Club Shay Shay - Katt Williams Part 2

Episode Date: January 3, 2024

Katt Williams pays homage to Ice Cube, giving him the flowers Katt feels he's deserved for a long time. The conversation turns philanthropic as Kat discusses giving back and helping up-and-coming comedians financially after successful shows. Katt delves into personal aspects, explaining why he's never been married and addressing the situations involving Taraji P. Henson, Nick Cannon, Jonathan Majors, and Kanye West. Katt reflects on the comedy landscape of a bygone era, shedding light on the dynamics within the Kings of Comedy and their negative sentiments toward Bernie Mac. This episode is a rollercoaster of humor and unfiltered truths showcasing Katt Williams in a light that goes beyond the stage. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How did you develop money? Mike and get it? I mean that, I mean, everybody talks money. Mike is how, how did you come up with that? And says, you know what? This is how you should dress.

This is how you should talk. This is how you should look. This is the kind of whip you should ride. This is how we should talk. So if you'll remember that that was my first movie, just understand that what I did then I've done with every single role, whether it was an Emmy-winning role or whether it wasn't, whether I was playing somebody homeless, whether I was playing a dirty vagabond on Atlanta, whether it was an eccentric guy in First Sunday, regardless of what the role is, the first thing I do is erase me from it.

Okay. So anything that I would naturally do, that's what I'm not going to do because I'm playing a different character. You're playing a character. Right. So I then create this person based upon real-life circumstances. So I don't have to wonder what a pimp thinks because I've been in that position for a little while. I also worked manual labor for some time in my life, so I don't have a problem paying somebody that works.

And I don't have a problem being a go-getter, because I'm a go-getter. So I bring whatever I can to these characters. I was able to... The first week that I got the script, there was a pimp guy that used to be a pimp, but he wasn't anymore. He was a rapper now, and his name was Mac Minister. And he had been a pimp and was getting ready to be a rapper.

And I had never done a movie before. I was a stand-up, and I'm getting ready to do the movie. And so I was able to craft what a real pimp was like, what was too much. I didn't want to be stereotypical. I did the research. I saw how many times people played pimps and they were always, it was always something weird about them, I guess, because it's a weird job. You know what I mean?

And I wanted somebody that didn't seem like none of that that he really thought it was a business and treated it like that and so you know those adding those levels to acting is what all actors do if they're not Steve or Cedric or Ricky like you're trying to create a character you don't you can't just be Faison in every movie. You're just going to take your shirt off on every movie? Why does it say that in your script? Man, let Big Worm live. Let him breathe, cat.

Let Big Worm breathe. Spall him out now. You having an unnatural allegiance to losers is not like you. No, I ain't got no allegiance to the man. But you got to admit the role that he played big work. I mean, big perm and Friday. Now you got to give him credit for the role. Now, come on now.

Let me ask you a question. Yes. If what you're saying is correct, why wasn't he in next Friday or Friday after next? I mean, his role. I mean, it wasn't he in next friday or friday after next i mean his role i mean it wasn't good sorry there was a lot of people that didn't that appeared in the first one that weren't in the second one cat i'm just telling you why i'm sorry i'm sorry that it's a there's a news flash that there are reasons for things in a business yes oh okay well what would you why would you why did you bench d-low he had two

points what are you talking about shut up but i like him nobody cares about that that's not what we're talking about these are business conversations that deal with businessmen right right when you're good at something you should progress the guys that are not as good they should fall down by the wayside that's natural they're worthy so you believe if your talent doesn't support it you should fall by the wayside and the guys that have the talent and they get elevated they should move no that's what water says that's what the universe say. The universe say the levels. No, I don't. Not I say who am I? I'm nobody. But I'm working every day as all make $300,000 a season. And I'm making sure that they're not ever signed to me or my conglomerate. And that's why they're successful. No, you can work with me and still be an independent businessman, boss owner like you

came in. I don't need you to be subservient to me that's those other guys that make you pay dues you said earlier that you rewrote a lot of what money mike was to say and how he behaved so they allowed you the the the freedom the liberty to add leo how much would they allow you to just make an interception if it didn't nobody talk about it as a football player if the ball come your way can you just grab it can you make an interception anytime are you allowed to pick up any fumble are you you can do any hustling right oh okay same here same here but here's the thing though even as even as an offensive player they might let me add live once i get a couple of years into my they wouldn't let me add live as a rookie that was your first movie I I told you the conversation in

my first movie just because I'm I am committed to laughs the only way I made it past those 300 comedians I didn't tell you this what it required is I had to watch all 300 comedians 10 times a piece. I watched your set 10 times of you performing whoever you were. And then I counted how many laughs you got every time you did these amount of minutes. So if you told me this comedian had told me he did 30 minutes, I could tell you that he got 26 laughs in that 30 minutes because I had done the numbers on everybody. So I didn't just say I was funnier, I knew I was funnier than the comic you liked and I could tell you how many jokes funnier I was because that's how we judge stand up.

You do 15 minutes, I do 15 minutes. How do I know I'm funnier than you? Because you got six laughs and I got 16. I'm almost three times better than you low key boy boy, but I'm never going to tell you the formula. So you're going to keep just going out there telling jokes. Now understand that I psychologically, the audience by 10 years is convinced that I'm funnier than you. They just don't know why. Because I'm putting out more content better. I had Terry Crews on here. He said at the time that you did the movie, you were homeless. Is that true?

This was my situation. I... Five months prior to me getting this first audition for Friday After Next, I got this baby son. I'm holding him up above me. He grabs my little chain. He's playing with it, and he accidentally drops it. It breaks out my front two teeth. I'm in a situation now where when I go to the dentist,

they telling me this going to cost thousands and thousands of dollars to fix this right. They not telling me what it's going to look like. I go get an estimate with no money involved to find out what I need to do. They find out you got a tumor in your upper jaw, so we're going to have to do a whole surgery for you. It's going to be 100 bands. I don't have it. I don't have it. And I'm only going to have this check from this movie movie So while I'm doing this movie we live in this trailer This where we live so when they come to work at 5 in the morning We already there when they leave at night. We still there. We just double back

Because we understood that this is our one opportunity And we have this opportunity to change our lives just like a young man going for the draft right we can actually get in the league with this there are 30 comedians on this cast they're all magnificent this is the holy grail of the situation um so yeah i was able to make sure that because it wasn't just my first movie it was k K.D. Aubert's first movie. It was Terry Crews' first movie. Absolutely. I was the leader of this group, which meant that we did,

we didn't do their rehearsals. They did rehearsal. We did our own rehearsals daily to make sure that we were at the level of professional actors, which is what made it so egregious. That guy. Say, I was supposed to. You were supposed to what? Actors which is what made it so egregious that guy Say I was supposed to you is both to what?

Can he did have a good part in the movie man the Santa Claus was funny man the dude said the entire time we're filming I can't play this role They got a bandana over my nose and my mouth. My family not even gonna know who this is. So yeah, tell your story. Terry Cruz also said that you guys had a lot of conversation that this was your opportunity and you needed

to seize this moment terry had the benefit of having been in some very high profile situations already and took else like he had been in the league you know what i mean he he had um done pro wrestling he had done a lot of things. He had been televised in some things that hadn't worked. Right. And this was just fortuitous for him. And now you know what nobody has ever said in the whole industry in 20 years about, you know, the whole money might not get raped in the bathroom. So I understood going in that there's no reason.

