Club Shay Shay - Kim K’s Influence On BBL Culture & Why Men Are The Prize | Truth After Dark

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Truth After Dark family, you’re in for a good one! We discuss Kim K’s influence on BBL culture, Onlyfans, and $20M to sleep with Paul Pierce? Take your shoes off, light up a candle, put th...e kids to bed and get ready for another wild episode! #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 What is banging out the window mean? You know, just, you know. What? The lips just doing that, you know, just like, damn, taking over your face. This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody, welcome to truth after dark. Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Welcome to another episode of The Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday. P2, The Truth, aka. Period. Paul P, double P. You know, on our last episode, everyone in the comments was just so appalled by your feet being out
Starting point is 00:03:20 and that you were playing with your feet. They're like, the fact that Paul is playing with his bare toes on this, everyone said it, on this camera is blowing me I was playing with my feet Yeah you had a mouth And you was like this Yeah and they were bare
Starting point is 00:03:35 Some people said Listen I'm trying to get through the episode But Paul played with these feet It's blowing They said it was blowing up I didn't even realize Yeah I mentioned at the beginning of episode I said okay come on bare feet
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah I was feeling comfy You was comfy You know like people have to judge Yeah yeah yeah I'm for it everyone is just a hater it's okay he had his feet out he's living his best life what's the problem i'm living my best life period beat up kicking back after exactly let's go exactly okay so let's get right into it so share you know the singer share who's 80 years old she's marrying her
Starting point is 00:04:14 boyfriend AE that's his name I guess and they have a 40 year age gap so he's 40 years younger than her so this is the thing you were saying like man don't really mess with the order that I'm not going to marry them for real that I will he's married her he married her yeah he proposed to her I met this I met him before
Starting point is 00:04:37 I had a chance to meet dude he's tiger's close friend I don't know his close friend yeah he's best friend he with Amber Rose right no Tiger no yeah yeah he did I think he'd have a kid or something together even that's why I met him yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like we had a lunch together
Starting point is 00:04:54 in Hollywood on some business back in the day and I'm going to say one thing about dude like because guys we ain't really dealing with older women like that gap is crazy I think this is a play yeah for sure everyone looks at it like that
Starting point is 00:05:15 but like just like women do it so that's city boys we up we're popping we finally doing it now because all these women be on it Like when you see the lady over there with the old man or the diamond bed but he reaches hell and he over there Oh baby, she doing all this
Starting point is 00:05:33 And we know that's a play for her That's a play. Now we like I'm finally We finally got somebody on our side That can run that play He probably give yeah You know, yeah Do you think that
Starting point is 00:05:44 He's like having sex with women on the side Like or is that satisfying? Like do you think that a man could just be like Okay I'm gonna bag this old lady And we're gonna have sex and that's all I need. I went from Amber Rose, big booty,
Starting point is 00:05:57 big titty, stripper-looking body to I'm going to be doing this. I'm going to sacrifice the sexual needs for the financial needs. And I doubt he wants to get caught up
Starting point is 00:06:08 because he gets caught up. That's his whole play and his money and his bread. He's living a different life. He's with Cher. Share is a white pop star. Like she's a whole different level of rich that you are not going to see
Starting point is 00:06:19 that type of lifestyle unless you're around that. Man, This is what I'm going to tell you. Just make sure that you are on the wheel. I'm dead. And on the insurance, the life insurance. You got to get your name on that life insurance.
Starting point is 00:06:35 You got to get your name. And then once you do that, you know, you got to ride it out. You don't want to, you know, I ain't promoting. Don't, you know, don't mess it up. Don't be trying to see other women. You know, ride it out, dog. You know, ride it out. It ain't going to be that much longer.
Starting point is 00:06:50 She's only 80 years old. That's a lot. though my dad is 77 so hopefully he doesn't die that's the life expectancy well she looks like she's kicking for a minute she's gonna be one of them that's 97 that'll blow me that will blow him too 17 more years it is blown up but they seem cool whatever they seem cool to each and so man i ain't i ain't promoting like to go do something else but women do this all the time Women do this all the time, but I don't like the situation where men are trying to be like women
Starting point is 00:07:24 and women are trying to be like men. I just don't feel that vibe. It's trying to be like a woman, women trying to be out. No, but it's like. It's baller. That's baller. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:07:31 She's probably showing them some things he ain't seen before. For sure. You know what I'm 100% she's showing him a lifestyle he ain't ever seen. I don't know what she's showing them. But if it's a lifestyle or things or maybe some things she, maybe the sex is crazy. You know what I'm saying? Don't put it past.
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Starting point is 00:10:05 you get to sit there having your drink and she's right there. What if she's right? Taking off her clothes, you're going to be like, well, I got myself into. I tell you into it. Hey, he probably drank every day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:20 He's doing a little more than drinking, baby. And that's a little more than drinking, I'm sure. That's great. That's blowing him. You got to get through it. But she might be having procedures, honey. They be getting vaginal rejuvenations and all type of stuff. And she got the money.
