Club Shay Shay - Karlous Miller Part 1

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

In the latest episode of Club Shay Shay, Shannon Sharpe welcomes the hilarious Karlous Miller, a standout comedian of his generation. Known for his incredible improvisational skills, Karlous has taken the comedy scene by storm, performing to sold-out crowds across the nation and internationally. As a co-host and creator of the hit podcast and improv show 85 South, which debuted at number one on Netflix, he brings a unique blend of humor and insight to the conversation. Join Shannon and Karlous as they dive into his roots in Oxford, Mississippi, where he grew up in a lively family of eight siblings. Karlous reflects on the joys and challenges of being the eldest sibling, sharing how his upbringing shaped his comedic voice. The duo shares laughs as Karlous recounts his early days in the entertainment industry, from his brief stint as a firefighter to his journey through various jobs that helped him hone his craft. Karlous opens up about his swift transition to comedy just weeks after moving to Atlanta, performing at the iconic Twisted Taco and quickly immersing himself in the city’s nightlife. His stories are filled with warmth and laughter, touching on everything from the adrenaline rush of performing live to delivering pizza to football legends like Eli Manning. Shannon and Karlous share a humorous exchange on modern dating, debating the acceptability of going Dutch and reflecting on changing expectations in romance. They discuss the best places to meet partners, agreeing that work complicates things and that online dating isn’t for everyone. Karlous emphasizes traditional dating etiquette, insisting that men should always pay on the first date—a non-negotiable for him—while noting how dating expectations have shifted over time. Karlous shares his journey from growing up watching iconic comedy shows like Def Comedy Jam and Comic View to becoming a recognized figure in the comedy scene. He discusses the influence of Jamie Foxx and how comedians can leverage television opportunities to showcase their versatility and connect with audiences on a deeper level, emphasizing the importance of showing various layers beyond just comedy. Karlous also reflects on his experiences working with prominent figures in the industry, including Mo'Nique and Keenen Ivory Wayans, highlighting the balance of respect and assertiveness that defines successful collaborations. He candidly shares insights into his path on Last Comic Standing, revealing that, despite its competitive nature, he found value in simply being part of the experience rather than focusing solely on the prize. #volume  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

DC went through something he lost the mother of his kids How were you able to be there for a friend to let him know bro? I can't even imagine the pain that you're going through But I just want you to know that I'm here for you if you ever need me man That was that crap more than he did. I don't know what to say, but I'm here I don't have no words if you need anything if you need me to go pick these kids up every day if you need me to whatever you need I'm extending myself to you that would really that caught everybody off guard That's why all my life I been grinding all my life All my life, been grinding all my life Sacrificed, but so pay the price

Want a slice, got to roll a dice That's why all my life I been grinding all my life Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Cheche. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Cheche. The guy that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today is is one of the funnest comedians of his generation. He performed to sold out crowds nationwide and internationally. The maestro of improvisation. He's one of the hosts and creators of the hit podcast Improv Show 85 South,

which debuted number one on Netflix. A popular and talented stand-up comedian, an actor, rapper, podcaster, writer, entertainer, host extraordinaire, a versatile performer, a fan favorite, a force to be reckoned with in the entertainment industry, he's fearless, the hilarious, K. Carlos Miller. Hey, hey, hey, hey, what's up, what's up? What do you do? Man, chilling, man.

Yo, lady, this man told me, oh, we gonna start at 10 o'clock. What time is it? Man, it's about 10 something. It's about 10 something. 10 something to 12? It's about 10 something, man. What you tellin' these people this?

Oh, by bad, by bad, by bad. He was on time, he was on time. I was on time, I was in wardrobe. We'll get my together. This man told me he in wardrobe, he got a sweater on and some plaques. Bro, I brought some of my cognac hair band for you because bro what you've been able to do Coming from Oxford, Mississippi. We're gonna talk we go talk. We're gonna talk about off of Mississippi Y'all ain't blow it man DK from Oxford. Okay, you a DK.

DK Metcarrin from Oxford, man. You gonna leave me draggin' poppin'? Nah, absolutely not, man. Hey, you got your own, got your own yak. We gonna send you with a bottle too. I need some, man, cause hey, you know what's gonna be comin' on here? Cuttin' up.

What's gonna be cuttin' up on here? They blamin' this old 2024 on your show. That's what they said. Man. I ain't do nothin' though. Hey. I just asked a question. Hey. You gonna cut they said. Man. I ain't do nothing though. Hey. I just asked a question. Hey.

You gonna cut up? They said you had something to do with it. Very little. That's smooth. I thought we was gonna sip. No, we just gonna knock that on out, man. Well, I'm gonna sip. I ain't gonna, cause I won't be able

to finish this interview. Is this live? We on live? Yeah! Yeah! That's bad. He gonna go ahead and knock this interview. Is this live? We on live? Yeah! He gon' go ahead and knock this out. You been on live going crazy, you showing out, man. Yeah, I did. Before we even get into it, I'm gonna tell you why.

Yeah, I had to anticipate being this kind of part of 24. Man, yeah, you showed out on 24. You all on live with it. Bad. You trended. I know you ain't seen none of this. I saw, unfortunately, no, I hadn't seen that part. I heard about that part.

I don't need to see it. I'm telling you, they going crazy over there. I was out there bad. You trending and everything. I ain't trending. You ain't seen the trending talk, we to see it. I'm telling you they going crazy over there. I was out there bad. You trending and everything I ain't trending. You ain't see the trending talk. Talk her through it. Mm-hmm. Yeah, they showing out. Miss beating asses and hitting me Tell me what's up with her and everything. Oh, she hit you? I know her. You know her? Yeah Since you said her name she been trying to reach back. You ain't caught none of her traction though I ain't caught none of it. Take her shopping or something. Grocery shopping?

No. Oh. Spend some of that NFL money on her, man. I ain't got no NFL money. I'm 20 years past that, Carlos. You ain't spent all that NFL money. No, I ain't spent it all. You ain't spent, you from small town,

George Sterling, let you spend all that money, man. He did. Let's talk about your upbringing. Grew up in Oxford, Mississippi. Obviously, University of Mississippi is located there, so that's a college town. So what was Carlos growing up in Oxford, Mississippi like? Man, it was always a constant hustle, man.

You know, Ole Miss was right there, so it's so many things that I got into, like selling drinks at the game, you know, breaking down tents, parking, construction. I stepped there from the country, so we always had something to do, you know what I'm saying? So you always had a hustle going on, even as a child. Absolutely. So when I got into the comedy game and I started getting my foot in the

entertainment industry, you know, I parlayed that into the 85 South Show, to my own studio, into things like that. So that's where the grind comes from. That's where the entrepreneurship comes from. So when you were growing up, what did you want to be growing up? I mean, you doing had all these odd and end jobs. Like you said, you're selling drinks

at the football stadium. You're breaking down tents. You're doing all these things. What did you want to be when you grew up? I think I always wanted to be a comedian, but since it's such a small town in Mississippi, I've never seen anybody in the entertainment world. So I didn't know that that was.

That was impossible. Yeah, something you could make a living doing. Right. So, did you play sports growing up? Played some sports. You were, because DK is from Oxford also. Did you know DK growing up? Absolutely, bro.