I lost every, for a five-year period, every single movie that Kevin Hart did was a movie that had been on my desk, that all I had said was just, can we take some of this step and fetch it shit out, and then I can do it? Like, it don't need to be overtly homosexual, because I'm not homosexual, right? It doesn't need that to be funny, right? And me saying that and them going, oh, yeah, no problem,

and then going to give it to this other guy and having him do it just like it was and acting like I'm a bad person because I keep standing on my standard. But, yeah, it's's interesting but I wouldn't change it for the world like again I'm I'm on the winning side of these decisions you know look I've had cube I've talked to cube and a lot of people say cube don't doesn't pay what's your relationship with cube and what did that opportunity mean for you well the ungrateful bastards that would say anything about cubes payment you shouldn't even talk to them anymore like you don't you don't go to goodwill you don't go to a Goodwill thrift store and go, look at all this cheap-ass shit. Won't you shut up?

Won't you shut up? You could have went to Hermes. Why you didn't go to Balenciaga? Why you didn't get a boat to the Balmain? You want to have that conversation? What you mean the independent black dude who's filming it partly out of his fucking pocket? What you mean he didn't pay you enough? Hey, weirdos.

Weirdos. That felt like they earned the opportunity because they were big. No, no. I understood. That ain't no $200 million movie. How much did you expect you was going to make? Well, I made enough to get them teeth fixed just like you did.

So I... It was no harm, no foul. I knew that I was going to go from there and there was no. They were going to turn it back for Cat Williams. Well, here's the thing. I wrote it. What I'm saying, I'm saying if I did it and I did a good job at it, you can thank me. I was involved.

Right. I'm not going to come later on and tell you I never even read the whole script. So how, you know, what? What do you mean? I read like like these guys. Whole job is to present something, unfortunately. And I'm just not a presenter. If you ask me a question, I'm just going to tell if you ask me a question I'm just gonna tell you the truth of how I went would you be willing to do another Friday Cube already asked me to write it I was supposed to have been writing it that's this is what these guys are mad about like

we lost some great people before this movie could come out regardless. And so, yes, there desperately needs to be one. But we miss John Witherspoon in a way that can't really be quantified, if I'm being honest with you. if I'm being honest with you. And the Chris Tucker that we got now is Epstein Island Chris Tucker. Not Smokey. Oh, Lord.

If I didn't know no better, I'd tell you he's the greatest. I don't care what you say. To be confident and not delusional is a real skill. most of these confident people we see is really delusional well you don't think you don't think they asked chris tucker to come back in the second in the snack in the second friday smoky smoky was all in smoking of Smokey. There ain't no Friday without Smokey. We all agree to that.

And there's no next Friday without Friday. And there's no Friday after next without Friday. Nah, we talking about the road because you said that they don't. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Chris was allowed to make the decision. At the time that this is happening, Cat Williams is known for smoking weed. Willie Nelson is known for smoking weed.

Snoop's known for smoking weed. But none of us is really known except Willie. And I'm saying, Chris Tucker didn't want to be the poster child for smoking weed. He don't smoke weed like that. He in the church. Michael Jackson's best friend. Christmas. Michael Jackson's best friend Christmas Michael Jackson call him Christmas you ever met a man and gave you a little

nickname like that no me neither must be the greatest man I don't be able to get nobody back I don't be able to get no more comedians they all got me done hey are you kidding ah hey I probably got all the rest of it I got the ones and I promise you everybody trying to double back you're gonna be having to beat them all with a stick you won't let him they're coming much as you're on deaf comedy jam comic Much as... You're on Def Comedy Jam, Comic View. What were those experiences like? What do you remember most about Def Comedy Jam and Comic View?

Comic View was everything. Comic View was really the break. And not Friday after next, just because... Comic View was just 3,000 of your stand-up peers and we just throw sets of all of them up there and we see who the audience likes. Who do they like? And it was a great Wild Wild West time to be involved in comedy and the same is true for Def Jam because hip-hop was a fad at one time hip-hop ain't gonna last and why are you doing that and that's how it was

for blue comedy if you were a comedian that cussed you were ridiculed by the mainstream comedy Geist that would be like me being on Joe Rogan. Joe don't want me on that. I need to be on Shannon. Joe got six comedians that never been funny. He want to push out. But that's really how it is. I'm so sorry I'm competitive.

You an athlete, right? Yeah, yeah. I can tell. You understand. Will there ever be another comic view deaf comedy jam could could that end today in 24 25 26 could we see that again they've already announced it's already going you didn't know yeah kevin hart purchased it so he's now doing uh comic view that happened at the same time that they gave DC Young Fly Hollywood Squares. Where? Yeah. Because they tell you that there's no gatekeepers, but we keep seeing the same

people open the gate. Didn't Kevin open the gate and let Tiffany in? Ain't he now opening it up for... Don't such and such open the gate? What do you mean there ain't no gatekeepers? There's a hundred gates out here. Everyone I've seen got a keeper.

Would you have wanted to do Comic View or Deaf Comedy Jam? Would you have wanted to be? I think we just mentioned I did them both. No, I'm saying purchase the rights and refranchise it. Nope. They didn't offer it to me anyway. Nope. They didn't offer it to me anyway. Like, Comic View did a couple of disservices to comedy as well.

So there were people like me that were out there getting two and three standing ovations in one set. And that wasn't good for television. So what they did was they started making everybody get a standing ovation. So they would tell the audience, when they off stage everybody get up and cheer and so now the fact that i'm the only one out there going to get standing ovations is now making people think everybody get a standing ovation and that's not how comedy is so i i understood why that couldn't go anymore because remember Ricky Smiley sat right here and told you a story about how he performed with Mike Epps and Cat Williams when he did Comic View and to let him tell it, he was funnier than both. My name is Lil Dow. Talking about the special needs.

That's good. That's a different level. That was a different time, Kat. No, it wasn't. It was the time I was there. But I'm saying that time, this time, same time. No, but I'm saying just like people that tell you the Egyptians, they're not black. Egypt is in Africa, folks.

As long as Egypt is in Africa, then Egyptians are African. Do you believe you could tell the same jokes today as when you started out? I mean, Eddie Murphy not telling those jokes. Richard Pryor not being wouldn't be able to tell those jokes in 2024 that they told in the 70s and the 80s. So they wouldn't have told him. But that's my point. They're not inferior people. No. If they were in this time, they would be going according to our time.

Just like then we were going according to that. Like that's how it is in the world. There are words that we can use for a while. And when we use them for a while until somebody says that ain't a good word, we should stop saying that. Correct. That don't make people feel good.

And we stop saying the word. And we move on to another word. You can't say the R word. You can certainly say special needs. Yeah. You can certainly say spectrum. You can, you can, you, there are things that you can say to get your point

that don't have to hurt people. Right. But you would know that if what you did was construct the English language for a living. Mm- living, then you would understand that part. You financed your first stand up. You had 20. It cost you twenty two thousand. You had twenty five to your name. Why did you decide to do that? You you you you believe that much in cat. I believe that much in business. In business, the goal is for you to become independent and be the boss, take the responsibility, and also get the profit. Okay.