Starting point is 00:10:37 So listen. What that mean? You could do what vaginal rejuvenation. Supposedly it's a procedure that women can get when they are either like had a kid or like stretched out. I don't know. and that it tightens it up and it's like back to like
Starting point is 00:10:53 you never did nothing before supposedly I don't know but people I've heard of it and people are getting it. City boys we're back so as this is a viral quote that's been on the net right now
Starting point is 00:11:07 and a guy said as a man I'm not working 10 hours to come home and look at a flat ass butt this is crazy because I feel like why are men like this who would say this too like that is so crazy to me this is a black man only a black man is saying
Starting point is 00:11:26 why would you go on the internet and say this like and this is why and men always get mad when I say this because they're like y'all like to blame men for everything this is why women get BBLs and all of this because they feel like you're not going to want to be with a woman with a flat ass but that's crazy to me that's wrong me like well you don't want to what like that puts women down and makes them feel crazy? No, I mean, as a black man, you culturally come from like our women are just like naturally have big booties. If you go to Africa, you know, all right, my mom, this is a true story, my mom went to Africa
Starting point is 00:12:05 and she came back. You know, one of the first things she said, she was like, man, I was over there and the women are beautiful and they just have big old booties. I was like, damn, Mom, what? You always remember that. Like, she said that, and I was just like, damn, I mean, just culturally as, you know, that's in our DNA. So now since we are cultural representatives of America, people want that look. So now we make it to where, like, if you ain't got that, you're not popping for women.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And people are, they get, like, sensitive and they get insecure women. because they feel like that's what American culture for women should be. And, like, you know, think about this. When we walk down the street, if somebody got that thing on it, we're going to be like, like, oh, soon. Dang. Like, I don't know why we like that, but it's just like, damn, he'd just be like, you know, it's the double take on that.
Starting point is 00:13:08 You're like, damn, that's what draw men. I don't know what it is about seeing a woman's booty. It's just that we're turning around to that. Like, that's getting our attention more than, you can have the ugliest face on the planet. But if you got that thing, he's going to be like, man, what's going on? You know what I'm saying? Like, damn, but that's what society and what we've made, like, TV and made it, like, okay. Because before it wasn't like that, thing about the Playboy model had the flat cakes.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Yeah, because it was like a white American beauty scene. Yeah, so now it's like now. Yeah, now everyone has wanted to have that shape. It was like, it was brown, big booty was back in the day. They was frowned upon. Yeah, it was. Yeah. It was like, ew.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah. What is that? Like, even in movies, when you watch all movies, they're like, oh, how do I get rid of this fat butt? Like they say it like that, you're like, what? And now it's like, okay, so let me ask you this question. It's glorified, but let me ask you this question. So there's a black girl who came on the internet,
Starting point is 00:14:07 and she was like, we are no longer following the white woman beauty standard. Like beauty standard was white women, right? Playboy model. But listen, I kind of still disagree with that narrative because I still believe. And their whole thing is like, oh, well, black girls, you guys straighten your hair to be white, right? Okay, I get it, right? But this is what I, this is my thing. You know how many other things y'all do to be more culturally in tune with black people, though?
Starting point is 00:14:36 You can't just say, like, black people always set the tone for the culture. So you get your lips injected. People got made fun of for having bigger lips. growing up I did like I don't have even huge lips but it was still like I got made fun of for having a big butt I went to a white school why is your butt so big and your your stomach is so small it looks weird like okay so I'm thinking I look weird because I'm around white people like you know what I'm saying but now what is it like y'all are doing everything like I can count more things that white women do to look black than black women do to look white do to look white do you agree with that I feel like that's the truth and then the white women are like are like arguing arguing down like no y'all get straight in your hair okay we do one thing and you cannot say like if you look back in our history there's all type of hair textures coming from black people just like there's all type of skin tone but y'all tan your skin to look darker literally get spray tans y'all literally do your lips you do your butt you want to look fuller you want to have bigger like everything that you're doing is black I don't care what nobody says and y'all follow the culture you want to dress you want to you want to act and you want to. Well, this is what TV is now. Like, you know, there's trends that, you know, they, it's like waves. It's like ebbs and flow. Of course. There's trends always. You know what I mean? The clothing, just like the women's look. And, you know, moving forward, it's just like
Starting point is 00:16:05 what we glorify on TV when we see these beautiful women with these big old sexy lips and these big old eyelashes and eyebrows and butt and lips banging out the window. And what banging out the window? Lips, you know, banging out the window and just. What is banging out the window mean? You know, just, you know. What? The lips just doing that, you know, just like, damn, taking over your face.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Well, those look crazy to me, the ones that I mean that. But that's what's like in the TV now. And that's what, like, people follow. And it's like, you know, I blame, I blame Kim Kardashian for the women we see today. I truly do because she is one of the most influential women that ever lived. And, you know, she had the plastic surgeries and made it cool to do that. But Kim don't have those lifts. She ain't never had those lips.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And I'll give that to her. Hold on. She's the reason, like, because I feel like every girl look like him. Like, damn, I'm like, oh, everybody wants the straight black hair and the lips and the curvy booty and the eyelashes and the, you know, everybody's cutting their noses up and chin up and cheeks up. And, like, everybody, I blame her for the way our girls in. But then now they get out of control with it. They, like, I want to give me to Kim K. but now they OD it
