Club Shay Shay - Humble Baddies - Part 2: Sugar Daddy Season + Delusional Dating

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Sharelle, Ashley & Alexis discuss the differences between generous lovers and "sugar daddies," give advices to all the delusional daters, and much more!01:38 - Sugar Daddy Season39:00 – Delusional Dating(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ladies, welcome to Sugar Daddy Season. The sun is out, the wallets are open, and the girls are choosing. But let's be clear. I did not know it was the season. Not all sugar is sweet. So tonight we're breaking down the art rules and the red flags of the sugar daddy game. So we're gonna start off with five juicy questions

before we go into sugar daddy season. The first. Okay, okay. What's the difference between a sugar daddy, a trick, and a generous man? I think a sugar daddy is like when you, when a man just really gets off on giving a lady whatever she wants, like money-wise, And she don't have to do anything. Right.

That's a generous man. No, I disagree. To me, that's... I feel like it's an older gentleman with a younger lady, or since we're talking about shaded daddies. And he just appreciates her company. They have the funds. Correct. So they just, whatever you company. They have the funds. Correct.

So they just, whatever you need. That's what I think that is. Whatever you need sweetheart. That is, you're gonna want something in return. It can be a long-term relationship, but all my friends who I know who have a sugar daddy. It can be a date. All my friends who know who have a sugar daddy,

they're giving things in exchange for either companionship or some type of loving, whether it's being correct. Yeah, companionship. Companionship or whether it's being caressed or, you know, making sure he's good for the night, for the week, for the month. You never know, making sure whatever it is he got going on. That's called prostitution.

I was still thinking that. I was like, is he a John? No, no, because they both are in agreeance and they both are benefiting from it. Okay. That's called prostitution. So to me, a trick, so the trick, like, even if you tricking, that is more to me, like, yeah, I'm gonna give you this.

I'm gonna give you the money and I'm gonna give you some love and back. That's that's tricking. And what you talking about, Sherelle? Oh, I should get after I feel like I know people who have sugar daddy. Well, yeah. And they have like the whole sugar sugar babies website and stuff where they literally are just like talking on the phone to them or like it's really like a companion that has a lot of money and just will send you money, you know. Constitution is with different you have different but when you have a sugar daddy somebody that you're building a relationship with that you're either a change for it's just like having a boyfriend or whatever. They're taking care of you.

You're doing things. That's generous. No, no, generous is somebody that just wants to give. But if y'all both are in exchange for something and he's an only guy like transaction. Yes. Oh, I think that dark. Go ahead. Let me know.

So, yeah, I later. So yeah. I can still hear you though. No. Maybe, maybe Sugar Daddy's and Tricken is two of the same. It's just Sugar Daddy is like usually a older gentleman, maybe. And again, that companionship that time spent, and it might not be as much as an exchange of fluids or whatever the case may be.

So me tricking is like, you know, almost saying I'm gonna like give you this money for you, it's transactional, like for you to come and do something for me or for you to show up, for you to be here, for you to like, it's more of a control thing. I feel like sugar daddy situation is more like the lady is saying, you know,

I need this taken care of, you know? And he's like, all right, cool, whatever, I got you. Now, generous is the man who doesn't, is not asking for nothing in return. He is literally being generous. Not giving you... Yeah. And not asking for anything in return. being generous, giving you, yeah. And not asking for anything in return.

That's what I think that's my definition. Those are how I break down the three. Because I would date a generous man, I would not date a sugar daddy, and I would not date a truck. Go get you a sugar daddy, just try it one time, and see. You might like it. Lance. No.

Just one time. Just for my energy, I don't even give off my age, you know what I'm saying? Like, one. Two, just, I couldn't fix my face, nor my time away from, like, my kids and just my, what, my friends, things I wanna do, I would never do that. And three...

What's wrong with it? Yeah, no, I don't need a sugar daddy. I don't want one either. What's wrong with having a sugar daddy? Now, generous man is different. I'm pretty, if you ain't got no man. No, I don't wanna be, I don't want to be... I don't want to fake it. No, it's not faking. It's nothing to fake.

I don't want to fake being around someone to get a check. Like, to me, that's just a waste of time. Well, you don't gotta fake. They like you for you being you. You don't have to fake anything. I'm still gonna have to go to dinner? I'm gonna still have to show up somewhere. I'm gonna still have to do... It's whatever you want it to be.

