Club Shay Shay - Katt Williams, Stephen A. Smith, Marshawn Lynch, Cam Newton, Mo’Nique & MORE - Viral Moments Vol. 1

Episode Date: June 16, 2024

This special episode takes a look back at some of the most viral moments that happened on Club Shay Shay. Enjoy this trip down memory lane and prepare for more captivating conversations with Shannon Sharpe because you never know who’s going to stop by The Club… 0:00 - Katt Williams On Diddy, Harvey Weinstein, R. Kelly and Michael Jackson 14:27 - Brittany Renner's Body Count Left Shannon Sharpe Speechless & Talks Derek Jeter Dating Diamond 22:02 - Marshawn Lynch Laughed In Pete Carroll’s Face When Russell Wilson Threw Super Bowl 49 Interception 36:52 - Charles Barkley On Michael Jordan’s Son Dating Scottie Pippen’s Ex-Wife & Talks MJ vs Scottie Feud 46:34 - Mo’Nique On Kevin Hart 55:42 - Kountry Wayne On Jess Hilarious 1:05:04 - Cam Newton Paid $180K by Auburn? He Clears The Air & Explains Why He'll Never Go To Heisman Ceremony 1:29:08 - Stephen A. Smith & Shannon Sharpe On Skip Bayless #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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TG, Jakes, any of them. All lies will be exposed. That's all. And anyone who takes that the wrong way, know why they take it the wrong way. The truth is the light. I need to have another one of these. Amen, amen. Cheese.

I kind of get on here. Right. After that, I don't really kind of know where to go. Let me one more time. Right. We good now? Because the people want to know, why would he get blackballed? Yeah.

I was going to ask you that. Because in 30 years, I've done nothing but collect information, knowledge, and your secrets. So if you and a man was in a corner doing something you wasn't supposed to be doing. You will tell it. No, somebody come to tell me. Okay. I gather that. I value that.

I'll pay for that. Come tell me. I know so many things. I should know it. And they all know it. They all know it. Why? Because you don't make me the villain. Not the guy that raises black children and they never done a hard drug in his life and don't have no stories of doing nobody dirty. And they'll just go out and they'll lie. The industry doesn't mess with Cat because he didn't show up for the studio.

No studios have ever said that. Look at my IMDB. It will show you that no studio has ever lost money with me on the script. How? That's why I'm saying that's why I can't let Ricky Smiley say he was supposed to play Money Mike because I wrote the words for Money Mike. I designed the hair for Money Mike. I collaborated with the wardrobe department and made outfits to make sure that no one in America would be wearing for Money Mike. I collaborated with the wardrobe department and made outfits to make sure that no one in America would be wearing what Money Mike was wearing. I told them to go get the prowler. I then told them to paint it purple. I told them don't have an actor playing a pimp. We could get an actual pimp Archbishop Magic Don Juan to play. Like, I did far too much work for somebody to come years later and try to tag along just for their own self-aggrandizement.

Why didn't Cube set the record straight? Terry Crews could have set the record straight. Mike Epps could have set the record straight. Why none of them set the record straight? That's what you were supposed to ask him when he told you those lies that no one's ever heard. But I didn't go over the lie. Right, but he's telling you something no one's ever heard of. Nobody has ever heard, oh, Ben Affleck and Matt Damon was in a movie,

and somebody said, y'all should switch roles. Like, this is a business. But that's the thing, Cat. Normally when people will give you information, I'm thinking I'm hearing it for the first time, and they're giving information no one else knows or has ever heard. So I'm taking them at face value. These are like this is like Steve Harvey telling people he used to be homeless That's my story. That's not his story. Steve Harvey was never homeless when he Mark Curry was touring with him 25 years ago He was making $3,000 a show in cash and doing five shows a week

$10,000 a show in cash and doing five shows a week. They just tell the stories. Thanks to my wife, I'm where I am. You said that about the first wife. You forget that? You told us it was her. Then you went and married somebody else that think like a man. Like, what are you talking about?

They think they can rewrite history. Guy Torrey did a beautiful special about the comedy store in fat tuesday where he said that steve and cedric and kevin hart and tiffany haddish came through there and made all lies steve and cedric never performed at the comedy store at all tiffany was only seen at the laugh factory in 15 years in hollywood one in Hollywood has a memory of going to a sold out Kevin Hart show. There being a line for him ever getting a standing ovation at any comedy club. He already had his deals when he got here. Have we heard of a comedian that came to L.A. and in his first year in L.A. he had his own sitcom on network television and had his own movie called Soul Plane that he was leading

No, we've never heard of that before that person or since that person. What do you think a plant is? Maybe people don't understand the definitions of these words He just did his documentary with Chris Rock where he shows you that his whole upbringing in comedy was on the East Coast. Yeah, it was. So how simultaneously was he here in Los Angeles doing the same thing? It didn't happen. It didn't happen. And I hate to seem like a petty individual for picking apart lies.

But Jussie Smoll small they gonna keep lying until you say we don't believe you like it's important in the checks and balances of the universe that liars not get to make complete narratives for themselves are you not afraid about being blackballed again these are some power people what do you mean again? These people are not powerful. Satan can't create anything. That includes blessings for his people. That's why, you know what the number one job of somebody that sold their soul

in Hollywood is? What? Is to act like it didn't happen. They all do the same job. Why do you think Gary Owen can't cross over and he already white and been in comedy for 25 years? If what I say ain't the case, it's a cabal. It's a it's a consortium. They they rock with who they rock with and they don't with who they don't.

But I'm not scared of being the competition any more than you were when you lined up across from a superior team. Yeah, on paper, they're a better team. Right. They have all the assets and resources, and we don't. But let us get on the line, boy, boy, and see if that factors in. I guarantee you it won't. Wow.

Because Shannon Sharp got to be a different person than that other person. Absolutely. And he always was. That doesn't change when I change teams. That remains the same. That's how a legacy is built. So all of these shortcut takers, I was they'd cancel me for talking about Harvey Weinstein before the thing came out. But he offered to suck my penis in front of all my people at my agency. What am I supposed to do? He did all of that.

I'm thinking I'm the only black person on the script. I get there. There's three other black guys on there. Woo. Huh. So you wonder what they need to get done. I told him no. What y'all do?

And this is why when I walk in a room, heads go down. Behind my back. I'm nothing. I'm just a regular old comedian that's bitter and jealous. But in my face, no, no, no. The king has walked in and they have to respect it only because I'm not taking the shortcuts. I've not been funded. They pay you to not talk about things they don't want you to talk about. They tell you that themselves. I can't do that because Steve told you that he stopped doing stand up because he has seven TV shows. The only problem is where he stopped stand up. He didn't have those seven TV shows. He stopped stand up because he got in a comedy battle called the Championship of Stand-Up Comedy with one Cat Williams in Detroit in front of 10,000 people and lost because Cat Williams said he was actually bald and that was a wig. And I went in and that's why he couldn't do stand-up

anymore. Imagine him coming to tell you another story where he got so big and it was Bernie and them's fault because they wanted to be movie stars. What? You called Ocean Eleven to get that nigga's part. What do you mean you didn't want to be a movie star? So on behalf of Bernie, I will have to say what I have to say. Have you ever been on tour with any of these guys every guy I mention to you is not funny out there in real life

so no Faison's never done his own tour in 30 years Steve Harvey don't do stand up no more Cedric doesn't write I'm sorry he doesn't write. I'm sorry. He doesn't write. Ricky Smiley has been playing the same old black woman forever. Like you can't get a young fan base with that. Like you got to be doing karaoke around the country to make that work.

Right. And he is. But I'm a stand up comedian. And he is. But I'm a stand up comedian. This is my 19th 100 city tour. I'm not going to have a conversation with these lazy bums that will take a shortcut at any point. Yes, it's easier for you to juice than to get in the gym. But you don't get to bring that body in here talking crazy about how good you look. that body in here talking crazy talk about how good you look what no no there's too many comics out there that are putting their life on the line to tell these jokes man okay let's get to your upbringing we're gonna circle back and we'll get i want to protect you real quick because you had said for the kings of comedy it was in 2018. But did you mean 1999?

Because it came out in 2000. So I just want to make sure. No, no, no. So what I meant to say was, remember, he said I couldn't do stand-up anymore. I had seven TV shows. I say he didn't have any of those TV shows at the time. I know. He's talking about Cedric. Joke stealer from Cedric.

Yeah, Cedric. So you have said that 2018, 2019, but it came out in 2000, so I just want to make sure. Okay, no, no, no, no. No. What comes out in 2000? The original Kings of Comedy.

Right. I'm on BET's Comic View, and they're using this as the commercial in 1998. That's why I'm saying, yeah, so if I said the dates wrong, yeah, so. Yes so let's go and clear that up okay you said yeah i had cedric on here and i asked him about the joke stealing and he

said the timeline doesn't add up correct to your to to that point you say right so he thought that i was just a no-name comedian and that he could take this joke and nobody would know right the issue was that I had already done this particular joke on BET's comic view twice right it had done so well on BET's comic view that they had made it part of the commercial so part of the commercial of make sure you tune in to BET was you seeing me doing this joke. And this joke is one of those jokes in comedy where you set it up and it takes a little longer to set it up. Takes about three minutes. But then you're just hitting them with jokes after that because you don't have to set it up. Right. Mark Curry had already helped me work on this joke because I thought it was good because I was getting a standing ovation on it.