Starting point is 00:17:42 and now they look crazy and start looking crazy like she is really the reason why the women look the way they look today good or bad that's just what I feel it may not be true but I think her influence
Starting point is 00:17:55 on the society of women today came from her influence and where did her influence come from black people she kicked it with black people she was around black people she married black people she became The thing is she made it okay
Starting point is 00:18:13 because people was like, why are you getting to fake? Why are you getting to this? She made it okay. I agree with you. And it was okay to do it because people really frowned upon on the surgeries like, ooh, you're getting all this surgery. Well, this is why too black women were mad
Starting point is 00:18:25 because Kim Kay did like braids in her hair one time and she was like, she said something or like people were like, Kim Kay started, made braids cracking like trendy, she started the braids. And black people were mad because like women for so long couldn't even go to work with braids like if you had a job or a job interview it's like you can't wear your hair like that you can't do it like and it was a protective style you know
Starting point is 00:18:48 for women and now Kim's doing it and it's cracking and now it's in the Vogue magazine but for black people it was but that's what I'm saying she's stealing the culture from black people she's making it relevant and popular I wouldn't even call it stealing I would say that the reason it's not stealing because I think imitation is a form of I agree I agree I agree Go ahead, you can take this. But when you acknowledge and honor it, what I don't like is when people do that and then they say they made it a trend,
Starting point is 00:19:16 because you know that there's historically with the Kardashians, they have ripped off small black creators for their ideas historically and have like lawsuits with them, Kylie, all of them. Like you'll take from a small black creator that don't have nothing
Starting point is 00:19:30 and you'll steal their whole idea, you'll make it crack and then you'll claim it as yours. And a lot of people do that. And it's like all I'm saying is it's okay. It's okay to do that. I don't even hate the Kardashians. I like Kim. I think she's fly.
Starting point is 00:19:44 I really do. But I think that as long as you can give people credit, like where it's due, like, honor the fact that, yes, this is from this. Like, this is from black people. I don't want to want the credit. You still my shit. You make it popular. Do you want to give me credit? I don't get shit for it.
Starting point is 00:20:00 No, just my don't give me. Don't even give me that credit. I get you. I get you. I didn't benefit from it. Well, your name could. It could. Like them just saying your name.
Starting point is 00:20:09 could be something for you and you could get cracking. So you never know. But all I'm saying, like, for them, if they mention a name drop somebody, it might change their life. You know, they're very influential, like you said, one of the most influential families in the world. Like, so I agree with you. I think she does.
Starting point is 00:20:25 So to all you girls out here, you're not going to look like Kim Kay. Stop. You're doing too much. You're going overboard. Kim Kay don't even look like Kim Kay. Be more of your natural self. be a natural soul like because girls lose
Starting point is 00:20:43 their self in the surgery you become you lose yourself like you lose your personality you lose your look you lose your soul like when you start looking some of these before and afters it's like it's
Starting point is 00:20:59 wow and now you you you and I get it you know it puts battery and some of these girls' backs because I didn't see something before and after pictures and now you was talking now you're talking like this because you can't
Starting point is 00:21:15 and you know but as men as a culture we have to do a better job because we like say hey if you don't look like this then you're not going to be you're not going to be popping. I'll never forget that one time I was with my home girl
Starting point is 00:21:33 and her man told her when I was right there she was he was like if you would have had some but I would have been proposed to you and you know that she hopped on a plane and got a BBL swear to God, true story swear to God and I was like wow
Starting point is 00:21:48 and it blew me and she looks great but I will honestly say like I'll never forget that day because it really like killed me and I feel like people always say to me like you don't understand because you have a certain body type and I get it I may not understand but I have a nose
Starting point is 00:22:04 that's big that I be thinking I want to nose y'all I have certain shit that I want to change all the time. What would you change about yourself? I told you I just always think about having a nose job. You know what I'm saying? Because I have a Persian nose. Like, I had the nose that Kim Kay had before she had a nose job. For real.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Like, you know what I'm saying? But I'm scared because I don't like how that looks sometimes. Like, I don't like that look of like that skinny. Like, it scares me. I don't want to look like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? So. What's wrong with your nose now, though?
Starting point is 00:22:35 I don't think nothing wrong with you. Thank you. But, you know, like, as a woman, you just analyze everything about yourself. You're like, I need to do like everything. You over just analyze, like, I should do this, I should have this, I should have this, like, I should have a boob job, I should have a no job, I should do this now. And you think that because you're just like you want to, you want to look perfect. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:22:54 Like you want to be the best version of yourself. And if I do this, maybe I will be. Like, you know, most. Like you say be the best version of yourself, right? But that's not physical. You know, I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about you. But I'm just talking about women always say,
Starting point is 00:23:11 I want to be the best version of myself. But all the women, you go out here, what is that? The fake hair, the fake nails, the fake eyelashes, the fake everything make you the best version of yourself? No, I wouldn't say that. But I would say that people, listen, when I say best version of ourself, it's more of a soul thing, inner thing.
