Club Shay Shay - Kamala Harris

Episode Date: October 28, 2024

In the latest episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe welcomes none other than Vice President Kamala Harris for an inspiring conversation filled with historic moments, personal reflections, and big ...dreams for the future. Vice President Harris opens up about her journey of groundbreaking "firsts," from becoming the first woman, Black, and Asian American U.S. Vice President to being the first female Attorney General of California. She shares memorable stories, including receiving the monumental call from President Biden that changed the trajectory of her career. The two dive into the realities of her day-to-day life, intense schedule, and dedication to staying connected with communities across the country. She also reminisces about her love of music, recounting a bucket list moment when Stevie Wonder sang her happy birthday. With only days left until Election Day, she reflects on the gravity of her role, her vision for the country, and the importance of mobilizing voters. This episode showcases Vice President Harris’s resilience, humor, and commitment to making a lasting impact for future generations. Key issues and policy considerations affecting communities across the country are at the forefront of the conversation. They discuss essential topics, including workers' rights, corporate practices, and historical injustices that have disadvantaged Black communities. From Donald Trump's discriminatory landlord practices, his involvement in the Central Park Five case, and his racially charged birtherism against President Obama, they shift to contemporary issues facing marginalized communities. Vice President Harris speaks candidly about economic disparities, noting her focus on combating inflation, housing, and price gouging while supporting affordable housing and small business initiatives. She emphasizes the need for policies that protect Social Security, ensure accessible healthcare, and address health disparities affecting Black men, particularly in colon and prostate cancer screenings. With Election Day approaching, she stresses the significance of the upcoming choice, advocating for leaders dedicated to working and middle-class families over self-serving interests. Important topics like immigration reform come into focus as the conversation unfolds. Vice President Harris advocates for a secure yet humane immigration system, emphasizing the need for a comprehensive approach that allows individuals to earn their citizenship while effectively addressing border security. This perspective stands in stark contrast to the often divisive rhetoric seen during Trump’s presidency. As the episode progresses, VP Harris critiques current political figures and highlights the urgent need for a new generation of leaders committed to real change, calling out the failures of the past. Don't miss this insightful episode as Vice President Kamala Harris shares her vision for a more inclusive future for America on Club Shay Shay!#volume #Herd  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:43 Yes, every vote counts, sir. Who's next? Who's next? Oops. Ooh. And one for your son. Here you go. Hey. Come back here. Hey! What's his name? Pop Tart. Henry? Scratch and sniff.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Ah. The smell of freedom. Madam VP, you're a couple of years older than myself, so we kind of grew up in the 80s. The smell of freedom. been grinding all my life sacrifice hustle paid the price want a slice got the roll of dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life all my life been grinding all my life sacrifice hustle paid the price want a slice got the roll of dice that's why all my life I've been grinding all my life hello welcome to another episode of Club CheChe. This episode is brought to you by Call of Duty Black Off 6, the woman that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today. She's the highest ranking woman in US history.
Starting point is 00:01:54 She's made a career of being first. She's the first woman to serve as Attorney General, African American, Asian American descent. She's also district, she's been district attorney of San Francisco. She was the nation's first Indian American senator. She's the first woman first black Asian American to be elected vice president. She set the record for the most tie-breaking votes cast by vice president. She's the first black woman Asian American in US history to win the presidential nomination of a major party. She's the first HBCU grad, making us proud. She's a Howard University alum.
Starting point is 00:02:25 She's a member of the prestigious Alpha Alpha Kappa Alpha sorority. Here she is in person, Madam VP Kamala Harris. Madam VP, how you doing? Thank you very well Shannon. How you doing? It is an extreme honor, privilege and a pleasure to have you on Club Shae Shae. CJ, who's the producer here when we started this journey, Madam, four years ago, celebrities, athletes, entertainers, influencers. VPs and presidential hopefuls, we're on the bingo card.
Starting point is 00:02:53 You're here, so I want to thank you very much. I thank you. When we have guests come on, Madam VP, we like to toast. And what I read on this card, you don't deserve this, you earned this, being the first in so many areas. And you make us proud. I just want you to know, you make us proud for what you've been able to accomplish.
Starting point is 00:03:12 And we're 12 days away, and we hope you have an even greater accomplishment. So here's to continued success and everything you've done and everything that you will do. Oh, bless you and thank you. And to you, Shannon, to you for all the success and the voice you give to so many issues. Thank you will do. Oh bless you and thank you and to you Shannon, to you for all the success and the voice you give to so many issues. Thank you for that. Thank you. And cheers to you. Cheers. And I'm not gonna actually drink this because I might
Starting point is 00:03:33 fall asleep and I need to do this with Barack Obama this afternoon. So here we are. Cheers to everybody. So before we get into the things that you want to do once you become president of the United States, I want to go back. When you found out when President Biden called you and said that he was no longer going to seek reelection, and you got that call, do you remember where you were and what you thought when you heard him say these words to you?
Starting point is 00:04:01 I do. So I was home. It was a Sunday afternoon. And my niece, her husband and their two young daughters were visiting and staying with us. And I promised the kids I'd have pancakes and bacon and everything. And then after that, I had a puzzle for the kids and we were sitting down to do the puzzle. And the phone rang. And it was President Biden. And so that's when he told me. And it was obviously life changing in so many ways.
Starting point is 00:04:35 But I have to tell you, Shannon, at that moment I knew what it would mean, but not in the detail of it. But I certainly understood the seriousness and the gravity of the moment. And actually one of the first people I called was my pastor. I knew I needed a moment to just be still and for my spirit and my mind to have clarity about the seriousness of the moment and my role. And I'll never forget that call or that moment or that day. Your life instantaneously changed in that moment. Yes, it did.
