Club Shay Shay - LeBron Was Right About Women! | Truth After Dark

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Truth After Dark family we are back with another great show for you! Paul & Azar get personal on a list full of topics such as: Watching your partner masturbate, women shaving, dating an Ai doll, going “down” on a first date, & so much more! The lights really turn off on this episode so put the kids to sleep, grab a bottle of wine, and light some candles! #Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an I-Heart podcast. What do you feel like is the foulest thing that you've ever done on a date? We got into some type of argument for some reason. And I was like, what we argued? Like, it got to the point. I was just like, get out in the middle of downtown. As a grown woman, you shouldn't be shaving your couter. You ain't never had somebody like, play with that.

Maybe. I'm moaning. I'm, oh, yes. You know, I'm getting myself going. Yeah. I don't need you to be doing all of that. Shut up. Be quiet.

You used to get to talk and do it all that. Shut up. You're messing up my concentration. So you just want someone to be, what if she's like? Ooh, yes, daddy. Shut up. I got this. What?

What's your preferred toy of choice? Lord, this is getting a little too extra. Would you get into a relationship with an AI companion? It depends on if this. He was hitting. He walked in, he was a middle of it. Like, yeah, yeah, who are you? Damn!

God damn! You walked in, he was just making sound effects. What's you doing? Woo! I mean, and you can... He's like, damn! It would just be like, damn, you don't even do all that, but we have... Ha ha ha!

This is the taking over the game. All right, everybody, welcome to truth after dark. Do you think that men or women are more toxic? Hello, beautiful people. Welcome to another episode of the Truth After Dark. I'm your host, Azar Faraday. Truth in the building. How are you feeling tonight?

Good. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? So, um... Man, a lot going on, huh? Yeah, it was your birthday.

How are you feeling now that you really cooked? Really cooked? I'm really cooked. Damn, I don't think men get cooked. I don't either. I think men. 70? Even they could still get shit cracking after 70.

Man don't have that expiration date. Yeah, my boy Al Pacino's still having babies. Yeah. He's like 80 some. They be doing that big one. Man be popping. You know, Bella check. Popin.

Lord. Okay. What's going on? So let's get into it. So LeBron was just on his wife's pod and he said that there's a lot of ruthless-ass-bitches. That's his words, exactly, who do man dirty. Do you agree? Ruthless.

Man, of course I agree with that. Man, because women are way more ruthless at like, Like, this is the thing, women be out here setting dudes up, getting them robbed, getting them killed, doing all type of, giving all type of traps out. Man, don't do that to females. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So when you say ruthless, it's an evil world. And girls, sometimes some women have just a one-track mind.

I'm going to get this dude set up. I'm going to try to get him child support, robbed, things. Like, we got to look out for all type of shit. For real, you really got to be careful and really vet the person that you're trying to hang out with. You know, everything can be all good. And, Andy, the next thing you know, you're getting robbed. You know what I'm saying? That happens a lot.

That happens a lot. And that's just, I mean, men don't do that. Men don't do that to women. You know, women are out here doing shit like that. And it's just, man, I mean, I don't know if he meant it in that type of context or, you know, like I've seen it in divorces where the woman tries to take everything he gave her a life and women be trying to take it all like damn you know where did the love go at some point you know it's just like then I think the things like that is kind of ruthless it's like when you try to

it's almost like trying to strip a man down to just naked bare knuckles like how they do you in jail damn I mean I was just saying I mean bend over cough all that make sure there's nothing in there Do you think that women or men are, who's quicker to be able to, like, turn off their feelings and go cold? Do you think it's women or man? It's men. I mean, no, no, no. Hell no. It's always women.

You think women? I feel like women are more emotional. It's harder. Like, if I love someone, I can't just be like, I'm turning off my feelings and I'm going cold. Turn off and go cold? Damn. I think, uh, I don't know, because the get back is always because of the man, I feel like.

What did you mean to get back? Oh, like getting back together? Yeah. It's because the man is plaguing and breathing and he's initiating all the getbacks. I think we do all the get back more so than one. But is it because the man is doing the wronging and that's why he asked me to do all the getbacks? I mean, it don't matter who do all the wrong. Time heals all.

But the man is doing the get back. But it's just like men are doing the wronging. get back because they're the ones dogging the women most of the time, don't you think? And that's, because what is the woman going to be doing to get back, but you're the one who fucked up? That don't make sense. I'm begging to get you back, but you cheated on me yesterday? Like,

of course you're going to do the get back. I think women cheat more than men. I still have not seen that statistic to be true. I do think that men get caught more because men are more sloppy. They change the routine. Because men don't look as hard as women too.

Unless you just obvious signs. Like, you know, not all answering your phone, like, just weird, just not just doing stuff like when you just out of the norm, out of character. Yeah, for sure. You know, just stuff that you do, you just be like, damn. And so, well, you know, men don't really harp on it like women do. Yeah, but I think that it goes both ways. I feel like with men, they hold. hold on to things, which makes it worse.

I think at least a woman is just like, we'll ask, we'll communicate, we'll have that conversation. You know what I mean? And I think men harp by holding on to it, and then they create resentment. Women know what to do to make a man forget. Women know what to do to make a man forget. I don't know.

Yeah, you know. No, I don't know. Women know what to do to make a man forget. If you did something wrong to him, you know what to do. You're going to be like, damn, I'm good, happy, I'm good. Shoot. No, but men be bringing shit up and try to throw shit in your face, too.

Just like a woman does. And when a man bring it up, you know what to do. Every time you know what to do. Every time. He's going to be like, my bad. I don't feel like women cheat more than men. I still cannot get behind that. I'm going to keep it real, and I'm going to stand tall on that and ten toes down

because I have yet to see a whole bunch of women cheating. Like, I don't believe that. Like, I don't see. a whole bunch of women cheating all the time. Like, I think women do cheat, and I think they get away with it, a lot more slicker and quicker than men. And I've said that before,

but I still think that men might have women be with that one because men have more temptations and desires. I think if a woman is cheating, it's genuinely because she's checked out the relationship. And she's no longer interested, and she's just like, I'm over this shit, right, at this point. He's done cheated, he done did X, Y, and Z, and I'm going to cheat back, and I'm going to be, like, look,

I don't see why else are you cheating then? Because you're cheating because you never really liked them. You just like the situation he put you in. Oh, yeah, that's deep. You know what I'm saying? I never heard of that, but that's real. I mean, I've heard of that, but that's real how you put that. Okay.