Starting point is 00:23:30 But, you know, also too, physicality is important because men are visual people, you know, and when you're out here as a woman, you want to get and get the best man that you can get. Like, that's how women think. Like, if I look this way, I can get this man. I can finesse a dude and have this and change my life because I look like this.
Starting point is 00:23:51 So women literally work at these jobs, like McDonald's and crazy stuff, save money to get a BBL so they can go be around the crews of people and go try to find a man and be like, cool. Like, this is a thing. And that's why it's this whole episode. epidemic where women are like, I didn't got the BBL and I'm still working at McDonald's. Like, I'm still not. I still got the job. I'm still stressed out. Like, I still don't got
Starting point is 00:24:13 nothing cracking. So this goes back to like when we always had this conversation like who's the prize. Yeah. Women are doing all of that. Yeah, they are. Men have to be the prize. But men are doing a lot too. What? You will say it all the time. No, no, no. Let me tell you, I'll be honest with you. Today I was just thinking about this because I did like all this stuff like I have my legs wax my everything like my eyebrows this my hair and it hurts like you don't know how painful it is to get your legs and your body wax like I'm in there like I'm in so much pain right and I'm thinking to myself like damn we do all of this like it's so much and but you do like especially if you have a man you're like I have to make sure I'm fresh
Starting point is 00:24:56 I have this I have that like you want to do that for the person you're with yeah like I don't know that if that means they're the prize but I do think that I believe that men and women are the prize. I think both people bring and add so much value that they can make each other better if it's the right situation, in my opinion. So like, yeah, as women, we do a lot. We do. A lot. We do a lot. And it blows me because you do have to, low key, if you're like with somebody, like a man is going to be like, girl, uh-uh, like get this together. Like, you look a mess. Like, really in reality, like, just keeping real. Like, you're with a woman. her nails is chipped her hair is busted she looks she's a real one yeah she's a real one but you're
Starting point is 00:25:38 still going to be like baby let me give you some money so you could go get your shit together so we can go out and you can look like something like you have a chips like that looks crazy like chip nails busted broke like just looking crazy like hair busted hair like just looking a mess you're gonna you're not gonna feel not smelling good not like having an outfit that's fresh and a sweat and a Jordan like you're this is crazy for sure you're going to be like this is crazy like you could do that if you're chilling
Starting point is 00:26:08 and it's your girl and y'all are just like chilling and like but even then like men want a woman who's naturally beautiful without makeup and you're chilling with her and you're looking at her when she wakes up well naturally beauty without makeup is like what I like yeah no no what I'm saying is like
Starting point is 00:26:24 what that person likes from his girl like there's no set definition or no set person Like I might just like you like that. Right, no, for sure. You know what I'm saying? It don't matter like, like who's to say that somebody else can say you're not beautiful. I might just think that you're beautiful like that.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Or other people might not. Well, it's fine. I don't care what other people think. I like you like this. And this is the problem with the women because a man will tell you, I like you like this, but still want to do the other thing. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:56 It's like, damn, I liked you like this. and if but you cared more about what other people thought of you than your own man and that's sometimes yeah women do that a lot no women do that women do that a lot like he can tell you like baby I don't want you to get uh an ass implant I don't want you to get a breast implant I like you like this and I'm your whole man I'm your husband I'm your whole everything and you'll go I want to do it anyway that women do that I agree I agree with that you know what I'm You know that I was with someone who thought that like when people, he said he's been with women who got like implants and stuff implanted in their body.
Starting point is 00:27:35 He said it mentally, he was like, it literally mentally makes women like crazy. He's like, I really believe like putting things in your body. But I've always felt it been against of putting like things in my body. I don't want foreign objects in my body and stuff. Like that's why like, you know, like implants are like a silicone thing or like when people get implants or like, you know, one of the most dangerous surgeries. in the world is a BBL. It's the most dangerous surgery ever,
Starting point is 00:28:03 and people still do it every day. And it kills me because it's like, you want a butt so bad. But again, I don't know. Like, I can't relate to that portion of it, but I understand wanting to change yourself. You know, you can't relate. Shut up.
Starting point is 00:28:19 This is the Daily Fantasy segment brought to you by Price Picks, where you can win real cash by playing Daily Fantasy. Use code TAD and get $50, instantly in lineups when you play your first $5. So today we are going to talk about what do you want more from a woman and less from a woman? Or what do you wish men knew more about, like, what do you wish women knew more about men? Like what things do women just miss about men always?