DK used to live right across the street from my auntie. I used to see him every day when he was a little boy. He used to just be standing in the screen door, back and forth, throwing the football. His pops played football and was a dog. He was offensive lineman if I'm not mistaken. Absolutely, like one of the first round draft picks out of Ole Miss.

So Terrence Metcalfe, he was a dog, bro. So yeah, I played a little sport, did a little running, a little cross country. I've been this size forever. So once you get hit by somebody who you know going to the league, you pretty much give up on all that. So you like gave it like, you know what? I ain't gonna get much bigger than this.

Ain't no sense in me. Yeah, I was way better at talking. Way better at comedy than any sport I ever played. You have eight brothers and sisters so what was it like growing up in a family of that size? It was dope because it's the country. Everybody is at grandma's house and everybody getting the same ass whooping. It was just dope being from a big family like that. All my brothers are huge. Where do you fall in the pecking order? You the oldest, you in the middle? You at the end? I'm the

oldest. You the oldest? Of eight? Yeah man. Well you had it because you basically you like the second father because you got to make sure all the the younger ones stay in line because if they get out of line they're gonna blame you because you the oldest when you know better. But you gotta keep in mind all my brothers are over six feet tall. Oh. So I'm not a little sister bigger than me. I'm the oldest. So you can't tell nobody what to do. I'm the oldest, but I'm the smallest.

Exactly. My mother had better insurance by the time she had them. Oh. Ha ha ha ha. Now, high school. So were you always a class clown? Were you always a comedian? Were you always trying to be funny or this something that you kind of developed as you you you aged in the beginning?

It's not like you're trying to be funny. Like I was dead-ass serious But I'm reading but it's funny so like I never really got in trouble for being funny Right, so that was that that was the real launch pad. All my teachers used to let me just wow and talk. Cause they knew I was gonna do my work. So how old were you when you left Oxford? What made you decide to say, you man, I like Oxford, my family's here,

but I need to get out of here if I'm gonna do what I wanna do? What made me leave? My dad used to live in Atlanta. So he's always come to Atlanta. So it was always like my second home. And then I got this job. I was a firefighter, for real, for real.

Hold on, you were a firefighter. You went to school, you went to trade and everything. Absolutely. It was a dope ass job until we had a real fire and then I quit. Definitely not a hit one. You didn't quit on the job. You waited till you got put the fire out

and got everybody out, then you quit. I kinda quit on the job, you waited until you got put the fire out and got everybody out, then you quit. I kind of quit on the job. How the hell that work? The chief came to me like, knows we got to go in and I didn't want to go in the fire so I was like, I'm not going in there. You do realize that's a part of being a firefighter, you got to run in today. We was going to fight fire from the outside, like we was just going to fight it.

So y'all, you go use the water hole, you gonna spray it from outside? I never thought about going in the fire. And once I found out we had to go in, when we got back to the station, he was like, I feel like we're gonna have to let you go. And I was like, I feel the same way. I definitely been signed up for shit like this. Hell no, ain't no hero.

I feel like I quit, but you can let me go. Yeah, you can let me go. You can let me go. I completely understand. So that didn't work out. Then I drove some trucks for a little bit, and then I was just like. You had a CDL?

Yeah. But damn, you done had a whole lot of jobs. I told you I'm a hustler. I'm just trying to figure out what made you decide that you wanted to be a firefighter, though? Nothing. You just had some time on your hands. I had some extra time and I went

and I passed a little physical test. Okay. And they kept calling me back and then they gave me the job and I was like, boy, y'all are triple. I'm definitely not built for this. Okay, you also were a piece of delivery driver. Absolutely. Now that really, that was were a pizza delivery driver. Absolutely.

Now that really, that was one of those jobs that was fun. And it really helped me jump the comedy off because I met a lot of people and they used to always just like call me to come and turn the party up and talk and rap and all that. So that was really how I built before social media. That was before I... So when you drop off the pizza to the customers,

were you joking with them then? A lot of them guys, like, it was like Deuce McAllister. He used to order a lot of pizzas. He ended up playing in the NFL for a long time. And then I met Eli Manning, used to order a lot of pizzas. So it was just a lot of of I met a lot of people I had a lot of partners who played football So I knew everybody on the at Ole Miss and we just just go kick it and talk and I was always known as that guy

Now I read the story that You have a partner that that deliver pizza that got robbed by a little person was that you or your partner? No, that was my partner Roy. He got robbed by a little person. Absolutely that you or your partner? No, that was my partner Roy. He got robbed by a little person? Absolutely. How'd he get a drop on him? I don't know the details of this story, but once he was describing it, like the person telling me,

it was like, bro, we in a small town. We in Oxford. I know exactly who robbed you, but I couldn't tell him. It ain't but one of them in a small town. It's two, and then they got a few sisters, so I know the sisters didn't do it. You got it. Yeah.

Yeah, man, it's wild times out the old man. You moved to Atlanta. How soon did you hit the comedy stage once you got to Atlanta? I think it was maybe three weeks to a month started hitting this spot called Twisted Taco me and my man Clayton English and that was in 05 I've been doing it ever since okay yeah do you remember so that was was that the main reason that you left Oxford was to come to Atlanta to do comedy because that's the biggest Atlanta is the biggest city in the surrounding the southeast so you figure like you know what if I can if I go to Atlanta that's probably biggest, Atlanta's the biggest city in the South East.

So you figure like, you know what, if I go to Atlanta, that's probably where I'm gonna get my big break. Man, once you hit Atlanta and you see that nightlife, you just kind of find any kind of way to get there. To stay here. Man, there was so much going on in Atlanta. It was Magic City Mondays and Big Meats was still out and everything was for sale.

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Did you get booed? Did you like the adrenaline rush that you got from being on stage, telling jokes and people laughing? What was that experience like? I don't want you to think I? Did you get booed? Did you like the adrenaline rush that you got from being on stage, telling jokes and people laughing? What was that experience like? I don't want you to think I've been nowhere getting booed. I definitely wasn't getting booed. You ain't never got booed? No, I ain't been doing nothing. None of that. None of that. I'm dead ass serious when I go on stage. I'm playing, but I'm serious. Right. Yeah. So the first time that I hit it, the, uh, the, uh,

the adrenaline rush hit me and I was was like, oh, this it. Because we went a couple weeks before we actually got on stage, signed up. And then we saw a few casts, and then it's like, man, I can do this shit. And then I got on, and it's just been a rap ever since. Never got off. How did growing up in Oxford prepare you?

Because Oxford is a little different than Atlanta, especially when you broke your ass there. Exactly. Everybody in Oxford is funny. Everybody. I'm talking about we got some of the best talkers in the world in Oxford, Mississippi. So it was a lot of pressure on that to be like, I got to talk better than the best shit

talker that I know. So that was a real pressure for me. Did talking, you know, ish growing up, did that prepare you? Because it's different talking going back and forth with somebody in the barbershop, or standing on the block going back and forth with somebody. Now you gotta do a set, you gotta do 15 minutes,

you gotta do 30 minutes. How different was it for you to like, okay, I'm good at making people laugh, but I gotta make people laugh for 30 minutes now? Putting it all together Yeah, hard part and having a you know, just having enough to talk about was Was the challenge right putting it together?

Timing it out like and then you got to include the last. So I went on stage maybe for the first year to Just like figuring it out You know I'm saying I have a little set list of jokes or something like that that I wanted to try out, what worked, what didn't, but you don't never scratch nothing. You just gotta find a way to make all the fun. Make it all the funny. Yeah.

