Club Shay Shay - Humble Baddies - The Truth about men & broken heart syndrome, & is sleeping naked healthy?!
Episode Date: May 22, 2025Sharelle & Ashley react to Real Estate baddies, more black and brown women are buying homes, the truth about men and broken heart syndrome, & is sleeping naked healthy for you, we dive into it... all and much more!01:38 - Intro06:21 - Real Estate Baddies25:46 - Broken Heart Syndrome39:34 - Is Sleeping Naked A Health Hack?45:35 - Humble Baddies Mailbag(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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She is very expensive-ish, and, you know, it...
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So what are we talking about today?
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What's going on?
Today we're going to get into it.
And you know, this is a topic that we can relate to, not only us being black women and homeowners, but also us helping
homeowners, especially black women, purchase homes.
So the first topic today is real estate baddies.
Why more black and brown women are buying?
And then black women are the fastest growing group of entrepreneurs, but where's the funding?
So together, this becomes a powerful, relevant, and juicy conversation about wealth building,
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So that has been a big thing.
I experienced a lot of, you know, minority women purchasing.
But go ahead.
I'm about to say most of my clients, I want to say most of my clients
have been Black women.
Like, honestly, truly, they have been holding me up in the real estate game.
So I mean, absolutely, this is definitely hitting home for me.
And I honestly, I don't know why I didn't really realize that
until literally you just said that.
I'm like, damn, you right.
The black women is out here buying the houses.
These are my clients.
These are the women I'm working with every day.
Like, this is true.
It's a lot. Like, I'm part of a few groups,
and I spoke with a few groups of women where
it's like black women in real estate. And it's basically, it's a group of powerful women
that are teaching more women who are entrepreneurs how to invest their money, because it's not
given. Like, if you don't come together and speak about it, you won't know. So that's
a good thing. I mean, it's a group. they teach how to invest overseas, how to invest here, how to become developers, how to be GCs, and
just how to recycle your money. So it's amazing. The only hard thing about it with some women
is the funding. And it's not just with women, it's just minorities. I know there was a big thing with Navy federal in regards to the loans and not
allowing minorities to get qualified. They would have better credit scores and they would
just get denied. So it's like a lot of, they are starting to crack down on it, but it's
still going to take a lot of time for, you know, us to be on that same page.
Equal.
I remember that story not too long ago about the family who was trying to sell
their home, I believe, and the appraisers, they appraised it for a lower number.
And then when they, I guess, took their like family photos and stuff out of
their appraiser, you know, took their like family photos and stuff out of there, appraiser,
you know, for a higher number.
So I mean, all across the board, when it just comes to getting, you know, what we're worth,
what our homes are worth, what our properties are worth, you know, getting the funding,
you know, we're still not getting treated equally here in the housing market.
And it's really sad to see because, you know, black women for sure are out here getting it.
I just went to my mom's graduation.
She just got her doctoral degree.
And it was nothing but black women.
Like black women are out here.
They're getting their degrees.
They're getting the jobs.
You know, they're out here hustling and investing.
And so, you know, I think the banks are behind,
you know, the banks, all these institutions,
they are really behind on the curve.
And I mean, I guess it's on purpose.
But I mean, you know, we have to figure out a way we have to start, you know, using black
businesses, you know, yeah, and sharing the information so that, you know, we can progress
in this, in this, in this industry.
Yeah, as far as sharing the information, that's where I say it's so good that we come
together and, and collab and speak on what we're doing.
I know with me, I noticed, um, there was, there was not one.
It probably was maybe a handful of black women who are developers in the
government contracting that, that falls up under building VA hospitals
and everything.
So you know what I did?
I took advantage of it and I went to conferences.
I started doing my research.
Now I'm in the runnings to potentially be awarded to build three hospitals in the state
of Florida.
That would be amazing.
That would be amazing.
That would be a record that's being broke.
So I do my research and I learn,
and I'm not a gatekeeper.