So people are just in a situation because it's helpful to them type shit. Okay. So you're just going to roll along with it and still do you. And still cheat the whole time. That makes sense. I could get her behind that. I could believe that for sure. So back to what LeBron says, what do you think the dirtiest thing you've ever heard a woman

due to a man or a woman due to you? What is the dirtiest thing you ever heard a woman? Due to a man or like due to you. Like what do you feel like is like bottom of the barrel? Man or a woman due to a man. Well, for me, I think like if you take care of somebody and they steal from you. facts. I agree with that. That's the bottom of the barrel for me.

That's the bottom of the barrel for me too. That's the bottom of the barrel. Like, if you're my girl or something, if we've been together or something for a long time, or you still? Yeah, that's bottom of the barrel. Like, you know, I've been able to get over cheating. I've been able to get over, like,

maybe even being lied to. Yeah. But, like, still, it's the worst, I feel like. Because that's that, because it just cut. Like, we talked about this before, because it covers everything. Yeah, we never talked about on the show, but yeah, we have talked about that.

It covers everything. Yeah, Ryan covers, I mean, stealing covers lying and cheating. Yeah, for sure. Like, cheat is just cheating. And if you're willing to steal, what else are you willing to do? Exactly.

Like, that's dirty. Yeah, that's crazy. I agree 100%. What do you feel like is the foulest thing that you've ever done on a date? Like, have you ever left some? one mid-mill or, like, just decided, like, you're not going to... That was a strong word.

Like, you know, have you ever walked out on someone on a date and been like, you know what, I'm not, I'm not, I'm leaving? Or have you ever decided, like, oh, I'm going to make this girl pay for the dinner? Have you ever done anything of that nature? Yeah, a lot. You've done that? Yeah. Which one?

Both? I mean, I've done, I remember one case, I was, uh, I don't know, I remember. I went out with this girl. We went to a spot. This is before Uber. It was like here downtown, L.A. And then we got to some type of argument for some reason. And I was like, what we argued?

Like, it got to the point. I was just like, get out in the middle of downtown. And this was a date? This was a day. Yeah, okay. I was like, you got to get out. Kicked her out right there. And like, it was a dark place, too.

You kicked her out in a dark alley downtown? It was like in the parking lot at a spot at a parking lot, though. And it was like no Uber then. Why would you, that's foul? Because I don't deal with disrespect either. It was something that happened that was disrespectful. It was like super disrespectful. Yeah, it was disrespectful.

And that's one thing I won't tolerate ever. So I was like, you got to get out right now. And then the crazy thing about it, I didn't see the girl for like some years. And then I ran back and I ran into her, but I told her about it. You know, I was like, man, you can't, you know. And we became. cool again, but it wasn't, like, I don't know, like, trying to get with her no more. It was just, like, just cool.

Like, I see her or something. It would just be cool. Damn, that's cold. I didn't get that. I didn't walk out on the middle of a dinner. I'm like, I'm good. You just got up and walked out? Yeah, I'm good.

I'm not feeling that. And just left her with the bill and everything? No, I was just like, here, boom, boom, boom here, I'm out. I'm good. What was said? Like, what makes a make? Nothing else needs? Oh, what was said?

Like, what? made you do that like what makes someone do it okay so one day i went out she came in some she oh this our first day she came in a sweatsuit and i was just like it was me and my boy i had my boy come sit at the table over there you know you're just watching me making sure i'm straight yeah and i was just like she came in a sweatsuit and i was just like damn this is how you coming and so i was like you know what i i'm good and i got up and it was like hey man you know get her you know you stay here, eat with her, have a drink, and I'm, I'm out. Because she came in the sweatsuit.

You felt like it was disrespectful. Yeah, this is the first day. You don't come in no goddamn sweatsuit. Like, this is our first day. This is what you think of me? Like, this is, we, I'll take me to this nice restaurant and you came in a sweatsuit. This is all you felt?

Like, well, I'm good. You're not my type off the jump. Because you didn't know to, like, put the heels on and get nice for the date. Like, you know what I'm saying? That's like, what? Like that that I'm like no I'm good I got up and just like all right

You know my boy gonna stay I gotta bounce Damn that's cold blooded I bet she didn't show up In a sweatsuit again after that There wasn't no more days after that No I'm saying just in her life She probably was like

Yeah I'm not sure She learned her lesson Because of that shit Yeah I'm cool on that Like it's this If you're on the first day Don't come in the sweat The first day

I think Like that's like I can get to know them And stuff Like damn we're cool And we didn't have a vibe going and you just wanted to relax but like the first one like I'm coming with my bomb cologne

my like shirt I'm trying to look proper like I feel like the girl should do that too I agree and I think the girl should maintain that with her man even like you should want to look good there's times where you could be chill like but you know you should want to be looking good and like representing your person

and I just believe that too in general that's crazy though you just walked out on her like whatever yeah I was good I was just like, no, I'm good. Damn, you seem like you just be good off of any little thing, though. That's not any little thing, though. No, it's not.

Because if it happens early, it's going to happen once you get into it, it's going to get worse. Yeah, that's true. I'm cool at the beginning. Like, when it's right there, that's the red flag. I mean, I don't know if it's considered a red flag, but I ain't feeling that. For you, you're not feeling that. I'm just not feeling that. So if we're doing it early, then imagine when you get comfortable with somebody.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Are you someone that's like when I'm with my girl or I'm out on a date with girl or like whatever you want them to like are you the type of man that's like they need to be in hills 100% like no matter what that's standard like we don't start we're just hills and then we'll figure out the rest no but i'm saying like okay so not just first date but like overall like y'all go out and this is your girl at this point or this is someone you're just dealing with should they always be in hills when you go out

depends on where we're going. Like, if I'm taking you to the fair or the carnival. Right. But I'm saying you guys are going on your dates or you're going out wherever, like dinners, dates. Are those, are you one of those men like, my girl got to be in hills? I feel like this. If you are out with me, you are a representation of me. You're an extension of me. So when you're seeing with me, people don't be like, oh, okay, I get it. Right, right, right, right. You want someone to look that. But do, Do they have to have hills to look that, in your opinion? You better be looking goddamn good.