Starting point is 00:05:18 Because now all of a sudden, you weren't going to be running, you weren't going to be the VP anymore, you're going to be front and center. Right. You knew what the undertaking, having been four years as the vice president, what that moment would mean. I had a sense of it, you know, like so many of us, you know, when you know, this is your life, right? So there are those moments where your instinct kicks in, sometimes before your conscious
Starting point is 00:05:42 mind and thoughts do. And my instinct kicked in immediately that I need to focus and I need to do certain things immediately, which included making, I think we estimated I made over a hundred calls that day. My team and I'm an incredible team all came in and you know, nobody expected, a Sunday afternoon correct in fact we actually joked who had taken a shower that day because you know people came in and their workout clothes you know different people and you know bandana around the head just you know and came in and we then for hours and hours well into the night did you tell them did what did you tell them why you had summoned them to come to your place?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Did you give them that news or were you waiting for them to get there to share that news with them? Well, so the news started to leak out pretty much immediately. But you know, of the many blessings that I have and have had, one of them is an incredible team of people around me. You know what that's like. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Where they're just there and they will rise to a moment and no matter how high that moment is or meaning how serious it is and what I love and it's certainly my own work ethic that there is no job too small or too big if there's something that needs to get done. So although you have a huge role now, what's a typical day like for you now once you've been thrust into this? What time are you normally getting to bed? What time are you getting up? And what's some of the activities that you do on a given day? I'm having, I'd probably estimate 14 hour, 15 hour days.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Okay. When I wake up, no matter how little sleep or how much sleep I've had, I work out every morning. Okay. Okay. You know, you know, it's like my body and spirit, right? And then, you know, that's the only time of my day I really own. And then it is these days, it's not unusual for me to be in three or even four cities in one day, rallies with thousands of people, 10,000 people showing up, making calls to folks. Just now I landed in Atlanta, the mayor of Atlanta, who greets me every single time. So I'll talk with elected leaders who are supportive about, so for example, here in Atlanta, what do we need to do to make sure that we're giving folks the resources to knock
Starting point is 00:08:16 on doors and remind folks of the power of their voice? And 12 Days In, it really is a lot about trying to focus on getting folks to know their power to not let anybody suppress or silence their voice and to vote. Right. So, breakfast, what does Madam VP eat for breakfast or do you have time or is it on the go? No, I, you know, when I was younger I didn't think I needed breakfast. I wasn't a breakfast eater. Okay. Now I have breakfast every morning. It's usually a spinach omelet.
Starting point is 00:08:48 It's not very exciting. Right. But it's protein with a little vegetable. And you know, I like chicken, apple, sausage, and some toast. And then I'm gone. Madam BP, you're a couple of years older than myself, so we kind of grew up in the 80s. Thank you. But I'm only 35. Come on now, I'm your guest. No, but you're, so we kind of grew up in the 80s. But I'm only 35.
Starting point is 00:09:06 Come on now, I'm your guest. No, but you only 30. But we grew up in the- But just keep moving, because I'm going to give you a shovel in a minute. I see, I see. You won't let it go. We could have just moved on past that real quick, but you drew attention to it. But we grew up in the 70s with music. Yes. When it fire, Ohio players. Yes. Ohio Players.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Oh yes, fire. You, I mean, come on. Oh, you were like fire? Come on. Okay. Dun dun dun. Yes. Dun dun dun dun.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yes. What do you listen to now? Oh, you know, I wish I were listening to more music to be honest with you. Because I love, it just, but when I do. You don't have downtime? Like when you have downtime? I don't have just, but when I do. You don't have downtime, like when you have downtime. I don't have any downtime, really. I know my little violin, I'm playing right now with you.
Starting point is 00:09:50 I really don't, but when I, I love, I love jazz. You know, if it's from Thelonious Monk to Miles Davis. I love Aretha, I was just with Stevie. Right, I saw that. Stevie, can I tell you? Yes, you can. Bucket list, Stevie Wonder on my birthday sang me happy birthday. Happy birthday to me. Can you imagine? No. I was I was
Starting point is 00:10:16 literally I it was it was surreal. Can you a bucket list moment when Stevie Wonder himself? It sings you happy birthday as an 18 year old. Yeah. Could you imagine ever your life would have been like this? Never this many years. Never. Let me tell you, my mother loved. She had every Stevie and every Aretha Franklin record, every album, like literally every one of them. So for I mean, you know, songs in the Key of Life, like all those Stevie songs that were about
Starting point is 00:10:52 everything from the movement to optimism. I would have never at 18 thought that he'd be singing me Happy Birthday, ever, never, never. That's the least, I mean, but obviously everybody knows who Stevie is. He was a trial prodigy, 13 years old, and he was doing great things. But to see, Madam VP, what you've been able to do, you've had so many firsts. The first woman attorney general, African American, Asian American descent.
Starting point is 00:11:18 You were the DA of San Francisco. You were the first Indian American US senator. And second black woman ever in the history of the United States Senate elected. Second in the history of the United States Senate. Have you had an opportunity to sit back and reflect and say, wow, but work is not yet done? That's more where I am. The work is not done. The work is not yet done.