I think, I feel like it's whatever you want it to be. You don't have to fake or whatever, anything. I think it's just whatever the relationship is just... I don't need my time paper. ...not you necessarily. Mm-mm. You know, not every dollar, you know, it's not, it's not worth it for me. It's really not worth it for me to be, again, generous.

What about you, Sheryl? Would you date a sugar daddy? Or I don't know, is it dating or are you just like, what do you call that? I would have a sugar daddy. I mean, I would have a sugar daddy. I'm be honest. I would have a sugar daddy. I'm be honest. I would have one before, but I mean, I would be open to, I'm single. I would be open to having a sugar daddy.

I find sugar daddy though. And what would that age range be when you say sugar daddy? Would he be in your age range or would he be older? You know, 50? I think sugar daddy though doesn't fly like an older man though. That's what I feel. It is. He has to be older. So like 50, 55. I'm saying older than that. I feel like sugar daddy is way older than that.

What, sugar daddy's what, 60? Yeah, because I mean, I still date in my age range of 10 years. I won't go higher. And that's 50s. 55 for me. I would consider Sugar Daddy 55 and older. For you. Yeah, and they call Cougars in the age limit, but Cougars, there's age categories.

I'm a Cougar auntie, I did see that. I'm like, I feel disrespected. We are cougar utsies. Y'all be getting up there. Honestly, we are getting up there, loyalties. I actually had this conversation with a raid. Ashkenar are still a cougars. Yeah, y'all still cougars. I'm a cougar auntie.

I will be a half a century in eight years. I don't want nobody to call me no auntie yet. What? I don't want nobody a cougar auntie. Yeah, the cougar auntie. I will be a half a century in eight years. I don't want nobody to call me no auntie yet. Mm-hmm. They will. Am I get... I want to be big sis. Can I be big sis? Yeah, you're a sis right now. Yeah, yeah. I'm big sis. I ain't auntie yet.

I got... I still got a couple of big sis. I'm big sis when I'm not interested. I'm like, hey, hey, what's up, brother? You know, when you call him brother, like, hey, what's up? Then we not, we just gonna be, you know, homies. Yeah. Well, I don't know. I feel like there is definitely a difference

between a sugar daddy and a trick. And I feel like the tricks are like, it's very like, you know, for sure, you giving up the puss. Very transact. You know what I'm saying? I feel like with sugar daddies, it could be... Whatever y'all are pre-appointed. Yes, it could be time.

It could be just... Yeah. Look at your toes. He might, you know... Just want to go on a date. Yeah, he might just want to go to the movies. He might just need a companion. Like, he might just want you to go to church with him.

Like, you just never know, because men and they will wear fetishes or whatever. I feel like Sugar Daddy's is kind of a more broader, you know, situation. Whereas Trick for sure is... y'all gonna be. You know what I'm saying? But, um, and then a generous man, we were saying,

is just a man who doesn't expect to receive something back. He's just a natural giver because that's what he wants to do. And it makes him feel good to make you feel good in that way. If y'all want to help us sugar daddy, what's the bare minimum a sugar daddy should be providing in 2025? Ooh. You talking, we talking for the masses or we talking for us? Because, I mean...

So, I can't speak on it. Hair, nails, lunch, dinner. I have to go. No, no, no. I'm trying to think of the masses. I'm trying to think of average. If you're entertaining a man and he's your sugar daddy, he needs to be...

You said the masses, guys. It doesn't matter. It can be rent. You can do your hair. Yeah, it's it got to be something like the bills. You're having a sugar daddy for it. I mean, I can do my hair and nails and that, but the bare minimum for sugar daddy. And I think this trips to Dubai on the yachts, but you don't see him in the

pictures type of thing, right? It's about what the Sugar Daddy's be doing. You said, y'all said for the mass, okay. It doesn't matter for the masses, let's, we're not going 20's. If I had a Sugar Daddy, I got taxes, you know, there's taxes, there's, you know, vehicles. Let me tell you, you never had a sugar daddy before because you talk about some hair nails at lunch. What?

I brought it down as far as, you know... Oh. Other, everybody wants, like, you know, their mortgage pay or their, like, something that's gonna make a difference. You know what I'm saying? Get your hair done and lunch is not all good. The whole day. I'm gonna waste my time having a spa day.