I open up and I talk to people and I tell people about it.
And I want more, especially minority women,
to know that there's so many resources out here for us.
There's so many certifications that we have that are set aside for us that'll take us to that next level,
but we have to get out, continue to get out here and learn and know more about it.
Absolutely. And you do really well with that, I think, just getting women together,
putting things together, having classes and courses
so that we can learn about if it's real estate
or contracting, I've seen you put together some things
for the ladies, so thanks for leading the way on that
because you have definitely been a resource for me
and I know a lot of other women.
Thank you, Ashley.
Okay, this is a quick fact to drop.
One in five homes in major US cities
are now being bought by single women with black women
leading the solo ownership trend.
Black women make up 42% of new women-owned businesses, the fastest growing demographic
of entrepreneurs in the US.
Despite this, less than 1% of venture capital funding goes to Black women.
Women still face a gender pay gap and credit discrimination, which directly impacts mortgage rates and small business loan approvals.
Why do you think so many Black and brown women are choosing to buy homes solo instead of waiting for marriage or partnership?
Is it an empowerment or survival mode?
I mean, as a black woman, I feel like we feel empowered in everything that we do now. So why
would we not, you know, go on our own and purchase a home? You know, I don't, I just, I don't see
really the correlation with marriage and, you know, waiting to purchase your own home.
I feel like you work so hard to, you know, to get with what you want. And usually a home
is like your first big or major purchase. You know what I mean? So for me, I don't know,
correlate like marriage as a black woman. We're not thinking that way. You know, we're
not waiting for marriage, especially somebody, a woman who's, you know,
educated, that has, you know, a job, can get a mortgage.
You know, no man has a perfect house.
That's what when I was single and I purchased my first house, I wasn't thinking about,
oh, I'm waiting on a husband to purchase.
I was excited that I was able to even get
to that point at such an early age. Like, wow, I'm able to purchase.
An accomplishment.
An accomplishment. Like, I did this on my own. This is amazing. Now, let me go to the next
one. Let me do what I can do next. It's just an accomplishment. I don't think it has anything
to do with, oh, you know, I got a point or something like
that.
But I do think there is a conversation, you know, that is being had regarding should you
purchase a house if you're not married?
You know, say you're in a relationship with somebody, but you're not married.
Should you, you know, purchase a house together?
Would you purchase a house separate?
Like, there is that major conversation
that's happening right now.
I mean, personally, I never was in that situation
because I was with Phil since college.
So, you know, it was what it was.
But if I were a single woman or dating
Seriously somebody I think that would be something I would really have to like consider, you know
Do I want to purchase a house with somebody that I'm not married to?
I think that's a legit concern. You know what I mean? Because once you tie
Your finances together in such a major way, that is a major commitment.
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focused on your work.
You have to be very, very focused on your work.
And you have to be very, very focused on your work.
And you have to be very, very focused on your work.
And you have to be very, very focused on your work.
And you have to be very, very focused on your work.
And you have to be very, very focused on your work.
And you have to be very, you know, careful on
who you're about to make this purchase with.
You don't know, you know, what their hidden financial secrets are.
It's a lot that unfolds.
You don't know if you know what they have going on regardless of what it is.
So you definitely have to be careful.
I feel like if I'm in a relationship, I would, I wouldn't think about having that.
You didn't put a ring on my finger when I looking to get married.
So in my eyes, we're not looking to get married.
So I'm still going to make create, you know, build my investment over here.
Perch at home, we got this going on.
As long as it's not affecting our relationship, then it is.
So then, so then would you get like a pre-nup so that, you know, you could keep that home just in your name for yourself?
Just so happens you guys don't last.
Would you make sure that that is only your property?
Yeah.
So that's something you would, you know, if I come into a relationship and, you
know, we get married, I'm definitely going to make sure they have their
prenup, I'll have my prenup, whatever we came in to this relationship with, we're
going to leave with whatever we put together with, then we can split that.