Starting point is 00:11:42 There's so much to do. I mean, from to your point being in the Senate, so there is a weight of responsibility that I know we all feel, right, when we have been blessed with an experience that allows us to be a role model and to hopefully inspire people and to remind them of what's important or point out the things that need to be addressed. So for example, as only the second black woman elected to the United States Senate, I took on a real role of leadership around black maternal mortality, which affects black women and affects their spouses, their husbands, their families, their children. And I feel a sense of responsibility
Starting point is 00:12:26 and a very strong duty to make sure that I use my voice in a way that is about lifting up people who have not always been in the room. Hello, America. Mr. States and Shape stepped out for some black-up six. But I'm here as his replacer.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Let's start with Texas, shall we well, I think this is I mean Things are moving. Oh, I can go on there Yep Yeah, that's all for today folks Check in tomorrow If you could speak to your 18 year old self, what would you tell her? Okay, folks, check in tomorrow. If you could speak to your 18-year-old self, what would you tell her? If I could speak to my 18-year-old self,
Starting point is 00:13:13 I would probably tell her, continue to keep your friends. You know, my best friend from kindergarten is still one of my best friends. What? Yes. In fact, she's- Y'all made it to the first girl
Starting point is 00:13:30 you just ran for here? She's, yes. In fact, she's been out knocking on doors in North Carolina just this last week for me. I would say, you know, hold on to those, hold on to that, which is that your friends are so important, your family is so important. I would probably encourage myself at 18 to remember that you have a lot of people who
Starting point is 00:13:57 are supporting you even if they don't know you. You know, that's what I mentor a lot of people, Shannon. So this is what I'm really reflecting on, which is what I tell the young people I mentor, including to know that even when you are in that room and you're the only one who looks like you or who has had your life experience, to know you are not alone in that room and that you must therefore walk in that room, chin up, shoulders back, knowing we're all there applauding you. When I mentor young women and men, I remind them that you are often going to be told, well, it's not your time,
Starting point is 00:14:33 not your turn, you're too young, nobody like you has done this before. And I tell them, you know, don't you ever listen to that. I like to say I eat no for breakfast. I don't hear no. You ask me what I eat for breakfast. I eat no breakfast. I don't hear it. And that's part of what are my life lessons that I try to share with young people to remind them that you cannot ever be burdened by other people's limited ability to understand who you are. Like don't let their limited ability burden you about your own ability, you know? Madam VP, you were raised by a single mom. What did that experience tell you about your mom and what did it tell you about you? Well it told me that one of the things that is precious
Starting point is 00:15:28 is to build community and family. Like my mother, she understood that there is a community that she wanted her children to be raised in and she was very intentional and purposeful about that. And so I always say to people, even when I took the stage as the nominee for the Democratic nomination, that, you know, there is the family that you have by birth, and there is also the family you have by love. And they're equally family. Right? And I learned that from my mother. And they're equally family. Right? And I learned that from my mother.
Starting point is 00:16:04 So my mother, I had all these aunties and uncles. My Uncle Sherman, who was one of the first black men to graduate from Berkeley School of Law, who, when we were young girls, sat us down and taught us how to play chess. Because Uncle Sherman said, you need to understand how the chessboard works, because that's the way the world works.
Starting point is 00:16:24 They're going to be different players with different moves and you need to see the whole board. My mother raised us around, like my Auntie Chris, who went to Howard in the 50s and pledged Alpha Kappa Alpha and she was one of my incredible role models growing up and that was one of the big reasons models growing up, and that was one of the big reasons I wanted to go to Howard University and pledge Alpha Kappa Alpha. Those are some of the lessons that I've learned from my mother, and I try to also share with people, right, which is the beauty of community, and it's the way I am, right, which is, you know, the children in my life, whether they be my own or, you know, my godchildren or whomever, right, that it's a collective responsibility
Starting point is 00:17:12 that we have. Did you, did you know you were different? I mean, were there a lot of people in the community that looked like you and like your mom or did your mom tell you you were different? Well, my mother taught us to, and everyone in my growing up, they would tell all of us kids that we were special. I don't think we were particularly special. But they told us we were, and we believed them. We believed them. I think that's such an important part of what we can all do for
Starting point is 00:17:45 the children and the children in our lives. And you know, but my mother raised two black girls to be proud black women. Back to music, one of the soundtracks from my childhood was, you know, you are young, gifted and black. You know? And that's what it was. I'll get the phone number later. And we're back, America. Your moderators, they got a hankering for Call of Duty. They're off playing Black Ops 6. Scrap this s***.
Starting point is 00:18:22 What is democracy without feedback? And without some freebies, here comes the free t-shirts. Woo! Three pointer. You lost your mom to cancer. Yeah. You were very close to your mom because she was a single parent and that was pretty much what you had, although you had a community to help raise you. Yes. How did you deal, how did you cope with that loss? parent and that was pretty much what you had although you had a community to help raise you. How did you deal, how did you cope with that loss?
Starting point is 00:18:49 Grief is difficult. It's difficult. You know, there are two sides to the coin about when you have relationships in your life that touch you deeply and then to lose that person it leaves a big void, right? That's the two sides. And I think that part of what I was just talking about this, but the big part about grief is, especially if you lose somebody to a sickness, to an illness,
Starting point is 00:19:16 I think it's really important that you try to remember them as they lived and not as they die. Because I think that's how they'd want us to remember them, but also to remember their suffering, which hopefully was a fraction of their time on this earth, is to compound the grief in a way that I think it adds to the pain and what they'd want is that their active memory,
Starting point is 00:19:42 that our active memory of them is about when they were vibrant and alive. So. Let's get into things that will change what will happen if you were to become president, say, in the next 12 to 13 days. Polls suggest that voters trust President Trump, former President Trump, more on the economy.
Starting point is 00:20:02 What can you tell the voters, our viewing audience, our listening audience, that if you were to become president, while Madam VP Carmel Harris will be much better on the economy than what President Trump was? Well, so I'm really glad you brought that up, Shannon. So first of all, let's clear up certain myths. Okay. You know those checks that went out? Yes, those stimulus checks.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Right. Stimulus check. Yeah, I know. Well, right. Yes. We gotta be full. Stimulus, but they call them stemis. Okay. The reason those came about is because there was a Democratic majority in the House of Representatives in Congress. People like Maxine Waters, people like Hakeem Jeffries, right? Yes. Who did the work of pushing to say, people need help right now and we need to send out checks. There was a whole lot of opposition to it, including from Donald Trump's White House. Yes, even him.