Starting point is 00:28:49 And it's like, why don't you guys get this? I think sometimes women sometimes have a harder understanding of, reading the room you know from a man you know what I'm saying like so what we need
Starting point is 00:29:11 more of for women is do a better job at reading the room like if he have a long day he come up and you can see it on his face don't start irritating them with like just questions flooding them with shit
Starting point is 00:29:25 I mean and I think it's vice versa for the man too with a woman you know sometimes we might be irritating when you didn't have a long day and you don't really want to deal with it um but that's life but like as far as fantasy and what i want more from a woman like what do you want women to know about man like what are we missing yeah like what are women missing when it comes to man like you wish that all women just understood about a man every man is that different. But men
Starting point is 00:30:00 and like... You're not just basic like assembly line. Okay. So what it's... Everything has its own feature. What is yours? What are you? I'm asking you. So you ask for me? Yeah. Like what do you wish women knew? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That. I'm difficult.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I know that. 100% like and I understand that I'm difficult. But at end, the day I know I mean well and I want the best and like I said every man every woman is different I can't go into a relationship I can't go into a situation to be like all right this is going to a playbook there's no playbook for a relationship there's no playbook for like getting
Starting point is 00:30:51 to know that person you just have to know your partner and get to know your partner and ask questions. I think, you know, when you look at it at the end of the day, men need to be better at communication. More communication for men. Because women will over-communicate your ass. Yeah, we will. Like, 100%. Like, we have to be better at communication. We assume that y'all posted no stuff after the first time because, well, you know, we'll give you the playbook, but we got to keep giving y'all the playbook because y'all want to keep hearing the playbook. We do. And there's nothing wrong with you. But that's what I feel like, you know, I have to learn about women, you know.
Starting point is 00:31:31 But what a woman has to learn about a man, like, don't keep annoying him with the same damn things. And pick your battles. Yeah, that's a good one. You know what I'm saying? Women like small battles. Dang, you just ain't going to put the soap back. Like, come on, we're about to argue about that? like women have to do a better job at picking their battles with men like we can't be having all these little small battles
Starting point is 00:32:01 you know and i think that's one thing women have to do a better job at with us like you know when it's then when it's something major i get it oh you know this this or that the bill ain't been paid or you or you know it's like you know levels to like arguments yeah because then a man feels like you nagging it turns into nagging and that gets annoying for a man so i think women have to do a better job at figuring out what do I get hot at him about instead of you know what I can let that go we could talk about it but I can't all right this is one thing talk about stuff with a man but don't make it sound like an argument yeah that's what we're communication better at too yeah I can agree with that I think for me I would say I wish that man would
Starting point is 00:32:48 just accept and understand women are emotional creatures like we're emotional we have different hormone fluctuations literally we are like our bodies scientifically hormone like fluctuate every week we have a little phase we have ovulation then we're menstruating on our period like we have one good week out the month where it's not something going on and god forbid you have anything else in your life so when men complain about women and their emotions it's like do you not want to be with a woman because women are more emotional men are less like you guys have less emotion than us or at least you don't have the fluctuation of feelings like we do. So we might need more reassurance.
Starting point is 00:33:30 We might need to feel like we're love certain days or we need those things. And I wish men just understood that because that's just how we are. It just is what it is. And it's not really changing that. So if you really like women, you really like that because you know that that's what it is when it comes to being with a woman. Like that's just what we are. We're going to be emotional. And if we love you, it's going to be like we want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:33:51 period so that's how I feel yeah so cool but yeah so thank you to our good friends at prize picks America's number one sports app use code TAD and get $50 instantly in lineups when you play your first $5 but I couldn't relate to like wanting to
Starting point is 00:34:10 change yourself because you feel like you want to fit you should get the fans of 360 I'm not doing that no people ask for that every day I know like you said you can't relate sure why you can't relate. No, I'm not doing that. I'm not, I don't feel comfortable with that. I don't, I don't feel comfortable with that. How can, or so they can need to go to your page? I don't have my stuff on my
Starting point is 00:34:33 page. Go to, uh, uh, my pages don't show that. Yeah? No, I don't have that on my page. There's got to be something. Like, if they see me where, like, maybe like a video where I was, like, like, there might be a video where Darnel took where I'm like standing up. Oh, you just posted a video the other day I saw what you was dancing. Oh, my befores and after. If you do see my video before and after, you can see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you can't actually,
Starting point is 00:34:56 because I've been posting my weight loss before and after so you can see the full body so people can see my transformation. So, yeah, you can see it on there. But, you know, I'm not giving nobody no 360 real quick. No, Paul.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Like, what is wrong with you? I'm not promoting that. Come on, just a Vince Carter. No, I'm not promoting this. That's crazy. so anyway speaking of American women 1.4 million American women are now
Starting point is 00:35:25 on only fans 1.4 million women are only fans American women only are on only fans 1.4 million I don't know 1.4 so we have 1.4 I mean
Starting point is 00:35:43 there's nothing wrong with that I mean women are coming up off of that. Yeah women are supposedly these women are making so much money on there. Like, listen. Damn, it's crazy. It's crazy because this generation has learned to make money the easy way.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Exactly. And you know what? I should get more credit as a woman to have the body that I have and not be on OnlyFans. I think people should be really congratulating me for that. No, they should congratulate me for that. Because I could probably be coming up on a check right now off of OnlyFans, but I choose to not do that.
Starting point is 00:36:18 How much you will get? I'm getting, I'm getting paid. No, no, I'm just saying, how much you will take? Only fans, they said tomorrow we'll get paid. I'm not taking it. I'm not taking it. But you ain't got to do no sexual. You just got to be on some just like.