But anything that I have before, you know, before we got married, that's mine.
Oh, what if he's like, okay, what if he moves into your house, right?
But he takes over the mortgage payments.
Then what?
He steals my house.
Unless, I mean, it's different.
It's different.
If he takes over the mortgage payments and we get married, then, you know,
of course it becomes both of ours. So it's to a point where, okay, I don't know. It's
very tricky.
It is tricky.
And I'm not saying you have to know all the answers. It's just these are the questions
that you have to think about. Like these are legit concerns that black women,
now that we are out here purchasing homes
and making big purchases like this on our own,
this is something that you have to think about.
And that was just my point.
I probably would be like,
whatever you invested into this,
this is still my home,
whatever you invested into this home,
I would definitely give you your investments back into it.
But if we split up, you know, and you go find your way out.
But as a man, you shouldn't want.
Child, he's in.
Don't be acting like men.
It's one thing to pick it up.
The men's don't be men's in no more.
OK, they be out here like, that's mine.
When I went through, when I went through feel like, that's mine. I want that.
When I went through my divorce,
we were building a beautiful big house.
And, you know, I put money into it just as well as he did.
And I was just so fed up with everything.
I just left.
I didn't want nothing, even what I invested into it.
I just wanted my piece.
And I left out of it and just went and purchased my own home.
So, some...
Don't do that anymore.
But it's not...
It's not that I'm just being real and I regret it.
I know, but I'm just saying.
I did regret it.
I did it, but I just, you know, sometimes peace
and happiness is more important than money and materialistic things.
Yeah. And then you got so much more later anyway.
Let's talk about credit.
Why is it that women with strong incomes still struggle to get favorable loans?
Have y'all experienced bias in business or real estate?
I've experienced bias in business and more from my competitors.
I really care about competitors and what exactly?
As far as other, you know, other business owners who are real estate owners.
And it's more, it's sad to say, but it's more, hey, why is this young woman coming
into my industry and, you know, taking over, got a whole Netflix show on TV
about her company, she didn't do nothing, she was brand new. She ain't sell all this what I sold.
This, that, and that, that, that, that, blah, blah, blah.
Why is she recruiting all these black, these minority women this, and they get the spotlight?
That was the, you know, what I was experiencing, but I never experienced anything in regards
to, you know, what loans or any of that, even
with my clients.
And I have helped black female who are strippers purchase homes.
They got approved.
I haven't had that situation.
Entrepreneurs, business owners, women who work in the corporate world, I don't experience
the hate and the discrimination
when it comes to that.
So I haven't experienced that and I have dealt with a lot of women who are single women homeowners.
Yeah.
You know, I think you just have, there's so many different people to work with in this
industry.
And just because one person says, no, that doesn't show. You go find, there's
somebody out there who wants to work with you. There's somebody out there who relates to
you. There's somebody out there who wants to help you, who wants to get the job done,
who wants to get the deal done. And I think, you know, just like anything in life and,
you know, black women in general, it's history. We've had to overcome.
And unfortunately, you know, it may not always be as easy as, you know, somebody else's situation.
But I think when you also work with your people, it usually comes out better.
So I always try to, like, you know, use black businesses and go to like use referrals, like
people that I know, people that I know that are going to look out for me and who have
looked out for my people.
I think that's the best way to go so that you don't run into situations like that.
Use your people.
And use someone that's experienced.
That's the problem.
People be using people that don't know what they're doing.
It can be something so simple
and easy for them to get approved. But I haven't dealt with it, thank God. And it seems like
the discrimination is starting to be, there's an awareness and they're starting to resolve
it in the industry of the loan financing,
getting black women minorities approved.
So thank God for that.
Amen.
If the funding still isn't coming,
is it time we gatekeep our knowledge
and build our own investment networks?
Or does the system still owe us access?
I can't answer that question
because I haven't answer that question because I
haven't experienced that.
Yeah.
I think we just have to keep educating ourselves.