Starting point is 00:20:55 I think he was resistant to it at first. Yes. That's why those checks, remember, Congress holds the purse. Yes. So really Congress wrote those checks, but then Donald Trump, unlike any president before or after, decided he put his name on those checks. So therefore people thought. So people thought Donald Trump, they gave me that check. And so let's clear that up first and foremost, but let's also deal with where he was in terms of his policies on the economy. He gave the biggest tax cuts for billionaires in the biggest corporations, which caused an incredible deficit.
Starting point is 00:21:30 He tried to get rid of the Affordable Care Act, which we also call Obamacare, which benefited so many people, including and in particular, black people in America who otherwise were denied by the insurance company's health coverage because of pre-existing conditions. Yes, that's most important. Let the people know.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Right? With an Affordable Care Act, if you have a pre-existing condition, insurance companies can no longer deny you coverage. That's exactly right. And if you think about what that means in the context of also knowing the big health disparities we have in the black community and how more likely therefore black folks might be to have pre-existing conditions. Love pressure, diabetes, cancers. All of that. Asthma for our children. Yes, sickle cell. It's all of that. So by getting
Starting point is 00:22:19 rid of the pre-existing condition ban, what that did, but he wanted to get rid of the Affordable Care Act. What we have done in part of my policies going forward include what we need to do to not only retain the cap that we got on insulin at $35 a month for seniors, by the way, black folks are 60% more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes. He wants to get rid of it with that Project 2025. Everybody needs to check that out. What he would do to get rid of Social Security or at least raise the age to 70, so you'd
Starting point is 00:22:48 have to work to 70 to be able to qualify, get rid of Medicare, get rid of the Affordable Care Act. And that's just on health policy, not to mention bringing back not only tax cuts for the richest people, but what he would do that is about eliminating or reducing the ability of corporations to be required to pay overtime. Overtime pay. So you have you could work and the corporations wouldn't have to pay you for? For overtime. Who work for free? That's right. And overtime means you are actually working a longer day which means you are more tired. Right. Which
Starting point is 00:23:21 means it requires more exertion. That's why we have overtime pay, so you don't take advantage of workers. In addition to all of that, we're looking at Donald Trump basically somebody who has never been understanding of the issues that affect the community about disparities. And I'm going to talk, for example, about how when he was a landlord, he denied rent to black families. You look at what he did in terms of taking out a full page ad in the New York Times against the Central Park Five, which were a bunch of, they're not young adults, they were teenagers, black and brown teenagers, took out a full page out on the New York in the New York Times calling for their execution for crimes They did not commit they were innocent Donald Trump who said of the first black president in the United States the birther is
Starting point is 00:24:16 To have people question whether he was born in the United States to try and diminish and then most recently You look in this very election to try and diminish. And then most recently, you look in this very election, legal black immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, saying they're eating their pets. So part of what we have to help people understand is don't think you're in Donald Trump's club. You're not.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Right. He's not going to be thinking about you. You think he's having you over for dinner? You think that when he's going, when he's with his buddies, his billionaire buddies, he's thinking about what we need to do to deal with addressing, for example, my work around what I'm doing to address disparities in black men's health around colon cancer, around what we need to do around screenings, what we need to do around prostate cancer black men are twice as likely to have, and screenings, what we need to do around prostate cancer, black men are twice as likely to have, and screenings, what we need to do to address...
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Starting point is 00:25:56 because the economy seems to be heading in the right direction, but the inflation. Gas prices are extremely high, groceries are extremely high. This rent, I mean, it used to be when I I was renting they moved the rent up $40 a year now They've moved it up for a hundred. So let's talk about that. I'm glad you raised that so for example what let groceries Yes, the price is still too high You know what I know it part of my plan is to deal with price gouging. I did it when I was attorney general
Starting point is 00:26:21 I'm gonna do it as president Which is these companies that will jack up the prices of groceries to take advantage of people in need and in particular during a crisis, like what you see around the pandemic or Hurricane Helene. Yes, yes. Milton, right? So there's that.
Starting point is 00:26:37 In terms of housing, first of all, we know that black families are 40% less likely to own their home. And we can go back to redlining, we can go back to policies that were by law or practice, meant to not give black folks equal opportunity to home ownership, especially in certain neighborhoods. We can go back to what happened around the GI Bill.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And when all the great generation we called them came back, and there was federal policy to say, you all fought for our country, we're gonna give you a boost around helping you buy homes. But those black servicemen, and it was mostly men, those black servicemen did not. So you had then a time when there was a boost, it ended up being not for black service members.
Starting point is 00:27:27 So part of my policy is to one, create a fund so that we will give a $25,000 down payment to first time homeowners to just help people get in the door. We will deal with the rent issue because part of what we're seeing in Atlanta, in places across our country is these corporations are buying up all these properties, which means then that they don't have to deal with competition between the properties and they're jacking up rent costs. So it's about also going after that corporate gouging around what they're doing to buy up and then jack up the prices of rent.