He had me go back in the lab to help me craft it to be an even more powerful joke. So this is not just a random joke. This is my very best joke. And it's my last joke. And it's my closing joke. Okay. 1998. I'm doing this joke. It's on Comic View. Cedric comes to the comedy store. He watches me in the audience. He comes backstage. He tells me what a great job I did and how much he loves the joke. Two years later, he's doing that as his last joke on the Kings of Comedy. And he's doing it verbatim. He's just changed my car into a spaceship. He's doing it verbatim. He's just changed my car into a spaceship.

Him and Steve had already apologized for me, so I gave him a pass for a decade. Why would you sit here and be like, I talked to, I saw Cat 30 times, and Cat didn't do, as I stand before you, Shannon. I would have bust Cedric's stomach. There was nothing that would have kept me from one of these in that patch right there.

Like, are you kidding me? Why would you downplay me like that? Why did I give you a pass if you were just gonna lie? And so that's what I'm saying, like they're all a group. Cedric, Steve, Ricky, they've been a group. Everybody knows that. They've been aligned and there are these alliances in comedy and if you stand against them, then they sometimes have a problem. But we don't let that change the content because that's all you know me for, is that I'm quite likely to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth. So help me God. Now I've had to turn down $50 million four times,

four times just to protect my integrity and that virgin hole I was telling you about. Right. Cause P Diddy be wanting to party and you to tell him no. You got to tell him no. I did. I did. See, I got the receipts for everything I'm telling you. That's why I can say them so freely. Kid, I need another one. Here, get you another one too, kid.

Thank you, sir. Thank you. Come on. Because early on, you was accusing me of being... Kid, man. It's crazy. Because I'm favored by God. Like, when I see people's wives and stuff i don't even

look at them you know what i mean like i don't want to look at nothing i don't want to have because i i know how blessed i am if i look at it i got it that's how did he be feeling come on so you're not supposed to look at anything that you don't want. Not me personally, just because God has given me literally everything I ever even pump faked like I want. And that's the whole thing. That's that's the whole thing is I don't I don't have a type of woman. Every woman that I ever had as a type, I ended up getting her. Now she's not the type anymore.

Now I understand that every woman is a one of one. Like, you can't really have types. Then you have to go back to when there was the Derek Jeter diamond. That's what my track record's like. But Derek Jeter gets a segment on ESPN where they have his dating history in the... Let me finish, though.

No, I didn't say nothing. You were thinking it. You were thinking it. I'll get some water because I'm sweating. So, because my dating pool is... I mean, my God. Expansive? Impressive.

Expansive. I've had sex with 35 guys. Okay? Oh, Lord. Impressive isn't the word. So if I'm judged for having... Anybody else need a shot of this? If I'm judged for having great taste...

We are in a bar, so help yourself. We got this for the next hour. If I'm judged for having great taste, although someone like Derek Jeter, for example, who had his dating diamond... Why would you feel a need that you... You can be honest to yourself. I know how many men I slept with.

That ain't for everybody else. But why did you feel you need, why did you feel that needs to be for public consumption? That's what, that's, that's, I mean, the crux of this. That's what I, you mind if I sit to the edge of my seat? You don't gotta ask for permission, this is. Why did you, why would you feel the need to share that information with the public?

Some things are left best unsaid. Mm, that's what I hear hmm probably the same reason that I wrote a book because I felt called to share there are some things that may be moving forward I would keep to myself but I mean I just told you I had sex with 35 guys that's an updated number for people who have been following the number for years now so uh now i mean obviously guys sliding your dm um trying to holler do you slide in guys dm not anymore you used to why probably there were probably two or three guys over the over the span

of being like 22 to now right probably about three guys over the span of being 22 to now. Right. Probably about three guys. Did they respond? Of course they did. Well, there are some that didn't respond. But that was... They left you on read? There are some guys left me on read. But it was like right after my breakup with my child's father.

And I was kind of being facetious. Yeah, that wasn't nice. You try to be... See, you see... Why you do that? But anyways... Why you... No, no, no.

I ain't no anyways. I want to know why. Why would you do that? Well, sure. I'm ready to move on. No, but you dead no no no anyways I want to know why why would you do that well sure I'm ready to move on no but you but no honestly I didn't I didn't understand the magnitude of what I was about to go through and I'm like oh I'm single you know he's moved on like why is it different for both of us you know what I'm saying like we we have we share a young child right why is me having a young child or whatever but that whole situation being completely demonized I had no idea what I was doing when I was trying to like here and there just like telling guys they were just fine that was just kind of it it wasn't like yeah we should be real whatever it was just like I've always wanted to tell you this

but you know like like basketball players are off limits right NBA players any NBA players off limits right no no right? No, no, no, no You can't do that You try the whole sport the whole NBA. You got to go to Europe You gotta go to you better go learn Chinese buddy You know that's go man, how does it you know what that's gonna do. What do you mean? Cause. A whole sport? Yes.

And besides, you say you done with athletes anyway. Mm-hmm. I mean, I, trust me, I ain't losing any sleep over it. Because, no, you gotta stay away from them. Cause it's gonna be, because people assume, and this might not even be the case, you might sincerely love him he might sincerely love you but you know how it's going to be portrayed oh she's trying to get back at it

and he probably will take it as if you're trying to get at me what i've had to take accountability for is that i had to shrink myself to fit into a world of his that I was never meant to fit in and you have to understand this goes back to the pattern of when I was at Jackson State okay I abandoned everything left my whole life moved across the country you know back to or going back to Michigan I lived in Woodland Hills had my condo had my Ben's left California moved to Charlotte to be with him. The same pattern 10 years later. Because again, here I am thinking that a man is going to fix, this is the missing piece to my puzzle.

So despite what people think about the complete buffoonery that has gone on between him and I, that is never anything I wanted. I had to stand up for myself after months of being lied on that I was faking it all along and all these different things. This is such a popular topic years later because the lie ran around the world. So did it hurt initially when the guy that I thought was my guy proposes to the next person? Absolutely. That's happened to me a couple times. So it's one of those triggering things where full transparency, you're like,

well, what's wrong with me? Why wasn't I enough? And then we start to internalize why it didn't work out. I've sat down with his fiance. We've had a four-hour conversation out for brunch, and I think they're a perfect match for each other, quite frankly. So why would I be jealous or envious of a life that I walked away from but the other side of that coin is understanding that was never my guy we were meant to have our incredible son together that I'm he's literally changed my life in every way I grew deeper empathy after having a son but for men but that's why I can't get upset I get upset at how I'm treated are you betrayed you lied on me that's How you're portrayed. You lied on me.

That's what bothers me, is that you lied on me. You tried to make it seem like something it wasn't. That was hurtful. But other than that, I'm happy for you. Blessings on your journey. I heard you just say that what he said about you bothered you? The portrayal of you bothered you? Have you thought about when your son is of age

and he can hear some of the things that you said about some of the things that you've done in your past? Do you, have you thought about how that's gonna impact him? Of course I've thought about it. But as much as I love my son, I love myself. I can't saturate myself from my child. I have to still be true to myself because outside of being his mother, I'm Brittany Renner.

I was Brittany Renner before he got here and I'm gonna be Brittany Renner no matter what. My son could grow up and, oh, my mom, all these terrible things. She's the worst person ever. So I have to be at peace with the things that I've done and let my son make his own choice, his own decisions. But I'm not going to not live my life the way that, again, because to question how I am, it's to question God. And people may not like the way that, like how my expression is, the way I carry myself, the things that I say and how I say it,

but you're still questioning God. Marshawn, we got to talk about it. Super Bowl 49. Oh shit. Oh, you getting right. Russ come on down one knee, cause Russ get down on one knee when he in the huddle. And you hear the play, cuz you on the one yard line, Marshal. You on the one yard line.

Russ in the huddle. And he's calling out the play. What's going through your mind? Shit, to be honest, I look at nine of the other guys and they look at me like, what the fuck just happened? And I mean, you know, at the time. Even as he's calling the play in the huddle, because they were, look, you got one yard. We got the man that, we got, we got beast mode.

We got 225, 35 pounds sledgehammer. What's happening? And we got a timeout. So if we don'tedgehammer. What's happening? And we got a timeout. So if we don't get it, What's happening? If we don't get it on this first, second down, we gonna get it on third,

we gonna get it on fourth, we gonna get this ball in there. But B's gotta touch it. B's gotta have it. What's happening? Man, the look on all my teammates' face in the huddle,

you know, it spoke volumes. And processing the shit, if you go back and you look at the play, I actually lined it. Because I'm processing. I'm lining up on the wrong side. I'm lining up on the wrong side, man. Rosa got to tell you. I'm bouncing from back and forth behind like, oh shit. And by the time Ed sat in, like, motherfucker, what did we just call? You just hear all the cheering from the other sideline like, what the fuck?

