Club Shay Shay - Listen Again: Mo'Nique

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

Mo'Nique joins Shannon Sharpe at Club Shay Shay for a candid and uproarious conversation. First, Mo'Nique delves into the heated moment when Skip Bayless told Shannon to "put his glasses back on," setting the tone with her bluntness and brutal honesty for a rollercoaster of an episode. Then, Mo'Nique shares poignant memories of her upbringing in Baltimore, drawing inspiration from the Jackson 5 and seeing a young Oprah’s local daytime TV show. The revelations keep coming as she discusses Katt Williams' Club Shay Shay appearance, shedding light on the nature of truths that the public finds surprising. Mo'Nique then explains why the public's response to her actions differed significantly from the reception Taraji P. Henson received when they both voiced their concerns about Hollywood’s financial disparities. Mo'Nique fearlessly confronts the industry challenges she's faced, including the complex dynamics with heavyweights like Oprah, Tyler Perry, and Kevin Hart. Amidst stories of her undeniable talent, Mo'Nique reveals hilarious anecdotes like being the "best Popeyes drive-through worker of all time" and how her comedy career was sparked by a dare from her brother. She shares uproarious tales from her experiences on the road with The Queens of Comedy and The Kings of Comedy. Mo'Nique offers an insider's perspective of those legendary tours with her signature humor and charm. With raw honesty, she recounts deeply personal experiences, from confronting her past family trauma to the tumultuous journey of settling her lawsuit with Netflix. Mo'Nique weighs in on Shaq's assertion that men shouldn't open up emotionally to women. Known for her unapologetic and insightful perspective, Mo'Nique delves into the nuances of gender dynamics, challenging societal norms with her trademark humor and wisdom. This episode is a rollercoaster of emotions, unfiltered truths, and, of course, hearty laughs. Don't miss the wisdom, wit, and wild tales shared by the legendary Mo'Nique on Club Shay Shay. #volume  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that's stopping by for conversation on a drink today is one of the best loved comedians. She's one of the most decorated actors. She won an Oscar, a Golden Globe. She's a British Academy Film, Theater and Arts Award. She's a Scripps Howard Guild winner, NAACP Image Award winner. She's been nominated for a Primetime Emmy and a Grammy.

She's a talented host, executive producer, writer and an author, a versatile entertainer, a famed Hollywood star, a powerful name in the industry, a veteran standup comedian, a mother, a wife, a legend, the one, the only Monique. Wow. Wow. No one does that better, baby.

Do it again. Sing all that again, baby. Oh. Hello, welcome to another episode of Cut Club. Shea Shea, I am your host, Shana Shaw. Come on now, put them damn cards down and read all that again. Oh brother, thank you.

Thank you. Can we stop by, I wanna toast you for your amazing, amazing career. Not only in front of the camera, but behind the camera and your standup career. Monique, thanks for stopping by today. Thank you for having me brother Shaysha thank you but it drinks a water okay whoo yes indeed let me just say this before we start yeah

this right here yeah I'm gonna talk right to the sisters once it gets you right there. Now I'm back to you Shay, I'm back to you baby. That's enough for me baby. But oh sisters, if you're trying to make up with your man, if you're trying to get pregnant, this right here is Shannon's shop. One sip, take care of all your woes. Whoo baby, that thing right there, okay. Mollie, when you hear everything that I read on the card, what goes through your mind when you hear everything that I read on the card what goes through your mind when you hear that

What goes through my mind when I hear you read that I'm humbled by that I'm grateful for that I've been allowed to share a gift because that's what it is But when you start reading that there's a part that says who is he talking about and there's another part that says I'm grateful that I was able to put that work in to achieve those things but all with humility You said you want we were talking about camera you said I want to get something there's something I want to share with you And I need to get it off my chest early because that's why I'm looking at you now Why you going into that because I told you we could not talk till I dealt with you. Okay, listen, okay So let me say this to you

The day I watched skip bales, okay lose himself with you and that's what he did. He lost himself And when I watched skip bales say to you Put them goddamn glasses back on boy you, put them goddamn glasses back on, boy. Now, I know he didn't say goddamn him, boy, but that's what everybody heard. And I was waiting for you to snatch his ass across that table, baby, and give it to him. I was like, Shannon, this is the perfect time. I don't condone violence. Right. I don't say be violent. But that day, I was in my feelings for two days. Me and my grandbaby

could not watch you for two days. and my husband had to say, mama, let's talk about this. Look at Shannon Shaw. He retired in 2004, but he could still get on that feeling, run touchdowns, tackles, everything. Had he snatched, skipped bailers across that table, he would have died in Shannon's arms that day. Right.

