?
Starting point is 00:21:02 How long have you guys been together? Yeah, no, 52. 52. 52. I adopted my son as a single mom because I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it.
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Starting point is 00:22:19 Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah. And will I continue growing? Yes. Because I was really in the trenches, Yes. Will I always be me? Yeah. And will I continue growing? Yes. Because I was really in the trenches and I knew my worth and my value as a mom. Come on over to hear their full stories.
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Starting point is 00:23:49 It was awkward. So, won't you, like, listen, I told what, let's be clear, that was not, you know, that was not it. And Chad knows that. Like, you know, we can play some roles, but- First of all, don't play some roles, but... First of all, you can play all day. My biggest thing is... Y'all play all day.
Starting point is 00:24:10 I was really looking at it like, look at these damn fools up here, playing and these people, stop playing and these people fade. Stop it. But, but, um, because of that, you know, trying to be a team player or whatever, I feel like I have to rebrand myself because it made it look like I was just this gold digger, you know, coming for Chad and his money and, you know, trying to take everything. But that's not the case.
Starting point is 00:24:38 So for me, my situation, I have to rebrand myself and just show who... You really think that you have to regret? Like, I just, I don't know, maybe because I just, I know you were in real life, so I just did not take an ounce of it that serious. I'm serious. Like, I just, I didn't even, it took me so long to even watch it because I remember talking to you about it. I remember us getting ready together and then you go, no, I gotta go do this.
Starting point is 00:25:02 And I talked to you after, it just was not a big, it just wasn't a thing. And then I saw that and I was like, they playing. And immediately just... You got my mind. But you actually feel like you have to rebrand. I don't think that you... Yeah, people paint TV to another level. It's not like it used to be for them.
Starting point is 00:25:21 So you rebranding yourself for your next potential mate? I put my next potential mate, no. Because they gon' one day meet and they gon' know that's not your life, that you not about that. You know what I mean? Well, they know this. It's easy to tell you. It's just five minutes with you, and you're like, you're literally the most generous person in the world. I have to tell you all the time, trust up, give me shit.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Stop doing stuff. Relax, girl. Like, you know what I mean? It'd be five minutes somebody's been with you and they know that that's not even what you own at all. But I mean... It's so bad. I got, I almost got stressed out
Starting point is 00:25:58 because I was pulling out my wallet and they went, let me be a man. Not bad. Just let me be a man. Ooh. And you know, let me be a man. Just let me be a man. But I literally got to the start, like chill, like sit back and relax and chill. I don't know what she did.
Starting point is 00:26:17 Like I said, covered, okay? Soft place to land. In totality, you're covered. That's what I wish for you. My next question is, how do you protect your mental health during and after the breakup? Listen, alcohol was a dig at coping, alcohol and traveling were my... Let me tell you, first of all, let me tell you. When Andre and I broke up... for that time... I mean, I was definitely a little mino.
Starting point is 00:26:54 You know what I mean? And I was working in a restaurant at the time, and they gave us free wine. I was just slithered just all the day. Like, I was really in my feelings, fully drinking my feelings. And I did go to church a lot. I went to church a lot. And then I went home and I was on that bottle.
Starting point is 00:27:14 And it took me, my best friend, she used to leave me notes on the fridge, like, it's okay, you're gonna find love again. The sun comes out to our girl. I was so, ooh, I was so pathetic. Ugh, girl, I was a mess. An absolute mess. It was, it was horrendous. It really was. So, but I got over it. It took about six months. I ain't gonna lie. It took about six to eight. It took a a while. Wait, let me see what you're wearing. It took me about three and a half months.