So some people say, who was I talking to? I think it was Dion Cole said that he don't write anything. No, Marlon Wayans. Say, I don't write no jokes down. I just go up there and I just go. You said that you have't write anything, no Marlon Wayans. Say I don't write no jokes down, I just go up there and I just go. You said that you'd like have a little set, but how much do you write down or do you have an idea in your mind like okay,

I'm going with this, this, this, this, and this tonight? I would probably say, I break mine down in the segment. I probably have like a fourth of something that I wrote or something that I thought was funny. Then some of that you just gotta say it first. Then some of it is something that I wrote or something that I thought was funny mm-hmm then some of that you just got to say it first right then some of it is something that you may be working on that you know you just tooling up so you got one two three then you just leave room for some and pray but some some comedians they have the voice like like a D.I. Cole or

Marlon Wayans or Corey Hogan they can tell you sometimes it's better to just say it and do it right then write it Right. Yeah Hey, I don't obviously you know that absolutely You got the comedy world and shambles right now, but it's man But that interview was explosive. Can I before we get back to this? people got upset with me because Cat put a spotlight, like everybody telling jokes, everybody ain't friends.

Everybody that's telling jokes, and so I think he put a spotlight on something that a whole lot of people didn't know, and maybe a lot of comedians didn't want people to know. So they upset at Cat for opening Pandora's box. Did you know, you're in this arena, did you know it was like that, that so many comedians kinda like beefing,

I mean, not all, but there's this kinda animosity, this kinda beef between certain comedians? Yeah, but it's in-house. It was nothing that he said that I didn't, I've never heard of. You already knew, okay. But it was mostly like, that that's comedy club green room back room That's that's between us. Yeah, so when he put it out in the public and you know for him to be as big of a star

As he is ain't nobody get a chance to rebuttal right and plus It's hard when you come on a show like this and you talk and then your house ain't clean right you give him saying So I don't think that that's over you don't I'm saying? So I don't think that that's over. You don't think it's over? I don't think that that's over. It's a few comedians that really, they really upset about that. Oh yeah.

Steve Harvey not playing about that? Yeah. earthquake mad about that. Ricky Smiley had just lost his son, right? Right. Like right around that time. So he took it a whole nother way. I had Ricky on, I had Sid on, I had Steve on. L'Oreal.

L'Oreal, yeah. L'Oreal came on after Kat. Yeah, they went back and forth a bit. But for me, I don't understand, it's just my platform. Like, you and I talking, if you say something I don't know what you're gonna say. Why people get mad at me for what Carlos say? I don't know. I don't know but see Kat he he's not around the comedy world. No no no no he's to himself. He always been to himself so a lot of comedians felt like well maybe he's'd been sitting on that Maybe he'd been riding around all these years and been one to say it and just didn't have time to say it but

To his defense a lot of people have said a lot of stuff about him that we never said back So I guess it was just the build-up of him getting his get back, right? I ain't mad at either side I get it. But it's still a lot of shit about him that people gonna say. That people may have forgot about. He called a lot of, he got a lot of heat. He did. Yeah.

What was your big break? When did Carlos get that big break and was like, you know what, I'm here. I don't know if it is a big break. I think you just work and then you save up some bread and then you're like, up some bread and nobody came here had me no big check i had to pull up a bunch of little check together i'm waiting on the big break shit i'm trying to see what you want what you done turnt down you ain't got you ain't got

going on i ain't got nothing going on man i ain't got nothing going on hey man send me some bad I got done going on bad. I got done going on. Hey man, send me some bad shit. Ain't no big break. I work every week. I'm working every weekend. I'm still looking for it. What's some of the best advice comedians have given you? Because you're in this arena now. You traveled weekend during the week and so obviously you come in contact with a lot of guys that's been doing this a lot longer than you and some are probably a little bit more successful than you although you're on your way and you're trying to get to that level of success what's some of the best advice comedians have shared with you? Be funny you be funny everything like if you're a comedian and you're funny everything else

will find you like the money will come the success will come the fame will come just be funny. Did you know you can make this kind of money be on a comedian? Because I hear this kind of money. Well, I mean, I mean, I mean, the way they be talking, they be making like, like six figures. Only six? Don't see that's what I'm saying.

What, damn. And they cheating. They only get six. They only got six. No, but I'm saying, I mean, you do it. That ain't enough. Six a night, that ain't a six. A night? That ain't enough for a night?

Six. Seven? Six. Eight? You mean like for a year? No, I'm talking about I can't live on six. No, no, no, hell no.

I can't live on six. Not for no year. Not for no year. Obviously you doing, let me ask you a question. How many days a year you say you tour? That you in the club? In the club, what is it, 52 weeks a year? 52 weeks.

I probably do, I might do 40. 40. 45. 45. It depends, bro. Because sometimes it depends on what we had in the country, bro. Like when shit be crazy, it's the best time for convenience. Like it's a lecture year.

People need them less. So are you doing two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, or you doing one show Friday, one show Saturday, two shows Sunday? I usually do eight shows a weekend. And then three days in the weekend? Add it up. What the hell?

When you good, they'll come see you, it don't matter. I can do a show at four o'clock in the afternoon and sell it out. I can do a four o'clock. I could do a show at four o'clock in the afternoon and sell it out For I do a four o'clock seven o'clock at nine o'clock I'm feeling real freaky. I thought I thought a late show on there. It really just depends on the city How you? Bro To keep that kind of energy because I know you don't want to shortchange anybody You want the people that came in you want the people that came at four o'clock to

feel they got the same show as the people that came at seven nine or if you had the late the midnight show so you don't want to shortchange anybody how do you keep that level of energy up to like I got to stay here for basically eight ten hours I can't tell you everything now because there's gonna be somebody watching this show trying to steal the whole sauce. The whole sauce, man. Okay, but the way that you can do that and keep it fresh, you gotta make sure you got your routine,

you gotta eat right, you gotta get you some rest. You might have to get on live for a little bit. Ah damn, go to death. You might have to get on live for a little bit. Aw damn, go sit down. You might have to get on live for a little bit. You ain't on live like that. Come on now, come on now. You owned your MTV, your mama. What was that experience like?

How did that come about? I looked at it, like in hindsight, I should have looked at it as a little bit more of an opportunity, but I was looking at that like a check for right then okay Because when I was doing it and I was going through the process man, I was like this ain't really But it was dope man Wilma Valderrama Wilma Valderrama

Yeah, but it was dope It was just one of those things that I got to do early in my career. And get on TV, man. Anytime you get on TV as a comedian, you gotta parlay that until your live shows and sell some tickets. So anytime you get on a big platform, MTV, Your Mama, or Hell Date or something like that,

you gotta make sure that you got a great show to follow that up, because people gonna come see you. Yeah. And once you get them in there, you sell them a good show, you got them. Do you think about, cause you see a lot of comedians and we go way, you can go way back.