No. No. Y'all send a message. No, spa day is like sugar daddy. No, that's like a piece of candy daddy. No, that's a generous man looking at spa day. Yeah, I don't even know. Sugar daddy is paying them the mortgage, the car note, and ain't no typical car note.

I mean, we talking about you in a luxury vehicle. A luxury vehicle. Sure. Your daddy is paying for you and your homegirls to go to Europe for the summer. Yeah. That is not for the masses, y'all. This is not in the Wimbledon. That is for the masses. What doall. This is not in my blue. That is for the masses.

What do you mean? If you're a sugar daddy, let's know. A sugar daddy can't just be given $5 here and there. That's not a sugar daddy. You wasting your time for having a sugar daddy. The whole meaning of a sugar daddy is to take you to another. That means make out money to spend. I was going to the mat, the mat and get your boss off this.

The your mindset. And what is this? What is this? I asked for anyone, anyone who have a sugar daddy. The main reason why they have a sugar daddy is to they don't have to do certain things. To enhance their lifestyle. Yeah.

And my lifestyle is taking me on trip, taking me on trips on a private jet. Like doing stuff you can't afford. Okay. Well, I don't, you, we would do. No, it's for anybody who have a sugar daddy. All right. We got it. We got it. We will have a sugar daddy. All right.

We got to get the PJ. That's normal. Book the yacht for the day. That's normal. Sugar daddy. Sugar daddy. Okay. We got to find Alexis the sugar daddy. We don't.

We don't find your sugar daddy. So you can. I'm going to, I'm going to make you a Alexis' sugar daddy. No, we don't. Yeah, we don't find your sugar daddy. So you can... I'm gonna make you a profile on sugarbabies.com. No, please don't. I mean... I'm gonna make you one. Y'all funny. Yeah, we all need to experience.

30K for some toe, some to pick my toenail polish. That's my going rate. Okay. You got a man that'll pay that. Mm-hmm. Men are nasty. They will pay for anything, honey. It's men that will pay you... Get a cream on your toes and rub them together.

Put chocolate on your toes and... You know, like there's websites where you can send in your dirty drawers. You know? And you can nail them websites where you can send in your dirty draws, you know You can nail that they sometimes you can nail them Something that's nasty, but they pay for it. I mean if somebody said they gonna send me a hundred K for my my panty Overnight, first overnight? Express delivery. I mean, I'm with it. And you want that, OK?

You want me to put some chocolate on these toes? Alright, I got a question. So is it ever emotional or is the game always transactional? It depends. It depends on the relationship because some people can come in as transactional, but the longer they, they, I know someone from example, someone used to have like, I wouldn't say a sugar daddy because he wasn't at the age of a sugar daddy, but they were never together and he would take care of everything. Who I know he's talking about.

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["I'm Not a Man," by A'Henry and the Bunchees plays in background.] or wherever you get your podcast. But now it's like emotions are involved. So it's like it can transition to that. So you never want... From time being spent and energy and all of that. No sugar daddy could burn and sing on that? Well, The sugar daddy could farm into your neck. Exactly. Oh, it's possible.

You never know. Don't knock it out. Like, I prefer generous. I mean, I could have a little generous. I could have a little sugar daddy. I can weigh out my options. So would y'all be jealous if your sugar daddy had other sugar babies? No, it would just take more money from us. Only one we have other sugar.

You're like, my feet went up. I need my feet went up. I need more money. I need to invest in this business. I don't think it's a jealous thing just because as long as they's doing what they, you know, what y'all agreed upon, you know, just whatever, if he has it like that, what do they say? It ain't tricking if you got it. I don't even know.

I don't know. I probably, I don't care because Cause I ain't get emotionally attached. Just give me my funds. It's transactional. Yeah. Cause like, what if you have a guy and he like does the exact same thing for you that he does for another girl. Like you good with that?

If you have other women, I need to be at the top of the chain. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Sugar daddy. I need to be at the top of the chain. Okay.

So how do you spot a fake baller or someone trying to finesse the finesse? Oh, I know some fake ballers. Hmm. They all, they, I'm some fake ballers. Hmm. They always... They show it. They show it. They show it. They talk about it.

They always surround people with clout, but they're never doing anything on their own. They always... They drop. Like, talking about somebody else. What are you doing? They always say they got this and they got that, but you never see it.