That outfit better be outfitting. That how they better be outfitted. I mean, it just looks better. Yeah. It looks better. I feel like that's a grown woman. It's classy, I feel like. Yeah.

I mean, I don't want you coming in no Reeboks and no Air Force One or some Jordans. That's a, that's wild. Who's doing that? Don't pull up no, no, Jordans. Jordans is great I'm good Jordan is out of pocket and wear some Jordans on any of the dates

you can't wear Jordans on none of the day No you shouldn't be wearing Jordans And that's my favorite player It depends on we're going though We're going to like a fair The movies and type of shit like that Yeah bowling Okay cool

I get what you're saying But you're like if you're out with me You're not wearing no sand This Friday we're going out I ain't telling you where we're going That's going to be the test Let's see what she do Well, she puts on type thing.

Right. So, I mean, yeah, that means something because you setting a standard, you know, because I'm going to set a standard like, man, you know, I'm like, like, think about this, women do stuff for men, just like men do stuff for women. Yeah. Like, we get the cars we get, we get the clothes we get for the women. We get the jewelry, we get the look how we want for the woman. I feel like the woman should do same thing for the men.

I think women do that for the most part. You know, you getting your lips right and your hair done and where you're, where you're these heels just because you want to look good for the man that you mess with, right? 100%. Women do that. Let's do it. Yeah, I think women do that. I think that there is a culture of like more of a kickback lazy style sometimes, but I think

that most of the time, most women like to get dolled up, like, and be feminine and smell good and look good for their man. I personally believe that most, a lot of women do that, in my opinion. Yeah, but there's some women out there that might wear a hoodie. I'm good. I'm good. Don't wear a hoodie. like just at all or just on a date

if we go out to eat no not don't wear a hoodie to like to go out there night because this is our night till I want to like I'm taking you out because I want to see you looking good right are you one of those like nails not done and it's like this is crazy that or you do you care about like the particulars of things

like your nails aren't done I'm looking at all of that your hair is not done I'm I'm you're peeping it all you're clocking it You're clocking that. Okay, you're clocking all of that. You're clocking all of that. Let me come back to that.

I'm going to see how consistent you are. Yeah, you're clocking that. Yeah, I'm going to look when I, you know, it ain't going to be on. Some little stuff I can deal with. Like the outfit ride heels, the nails ain't done, but it can't be all chipped. You could just have low nails. Chift is crazy. Yeah, just have no nails.

You know, then do you have a chip nail. I can't. I love to have a nail zone. But I will say that upkeep for women, women complain because they're like that's a lot it's not as expensive to upkeep a man than it is a woman like your nails are and your toes are these days like 170 your hair is three something minimum your you know just like all your stuff as a woman we're not going out like that we like once every two twice a month four times a month you're not going out twice a month

you're going out more than that for show just anyone like twice a month is not enough people are going out hitting it twice a month and don't you feel as it like you better get that hair that last a couple weeks that's all that get that one that's going to get that wig get that lace that's going to let's fry I'm crying that shit look good for a couple weeks okay shit come on don't be doing me like that okay just every weekend you need to get your hair down 300 300 that's I don't think it's every weekend but I'm saying like if you want a woman to upkeep stuff it is It does add up, low key. But then you want to wax,

so a woman has to get waxed. Man, you're just going to get that big shaver. No, it's different because when you shave. Shave that day, you pull up. It's just not to hit the same. I'm going to tell you that right now. It does not hit the same. Like, as a grown woman, you shouldn't be shaving your cower.

But you should know how to wax your couter, too. You should not know how to wax your own vagina. Do you know how hard that is? You have to look down, get into the lips, hot wax. Like, who's doing that? No one is waxing their own vagina. I don't know. I don't know that situation.

Yeah, so don't think that you could just make shit up like, oh, you should be, she should be cutting your own hair. That's easier for men. Man can do that, but you're still not doing that. Waxing your vagina is crazy. Which goes into, have you seen the skims has the vagina thongs that have koochie hair on? you know that they sold out what are your thoughts on that do you feel like that's fly would you want your girl to be in that koochie thong i got to see them on they probably look sexy i don't know

the little kuchi hairs yeah i know it's just fake though it probably looked like sexy on the end of some panties like a little fake kuchi hair that's crazy to me like who's buying those items like a lot of women did because it's sold out clearly and then they come off you're like oh okay that's that wax it's really that but then what's the point like because most men prefer a like waxed or whatever so like why would you want to see it that way then no people do i know people who like different you know that's like nothing we nobody hasn't made that so it's like damn that can look sexy just she walking around with those on and it just you know it looked like it's a hairy thing and it just like damn this is crazy what do you mean what what it's just been like but you know but

you know, but when you know on your mind that it ain't, it's just like, you know, it's just like when you wear clothes. It's just like wearing clothes. It's just coochie clothes. That is, sounds crazy. And you know, she also has the bras that are like a hard nipple.

Yeah. I think that's cute, but I just think that like you, if you're wearing that though. Don't fool me. Don't fool me. You fooling me now. No, because your nipple can't be hard, but sometimes if you have a supportive bra, you can't see that the nipple is hard. But the thing about that is

if you're wearing a hard nipple, you're getting it cracking. Like anyone who's buying that bar is trying to get it cracking. If you're wearing it and then it come off a name that they don't... They're not giving that. They're not giving that.

He's like, damn, dog. I saw them through the shirt. I thought they was that. You thought they was giving that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, damn, you fooled me. I mean, women are need to stop fooling me. Y'all fool us too much anyway.

Yeah, I agree. There's too much foolery going on. I agree. I get the fake hair, nails, eyes. Now it's the fake nipple. Like, damn, come on. They're all killing us. Oh, and you know what else they have now?

They have, Skims has it, and it be sold out. They have the fake hips. That's what I'm saying about. And the butt enhancers. I'm about to date me an AI. Let me just give me an AI robotic something. Since everything fake, might as well go AI when them robots coming out. Now I'm crying.