So brother Shayshae handled that right. Now we can talk. Okay? I just had to get that off of me because I know everybody around the world heard what arms that day. Right. So brother Shayshae handled that right. Now we can talk. Okay. I just had to get that off of me because I know everybody around the world heard what I heard. No, he didn't say them words, but we heard it in his mind and we was looking for you to say space and opportunities, skip space and opportunity. That's that. That's that be more coming out of you. You know what? That's your aunt Mary coming out of me. That's your Aunt Mary coming out of me, baby. I got an aunt named Mary now.

Monique, you and her are a spitting image. I remember the very first time I saw you and my sister and I, we were talking and my sister looked at me and I looked at her. I said, she's a spitting image of my Aunt Mary. And you are, you are hopefully we gonna put pictures up when we run this. So you're from Baltimore and I read everything that I read when you were growing up in Baltimore

what did a young Monique want to be? Just what I'm doing right now baby. You dreamed of this? Just when I tell you Shannon from a little girl I always wanted to be famous because I saw the Jackson 5 and I saw people screaming for them and how and I'm like damn it I want him to scream and holler for me, but I couldn't sing right, but I knew somewhere I was gonna be famous right so I prayed to the universe just let me be famous I didn't understand what all came with that As a little girl, right you just see the lights the, the glitz, and you fall in love with that. So that little girl fell in love with the lights, the glamour, and the glitz. That little girl fell

in love with a woman named Oprah Winfrey on a local talk show in Baltimore called People Are Talking. And when I looked at that woman, Shannon, I saw me, I saw a big woman with a big head, big shoulders and big feet. And I said, if that woman can do that, so can I. So that's what that little girl was thinking about from Baltimore. Are you the type of person that if you see someone do something one time, that means it can be done again? Cause you saw Oprah do it. You say, well, Oprah do it.

And why can't Monique do it? I think Oprah, when I saw her do it as a little girl, was a push. However, had I not seen Oprah, my dreams would have still been my dreams. But when you see somebody that's inside of that space, because how many big black women are on TV even now? So back then, you didn't see any big black women on TV that was doing it. So I think had I not seen her, I would have still wanted to do it. But seeing her, let me say, okay, it's possible. It's right there.

Right. What was Monique like as a little girl? What you're seeing right now, baby. Listen, let me tell you something. A lot of people in this industry don't like me. Right? They didn't like me as a little girl, Shannon. I'm so listen. Let me tell you something a lot of people in this industry don't like me, right? Yeah, they didn't like me as a little girl Shannon. I'm so used to this shit People didn't like me cuz I was gonna tell it I'm going to tell I'm going to tell on you So what you're saying right now is the same thing you're getting they tried to fight my ass in the 12th grade

She had and they surrounded me a group of them. Okay wanted to fight on me Why because I told the truth What you do I told I told Andre that that was not Lamar's baby That's what low value Joe, please. Let me tell wait a minute sugar. You're gonna calm yourself down Let me tell you something, okay, okay You better back that up, Shannon! Let me tell you something. Okay. Okay?

I'm a person for right. Right. Right? And if you tell me something and you say, Monique, I've done something to somebody, but don't say nothing. Shannon, I'm going to need you to fix that. Because if you don't fix it, I'm going to have to tell that because it's wrong. So when she tells me this is not his baby, but I'm going to tell him it's his

baby. I can't let you do that. That's not right. So what I stand for is right. And I think where we run into a problem in our community, in our group, we get so caught in, well, that's not your place, but you see wrong happening, right? So when you see wrong happening, what you do? Do you just stand back and say, that ain't my business? Or do you do do you just stand back and say that ain't my business or do you look and say well I knew that when his baby now the baby 21 years old he's trying to find his father mm-hmm what you gonna do I'm asking you what you gonna do well honestly Mo Nick if somebody say well Shannon I'm gonna tell you something and I'm gonna tell you this in confidentiality and I don't want to go any further than me you in this table yes it stays with me him in the table let me say this because I'm going to tell you something and I'm going to tell you this in confidentiality and I don't want to go any further than me.