Yeah. It's like, what do you do? Yeah, it's always the ones for me that, like, are in a section. It's like 20 guys all in one section. Ugh, I don't like that. Like, first of all, the section ain't that much. It's 20 of y'all and y'all got two bottles. Shit.

And all y'all acting like y'all the men. And no ladies. No, and no ladies. Exactly. That's not cool. That's a dead giveaway. Yeah, it is. Ladies, y'all go to the club and there's a man in the section. He like trying to holla at you and it's like 20 of them in there.

He don't talk to him. He's not a baller. He's not a baller. Mm-mm. No. I don't think so. That's the first. I just feel like it's too like... He's not a baller. He's not a baller.

I don't think so. That's the easy way to spot him. Or, you know, the one in the passenger side. Might not be a bottler. Like a starter kit. Like you have the watch, you got the this, you got the, you know, you got the stack and you want it, you know. You know, it's just very much cookie cutter.

Nothing special. You know what I mean? That's what you can spam. I think it's a difference. What's the difference? Spoiled is basically saying, this is my level, this is what I expect, and if you don't meet me at this expectation, I'm going to whine about it, bitch about it, complain about it, nag about it, and let you know until I get my way. And then someone giving you what you wanted because of, you know, the effect of them saying no first and then saying yes afterwards, that's spoiled.

Being kept is taken care of. Being kept is like, okay, this is the standard, this is what's expected, this is consistent, this is what I feel like I'm gonna do to take care of you. Not the sense of entitlement. It's almost a sense of relaxation and discomfort. That's the thing. I say being kept can lead to dancepool.

Yeah. Because you're setting a standard for something that you're not used to and that basically someone set a standard and that's what you're used to. So you get into something else or they can't do it anymore. Now it's like, this is what I'm used to. This is what I expect this is. And then you start nagging about it because you're not getting it anymore.

Interesting. So would you want to be spoiled or would you want to be kept? Or neither. Or both you want to be kept? Or neither. Or both. I want to be kept. Well, I mean both. Spoiled and kept. I mean, it falls in the same.

That's why I would say both. Like, if you say you're in a relationship or something and you just like, you know, being kept in a relationship is a different thing to me. You know, like, hey, these are your expenses, I'm gonna relieve this stress from you, I got you. You know, but the spoil part is like, you know, when you go shopping or she spoils, she likes this. You know, I know what she likes, I know what she's into.

So, you know, it's a fine line of that. I think it's when you start to just become, like, ungrateful for it or just, like, entitled, like know, it's a fine line of that. Um, I think it's when you start to just become, like, ungrateful for it or just, like, entitled, like, expecting it. That's when you can kind of, you know, teeter-tatter the line. But I think it's, you want to be spoiled by someone that you're in a relationship with or that you like, as well as being kept by them if they can do that.

You know, I could do both. Yeah. Like, spoiled me, baby. Like... Exactly. Like... Mm-hmm, exactly. Like, someone's traveling and they're like, oh, she likes this, you know? Yeah, bring that on home. Surprise me.

You know what I mean? I love that. That's just the time. You can get treated how you want to, baby. Just take care of me. Mm-hmm. The sky's the limit. So, um, so then, like, if you got to, baby, just take care of me. Mm-hmm. The sky's the limit. So, um, so then, like, if you got a sugar daddy. Well, no, I guess you don't have to, like, do anything back if it's a sugar daddy.

But I was just thinking, like, ask the question. They spoil you. Ask the question. No, we can move on, because I think I answered my own question in my head. Yeah. All right. Let's move on to our first scenario. Flight risk. So I met this man at a lounge in Miami. He's 47, salt and pepper beard,

owns a couple car dealerships. First date, he drives me to Atlanta for dinner. I'm thinking I hit the jackpot. By the third trip, he's telling me he wants to invest in my dreams, but I tell him I want to start a business and he ghosts me. Was I moving too fast or was he never a real sugar daddy to begin with? When she started talking big, big cash money thing.

I feel like that's more normal than we give off just because, you know, some people will talk a big game just to get you there and will fly you out. They can afford that. They can handle that. But when they know you about your business and you're like, look, my time is taking me, if I'm here, it's taking me away from X, Y, and Z. Or what attracted you to me in the first place is I am a businesswoman.

I'm going to go get her. So if you don't see the vision, that lets you know that he's not into it like that. He's more, it's more like this could be temporary. This is, this is very much like in and out. He's dating other women. He's spying them in and out. It's not a big deal when you got to invest in someone. And I'm talking about a business.