So would you get into a relationship with an AI companion? it depends on if it's hitting if they make it to where stuff is hitting yeah no let's say because you know how they have the sex dolls now I can turn you off would you get into like so would you like let's say it's a sex dog because they're really realistic now that's alive that's talking

and it's talking because they are going to have that because they already have them sex dolls and they have the robots so let's say they have it and it's talking it's like hi Paul hi baby I'm Jessica what do you need today What do you need? Would you like some head? Your wishes might come in. Yeah.

Would you have that? Make Daddy a sandwich. Okay, Daddy. We'll do. Any time. Man, think about if they had that after a hard breakup and you get that right in the crib. No, that's depressing, though. That's not depressing, though.

Because then you're like, damn, I miss. To me, if I go through a breakup and I get around any other person that's like supposed to be like flirting in a vibe, I get so sad because I'm going to compare them. And then I'm going to be even more depressed. I'm sitting here with this robot. I don't have no command yet in real life. That's because a man is different.

Man, it's going to have a feel. It has a feel to it. It's going to do it on command. Like, hey, you know, go over there and, you know. But so you don't care about like real emotion and real connection then. You don't value that. Yeah, of course you value that. But in times of like depression, you might want that.

You're going to get that instead. Okay, so moving on. Okay, so our girl, Joy Taylor, she said on her podcast, if she comes to a man's house that she's dealing with and he doesn't have extra toothbrushes and stuff like that, like she don't love that. Like she wants to go over to a man's house and he has the items prepared, washcloths, products, everything.

And then she said that one time she wants to, went to a man's house, and when she was over there, he had everything. And then he also, on his headboard, had an eyelash and went on the floor, a strip. Damn. So she said, she loved that. She was like, I like that. He got bitches. I like that.

Joy, you know what? I love Joy. Hey, Joy, you know what else he got? He got extra panties. He got extra laundry for you in case you forget. He got extra heels for you, too. She's like, man. I love Joy down.

But you know what? She wants a dude that's a whole player. Exactly. You know what I think of joy? I think Joy like that because I think Joy a player too. She a little player. She's a player. Oh, no.

I don't know it. This is just me guessing. Don't do her. That's my sister and I love her. But like when you say stuff like that, I'd be like, damn, you know, I'm not even tripping if he got the eyelashes because, all right, we ain't tripping. She said it was her first day over there. Now, now don't get mad at me if I got something. Okay.

I'm crying. But this is what I'm going to say If I go to a man's house And he has all these items available I'm a second guess him I don't like that Because then it's like you just have any woman over here Like you just have all this available

Because you have other women running through here And I do not fuck with that Because it makes me feel away Like are you just He might got extra lashes in case yours fall off I don't even have fake lashes No I'm just saying But my point is

Yeah If he got the extra two-bra? You mad if he got the extra. What if he got all the sizes? I had a boy. He had extra heels in his house. He had like all the sizes. This is, well, no.

That's wild. And what if he had, like, pajamas, like, but not just a man's shirt. Like, no, because a man will give you a shirt. But, like, a, like, actual, like, little lingerie dress here. If a man has lingerie at his house, I'm cool. But what if we got the tag on it? It's still brand new. We got to just closet that.

I hate it because that means why. Like, you have women over here all the time. Even Joyce said it means you have bitches. I don't like that. I like, yeah, let me be clear. Of course, like, I'm not going to be with a man who women don't desire because a man's not, a man is, men desire me, women desire the person I'll probably be with. But the point is, is you are just moving sloppy into me.

And that means I don't know if I could trust you. I don't want to lay up and have sex with you. Do you have something? Do you just, all these energies passing through all these women, is someone going to pull up here? Like, I don't feel safe. I don't feel like it's a safe space for me. And I don't want to deal with a man who's, like,

in that stage of his life where he still wants to be a player because there's nothing in that for me. So my boy, he had the, so he had all these clothes for women and all the different sides. Not only heels, he had tennis shoes, he had clothes. And what he called the closet? You're making this up. No, I'm not.

I can't make this up. I got friends that got a lot of money that do stuff with a lot of different girls. I've seen it. And what is the closet? What is it? So he got this closet. He called it the walk-of-shame closet because he lived in a high-rise. So, you know, they call it the walk-of-shame when the girl walk out and she's missing one of eyelashes and the makeup all messed up and she in her club outfit.

So he got the fits for her to not look like she's going through the walk-of-shame. He got like the hoodie for her, the sweatsuit for him. Like, so when you walk out, you don't feel like you're walking through the walk of the walk of shame. And I was like, damn, that's crazy. You know what's crazy? And I'm not even trying to do this. And I know you'll never believe me because just on the last episode you said that I have a crazy list of men that I've been with. But I have never in the history of my life, went to the club, and went out, met a man, went to his house and had sex with him.

I've never, ever did that. And maybe that means that I'm just boring because these women are doing that all the time. but I have never had that experience in my 34 years of living. And it's crazy that you will go out, meet, because I'm sure you went out, met a woman, and you've had sex with her that night. Yeah. Like, how does that even happen?

Like, she's just with it, and you just know? I think it's the energy. It's not every time. Like, you know, like I said, I did that to a woman I was with for years. Yeah, I know you've said that. And then, you know, it's just like, damn, it ain't like something I'm looking to do. But how do you know that it's just the energy? Because this is what I've learned.

You get with somebody who did that with you, and you may think it's because you're special. But then you find out later on, oh, this is what you do. Yeah, you do this all the time. Oh, you do this. Like, this ain't nothing new. I'm the fool. Yeah, I'm the idiot. Yeah, like, you do this for real.

Yeah. And so now, now you did it to me, motherfucker. and you went out, you met someone and I'm thinking I'm special and I'm different because, like, I'm telling you right now that's not in my wheelhouse of just things I do. Like, I cannot physically do it because I have to have a mental connection

with you to have sex with you. I really do. Like, if I can't feel that, then I can't feel that. Now, have I kissed somebody when I first met him? Absolutely. Have I felt that energy and been like, oh, my God, like a kiss, a make out, a vibe? Absolutely.

Did he, you know, I just. They were that. They were dead on the first. Did he, did he, you ain't never had somebody like, play with that? Maybe. No, I don't think so. Yes, you said, you said maybe. No, I'm just playing with you.