That's all. How can I be looking for you to put me on if I wouldn't? And if I can't show you what you missed out on, why would you believe me? Now the fact that I was able to do it 12 times, that's the real thing. The part that I'm able to do it all across the country. The fact that every time I do a tour or a special, you think, that's sponsored by somebody. Somebody did a good job. No. No, just the guy they're kicking around.

Just the one who might mentally not be all there. He's the one picking the outfits, writing this guy's material, booking the shows, making sure he gets there. He's the one hiring the other comedians. He's. But hey, I knew that that's the end goal. But hey, I knew that that's the end goal. So if that's the end goal and I'm there when I start, why would I deviate from that? Right. Remember, my goal was to get this far in Hollywood and still have a virgin asshole and never have sucked a penis. That was my only goal. I didn't want to get with a white woman

because I was scared she might have me running down the street like Jonathan Benjams. Then you're going to pick up on that. Not because I didn't like white women. I think white women are as great as any other women. But I'm not going to act like I'm not scared of them. I have a reason to be scared. You could be Kang the Conqueror

and they could take your rabbit ass down in two weekends and that's the truth of the matter so i stayed away from that and remember i told you the drug story from when i'm in the park yeah so these are just the things i had all of those when i came in i already was ready for that that's what they don't like. I did not know. You're telling me and showing me a side of the business that I didn't know that you guys, man,

the competition, the competitiveness. That's all business. I don't care if they're selling Coke. You wouldn't believe the things that Coca-Cola says about Pepsi. You wouldn't believe the things that Coca-Cola says about Pepsi. You wouldn't believe the water conversations between Dasani and Liquid Death. Like in all business, in all sport, competition is a driving force.

And I don't require anybody to be better. Who am I? I just require if you're a loser and you've taken shortcuts at every chance and you've made sure that you didn't put anybody on that really had a work ethic and was a God fearing person and you helped it. If that was never you, then don't act like that's you. Don't want to get out here now that you don't do stand up and start acting like oh you're not sure why you don't do stand up no more i heard you got run off you better be careful the nigga that run you off gonna show up and he gonna tell everybody i mean what you gonna be able to say nothing why you think i speak with such clarity i'm actually involved in each one of these stories I told you about. Right.

Right. The one comedian that we've been sitting here doing this interview that you hold in very high regard is Dave Chappelle. Dave Chappelle walked away from 50 million. You said it was more. Tell the story. That's right. I want you to tell it. No, you're. No, I want you to tell it.

You really are the best. You've proven it here today. As much as I'm proving it, you've proven it. You've proven it. Yeah, that wasn't the thing. It wasn't. People say that he lost 50 million dollars. No, no, that's not even close to what happened to this dude. And until you understand what happened to the dude, you don't understand what happened. Like, no no not they offered him 50 million and he turned it down who gonna turn down 50 million now i've had to turn down 50 million dollars four times four times just to protect my integrity and that virgin hole i was

telling you about right uh because p diddy be wanting to party. And you got to tell him no. You got to tell him no. I did. I did. See, I got the receipts for everything I'm telling you. That's why I can say them so freely. Ken, I need to know. Here, get you a number too, Ken. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Because early on you was accusing me of being...

Ken, man. It's crazy. I mean, but you know, some of these people... Martin tried to put me in my first dress. When he had to go on his hiatus, he tell me, Kat, when I come back, I need you. You my young partner. You my brother in comedy.

When I come back, just promise me that my next movie, it'll be me and you. We gonna do it together. We gonna do some buddy cop shit. I said, Martin, you got my motherfucking word, my nigga. Go do what you got to do. When you come back, I'm in your movie. Don't trip. I don't need to see the script or nothing. You know, we get in that office and this fool pull out Big Mama's house too. I almost died. And I got to read this script from all these good white people Where this nigga want me to get in a dress with him

And I'm literally saying to everybody Why is he in a dress again? You already played the old lady as an FBI agent We can play anything now We can be playing a dog catcher this time Why do we need to be in a dress? And I get so mad I say you don you don't want me. You want Brandon T. Jackson. And that's who they went and got.

Twice I said it, they went and got him. Just like I'm telling you, I had the other dudes work. I had all of it. All I did was say, I want to punch it up so it's not offensive to real niggas. And that's how I got in this position.

I sure hope I have a club shea she got in this position. Lord have mercy. I sure hope I have a club after this era. It's going to be in a dimension that's never been there. The greatest thing floating in 2024. Mark the words. No way. In a whole different realm of business.

Oprah coming next. Once I established this as a place of truth Oh yeah Watch Watch God's people ain't that few Prince You met Prince Prince was a friend of mine

He was a friend of mine What was those conversations Look Prince was a friend of mine he was a friend of mine what was those conversations look I mean sometimes we don't really understand or appreciate someone until they're gone I did I was a big Prince fan all of his stuff because he could play all the instruments he could sing

he was an entertainer that could sing and what he wrote I mean who thinks of cherry moons who thinks it snows in April a raspberry beret or pink cashmere the thing and what he wrote. I mean, who thinks of cherry moons? Who thinks it snows in April? Who, a raspberry beret or pink cashmere, the thing, the purple rain, the things that he wrote about. Like, bro, who, who mind goes there? Yeah, he was, um, he was like any, unlike anybody in the world. He was just an amazing individual. I was able to meet him when I was 12, and I knew him my entire life through all of his changes. I was able to assist him many times.

If you go look at Prince's car collection, you'll see that Prince don't have not one car, Cat Williams ain't got. He got the Prowler from Friday After Next and that. He got the same Bentley as me. Because we share certain things. Our connection was lyrics, musical lyrics, women

and cars. And those are the areas where he trusted my opinion on things. And that's where I got to be helpful in his life. And he was helpful in mine in really all different types of ways, especially about the business. As far as being a black man that was rich in this business at 18 years old, had already did his first million dollar contract, had already broken records, was determined that he didn't want to be like anybody else,

was so great of a guitar player that black people just stopped caring about guitar. And he got left out on a limb and somehow still had to create his way out of that. He was just really a one in a billion type person. I was lucky to know him. Now, there are specials and the streaming. I don't know, I don't think there's as many,

there's no DVDs now. So where are you on this, the streaming, the specials? I mean, obviously you still tour, but how much do you focus on? Okay, I'm a tour say a hundred days or 150 days, but I'm gonna do a special Well now that our relationship with Netflix is at the eight-figure mark Hey how Hey, how often you want to make them? Oh said eight i mean like like five six seven eight

gotta be 10 million to qualify yeah so what i'm saying is once you're at that level i mean what you do i i i'd be willing to bet you say every time you turn around i'm gonna be doing another one i think that's what you would say if you was any good. Yeah, for sure. And like I said, like I said, with 12 comedy specials, why do I need to be in these conversations with these specialist people? Say it ain't got no specials you remember. Steve ain't got no specials you remember.

Ricky ain't got no specials you remember. Faison ain't got no. So why do y'all get to tell? Yep, it was 20 minutes long. It was good though it was he's good not it was good he's good don't think because i said something um a derogatory that i i don't i don't know how to hate earthquake has consistently i don't think anybody's ever said quake wasn't funny he he probably never been booed i don't think i don't think he's ever given a bad performance but but um

but his just do was overdue he was in a whole different situation yeah because he wasn't able to translate the stand-up to the movie thing he took a hit most people don't take a hit they're just judged on their stand-up right so yeah no i i i even though it sounds like there's a lot of people i don't that's not the case i i am uh i'm a proponent of all of us who are in this business working hard trying to make it. When you got into stand-up, was crossing over, was doing TV, was doing movie, was that a part of it? You're like, okay, I'm doing stand-up. Okay, the next progression is TV movies. Throughout the history of stand-up, sir.