Starting point is 00:36:29 What do you have to do? Hanging around, just put some coconut oil alone. Naked? Just looks like some bikini or something. And you're just putting coconut oil? Just kind of dancing. No, no, no. The reason I can't do it is because it's just like a digital footprint that lasts forever.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Like, I really care about the fact that I'm like a certain type of woman. I really do. Like, that means so much of me. I cannot sell myself for that. You can go down bad. If I'm down bad, I always say you can hit their streets, honey. You can hit that. That's the new streets.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, you can hit the only bad. That's the new streets. But I don't, I don't put that on me. If I'm down bad and I'm on the streets on list, I'm not doing that. 100 million. Paul, leave me alone. And you know what's crazy is that men always are like, if I was a woman, I would be her only fares right now.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I would be telling my husband. Like, I'll be selling sex and everything. But the thing is, think about it like this. And you have to be, you got to think logically. Like, you got to think as a woman. You've dated a man and have boyfriends. That's like taking you to dinners and did all these things, spent money on you that you don't have sexual activities with.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You don't have to do no sexual activities for OnlyFans. Just be sexual and get me. People are having sex on there. Having sex on there? I don't know. The people who are making real money unless they're a celebrity. They're having sex. So they're monetizing porn on there.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yes. They're having sex. They're having sex. Women, each other, men, all that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're having sex. I don't follow. But the thing, because I know I see it on the internet, like people talk about it.
Starting point is 00:38:09 Like, even one of the girls that's, like, super popular. She has a whole thing called a bop house. And, like, in Miami, it's like all the bops that have only fans. They live in one house? They live in, I guess they do content. I think it's a content house. Kind of like sex house. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:26 And I see it because I just see things on the internet and like they talk about it. Like they'll promote like, guess what guys tonight we're doing this. Even the Adam 22 guy with his wife or whatever, she has sex with black men on there. He watches or they do three sons. Like it's all about having sex. Like there's some women who make shakes that they're not making the same. Unless they're like a celebrity that people are obsessed with in one. see them like black china she probably don't have sex on there she just be doing her own thing
Starting point is 00:38:52 because people want to see her she's already famous like so it's different because you have a huge fan base but if you're a person that's just regular and you just have a body or something you're just like a little you not you having sex you having sex like men can see too many other things to just watch you and pay you're not nobody just to be yeah you're having sex on there and I'm never doing that like ever so you can't pay me to do that I'm just telling that right now So, but like a Ruby Rose, like she's on there. Let me ask you a question. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Like, if a man, a stranger, just a good-looking man on the street right now. Hey, I've been following your podcast, and I really admire you, you're beautiful and everything. Like Pretty Woman. You see that movie? Yeah, I love Pretty Woman. That's one of my favorite movies. But in a different way, what he said? Hey, I just want to hear his $20 million just a sneak.
Starting point is 00:39:48 Um, that's crazy. Like, because that's out of control. No. Because you know how... I feel like that's what only fans is. But have you ever seen the movie? Have you ever seen the movie where it's the couple and they go to that house with the famous, the man who's really rich and he says, I propose a deal for one night.
Starting point is 00:40:06 I want you and I'll give you like a million dollars. And she goes back to her husband and the husband's like, do it. Like he's thirst. Do it, do it. Like, we need the money or whatever. Just one night. Who cares? What's the name?
Starting point is 00:40:15 I forgot the name. And then she goes and does it. it but then there's always strings attached my dad always taught me listen there's always going to be strings attached i remember a man bought me like a red bottom where red bottoms was like so cracking and expensive and i was such a young i was young i was like 17 18 years old and i came home and i showed my dad and he was just like what like a man who's doing that for you i hope you know what that means like there are strings attached to that he's not just buying those shoes for $2,100
Starting point is 00:40:46 and this is a long time ago. Like, no. Like, so there's always whatever you do, there's a price to pay. Whether it's a financial price or something else, a piece of your soul, your heart, your spirit, you're going to pay something, maybe. So, like, I don't want to, like,
Starting point is 00:41:01 play them type of games. And then lifestyles is really dark. Like, that porn world and them strippers, like, it's a dark lifestyle. Like, I had a homegrown Atlanta who was a stripper, one of the most popping strippers at Ony strip club, and she lived in a hotel. like a crazy one and like with a sun and like it's just it's too much like i don't like that lifestyle
Starting point is 00:41:21 it's just dark and then you're what do you think the strippers are also doing other things like you're not just stripping now a man's going to come in there hey i'll give you 10 000 for the night to do this then you're doing that and then who knows what else is happening i'm not living like that yeah that's scary what if a woman came up to you right now and was like hey paup pierce i love you down I'm such a fan of yours I'll give you $20 million right now I'll give you $20 million for what Get a cracket
Starting point is 00:41:50 I need everything but I can do anything How long she gets? She gets one night and she could do anything She wants to you I'm just saying like she gets cracking No no no Stick nothing in the exit hole Now we ain't doing all that
Starting point is 00:42:06 Nah no no we ain't don't don't anything Okay so no without that Without that without that but anything else what you mean anything else though it's got to be slow you know we're not saying that part no exit whole thing I'm gonna be like how much you said 20 mil
Starting point is 00:42:26 right now you come with me no questions like no give me your phone turn it off because I don't want no one to know where we're going okay get in right now the car is right here right there yeah 20 mil she's about 80 years old run that You know? Run that. See, that's the thing about man.