I really don't think that that happened. He was kissing on them, and then he was, like, rubbing on that inner thigh. An inner thigh rub for show. I think of inner thigh. I don't know. I'm going to be honest. I don't know, but I don't think so. Whatever.

I don't. You've come close on the first night. I haven't come close to. having sex on the first night ever, but I've come close to any type of sexual activity on the first night. I've come, yeah, I've come close to any type of sexual activity on the first night. Yeah, I have, I have, I have. But it hasn't been sex. Oh, well, there's no difference. We're moving on. So anyways, what? You love to do this. So, now, now, you don't want to talk about it. What was it? What was it that you did? No, I'm not blasted my, I've already blessed my business up on you.

You said you've had a sexual something. I've had in a count. But it wasn't sex. I've had an encounter. There's only two things that can happen. Not on the first night, though. You said, you just said the first night, you had a sexual encounter that wasn't in sex, but you said it was something else. What was it?

I've already said it before on the podcast. No, no, not this one. Yeah, this one. What did you do? And it went viral, and everyone still talks about it. I'm not doing this again. So anyways, back to what we're talking about. Why? Why?

I don't want to get into that. I very... You went down on them? No. Like, just get out of my business. Why are... You're, like, so my big. That's crazy.

No, I was a young girl once. Yeah, once. But I never... No, I'm just saying, you're an older lady now. You're an older lady. Anyways, why do you think that... You look cool, though, still. I am blue below me.

I look good for me. by age, like the fuck, I'm only 34. That's really not that old. That's a good number. That's not old. That's a good number, though. Yeah. That's a great number. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm only saying that because you were number 34. Yeah, I know that now. I know that enough to know that now. Let's get into that. And I'm 34 and I'm going to be 34 for a cool little minute. So guess what? You, my friend, don't have no, you can't talk.

because you will whatever I'm still 34 I'm young in my opinion I'm not young but I'm not an older lady we've said this I think that I'm not young I'm not young but I'm mature mature mature

period so why do you think that whatever why do you feel that women are attracted to men who like have bitches like joy said is it because I think you already

explain it you said you said You feel like women like that. I think it's more of the thing that the women like men that are, that they, that's theirs, that they like, all right, I know a lot of girls like him,

but he's mine now. Well, you know what, you know what, though? I don't know. Maybe it's that. He's mine now.

Aisha Curry was on call her daddy or some other podcast. I can't, no, I don't know. But I just saw this clip and she was like, you know, my man,

because he is who he, is gets a lot of attention from women and like a lot of girls and stuff like that and she was like, and it just is crazy that I don't get to have that same attention and I don't get attention like that for men. She said that. And people would like drag her for that or whatever the case is.

She said that before a few times. She said that she don't get a lot of attention. She wishes she have more attention from men and that she gets all the women's attention and it fucks her head. Well, well, this is the thing. how does she know what type of attention he gets from women? I mean, it's easy.

If you're with a man, you know what kind of attention they get from women. Like, I know. Like, you... Well, maybe he don't see it. Like, where is he at? Paul! No, no, no, listen. And listen carefully.

Like, let's say Steph gets attention from women. Okay. Like, where is he getting attention from? or girls actually coming up to him while he's with his wife or girls DM in him and she's looking at it? Yeah, I'm sure.

Off of that. It's like he's getting letters in the mail. I mean, I don't know. Where does she see the attention from the women? Because I'm sure, like, men are definitely in her DMs too. No, she says they're not. And she's complained about it multiple times.

It's tough to be in a position. Well, the thing is about being married to a high-level celebrity, you know, class A. It's like you've got to understand what comes with that. Yeah. You know, and it's not easy to deal with because as a woman, y'all love attention more than men. You know, especially a famous man. Famous men get to the point they hate the attention because it's too much to where we don't even like to go places. Yeah.

Whereas girls want to get cute and at least be like, dang, girl, you're fine and it's good. and maybe you're not messing with them, but you like to hear it. You know, you like to hear, you know, the comments on Instagram. Damn, that outfit is busing. Damn, you know, girls like to read that and hear that. Whereas, man, we don't really care.

Like, when you're at that level, you don't really care. You don't get so much attention. You're like, well, you ain't even rich. That's her point. But Cardi B. I don't call her daddy. She just said recently on her thing. She said she feels like men respect marriages more than women.

And she said that men respect marriages is because when she was married, she would be around celebrity men and they would just be like, hey, Cardi, what's up? They wouldn't be in her DMs and they wouldn't be trying to get at her. But she said that when she offset was married to her,

girls would be all over him. Because let me tell you what happens, right? Women, when they look at a man and they realize he can be a committed relationship man, they want him more, he's more desirable. Oh, he's committed to her, he's willing to marry her, He's willing to do this

He can be in a committed relationship Oh, he's more desirable I want him because I know that he can be with somebody But I don't know how it is for men Because I've never been married So I don't know how men respect the relationship or not So this goes back to our first segment When we talked about

When LeBron said there are a lot of ruthless-ass bitches Yeah Because that's the rooflessness in a girl Because they'd be looking like Oh, damn you know it was like that for me it was like certain girls that I probably liked or I wanted to holler at then when I got married

and they didn't talk to me before they was like damn okay I'm pressing him man yeah I'm like damn for real like nah because girls like the challenge to be like they want to one up a girl and they want to one up that marriage to where this is where the roofless come in

like okay I'll break this shit up you know what I'm saying it's roofless girls It's an ego shit, too. That will, like, try to get him and put him in a situation to where they get a flick with him or something in text or something to where, especially in a social media age, go here and say something. Run them pockets, homie, or almost this picture is going to go everywhere. And also, too, it's like, I notice this, too, like, if I have a man and even if I'm out somewhere and, like, girls aren't on them. And if I'm to be like, oh, that's my man, that's just going to make them want you more. like that's just how women think they're just going to make them want whoever that is way more

like it just is what it is like women don't respect that and even if a man's like oh i posted you like posting you or doing this or showing like acts of love just gets a man way more cracking like i've been with men who got way badder bitches because they were with me because they were like oh he got her and we must be doing this and he must be getting this like you wasn't even that cracking. And now you getting cracking women all on you and you're like folding off of that and it's really off the strength of you being

with me. So like it's... You're talking about you personally? Yeah, like that has happened. Like you and man it's like it's not flattering like of course you want to be loved out loud. This is after you was or before. We're going back to this shit?