That's the goal for all of us. That's how it goes. That's why when you hear these dudes talking about, oh, I didn't want to be a movie star. You just know it's disingenuous. Like, what are you talking about, dude? Yeah, oh, no, no. I just wanted to do a game show. Right. What? Are you sure? Are you sure? Because I thought you did Mark Curry's show over after he had just done hanging with Mr. Cooper. Why would you do all of that man's stuff that he did on his show on yours and then do the dude's stand up?

You go on the road and then you never put Mark Curry on your show or nothing. Like if you don't say anything, these dudes will run over you. I don't know if you know how bullies operate. I do. But if you don't stand up for yourself, there really is nothing they won't do. Right. You're a very generous man, Kat. You are the sole sponsor of Melba Moore getting a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

You did all that on your own. Why? Do you have a personal relationship with Melba Moore getting a star in the Hollywood Walk of Fame. You did all that on your own. Why? Do you have a personal relationship with Melba? No, no. I understood that she was a black woman in a time where it mattered. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL daily with Greg Rosenthal five days a week. You'll get all the latest news previews,

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She wasn't tall enough. She wasn't fine. They didn't like her looks. They didn't like that her hair was natural. They talked crazy like her looks. They didn't like that her hair was natural. They talked crazy about her. And yet she still made all of these achievements. And I'm like, understand, I'm already in the Comedy Hall of Fame. I'm already going to heaven no matter what happens.

If it ends in a second, I'm up there. What happens if it ends in a second? I'm up there. So it gives me the leeway to do some things that are simply because it's the right thing to do. So the truth of the matter is they wanted to give me a star. But please don't consider me and this person been sitting on this list this whole time. And just because they ain't got enough money, they't get they just do that's crazy when do you start that that's hurtful what if somebody can't afford their flowers you mean they don't get them no god don't operate like that he was

saying a dummy like me to come and take care of that just so that the right thing happens that's how the universe work because remember i don't, what am I spending my money on? I'm not spending my money on strippers. I ain't spending them on drugs. Why not? Like, what? Because if I go in a strip club,

I'm only trying to get her out of there. Yeah. I have no intention of her or any other people being in this position. If I see a girl I like at the strip club, I'm telling her, you know you don't have to

strip no more after this. This could be your last day. Did it! How about that? What would it be like just to leave it all? You ain't gotta be all no more. I don't even want you to go get your purse.

Just leave it. We getting new ID. We getting new ID and social security card. We don't need. I don't even want you to go get your purse. Just leave it. We getting new ID. We getting new ID and credit card and social security card. We don't need none of that. None of that. None of that. This life don't look good on you. Yeah, shit.

You don't even look like a drug addict. Got me thinking. Got me thinking, cat. Right. You hear these athletes talking about, yeah, we was out there tricking. What? Why? You're part of the problem. You're part of the problem.

You're part of the problem. Stop paying people that you don't have no respect for. It sets it up bad for us. We got women out here can't find a man because they acting like him. You are alpha. Now the alphas all want these subservient husbands you can't have one sorry about that okay go ahead boy you done got me canceled how many times in this program where's the camera I didn't write I said tonight, it's all been on these cue cards, and I'm just going to keep reading them.

Ask your next question. The Migos. Do you help them get out of financial situation? I don't think we ever as a nation can remember a time that the Migos were financially unsuccessful. So for the record, I would assume that they've never needed Cat Williams financial assistance for anything. I'm sure that between QC, the label and other things they were taken care of. On the other hand, if I was given the opportunity to help them, would I? Of course I would. That's what I do.

I'm a pro-black, non-racist. Like, I really, really love black people, but I don't love them more than other people. I love everybody. I just, I'm a a black guy and I try to stick with that. But, yeah, I'm not one of those pillow talkers either. Like when I do something good, I'm really not doing it for the gram. It's not it's not for it's not for any of that. I'm just doing it because it's good to do. I appreciate that. I read I don't know if this is true, but I did read that comedians on your show say that women sometimes would bring them money and not say where it came from.

Say that again. Comedians would say women would bring them money and not say where it came from. and not say where it came from. Right. So I'm not a feminist like a feminist would be, but I do believe that there are no, that in my camp, like if I had 35 people in my camp, I believe that other than four jobs, I believe that a woman is better at any of them jobs

than any man could be. OK, so 10 of these jobs, no man can work because I'd rather a female be there. If I got to smell anybody's breath, I want it to be hers. I don't want none of you crusty. So so what I'm saying is in a staffing issue, I'm going to have 75% women just because I prefer them. I don't prefer to hear two guys talking in the corner. I prefer to hear two ladies talking in the corner. I don't care what they're talking about. I just prefer that. So a lot of times I will utilize ladies to convey a message. If a comedian is doing a great job somewhere in the country. He just did a masterful set and nobody's going to pay him.

They just clapping. And I know he's broke as shit back there. Wouldn't it be nice if somebody just showed up and gave him a little blessing and he didn't have to suck me off for it? And thanks, Kat. and boy I really needed it why would you do that if you was actually just trying to help people you would people know that's how I pay my tithes if I got paid a hundred thousand dollars to be at your city I'm gonna take ten thousand a day and put it in your homeless area. Not because I got to. Because you gave me a hundred racks to come to your little rinky dink town. Who would I be to not pay my tithes back to your town? That's how I got in this position.

Wow. You adopted seven kids. Why? That's a lot of kids for a man that's as busy as you are, travels as much as you do, on the road as much as you are, spend a lot of time because you have to spend a lot. I mean, it's not easy. I mean, maybe it comes just so

natural to you to put pen to paper and to write things down and be able to go out there and perform a set. But that's a lot of responsibility cat right right but if there was a god what would he think about you if you did that i'm saying let's just let's say for example okay that god is real yes okay and let's say he'd be looking at what you do. Yes. What would he say if you did that?

He said, that's a very kind gesture. That's very generous of you. My whole life, since I was telling you when I was young and they was asking me what I wanted to be and nothing I wanted to be was what I wanted to be God's friend. That's a weird thing if you're an atheist if you're an atheist I didn't even say nothing but if you believe in God and I tell you that I wanted to be God's friend and I wanted to even go to Hollywood and still be God's friend if I told you that that was my aim you could understand where i'm at like i promise you i no jealousy no bitterness none of that i got exactly what i was trying to get i haven't been shorted in any way i mean seven eight kids single you gonna get married you remember the conversation where i was

where it was me yes and i didn't know what was gonna happen to my two little brothers and it was just gonna be out there yes so when it gone full circle and I'm one of the I'm one of the richest men that ever lived and I don't I don't I don't mean please don't look at my net worth I saw my net worth I I had that on me what I'm saying is like I'm saying my net worth is less than my last Netflix deal. You understand what I'm telling you? I think it makes sense. But I'm fine. Jesus was poor.

Jesus didn't have nothing. So why am I going to be mad? You say I don't have nothing. They had amenities they had back then, though, okay. Say it again. We got different amenities now. Not more than gold. Gold was the amenity of that time.