Starting point is 00:27:53 That's it? I'm kidding. I mean, I'm not fully over. I mean, you know, you still have your moment. It's like, damn, like this shit is real. Yeah, but you also not wanting them to sit around and cry anyway. You know I'm a water bag. I will cry like
Starting point is 00:28:08 That so it's it's totally different like, you know I wouldn't expect you to be sitting around and your PJs in the fetal position for six months But I'm oh no, the only time it hits me is when the kids get involved. That's when it's But shit we got our own group chat we planning trips and everything so I mean, it gets me is when the kids get involved. That's when it's like, but shit, we got our own group chat. We planning trips and everything. So it's like, you at the picture, like the kids, they were so sweet. They told me, the oldest one told me,
Starting point is 00:28:35 I don't care what they got going on over there, but we still family. They was talking to like the kids, talking to each other. And I was just, I shared a tear because I was like, I'm lucky I'm like, I'm lucky, I'm like, the bond that they have is just beautiful. And they... We are. I sent out the pictures,
Starting point is 00:28:51 the pictures, anything. Come on, baby. But I can say that when he and I broke up, we didn't have any kids, so it felt very final. It felt very, I'm never going to see this person ever again. And he lived 15 minutes away. And would you believe that for a year and a half, I never saw him anywhere. We lived, he lived in Hollywood, I lived in West Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:29:10 We never saw each other ever, like ever. And that was by design, because the Lord knew if he would have seen me in the streets, bitch, my knees would have buckled. I would have been in shambles. I was a mess. It would have been bad, but it did take a toll on my mental health.
Starting point is 00:29:26 But it was also so necessary. I think that going through that stuff, those emotions, that's just necessary for you just as a woman. I'm sure as a person, I can't really speak for men, but as a woman, you got to go through that stuff because it just adds a different layer to who you are. Like, it just, it changes you. You become so introspective. If you're not introspective and you don't change your mentality after a breakup like that, you know, from a serious relationship, a marriage or whatever, then you just didn't, you didn't do the work.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Like I used to always think it was a red flag where like, I meet a guy and he's talking about his ex or he can take no, no responsibility for what happened in his relationship. Everything is her fault. Everything was, I'm like, damn, he changed you at all? You can't take no credit? You ain't did nothing wrong? Okay. But that's a big red flag. When, when a man is talking or, or even a woman, like, just talking about everything was their fault, their fault, their fault, and there was no accountability on your end, that is a red flag. And the next person should be aware of that.
Starting point is 00:30:32 But you know what they tend to do, the new person, what they tend to do is start hating the ex when they don't even know what the situation is. And it's sad. But I always, when I'm, you know, getting into something or even when I'm getting out of something, I don't speak on my previous relationship. I never speak negative in regards to it. There's nothing that you need to know about what happened with us. But where I was getting at.
Starting point is 00:30:57 But you should, you should pay attention to that. And if somebody comes to me about in regards to what they ex did or why they relationship then last, my question is, what was your problem? What did you do? What was your problem? Exactly. It can't be all the other person. It never is. It never is. But then that's when you know you're dealing with a man child who can't take accountability for anything and who's probably emotionally avoiding because he's just firing off about this woman who's somewhere living her life
Starting point is 00:31:28 That's no, that's true. Yeah, be careful out there friend scammers and rasta pasta That's why I'm just enjoying life I'm not getting into any relationships, you know, I'm just gonna relationships, you know, I'm just gonna Don't just travel regularly travel like this ooh traveling Don't get another passport because I Cannot deal with you humble baddies. Is it I can't deal with your humble baddies, is it? I can't deal with you. I'm kidding right now, let me stop. Okay. Question, have you ever lost yourself in a relationship
Starting point is 00:32:14 and how did you find your way back? Still lost, still fighting it, I'm kidding. No. Yes. Yes, I have. And it's easy to do when you're dealing with somebody who is, um, that has a large presence. A high profile individual. I will say that being a mom, I lost myself in that.
Starting point is 00:32:39 And then I came back and then I lost it again. And then I came back. You know what I mean? Like that, that happened easier than the relationship thing. But I just feel like that's easy to happen, um... with anybody, with any woman, no matter what kind of guy you're dating. It's because we're just like, we're hardwired to get into sacrifice. You know what I mean? Like that's just...