Starting point is 00:28:01 We also need to help people with small business ownership. I did, even before I was running for president, a tour. I called it the Opportunity Economy Tour, focused on black men and black entrepreneurs. What we know is, unlike Donald Trump, we got $400 million handed to him practically on a silver platter. And by the way, Shannon filed for bankruptcy six times. Everybody wants to say he's a great businessman. Take a look at his record. I know that so many of our entrepreneurs who have great ideas don't have access to capital, but they have serious work ethic, great ideas, and a plan to do the work. So part of my plan is to increase access to capital, including giving $20,000 for
Starting point is 00:28:45 giveable loans, for startup capital, for people to buy the equipment, and then to change the tax deduction. So whereas it is now $5,000 to make it $50,000 to start a new business, because nobody can start a new business on $5,000. And the direct benefit when we're looking at black entrepreneurs is profound and All it is is about saying this Americans in general regardless of their race or gender we have ambition. We have aspirations We have dreams, but not everyone has access to the opportunity to let some actually accomplish that
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Starting point is 00:30:28 Because there are reports that it could possibly be depleted by 2033. And there are estimated that 11,000 people turn at least 65 years of age every single day. So what are you going to do to make sure because that you know people disabilities retirement? Survivors with beneficiaries. What are you going to do to make sure that that continues? So Shannon to your point there was an independent economic review of Donald Trump's plan Which shows that Social Security in the next six years would be insolvent under his plan Meaning that it would not be able
Starting point is 00:31:05 to pay out what hardworking people who deserve dignity in their retirement deserve. And as you and I both know, there are a lot of our seniors who their only source of income is that Social Security check, right? Is there the only way they're going to pay the rent or have food on the table? So my plan is about doing what we need to do to put the resources back into Social Security, but also expanding it. Because here's part of the problem with Social Security is that for our aging seniors, if they are a couple, for example, and one of the spouses passes, that cuts their Social Security benefits almost in half. So part
Starting point is 00:31:41 of my plan is to reconfigure it so that that surviving spouse does not then have a crisis where they've already lost their loved one. But we also just have to understand on a macro level, we've got to require that billionaires and corporations pay their fair share, right? They can afford to. And that's part of what is the difference between me and Donald Trump. My plan is about tax cuts for small businesses, for working people, for middle-class people. A hundred million Americans will benefit around tax cuts. My plan is that no taxes will be raised for anybody making less than $400,000 a year. My plan is that we give young parents a $6,000 child tax credit to help them pay for child care for a crib or a car seat. Because you and I both know the vast majority of our young parents have a natural desire to parent their children well, but not always the resources.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And back to the way I was raised, I know that the children of the community are the children of the community. That you and I will benefit from that young family having the resources they need. So it's about all of us benefiting, but it's a state of mind and it's a perspective. Mine is about thinking about the challenges people face and getting them help. Donald Trump is full-time focused on himself. You watch his rallies. He will spend full-time talking about, I was going to say, Freddy Krueger, Hannibal Lecter. Might as well be Freddy Krueger. Hannibal Lecter. He'll spend full-time talking about his grievances, about what everyone has done to him. He'll talk about himself, but he does
Starting point is 00:33:25 not talk about the American people. He does not talk about what he's going to do for middle class. He does not talk about what he's going to do for families, for working people. And we're 12 days out. This is probably one of the most serious elections that we have faced in our lifetime. My perspective, and I will be the kind of president who spends full time focused on the needs of the people, that has been my career. I have spent my whole career as a public servant trying to uplift the condition of other people, knowing what is possible and doing it with a sense of optimism. On January 20th, a new president is going into the White House. Period. A new president is going into the White House. Do you want to look at the Oval Office and see a Donald Trump who's going to be sitting there filling out his enemies list, spending full time figuring out retribution and revenge,
Starting point is 00:34:19 or looking at the Oval Office and knowing you have a president in there who's creating a to-do list, that's about what to do to help the American people. So raising minimum age of Social Security, that's not on the table for you? No, no. Here's, look, people work hard all their lives, and they deserve to be able to retire with dignity. I'll tell you how I come at this. I come at it from a number of perspectives, including thinking about how I was raised in terms of how you take care of the elders, right?
Starting point is 00:34:54 I think about it in terms of taking care of my mother when she was sick and dying from cancer. So one of my policies, for example, is to help Medicare pay for home health care for seniors why because Look, I did it and it means you know trying to cook for an elder to make something they feel like eating right to help them put on a sweater and We have so many people who are in the sandwich generation. They're raising their young kids and taking care of their parents. And either they have to deplete their savings
Starting point is 00:35:29 to qualify for Medicaid, right, to be able to help pay for home health care, or they have to quit their job to do the work of taking care of their kids and their parent. And I just believe that's not right, that we should have policies that give people dignity, especially our seniors. So my plan is Medicare pays for home health care. not right. That we should have policies that give people dignity, especially our seniors. So my plan is Medicare pays for home health care. And no, I would not raise the age of
Starting point is 00:35:52 eligibility for Social Security because the same thing, we shouldn't force people to work until they're 70 in order to retire and have a moment to just enjoy their life and not worry about how they're going to pay their rent? Is Medicare for all a priority for you? What is a priority for me is making sure that access to health care is a right and not just a privilege of those who can afford it. That's why I am in favor of and have pushed and been a leader on capping the cost of insulin at $35 a month. And why I intend to allow Medicare to actually negotiate against the big pharmaceutical companies to bring down the cost of prescription medication for everybody. That's why I have fought for what we need to do around making sure Medicare covers senior care. Access to health care should not be
Starting point is 00:36:42 a question of how much money you have in your back pocket. That's just not right And I feel strongly about that Blacks for Trump They feel that Trump is better for the black community Can you explain that Donald Trump's history with blacks? Where did this come that all of a sudden? I mean, it's been like this because a lot of people used to say I'm Donald Trump of the ghetto because he would I mean for A lot of blacks not all but for some blacks. He was Madam VP whether we want to admit it or not. He's revered by some blacks
Starting point is 00:37:16 But here's the thing the question for everybody should he be president United States, okay, right That's the question. Should he have the ability to sit behind the seal of the President of the United States when he says he wants to terminate the Constitution of the United States? You know what that would mean? In the Constitution of the United States is your Fourth Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure? Your Fifth Amendment right? Your Sixth Amendment right to an attorney.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Well, a lot of rights will be going to First Amendment. But the First Amendment, the Second Amendment, look, I'm in favor of the Second Amendment. I don't believe we should be taking anybody's guns away. He wants to terminate the Constitution of the United States. He is the same one, like I said earlier, who denied rent to black families, who took out that full page ad in the New York Times calling for the execution of those children, who bertherism accusations against the first black president. Not to mention his... Please ask folks to Google Project 2025. He would get rid of the $35 a month cap on insulin. We know how many of
Starting point is 00:38:27 our seniors had it. I'll give you another example of why Donald Trump has not earned the support of folks to be president of the United States again. When he was president the last time, during the height of COVID, during the height of COVID, one in three Black Americans knew somebody who died from COVID. You remember those days? I do. And people couldn't get their hands on a COVID test? At that very same time, Donald Trump as president secretly sent COVID tests to the president of Russia for his personal use. While Americans were dying every day, he has not earned the right to be president of the United States. It's one thing if he has a television show that's very popular, he can put his name on a building, even though we
Starting point is 00:39:19 all know he was not a terribly good businessman, which is why he filed for bankruptcy six times. But that is one thing. To be President of the United States means to try and find common ground, to build consensus, to lift up the American people instead of trying to beat people down all the time. It means solving problems, which means you have to be able to get out of your own head and scan to be concerned about the well-being of other people and then do something about it. Does anyone think Donald Trump thinks that way? Yeah, well empathy requires you to divorce your own ego to see yourself as someone else. That's exactly right. That's exactly, and we know that's not his character. So it's about, is this the right person for that job?