You can go back to Richard Pryor, you go back to Red Fox, you go back to Eddie and Martin and all these guys. Is TV, is that kind of like movies? Is that kind of your thing is that kind of Where Carlos once would like to hear absolutely? Absolutely, it's like movies and TV. I look at them like totally separate. Okay, like movies That's something where you can get a big check but when you go TV and they see you on the regular and they get to see you be

diverse and you get to bring your characters and voices and you be diverse and you get to bring your characters and the voices and and your slapstick comedy I think the TV is the package that where it's like if you get on there on the regular and you stay on that right That's where you can really make some bread it Because you can do that you can do that TV show and then go straight because you can take those and then go straight Straight to the hit the road. Absolutely, but I like TV because it's just people get to see more layers. You know, comedians, all comedians can either do like some voices or like impressions or serious drama. Right.

I love to see comedians get like roles where they don't have nothing to do with comedy. And then they just kill it like Jamie Foxx. Jamie Foxx. Yeah. You can parlay that however you want to. You was also on the Monique show. What's it like working with her?

Because Monique, you know, a lot of the things she talks to, she's difficult to work with, I had on the show and she was great. She ain't difficult to work with, she just ain't to be played with. That's the difference to Monique. She's going to stand up for what she believes in. She's not going to let you talk to her crazy. She's not going to be making demands. It's like she a boss. And it's the difference between being a boss and an employee.

When you hire Monique, you get the whole Monique. But you don't get to tell her what to do. And that's another conflict that comedians have. Sometimes they hire us to talk. And then they don't want to hear it. They think they can control what we're going to say. It don't work like that. It don't work like that Absolutely. Okay, you was on comic view. Yeah

How was that experience? It was dope. That was one of those shows that I grew up watching. I would have did that for free You give what I'm saying just to put my name on the wall like that I did Def Connerty Jam too when they brought it back So all of those shows that I got to be a part of that was part of my journey, anytime they call them I always do them. Was that all, I mean obviously when you see those,

you see Def Comedy Jam, you see Comic View, was that always a goal of yours to get on those shows? It was a dream, because like I said, I didn't know that it was achievable. I thought when you were a comedian that, you know what I mean, it was somewhere that you went to become a comedian. Right. All these people were funny. Like how did they get that good? So I just be at the crib watching that every night like man that's just that's dope how you could just turn your

personality into your job. Right. But as a child did you uh did you write jokes? Did you write anything that you thought was funny? You just made light of situations that you saw kids, you know Maybe weren't as smart as you or just you know, something, you know, they walked a little funny They were a little slow. They was in a clay a grade that you know, they started out together Did a couple years later they they still in that same classroom and you don't move don't a couple of grades Did you did you did you make fun of kids? I made fun of everybody but I I used to cuss a lot.

You used to cuss a lot as a kid? I was the cussing ass kid. Like from the time I learned how to talk, I used to cuss. Your parents let you get away with that? It's not necessarily getting away with it, but sometimes you gotta weigh the risk and the reward. Sometimes that ass whooping was worth it. Da, da, da, da.

Hell, da. Yes, it was. It was. It was. It was, man. I used to get in trouble for cussing all the time. Right. I had one coach when I was in middle school, junior high, sixth grade to eighth grade.

It don't matter what day it was or where I was, he caught me cussing every day. Coach Terry, Coach Terry, it was like, as soon as I get through cuss I turn around he's right there. Man. So that was that was that was pretty much my thing growing up as a kid, bro. I used to always be the one like man, it's up and then they'd be like call up said so. You know last comic standing. Oh, yeah.

Did you what because if I'm not mistaken, Keenan Ivey Williams was a judge, Amy Schumer was a judge. Yeah. What did you learn from that experience? Not to listen to Amy Schumer. Ah! Ha ha ha! Why she on there giving advice?

She didn't win? Ha ha ha! Is that what you did, Amy? I'm not listening to you. Ha ha ha! Because you've been on these I'm not listening to you. Because you've been on these shows, I mean, you've been on a lot of high profile shows, I mean. So your name has been out there. Carlos, it's not like you've been, you know,

you on the chilling circuit and nobody know who you are. You put your name at the forefront. So you kind of had a name even before you became this. Sometimes. See, some of these shows, shows right like you need the chilling circuit. Yeah. Because black people make you famous and then white people make you rich. So if I wasn't good at making black people laugh they wouldn't have no interest in bringing

me to these platforms. Correct. And then sometimes you get on these platforms and they be great opportunities, but they don't be paying and that make me lose all interest in them. So you need to get a check to be free? Because I'm grinding. I'm over here in the hood. Right. And you know you might get a call from the street dude, big baby, he got you in Greenwood, South Carolina at his cousin's spot but he got that big show money. Yeah. And they love you love you enough right and the show might not start the one o'clock in the morning We drink good club straight shake baby. They handed you 3500 But then you go and they want you to do six weeks of TV Yeah

Had you won Yeah, you ain't making, then you gotta pay taxes on it. Had you won, how different would your life have been had you won last Comic Standing? It wouldn't have been too different. 250,000 dollars wouldn't have changed you? Nah, I would have messed that money up. So it would have changed you. I would have messed that money up. You would have jacked that money off.

I'm so glad I ain't get that money right then, cause my momma had just passed, so you know I'm dealing with the ain't get that money right then. Yeah. Cause my mama had just passed. So you know I'm dealing with the sadness and the depression. Then you gonna throw some money on top of that. I probably wouldn't even be here right now. I would've messed that money up way too quick. Probably would've caught a charge. You went on hell date.

So you, like I said, you stay on TV, Carlos. I'm grinding. I'm grinding. Let me ask you a question. How do these opportunities, you have a manager, like I got somebody that I think would be perfect for this because you are a showman. You know how to get in front of the cameras and that's a part of it. Knowing how to play to the cameras, knowing how to play to a crowd.

Everybody can't do that. There are a lot of people that can be funny but they don't know how to play to a crowd, play to a camera especially because when that red dot go on, that's a whole different animal. Right, and plus, the comedy that you're selling to like a mainstream TV audience, it's different than what you can just really just rock when it ain't nothing. Right.

But I do got a dope team. My manager, she been in the game for a long time. She's been around all the big stars. Me and Dave Chappelle got the same manager. Okay. Ricky Hughes, she been in the game for a long time. She's been around all the big stars. Me and Dave Chappelle got the same manager. Okay. Ricky Hughes. She dope as hell. Right. So you know, I wanted to get somebody who, who knew the comedy world, but also knew the business side of it. So if she working with Dave Chappelle, who's one of the top comedians of this whole generation is like, she can go over there and she got time to deal with with me and all this shit I got going on.

I know that it's coming from a great place. You know, a lot of times people don't want someone that big because you're like, man, you got Chappelle, you ain't got no time for me. You ain't gonna put no time in me. Cause you got Chappelle and he all over, I mean, he's selling, he got Netflix specials and he all over, he can put his stuff up and it's gone.

And so when you gonna have a little time for little Carlos, but I'm living in the dream, right? No, I'm saying like you you've been a professional athlete, you know what it's like. It's a job Mm-hmm, but man you used to love to put that down Baltimore Raven. Oh, yeah, just being there just Right you give what I'm saying? So man, I'm in the moment. That was some more great advice that I got. Man, make sure you find time to enjoy it too. Can you? Absolutely, absolutely.

Cause I can honestly say, Carlos, I don't really know if I really, I enjoyed the journey. Really? Even though I was headed to a destination. I think that's the fun part about me is that the journey that I was on, but I didn't have time to think about it. I didn't get chance because I was afraid I was going to get caught up and it was going to distract me and I wasn't going to be as focused.