You and this table. Yes. It stays with me. Him and the table. Well, let me say this because I'm going to go back and forth with your head. Okay. I would say before you tell me, did you hurt somebody? Okay.

Yes. Before you tell me, is this something that would make me question your character? Before you tell me, you got to be clear about what you get ready to tell me. Because if you're getting ready to tell me something and gotta be clear about what you're gonna tell me. Because if you're gonna tell me something and I know that you've done something wrong, I know that you're wrong and I not say anything, that's why people are allowed to keep harming people for years to come.

See Harvey Weinstein? Yes. Well, there's a lot of people that knew what was happening. But it felt it wasn't their place. It wasn't their place. It wasn't their place. Right, until it becomes you. So I think the moment we get into a space, But it felt it wasn't their place. It wasn't their place. It wasn't their place. Right. Until it becomes you.

So I think the moment we get into a space, and I was in the 11th grade at the time, okay, but when we get into a space where we say, listen, if I know you're doing wrong and I take a position that's not my place, eventually you will succumb to what you support. What was your relationship with the young lady that told you this in confidentiality? I'm not gonna focus on, I was in 11th grade, now I'm 56, but when she told me, I told her, I'm going to tell. See, I'm that.

I'm going to tell him what you said, so we clear. I'm going to tell him what you said, because that's not right. Oh my goodness Mo. See I think that's the problem that we're dealing with right now Shannon. Okay. When we know something is wrong everything cat Williams said here and said right we all know it to be the truth however we get so caught up in well I ain't gonna say nothing. Right. Well can you believe he said it? Well, can you what is the messenger?

It's the messenger baby we get so caught up in the messenger that will overlook the message People have a hard time hearing a five foot five giant Tell the truth people have a hard time with a black woman over 200 pounds truth. People have a hard time with a black woman over 200 pounds, tell the truth. Because people that look like us, we should just be grateful we got invited to the party. We should just be grateful that someone paid us attention. I've dealt with that my whole life. I've dealt with that. So when you get to a space where you say, listen, I want to be free. I want to be free. I don't want to walk around intimidated, scared, fearful. What might happen? What's that going to happen? What's what they're going to say? What they're going to do if it's your story and it's the truth,

tell it because what you can do is be in a position to prevent it happening to someone else over and over and over again. So if I go back to the 11th grade with that sister who's no longer with us, rest her with that sister, I would do that again. Because if you tell me something and we know it's wrong, but you're going to pin that on somebody else. Is that right? No, all right, and what would your aunt Mary do? Bambodega, I swear. You're not answering my question. What would your aunt Mary do? Well, she don't tell it cuz you go tell anything anyway

But that's why you love our Mary. Because Aunt Mary kept it in check. Even though you didn't want to tell her, she was going to tell that baby, you know that's not your daddy. We're not going to play like that. You love Aunt Mary. I do. The uniqueness of your name, M-O hyphen, most of the time Monique is a singular.

It's not M-O hyphen. What was that like? Because people say, oh, you're trying to be different? You're trying to be boozy You know good. Well, you spell your name Monique like everybody else But I'm gonna need I do that's my stage name when I'm not on stage My name is mo and IQ you eat when I'm on stage is mo the little hyphen and IQ you eat That's just entertaining. Did you not did you ever think about changing it to the hyphen? No That's just entertainment. Did you ever think about changing it to the hyphen?

No. On stage is one person. Off stage is somebody different. And sometimes we get the two mixed up. Right. On stage, I am an entertainer. Right. Off stage, I'm a wife.