No, I'm just saying. Was it after or during or when? I wasn't too 80 at that time. People don't even call me by my name now. They just be like 280. You did blah-da-da-da-da. So this was before that? This is before I was 280.

Like, God damn. So, or after. That, no, I'm just saying. So let's call your 280-ness. Let's just call that COVID. You had a COVID period. It was during COVID. Oh, that was during COVID.

So you just had a hiccup. You know, it was like, you know, you had a pre-COVID and then a COVID, and, you know, now you back. You know, so COVID, you know, was a blip in the Matrix. That's all. I can't even say what I was saying because it was a blip in the Matrix and now you're good. I can't even talk about. You don't need no mask no more. You know, you're good.

Why did I need to mask that? Because, because like that, you need to erase that. Like, COVID is like, I feel like COVID was like you need to erase that part of my life or a part of history. I don't. It was just like, because it was like so much nothing you could do. And then it was just like, damn, people went to depression. lost jobs, people died.

I think it's blip that out. I think it's fucked up that you want me to erase a part of myself. Like I was still a human being, nigga. Like, just because I was too 80 doesn't mean that I wasn't shit. Like I was a person, a breathing woman that was still on the earth, dealing with people, loving people, taking care of myself and making an impact in society.

Like, just because I was big and for any woman that's big don't mean they got to erase themselves and they're not worth living or being in the world. Like, correct yourself before I get pissed the button off on this show. Like, what you do is making the difference in society? Yes, because my energy of my spirit is always making a difference in society because I... What's the difference you was making? I'm moving on.

See, you're disrespectful, man. Like, this is crazy. You was messing up the food crisis or what, like, like, you get on my dirt. I'm so. I'm so sick of you. You was taking food out of people about that's what you're doing. I'm just messing.

I had to go back to that. Hey, we got to remind people your inspiration. You know, you're in the gym three, four times a week now. You had your blip in the Matrix, and now you're cracking. You know, share the story. It's fine to talk about it. No, because anytime I talk about it,

you want to talk about it crazy. I'm talking about, don't, I don't want to delete that part of my life. That's a part of something that happened to me. No, I didn't say delete it, but you could just, you know, chalk it up to the, you know, COVID and say that was, you know, you know. That was like an NBA would have considered that the lockout. You know, it was a down year or two. I'm so sick.

The lockout. That was during the lockout. No, my bad. But I just, you know, sometimes we've got to get back to that. Okay. Anyways. What's popping though? There's a Harvard study that say men should ejaculate 20 times for a month to reduce prostate cancer risk.

Do you think that number? What do you mean? What does ejaculate me? Come. Oh, damn. Do you think that? 21. Do you think that's a realistic?

Why did they? How did they? I don't understand how Harvard can come up with these numbers. You always talk about these. Do they just sit in a room with a dude? You know, he's just like, let me, you got to do this for 21 days, my boy. And then we'll see, you know, then we've got to do this for years now. Now you have to do it for years and we're going to sit here and monitor this.

Yeah. Come on now. Yeah, I want to know what these studies are about to because you put me on to really realizing these statistics are crazy. Yeah. But do you think to ejaculating 21 times a month is realistic? What does it mean again? To come. So that means, okay, to play.

with yourself or have a sexual encounter where you can. Is that realistic? Yeah. I mean, I'm sure it's a lot of people that do that. I'm sure it's guys that play with their self every day. Playing with yourself sounds crazy. I mean, that's, you know, you got to keep, keep the stamina. Okay.

I'm sure there's dudes that do that every day, you know. There ain't nothing wrong with that to me. So do you think while you're in a relationship, do you, like, feel like, Like, if you're jacking, playing with yourself, if anyone is playing with themselves in the relationship, the woman or the man, are you offended by that? Like, let's say your woman is playing with herself, using the vibrator on her own, like whatever,

like multiple times a week or whenever, however many times. Is that like, wow, offensive or do you not care? That's a good question. Damn The reason I ask is because in my past relationship it was like an issue of like you better not

use your vibrator or do anything on your own because that's crazy well maybe a man be like once you just save that for me you know what I'm saying and then on the flip side it could be the woman just like damn

you turn me on so much that I want to do this and I think of you. I don't know. It's a fine line between that. What is your thing? I'll rather. I don't have no real problem with that. You know, I think that if you're in a relationship

and that's what you do, I would like to be present some days you do it. All right. So you would watch? I would like to be present. Okay. Like, if your girl do that 21 days, like the study say they need to do it,

I want to be present some of them days and I just be like watching the movie. like watching a movie just that's not a that's wild for a woman that's uncomfortable if you're not like getting into it too then you're just watching a movie and I'm just watching the movie I'm relaxed I'm over here looking and you're just that's like yeah I'm watching that control that feels so crazy you have to be like I have done that to where I'm gonna be over here no it's awkward like as a woman trust me What you want me to do?

You want a man to, like, be like, ooh, something. Like, you got to have, like, that's fun if a man is like... You want a man, you want the sound effects from him? Yeah, like a sound effect, a rub, a touch, a look in the eye. I want you to do what you do when I'm not around so I can see what you do. Yeah, you can still see. You can still use your eyes and interact. I know, but you ain't do...

If I'm not there, how are you getting off? Why, you don't need me to do that now? No, you don't have to do that But I'm saying like you like as a woman You would want your man To like at least not just be like I'm watching a movie And then she's like

That is wild He's watching the movie But you're watching the movie But he's going to be like Okay yeah, okay yeah Because then you get in your head And you're like a lot of women Don't come because they're in their head

That's like the number one reason And then it's like For me If my man is right there and I'm doing that Like I want him to be like are you turned on like is it giving like what it needs to give like i don't want to be in my head thinking that so he has to be reverse it now so like because if i'm in my mode to where i'm going yeah you know i'm getting myself going yeah i don't need you to be doing all of that shut up

be quiet you used to get to talk and doing all that uh shut up you're messing on my concentration so you just want someone to be watching the movie i don't care what you doing just don't say nothing let me because i'm so saying something is going to turn you on. Your woman saying something while you're doing that is turning you off. It's crazy. Why? Like, what if she's like, ooh, I love that.