I wasn't going to be as hungry. I was not going to be as driven in order to finally get to that destination. If I didn't do what I needed to do. So I don't know if I necessarily enjoyed it, even though I was on that journey. I don't know if I enjoyed it until I stepped away from it. You still enjoying it. You still enjoying it. No, I'm talking about the football. Man, if it wasn't for the football, there ain't no club shake shit. I know, but I didn't enjoy it when I was doing it. So you say you enjoy it as the process

is happening. Absolutely Cuz it's like like you said Right, you know, I'm waiting to see me back in the crib I told you When you were on hell date, man, cause that's a lot of, this relationship thing because, and we gonna talk about the 50-50 and what it takes about on the first date and how much you spend on the first date.

So let me ask you this. What's the appropriate place to take someone on the first date? How much is the appropriate amount to spend on the first date, how much is the appropriate amount to spend on the first date? That's a tricky question. You always gotta come with the mulligans. It ain't no set amount.

How much do you like her? What's your budget? See man, we lose because we don't plan enough. If you plan the date, you can plan within your own budget. Right. So if you take her somewhere that you can afford, that you plan, it's gonna make it look like you had this whole thing laid out.

What if you pull up to the place and she like, she don't get out the car. You gotta act like you excited. You gotta play it up. I heard so much about it. I heard the food is good. You gotta act like you ain't You gotta play it up. I heard so much about it. I heard the food is good. You gotta act like you ain't never been nothing before. What happened to game?

What happened to game? What happened to game? Why did this get so complicated? Right. Man, if you a dude, you make a thousand dollars a week, that's how much fun you gonna have. You gonna have fun, you gonna have $1,000 worth of fun. With the fun, right.

If you got a million dollars, you gonna have a million dollars worth of fun. And everything that fall in between that, that's just what it is. But what if you make $1,000 a week, but she wasn't the most $2,500? She make $2,500? Yeah, she used to like $2,500,

she got a $2,500 budget. Hey man. That's what we went wrong at. She used to like 25, she got a $2,500 budget. Amen. That's where we went wrong. A lot of dudes out here dating women that don't like them. If she already like you, it don't matter where you go. But you know, we like to outpour our coverage. We like to get what we think we don't supposed to have. I don't.

Don't do. I don't. I'm not even pursuing. If you don't already like me, we not going nowhere anyway. But hold on, hold on, Carlos. You got to like me immediately. But I'm saying, but you got to go interview. I mean, look, I know you Carlos Miller. They know you Carlos Miller.

But I mean, you got to do a little court. You got to like, hey, how you doing? What's your name? I'm such and such. I'm sure. No, I don't. That's the problem right there. Where you meet me? Where are they? Man, meeting them.

That's what I'm telling you. I'm not meeting nobody. They meet me. Well, I'm not using your fame right now. Give me a pen. I'm not starting to write these jokes. Fame right now. I'm going to start writing these jokes If that's what they do it they come out there like that You got three four NFL announcing job

You six feet plus you got muscles and you rich You know how many women already like you man, I'm from the old school. You know you, hey, how you doing? I'm sure. Man, the old school, they done told old, ain't no old school. They know they new now. Hell no. Hell no.

Man, you crazy as hell. We gonna link on social media. I'll just send you some. Okay. They be down here. You ain't gonna go, you don't know, when you going on Club Che Che? Look, I don't got nobody business to tell.

They ain't gonna call me. They ain't got nothing but good shit, look, I don't got nobody business to tell. They ain't gonna call me. They ain't got nothing but good shit to say. I don't hate nobody. I'm friends with it. I'm too cool. They don't need me. Right. So what about 50-50?

You go out on the day, if you take the, if you discuss this, say, okay, if the man asked the lady out, he's supposed to pay. If she asked him out, is she supposed to pay? Are we going 50-50? How does it work? No. You old school. When it come to that, yeah. Take it later you definitely got to pay. Right. Because you can't go half with her then ask her for something

later on. You can't. But you, hold on, you can't. You can't ask it the first night though, Carlo. You gotta, they gotta wait like a couple of weeks, a couple of months. What? What? Who told you that? Who you been with? Man, I'm not old school. I got something. Who you been with? They didn't do that.

When I was growing up, they didn't do that. They didn't do that, Carlos. Man, stop it. I ain't lying, Carlos. Come on, man. Not after one night, you take somebody out to eat, and they go, oh, nah, they don't do that, Carlos. Why?

Why you doing all this? I'm just saying. I'm saying, I done seen you shoot your shot a few times. Yeah, they ain't hit nothing. You ain't hit nothing? Yeah, the turkey's still flying around there. I ain't brought no turkey home for Thanksgiving yet. Try it now.

After that live, you might be able to pull something out. Don't, hey, these ladies out here rich as hell, too. I know. Sometimes you had to go out and you got to show them what it's like when they coming on your side. So sometimes it's an investment. It's coming right back. Especially when you start shooting at these high profile ladies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They already got money. They got divorce money and all that. Man, they don't be worried about your income like that. They be wanting somebody who fit the aesthetic now, but the but the high profile

Well, you know what comes along with high profile See that's the thing a lot of men don't know how to play they position no more if you're lady had profile Right in your in your truck and your hellcat and shut up Where's the best place to meet a woman? At work. At her job. No, no you can't you can't talk to somebody at your work. At her job. You can't if you work there you can't mess with somebody. Say for instance she work at the hospital. Yeah. And then you down there your little boy got asthma Like you need to see her right and her job. Oh, okay. Okay. I thought you said like, okay Like you at work like if you were Amazon and you delivering to a crib you might delete it

Yeah, but if you catch her at her job, it's a whole different, but you know, let me ask you a question See like you see a nice-looking lady you deliver a package to her house. She nice-looking She ain't gonna probably go give you the time of day But if a nice-looking chick deliver that package that same Amazon driver She a lady and she's nice-looking and she did a drip a deliver a package to Carlos house. Call it Hey, let me holler to what's up Why is it like that Carlos? Why they don't give us the time of day if they see us dressed up in a nine to five?

But a dude, but if a young lady were working a nine to five and she like that, we don't care. Because women know how to add. They can add up about how much money you make. So they like, they like, they like men who got disposable income. Because when a woman really looking at you,

she trying to see like, it ain't about if you sexy or not. They like men who got disposable income. Because when a woman really looking at you, she trying to see, like, it ain't about if you sexy or not. It's like, what's your lifestyle looking like? Now, if I bring this over here to where you at, how you gonna upgrade that? So, a lot of dudes be trying to like, they be trying to pull that, you know what I mean? Pull something that ain't really for them.

That ain't in your league Mm-hmm, so nobody want nobody in their league. No, they don't but a player like me. Yeah, I'm trying to holler who like me Right. I ain't doing no impressing not impressive. You just got already like but you know, hey, they're mad Hey, they're my delivery people. They're making break now. You see what them are what brown can do for you They make him big bang. They always have they did they always now should have got me a job there when i was in school you ain't getting no job you never had no job you had no job bro i did i did have i had manual job when i was growing up like what i worked in tobacco field i clipped where in the hell is a tobacco field how many of your stories be older than you? No, no, I've been listening to your stories. You've been like, we grew up in a concrete house,

no bathroom. No, we didn't. Where, where? South Georgia. You said there wasn't no bathroom in the house. No, none. Thousand square foot cinder block, cement floors, tin roof. Are you taking to the high?