We still got gold. Gold still run it. They have no Rolls Royce. You can buy an ass. That's what they call it in the biblical time. It was cheap. I'm saying if you really want to say, I'm saying a Cullinan is cheap. So back in the day, I would give my girl a donkey.

Today we get her a Cullinan. But I'm saying whoever, I'm saying whoever and whatever it is, I'm saying we. I'm saying because what are we going to do? I done already told you I'm one of the richest people that ever lived. Yes. Only in the fact that when I wake up in the morning, no matter where I am, I don't need nothing. Whatever I need is right around me. And whatever I don't have, it's only just because I don't have it.

It's not because I can't get it. All I got to do is want it. And it belongs to me. So because of that, because I'm favored by God, like when I see people's wives and stuff, I don't even look at them. You know what I mean? Like I don't want to look at nothing I don't want to have because I know how blessed I am. If I look at it, I got it. That's how did he be feeling?

Come on, man. Come on. So you're not supposed to look at anything that you don't want not me personally just because god has given me literally everything i ever even pump faked like i want and that's the whole thing that's that's the whole thing is i don't i don't have a type of woman every woman that i ever had as a type, I ended up getting her. Now she's not the type anymore. Now I understand that every woman is a one of one.

Like you can't really have types. What? See, I ain't trying to ask you something about marriage. I ain't saying nothing about no marriage, Cal. Yeah, you did. When you rewind the tape, you let it out. You was like, so you ever going to get married? And then you took it back.

It's okay. It's okay. I wasn't on the photographic memory. Are you? I'm not against it. Like, most people that are not married is because they're afraid of commitment. It's not like that for me. It's just the whole time I wanted to be married, I had kids.

So I had to try to fill my wife's place before she got there. So I'm already got kids without a mother. But so now I got to be doing laundry. I'm washing dishes. I'm reading stories. I'm having to nurture. I'm having to do all of this. And I got to the point where I didn't need the wife. I'm doing it and we're doing it and I'm not replacing a woman in their lives. I'm letting them see that that's just the only thing that we don't have. And it was easier for me to do that because you have to understand that all of the kids I'm raising at this point, they have fathers. You see, they have a mother.

You see, I'm a different person. I'm raising you. And so that needs to be done with the other respect for the others that put work in as well. So yeah, I never had a problem getting married. well so yeah I never had a problem getting married I was one of the one things you try to teach your kids I don't teach anybody anything that's over 18 I've done the work I was gonna do but as kids I really just tried to teach the things that can't be bought, your integrity,

trying to live your life in a way that you yourself could be proud of if you had to look back on it. And I didn't do very good at leading by example, but behind the scenes, that's never what I was pushing. the scenes, that's never what I was pushing. They understood that because of my stance, there was a certain thing that would come my way. And so accountability and responsibility is part of what you're teaching is that even if you're doing the greatest thing in the world, You know, even if you're doing the greatest thing in the world, there's this thing called no good deed goes unpunished. Like there's a real Murphy's Law.

Like basically in raising kids, you're just trying to give them a better manual and an outline of how life works than your parents gave you. You know? And so that's how i did it how do you avoid toxic women give me give me give me i mean i mean because obviously you know you like women i do and i probably like toxic ones more than anybody that's because i'll ask you hold on because toxic women are exciting and that's just a fact part of toxicity is exciting i'd rather skydive with her but but but if you have toxic women just understand that all monsters are feeding off of something. And if you find out what this toxic woman is feeding off of, you can just begin to turn off her feeding points.

And it drives a toxic person crazy, and they'll get away from you. So whatever, if she's truly toxic, there are certain things that she's doing that help fuel her toxicity. You're not noticing it it but it's what it is why do you think she watches murder mysteries before she goes to sleep why is it always a crime drama playing and turn it off turn it to cartoons no no you don't get to what's she listening listening to? You're going to be listening to sexy red. You're broke. Toxic people are trying to get things. They're not being toxic for no reason. They're gaining something out of how they operate.

for no reason. They're gaining something out of how they operate. That's why they operate like that because they get something. As soon as you find that out, you'll be able to cut off what they're getting and they will leave. Yeah. You were married once. Never. You weren't married? Never in life.

So would you have a cohabitation agreement? Never. How? How could I be a single parent and be married you could you know there are people that like were married and then they get divorced and then become single parents that's how that works yeah but a person who's never been married means he's never been married okay okay i'm i'm gonna take your word for it why would you need to take my word for it? Hold on, hold on.

If I had been married, wouldn't somebody have said who she was? No. It might have been a long time ago. No. I've never not been famous, sir. I just worked the story out to you. I don't have no hidden mysteries in my life. That was Jesus. I don't have no periods in my life where it's unaccounted for.

No, no, no. That person that said that was Jesus. I don't have no periods in my life where it's unaccounted for. No, no, no. That person that said that was a liar. I got a case right now in L.A. This lady saying she was my assistant for 14 years and I hurt her or something like that. Never worked for me not a day in my life. Liars lie because they want to. But people always say, why would they lie? No, there are several women have said they was married to me.

It's just when it went to court, they had to say, I was married to him spiritually. You shut up. Are you going to be married to me? My kids don't know you. Answer me that. So do you have a problem bringing women around your kids no not then or now i've always lived with several women like i'm known several yeah like more than one i've already told you that i prefer the company of women yeah company men. So if I told you that me and a couple dudes on my staff sometimes have to cohabitate, nobody finds a problem with that.

Yeah, so it's me and three ladies cohabitating because that's how the business gets done. Like, I don't want a chef that scratches his nuts before he cooks. I don't want a chef that scratches his nuts before he cooks. I don't. No disrespect to these guys that go around with these large male-only groupings, but that's not my episode of Entourage. Man, you were approached by seven gunmen. You were robbed, shot in the thigh.

Say it again? You were robbed once, correct? never you didn't get robbed you didn't you didn't get approached by government trying to get robbed they didn't take anything i wasn't even the i wasn't even um the target i wasn't even who they were talking to and not because i say that because if you look at what time period it is I'm not even making five thousand a year so robbing me wasn't answered this is before Oklahoma you got not a terrible condition they'd have been disappointed thinking to get some of you huh if they'd have been disappointed thinking they'd get something off of you, huh? If they had robbed you. Look, in three cities, it's legendary that Cat Williams would walk down our streets with his baby in a baby stroller, with a diaper bag, with a gun in a diaper bag. The only thing I need is a pass. Don't mess with me and just let me go about my business.

I'm living in Englewood, Compton. I'm living in Manchester and Western. I'm in L.A., the gang capital of the world, but never robbed. Because why? I'm not pretending to be something I'm not. You think I'm a blood. You think I'm a crib. I'm from Ohio. I'm a comedian. I'm a father. Right. I'm trying to do something out here. And not only do I not judge what you're doing, I'm not trying to be involved.

Right. That's the difference. That's where the respect comes from. Two of you touring right now. Dark Matters. The Dark Matter Tour. Yeah. Filming next Netflix special.