So you didn't know Malcolm Butler had picked the ball up? Man, nah, because they sent me on the flat. Yeah, you were. Yeah. You feel me? I'm running out there like, shit, well, at least you're going to hit me in the flat. Yeah, yeah. And I get my head around.

He ain't tackling you one on one. What the fuck you want? Like, what's... What happened back there? I don't see you one on one. What the fuck you want? Like what's… What happened back there? I don't see no ball coming on. Alright. And see them motherfuckers jumping up and down and cheering like… Oh shit.

He just threw a pick. And at that time, you know, there was a lot of shit going on. You know what I mean? So, as you're walking off the field… Oh man. And at that time, you know, there was a lot of shit going on. You know what I mean? So as you're walking off the field, the defense is coming on the field. Oh, God. So was there any interaction? Did anybody say anything?

Did the defense say, man, what the F was that? Who called that bulljack? Now that we look back at it, you see everybody, you know, they show the reaction. I mean, you see the reaction. Sher show the reaction yeah i mean you see the reaction sherm earl bruce yeah i mean the d-line all the you see the reaction from everybody and then as i'm going back to the sideline uh you know i go by russ and i just hear him like oh man like i'll get him next time whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And as I hear the shit, I don't really, I usually don't take my helmet off, but you know, I take my helmet off and I go right to Pete Carroll's face and I'm talking about, I hit his ass with the biggest. You laughed at his face?

What the? And at that point, shit, I'm up out my shit. I go to the locker room. I'm out. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on. I don't see all the shit going on. I don't see none of this shit.

I don't see the last few plays. Where they getting the scuffling and they pushing and shoving. You was already gone? I'm in the fucking. You in the locker room? I'm in the locker room. So by the time they come to the locker room, you probably already dreaded it. It was Arizona. I think I ran in the

many Kraviks. Oh, shit! Hey, what's up, man? You looking like... Don't you got a game? Oh, yeah, that shit over. Get in the locker room. Hey.

Call my mama and call the family. Hey, come on. We back to the spot. All right. Go in there, get dressed. Go shower, get dressed. And as I'm coming out, now you see everybody else coming in. I mean, I'll holla at y'all when you get back to the spot. Why? Why didn't they give you that ball?

Why did Darryl Bevel call a pass play? Why did Pete Carroll not overrule him? What happened? Did they not want you to get that MVP? Man, I have no idea. And from the understanding I got is... Nobody taking accountability for neither one of them.

They put it off on each other, so I don't know. Okay. I don't know what the fuck they are going on. Hold up. Russ put it off on Pete, Pete put it off on Russ,

or was it coordinator and head coach? Nah, coordinator and head coach, they pass it back to each other from, that's when they talking to me, so I don't know how I play.

But at the end of the day, yeah, that shit was, you know, that shit was painful because you got to think like, no matter what, in any sport you play, what you do, especially now,

running back, saying, okay, when you a little jit, you set up, you know, pillow here, pillow here, chair here, maybe a lamppost here. Like, okay.

And then you start going. It's the end of the game. One more play. The quarterback hand the ball off to Marshawn. He jump in the end zone, touchdown. Oh, the Oakland Raiders win the Super Bowl. I'm a Raiders fan. I'm from Oakland, California.

So, you know, you put it together. You put that play together so many times. You play that. You play that so many times. So not only did they take a, you know, a ring. They took a moment away from you. A moment. They took a dream.

Wow. You know what I mean? Like I say, that's a once-in-a-lifetime situation. Have you gotten over it? To be honest with you, now that, you know, we at 10 years, we had a 10-year reunion for the Super Bowl and just thinking like, damn, we could have been doing this again next year. Next year.

And there's no telling. Like, you know, you took a dream away. You took a moment away you arguably take a dynasty you take a dynasty away you know i mean because then you you know you in position to hey we went two superbowls maybe i don't want to be the highest paid corner or the highest paid safety or the highest paid receiver. No, spread that cheese through the whole team so we can bring everybody back and we could go try to do three, maybe four. Let's see what we can get out of it.

So, I mean, you know, not only do you, you know, you take away all that shit, but, you know, you put us in the history books as the dumbest call in football history. in the history books as a dumbest call in football history. And then, I mean, you know, for my situation on the other end of it, you know what I mean, it's going to be an everlasting question that I'm going to get. Why they ain't giving you the ball? Is that the question that you get asked the most?

When people meet Marshawn Lynch and everybody knows who you are, is that the first question out of, they're like, hey, how you doing, Marshawn? Man, why they ain't give you that ball? Hell no, it ain't no, hey, Marshawn, and everybody knows who you are. Is that the first question out of they're like, hey, how you doing, Marshawn? Man, why didn't they give you that ball? Hell no, it ain't no, hey, Marshawn, how you doing? It's, hey, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? Hey, was you Marshawn Lynch? You look just like Marshawn Lynch. Like, nah, I ain't Marshawn Lynch. Oh, my bad. I didn't mean to ask you that. I thought

you was Marshawn Lynch. Because I was going to say, man, if you was Marshawn Lynch, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? Nah, I'm Marshawn. Man, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? No, I'm Marshawn. Man, why the fuck they didn't give you the ball? Oh, shit. Fuck, I don't know. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal.

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the truthful answer behind that. But is there any answer he could give you now to satisfy you? I mean, at this point, I wouldn't know know now that it's been so much time in between it probably wouldn't even matter because you know everything i've heard all the everybody says well they didn't want beast mode to be the mvp pete wanted it to be russell the nfl wanted it to be russ whatever the case may be. But it doesn't make sense. I mean, I played the game for a long time.

It doesn't make sense to me. I got 235-pound sledgehammer back there, and I'm going to throw a pass on the one-yard line. Yeah, it just don't make sense. You almost scored on the play before. You ran it down to the one. You damn right. You know what I mean? So, realistically, like, when I when I think about it

I'm in a position to where you feel me I don't get you know upset right frustrated with it but more so curious like you know cuz then you know you got all the possibilities did they not want you to be the right the Super Bowl MVP because if you Super Bowl MVP then you the face of the NFL they don't want you know want that to be the case or whatever. But at that point. And when they have special occasions, they bring all Super Bowl winners back, and they out there.

Let me ask you this. How long did it take you to get over not getting the ball? You know what? Realistically, it was immediately. Because the thing is, if you're going ask anybody that ever played with me, they'll tell you he really played for the team type shit. So it was a part of me who wanted to be selfish, like give me the ball type shit, but at the end of the day, knowing the work that all these individuals put in, if know what I mean? If Locke catch that ball, that's my nigga.

So you feel me? Right. I'm happy for him. But in the grand scheme of just football, that shit don't make no sense. Right. But as far as, you know what I mean? Because I'll never come and intentionally be no hater towards nobody, but just certain shit makes sense and certain shit don't.

That just don't make no sense. It's not a good football. It's not a football decision. It's not a good football IQ. Now that I'm thinking about it, it's not. Was that the play that ended the Seattle Seahawks? Most definitely. And they're suffering still to this day.

I had a podcast at the time called Milding Off, and I went on that Monday, and I said, they'll never be the same. I said, they won't look at Pete the same. I said, they realize what, because a lot of teams win one in a row. To be special, you win back-to-back Super Bowls because there have been so few that have done it.

I said they will never believe in Pete the same way again. And it's like you know I mean like when a dope thing get that first high they gonna chase that motherfucker. You search for that. It's called chasing the drag. Chase that motherfucker and now you got a situation where, I believe, where you look at it like, that motherfucker is almost like he's trying to chase and rebuild that team that he had rather than moving forward and letting the guys that he got be the guys.

Yeah, you're not going to do that. You're not going to get a Sherm. I mean, you got a Sherm. You got a rookie Sherm and an Earl Thomas and a Cam Chancellor. I mean, you got a rookie Sherm and an Earl Thomas and a Cam Chancellor, and you got B-Wags and you got KJ and you got Bennett and you got Averill and you got Red. I bet, bro, you're not going to recreate that. You're not.

But as long as you chasing that and you're not building these individuals to be the greatest player that they can be, you're going gonna keep on you know repeating history because he got some guys who I believe can play right but if you got in your mind that you want you know really to be a Michael Bennett or you got your guy you want him to be a Marshawn or like no you can't do that but the thing is if you going and growing that guy to be the best him then it probably give yourself a better chance you feel me because they got some dudes over there who i really

yeah i mean i'm you get that i like yeah i mean but as long as in their mindset they trying to get him to to be the goddamn 2013 uh seahawks whatks. What was your relationship with Pete like? And are there any similarities between John Gruden and Pete Carroll? But what was your relationship like with Pete? My relationship with Pete was interesting. Because, I mean, the thing is, like, I like Pete as a coach because he get motherfuckers ready to go. Yeah. That's the truth.