I can take you there and see it. It ain't there. It's there. For real? Yeah, I ain't in there. I don't think nobody lived there, but yeah, oh yeah. Drank well water, absolutely. That's what. For real. Yeah, we I ain't in there. Yeah, I don't think nobody lived there. But yeah, oh, yeah drink well water. Absolutely That's what I'm saying. You you come from very humble beginning very Very I still am and I don't want to go back

That's why that's why I work so hard Carlos cuz I knew what it was like. I know what it's like to be me, too That's what I'm saying. Yes, that's what I'm saying So I can't I can't be having no lady who just all she bout is money. Because we going to Oxford sometime, and they don't even sell Louis Vuitton in Oxford. We don't have no Gucci store, ain't no mall, ain't even no weather batting, nothing expensive, baby. Hey, yeah, we feelin' kick it out here in the yard,

let these mosquitoes bite your ass. Then we gonna see how much love. The most expensive thing in a small town like what we got of a tank of gas. Come on. We'll call you about $75. I'm finna let you go. That's all we got.

You finna go to Walmart and you can get whatever you want to. Now that's ballin' to me. Yeah. Have you ever used a dating site? I ain't never been on there. I ain't either. I ain't never been on there.

Social media is about as close as a dating site as I'm gonna get. I don't really do all that. I like to meet them in person anyway. Yeah, cause they be adding them filters and they don't be looking like that in real life like they be looking on them social media pages. I never rolled that.

Nah, it is. Listen, if you tell me you got a car, a 19, if you selling me a 2017 car, say you got 70,000 miles on it. Bruh, how you gonna come up here to think Dented All Up ain't got its own blocks? It ride like it's brand new. It died. So that's really been the problem though.

You ain't finding the ones that look like. No, no, no, no, no, no. Look, man, look, I work. I work a lot. You think you work a lot, I work a lot. I do five, I mean, we're doing four shows a week of nightcap, Ocho and I, about to go to five days a week. I got two days a week on first take with Stephen A.

And then I shoot club shea shea one to two times a week. Now, how much you spending on these days? Come on now, come on, come on. I mean, now? I got bread now. You been had bread. No I didn't have no bread. You been had, but you a Super Bowl champion.

You not finna sit up here and act like we got the same money. I'm not finna go for that shit. You been rich and famous. You was in there in 96, man. No, no. When the Broncos had the orange jersey, you was on that. Man, you been there in paper. I was, but here's the thing though,

I was a seventh round draft pick. Your brother got paper too? That was his paper. He still looked out like, huh, huh, huh, huh. No. He did enough to get me motivated to see what he had, knowing that I wanted that. I saw the house with three car garage, it had indoor plumbing, I saw central heating and cooling, I

wanted that but I made 63,000 my first year. What about the mother 28 place? Yeah but I'm talking about in the beginning. What about? No see that's the pay. I got bread now so it's not a thing but I look at it like this here. I look at it like this here. I look at it and the fact is like, okay, you know what? I believe if she came with her girls, she would still order like this. If I look at you and all of a sudden

you talking about you want the seafood tower and that thing got six lobster tails and five crab claws and all, it's scallops. No, no, no, no, no. Come on, you ain't telling me you putting these women on no budget, bro. I'm on a budget. No, hellops and no, no, no, no. Come on, you ain't telling me you putting these women on no budget, bro. I'm on a budget.

No, hell no. Yes, I am. I don't believe that. I'm on a budget. Come on, man. I'm a poor hustler. Man, you still getting undisputed money. I don't.

Stop lying to these folks. I get it, this your show. You don't want nobody asking you for nothing. No, the undisputed money. You got paper. Undisputed money, stop. You got glasses on, you getting paper. It stopped a couple of months ago, the undisputed money. You got glasses on. You getting paper? It stopped a couple of months ago,

the undisputed money. It stopped a couple of months ago. They got something for you. You getting some residual? I get no residual. Skill! Come on, skill! That's all gold.

You getting paper. Nah, I don't hear that, bruh. NFL Network? Nah, I'm a ESPN. Hall of Fame? They don't send no chase for the Hall of Fame. They send you some money for having bad knees now. No, they don't.

You don't get no retirement. No, no. I haven't taken my retirement yet. What I'm gonna take my retirement for? I don't need it. What you mean? Oh, you got so much paper, you don't need it. Nah, I don't need it.

That's what I'm saying. Stop playing. You and Ocho getting independent money? You all got a part, kid. We doing okay. I mean, we doing okay. You doing ads. You done partnered up with La Portier.

Y'all got all that. You got pay, bro. You got a little part right here. That's money. When you get the part, but I've had this part since 72. It's the only haircut I've ever had. That's what I'm saying, bruh.

You done trademarked the whole thing. Got no trademark. Come on, you bullshitting, man. I know you don't remember. You don't be taking them, letting them get sick lobsters. Take them. I'm allergic to shellfish. So you can't even eat seafood around me.

Let her get the sick lobster. No, she can get the steak, though. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Good fish. Take her out, let her have her food with it. She can't eat more than you can buy. Mm-hmm. No, she can't.

Matt, look, I think $300 is a good budget. It ain't. $300 ain't no good budget. Absolutely not. This Atlanta, you know what I mean, drug dealers and scammers and stealers and robbers and athletes, we got the Atlanta Hawks, the Falcons, the Braves, you know how much money

baseball players make? So if you catch her after she been down there in Lennox with one of them Atlanta Braves and you show her the $300. See, you see, oh you name her. Now which one of those teams Shannon Sharp play for? The Falcons, the Braves, the Hawks, the MLS team now which one of those teams Shannon sharp play for the Falcons the Braves the Hawks the MLS team Which one he played for club?

You got that paper man something It ain't but a few of them. You got it. Have you ever had a bad experience going over to a woman's house? Absolutely, what happened? I was over girl house and a dude showed up. They was downstairs talking. This nigga came upstairs and was like, hey, she a good woman, take care of her. And he left. That was the weirdest thing. What?

Yeah, that was the weirdest thing ever. He's supposed to have a tattoo. You ain't had no jewelry on or nothing. He's supposed to let me get that partner. I don't wear jewelry. My whole thing is to look like I don't have nothing. He came upstairs, said, hey man, she a good woman, man. You got your good one here. Yeah. Take care of her. He came upstairs, said, Hey man, she a good woman, man.

You got your good one here. Yeah. Take care of her. He was hurt too. I don't know what she was whispering to him down there about, but this was- Why he came upstairs? How he knew you was upstairs?

I guess she told him. Oh Lord, how embarrassing. I wouldn't worry. I had that 40 on me. Okay, okay. I'm not coming over there without that 40. See, you see? that's why I stopped, because they told me I couldn't bring my,

I couldn't bring that stick over there. So I say, I can't come over there. I ain't going over there without that. No, but it stopped me from, I had a bad experience and you know, I was asleep. He had the whole, well, no, I wasn't asleep that time. Me and my homeboy, Bucky, he told the, I wouldn't sleep that time.

Me and my homeboy, Bucket, he told the story. People thought I was lying. I called her and she's like, I have to say, I'm in town. He's like, well, come back over. So we turned around, cause we had just left campus, cause she lived close to campus. We turned around, opened the door. She got a, you know, she got a robe on. She said, well, come on back here.