In May. May. Yeah. Next Netflix special. Oh oh youtube theater in englewood i might catch that i thought you might say that i would catch that one right because it's a home coming for me because i lived on um i lived on hazel so you know i got a case i know i lived in the heart of englewood they saw me walk down Marcus Street with the babies I'm raising like they understood that no no yeah I was really not pretend oh he wanted me from the hood no I'm living there on the street what's

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only now from a Dynasty perspective. Maybe you've been living in the Dynasty Fantasy Football space for a while. Well, we're here to take your game to the next level. Maybe you love Fantasy Football and you've been feeling that itch We'll be right back. listening, I promise. Join me and the rest of the crew every Wednesday for a new episode. Listen to the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I don't have any favorites in the world just because every place is dealing with their own issues, their own troubles. All places look better than they actually are for the people that live there.

And it's always a difference between what it seems like and what it is like. People will tell you, I went to Paris. I was there at the Eiffel Tower. Bitch, you had bed bugs. And there were rats everywhere. And the food was terrible. Tell the rest of it.

Don't tell some. Let me ask you a question. When you go to these cities to tour, do you make it a habit of getting out? That's how I built my reputation. It's also how I ended up in jail 19 times. Because when I come to do a show, I'm really in your city. So whatever the strip club is, I'm there.

Whatever the top bar is, I was there drinking. Whatever the, I was at a whatever the i was over there you had a casino i was at it like what was it huh because i'm in your city this is how i'm learning your city so that when i do my show i can be talking about what i know not what i think right and so that was what i did in every city that I went to. The first 15 minutes of my show is what it's like to be here. You see what I'm saying? And so that was always a part of what kept my legend going to the point where I can still be in these arenas without you ever seeing a poster with my picture on it, without you ever seeing a flyer, without you ever seeing a post that goes, hey, it's Kat. Could y'all make sure y'all come out and come see me? Because I'm going

to be in. Would you please come on out, guys? And I really am. Because we have a different respect. I know I'm coming. They know I'm coming. I know they're going to be there. And they know I'm coming. I know they gonna be there and they know I'm gonna do the best job I can possibly do. And they know beyond a shadow of a doubt, whatever hour he was doing when we last saw him, he won't be doing that hour when we see him this time. It's a whole new conversation. And because I've never strayed from that, they've never strayed from their part. I'm looking at some of the actors that you've been on screen with. Q, Tracy Morgan, Regina Hall, Terrence Howard, they love Nick Cannon. I mean, Tiffany. I mean, bro, who brings out the best in Cat Williams? How does someone get the best out of Cat Williams? Do you need a comedian? Do you need a serious actor?

How do we get the absolute best out of Cat Williams on screen? Well, I would be disingenuous if I didn't remind us that that's never anybody's goal. It's never anybody's goal to create a great situation for me to do a good job. Why? In a script. The way it works is the script is already there. This is a character in the script. If they give me the job, I make it my job that this character here,

this character here has to be as big as this whole project. So if you don't even see the movie School Dance, I want you to remember, whose goddamn white baby is this? And the only way that I can guarantee that you will remember my scene if you didn't remember a whole movie is if I make sure that my scenes are that good.

Because that's what I watched. I watched great actors you never saw DeNiro you never saw Pesci you never saw any of these dudes and something you was like nah I don't really believe it you sure you're the great Gatsby like no like you believe that this dude Daniel is a hobbit that's part of the Lord of the Rings right you see what I'm saying and so I it's part of the Lord of the Rings. Right. You see what I'm saying?

I do. And so it's having a respect for the craft that I'm doing that means I'm trying to do the best job possible. What was it like working with Spike Lee doing Priceless? Spike Lee is everything that you said I was in my intro. He's just really an innovator and a groundbreaking, one-of-a-kind dynamo. And I knew that they were... Like, they tried to sabotage me even then.

Like, as soon as I said I wanted to get Spike Lee to direct it, because that was the biggest thing I could do. They immediately gave Spike to Gerard Carmichael and had him do his special, too, at the comedy store. And just to undermine like but I if there's one thing you can take away from me as a person, whether you like me or you don't. If you take this from me, you will be a better person. If you decide today that you're going to live every day like it's your last for real, which means have a conversation with yourself every night that, okay, that was it. May not be no more after that. And really count yourself every day like this could have been it. All right. Before I go to bed, this could be it it all right before I go to bed

this could be it all right how's that looking if you can do that it'll change your life you really start making decisions and living your life like this all you got just this one day but you could be a winner you could be a winner on this day it just it's just work ethic and not the work ethic they talk about they tell you work ethic where they do all these movies i'm the hardest working man no everybody goes to work every day right yeah i'm saying i'm going to work all the time everybody who works goes to work every day shut up shut up you get what you think i respect you more than my gardener? I don't. I don't. He work every day. Rain or shine. I don't know if you saw this, but Taraji P. Henson got extremely emotional the other day.

She was giving an interview. Yes. And saying that they're vastly underpaid. It's a the math is not mapping. They get X amount of dollars by the time Uncle Sam get his cut, by the time the agency get their cut, and what you see they were supposed to get is a fraction of that. Where do you come down on that, Cat? It was the saddest thing ever because imagine, imagine being in your genre, in your sub-niche, whatever it is. Imagine being in your lane.

Imagine being one of the very top of your lanes to the point where if they don't take you for the role, there's not three black actresses that they can say are bigger than you that we're going to give this to. Imagine you being at that point and have to humble yourself and say, they're not paying me, y'all.

And they're not making my pay go up because I'm doing better or nothing it don't matter to them that I'm famous and people know me or nothing they want to pay me exactly what they paying the new girl and I've been suffering under it for a decade now and just taking it I just been getting whooped. But I just got to come say, this is wrong. We should be ashamed. But this is a country where we don't pay the teachers, and then we say to kids,

it's the most important thing. You can't have both of them. If you do that, we're going to end up with a generation that can't read. Guess what? Generation Z and A can't read. Why? Because who was giving them a book? We got an iPad or a phone.

And now the letters don't mean there's no cursive writing. Sorry about that. So, yeah, this is what period of time it's in. It's the period where the victims get to say they've been hurting me for a long time. And I just ain't said nothing because i was trying to be strong and i didn't want to shame anybody when our people call out for help we got to understand you know what i mean like like we we put too much pressure on tyler perry you know what i mean he ain't put nobody on the people that that been in his productions, they not famous. All of them can walk through the mall without security. Be what you're going to be, but put your people on.

If you a gay person and you in there, put some other gay people on. Put somebody on. Or don't be wondering why people keep saying gatekeepers. Because clearly, y'allall keeping these gates clearly while and out how difficult was it for nick cannon to get you on and what what was that what was that experience like i've known nick cannon since he was a teenager he had to have his he in the comedy club if if you're underage, you can't be in the regular club. You had to be in the kitchen. So I was the master of the kitchen every comedy place because I got a child and my child is back here in this place while I go on stage. So I've known

Nick Cannon since he was 14. Nick Cannon has never called and asked me to do one single thing. And I turned him down because I've known him since he was a young black child in Hollywood. Wow. So what I did in Wild N' Out was to be his protector and to be his voice with hip hop. So the whole thing was the thing that he was trying to do had never been done before. You can't bring six comics in and let six comics talk shit about six rappers because the six rappers will beat the six comics ass. Right.

You will have to have a comic that could actually stand in between and go, look, we comics, we gonna say say what we going to say. Y'all going to take it and understand it's a joke. If you want to fight, we fight before the show. So you can go out there with your black eye. We're not going to do it comedically.