Starting point is 00:42:45 I'm going to roll something up. I'm going to have some breaks. I'm going to be run that. You know what? You know what's crazy? I want to ask you a question. This is the thing. Men are so different.
Starting point is 00:42:56 That's why men are always like, if I was a woman, I would do this, right? But let me tell you, what's the scariest thing you have to think about on a date, like on your first day? Like, what's the craziest thing,
Starting point is 00:43:06 like the scariest thing, that would happen? I think for a man getting set up. Okay, getting robbed. Possibly even killed. From a woman, like getting set up by a woman. That's a good one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, so women have so many worries more than that on a first day or meeting up with them. Yeah, you do. No, you're right, you're right. What? Okay, getting raped before you're getting killed, you don't think that that's crazy. Like getting all these things, drugged, raped, killed. Like, that's.
Starting point is 00:43:41 worse than just getting robbed and killed, I probably just get robbed and killed because then I'm not getting raped too. You don't think that that's worse to get raped before? I'd rather a woman's rape me than killed. Yeah, you're a man. You're a man.
Starting point is 00:43:53 You don't know about being raped as a man. Like, maybe you do, like, men know about that. I'm not going to take that away from a man. What's the worst thing? No, no. But men, men as women, we have to fear away more things than men. When it comes to being around man,
Starting point is 00:44:09 when it comes to, like, you can't even, like, go walk. at a certain time at night. You can't go running. Like, men have the freedom to do a lot of other things that women don't have the freedom to do. What type of women are we talking about? Does that matter?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah, it does matter. What demographics does this happen? This type of things happen to. Like, I can't go do some of those things. Then what? Like, you can't go running and walking at night. Like, I can't go. How the hell do you want to go walking and running at night?
Starting point is 00:44:37 Okay, I'm done with this combo with you. Take that shit during the day. Be smart. My point is, even if it's not night, it gets dark early. It could be 5 o'clock and I want to go walk to the store really quick. I want to go do something outside. Like, you have to live in much more fear all the time. I have to look behind my back.
Starting point is 00:44:54 I'm scared because I can't protect myself against a man. One time I was in traffic. So you know that. Don't do those things to make you scared. There's some things that you can't control. I was in traffic one day and a man opened my back door and sat in my car and was crazy, a psycho man. You was Uber driving? No.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I was in my car Goodbye I'm not having a What you're talking I'm trying to figure out What you're talking about You said you was in your car And a man
Starting point is 00:45:20 Jumped in your back shit Yeah Yes Lock your goddamn doors Yeah okay What's your damn problem See women Y'all don't think about
Starting point is 00:45:29 I do I do I was at home And the man just walked to my house Lock your goddamn door When you're at home What's your problem
Starting point is 00:45:38 I lock my What's wrong what you females. Lock your damn door. I lock my door. Y'all just be cruising and be like, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I have some awareness. I have awareness. I have awareness. My door is locked. Me too. Me too, though. When I'm driving down the street, my doors is locked.
Starting point is 00:45:59 But what if it's just an accident that your door wasn't locked? Like, it was just literally a fluke. I had just hopped into my car and got out and boom, I just didn't lock my door right away. So you jumped in the car. right in.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Goodbye. I'm not, I'm not, I'm going to move forward. Carry some mace. I have some. So if anyone tries to run up, I have some. Don't try me, because I'm not just loose out here. I am protected. That's great.
Starting point is 00:46:25 I'm protected. He did. He did. I was on Santa Monica. Okay, so what happened? It was crazy. I was on Santa Monica. I had just got out.
Starting point is 00:46:35 He jumps in the car. He jumps in the car. And literally I was like, oh my God, are you okay? And because he was calm. Yeah, because I'm not going to panic under pressure. Like, I've been through a lot of crazy situations. So I know how to be calm. And I'm like, what was going on?
Starting point is 00:46:52 Because he's like, he's like a crackhead. So I'm like, I'm nervous because first of all, you smell. I don't want you to touch me. And I just don't want like you to do anything to me. So I'm just like, are you good? Do you need me to take you somewhere? Yeah, I don't know. Like, I was like, all right.
Starting point is 00:47:06 Well, I'm going to pull over and we're going to get you somewhere. And he was like, all right, it's tripping. So you was driving. Yeah. So you was in the middle of traffic, jumps in, and then you would just come, like, is everything okay?
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yeah, I was. All right, you just come? Yeah. That's why. You're supposed to be like, you're supposed to cause a scene. You're a woman. You've got to cause a scene.
Starting point is 00:47:28 You got to make people aware that something ain't right right now. And it's traffic, as a woman, this is my advice. If something you're uncomfortable with, you got to cause a scene to where now, eyes is looking. You got people looking. No, everyone was already looking.