And don't stop at no.
You know what I mean?
I do think we need to, I don't know.
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I miss you.
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I don't know what I was talking about.
Anyways, move on.
Listen, I hear, you know, we're independent,
you know, we're powerful,
but I'm trying to pull back that layer.
I'm trying to be, you know,
I done did my, the, you know, I done did my,
the, you know, empowerment and all that.
I just want to be catered to now.
I want to be a queen and just be catered to.
That's-
Yeah, and you deserve that.
But I still think you have an obligation
to do what you're doing,
which is opening up doors for the women behind you.
You know what I mean? So, I think you're absolutely,
you know, at a time in your life where, you know,
you don't necessarily gotta, you know,
go through the struggle and all that,
but everybody's looking up to you now, you know?
Which is a beautiful thing.
I do feel like, and I'm not trying to sound, you know, conceited or beautiful thing. I do feel like, and I'm not trying to sound conceited or arrogant,
but I do feel like I definitely opened up a lot of doors
when it came to black women in real estate.
You know, I was one of the women.
We have Keanu Watson.
We have myself.
It's a lot of women that are out there that, you know,
paved the way for black women in real estate,
and not just real estate, but opening up those luxury, like luxury real estate selling multi-million dollar
homes. So I don't know my black queens who out there killing it.
And the ones that are looking up to us.
Absolutely.
Right. Let's get into our next segment.
Girl, he died.
And guess what?
He died.
Because she left.
The truth about men and broken heart syndrome.
Broken heart syndrome.
Gosh.
You know, I've heard of that.
But like, what old people do?
I feel like once they get older, they really realize it. I feel like once they get older they really realize it
I feel like the younger guys are not really experiencing it and they know how to hide it and cover it
more
Yeah, I feel like
Old people like no, I'm saying like when old people like
They they're really good in that real
Who are we talking about?
Let me write
Like they think wife guy or something no no okay, let me read okay, okay?
What if I told you that men
Yes That's not a little bit right now. So, babies, what if I told you that men, yes, the same men who ghost you, cheat on you,
and forget your birthday are actually out here dying because of love?
Like, oh, I guess they actually dying.
There's a real thing called broken heart syndrome.
And new research shows men are dying from it twice the rate of women.
Wow, I didn't know they was really dying.
See, I told you it was the real thing.
All right, y'all grab your wine and your healing crystals because this one is about to get
deep, spicy, and maybe a little sad.
Lord, have mercy.
So go ahead and tell me your, because I've never experienced this.
Well, the only time, I've never heard it with like no younger people, but like, you know,
older people say they in a nursing home or, you know, just old and they've been together their whole lives
or whatever and you know, they're soulmates.
And say like the wife passes away.
I've heard a lot of stories where like the husband
all of a sudden gets sick and die too,
because it's like their soulmate has passed away
and like they die from like a broken heart,
from being like lonely, like this was their other half.
So I've heard it in that sense before,
but I don't know about younger people with the broken heart syndrome.
Young people would be going out and getting into the man and the lady.
Exactly. Out of my family, because you know,
my great-grand- I was alive when my great-grandfather was,
and my great-grandmother on both sides.
On my mom's side, my mom's dad's side, my great-grandmother died first.
And my grandfather lived to be 98 years old.
So she died at like 70 something.
So he lived an extra 20 years after she died.
He lived an extra 20 years after she died.
But everything else, the male died first.
And the women are still living.
But I feel like sometimes the women may, it's easier for the woman
because it's easier for them to find another man.
For the man, it's harder for them to find another woman
because they old.
You think so? I feel like I thought it was the other way way around I thought old man be always with a little young You know, I'm gonna get in a 80s and 90s
Late 70s 80s I
Thought cuz the woman's like they sexual appetite gets it. Listen like that
I'm about to tell you a little story and I am not lying. I thought you a great grandma.
Girl, I'm not even finished.
I ain't gonna say it's my grandma.