Yeah. You feel me? And he the same way every day. But there was just certain things about Pete. Like, you know what I mean? He was, like, really, ah, da, da, da. Yeah. And I, you know what I mean?

Like, for me, I don't need that. Right. To get going. That's why I said. He like a high school coach. On Sunday? Yeah. We play Sunday.

Oh, we got a Tuesday night game? Okay, cool. Let me know when the game is, and I'm going to be ready. All the extra shit, I don't need it. Right. I don't need all of that to get ready to get to go. But a lot of guys can feed into that. And I've seen it, and it worked.

So you feel me? I'll never go against the grain, like, oh, fuck him, and this, that, and the third. Because, no, he's a great motivator, and get motherfuckers ready. But it was just that I didn't need that. And I don't think he understood where I was coming from. That I don't need to be high who who who and all that in order to be ready. And you know, I believe he wanted me to be a part of that type of environment, but that

just wasn't my speed. So that kind of got us to, I mean, headbutting a little bit for the misunderstanding. But the thing was, I always told him like, man, I ain't gonna never go against the misunderstanding. But the thing was, I always told him, like, man, I ain't going to never go against the ground. I ain't going to never tell nobody not to, you know what I mean, listen to what you got going on. But that shit just not for me. So, you know what I mean, if you're going to be having meetings or whatever, you know

what I mean, we came to an understanding. If we having a meeting and you not telling me specifically, like, Marshawn on this play, we need you to do X, Y, and Z. Then, you know, I'm probably not going to come to that meeting. Because, you know, I know what you're going to be in there doing. You're going to be in here high-hiving, busting jokes, and doing all the funny shit. You know what I mean? I'm ready to play football.

So, when it comes down to that, then let me know. Once we got that understanding. You were cool. Yeah. Once we got that understanding you cool. Yeah, Michael son Marcus it was I don't know if he currently still is dating Scotty's ex-wife Yeah, how would you feel if a teammate of yours? Dated your daughter Would you feel some type of weight? Oh hell? Yeah All right That is a really,

I feel bad for Michael. I feel bad for Scotty. Yes. That is so messy. I don't like messy because when it's messy, everybody has an opinion on it.

Everybody has an opinion on it. Everybody has an opinion. And you know, the internet is not a place for messy. No. And you have to understand, it's a lot of kids involved. Yes. And people are mean. People are mean.

And it's unfortunate. You know, I just got onto social media because I didn't want to be around the meanness. And I feel bad for everybody involved because I see all the pictures. I don't do the comment stuff, but I know they're going to be mean. Right. But it's just, I just hate messy.

And it's just really messy. And there are no winners. There's only losers. Mm-hmm. Because obviously Michael and Scotty's relationship can't ever be the same. Right. Did you know, was it the last dance when Michael put that, because he wasn't there at the time when Scotty refused to go in the game.

And he inserted that into the last dance. Did you always know that Scotty and Michael had this kind of contentious relationship? Because from the outside, it looked pretty good. Yeah, I was surprised it was so bad. Okay. I was surprised. But in fairness, I didn't spend a ton of time

with those guys together. I spent a lot more time with Michael. A lot more time with Michael. You know, it's just a sad situation because I think if you, not that I know, but you know, if you

win a championship with guys, y'all probably have a special bond for life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think if you win six, y'all probably have a special bond for life yeah yeah yeah yeah i think if you win six y'all might as well y'all should be brothers brothers i like so like i say you know if you win one championship i'm pretty sure every time y'all get together because you got to you're gonna have the reunion yeah every you first every five you're 15, 20, 30. But if you're wearing six together, y'all should be damn near blood brothers. That's the thing I most feel

bad. There's guys I didn't wear shit with. They're some of my best friends. Every time I see them, it's like, man, I got another brother. We bump into each other at all the star games, maybe the Hall of Fame ceremony, or we just bump into each other. It's like games maybe the hall of fame ceremony or we just bumping each other right it's like a family reunion right but if i had won six championship with somebody

i would think man we blood brothers for life when when people that do what we do take shots at you i mean you had the funny back and forth you and shaq had the funny back and forth. You and Shaq had the funny back and forth. You put Kendrick Perkins' face on the punching bag, and you punch it, and you get in shape. I mean, how do you handle that when guys that do what we do take shots at you? Yeah, it doesn't bother me, because

I guess technically we take shots at players. Right. The only problem that I had with what Kendrick says, there's nobody in the world watch more basketball than me uh i tell you like and i had just come out of march magic which pissed me off even more because i was watching two or three college basketball games a day right march madness it really sucks because i'm watching games all day long right Right. But to say another guy's don't watch the games.

Because he has a different opinion than yours. Yeah, yeah. And so that's the only thing that bothers me. I say there's nobody in the world who watches more basketball than me. But I don't get mad. And the thing that's really funny about it, Shaq is so sensitive at times. Right. Because I was is really funny about it. Shaq is so sensitive at times. Right. Because I was going to like let it go.

And he's like, no, no, no. My mama told me growing up, we kill all roaches. And I said, like, so that's how the whole roasting came up. Right. And so anytime anything happened right now, Shaq's like, we're killing roaches. And Shaq is so crazy. He made a rap diss song. Yeah. But I don't take it like, I really, the only person I've taken shots at, honestly, is Skip Bayless.

Because, man, what we do is such an honor. I don't think you can say stuff just to say it because my whole going back then i says hey man there's somebody in montana maine south dakota if i said something bad about these guys they're like well i saw on television. It's got to be true. Right. So I'm be like, man, I'm not going to say anything about a player, especially if it's personal. There's somebody in Montana or South Dakota going to say, well, you know, Charles Barker said this guy was blah, blah, blah. So I'm never going to use my platform for negativity. I'm going to get you out of on this one.

You once said that you probably lost about $20 million in gambling. Have you quenched that urge to gamble, or do you still like to gamble? I love to gamble. I don't like to gamble. You know, I got to the point. So I would go to Vegas and I'd win a million dollars. Damn!

I mean, what you playing a hand? 25, 30, 40 thousand? I played 25 thousand a hand. Okay. Yeah. Couple quick double downs, you can get that. Yeah, and quick double downs,

you can get it up out your pockets. I never, I don't want no check. I don't want you to wire. I want cash.. I don't want you to wire. I want cash and there's probably been Seven times that I want a million dollars, okay There's probably been

25 times I've lost a million. Right. So what happened was I quit gambling for two years. And I always take the same group of guys for me and I said, man, I miss gambling. They're like, why don't you start gambling again? I said, well, man, I was getting out of hand. They're like, yo, man, your gambling ain't

getting out of hand. You're just an idiot. Right. And the one thing I pride myself on around my friends, they can always be honest with me. I said, why you say I'm an idiot? They're like, yeah, man, we'll be sitting there. You'll be up $300,000, $400,000. And we're like, Chuck, let's go. You're good for the night.

Right. And in my head, I'm saying, nah, we're not leaving this month. I win a million dollars. And they said, dude, there's times you've been up six, seven hundred thousand dollars and you won't quit. Right. Because gambling is really just peaks and valleys. It is.

It's just peaks and valleys. It's the stock market. Yes, that's all it is. And they're like, dude, why can't you win three300,000 and say, man, we had a great weekend? Why you got to win a million? And I said, what? They says, why can't you lose 300 and say we still had a great weekend? And I says, are you serious right now?

He says, man, you know I ain't going to lie to you. Let's win a couple hundred thousand, have a great weekend, go home, or lose two or three hundred. You ain't got to win a million, or you ain't got to chase it and lose a million. And so, to answer your question, I said, yo, man, we're going to Vegas for the weekend. We're going to lose a couple hundred thousand, or we're going to win a couple hundred thousand. You know what we're going to do? We're going to play golf every day and get drunk every night. Right.

And I had to change my mentality because you can never break the casino. No, no, no. They can break your ass. Yes. And my friends just sit me down and said, yeah, man, let's just go have fun for the weekend. Let's win some money or lose a little bit. But yeah, but that's that's what really happened like i say i got such elation but then when i would lose a million

i was so depressed not that the money just yeah that's bush yeah because of the money but the losing but the but the winning never feels as good as the losing hurt. Yes. You were so excited when you got all that money laying in front of you. But you're like depressed

for a week. Yeah. You're like, damn, I lost a million dollars. And then you have to send the bill to your financial people. Uh-oh.

And they yell at you. And you're yelling and yelling and yelling. And then I says, hey, y'all better quit yelling at me. I'm going to fire y'all. And then they're like, okay, we'll pay it. But that's what really happened.

I was getting out of hand because your point was so good. No matter how good it feels winning, when you lose, it just sucks. Kevin Hart. Now, you know, when Cat Williams said gatekeepers. Yes. Kevin Hart.

I do his podcast. Yes. And I want you all to listen to the podcast so you can hear it for yourself. When he first comes on, he says, you're like my mother. You're like my aunt. You're like my sister. OK're like my aunt. You're like my sister. Okay. Then we do the podcast.