Let me, I want to talk to you. I told my homeboy, I said, Bucket, you know, he got a roll bone. She said well come on back here Let me I want to talk to you. I told my homeboy I said bugger, you know, he got a jet He grabbed a jet magazine. So we about five minutes in I don't took my you know Took my necklace off and set my you know, bracelets up a rolling. I got a diamond rolling. I don't talk that off By this time I see the door handle turning I said my homeboy. No, I don't know amtrak stuff I don't even know what what's going on. So by this time the door swing open, dude got that chopper. I said, Lord have mercy.

I say, my man, this your people? He said, yeah, two years. I said, oh Lord. He said, my man, you? I said, yeah, I'm him. He said, I thought so. I thought so. I said, my man, my bad.

I said, my bad, bad. I said, bro, I ain't know. Put my shirt back on. He said, my bad, bad. I said, bro, I ain't know. Put my shirt back on. He got me shook now, Carlos. He got you no age. But I'm thinking in the back of my mind, I said, but damn, my homeboy, I ain't let him get the drop on me.

His partner had the sawed off on him. So that's why he ain't tell me nothing. I didn't know this till later. One came in through the front, the other came in through the back. So check this out, we leaving. I said, God dang, man, I left my watch and my bracelet. He said, man, forget that.

I said, whatever, man, stop this mofo. I'm finna go get that. I went right back, opened the door, I said, my man, let me get that watch and bracelet off the drugs. He said, here you go. He handed it to me. So we pull it off. They get to fighting.

She run out the house, road tour. Don't leave me, don't leave me. She dropped it in the truck with us and left. I said, now that's the second, Carlos, that was the second time. The first time I had just got drafted came back And I didn't want to drive all the way home because I didn't want to wake my grandmother Because she's gonna be panicked because she didn't know I would have been coming home

So I asked I say you seen anybody no, I said you mind if I spend the night No, I could have just took my tail to La Quinta spent a little fitted dollars, but you know. See? But anyway, man, I'm laying there Carlos, I'm like this here. You ever lay so, you ever had the like sleep paralysis? You can hear things, but you can't move? Yeah, absolutely. After a while, I hear people arguing, it's getting louder and louder.

After a while, boom, the door flied off the engine. So you know, hey, I just got drafted in the NFL. I'm six foot two, I'm 21 years old and I'm primed athletic. I Jump up like what it is. And then I look at it. Oh Lord he got some bodies on his wrestle man. I know who he is. I See my man. He's a sharp man. I'm so proud of you, man. I'll be telling the homie. I know you man. I'm proud Congratulations, man. I used to watch you at Savannah State. He's like I said bro. I said I know he say shop I ain't got no problem with you. He said but I'm tired of this beat line. I'm putting my shoes on I say me too

So that was the doubt that dog that last time when the dude pulled a chop on me that was 93 I have not closed my eyes at a woman house since. I don't blame you. I said, and people tell me, oh, oh, what you mean oh? If a dog bites you, the likelihood of you going to buy a dog is not very likely because you have a traumatic experience with said situation. Dude, dude don't walk over me. A chopper dude got bodies on the resume,

kicked the door in. And you think I'm supposed to just like go over there and they just like. Do you understand that you just got drafted. Yeah. Anywhere that you would have took her that was yours, she was going to be impressed. You could have had a one bedroom condo downtown.

I ain't have no place though. I was in college, I'm sleeping in the dorm. We can't have nobody in the dorm. I don't know how it is now, but. You're an athlete, when you start listening to them people oh no no no no I've followed the rules Carlos cuz they'd have kicked you I did a kick me out of school no they wouldn't you the only one going to the NFL on the whole team Carlos I'm telling you for you you Shannon Shaw I know the star player you think you finna get kicked off

the team I would have a woman I would have I've. Cause they gonna make example out of me. And first and second of all, my brother Sterling Sharp. So I don't wanna do anything that's gonna bring shame or disappointment to him. And I married Porter's grandson. So I always factor that in. Cause before that, now you absolutely right. You had.

I'd have been a little bit more reckless. My grandma would have been so proud of me. Yeah, my grandson down there getting all the hoes. Da da da da. Yeah, he running through them. You said you wanted to legalize prostitution. Yeah. Medical prostitution.

What kind of medical is prostitution? Think of how much depression is out here. Think of how many young men out here sad, nothing to look forward to. They don't even know how to talk to women. They need that. Oh lord. Yeah. Everybody don't got access to go live like that. Oh lord. I heard of medical marijuana. Yeah. But medical prostitution. Yeah. I think that should be an industry that is regulated, that people can enjoy, and it would take a lot of stress off going 50-50,

and whether take it for a date, a lot of people don't have conversations like that. It's just the means to an end. And if they did it right and clean and kept everybody safe, it would be dope. It would be dope. It probably would decrease the violence, crime would go down, employment would go up.

Cause if you knew that you could spend this money having a whole great weekend, that might inspire somebody to work a little harder, might help the economy. Look at what the marijuana industry did for Colorado. Now just think about what the vagina industry would do for America. Prostitution, the oldest profession in the world.

Yeah. Just, hey, come on now. Just need to be regulated, huh? Need to be regulated. Make it safe and healthy. Who started the hashtag black man no cheat? Was that you, Duval, who started that? Nah, that was,

you started that. You started that. Yeah, he got that for me. Cause I'm tired of being misrepresented, bro. Black man, most disrespected men on the whole planet, bro. Don't nobody give us credit for nothing. We just, we don't have no representation. We are the most disrespected. And you know, we the most sought after.

Yeah. And we ain't really out here like that. What made you come to that revelation? What, that black men don't cheat? Yeah. I'm a black man. I'm a black man. In order to cheat, you got to be with somebody.

Right. If you ain't with nobody, that ain't cheating. So in other words, as long as you don't have a partner, you should be able to sleep with this one, that one. Ain't nobody said nothing about no sleeping If you're a black man and your woman white you can cheat Are you coming to that conclusion? What you mean? Why would why wouldn't you cheat? I? Mean if you're in a relationship, is that what you supposed to do?

She white She a woman you chose like I want you to be my woman. I want to be in a relationship with you. I mean, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, whatever. Nah. No. Nah, black men don't cheat. Black men are the most faithful men out here, man.

Do women believe you? Yeah, sometimes. What you mean sometimes? Sometimes, bro. You. Do women believe you? Yeah, sometimes. What you mean, sometimes? Sometimes, bro. You know how they just like to be objective sometimes. But you know, I feel like as a black man, you got a lot to prove out here. So I definitely, I don't know any black men

that's out here cheating. I ain't never seen it. I don't know nobody that cheated. Nobody. I heard you say that. Sometimes they try to set you up and make it look like you cheat. Right. Like they'll sneak and throw you on live and then make it sound like you on there cheating,

but it ain't even cheating. You see how they, you can fall into the trap easy. Yeah, exactly. You know. Now they know. You know that. It's a setup. I heard you say that people should stop

trying to change people. Absolutely. Why would you so in other words I? agree Accept the person that you find them now how you wish them to be Yeah, and sometimes you got it You can't be looking for yourself and other people just cuz you doing right don't mean everybody gonna act right, right? So you just gotta know what you're dealing with if you you met that girl in the club and she was dancing,

why would you tell her to stop? You can't change her, that's who she is. You just need to accept what come with it. Yeah. Now I'm like that. Look, if I meet somebody and they dress and I'm like, ooh, now all of a sudden I get with that person, now you can't dress like that no more. No, that's what I was attracted, I mean now all of a sudden I get with that person, now you can't dress like that

no more, no, that's what I was attracted, I mean I like that, I was attracted to that. I ain't gonna try, I want you to stop. You gotta have some security in yourself. Yes, for sure. And knowing that it don't matter if she a freak or if she a church girl, if she gonna be on some, on demon time, she gonna be on there anyway.