I'm a mommy. I'm a friend. I'm a sister. I'm these different people. But I keep that stage on the stage. How much of stage is actually money That's good All of the state is Monique

But there are certain things Monique's gonna say on stage that she wouldn't say off the stage There are certain things on that stage, you know, there have been people to say oh she cuts so much oh I'm a performer I'm an entertainer and I'm on stage but no one will ever find an interview of me doing what I do on stage in an interview like I'm having with you it's two different things right what type of student was Monique I read that you were in I don't know if this is the correct way, but you were in the class that the slower one. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. You are. You had a baby now. I want you to spell it out. How about this here? Hey, you got two laps. You had two recesses. Okay stayed in the same classroom. Okay, but I did not wear a helmet. Okay, okay, okay. Now, since you want to go there, I did not have to wear that helmet, baby.

So, yes. Mon, as I sit here with you today, you didn't all of a sudden become this advanced. Why were you in that class? I'm not going to play with you, Shannon. Okay, some of them damn words Kat was using, I was like, what? I said, oh, he's talking to Tom. I'm not gonna play with you Shannon. Okay, some of them damn words cat was using I was like what You know, I never connected with school Because I always felt like it wasn't adding up So when you're trying to teach me about the Boston Tea Party, but people that look like me is at the bottom of the boat

I can't connect to what you saying. I never connected to because I always felt like something was off. What they were teaching me about history. We were always the savages and we were always the bad people. And then you saw these white people be all the heroes. And as a little girl, I said, something's not adding up. So I don't look at that as a bad thing. I just didn't connect with it. It made no sense to me. So you never had a problem with the learning, but the disconnect was what they were teaching and what you actually saw. You're like, what you're teaching me is not what I actually see.

You know what, Shannon, it's a combination. It was a combination. I wasn't grasping it and I didn't believe it. So it's a combination and when you have a child that is full of energy and is sitting in a classroom that is closed in all day long and you're trying to tell me all that I'm not, it just did not add up to me. It just did not make sense to me. So there's no shame to when people say was you in the SO class? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we call it. So when you... Hey, baby, we call it. But don't overlook what you don't think is the package supposed to be. Right. See, again, we come back to the messenger. Nobody thought that I would be, and I'll go to my family, Like nobody thought, not the fat one, she's not gonna be the one, not her.

So I've been used to people doubting and counting me out. And for me as that little girl, it's like one day, one day, one day. And that one day is right here. Even your family. So how was your family? How was your brothers and sisters? Because I mean, look, we, Joe, I mean, I got, bro, I got a brother and sister and, you know,

we joke with each other. And I can imagine if the situation were, if one of us was in those class, oh, we gonna, we gonna get them jokes off. I'm just, it is what it is. No one paid enough attention. Really? Like no one paid enough attention because though we lived in a household together we were very individual. So no one even paid attention to what was really going on and to include my parents. And that's not a victim story, that's not oh what was me, it's just what it was. So it wasn't like oh you dummy, the jokes were always fat. They were always fat jokes. You dummy. The jokes were always fat. They were always fat jokes.

What? Okay. So I'm so used to that. But it was- Are you the only one in your family this day? Baby, the only one that sneaks snacks. I'm the only one that'll sneak them damn snacks, Shannon. I'm the only one, yes.

So how would, so what would you say your relationship then and now was with your family? Well, my relationship now with my family, they're my biological family and I wish them well. I know. Here's the thing, I watched you do in, I think it was like a little clip and they were talking about interracial dating.

Yes. And you said, why would somebody stay where they're miserable, right? That applies everywhere Shannon It just doesn't apply to that especially in our community. We've been taught take care of your family Make sure well, there's some families that deserve it and there are some families that you have to say listen I'm so glad we had this time together and that's it. That's where I am with mine I wish all of them the best, but that's what it is.

So even as I sit here with you now with all the school in Hollywood and all of the stuff I had to go through, I've already been through it with people that you call your family. And I have to say, you know what, that has to just wash off when I know what I'm standing in and what I'm standing on. You're absolutely right, Monique. My grandmother used to always tell us, she'd say, son, teeth and tongue may fall out, but family never should. And she stood on that.