We speak about the Tyler Perry situation. Oprah Winfrey. He said, I don't really know Oprah, but I'm going to reach out to Tyler. I appreciate that. Kevin kept his word. He reached out to Tyler Perry. Kevin Hart called me back about maybe a week or so later. He said, Mo, I talked to Tyler. He said he don't want to revisit it. He said, but I tell you what,

let's move past that, Mo. Let's just move past that and let's just do great things. So whatever you- That's what Kevin said. I want you to hear me, Kevin Hart. Let's move past that, Mo. Let's do some great things together. Don't even worry about it. Whatever y'all want to do, I will partner with you. I'll executive produce with you. You just let me know what you want to do. Now, let me say that before we go any further, because I want to make sure I give Kevin Hart his proper credit. When my family was up against the wall, Kevin Hart wrote us a check and said, here you go. We're forever grateful for that. When we were able to give it back, we said, brother, we appreciate you with some interest on top because I don't ever want nobody to think my husband. So I want to make sure I put that out there. That was that brother really helped us out when we needed to be helped out.

Then when he came back with I got you, I didn't ask Kevin Hart to do anything. He said, I'll executive produce. I'll partner with you. I said, good shit, Kevin, because we're in a deal with Indemol. And we're trying to get our talk show back. Mo, whatever it is, I got you. Now, Kevin Hart is one of the biggest entertainers right now in the world. Correct. And was then.

We got off the phone with Kevin Hart. We called Indemol immediately and said, Kevin Hart said, whatever we want to do, he got us. He's going to partner executive views. They was like, oh, this is incredible. Because when you put Kevin Hart name on it, you already know what it is. Correct. Two weeks go by. We get a call from Indemaw.

Indemaw says, we just got a call from Kevin Hart's manager, Dave Becky. And Dave Becky said, Kevin doesn't want anything to do with Monique. So whatever she told y'all, he doesn't want to do anything with her. Nothing. You know, he doesn't want any any kind of relationship with Monique. So what changed between the two weeks and when? And plus, he gave you a check. You gave the money back.

Then said he would partner with you, executive produce, whatever you need, Mo. Hey, we got you. So what transpired or what do you think transpired between then that two that two week period? Well, soon as we got off the phone and they told us what Kevin manager David Becky said, I called Kevin Hart immediately. I said, hey, baby, we just got off the phone. We're in tomorrow. And they said Dave Becky called them up and said, you don't want anything to do with me. He said, Mo, that's that's a miscommunication. I can tell you right now. I said, wait a minute. Are you OK though with this white man calling him up? Getting in between our relationship,

something you said. He said, Mo, that's a miscommunication and we're going to talk Tuesday. Don't worry about it. I'm telling you right now, it's a miscommunication. That was two years ago. If you talk to him, I talk to him. I've never talked back to Kevin Hart again. talk to him. I talked to him. I've never talked back to Kevin Hart again. So that's what we're faced with. When you allow somebody to come in between a relationship with a woman that you said, I'm like your mother. You said, I'm like these things. I didn't ask you for that. So everything that that baby was saying, sitting here, everything he was saying was on the up and up. Because when you hear people say, get the anger out your heart. Oh, man, no one's saying he's lying.

No one ever said I was lying. It's so easy to discount and devalue because of what we look like. However, when it comes to Tyler Perry, I will not allow you to discount or devalue because that is your voice on that audio. Remember on good times when Penny's mother was whooping up on her and then she had recorded it. That's you on tape. So how does it go from you saying you're going to give me an apology to now? I owe you an apology. But what do you want an apology for? What what what could I possibly owe you an apology for when you've admitted? See, when Lee Daniels says to me, because Cookie from the show Empire, I was offered that role.

Now, Taraji tore it up, baby. Listen here. However, I was offered that. Then Felita called me back and say, baby girl, they said you're too difficult to work with. But you hear on the audio that a man told David Talbot I was difficult to work with. Do you see how that cost my family? And with no accountability because, oh, it's the great Tyler Perry. No, you've got to be accountable for that. Oprah Winfrey, you've got to be accountable for the things you've done with my family. You've got to be accountable for that. Is there any relationship between you and Tyler and you and Oprah currently?

No, no. But I thought there was an apology. I read somewhere that Oprah had issued you an apology and Tyler had issued an apology. That's not correct. No, no. The only person that's given you an apology and Tyler had issued an apology. That's not correct. No, no. The only person that's given you an apology. So it is Lee Daniels. That's the only person.

So we are in a place where we're too afraid to call them for what it is. We're too afraid to say if it looked like a duck and it quacked like a duck, what is it, Shannon? It's a duck. Right. So again, you see the struggle of the black woman

as I'm sitting here talking to you and you say, Mova, why would you record him? But you heard the man violate me. The first thing wasn't, I can't believe that cat did that to you. It's why would you do it? And we understand it

because we've been conditioned that way. When we have our juggernauts, Oprah Winfrey, Tyler Perry, Steve Harvey, Kevin Hart. These are our juggernauts of our community. These are the people that our babies say when I grow up, I want to be that. I want to be like that. So we have to call those people to the mat and say, listen, what are you teaching our babies? You're feeding poison because you're showing them your private jet. I'm going to show you my mansion. I'm going to show you my fancy cars, but my character is shot and I'm bankrupt. I got a lot of money in my bank. It's more zeros than some of them can, than we can imagine, but their character, they are are bankrupt those are bankrupt people

so everybody the cat sat right here and told you about i can't wait to see your next interviews with those people they ain't coming on now mo invite them i have they're not gonna do it well look i've already done steve i have a relationship with Steve. Do him again. Do him again. And I'm going to say this. I'm trying to get Oprah and Tyler, though.

Baby, we got them. Y'all come on. Stop playing. They ain't coming on more fakes. Do you? You know how. And I don't want to put you on the spot, but I'm going to say it. Because I appreciate you as a black man and what you're doing.

Thank you. If you are my friend and someone says to me, Monique Shannon shot wrong me. And you, my friend. Yeah. I'm a call my friend. You can come to me. And I'm going to say, hey, is what they say true? And I'm going to say, hey, is what they're saying true?

And if you get to him and Han, I'm going to tell you, till you fix it, you and I can't talk. Because if you'll do them that way, it'll be a matter of time before you do it to me. So if Steve Harvey is your friend, you call your friend up and you ask him, is what our sister saying right, man? Because if it is, we can't do that to her. If that's our sister. See, it took a transgender named T.S. Madison. It was a guy named Jamaica Carter. Jamaica Carter and our mutual Jamaica Carter and our friends. T.S. Madison was a mutual friend. So Jamaica called me and said, would you mind doing T.S. Madison show? I go do T.S. Madison show. When I tell T.S. Madison when the camera cuts, I said, listen, your friend is wrong.

She said, Monique Lee Daniels is my friend. I said, then you need to call your friend and tell him to fix this shit. She said, I will. Within a couple of days, who did I get a call from? Lee. Lee Daniels. See, that's a friend. That's a true friend that's saying, I love you so much that I want to make sure that's not on your heart or your conscience. Let's fix it. Let's make it right. So when people ask Lee now,

when we did the deliverance together, how was it to work with Monique? It was as if we had never parted ways because he fixed it. He owned it and he took accountability for it. I can't now keep you to the cross because you've owned it right i've had to be forgiven right so i appreciate that someone had grace and mercy with me so i'm gonna have that with other people when they take accountability for what they've done just hilarious i mean i mean you should i break her name oh you can bring her whatever you want to bring i mean you know yeah you want to talk about that no man listen bro i don't want to i just want to bring I mean you know yeah you want to talk about that no man listen bro I just want to know I don't look I ain't messy anything you want to talk to me about I think but this sofa

isn't ever since Cat Williams touched this sofa the energy in this sofa it make me want to talk about it I mean I did I don't know if you heard but she was on Cam Newton show and she said you know y'all was in a relationship. And, you know, she had to wake you up one morning because it had gotten out that y'all were together. I mean, you want to laugh? I mean, she told her side on his show. And you want to tell yours? Man, Jess, like I always told her, she never tells the 100% truth.

And I let her do that. Okay. But I tell her the other day, I say, Jess, man, and I got kind of paid. I said, you got to get more going on in your career so they can start bringing up my name in your interview. Wow. Because when I come, Netflix special, his book, you know what I'm saying, this going on, that going on, we don't got to

down each other. That's been, man, that's been five years ago. Right. If that's the main question in your interview, well, we got to put some work in. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because when Country Wayne come, i'm going good morning miracle hill this is that we don't talk about so much before we got to that exactly you feel me i'm like man we don't have and i was comfortable not talking about it exactly and i'm like you can't it's not working in your favor right people can pretend it but they watching they see country wayne is taking care of black people

movement don't let the people fool you right Right. They ain't on your side. I'm like, it ain't working. So I was just like, man, a lot of that that she talk about, I let it slide. But, man, that stuff ain't play out like that, man. You know what I'm saying? I separated from my wife. Right. When it got just.