Starting point is 00:40:07 Right? He said immigrants are taking black jobs. I don't know what those black jobs that they're taking. Can you elaborate on that? What the immigrants are taking? What black jobs are they? It's just another example of him trying to divide and him trying to scare people.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's just another example of him doing that, of him trying to say it's either you or them, right? And the other thing is that it's incredibly demeaning because, and he still has not been forced to define, Donald Trump, what do you define as a black job? Because let me tell you what I define as a black job, Vice President of the United States. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Right? It is. I don't know about the pay, but it's a good job to have. Well, you know, not everybody is Shannon Sharp. You know what I wanted to ask? You've been in, basically your adult life, you've been a public servant. Yes, I have. You've been AG. My whole adult life. You've been a DA. You've been a senator. You've been VP. Is that what you envisioned? Is that what you always wanted to be, was a public servant? I've always wanted to serve. You know, I was raised, I mean, back to whether you are, however you are raised in the community in which you are raised, including the church in which you are raised. I have always believed that it is an important pursuit to figure out how
Starting point is 00:41:29 you can serve. And we can do it in different ways, right? I chose public service. You chose a different route, but it's about service. And I have always, I mean, I've only had one client my entire life, the people. And what I, and the reason I keep doing it is because I know the difference that I and we can make when we believe in what is possible and then work hard at it. And my pledge in this campaign to everyone, regardless of who you are, where you live, what you look like, I will be a president for all Americans. And I will work to bring our country back together because frankly, I think people are exhausted with the anger, with the hate, with the division, the attempt to have Americans
Starting point is 00:42:18 pointing their fingers at each other. I think people are exhausted. It's not healthy for the productivity of our country. Like, do we want to strive? Do we want to thrive? Or do we want to spend full time with vengeance, demeaning other people? And living a life of service is about, I think, the importance of lifting people up, not tearing them down. My team here at CheChe Media is always growing and making moves. Sometimes it's a challenge to find qualified candidates, especially when I need them right away. Thankfully, there's a place you can go for help.
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Starting point is 00:43:55 I've read some blacks say the problem that they have to you is that you're making political promises and that you're just pandering. The problem that I have with that, it just seems like only black people pander. Like when other candidates go on shows and they say they're going to do this, they're not pandering. They're telling you, laying out their elaborate plan on what they're going to do. But it seems to you when you promise that if I'm president, this is what I'm going to do in the first 90 days. This is what I'm going to do. My administration is going to do while I'm in office.
Starting point is 00:44:26 You're pandering. How do you get through to those that says, look, this is what I'm going to do. If I'm elected president, these are the policies and they will lead to meaningful and impactful change? Well, part of it is just to be candid. I think that there's sadly misinformation out there about who I am and what I've done. Because if people are informed about fact, they will know that almost everything that
Starting point is 00:44:54 I'm talking about doing as president is built on a foundation of work that I've been doing for years. If it is about economic empowerment of the black community in all communities, I've been working on that. As vice president, I am responsible for billions of dollars from big banks and big corporations, including technology companies, getting into community banks to increase access to capital for minority-owned and other small businesses. If you look at my work over a period of years, my focus again on something like maternal mortality is long-standing, which directly impacts black men and black women. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:36 And the black family. If you look at the work that I am doing that is about small businesses, you know, the person who helped my mother raise us, who was a second mother to us, was a small business owner. I have always focused for such a long time on what we need to do, knowing that our small businesses are part of the culture of our communities, right, including the economic fabric and strength of the community. So what I'm talking about doing right now is based on longstanding work. It's not new. But as President of the United States, part of why it is important is it is a new approach to that job.
Starting point is 00:46:16 It is about a new way that is based on a new generation of leadership, that is based on new ideas, and and frankly a different experience that brings my commitment to the work I am talking about into being. Can you give us a breakdown of how you will allow blacks and other minorities to access capital? Because you speak a lot about capital and in order for people to become successful
Starting point is 00:46:41 and have some wealth, is that they need to have access to that to get started. Yeah, that's right. So that's in fact why I did starting last or earlier this year my economic opportunity toward way before I was running for president because I realized that so many of our entrepreneurs don't actually have the, we need to do better in getting information to people about what's available to them. So for example, through the Small Business Administration, there are funds available to help people create a business plan.