No matter what transpired in the family, no matter how bad someone had treated you, you should never fall out. But hearing you say that that's different because just because we're blood, that doesn't mean we're family. We're family through blood. But sometimes it's somebody on the outside that's not blood that's actually closer than the actual biological. We've been taught to say trauma is okay. We've been taught to say you mistreated me, you abused me, you violated me, you disrespected me, you belittled me, but I'm supposed to look at you at Thanksgiving and say, how you doing, Unc? That's what we've been taught. You swallow

that pain. That's why people have such a problem with Cat Williams. People have a problem with people that says, I'm going to tell the truth. I'm going to tell the truth. And that causes the truth. I'm going to tell the truth." And that causes a ruckus and you would say, why are people upset with the truth? When you hear Steve Harvey say, there are repercussions when you tell the truth. Well, remember when we were children, what would your grandmother tell you? Tell the truth. Tell the truth because if not, there will be what? Repercussions. Well, nails got turned around. When you tell the truth, there'll be repercussions. So what's the opposite of

that? Should I tell a lie and get a reward? So that's how we're rolling right now. That's how we're dealing with one another right now. So when it comes to family and people said, Oh Monique, how could you listen? I want to live the rest of this journey that I have in peace. I want to be with my family and love my man. He in love with me. We watch our babies grow and develop their own families. I don't need anything in the midst of that because you family that I should accept that trauma. I should accept you not taking accountability for what you've done, what you've said, and we just washed the slate.

That's why we're in the position we are now as a community. As a black community, as a community in entertainment, everybody's been so afraid to say, look what they did to me. Look what they said. And it's like, oh well, listen now, we don't wanna ruffle no feathers, especially if the messenger doesn't fit what people should think the messenger

is supposed to look like. And we keep repeating history, Shannon. Is it a situation Monique, where people look and say, well, you made it thus far, well, it couldn't have been that bad, because if it has been as bad as you it a situation Monique where people look and say, well you made it thus far, well it couldn't have been that bad. Because if it has been as bad as you said it was Monique, how would you have ever gotten out of Be More? How would you have ever gotten into Hollywood?

How would you ever have a talk show? How would you ever be on a sitcom? So how is it that bad Monique and you end up like this? You know when you first got in the NFL? Yes ma'am. Your eyes were like this. Yes. And it was, oh I made it, I'm here. And then after you first got in the NFL? Yes, man. Your eyes were like this. Yes, and it was all I made it

I'm here and then after you start getting in it and you started seeing things and you started feeling things and you start now Your eyes start getting a little closer because now you're understanding what the business is So when you first walk through the door, you're walking through the door saying come on, baby Oh, this is all I've ever prayed for. And when my baby, Cat Williams sat here and said, no one's ever gone out to LA and got a sitcom like that. I was in LA for three months and here comes a show called the Parkers. And there we go from there. So I think that when people say if it was so bad, you mature, you begin to understand what you're dealing with. You begin to understand what you're in the midst of. And once you understand it is when you can speak on it but before you really know what

you're looking at how do you speak on that right because when you first walk in the door of hollywood you have everybody telling you oh my goodness you're going to be amazing oh my goodness this is going to be incredible well that's all you know that is all you know. Yes, but you're so happy to be here. Yes, and you like, okay When you when I listen to your story, mm-hmm you say dirt poor. Yes Bad from outside. Yes, it was we had to make it work However, we can make it work correct and then you get that first big check Yes, and you think the people that gave it to you was awesome Because they gave it to you and it's more money than you've ever seen before until you find out

This ain't the right money. This ain't the right amount. Wait a minute if they got this Why am I getting this then you start putting the pieces together and you start saying it's not right and I'm going to speak about it See when I saw Taraji broken on those platforms, it was painful to watch. However, Taraji and I had a conversation over a decade ago in my trailer when I was doing the Monique Show. And she said, you know, you got to keep on getting it until your turn come. And I said to Raji, most of us die before our turn

comes. We got to ask for it right now. Now I understand that because there was a time I felt the same way because that's what I was told. You just keep going and we'll get them the next time. We'll get them the next time. We'll get them the next time. And the next time never comes. And then you see our sister broken, sitting on those platforms. Now when I said it, when I said it. Why didn't they get the traction when you said it,

that when she said it, now all of a sudden everybody's coming. And I don't have a problem. I'm glad. But if you said this a decade ago, and I remember you saying it over a decade ago, why didn't they get the traction? Why didn't they get the support? Why wasn't it propped up when Monique said it?