Usually we talk about six, six figures, you know, and up. And that's a big deal. That's a commitment and that's an investment. So that lets me know you're not really invested in me, you know, if we're going to be talking these numbers, if we're going to be talking like this. And I think that comes with time too, just like, you know, getting to know someone, understanding who they are. And low key, if you're a business person, you want to know where your return is coming into also, if that's the case, you know. So I just think, you know, with investing, especially like that,

with depending on someone, he's not really serious. This is very much just like, I flew you out, you got flew down, we had a good time, but then you started getting a little serious with me. Then let me fall back. You know, that's why he ghosted. Oh girl, just because. I, just because he's not serious. I wouldn't say he's not serious. I would just say maybe he's not ready for all that yet.

Maybe, you know, he wants to take it slow and he feels like she's moving too fast. I mean, it's OK for a woman to go, and when they feel like the man is moving too fast, so why can't he feel like the man is moving too fast. So why can't he feel like, okay, maybe let me pull back. So I don't. Well, the thing is her response was,

was he never a real sugar daddy? And my thing is what made you think he was a sugar daddy just because he flew you out to Atlanta and y'all went to dinner like that. That ain't giving sugar daddy vibes. Yeah, so that was her mistake, Boo Boo. Like, that shouldn't have never given you... I should have hit the jackpot.

I thought I hit the jackpot. Girl, a flight on a plane ain't nothing to Atlanta. Was it the third date or something she was talking about investing? The first date she got flew out to Atlanta. You didn't get flew out to Green Sheet. And then she asked for it, she's asking for investing what? The second or third time?

She wanted to invest in her dreams. Mm-mm. That's not a sugar daddy. That's not giving that. Yeah, see, if you gonna be out here looking for a sugar daddy, not that I know, but I'm just saying, if you gonna be out here looking for a sugar daddy, boo-boo, getting flew out to Atlanta don't give sugar daddy, not that I know, but I'm just saying, if you're going to be out here and looking for a sugar daddy, boo boo, getting flew out to Atlanta, don't give sugar daddy vibes. Okay. He just was finding you out, you know what I'm saying, fill you out, really.

Because come on, that's it. So that was your mistake thinking he was a sugar daddy. So you need to go to the bathroom room and figure out what you're looking for. Like, are you looking for somebody to be a sugar daddy? Or are you interested in somebody who's going to be interested in getting to know you? Because maybe that's what he was trying to do. And you came off acting like a sugar baby. And he like, I think I might hit the jackpot. Yeah.

I feel like they really do be misjudging men sometimes when like a man actually goes out of their way to show interest. Like sometimes I feel like women misinterpret situations because I feel like, you know, you're supposed to handle people accordingly. You can't handle everybody the same. So like if a man is genuinely, trying to get to know you, he flies you to Atlanta, he wants to spend time with you, like, I feel like that feels different

than somebody that's trying to trick off on you or somebody that's trying to be a sugar daddy. You know what I'm saying? You gotta, like, read the room. You can't just be out here like... Yeah, it becomes traumatic for the woman. I feel like a lot of... Yeah, unless you're on thenational. I'm not expecting that.

Unless you're on the website. I feel like a lot of y'all read the room. Yeah, read the room, boo boo kitty. All right. I agree. Next one, y'all. The emotional sponsor. I've been talking to this guy for six months.

He pays my rent, sends me random cash apps, and even bought my mom a birthday gift. Aw. But now he's catching feelings, wanting to do FaceTime dates, meet my friends, talk about us. And I'm not into him like that, but he's paying for everything. Am I wrong for staying in it? That's a cool question. You gotta ask yourself, honey, can you?

Mm-hmm. You got, only you know that you can say it and give So, I mean if it's gonna affect you He wants something in return then yes your home because he's doing all this going up above and beyond for you your mom your friend and You can't give him a little, you know, a little. I know she now he want to do a space time date and stuff like that. I mean, see, this is when women been getting it.

Oh, like, come on. He's probably a nice guy. He don't buy your mama a gift. Are you ready to just be like, I don't like him like that. Like, yeah, like, girl, I don't know what's wrong with y'all sometimes. Y'all be getting on my nerves, for real. But then they got little, you know, both little Ray Ray on the side who can't call, he don't answer the phone.