It's not my grandma, but it's somebody close that I know.
It's one of my friends.
You're not even friends, grandma?
She was 80 something years old and she still goes to the sex store and they have these
conversations about what they're going to get, what size and how they use it.
And on my life, I'm not lying.
I was like, I said not lying. I was like
But she looked so young and refreshed I'm like, oh my goodness I am shocked
Probably is cuz she probably like
Like she she used that thing faithfully and she got different sizes If she not she's very experienced like she can have sex parties and tell you about the toys.
But only with toys that with men?
I don't think she messed with me.
I don't need no man.
Her husband passed away, so she just she get her enjoyment from her toys.
OK, I ain't mad at it.
I ain't mad at it at all.
OK, are these young men?
Are they, um, they got broken hearted syndrome? Is that a thing or is it just the old man thing?
I think it's just the old man thing.
I don't, I don't think, I had never heard of a young man having broken heart syndrome.
The only thing I have heard where when they hurt they cry, but they move on fast.
They'll say, I miss her, I cry, but they move on fast.
They'll say, I miss her, I can't live without you,
I'm sorry.
Now they do be real pitiful when they heartbroken.
I mean, pitiful.
Girls, today's time, they, it's every excuse.
Oh, I'm gonna kill myself, I'm gonna go to the hospital.
Oh, I wanna marry you now, right now. I'm sorry, baby.
And then, I'm going to end another relationship.
Exactly.
Oop.
I guess, what happened?
All right.
Well, let's see if Cheryl can connect that.
Let's see.
Where you at?
I don't see you.
Yeah, I see you.
Somebody ain't like what you talking about just now.
Somebody came in and was like, uh-uh, we finished that down right now.
Right now, right now.
They said not today.
Move on. Move on. They said not today.
Move on, move on.
But it's crazy.
Yeah, it really is.
I mean, I feel like men really turn into little babies.
Anytime they get sick, brokenhearted,
they just really act like little kids, like just pitiful.
Yes, they do.
They come up with every scenario of why, who,
they sorry, they on change, our promise.
So do you think men feel heartbreak deeper
because they're not taught how to express their heartbreak?
taught how to express their heartbreak?
Yes, I feel like. I had to deal with heartbreak.
Like, no, I feel like they're taught how to be a man.
And if you cry and if you express yourself, you're not a man.
So I feel like those create, those things create layers to,
you know, for them to, it's hard for them to express
how they really feel.
And another thing, like, they're not taught to open up.
Yeah.
Because if you open up, you're a punk, you know,
you this, you that, you know what I mean?
I think one, people are not,
nobody's really taught how to deal with heartbreak. Two, I think men don't know how to take accountability
a lot of times, and so that comes out as heartbreak.
But really, it's like, oh my god, I can't,
I can't take accountability for these things that have,
you know, I've caused the relationship or whatever.
So it just comes out in that real pitiful childish ass way.
They just probably took accountability that would take a low off of them.
You know what I mean?
But they don't, they can't even, they haven't learned to do that.
So it could be that.
Yeah.
In our dying from heartbreak, should we stop calling them emotionally
unavailable or
is that still fair?
I mean, no, you can still, I'm gonna still call you emotionally unavailable.
You need to figure it out before you die though.
That ain't my problem.
You know what I'm saying?
Like you need to get in touch with your emotions. Don't be, you can't be like deeply in love with me to the point where you only can show
your, you can only be emotionally available once in a while.
Right.
Yeah, I think that's the thing.
Like if they were emotionally available, they would know how to deal with a heartbreak because
they know, okay, you know, I gave it my all.
I expressed myself and it's not going to work, but you let everything build up and it takes a toll
on you and you're stressed out to the point where you, you going six feet under. Yeah.
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Well that just reminded me though, I was one time I feel like my always heartbroken
I was, one time I feel like my, I was heartbroken with Phil. We had broke up for like two weeks and girl was pitiful.
I'm not going to lie, but he was more pitiful.