I think there's a few reasons why. Number one, it was the messenger. I should just be grateful I got invited to the party. You a big fat black woman How dare you be the one and then on top of that you're saying names You're saying Oprah's name out loud. You're saying Tyler's name out loud. You're saying Lee's name out loud You're saying Lionsgate out loud. That's not what we do. We say they we say the people we say the studio We say the producers how dare people we say the studio we say the producers

How dare you actually say our heroes names your bare specific? These are our heroes How could you say their names out loud? Because they're the ones that did it and if I don't say it out loud Now you see a woman that is swallowing that pain that is so Now you see a woman that is swallowing that pain, that is so stressed out, then you see our sister Taraji be hens and sit on that platform. And I love that baby, because she's a beautiful spirit. But to see her that broken, what our community was saying was, we have a hard time, some of us, we have a hard time seeing a strong black woman with a back straight and a chin up and a strong

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Hope you could join us for the postseason run. But we can accept seeing a black woman broken. Now it's really serious because she's falling apart. Our community had a hard time with those two things. And when I would hear people say, why is her husband there? Why is he there? It's a sad day when we're questioning why a black man was staying with his black woman. So when you hear black women saying we're the most undervalued, disrespected, underserved,

mistreated, violated, exploited, we get all of that. Then you see a black man standing with his black woman saying, not on my watch. And you hear some black men saying, why, why her husband gotta be there? We're in a sad state of affairs when we begin to question black love and black unity. So they didn't wanna hear me, some of them, because of what I look like,

because I spoke about their heroes, and because they saw that man standing right there strong. Did they question the validity, because we had never seen this before, not so public, not so present. Yes. Did they question you and his relationship? Me and my husband?

Yes. When you say question, what is it? What is it like? Cause they did, but I want to understand what you mean. Because, okay, did they think that was your husband or what was he your manager? Because he's been everything. He's your lover, he's your manager.

He's your confidant. Name him. He's your, he's the father. Come on, a name. I'm he's he's your father. Name him whatever it is. He's all-encompassing. Yes. He's a toolbox with all the tools that Monique needs. All of them. And so when I heard people saying that why is he there? Why does he have to be in every interview? Why does he have to be in the background? Why can't Monique do that? Why not? Why not? Why not and that when you see and these are my sisters But when you see Taraji when you see Viola when you see our sisters speaking out

You'd never see their representation sitting right there with them. You never see them saying listen We got a fight together. My husband is also my manager, which is my representation. But again, we've been so beat down that some of us have a problem with this black man saying, I'm standing right here strong, and I will not flinch and I will not budge. What a sad state of affairs we are now in, where you have people that look like you and I that would question why this man is standing there. That for the life of me is disheartening. When we heard Brother Malcolm say, we've been run amok, we've been hoodwinked, we're now doing it to ourselves.

We're now doing it to ourselves. So when you say Monique, it was different, because we had never seen that before. You said their names. Let me say this, I'm not the first one. Right. I'm not the first one. But we get washed away in history so easily that we start thinking, oh, this the first one, this is the first one. Her name is Claudette Colvin. And she's not the first one, but she was before Rosa Parks. But because Claudette Coven did not fit the picture that they thought she should look like, she was dark skinned and she had coarse hair.

And because the organization, I believe it was the NAACP, did not think she would be accepted I believe it was the NAACP did not think she would be accepted by the white people. They had to get somebody that they said the white people could accept. We keep repeating the same thing because what I said is no different than what anyone else is saying. Not at all. It was the messenger and it was the way that I'm not putting my head down. I'm not shedding one tear. I'm not going to say, I don't want to say their name because I might get in trouble.