He don't even know what your mama name is. I'm in your car around. I'm in your car. In the car house. Yes, girl. Eating your car. And at your house. Yes. Eating your food. Exactly. Playing the game all day

and paying no attention. Mm-hmm. But you got the nerve to not like this guy. Mm-hmm. I don't know. Some of y'all just got it backward. All right. We don't know. Some of y'all just got it backward. All right. We got a bonus. You just met a guy, right? And he offers you, I don't know, Lex, what's, what do you want? A trip? You want some money? What is it?

Yeah, I like trips. Let's say trips. Yeah. Okay. He offers you a summer traveling from Europe to Africa, wherever you want to go. He offering you wherever you want to go. And he's sending you his Amex login. Which one would you say? He offer you a trip to Dubai. He give you five hours for lunch lunch. Thank you his a neck Wait, say that again. It was how much for lunch father for lunch

Or which no, okay. No 5,000 let's say five thousand thousand for a trip forever all over Or his Amex login all over or his Amex login? Which one you take the Amex login to like be able to make purchases? No, he made him give me an offer to make you an authorized user. Because you can't. Oh, yeah. Let me just go and get it. Go and give me the black card.

I can't do nothing with that. But see what you spend in. Yeah, I was going to say, I can't do nothing with the log in. I was like, if I'm an authorized user, I got a card logged in. Make that titanium this way. No, I'll authorize you to do that black card, baby. That's what I'll take.

Yeah, that's it. I'll take that. And book my own trip. All right. Because it's authorized. I can pay for my own life. He authorized it. He's like, baby, this your limit? I will go to the limit.

OK. So, yes. All right. All right. Oh, now that we're talking about the sugar daddy role, would you reconsider having a sugar daddy? No. I already made your profile. I'm looking for a generous man. How about that?

Okay. The one that I like and that likes me. You know, and that is generous. That's what it's out there in the universe. You made her out to like your shit your day. No, are you waiting day? Because it's already transactional before. I'm just that space right now in that everything is trans.

I'm just an attention on space. Let's be realistic. All jokes. The product is so everything. Every relationship is transaction. Whether you like it or not. I disagree. I think I disagree with that. It's the truth. Every relationship is transactional. What's the meaning of transactional? Whether it's emotional, whether it's physical, whether it's spiritual, whether it's time.

What do you mean, like all of that? No. Every relationship? Yes. And what do you mean like all of that? No, every relationship. Yes. Hold on, let me give you the definition of trans-action. Even friendships? Or relationships. Relationships.

Or interaction between people. Yes. Everything is straight action and you want something in return. Yeah, I think so. I agree with that. Okay. I agree. But I don't know.

I feel like we can fire a little sugar daddy. Let me see. Yeah, let me see. Ashley said she's going to make me a profile. It's already made. Dianne, sugarbabies.com. That's such a thing as sugarbabies.com. That's what I heard. I'm sure it is. That's what I heard. I'm sure it is.

That's what I heard. I'm sure it is. Right fine. You know exactly what you're getting into. Do they, I wonder if they put on their, this is the level of what I expect. I don't know. We're going to find out. Don't worry.

We're going to find out. Let's. You're gonna find out. Don't worry. We're gonna find out. Let's do the single one. Let's. You know why? Oh, I am. I'm the only one. I didn't say I wasn't. I'm the only one. I'm dating. And so you can't have a sugar daddy right now? I don't need a sugar daddy. Okay. But could you have one was my question. I mean, if I wasn't in the situation that I was in with who I was in, then I mean, I wouldn't mind if I needed a sugar daddy.

But the way, you know. I don't know. I was just like, wow. So can you have a sugar daddy, but the way, you know, I don't know. It's just like, wow. So can you have a sugar daddy right now or not? I don't need one. Can I make you a profile? Can I make you a profile right now? I love how Sherelle was sitting on me and then in back petals.

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What does being optimistic and dating turn into full-blown delusion? When does being optimistic and dating turn into full-blown delusion? Hmm. Listen, I ain't gonna lie, sometimes I look at these women and they are real delusional and I just be like... That must be lovely to be that delusional. Because they just be seeing me so... Like ignorant?

Yeah, I'm just like, damn, I wish I could be that damn delusional sometimes. Because girl, what the hell? What the hell, Lee? What the hell, Lee? They just be, hello, are you here? Are you in the room with us? Like, he's clearly, like, not the one.