You know what I'm saying? And that was it. I started talking to her. Right. And I got divorced. My divorce was 45 days. Right. You know what I mean? Right. And me and i started talking to her right and i got divorced my divorce was four to five days right you know what i mean right and uh me and her started talking and then all the stuff she's

talking about on deck of my baby mama hit me she's like can you please ask jesse stop talking about that because now the kids are handed at school because she keep bringing it up and that's the only reason make me hit up right i'm like jess man i ain't never said nothing negative about you and everybody know that right let that ride right you know what i'm saying but she want to be the winner i'm like jesse just be real I ain't never said nothing negative about you, and everybody know that. Let that ride. Right. You know what I'm saying? But she wanted to be the winner. I'm like, Jess, let's be real.

Because Charlamagne asked one time, he said, how you lose Jess and Larry? I said, how you lose Country Wayne? I'm going to catch you. Right. What you talking about? Like, let's be real. My baby mama was, yeah, they fine in the zone or what? Jess fine too.

Right. But I've been had them. She ain't had no Country Wayne. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, man, let's just, let's stop that, man. First of all, it's two black people talking. If you're going to speak, just speak the truth.

Because this sofa right here. No, no, no, no, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't, don't do that. Don't do that. No, but I'm like, I'm like, man. But she didn't say, you know, she woke you up. No, that ain't, come on, man.

That didn't happen like that? That ain't happen like that. That not happen like that, man. That divorce went so fast. I filed in December. We was, me and my baby mom was divorced by February. But at that point in time, when you had separated from your wife, you had started talking to Jess. Yeah, I had started talking to Jess. Okay. Now, all this stuff came out of the shade room. A lot of that was after that. Right. You know what I'm saying? Right. And she just, she say, we woke up and then she was like okay i tell them all the time it's still corny i'm like why you gotta call my stuff corny because i got a different audience

that follow me too right you know i mean i got the streets in the church ain't too many artists got the streets in the church you know what i mean man what i'll be seeing what you be talking about you be making on social media month that ain't nothing corny by that corny but see that's that mentality of people from a certain it's like this this world think this world corny this world think this world corny i think martin was a good show and big bang theory right uh just because you think friends corny when they get a million episodes you ain't gonna never grow artistically because you think only what you come from is good right and that's the problem with everybody you know what i'm saying i'm like bro you gonna call this corny just because i ain't cursing confident to get this

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You had to fake a couple of times, huh? Yeah. Yeah. I don't have to fake a lot of times. I ain't going to lie, boy. My baby mama cooked me some pork chops one time. I was eating that pork, and it was so good. But let me tell you something.

My blood pressure shot through my hair. Man, I remember I was laying on the sofa, and she had cooked me one, but it was so good, and I knew it was the pork chop. But look at what I said. What? She said, you want some more? Yeah, just give me one more. Well, let me tell you, you like to kill me.

Then I had this white girl named Holly one time. What she cook? I should be saying their name, man. Damn, what's in this water? You see that bag of water right there you got? I need to move it from by.

I got it too close put that in between us wear something about this sofa right here boy hey no but man Holland she I had started going vegan and she's hearing me saying you know she's a white girl so so she's like I'm gonna do something different than the black girls I hear him he said food. Man, she cooked me some brownies. I waited for them to dry all day. She said they were just wet because they ain't had dry yet. Let me tell you something. That goo ain't got there gum.

Like the kilt my guy got there in the throat and stomach. It was like glue. And I was tasting it. She's like, how is it? I said, it's moist. It like to kill me, man. But you know everybody ain't going to be able to cook that vegan food i know but i taste oh yeah everybody gonna be able to cook it i i tell people only way you're gonna

be able to cook the vegan if you was able to cook the real food so i think all the real cooks just a real cook of the people who are good at vegan it was the people who was cooking good food anyway so the one you did when you found out your 13 year old son had a her girlfriend and her mama was fine yeah i did man i was coming up i come up with skits all day so what i was doing once i seen that money in those skits i was coming up with these scenarios i got in my head and i'll just put them out you know i'm saying i come up with ideas that you do this you do this you do this bam we don't edit we record it cut off the action cut off the cut bam we there we done i don't edit nothing i use my cell phone

really yeah so you got very little overhead when you're shooting this the money go to the people instead of the equipment that's how because it cost me 250 000 a month to shoot these skits now yeah you know what i'm saying now but you shoot like 30 or 40. yeah i know i drop 300 skits a month that's got like 900 something skits a day i mean 99 skits a day right sometimes 10. uh most times 10 10 to 12. because phil got two very got three might got three to eight then I got to your Somalia right attention yep I mentioned your strategy because you say you big on Facebook and a lot of people and I had to get out this way of thinking that when you looked at Facebook you think okay class reunion

family reunion that's why that's why Jess called me corny cuz she think that audience corny but that's who got the money See they aiming at the wrong audience, right? Because the auntie's is one given The mama's giving you money. You know I'm saying so that audience It's the hardest audience to get because if Beyonce got a cake and Ashley got a cake They gonna taste it. Whoever cake is better, they gonna buy. But they don't care if it's Beyonce cake.

But there's a big enough audience. Taylor Swift's audience isn't necessarily Beyonce's audience. Mm-mm. But you don't think they're making no grip? It's a lot of people in this world, man. Thank you. And when black people, to blow up with the black community and really get that money, I'm taste a lot of people in this world man. Thank you and when black people

to blow up with a black community and Really get that money because you know, that's why to be honest. I'm just being transparent. That's why I'm able to make So much more than a lot of career black creators because I got everybody not Everybody might not like me in this clique But everybody know what country Wayne at every clique, right? And you go to the streets and like I rock Wayne drill you go to the other teams Oh, I love country Wayne Rick Swallow Tyler Perry fan little country Wayne, right? But what I realized as black people you can't afford to cut off an audience because there's not enough right? So when you black and that's all you got you better be transparent, right? That's why I stopped cursing to my company Okay, I'm already wrong. So let me stop cursing so at least because it's hard to sell out you can get another

demographic yeah and that's what happened i end up getting the church they like okay right why ain't ronchi you know what i'm saying but at the same time at least he don't curse right and uh and and in the hood like why ain't cursinging, but he talking about the right subject. Right. So I had to, until you get that, all audiences, you know, until you Taylor Swift them, man, if you're dealing with black people, man, you better be transparent. Right. You go to Auburn, and then there's this, Auburn bought Cam Newton. His daddy received this large monetary sum of money. Yeah.

So what's going on? How did this come about? Allegedly. Yes. You know, before you, so where were the schools that you could have gone to? Okay, you go to Auburn. So where, after Blinn,

where were your choices? Oklahoma, Kansas State, Mississippi State, Auburn. Okay. It was a whole different recruitment process when I was in JUCO rather than coming out of high school. Okay. Out of high school, I was looking for gear and a good time. Right.

By way of, you know, female. The hostesses. Yeah. And Juco, oh, I was a millionaire mentality. How are y'all going to incorporate me in this offense with my skill set? Not what Sam

Bradford was doing because that ain't how I play the game. I'm going to bring a whole different element of this offense that you got to start shaping some stuff around. Kansas State the same way. Mississippi State, Dan Mullen. Dan Mullen was the offensive coordinator and the quarterback coach while I was at Florida. Okay, so you had some familiarity. There was a lot of familiarity. And his plan was, I remember Coach Mullen had called me,

and at that time, me being the type of player I was, if a coach calling you, that means you ain't go to study hall, you didn't go to class, it was something. But this conversation was him telling me that he was going to Mississippi State. It ended up being Mississippi State. He didn't tell me the team. And I was saying to myself, well, he asked, he wanted me to consider transferring to Mississippi State.

But Coach Meyer had to sign off on that. And I knew he wasn't going to sign off on that. So I had to go to junior college. off for that so i had to go to junior college now when you when you say the things like going through the whole ncaa pay for play scandal this is where i don't think i've ever had the opportunity to share this if you really go back and you know the reports to what it said, it said two sources. Yes. Said that Cam Newton and his father took money to go to Auburn. Those two sources was Dan Mullen and his wife, Megan Mullen.

How do we get to that? I'll tell you. The day I was going to commit to Auburn out of junior college, it was neck and neck. Mississippi State. Mississippi State and Auburn. When I went to Auburn,

as my mental was solely focused focused on success I was trying to I was really trying to play catch up to the Joe Haydens the Marquise Pounceys the Aaron Hernandez who were already in the league and I said to myself we came in together and in Florida they already in the league I'm trying to find the fastest way that I can get to the lead. When I went to Auburn, they mentioned that they will have 22 seniors coming back. Mississippi State probably only had three to four. These are all different things as a 20 year old college player and a 16, 17 year old kid. You don't think that that's a big thing, but it really is.