Starting point is 00:33:04 We just always end up on that side up and if you're not careful, you end up giving a little bit too much. It's not like the person is on the receiving end saying, okay, now you're giving me too much, stop, stop. No, they're just... You know, they love it. They want you. They're just taking it. They're just taking it. And women are just their natural, you know, nurturers, natural pleasers.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like, so we end up, you know, doing things that the guy likes, taking on his hobbies, taking on his lingo, you know, dressing a certain way because he thinks he's cute, wearing our hair. Like, it starts like little shit. It'd be like, look, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, and you look at me like, well, damn. Who was this? Who am I? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:33:44 I think it happens. I don't know any woman that it hasn't happened to, honestly. None of my friends. I think it's happened to all of us. It has, and I can say this. I actually had a long call. So one of my, Joanna, you know, she was holding it down for me when I was going through everything and I felt like I lost myself like towards the end of my relationship and then the transition out of it like I Basically shut down when it came to my business and I have so much stuff lined up and it's like
Starting point is 00:34:19 Girl, you were you was that girl before this relationship like snap I'm sure that got there because you got so much. Like God has blessed you with so many opportunities. And it took my two close friends and my business partner to say, listen, we've been holding it down. It's time to get your stuff back together. Like I had accountability partners and I'm truly blessed for my friends, Joanna and Christina, because they pulled me back in like, look what you built.
Starting point is 00:34:46 You had all this before, Chad. Like get yourself together. You have so many people looking up for you. You're a home developer. You about to build town homes. Something that, you know, a lot of women have, are not, you know, into, are not doing. Like so many people look up to you.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Get yourself together and let's get back on it. Yeah, but to be fair, you were in the Ocho bubble. You know what I mean? I was the right old... Ocho bubble, baby, like, Ocho on rail grew up to be a thing. That was a thing, you know what I mean? And when you in the bubble, it's just safe, it's warm, you got snacks, it's nice in the bubble.
Starting point is 00:35:20 You know what I mean? It's comfortable, it's your man. Like, it's... You was in the Ocho bubble, it's okay? It's comfortable. It's your man. Like, it's... You was in the Ultra... It's okay. It's okay. And it's hard to, like, pull out of it and readapt to get your identity back by yourself. I'm not gonna lie. I ain't gonna sit here and say, you know, I was holding it down by myself. When I was comfortable, I was safe.
Starting point is 00:35:42 It was peace during that time. But then when it came to transition now, I didn't get back, it was hard. I had to, my friend, thank God I have great accountability. You had so much to pick up, you know what I mean? It was just like, it almost like it stacked up too much on you. You know what I mean? So, I mean, you had it back.
Starting point is 00:36:04 You doing your thing I'm talking to Joanne and Christina. Yes my girl is talking to me. So the next, did your friend group support your decision to leave or did you feel judged for staying too long? I never feel judged for doing nothing cuz all my homegirls going through the same shit. That's the thing. Like nobody can judge anyone when it comes to a relationship because they go through the same stuff when they're in those shoes.
Starting point is 00:36:37 That's why I understand why people be out here yapping and typing up on Instagram when they out here, oh, he cheated on you. Your man over there cheating right now, and she type. Oh, they did this. In your car, with no money. Like, stop it, cut it out. Because I'm gonna tell you this, I have not, I have not dated a lot of men with money.
Starting point is 00:37:01 I will say, unfortunately, I used to have an affinity for broke niggas. Wait, wait, hold on. I did though. This is true. Not proud of it. But I did. I'm just a love is love. Like you just, you make me happy. This is great. Oh my God. You're jobless. But how, look at how creative you are. Like I was like. What? What? Wait, what? He used to drive your car. Girl, you don't have any of them.