I realized, but like in my little two, like I went, I was living in LA and I literally
came home cause I was just homesick.
I needed to be home and my parents, I was riding in the and I literally came home because I was just homesick. I needed to be home.
And my parents, I was riding in the car with them.
And like, Erika Badu's song came on and I was like,
oh my God, turn it off. I can't even listen to it.
I was really pitiful. Like, I couldn't listen to certain songs.
I couldn't eat certain foods. Like, everything just...
I was really, really pitiful.
But then, when we got back together,
when we was like trying to figure out what we was gonna do, girl, I realized really, really pitiful. But then when we got back together, when we was like trying to like figure out what we was gonna do, girl, I realized he was more pitiful.
Oh yeah, they do. Listen.
And the thing about it is they be, they be front and they be acting like,
oh, you know, I'm good.
Oh, I'm good. They're even jumping to a whole new relationship.
You need to stop it. Stop it.
relationship. You need to stop it. Stop it.
All right. You playing hard all that time. Stopping. You know, you still, you still,
you still hurt. Boom, boom. Very hurt. Very hurt.
Would you feel guilty if an ex died of a broken heart over you?
I mean, can we really determine that they died from a broken heart over you? I mean, can we really determine that they died from a broken heart?
We won't know. I don't think we would know.
Well, the condition is called broken heart syndrome,
also known as ticot-subocardiomyopathy.
It's a real medically documented condition
that mimics a heart attack.
It's often triggered by intense emotional or physical stress like a breakup, the death
of a loved one, or even public humiliation.
So it's the whole definition for it in the medical book.
So obviously they can, you know, rule that out as to how they die.
That's so cool. It's a scary situation. I don't know. I feel like, you know, I probably would feel a little
guilty if they pass away right after we break up because I mean, it's a natural feeling
like, damn, I was just with this person and you may feel like you didn't get enough closure
or something. So you will, I know I probably would have a guilty conscience.
It would hurt. Not me feeling like I'm the reason why they died,
but it will be some guilt on me,
because maybe I feel like there wasn't any closure.
Yeah, I mean, I guess, baby.
I...
I...
Dying of a broken heart is pretty pitiful, I must say.
But, okay, moving on, let's get into segment three, the naked truth.
Can sleeping in the buff boost your health?
All right, baddies, let's talk about something that's equal parts bold, biological, and well,
fair.
New studies suggest that sleeping without clothes
might actually do more than just free your body
from tight waistbands and tangled pajama pants.
Research shows that ditching the nightwear
can help regulate hormones, lower stress levels
by reducing cortisol, and even boost your metabolism,
leading to potential fat loss while you sleep.
But hold up, is this real science
or just another trendy wellness claim?
Are people really seeing health benefits
from sleeping au natural,
or are we all just getting more comfortable with our bodies
and calling it biohacking?
From hormone balance to hotter sex lives,
yep, we're going there.
We're stripping this topic down
and getting into the bed with the facts.
Okay. I sleep in that kit. You do? We're stripping this topic down and getting into the bed with the facts Like naked
You do?
Mm-hmm. I always sleep naked. I first of all I
liked when I'm you know in a relationship and I'm cuddled up I don't like having clothes on
Cuz sometimes it needs to be easy access
If I want something it's o'clock in the morning,
I'll toot the little booty up, boom, boom,
and then go, you ain't even gotta get up.
And I don't like being hot.
Like, I like for it to be cold,
and I like to be wrapped up in blankets,
but I like to be naked.
And if I want to get up and go to the bathroom
at 2 o'clock in the morning, 3 o'clock in the morning,
I ain't gotta have crusts all in my eyes.
I'm walking to the bathroom, I ain't gotta pull down my pants. I just sitclock in the morning, I ain't got to have crusts all in my eyes. I'm walking to the bathroom.
I ain't got to pull down my pants.
I just sit right on the toilet, wipe myself and jump right back in bed.
Yeah, I feel you.