I'm going to say all of it. Right. Because when you really think about that little girl coming behind you, what I don't ever want that baby to see is me broken. I don't want her to see me falling apart. And I understand it. I understand how it can happen, Shannon, when you may not have a foundation at home, when you may not have that man at home or that woman at home, whomever, that support person

saying you're not crazy. I got you. Come on. We're gonna go do this. We're gonna get through this. So for us, if we start taking things for what they are and get out of our emotions, we will be so far along. Do you believe punishment? Punishment is not only meant for the perpetrator, but it's also to deter others from said acts. You see it. Do you believe the punishment that was bestowed upon Monique

was not only to punish you, but to deter others from saying what you said? Well, Shannon, see here, and I'm gonna answer that, but sometimes we act like we don't know our history. See, back in the day when they had us in chains, they would beat one real good. Right. But in front of the others. In front of the others and they let everybody know what you don't want is that type of ass

whooping. So what they said was we're going to beat Monique really good. We're going to sit her down. And I made it public. Financially, my family took a hit, Shannon. And when I tell you, we took a hit, we took a hit. So when you see our sister go through that, you see her go through and we act like our eyes didn't see what it saw when we watched that promotion happen with the color purple. We wanted to act like we didn't see how Oprah Winfrey treated Taraji. In my humble opinion, when you saw her walk up, you saw that there was tension. You saw that there was something happening. And then when you see Taraji write her a love letter, it's like, listen, we got to stand

tall and stand strong on what we know. We know you were mistreated. We know it wasn't right. We know it was unfair. And then you turn around and say, oh, but Lady O handled it. I have a problem with that. I have a problem with that because that allows lady Oh to keep on doing what she's doing. And we're in a position of, I don't want to say nothing because we saw how Monique got whooped. Now again,

that's just my humble opinion, but I don't know what else to, I don't know how else to frame that. It's like, listen, you better fix that because you saw what they did to her. You saw how they treated her. Is it a situation, do you believe it's a situation that Oprah might have faced something similar that maybe wasn't as public as you? And she's looking at it, well, if I faced that,

went through it and came out on the other side and look at me, it should be okay. Because sometimes we get that with parents. You know, I struggle. You say my kids should have to struggle sometimes also. Do you think that might be something going on with her or you just like she there's a disconnect? There's a disconnect. Okay. There's a disconnect and there's been a disconnect for years. There's a disconnect and I think what happens is we place people on these pedestals and we say oh no You can't do no wrong. We don't even want to hear it, right?

And when you hear cats say you know what they do. They don't say anything and they act like it didn't happen I'm gonna keep talking until you take accountability right until you say uncle.'ve done this. That's why it was so important from Oprah Winfrey to Tyler Perry Lee Daniels now Lee Daniels was the only one I had a deal with Did you see Lee Daniels apologize? He walked out on one stage. Not only did apologize on stage, that man apologized to our children. That man apologized to our children

and said, I need to apologize for what I put y'all through. He's the only one I had to deal with. However, it became a problem with Oprah Winfrey and Tyler Perry that I wouldn't do something and work for free. Now when you say well Maybe Oprah feels like she came through it. Why can't you well? There's a story with Oprah Winfrey when she was on the show people are talking Richard Scherr was making $55,000. She was making $22,000. These are her words. It was her co-host

She said I had to leave because they wasn't paying me fairly Now you see a black woman who did nothing wrong and you're in the midst of this situation. Because she called me, Tyler Perry called me, Lionsgate called. When you were on the phone with my husband, you said, I agree with Monique. I agree with the position she's taking. But, when it came time to say it out loud, Oprah Winfrey went totally silent. Now to Tyler Perry's credit, Tyler Perry called us up, right? And he said, I can see the pain in you and I can hear it. And I want to let you know that I would never do nothing

To hurt you but the conversation kept going on Only for Tyler Perry to admit he did start a rumor that I was difficult to work with he lied Only for Tyler Perry to admit I was wrong and when my movie boo come out I'm gonna say that right movie boo come out. I'm going to say that. Right. Now here's where when you did that interview with Kat, I could respect how you do it because Kat said you let them people lie in your face and your response was Kat, I don't know if they're lying or not because I can only take them at their word. Right?. Yes Well, we sent you the audio of Tyler Perry. I don't want you to take me at my word

I want you to hear his words. And what did you hear that man saying? What did you hear that man saying? He said it What did he say? Is that is Is that is You know, you're not supposed to be recording people no no no no, let me back up Okay, everything we did was legal and here's where black woman really gets the kick in the ass Had I not recorded Tyler Perry, then it would have been my word against his and then on top of that

It would have been he's so powerful we can't even pay no attention to that. Right. Well now I have him on audio which is legal to do where we live. Right. Okay. We have him on audio and do you know what some people then said? Why would you record him?