My whole determining factor was I wanted to go to a school that could get me to a BCS game. That was either the Tocitos Bowl, Orange Bowl, Sugar Bowl, whatever. If I went there in my tenure at that school I was going top ten okay because I knew in order for us to get there I would had to play my best form of football right when I was about to commit to Auburn one of the things that my father told me that I had to do as a man he said you got to call coach Mullen and you have to tell him the decision that you're gonna make be a man

he said damn pop like why though you know i'm saying he gonna find out sooner or later you know he can read but that's how my father raised me okay he said so you're gonna have to be a man right and that's that's that's where i always challenge society now. We need more men empowering men, not boys raising boys. You dig what I'm saying? But certain circumstances play out like that. But to that point, I put a lot of focus on my father. I said, Pop, you a man of God. If it's on your heart to wherever we're going to decide to go, that's where we're going to go.

of God, if it's on your heart to wherever we're going to decide to go, that's where we're going to go. At that time, we were exploring so many different things and he came back, wrote it down on a sheet of paper. I looked at it. It had Auburn on it. I said,

I ain't going to even question it. That's where we're going. That day that I was going to make it public, I had to call Coach Mullen. I remember having a conversation. It was extremely awkward because when I called him, he answered, how's my quarterback doing? And I said, coach. I just wanted to be a man to call you and tell you and Miss Megan that I'm going to Auburn. Now, I didn't want you to hear through the grapevines. I don't want you to hear it on ESPN. I wanted to be a man to call you. And he asked me this question.

But how can you know I was going to do right by you? We need you. And I gave him this quote. It was just too good to be true. gave him this quote, it was just too good to be true. Now, too good to be true for me was you got 22 seniors. They battle tested. I ain't going into a locker room with freshmen. They ready to win right now.

They just need me to propel them to elite status. Mississippi State needed me and some. And I don't think Mississippi State needed me and some. And I don't think Mississippi State garners the measure of recruits. Come on, it's Mississippi State here. And still Mississippi State at that particular point in time. And I heard Miss Megan in the background.

I was like, did he commit? Did he commit? He was like, no. And then that's when I talked to her. I was like, man, I just apologize, but this is a business decision that I'm saddened that it didn't work out. Had that conversation when I was 20, and I thought I was doing the right thing. So fast forward to the success going on at Auburn. First game, we played Arkansas State I think the next game or the first primetime game we had was versus Mississippi State

it was on a Thursday night we ended up winning that football game and I'm big on energy I'm big on just posture and certain things at the end of the game, I looked at him, and I wanted to shake his hand and say, Coach, man, appreciate you, man. Thank you. And it was a little iffy, though.

You know what the hood teach you. You know what I'm saying? Like, my spidey senses was a little up. They were tingling. He on some bull. You dig what I'm saying? I didn't really know what it was. His wife was there.

We spoke. Condolences, man. Good luck for the rest of the year. You know what I'm saying? Blah, blah, blah. The report came two weeks after that. And if you remember, it was two sources. It was Dan Mullen and his wife that created all this ruckus. Cam and his daddy took money.

Yeah. Now, fast forward to now when it's becoming a big story. I remember after the game, we had another primetime game on Saturday night. We played South Carolina. That was when the world knew who Cam Newton was. Another phone call by Coach, Coach Chizik. And anybody who played at Auburn knew if somebody's calling you from a no-call ID, it's Coach Chizik.

That ain't a good call that you want to have. But I was in good standards. You know what I'm saying? We undefeated at that particular point he said cam i need to talk to you and your parent are your parents still in town say yes sir say i need y'all to come to my office and we need to have a conversation cool boom i'm thinking you know you're about to just stay the typical man you're doing an amazing job blah blah y'all raised an unbelievable young man goodness It's working out fine. I remember

it. Look, it was me, my mom, and my dad, and Coach Chizik sitting across from us. And you know, Coach Chizik, you know, hey, I just want to let y'all know it's about to be a report

that comes out that a scandal and the NCAA is about to do an investigation on you guys' family. So I'm looking around like, on who? For what? Say, there's a report that you guys took money to come here. So I'm like, okay, cool. How much are we talking? Boom. He said $ 180,000.

Looked at my mama. My mama looked at me. We bust out laughing. Are you serious? Like, for real? We laughing. Coach Chizik ain't laughing. I'm like, oh, you for real? So I'm saying to myself,

I'm looking at my mama. Mama, you got $180,000? Pop, you got $180,000? Well, I'm from, you can't hide that type of money. I ain't never seen $1,000, let alone $180,000 to $200,000. That'd be hard to hide. Especially, man, in our house.

But we gonna, man. I done found so much from Playstations the Sega Genesis the all that that they tried to hide from us I'm like man how who who got it it was it was a suspicion to us like who got this money that y'all proclaiming us to have God and he was just reporting was he's like listen I don't know who did it or who got it, but the NCAA is about to open an investigation and uncover as much as they possibly can. And during that stint from that week on throughout even the national championship,

that burden was always on and i no longer was an amateur athlete i had to operate as if i was a ceo i had to operate and be stoic and and be strong and and when somebody would ask cam you all right yeah yeah i'm good knowing good and well i was suffering in silence nobody could could could go through what i went through not my family not my teammates not my coaches not only am i being investigated throughout the day i'm trying to play the best form of football that i possibly can during game time and i'm going through so much so much. I can't speak to them. I'm talking to my dad. I'm talking to my brothers.

I'm talking to, you know, my family. But they don't get it. They there for support, but it's not like we understand what you said. That's the only thing that they can say. And I'm saying to myself, bro, it's hard. We playing. After that, you got LSU. You got Arkansas.

You got Georgia. You got all these games. And I'm like, yo, on top of that, you got LSU, you got Arkansas, you got Georgia, you got all these games. And I'm like, yo, on top of that, this is the greatest season that the Auburn University has ever had. You got Alabama. How are you doing this? I was having an outer body experience in in my body. Like I'm like, yo, I'm surprised myself with the measure of focus that i had to go through and still that's what brought my family closer because even though i know even though i knew still to this day nobody took money from it that was just a grenade thrown into the crowd to just have a bitter person he didn't come to my school

so he had to have taken some money to go to that school because we had already had a relationship but i was thinking to myself you didn't play me while you was at florida these are all things that i'm saying like i seen your true self right i didn't want to get burnt twice so on top of that these things are happening and through it all by the like i say by the grace of god i was able to still perform at a high level and my father jumped on that grenade knowing good and well he ain't taking no money knowing good and well he said look how can we allow my son to play? Well, we're going to need somebody to take this rap. My father said, without blinking, I'll take it. Paint me however you want to paint me.

Right. I'll do it for my son. He going to be eligible to play? Cool. I'll take it. Well, Cecil, you can't come to no more games. I'll take it. Well Cecil you can't you can't come to no more games and still to this day It was told while during the Heisman ceremony They said I think it's best for you not to show up for that. I took that personal

and the person that meant the most that had the greatest impact on Cam Newton the player the man that he became at His at his highest moment to date. The man that meant so much to you couldn't be there to share it with you. I could not share the moment. I remember winning the Heisman ceremony, stuttering. I was nervous, but I didn't want to be there. I wanted to be with my dad. I wanted to be with my family.

Because this was my opportunity to show my dad. To thank him. like thank him to thank him but also my dad challenged me every day boy that's not right boy you got to be a man from i'm seven eight twelve thirteen fifteen seventeen still in college so you got to be a man. That ain't no man. Take responsibility. Take accountability. This was this was me showing him, Pop, I'm being a man, Pop. Look at me. Look what you created, man. Man, it's us. This ain't just me. This ain't Cam Newton. This for our whole lineage. This is for the whole Newton name. This is what you created. Let me share that with you

Everybody was excited, but they stripped that from me, right? but Archie Manning that ain't no question but if it's Lamar ball, that's a problem. Hmm Deion Sanders. Oh he playing all that with that These are great forms of King Richard Men who meant so much

And that was trying to put their family In the best situation Tiger Woods father Those these people My father has did nothing wrong And was painted as a villain Still to this day He still ain't been back to Auburn. Truth be told.

Do you get an opportunity to get back? To Auburn? Yeah, but I ain't never been back to the Heisman. Right. For what? They didn't care about my family at that point in time. Because if they knew we was telling everybody like $180,000, $200,000, you can't hide that. Not in my community.

Not in my culture. You would have seen it in a car. you would have seen it in a something a business the church something they couldn't find nothing and this was an investigation that took place for more than about three to five years nothing but when I'm suffering and all everybody really cared is, are you all right? Can you play? I was ineligible for a day. And boy, what we gonna do? I got eligible again. And now it put everybody at ease. Not knowing that like, bro. not knowing that like bro y'all at ease i'm not at ease but i i used those what is it 12 minutes i used that 40 minutes or 42 minutes on saturday to inflict what was being inflicted to me complete disregard to how i felt and whoever i was playing they was gonna feel me so you're seeing a lot of examples of me using my circumstance not letting my circumstance use me right jimmy clausen tim tebow urban meyer the ncaa damn mother damn man somebody got to pay for this and i'm doing this is a peaceful protest sort of

speaking i ain't going off the rail and saying like man let me let me tell you, bro, y'all, y'all, y'all doing too much. NCAA, you call them a house. You know, people were reports of ESPN, everybody seeing in like this was big news. You don't care about my family. People were staking out of my house asking like it's all did you do it going into stadiums where they disrespecting me by playing son of a preacher man like these are these are facts right oh scam newton you think what i'm saying yes this ain't it's a whole thing that people ain't thinking about what

i went through right and i'm telling you like, that ain't that's what I displayed. There is no different than what an average black man or black family goes through on a regularity. It may not be through sports. It may be through circumstance. Mom working two or three jobs is provide single parent or the father's is is not around or he's trying to provide as best as he can these are all uh um trauma that i was lucky to use that trauma to put on my shoulder to say i gotta keep going i gotta keep going this is my way out i ain't about to be no doctor I ain't about to be no lawyer I'm about to be a football player and I don't care what my circumstance

is I gotta perform and put that compartmentalize that put that away for these 42 minutes while I show the world I'm the best football player the game the iron bowl you guys go down 24-0.