Like, you know what I mean? I have, I think some women are choosing to be that delusional. I was gonna say that. I have some del think some women are choosing to be that delusional. I was gonna say that. I have some delusional friends. You can literally see that this man ain't gonna change and he's, it's just, he's gonna marry you, sis. Shit, I was delusional at one point.

Yeah. I mean, I feel like everybody goes through that. I am very guilty of it. Like, he ain't never delus that. I am very guilty of it. Like, I never do. We enjoy being optimistic, though. You know, you want to go into it with optimism, but then if there's flags and then there's certain scenarios and it becomes a pattern of some certain, you know,

things that you're not gonna tolerate or don't want to or makes you feel some kind of way, then definitely that's delusion. You're definitely delusional. Maybe. Yeah. Once you start getting, once you're in, you know, a pattern of a delusion where it's harmful and abusive and just not a good situation, lopsided everything, then

obviously like you need help. You know what I'm saying? But if you're in a place where it's like, you're delusional, like, I don't know, like, your man, like, you take care of your man or something and you're just a girl who's always like, he's gonna make it, you know, and he's not doing anything to change his situation,

like, financially, but you've just said he's paying the bills and I'm gonna support him, and, you know, to me... I don't know, like, sis, but, hey, if you like it, I love it. You know what I'm saying? But that's a delusional type of situation that I'm talking about. It's like... You know, it's not necessarily unhealthy, but it's definitely... Can't get unhealthy.

Oh, you know what I mean? A delusion I don't witness is women, other people tell them something and they just, no, I know he wouldn't do that. He, I'm this, he that, and I just know him. This, the man was just outside, they got pictures. You showing them pictures, everything. The other person talking to him. Receipts's receipts, the receipts are there.

And you still just know, I just know he, he tell you one thing. You just believe it. I think I've seen all the receipts. That's sick. That's it. You need help. But maybe that's the way they survive. You know, maybe it's a survival tactic.

You know, some women just, you know, and also we don't know what be going on at home behind closed doors. So maybe for them, that's how they are able to get through life is by living in this delusional state and that's how they make it. Because I don't know a reason why, you know, you would really just choose to live in a fantasy land. Some people do live in that, that ignorance is bliss, you know, they'd rather just not know or, you know, live in that just space of comfort, you know, they'd rather just not know or, you know, live in that just space of comfort.

You know? Yeah. Is it okay to stay in Lulu if it's keeping you hopeful and happy? How does it keep me? I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll definitely give myself a time limit. You gotta definitely give yourself a time limit. I mean, you know, it's good to be optimistic and hopeful. But like I said, when it gets to where, like, it's an unhealthy pattern and, you know, it's not progressive, It's just not a good situation. That's when I think it becomes a problem, you know?

Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know. Okay, let's go into our little scenarios. Soft lunch fantasy. I went on 30 dates with this guy. Three, I posted a soft lunch pic of our hands at dinner. He didn't repost it. I got mad. Girl, you crazy.

My girl said all of the... Yeah, that was... But I already picked out what we were wearing for our first vacation. In my mind, it was already giving power couples. Was I being delusional or just excited? Mm, delusional. Delusional and overexcited.

Slow down. Getting mad, getting mad that he didn't repost the hand is crazy. We don't need to be doing that. I'm just getting a little excited. Delulu probably is excited. The Lulu probably is excited. She claiming him like full blown after that or something. I don't know.

And then picking out vacation posts already. And matching vacation outfits. I thought she was kind of... The relationship is for the grand and for her. That post is for her. I feel like she's trying to prove a point. To everyone. Yeah. Sis, focus on you.

Focus on you and what y'all got. Get everyone else. Yeah, she might be a little deluded. He didn't take our journal. So this guy didn't text our journal. So this guy didn't text me back for three days. Instead of blocking him, I convinced myself he was just emotionally overwhelmed

by how real our connection was. I even journaled... No, I'm getting told to listen. Journaled about how I helped him open up. Then I saw him at brunch with his girlfriend. The worst part, I still felt like we had something special. Mm. Pollution, the lulu.

Yeah. Yeah, no. First of all, after three days of him not texting, like, they had time together, whatever. Okay, that's okay to have a little, you know, a little hesitation and trying to see, making sure someone is not, like, obviously ghosting any dead. But he made a choice. Obviously he's either with this lady and you were just on the side, or he chose her and not you. We have to normalize, like, people.