Starting point is 00:37:29 No, listen, Sharrella. You gotta be doing work. Girl, no. The point is, whether they got, whether they coint up, or he worked at the post office, or he work at the Hooters, or the Hertz, or the Enterprise, they gonna do what they can do. You understand what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:37:50 Like, it's not like, this one don't do it more because he has this, and this one don't. No, if it's seeing you do that, if you have no self-control, if you have no discipline, you gonna cheat, and you gonna be raggedy. It really doesn't matter. You know what I mean? So it's just like when they see, you know, women going through things or like, you know, they make assumptions about you and Chad
Starting point is 00:38:10 and make assumptions about Keeta and, and oh wait, I thought he was gonna do this. And he did like, girl, hush. You getting cheated on. And he's dropped. And you, come on now. Like let's, let's keep it cute. So no, I don't ever feel judged by anything.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Because, I mean, the previous relationship, I call it our previous relationship, when it was giving situationship and we were just immature and back and forth and doing all of that mess, like I never felt judged about any of that because I was going through the same stuff everybody else was going through. Just on a different scale. You know, my makeups was a little the same stuff everybody else was going through. Just on a different scale. You know, my makeups was a little bit better than everybody else makeups. You know, I have vacations, but bitch I was still crying. It's still the same.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You was crying in that Bentley. In a race, but yes. There were tears. There were tears. No, yeah, but you know what? That year and a half fixed us right on up. And then y'all beautifully with three beats of baby. Yep, I'm playing them games. I'm getting a little advice for women navigating toxic breakup.
Starting point is 00:39:25 Here's some advice. Don't seek closure from chaos. You may never get the apology, the clarity, or the explanation. Create your own piece. Reclaim your narrative. You are not the worst thing someone did to you. Reframe your story with power and compassion. Let me tell you how bad I am at breakups.
Starting point is 00:39:47 And I'm gonna tell you why I'm bad at breakups. And it could be, I heard this is like a Scorpio trick, but I also, I heard that there are people, when they go through breakups, some of them are just really impatient, and I'm one of those people. Like in my mind, if I want to break up with you, I've already thought about it.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And I guess this is months in the making, I've been like, I cannot deal with this shit. Like you are irking me, bro. Like, I want to break up. By the time I come to you and I tell you I want to break up, it's like news to you, but then if you give me too much, I'm like, oh my God, give me too much, I'm like, oh my God, did you hear me?
Starting point is 00:40:26 I'm done. I just get so impatient and kind of, kind of bitchy and I'm not good at breakups. I'm not good at them. I'm not good at them. I don't think I've, I never had no smooth, amicable, mature girl. All of my breakups was childish. Every last one of them. Hey, my break up was childish too. Tommy!
Starting point is 00:40:52 It was a little childish. I ran, it was a little childish. You have a little internet puzzle. Oh lord. You have more internet, Tessal. Oh, Lord. We gon' get... Made For This Mountain podcast exists to empower listeners to rise above their inner struggles and face the mountain in front of them. So during Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast, focus on your emotional well-being and then climb that mountain. You will never be able to change or grow through the thing that you refuse to identify, the thing that you refuse to say, hey, this is my mountain, this is the struggle.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Listen to Made For This Mountain on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Connie Britton is here. I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her babies. She could be waiting another 10 years before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50 Connie? 52. 52.
Starting point is 00:42:08 I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy. I'm going to meet the guy. I'm going to meet the guy. I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Emily Tish-Suss, host of the podcast, She Pivots. In honor of Mother's Day, we have some very special guests. I'm Elaine Welteroth. And I'm Keelan Murray. Both women pivoted out of their careers after having their kids, proving that motherhood
Starting point is 00:42:40 is just another chapter in our journey, not the end. Come on over to hear their full stories. You can listen to She Pivots on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What happens when we come face to face with death? My truck was blown up by a 20 pound anti-tank mine. My parachute did not deploy. I was kidnapped by a drug cartel.
Starting point is 00:43:04 When we step beyond the edge of what we know. I clinically kidnapped by a drug cartel. When we step beyond the edge of what we know, I clinically died, the heart stopped beating. I was dead for 11.5 minutes. In return, it's a miracle I was brought back. Alive Again, a podcast about the strength of the human spirit. Listen to Alive Again starting May 13th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. You're listening to an iHeart Podcast.

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