This is what needed to take place in order for it to be successful, which is why it had already aired and didn't work. And then suddenly when it comes back with me, it suddenly works because respect has to be in there as well. If you're trying to do it with Kevin Hart, you and him going to get run over. You a teenager, he fine too. Like, what's going to happen?

Who are some of your favorite young comedians? I haven't seen a young comedian I don't like. If you name any of the young comedians, I'm aware of all of them, and they're all doing a great job. It doesn't matter if it's Country Wayne or Desi Banks. It doesn't matter if it's Carlos or Chico. It doesn't matter if it's DC or Just Hilarious. It really doesn't matter once we go to the young part.

The young comedians are dealing with things that we never dealt with and so that gives them more benefits but it also gives them more chances of failure so it's not easier for them so yeah I'm a big supporter of young comics we have miss pretty Ricky and Takara Williams I've taken 25 black women on the road in these tours. It's important to me that the young comic gets the benefits and the advantages of the big comics platform. Matt Rife, Wildin' Out, recently got canceled. You see Jonathan Major, what he went through, Marvel dropped him as soon as the guilty, the conviction came out. And you were telling the jury.

Hey, you saw that black woman come get his charge cut in half. Thank you, Megan Good. God bless you coming to save that slave. If he had to be there by himself, he was getting awful. Guilty, guilty, guilty, guilty. She came in there. It was just so beautiful. They had to knock half of it off. Bless his heart.

So, Matt Wright, you know him from Wildin' Out. He gets canceled for trying to tell a... I never knew him from Wildin' Out, to be honest. I came across him as a new comic. Okay. And, yeah, I'm really just trying to see the comics judge where they are see it yeah right go ahead so the the counseling uh what what do you

think about this council culture you see the situation with jonathan major i mean for all sense and purposes i don't know maybe he can bounce back in a couple of years but man he was he was hot he was hot he was cooking i mean you see him in Creed. He's in the Marvel movies. And then just like that, maybe I'm a conspiracy theory, but I thought Cal Williams said any time they make you into that position. Part of that contract is you do understand whenever we want to take you down, we can't. Right. is you do understand whenever we want to take you down, we can, right? It's part of giving you the world.

First of all, they went around the world for two years straight telling any women that would listen that this was a good-looking Negro. Mm-hmm. Since when? When did y'all start liking a big nose? And when did y'all like a little head and a big jaw? When? Since when?

That look like my daddy. When you start liking my daddy? You like black people's features like that? If this ugly nigga is good looking, then all niggas is good looking. Anytime you see them telling you something you can't believe, just understand it's a play. And it don't matter. You're going to know it's a play as soon as they get in that position and think they're going to tell somebody something. No, you're not.

No, you're not no you're not marvel will cancel you so you won't be allowed to read a comic book what is you talking about get out of here get out of here ugly boy yeah they love fooling the people what's your relationship like with shug knight you still close with shug have you spoken to him have you talked to him recently yeah he's doing good um yeah he's uh man when you a friend you friend for life with cat william yeah because the people that come to me are trying to better their life they're not trying to continue doing what they have been doing. Okay. So when somebody comes to me, male or female, it is in the auspices that this is what I did. This is what I used to do. This ain't what I want to do no more. And I want to do something

else. And I'd like it to go a different way. Okay. That's what I offer. Yeah. So if you come to me under those auspices, then my loyalty is lifelong. Why would it not be? Tori Lane and Meg, what would you take on that? Because I know you got to take on everything. It's a difficult position because

somebody's not going to tell the truth. And the truth has got to be told. In all circumstances, the truth has got to be told. So if you don't want to say she shot her, then you shot her. And that's the end of that. You said you've never have you ever spent time in jail? 30 times. When you was in there, what was going through your mind?

I mean, some people like, man, I had an opportunity to reflect. And I was like, man, this ain't the place for me. I ain't coming back here. I've never been in jail and it was my decision to be there. If it's dangerous to be in the hood and you have to have a gun on you for protection and it's either be judged by six or I mean judged by 12 or carried by six, I'm always going to have my heater on me. So if you want to tell me that you're going to pull me over 15 times looking for it, I'm going to tell you 15 times you're going to find it. Unfortunately, I smoke cigarettes and weed. If you catch me 15 times, 15 times times I'm going to have it on me.

What do you think I'm in jail thinking? Oh, I done fuck up. Damn these decisions. I'm not going to protect my life at all when I get out of here. Fuck it, let them do what they want to do to me. No, no, when I'm in there, I'm fine, and I'm understanding that I out of here. Fuck it. Let them do what they want to do to me. No, no. When I'm in there, I'm fine. And I'm understanding that I'm put here for a reason. And the people that get joy off me being in here are really going to look stupid because I'm finna be free

because you got to be setting this up. I'm never anywhere to get anything. You don't know. I just made three hundred thousand dollars in your city. That's why you think I might be out here as a ne'er-do-well. You think I'm, he's smoking weed. Yeah, he's got a medical license for it. He needs it. It's his only medication. Do you mind if he takes it? It helps him eat.

Because he does 1,900 city tours flying across the line and so he doesn't get hungry on the regular he doesn't get sleepy at night he's got to literally put himself to sleep he's only got to make himself eat so this marijuana helps him do both of those things marijuana help you sleep oh yeah because remember remember as a comedian what you're doing is against your natural timeline your natural timeline wouldn't be that you would start your work day at eight o'clock p.m right and then your work day is over at 2 30 a.m like that's a weird yes right so to tell your body now that we're pumped up on endorphins now let's go to sleep at three. It don't work like that. Your body has to try to get a whole new schedule.

So, you know, it suffered, but that's what worked for me. I consistently used it. I told people all across the country, don't worry, this will be legal in our country. As soon as they find out how to charge taxes for it we will be legal in this country do they view me as some sort of visionary for my forward thinking no no you own drugs okay but how you been i mean bro every time they try to put you down they try to put you to the back yeah you put you bounce up you move right back to the front. Damn, you, I mean, you like a Super Bowl. You just keep bouncing and then you bounce higher. Trampoline skin is something that you ask God for.

When I watched you play football, you had it. There's some people that there's really no such thing as hitting Shannon Sharp so hard that he don't want to run the ball the next play. Right. Absolutely. And if that's your only goal is to hit him so hard that you don't want to beat him no more, you just out of luck. Yeah, you're wasting your time. There's no, your coach can't help you.

There ain't no pep talk going to help you. Don't matter about the uniform, your cheerleading. None of that matters. If it ever gets to mano y mano, may the best man win. And if you've been living your entire life trying to be the best man that you can for yourself, then you

should feel great about those odds. What do you think about Kanye Rant? What's going on with Kanye? From a distance, obviously, I don't know how well you know Kanye. I don't know if you've been around Kanye, but from a distance, what do you suspect's going on?