I mean, I know that sounds amazing.
I sleep naked, but I don't always want to.
Bill don't let me get in the bed with clothes on, but I try it. I be trying.
First of all, I like to sleep with a bra on
because I don't be feeling everywhere.
First of all, that's me in my house.
Definitely.
I feel like I sweat more with no clothes on when I sleep.
And we keep our bedroom very, very cold. But I feel like when I have no clothes on, I just be sweating.
But I like it because I feel like I'm losing weight.
I'm like, I'm sweating at night.
I'm losing calories.
You are. You're burning calories when all that is going on.
I just, I love it.
Like...
But Phil don't let me sleep, man.
If I can, he's ripping them off as soon as I get into bed.
Like, off.
I hate sleeping with bras on. Ugh.
I like for them to be free.
Yeah, I mean, I be in, like, I have comfortable sleepwear,
like, bras, so they don't feel like nothing.
But, yeah, sometimes I just want to feel, like, put together.
Like, everything's up then, feel like put together, like everything.
Stop being inside.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
But, you know, it's not happening.
It is what it is.
I'm married, you know, got no choice, no, no options there.
All right.
So let's talk about it.
Is sleeping naked actually healthy or is it just an excuse for people to feel sexy at
night?
Do you think people really looking at it to see if it's damn healthy?
No.
No, I don't think so.
But I mean, there are health benefits, so.
If they are health benefits, they are amazing.
The health benefit for me is easy access.
Me sleeping naked to my man, it's easy.
I mean, I feel like maybe it could help your relationship,
you know, if you get in the bed naked with your man every night,
you know, you can lead to more sex,
which leads to a healthier relationship.
Exactly. There we go.
Yeah. Okay.
There we go.
Can sleeping without clothes really burn fat, or is it just wishful and naked thinking?
I think it's ooh.
Because I'd be high.
It may burn a few calories.
It may burn a few calories.
If you're high, you may feel like you in a little sauna or a steam room or whatever it is and sweatin' up.
But I don't like to sweat.
Like if I'm sweating, the AC is going down.
I might, maybe I'd be in a cold sweat.
Because my room be cold.
I don't know.
I don't know, I don't think we look at it,
sleeping naked, we look at it for the health benefits.
We look at it for the sex benefits.
Yeah, that was the next question.
Does it improve your sex life? I think it does, for sure.
Yeah, because if you get in the bed with a muumuu on,
and your bonnet's on, what is this?
And your bonnet, and your mouth guard.
Like, girl, no, you're doing too much.
Yeah, like people who...
Now, okay, now when I say I. Yeah, like people who, now, okay.
Now when I say I like to get in the bed with clothes on,
I literally meant like a little sleep bra
and some little panties.
Now the people who be going to bed
when a full lace pajama set or silk pajama set,
how?
I don't understand that.
Like you get in the bed with a full outfit on,
that I can't do.
Sometimes I like to, you know, I like to wake up
to a clock in the morning, do some up you little tricks or whatever.
It's it's a lot of benefits in this, you know, to sleep in that.
OK. Period.
It's saying the sleep and naked together increase intimacy
or just create more opportunities for late night arguments over covers?
Ain't nobody arguing over no damn clothes.
-♪ LAUGHTER -Yeah, no.
Alright, that was a cute little segment.
I will be sleeping naked tonight. Don't worry, Phil.
No worries here.
Phil don't hit all your clothes, your pajamas.
He will. He does that.
All right. But now we got some questions from our humble baddies.
I love when they write to us and ask us questions.
All right. Question number one, if you had to leave the U.S.,
what are the top two places you would move to?
Oh, we already answered that.
Oh, last time. Right on birthday.
You can answer.
You can answer.
Where would you move to?
Ooh.
Um, well, now that I'm being educated and I've visited Africa, I think I would love to choose an African country.
But there's so many countries I haven't been to yet, so I don't want to say which one yet.