Starting point is 00:47:13 There is resources available to help people just know how that you need to run a payroll, how you need to pay business taxes. Part of my plan, by the way, is to simplify taxes for small businesses. I like to say it's basically, I'm going to date myself, like, you remember the 1048, did you ever have to do a 1048? Probably never. Okay, I did. But, you know, simplifying tax returns for people, including our small businesses.
Starting point is 00:47:41 But the work that I have done and will continue to do is about knowing that we don't lack for hard work, we don't lack for good ideas, but we do lack for information about the help that is available. So that's part of how it is going to be about increasing access to capital. Part of it is about putting more money. So I called up and got in touch with and worked with some of the big CEOs of the biggest corporations in America and said And the big banks that you all don't necessarily you you're not there in the community where you can get $100,000 loan to a small business you guys deal at a different level But those hundred thousand dollar loans for a startup will go a long way
Starting point is 00:48:22 Let's get get those billions of dollars that you've got, put them into community banks who are in the community, who know what the community needs, what they want, what the consumers there want, and then support those small businesses. So that's my approach to access to capital, including making sure that people have, again, simplifying taxes for small businesses. You know why Shannon? Small businesses can't afford to hire a bunch of accountants and a bunch of lawyers but that shouldn't be the reason they fail because they didn't fill out the form properly. Right? Yes. So my approach is really understanding the
Starting point is 00:49:02 the culture, understanding the needs and then trying to fix problems. I love fixing problems with common sense solutions. And again, look, Donald Trump is never going to relate necessarily to the kind of folks that I'm talking about who on the ground just need to be seen and heard, and then let's fix the problems. Let's address the challenges to let them not just get by, but get ahead. And I want to put a fine point on this.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Maybe it's a new perspective, I think it is. I believe that we have had great success in bringing black unemployment down to historic lows. Yes. But for me, that's a floor. For me, that's a floor. Because what I know is that it should be baseline that everybody's working.
Starting point is 00:49:49 That's not enough. People want to build wealth. Yes. And intergenerational wealth. Correct. And I want to help people do that, right? I know what folks wanna be able to take a nice vacation from time to have nice Christmas
Starting point is 00:50:05 gifts for their kids under the tree. And it can't just be about, well, you got a job, applaud me for what I've done for you. And that's the spirit with which I do my work. I saw President Trump on a TV show and he talked about defunding the Department of education. Yes. Basically, we know that's gonna affect communities like us that don't have the resources and then, because he says he doesn't, if they talked about slavery, if they talked about slavery, which is a part of our history, it's sustained. That they're trying to cover up.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yes. That they're trying to cover up. They're talking about racism and he said, well, what we would do if they talked about it they wouldn't get funding and we know what communities are going to be most impacted by non-funding. But and understand that they want to get rid of the Department of Education and get rid of Head Start. You know whose kids are in Head Start? They want to it is and to your point and I'm so glad you pointed this out, you know, these are the same people who basically suggested that enslaved people benefited from
Starting point is 00:51:13 slavery, the same people who are trying to ban and are banning books. And again, if we don't teach America's full history, we will never ensure that we don't make the same to do those same things again. Let's learn from that painful part of our history to make sure we don't repeat it. But by not covering it up, let's have an open and honest conversation about it. It happened. And the effects of it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And the present day effects of it. Yes, and the present-day effects of it I Think we both agree. I think we can all agree on this that there is a problem with I don't know how to the correct term I think it's undocumented. How do we get how do we get a hold on that? Madam VP, how do we make sure because I think I've heard you say you want a path to citizenship But we want to, you know, make sure people come in and do things properly. Yes, that's exactly right. So first of all, I have personally prosecuted transnational criminal organizations for the
Starting point is 00:52:14 trafficking of guns, drugs, and human beings. I have prosecuted the Sinaloa cartel, okay, the Guadalajara cartel. So I put my record up to anybody in terms of how strongly I feel about having a secure border and making sure that there is not that kind of trafficking into America. I also know that we need to put more resources at the border, which is why I supported a bill that came about, including from the most conservative members of Congress, to put 1,500 more border agents at the border, to do what we need to do to cut down the flow of fentanyl coming into the United States, which is killing people of every race and background.
Starting point is 00:52:59 More resources would have gone to prosecuting human trafficking. Donald Trump got word of that bill, and he knew it would be a solution to a problem, which is that we have a broken immigration system. He got word of the bill, and he told his friends in Congress, don't put it up for a vote, don't let it go any further. Because, you see, he wants to run on a problem instead of fixing a problem. And he's putting out tens of millions of dollars of campaign commercials full-time trying to suggest that he cares about strengthening the border when he had an opportunity to participate
Starting point is 00:53:34 in a solution, which he killed because he's not about problem-solving. It's about a political game for him. My point is we got to strengthen the border and we need to have an immigration system that is fair and humane and strong in terms of making sure that people have to earn citizenship, they have to work hard to get it. My plan includes also strengthening what we need to do in terms of illegal entry in between ports of entry, what we need to do to put more support for border patrol agents, put more technology at the border. But it includes also, you know, I'm never going to talk about people from Haiti eating
Starting point is 00:54:16 their pets. And I think that we also know we don't want an immigration system that's about separating children from their parents. We can do it in a humane way. But the bottom line is we can fix these problems. The solutions are at hand. He stands in the way, and in particular on this issue. If you were to become president, would you ask Congress to bring, re-institute that bill
Starting point is 00:54:42 and try to get it through? Absolutely. And also I would work across the aisle with Republicans. There are a lot of Republicans supporting me in this campaign. And I would work with Republicans to bring this bill back up so I can sign it into law. And I do want to talk about that for a moment. This is not 2016 or 2020 in terms of how people are thinking about Donald Trump. He was president and the people who worked the most closely with him, Republicans at the highest level, his former chief of staff, his former defense secretaries, his former national security advisor, and his former vice president,
Starting point is 00:55:24 have collectively said he is dangerous and unfit to be president in the United States and Shannon you can just watch his rallies. I mean, did you see that 39 minutes of him swaying back and forth? to YMCA No, the the man you have to watch and I encourage everybody who's watching this, watch what he's doing at these rallies. He is increasingly unstable and unfit to be president, according to the people who knew him best.