That team is loaded. That may be the best Alabama team ever. You guys are in Tuscaloosa. You fall behind 24-0. Yep. You say Carolina,

but that was the game. That your you know say a heisman moment you had a heisman game the entirety of the game from the point that you were down 24 nothing could really be your highlight so you don't need any others yeah what's going through your mind what's the team psyche at that point in time you're in tuscaloosa yeah that's your chiefest rival that's the that might be the greatest rivalry in in college sports i understand duke north carolina ohio state michigan but they're not in state yeah and it's divided you either love alabama and hate auburn you either love auburn or you hate alabama there is no in between it ain't no cousins no it's bad blood yeah and i didn't know that

and i think coach chizik did a great job leading up to that week because that always will be the game around thanksgiving and school's out right that's just the first uh introduction to what professional sports will be. All we had to do was prepare for that game, you know, training table, workout, watch film, whatever. And he would give us speakers to talk about what that game was like. Now, me being at the University of Florida, I was a part of some rivalries, Georgia, Florida, Florida, Florida State, Florida, Miami.

I witnessed all of them. They were rivalries, but the Iron Bowl is a little different. It's a different energy. Different energy. I remember going to the game, and they had canceled our Tiger Walk. That's when you get off the bus, and then you have your fans. And I asked them, I said, why we don't got Tiger Walk? Simple question or simple answer was

it's just not safe damn we in college I mean it's amateur sports right man we was approaching you know the stadium the bus rocking bus right rocking and I remember looking outside it was a couple who had to be 70 plus. They flicking us off. Damn. It's all about grandpa. They all about it. Meemaw and them was flicking us off.

And I said, oh, it's that type of game. When we entered or when I entered the stadium on the field, they throwing, you know, beer bottles and beer on. Right. Oh, it's that type of game. All right, I see what we got going. This disrespect is overload. We go down 24. Okay, cool.

We got to score before halftime, man. I'm saying to myself, bro, Cam, if you're going to do anything great, just going to cement your legacy right here. And dare I just make it all about me, because we had unbelievable effort from Nick Fairley, the defense a lot of the credit, but these were the unsung heroes, too. And I just remember making it so personal. Like, this ain't what we stop at. We got to keep going. And as you know, being an athlete, that's what gives you that stamp of approval that we want to hear what your take was. What was it like in the locker room?

Did you have to grab somebody by the shoulder pads and say, we got 30 more minutes to impact the rest of our lives. What we gonna do? I'm about to barbecue. You gonna get a plate? Let's rock and roll. Them type of stories you can't get by just reporting the news because it take a different measure of of experience and even though Travis Kelsey may be able to be talked to in this type of way you can't talk to Shannon Shrout like that sometimes you don't even got to talk to him you just got to look you straight bro those type of connections or wi-fiFi is something that only having the experience in the game can share that. And I did not want that opportunity to be missed because I was fighting so much more off the field that on the field was just a playground. That was my place of refuge. You can't talk to me, reporter, while I'm playing.

I'm at peace, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And every time I ran, I ran with a vengeance. I wanted to hurt somebody because I was hurt. And I used it as a way to give me my edge. We both worked with Skip. You worked with him, I think, a little longer than I have. And we both have given him credit for opening up his platform and allowing us to be who we are. And we could grow our own platforms to become, as you mentioned earlier, businesses of ourselves.

For the people, I don't know how many people have heard, and I'm going to follow up after you. Skip, what's he really like? Because I think the thing is, if you've never met him, you just see him on television, you say, okay, that's him and who he is. Skip's a different beast. I don't know if you can just describe him in one simple way. You can't. You can't. This dude's definition of advice is Diet Mountain Dew.

This dude was in the 60s and in the 70s running anywhere for five to eight miles a day um eating the same meals for breakfast lunch dinner um introducing himself to his now wife and their first date you will never be more important than my job get over that from now or don't bother i mean that's his definition of turning her on i guess so i'm like i'm just like that's he's a different animal right um you know and there are highs and lows that come with him correct um he knows that there's highs and lows that come with me there's highs and lows that come with you and everybody else and that's the way it goes but you know I'm a man first and it's about a core decency of appreciation the reality is is that no matter how problematic and he can be problematic

at times no matter how problematic he can be the reality is is that I wouldn't be where I am today if he didn't give me that opportunity on first take. And so for me to be where I am and to know that it's spring, it's springboards off of something that he was directly involved in making happen. For me to insult him in any way is just disrespectful. It's wrong. And it's something that i would never do now that don't mean i can't disagree with him absolutely that doesn't mean that i can't feel that he's wrong and anybody like a jamie harwood yourself and others who know me have gotten to know me in your case you know i would tell him he's wrong to his face right he knows where i stand um but it

doesn't take away my love and appreciation for him and the fact that he will always be a brother from another mother to me yeah so i've always made that clear with everybody yeah it's not often that someone can give you that opportunity and uh i and i've said this several times for me i cannot let six months ruin six and a half good years right because sometimes people are willing to throw everything away for one mistake. Right. Or one bad comment or one something like this. Right.

And even though that was all we were supposed to get. My sister tells me this all the time. Says, Shannon, this was all we were supposed to get. About four months ago, I had Tabitha Brown. She's great. I've interviewed her before. She's fantastic. Stephen A.

She had no idea this was going on, so we wrapped the interview. And I'm going to end it on this one. And I'm taking out my microphone. She says, is the mics off? I said, well, I'm taking my mic off. You can take yours off. We took our mics off, and she leans in close to me. She said, I had a dream last night.

God told me it's going to be okay for you to go ahead and do what you need to do she says it's gonna be different but you need to go on your own now God told me that she said now you do what you want to do with it right but God just she said and when I get dreams like this and I'm ever in the person's presence, it's my duty to tell them. A month later. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, when she's telling me this, Stephen A., you see how you're looking at me? I'm looking at her.

How you know what's going on? She said, God told me this last night. And it's funny that I'm sitting here doing this interview. I did this interview with you. And I needed to tell you this Once she told me that I was at peace because I'm racking my brain. I'm like, what did I do? Did I say something that I've been somebody I mean, I just I think I'm doing a great job She said be at peace with it. Yeah

And that's what I told you you did That's what I told you because the reality of the situation is that, you know, I'm not going to apologize. Listen, I got a lot of friends over there. All right. We all know that. I know a lot of people. But that don't mean that what happened to you was fair. Plain and simple.

Okay. That ain't the end of the world. Nope. But it is what it is. So, you know, to me, it was just important for us in this industry to stand up and say, yo, he's one of us. He can't get him to go out like this. And that was it for me. It was like, it was just that simple.

You go wherever you want. You want to come first take, fine. You want to go somewhere else, fine. Because I got my crew here at first take and I'm not trying to get rid of anybody. You understand what I'm saying? Because I'm not going to do this forever. And when it's my time to go, it's my time to go. And it's time for somebody else to step up. But as long as I'm here, my attitude was going to be, listen,

the people that have been a treasure and a tribute to this industry are the people that I'm going to do all that I can to remind folks this is what they do. I don't want to be one of those dudes that I got these platforms first take and i got my podcast and i'm doing nba countdown and i got more stuff coming down the line and everything like that and all i'm talking about is what i'm doing it's my job to highlight what everybody else is doing you you you wanted a few steven a because i know a lot of people that have could have opportunity to help somebody but they want to be the only ninja with money. No. I don't want that. And I told you this.

And I'll tell the audience that I told you this. I said, you might be at first take for one year. You might be at first take for years to come. It's my responsibility. And I'm dead serious. It's a heart attack. It's my responsibility to make sure that you are more successful with me than you were before you arrived. That's what you told me. That's my responsibility to make sure that you are more successful with me than you were before you arrived.

That's what you told me. That's my responsibility and I'm going to make sure it happens come hell or high water. We ain't going down brother. We only going down. You know what I do. That's just the way it's going to be. You know. That's just the way it's going to be.

Goatman coming. That's right. August even eight. You know what I'm saying. Oh man. HBCU is the takeover. I ain't trying to lose. I'm never about that. Anybody that knows me ain't about that.

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