We don't really know people until we are really committed to them and we're really trying to live with them and learn them and understand who they are. Like, that was just very much, um, you know, she just got into her head a lot quicker than she should've. Yeah, you know. How just got into her head a lot quicker than she should have. Yeah, you know. How could you help? Because I have some friends that are just delusional.

What are ways to help get through that? Because sometimes I feel like that can affect your friendship. Well, if they ask me a question, Sometimes I feel like that can affect your friendship. Well, if they ask me a question, I'm gonna give them the real undilusional answer. Correct. If they don't ask me... Yeah, I don't care.

Yeah. I'm just gonna mind my business. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna let you be. Yeah. Unless it affects me, I'm gonna let you live in your little delusional world. Now, if it gets to a point where I feel like it's hurting you, and as a friend, I can't, you know, sit back and not say anything,

then of course, I feel like I would say something. But ultimately, they're grown, especially if it's like has to do with men. I don't know. I feel like... They're gonna do what they wanna do anyway. Yeah. So I'm gonna just say how I feel about him and then leave it at that.

How do you deal with someone that continues to bring up situations and it's like, you get tired of it, but they're your friend and it's like, okay, I don't wanna hear nothing else. Like, do you feel... I would say it. I'd say that. I'd be like, girl, I done already told you 10 times.

He ain't the one. You crazy as hell if he is. And I don't want to talk about it no more. And we have to, again, normalize listening to our people and listening to them. Listen to what they have to say. You don't necessarily have to hear them. Just listen and understand where they're coming from. And not understanding that it's not a personal attack, it's an observation. And they're looking out for you.

It's not like, that's what I think we have to understand. When our friends are telling us something, that means they see something we don't. And they know us longer, they know us. So I would listen to it. That's true. Well, I have some friends and I'm gonna have to have a talk with them.

Yeah, and you should. Because it's definitely giving off the lute. But you ain't told them already, one time? You can't do it. You can't tell them. You just meant too hard, they tell them. I had... You can't do it. You can't tell them. You've just been too hard. They tell them. I should. I had to change the subject.

Like, or be like, oh, girl, let me call you back. And never call back. Because you already know what it is. Oh, let me take this call. Oh, this is a business call. I call you back. See, I feel like I'm the type of person that I have to hold back what I truly think and feel about situations.

So I never am in that. Like, I'm always pretty upfront. Like, as soon as I see something a little off, I'm like, ooh, girl, I don't know about that one. You know what I'm saying? And so if they don't listen or... And also, I'm not just... I'm gonna say this to a friend that I feel like is receptive to...

Of course. ...my advice and how I give advice or whatever. I'm not the, like, I'm kind of, I'm gonna say this to a friend that I feel like is receptive to my advice and how I give advice or whatever. I'm not the, like, I'm kind of, I'm a little brutally honest sometimes. I know that. So I don't just do it to everybody. But if somebody I'm close enough with that I know I can, like, share my true feelings about them and I feel like they're a little delulu in this situation, I would say it up front. And then if I've said it like once or twice,

and it seems like they're not being receptive to that, that's when I'm like, oh, okay, girl, you just gotta keep it to yourself and just let them go through that. Because clearly, I'm... And when I say I'm brutally honest, like, I'm just gonna say it like, girl, no, like, he's not the one, something is wrong.

You know, I'm gonna say it, you know what I mean? So if they don't listen, like, the first couple the one, something is wrong. You know, I'm gonna say it, you know what I mean? So if they don't listen like the first couple times, then I ain't saying nothing else. That's just how I am with this situation. I agree with that. But help your friends if you can. Yeah. But sometimes dilute, I feel like when people are delusional,

it really is like, they have to see it for themselves. They have to get to a point of understanding and realization and reality. That's true. That's definitely true. Well, we hope we answered some of y'all questions. If y'all are like me and y'all have some Dululu friends, you know, Ashley and Liz gave some great advice on how to deal with them and snap them back into reality because we all have been there.

Some have not overcame their Dululu stage and some have, but if you have a friend that's going through that Dululu stage, help a sis out, help a brother out. Cause it's not... Give him a little nudge. A man too. Give him a little nudge. out. Because it's not just a man too. Give him a little nudge. Let him know what's up. Right. Yeah. And don't take offense to him.

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