It ain't nothing you can do to stop that. You can try to intervene or delay it, but. She gonna be who she be. She gonna be who she is, man. And I tell people all the time, just be what you be. Just don't include me. But you also said women should stop trying to create the perfect man.

What do you mean by that? Well, a lot of women have this idea of the great perfect man, right? Well, a lot of women have this idea of The great perfect man, right and it's not even something that they really want That's just what they heard somebody else right like That would make sense. I want a guy. He need to be over six foot tall. He need to be educated He need to be well rounded. He need to be what you need a man that tall for you You got high cabinets You need a man that's six seven. He needs to be well read

He needs he won't look he got to want to travel when they been no why but it but I'm just saying But that's what that's what they want. A lot of people won't accept that the type of person that they're attracted to don't even like them mmm attracted to don't even like them. It's a cold world. It is. I mean it sounds good. It's cool to have standards or it's cool to have a wish list but they don't like you. The man that you looking for ain't necessarily looking for you. When the last time you seen a tall man with a tall ass woman? Tall men ain't even attracted to tall women. They like short women.

So then they take all the short women, then they leave all the tall women out here. Now it's just a bunch of short dudes trying to talk to tall women. And tall women don't like short men, but short men love tall women. The tall women looking for the tall dudes, but the tall dudes just stole all the short women

so the short dudes can't have no short women. It's crazy. It's stupid. They be like, they want a rich man. Rich men don't, ain't no rich dudes sitting around like I wonder what kissin' with them three kids is up to. I feel like changing a life today. It don't happen.

It's unreal. You know what, and women try to guilt us in. Talkin' about, you like, well they have kids. You know, two kids, three kids, I have many kids that have. Which is not a problem. It's not a problem, but you can't guilt a man talking about he ain't no man

if he can't take care of you and your kids. Hmm. I mean, what? Where they dead at? What? Why is that a big problem when you ask where they dead at? Right. I mean, it's a lot of dudes that would accept women

like with kids. I ain't got no problem, because I've dated women with kids. I ain't got no problem with that. Why you out here doing this? Do what? You don't love yourself enough. You just told me I should like who like me.

Oh, you don't have to accept everything. You went to the gym and did all that practice, all that running, all them touchdowns. To be a step daddy? I don't look at it no step, I'm a real daddy. Man, you ain't the father that stepped up. Oh no, hell no. You downplaying yourself, man.

Come on now. I like who like me. You ain't gotta like them like that all the time. No, but I'm saying, look, I don't have a problem. Because a lot of times, you know, I ain't really looking at it. Because a lot of times, women might, you know, that I might be interested in, they want to have kids. And I don't know.

I'm 56. So? Bro, I'm not not gonna be going to no graduation They talk about a a Riley your granddaddy That ain't my granddad, it was my daddy food No, no, they have you 56. Don't be putting them old-ass babies in them ladies Thank you. And when they got kids, they don't want no more I'm feeling uh-huh. It's all good What up? Thank you. And when they got kids, they don't want no more. I feel you. Uh-huh.

It's all good, but if you're gonna be out there dealing with them kids' mama, man, you shattin' it sharp, man. You gotta make sure you take care of them. You gotta turn them on to some, put some Nikes on them and all that, man. Oh, yeah, but y'all. Can't just be out there.

No, no, no, no, no, no. You ever dealt with a woman who had a son who was good at ballin'? He was like, he might do something The thing is like when I've dated women that had kids They can't ask me for bags. They can't ask me for anything because I'm only gonna do for the kids No, I'm not thinking about you know, Louis Vuitton and you got a kid out here that needs school clothes They need and maybe need a tutor or something like that. Now ain't nobody messing the economy up

You do that. You Shannon sharp and you messing the economy up when you do that. I don't care. If you Shannon Sharp and you deal with something, don't you understand that you might be her only chance to get that bag? That got nothing to do with me. And then she gonna be, guess what? And she gonna be carried away with another dude, no. You can't, that's, see, that's what I'm saying.

No. You wanna, when you find them, you wanna leave them better than you found them. Big end. If you find her and she bad, but she got that microcores on, and then she deal with Unk for her something, you're supposed to get her two or three bags. You're supposed to take that 07 and turn it at least to a 17.

You got to leave it. You can't just be out here reading. I ain't got it. I ain't got it. Carlos, I don't know what you think. I got bread like that, Carlos. I don't. I'm looking at your crew, and they're like, hey, tell them.

Hey, tell them. You got to like that Carlos. I don't. I'm looking at your crew and they like, hey tell them, hey tell them, you gotta stop. You being cheap out here. You acting like Ocho. Nah, Ocho done rubbed over on you. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, I take, I mean I help. I don't see it. I help.

You just said you ain't gonna get her a bag cause you worried about who else she winning with. You got the flow over here. No, no, no, no, no, no. And host them games. You ain't going to be there all the time. So when you get her that bag, and then I come in town for my show, I'm going to be like, oh!

Something's wrong with my baby. Oh, I'm going to put that little bag on you! Oh, that's why you ain't answering my calls no more. No, this how it go. In the beginning, all you ask is for stuff for the kids, where the kids wanna go to summer camp, where the kids need to be enrolled in this and the kids need to be enrolled in that,

that shows me that you focus. Then I'll do like, okay, you know what? Boom, I hit it with a little bat. See you acting like you got a job, bruh. I do! Aw, I don't like that, huh? I don't like that, man. See like that man. See this is why the black economy is messed up. I got kids too. I got a sister that I take care of. I got a brother I

take care of. I got a mom I take care of. I got responsibilities. You're supposed to show up like go to him like look stay in school. You can be anything you wanna be. Y'all come here, let me get y'all some of this money. That's how you're supposed to be, man. Oh, oh, that's why. Yeah, quit being stingy. I guess that's why. You're 56. He he he. Carlos, I don't know what you think I got

that's this enormous or this absorbed amount of money. Bruh, do you understand you got about 20 minutes of football highlights on YouTube? He he he. I don't get paid for those. Shae Shae did more numbers than Joe Rogan. You got liquor. I'm sure you got sponsorship

from these little comfortable sweatsuits. We working on it, we working on it, we working on it. You ain't got it yet? We ain't got it yet. Come on. We got it. You ain't got no little strapless bags and shit? No, I ain't got the bag today.

Who doing your marketing for you? You need to holler at me. Yeah, okay. I'm telling you. You hook it up. Hey, I can talk to you. need to holler at me. Okay Hey, I can talk now because then what you call will happen it in the women go see this is simple Carlos don't hook you up. So to break me off, bro. I'm telling you they already know anyway, I got first of all This trees is talking this concludes the first half of my conversation The streets is togeth. This concludes the first half of my conversation. Part two is also posted and you can access it

to whichever podcast platform you just listened to part one on. Just simply go back to Club Shae Shae Profile and I'll see you there.