That's, be quiet. You're turned off by that. Like, what if she's like, oh, yes, daddy. Shut up. I got this. What? I got this. I think that's crazy.

I think that it is like for me, watching a man do that is a turn on for me. And I feel like it could be a turn on the vice versa, but I can't have a man. So what you're going to be doing if he's sitting there doing that? What you're going to be like, oh, yeah. I like that, actually. And I've, yeah, I feel like you don't have to say anything, but it's just the act of just like, I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying, and I don't know if I'm saying anything or not.

Like, I might, but I don't know. If he's in there, you and your man laying in a bed, you're like, yeah, I just feel like, like, stroking myself right now. I'm like, damn, you know what I'm saying? Don't do nothing. baby just, you know, just, you know, just lay there. I'm going to just, you know, rub on you with this hand. And on the other hand, I'm going to get myself going.

You don't have to say nothing. But what about moaning? Like, okay, I'm getting turned on. I'm moaning. I'm, oh, yes. Like, is that blowing you? Like, that's turning you off? I don't know.

Because what? Like, you just want someone to just sit there quiet and watch you? Most men is, like, going. gonna be just like, I don't know, maybe closing their eyes and just picturing him and his girl just like if they're doing that. But what if she's right there? Why not just look at each other? Like, you know what I'm saying? And also for women, I feel like men, I feel like men. Why don't the girl do it? But I feel like, you know why it's good for the man to do it? Because I think that when a woman watches a man do it, it's like, show me how you do it to yourself. So then when I'm in there doing different items, like I know your motion.

I know your rhythm. So that's how like I've learned. Like you can learn like, oh, I know what you are on. Like, and then you make a mental note. And you're like, oh, okay. Like, just like you said, what would you do if I wasn't like the person wasn't right there? Like you have to. What's your performance?

preferred toy of choice. Lord, this is getting a little too extra. I would say that, I mean, we did have a whole sex toy box here, so it's going to be all right. I would say that I'm a clitoral stimulation person. So for me, my toy that I use is for the clitoris, and you vibrate on there, and then boom, I'm going to come. Okay, so the question is.

Yeah. What's your toy of choice? That's what it is. It's a clit toy. That's what it's called. So if I go into the store, it's like, give me the clit toy.

So I don't know what it's gone. It's a vibrator. It's not the- The girls like the massage, the massage thing with the ball with the top. No. No, most girls don't like that. But your mom,

you pretended it was a back scratcher. Like, okay, it really was vibrator. So now it's the rose that just came out a few years ago. Now, I don't do the rose, though. But it's like, I do this joy. It's called it. So it's like this. It has a hole like this.

And it's like rubber. And you put your clit in the little thing, in the little hole. How big is the clip? God damn. That's a D at that point. If you could put it in the, if you got a. The clit gets swollen, right? But I'm saying.

So when you turn on, it gets hard and swollen. The click. Yeah, it does. That's crazy. How big is the clip? It doesn't have to be huge. You put it over. That's wild.

You don't have to have a big clit to do that. You literally, I don't, you don't have to have that. And then you could just put on. That might be something else. No, it's not. It's really not. You literally, it's the same concept as the Rose. The Rose is just like, I think, like a tongue.

But this has been my favorite toy for a long time. And you just, and I don't use it like that. I probably haven't used it in a minute. But like, it is a thing. And it's like a little hole. And I think it's like a little. thing in there, a rubber thing, and you put... I wonder how that one toy feel, that one, that for the men, that got...

Yeah, yeah, I always wondered that a little bulb with the flesh in there. You wanted how that feel, too? For a man, like, is that cracking? I don't know, I ain't ever... I ain't ever... I've always wondered if that was cracking for a man, but, like, if I walked in and my man was using that, I don't know how I would feel. If you walked in, he was a middle of it, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, who hell, yeah, damn!

God damn! And you walked in, he just making sound effects, what you're doing? Woo! I mean, and you can't. He's like, damn. It would just be like, damn, you don't even do all that. But we have. Like, this is crazy.

Like, this is fire. Yeah, that's too much. Because now you're addicted to that more than you would have sex with me, and I don't like that. Because it's like, this is giving a lot. And I don't really love that. And then, like, it's just doing too much. I'm not going to be mad or whatever. But I just feel like, damn, like even me, it's like,

Like, I don't mind if a man does that in a relationship and does his own thing. Like, do that, get your shit off. But sometimes you be like, we'll save it for me. What if you walk in and he got the sex dog? No, I'm not, I'm not doing that. That's cheating? It's not cheating. It's weird.

But I'm just saying, if you walk in, what's going to happen? It's not cheating. Y'all going to be arguing? It's not arguing. You're going to break up? You're just weird. So, y'all, what's so what? You just going to call him weird?

I have to think like you're strange, and I'm going to have to accept that. Like, baby, it's been, you've been out of town. For three days. Like, no, it's not that... It's not that serious. The sex doll is blowing. The sex doll is blowing me. I don't want to do nothing with a sex doll, in my opinion.

I think if a man has that, you're out of control. Like, you are that. But what if a man is like, I'm a nymphal... Like, I have a friend who's married, and he is like... He has to have sex all the time. So, like, he'll be like, oh, my God, I had sex with all these women in one day. like people have an addiction so like maybe those type of people need a little sex tall like need a little doll that they could just get it off you know what I'm saying

anyways that was really after dark we got to move on from that for a second do you think do but this is um on like brand do you think that sex can actually save a relationship that's falling apart damn wait can sex save a relationship well if the relationship who that don't make sense you know how like

when people are fighting and they have makeup sex and stuff and like they use sex to kind of band-aid I think yeah but what are they falling apart it depends on what you falling apart from I mean let's just say you guys are just

arguing all the time and then you're like okay I'm gonna use sex like every time we argue I'm just bending down to my knees and I'm getting cracking well it shouldn't get to that point you should have been doing that to keep them from the breakup moment I'm saying but what if it's like other stuff

and you guys are just going through stuff like financial problems yeah like whatever you know yeah kids right like things I think sex makes it lasts longer than it need to

because the issue still didn't go away that's real You know, maybe it just extended the stay. That's real. But it's not ultimately going to solve the problem. Yeah. If there's an issue outside of sex.