But I just feel like if I had the opportunity to move somewhere, it should be an African country,
because that's the motherland.
I said the same thing.
I got to pick another one. Another one.
Probably, probably like Italy, because I love the food.
I used to live there when I was a baby.
And I just love it. It's such a beautiful country.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Okay. So did y'all do all these questions?
Yeah. Let's get to the humble baddies now. All right, humble baddies now.
You got it.
Go ahead.
Let's see.
What do you have?
I got to pull it back up because you know, we had a little tech.
You want me to do it?
Yeah, read it and I'll answer it. Okay.
Hey ladies, so I've been in this weird situation for about six months now and I really need
some real talk from y'all.
I'm 29, recently started dating this amazing guy.
He's emotionally available, rare, consistent, and actually wants to build something real.
We've been together for about four months now and things are moving in a healthy direction except for one issue. My ex, who I was
with for almost five years, still pays all my major bills. I'm talking rent,
phone, car note, and even health insurance. He says he doesn't want me to struggle
and that he still cares and even though we're not together and no, we're not sleeping together, it's truly just
financial.
He sends the money like clockwork and keeps it very platonic.
I've told him my new man, I've told my new man about it and he is not okay with it.
He feels like it's a form of control that no man is doing all that out of pure kindness.
He told me straight up, you can't build a future with me while being financially tied to your past.
I get it, but here's the thing.
I'm not rich.
My new man is still getting on his feet.
So the lifestyle I'm used to is completely different
when I'm with him.
I love being with him,
but I'm scared of letting go of a life
where I don't have to worry about money.
Is that wrong?
So I guess my question is, what would you do? Would you cut off your ex and have to worry about money. Is that wrong? So I guess my question is,
what would you do? Would you cut off your ex and have to worry about money or stay financially
secure? Be honest, I can take it. Maya from Nashville, Tennessee.
I mean, if she was being, first of all, he's, what do you call it? Basically, she's been held in that spot.
He's making her lazy because she's not going to change.
If he continues, if there's no relationship between them and he's financially taking care
of her, not, well, am I complaining?
No.
I mean, I have somebody taking care of me financially and it's nothing more than that.
But I'm not going gonna get into a serious relationship
with someone if I have somebody financially
taking care of me, because it's disrespect
for that man who you're in a relationship with.
It's a lot of disrespect.
So I wouldn't, you have to choose one.
If you're gonna continue to get financial help
from this man, which I'm sure you are,
then you need to cut off ties,
because it's not fair for this man
to be able to deal with that. That's kind of like the situation. And I was telling Lex
about it. It's kind of like the situation we was talking about on Monday. Like,
I wouldn't want, if I'm in a relationship, I wouldn't want someone to have financial ties over
if I'm in a relationship with you. It's just not respectful. There's boundaries that have to be set.
And for this man, he's financially taking care of you. It may not be the same thing, but it's still someone there.
Even if they're overlooking or they're taking care of it's just respect.
It's going to create controversy and you have to choose one.
It's not fair for the man.
Yeah, I agree.
the shoes one. It's not fair for the man. Yeah, I agree. I mean, anything that keeps you tied to your ex, I think, you know, you shouldn't be moving on. Like, if you're still
tied to them in any kind of way, whether it's financially, emotionally, I mean, you know,
when you have children with somebody, that's always going to be a connection. But if you
have a choice, like, children is not a choice, you know, but if you have a with somebody, that's always gonna be a connection. But if you have a choice, like children is not a choice,
but if you have a choice to be connected with them,
then you have to make the choice to either,
be connected to that person and not deal with anybody else
or cut them off so you can move on fully.
And yeah, I agree with the man.
I agree with him.
I think she shouldn't be trying to be financially
taking care of somebody else.
That is disrespectful, like you said.
So, Maya, I don't know, girl, you need to think about what you really want.
And if it's moving on from your past, then you gotta cut ties with that ex.
Yep.
Well, all right, you guys.
Maya, hopefully we answered your question.
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