I suspect that we're pretty awful people if we say that somebody got a mental illness and then we watch what they do. If you say somebody got special needs, then why would you be watching them and holding them accountable like everybody else? Wouldn't you grade them on a curve? Wouldn't you go, who whoo this guy because I mean what are we reacting to what are

we reacting to you're the one that put him in a position where he thought he was God and could call itself Jesus and you know what told a guy that writes musical lyrics that he was a genius you're the one that's like so what do you expect the guy married a whore like what i didn't mean it like that i mean married her because she was one now he didn't know he understood that he wanted that he courted that that's what he wanted the basis man we all good hard though I know what you go say don't you say it cat don't you say it I'm gonna move to college what I'm saying is not correct then how does she end up with Pete Davidson I mean it happens all the time and what if you weren't even good

enough for Pete and he leaves you? What do that mean the product was? No, I don't support or villainize Kanye because I don't understand what it is we want from him. I don't know why we look at a basketball player and say, he didn't score no hockey goals this whole season. He don't play hockey Kanye don't say nothing I can agree with Okay He was the weird guy in the beginning with the pink sweaters when we met him like what do you think?

moving to a beat of your own drop this I'm like, what do you think? Moving to a beat of your own drop. This dude started a church and kept cussing. Nobody in black church said nothing. You would have thought all the pastors would have came. You can't be no gospel artist. You just said, fuck that bitch.

Nobody said nothing. Because T.D. Jakes over there would be in it. Oh, come on, cat. Only the guy you had here has been upfront and honest and a man of God and humble and took the L's he had to take and didn't. I did see it was trending, though, but I ain't know why, Cat. I don't.

Let me go to this question right here. All people that love the truth got to be happy if the truth coming out and lies is getting exposed that's just what time it is 2024 folks are you related to uh luda no um so there was a crossroads where we were both invited to an illuminati thing and it had to be one or the other of us and decisions had to be made so it was both of us we were equal one of us had to cut off all their hair and couldn't do the sideburn thing no more with the points and the next person they said was going to get 200 million dollars because they were going to pay him 10 million a movie to do 20 movies and that's how the conversation

happened one of those persons turned out to be ludicrous and the other person turned out to be kat williams now one person ended up with a light-skinned ugly-faced wife that's never done it remember i told you that if i say that it applied to seven people it's part of what they give you. Okay? I didn't get it. I'm not mad about it. How much money did they give? Two hundred. Sir. Fast and Furious is on what number right now?

Ten. Two hundred million. I might need to get me one of them old women. Look the same. That's what they all end up saying at the end of the day. Kevin told you you wouldn't go wearing no dress until they offered him the dress and then he put it on.

And what did he say after he wore it? I made my own decision. Duh. But you didn't make it before they brought it up, did you? It's okay. All right. You have a lot of politics.

Never talk about it. I'm not that controversial. Where are we? Where are we headed? This is sad. We've never been here before. We've never been at the point where neither option is good for us in real life. No, this is a different conversation. This is would you rather go back with your ex or would you rather go back with the person before them both bad both bad options like one guy one guy can barely put his sentences together and the other guy will put sentences together from whatever he's read or whoever told him.

Like, but how do we how do we get here? How do we get here? All division divides. There's no way around that. All division divides politics. Even in the beginning, when our Constitution was drawn up, the the two parties was not what they had in mind. They always thought that it would be two main and another independent party.

They always assumed the independent party would be just as strong as the others. A lot of that just didn't happen. And that's what I've learned more from comedy is that Republicans laugh at the exact same thing that Democrats laugh at. As long as I'm talking to Democrats, I can make them laugh for one hour straight about what Republicans do. By the same token, I can go talk to Republicans for one whole hour and have them dying about the stuff that Democrats do. But at the end of the day, who does that?

Yeah, your team got an offense and a defense. They're not supposed to be enemies. The enemy is the other side. Well, you can't do politics like that. Nope. It's not good for the country. Man, you see this Mark Zuckerberg building his $270 million bunker. If you have a billion dollars, we have learned that you can do whatever

you want to do. When Elon Musk wants to send space, things in space, he don't have to ask nobody's permission. Congress don't meet. Senate don't meet. No police department got to be warned. He don't need a permit. None of that. If you got a billion dollars, you do what you want to do and then you tell them what you did. And that's how it goes. What do you know that we don't know, Cat?

Kim Jong Un? I don't know what you don't know. Do you understand that people that are not very bright are in charge of nuclear bombs all across the country? That's what he knows. He knows that 30% of all weapons systems are running off regular Wi-Fi. So what does that mean? That means if a solar flare or a meteor hits either one of those, literally a bomb can go off just because the system accidentally got turned off. Yeah, that's what he knows. The people that are in power know that the people that are running the most complicated and deadliest

things on the planet are just an average idiot. And you know lots of idiots. I do. Yep. And these people are not special. Back in the day they were. Yeah. Not today. Not today. You say

you smoke a little weed. You don't smoke with Snoop. Yeah. I'm actually a bigger smoker than Snoop. He'll tell you that. But I don't mix anything with my weed. I just do weed, right? So, yeah, nobody has. That minimum, I mean.

Nobody does 20 blunts a day like me for 30 years. Like, I was the first person to have a weed roller, like somebody whose job it was. Like, I haven't rolled a blunt in 20 years. You probably have. Like, if you go, I'm saying I prefer the saliva of ladies. Oh, my goodness. No, no, understand what I'm saying. For a blunt, it's necessary for it to get licked.

Right? And so if you had spent 20 years smoking with dudes, that's a lot of male saliva that you would have just accidentally ingested. But the fire done killed him. I can't be this specimen on that. It takes the saliva of this specimen on that it takes the Saliva of nice ladies on that but yeah, I'm a yeah, that's all I do Do you consider yourself a king of comedy?

Where the word is no they they consider that like like when after Bernie left them same three guys I'm telling you about the Kings kings, right? Because DL is the greatest. No DL slander gets tolerated. But they came to me. I was supposed to be the fourth king. I got the offer, but I turned it down. Why? Because you shit

on Bernie. And I know the truth. You think I'm going to let you shit on Bernie and then come get me? I'm the next king? Fuck you. Why? Because the whole time Bernie was here, you was acting like you was funnier than him. The reason you was supposed to go last is because it was your tour.

Tell the truth. It was Steve's tour. Not it was going to be called the Kings of Comedy. It was Steve's tour. These are the guys opening for him. Of course you gotta close if it's your tour that's why it was such a big deal but you couldn't do it because you can't beat the best and until you humble yourself you will forever be kinged by the king

and because you finally did it because you had no other choice and now that he gone you go ahead like he wanted to be a movie star you stop it you stop it that man was funnier than all of y'all and y'all thought y'all had one over on him you thought he was black and ugly and you were good looking and he couldn't make it because you did and that ain't the way comedy works. The king is the funniest. Period. Every time. And that's why no audience member was ever swayed. It didn't matter where Bernie went.

You think if Bernie went first, he wasn't the king? Get out of here. Get out of here. Get your ego out of this. You let the best be the best right can't wait you related gentleman thanks for coming on bro i really appreciate that thanks for sharing them thank you the stories setting the record straight now you know they're gonna double back impossible impossible only because if once you play this back you'll realize i didn't say anything that made me look in a good light. I wasn't tearing down others to boost myself up.

But I do have to acknowledge things that did not take place. Like we're very ingenuous if we say this is not a game and we don't play it and people ain't in positions and people don't have their favorites and they group and they click. But that happens in all businesses. Say what side you on. Say why you don't like the other side and then get to the game. But in the game,

I'm wiping the field with them to the point where they don't even compete anymore. So how you gonna let a dude that been on the bench for 15 years? I would have beat Jordan's ass. Shut up. Jordan is still alive. We'll call Jordan right now. You can't beat him now. Not then. You can't beat him now. Right. Cat Williams. Shannon Sharp appreciate you bro appreciate you

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