Starting point is 00:55:56 All Republicans, by the way, who I just referred to, who know he is unfit to be commander. He who will talk about service members. A lot of your listeners and the people who are a fan of your show have served or do serve in the United States military. He talks about military service members as being uncourageous, as being cowards, suckers and losers. This is how the man talks. And so let's not get distracted by
Starting point is 00:56:26 who he was on The Apprentice. Let's not get distracted by whatever, you know, building in whatever city in Vegas or wherever has his name on it. Let's look at the job of President of the United States and is he fit to do that job and by the people who know him best including some most recently a four-star Marine general his former chief of staff they all say those who know him best he is unfit and dangerous the previous administration your administration that you were in, they got kudos for the student loan relief. Yeah. What's the contingency plan? Because I see it's still trying to go through and some of the courts have shot it down. Do you have a contingency
Starting point is 00:57:15 plan to continue the student relief? I'm going to keep fighting for it. And yes, because first of all, what I know is that too many people have been weighed down by their student loan debt to the point they question whether they can have a family, whether they can retire at some point, whether they can buy a home. So that's why I pushed for what we did around student loan debt. And thankfully, for example, we have billions of dollars in student loan debt reliefs that have gone, for example, to public servants, like teachers and nurses and firefighters. But there's more we need to do.
Starting point is 00:57:51 But if I go into various communities like here in Atlanta and ask people how many people got their student debt relieved, the number of hands that go up and the life-changing experience people have had reminds me of the importance of this fight and I'm going to continue to do it. Have you let people know that President Trump, if he were to get back in office, he wants to offer police complete immunity? That they can do no wrong, no matter what, how egregious the act may be, they have complete immunity.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Do people understand what that means? Do they really understand what that means, Madam VP? I hope so. And I encourage people to go online to see how he says it. I encourage people to go online to see how he talks about a day of violence. Did you ever see the movies? Yeah, I heard? Right. Understand. Again, don't take my word for it.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Take his. Yeah. Take his and see where he stands on these issues. I want to get you out of here on this one, Madam VP. You, like myself, attended and graduated from a historically black institution. Proudly. And it just goes to show you, if you look at myself, Stephen A, Michael Strahan, three of the most prominent voices in morning television, attended and graduated from an HBC, yourself ascended to the highest of highs, graduated from an HBCU. What would you, what message would you like to share with students at all these historically
Starting point is 00:59:23 black universities and colleges? What would you like, what message would you like to share with students at all these historically black universities and colleges? What message would you like to share with them? Oh, know your excellence. And know we are so proud of you and we want you to have ambition. We applaud your ambition. We want you to know you can do and be anything and don't ever hear no. And that no, you stand on broad shoulders, right?
Starting point is 00:59:50 Because part of what we know is we have a legacy. Yeah, we do. And we stand then in that path knowing that we also have the honor and the duty of excelling in every way possible, being able to see what is possible and not be burdened by other people's limited ability to see the same. One more thing, I think something that's very, very near and dear to your heart is Roe v. Wade. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:17 I think 50 plus years, I think 72, 73 when it was Roe v. Wade said, hey, women have the right to their bodies. And all of a sudden, the Supreme Court struck it down and says, no, you don't. We have control over that. What would that mean to you? So how do you get that? How do you go back and fight to make sure women still have control of their bodies? So I'm so glad you brought up, Shannon.
Starting point is 01:00:40 First of all, think about one of the most basic rights that you could imagine is the right for you to be able to make decisions about your own body. Correct. Your own body. Your reproductive rights. And the court just took that right away from women to make decisions about their own body and not have their government tell them what to do.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And I think an important emphasis for me is you don't have to give up your faith or deeply held beliefs on this subject to agree the government shouldn't be telling her what to do. If she chooses, she'll talk with her pastor, her priest, her rabbi, her imam, but not the government telling her. And we need to fight against this. We need to understand how many women are suffering miscarriage and being denied help because the doctors are afraid they may land up in jail. In Texas, do you know they provide prison for life for doctors or nurses who provide reproductive care?
Starting point is 01:01:36 Prison for life, Shannon. In the state of Georgia, a beautiful young woman, a mother of a six-year-old son, died because of these Trump abortion bans. The majority of black women and the men who love them live in the South. Yes. Do you know in every state in the South except for Virginia, there is a Trump abortion ban? Yes, I do. Hopefully everybody else knows that also. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And so we all have to stand, regardless of your gender, regardless of your race, your background, we have to stand and say, look, this is just simply not right and we cannot stand for the notion that Donald Trump could be President of the United States, he who chose a Supreme Court that would take this right from the women of America and the men who love them. And now we have women suffering to such an extent as they are. I think it's one of the most fundamental rights that's at play. One more thing before you go, Madam VP. Yes. Who's the real
Starting point is 01:02:46 H.U.? Oh come on. I'm just asking. I didn't want to know. I don't know. I didn't go to either one so I just I just wanted to hear you. You know. Madam VP, Kamala Harris. Thank you all. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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