Yeah. You know, so. And then you got some guys and some girls that's just like, damn, I really hate this dude or I really won't ever be with them, but I will have sex with them or her. Like, and, but he's like, it'd be dudes and girls so sprung on the sex, and that's it. You know, the values go out. You know, they have a whole other man, but they like having sex with their ex.

Yeah. And you know who does that a lot? Baby mom and baby dads. Yeah. Because they're like, we would never be together. We don't work. But I love the sex because it's this. It's toxic.

It's passion. It's giving. Yeah. That's what people do a lot in that baby daddy, baby mom. situation and that's what you'd be having to look out for because it's like it's familiar you guys already know each other's bodies you know what's going on and then you're just like okay cool like I'm gonna run that and to me it's like if you me I'm tell you right now if I'm having sex with anybody else I don't fuck with the person I'm with because when I'm with someone I'm very

into that person I'm very like this is my person I'm thirsty for them I'm like on them. If I'm like doing that, that means, like, I'm not, like, I can't have a sexual connection with someone that I don't fuck with. Like, I just don't. And to me, like, I never had sex with an ex on some like, oh, we're just going to become fuck buddies now because we like the sex. Because I don't like the sex as soon as I don't like you. That shit is out the window for me. I don't want to see you. I don't want to look at you. I'm very cut dry. If I'm fucking with you, I'm rocking with you. If I'm not, I'm done. I'm very cutting dry. I'm blocking you.

But you never had a situation to where you got somebody you got to deal with. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, the baby mama, baby daddy thing. I never had that. And that's the difference. And I do think, if I did have that situation, I really do think, though, that I would be very cut and dry. Like, I would be very clean, like.

Yeah, you got to be cutting dry. Yeah, I'm very cut and dry. Everything's got to just be about. The children. Don't hit me up about nothing. other than the kids don't be calling my phone don't be texting me little slick shit like we should not be talking about nothing and i know that i would be that way because i'm very much like that like if i'm with you in a relationship that means i'm really locked in and you really got me

let me ask you something yeah like is it what's the limit like shit uh all right so say like a ex yeah baby dad let's say baby kid baby daddy or baby mama do you get presents for their birthday

and Christmas and Valentine's and stuff like that for Valentine's Day you're going to get a gift to your baby moms or baby dads are you mind gone okay so what about Christmas

no I'm getting gifts for the kids we are not getting gifts for each other that's out and let me tell you this. Another thing that I always say is like there's things that could be forgiven in a relationship. I think one thing that I couldn't forgive in a relationship is someone cheating with their baby mom, their baby like or, yeah, the mother of their child because that's not going to ever be, I'll never feel safe because it's right there and it's always

going to be right there. So if you cheated on that, then this over for me. Like, because I can't ever get past that honestly. Because now I know you have to see this person, you have to deal with this person you have to go around this person and how do I know that you're not doing that like I'll never feel safe that's one thing like I always say like I'll forgive a lot of stuff that's one thing I know that I won't forgive and I think crossing that line is like why are y'all buying each other gifts you should be getting gifts for the children period point blank and if the children are old enough to get their own gifts if you're with another girl period okay that's weird to me like it's period like I don't think it's just about

See, people have to stop. But, like, say you're single. It doesn't matter. Why are you not setting the boundary when you're single or when you're in a relationship? Why are you crossing that weird line, whether I'm single or I'm not? Well, there's no line if you're single. Yeah, there's a line within the boundaries of what you set with the person you're with, your baby mom or your baby dad.

It is a boundary. I'm setting boundaries with them whether I'm single or in a relationship. Well, I can speak on this because I did this for a lot of years. You know, I like God gives for the. mama so the kids can see that need just being nice. I get that and I respect that. You know what I'm saying? But I don't fuck with that.

You don't want to like dog them. Like, because the kids see it. Yeah, but you don't have to dog them out. But it ain't got to be nothing major. It ain't got to be a major gift. I think you get them a gift. It could be something like. I think you get them.

For example, it would be like some sandals or some shit. That's crazy. I would never. And if I was with somebody who did that, I would be cool. and honestly too I get Mother's Day

like some flowers or something like a card so what's the difference because that's respecting the fact that that's the mother like cool I fuck with you you're a cool mom so flowers is cool for Christmas I don't think you should be getting gifts for people and I think that if I'm with someone who's buying

their baby mom's sandals like that's blowing sandals it's like 30 bucks I don't give a fuck I think that that's blowing it and I think that with too much many people do is they wait until they get into a relationship to set a boundary and then the woman is like even more upset now

oh you got in this relationship now you switched up now you have this no no no honey we have boundary set before I'm in a relationship like my ass. Can you text? How about a text? Is it about the kid? No I'm saying what if he liked happy birthday? Yeah I mean that's crazy yeah that's crazy I think that's fine

that's blowing me if you can't text happy birthday Merry Christmas that's just too strict you could be cordial you can have fucking friendship or not a friendship but But, like, y'all are cool. But I think that you have to respect the things. Like, my ex, he was super bounderied up with his baby mom before I even was with him.

When I got with him, it was an introduction of, like, this is my girl. She's going to be around our daughter. This is the daughter. Hey, this is someone that I love. I'm going to be around. Like, it was so transparent. It was so comfortable.

I never worried about nothing. And it was very cut and dry. This is it. Like, boom, boom, boom. There's no nothing. And I felt very cool in that situation. when it came to that. But I feel like some people, they blur the lines

and they don't set that boundary ahead of time. So a woman is pissed. Because I'm going to be pissed. Like, damn, you got with this girl now I can't get no sandals. Like, I'm going to say my little slick shit. Like, where are my sandals now? Oh, she's a hater. Now I can't get my shit.

Like, no, you shouldn't have been getting nothing because this is not that type of relationship. This is for the children, set a boundary. If the kid is very tiny and it's the birthday, I will get a gift on behalf of the kid for the mom or for the dad but all that other shit is blowing me and I'm just saying you gotta say

boundaries to people because they will cross a line for show and next episode you all having sex anyways that was a great episode I feel like we did our big one there was more stuff to discuss but we'll have to cover it next time because we'd be chopping man we've been having some good little conversations

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