Starting point is 00:47:44 They already knew. Everyone was looking. They saw, no, they saw him jump in and I was looking like the person. No one did anything. They might have thought you was picking him out. Nobody cared. Like, you got to cause a scene.
Starting point is 00:47:57 You got to be like, hey, this guy's in the car. Well, the thing about causing a scene is I didn't want him to react to me causing a scene. He was sporadic. You got to jump out that damn car. He was sporadic. You got to tell about that damn car. I'm teaching you just as like for your own saying.
Starting point is 00:48:10 No, I'm listening. Jump out the car, because what if he jump behind you? He could, like, slash you. That's what I'm saying? I was nervous. You got to cause a scene. You got to jump out. But what if I caused the scene and then he did something and it, like, made him react.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Immediately jump out the car and yell. Immediately. Okay. I'll do that next time. You hear that ladies, that's what we have to do. What are lies that all black people tell? Black people always tell. Like, what's a lie that black people always tell?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Oh, that's easy. I'm on my way. oh my god bill i'll be there 15 i'll be there 50 did it 15 hey all right so 15 15 means 30 45 if you like it i love it right i'll be there i'm on my way i'm not sleeping i'm just resting my eyes i'm just resting my eyes why would i lie you know what I'm saying call me if you need anything i'm praying for you I'm going to call you right back. I'm going to call you right back.
Starting point is 00:49:13 My hair was long till my mama gave me a perm. I'm crying. That's a funny thing. Anyway, so young GZ was on a podcast with T.D. Jakes, Bishop, T.D. Jakes. And he was basically saying that he feels like, you know, obviously he was married and he went through a divorce. Okay, he was married and he went through divorce and he feels like the key to a healthy marriage. is to be friends first. Do you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:49:44 He feels like he didn't do that with his last marriage. Now he's divorced, and he's like, I feel like if the foundation of a good marriage is to have a friendship with that person. I think so. I think that's a good foundation to have. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:58 It sounds, you know, but like how long we, I mean, you know, it's difficult because there's no book on this. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it is. Because truthfully, a lot of relationships start sexual and it's built on sex.
Starting point is 00:50:13 And that's not good, though. I feel like 90% of relationships are built on sex. But I think that's the problem. That's what he's saying. He's like, I built my relationships like that and they were falling apart because we didn't get to know each other and have the foundation. I just think when you're in relationships,
Starting point is 00:50:31 you've got to figure out what works for you. That's what works for you. You know, that's what works for you. And whether it's built on sex Which is built on friendship It's still can end Like you don't want it to end You know so
Starting point is 00:50:42 You know whatever you just mentally And physically you feel like It's the right thing That you feel like going to have a great foundation Longroom then you got to do that Okay and then one last thing And then we're going to wrap it up Portia Williams who recently came out
Starting point is 00:50:56 Within a lesbian relationship She said successful women attract jealous men Who want to tear us down Do you agree with that? Successful women attract jealous men who want to tear us down. Dim our light and make us feel like less than, basically. I mean, she's in that.
Starting point is 00:51:16 She's in that. She's a successful black woman. Yeah. And, you know, she's probably feeling that. You know what I'm saying? So I really don't know how I feel about that. I feel like it's a shame. I just feel like success, it doesn't even have to be a woman.
Starting point is 00:51:33 I think people try to tear you down when you're successful anyway. That's true. You know, it has no color. But do you feel like if you're with a woman in a relationship and you're successful, a woman would be like trying to tear you down? That don't even sound like. Why are you trying to tell me down if we're together? That's what she's saying.
Starting point is 00:51:51 In a relationship, men get with women who are successful and they try to dim their light and tear them down. Oh, damn. I wouldn't even know how to speak on that. Like, because I'll be trying to uplift you. I'll be proud of you. like because you a lot of a lot of successful men don't don't get with successful women yeah you know so like maybe the man is not successful and she is and he's trying to
Starting point is 00:52:15 tear it down because you want yeah and it's messing with his ego that's what it happens you know what I'm saying so he like oh you know instead of trying to uplift her and be like be proud of her and try to take her to the next level you got to be like you want some jealousy shit really like which is weak that's a weak that's a weak and it doesn't mean it doesn't it doesn't mean that the man is not successful because I was I'll never forget this my ex told me years and years ago I was like I think I want to start a podcast because people always tell me
Starting point is 00:52:42 like I have a voice and I talk and he looked me dead in the face and was like you should never have a podcast like yeah no he literally told me swear to God I'll never forget this moment he was like you honestly like you know like you're smart but like sometimes like I don't know how smart you are and like
Starting point is 00:52:58 if someone asked you a question I wouldn't want you to be embarrassed because you don't know how to respond like I just think I don't want you to look stupid like people train for this you're just not meant for that type of thing and i literally was like damn okay and i really was like okay and i didn't do it at that time timing is everything but people do that i think some men and women that go both places they don't want you to be bigger than them that's what it is 100% because if i keep you here you need me and you're depending on me so if i know you have something and a gift and you start to show that to the world you can go past me
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