Just like you sat there and said you know what's illegal to to but did you hear what the man said? I violated you. Yeah, I mistreated you. Yeah. Do you know Shannon that's cost my family 10s of millions of dollars? Yeah. Over a lie and a rumor. If you don't, if you don't make a cut, he's gonna compensate you for that. I want you to look in your camera. Yes. And I want you to talk to Tyler Perry, because you heard what that man said So ask him will he compensate my family for that Tyler?

Will you come on club Shashey? Let's have a conversation about the fair compensation for what transpired between you and Monique You can sit right here and she's sitting right here and you and I can have a conversation And we'll do you one better and give me five on that baby. Where do you want better Shay? My husband and I'll sit right next to him. See with this whole situation and some of the people that Kat talked about ironically, I have this issues with those same people. There were people that reached out to Tyler Perry on my behalf.

And I was grateful for that. There was Al Sharpton, the Reverend Al Sharpton, civil rights leader. I sent him that audio. He listened to it. He said, baby, what that man did to you was wrong and you're like my daughter. And we're going to have to get him to fix that. We didn't hear from Al Sharpton for six months. The next time we saw Al Sharpton, he was on a podium

talking about we don't need to fly commercial because we can fly Tyler Perry's private jet. I said, that's why maybe I'm not hearing back from him. Okay. Then we had our beautiful sister, Stephanie Mills. Yes. Okay. Who is, she don't play.

Yes. Right? I told her what happened, sent her the audio. Now, I don't know if she listened to that audio or not. But however, she called Tyler Perry. She said, Monique Tyler Perry does not want to revisit this. OK, fine. Right.

While we're on the phone, Tyler Perry calls her back and says, I will meet with Monique but not with her husband then you ready for this yeah and then Monique has to apologize publicly to say open I had nothing to do with messing up her career but that'd be a lot I'm looking the goddamn camera I thought you I thought that was a stage the way you... Look in the camera. Because you heard it. Yes. Right?

Yes. So when you hear what this man is saying, so I said, Stephanie, tell Tyler Perry never will I meet with him without my husband. And I owe no apology, so I'm not going to give one. That goes away. Kevin Hart. Now, you know when Cat Williams said gatekeepers? Yes. Kevin Hart, I do his podcast. Yes. And I want you all to re-listen to the podcast

so you can hear it for yourself. When he first comes on he says you're like my mother, you're like my aunt, you're like my sister. Okay. Then we do the podcast. We speak about the Tyler Perry situation. Oprah Winfrey, he said, I don't really know Oprah, but I'm gonna reach out to Tyler. I appreciate that. Kevin kept his word. He reached out to Tyler Perry. Kevin Hart called me back about maybe a week or so later. He said, Mo, I talked to Tyler, he said he don't wanna revisit it. He said, but I tell you what, let's move past that, Mo. Let's just move past that and let's just do great things.

So whatever you- That's what Kevin said. I want you to hear me, Kevin Hart. Let's move past that, Mo. Let's do some great things together. Don't even worry about it. Whatever y'all wanna do, I will partner with you. I'll executive produce with you.

You just let me know what you wanna do., let me say that before we go any further, because I want to make sure I give Kevin Hart his proper credit. When my family was up against the wall, Kevin Hart wrote us a check and said, here you go. We're forever grateful for that. When we were able to give it back, we said, brother, we appreciate you with some interest on top, because I don't ever want nobody to think So I want to make sure I put that out there that was that brother Really helped us out when we needed to be helped out then when he came back with I got you I didn't ask Kevin Hart to do anything He said our executive produce our partner with you

I said good shit Kevin because we're in a deal with in the mall and we're trying to get our talk show back Mo whatever it is, I got you. Now Kevin Hart is one of the biggest entertainers right now in the world, right? And was then. We got off the phone with Kevin Hart, we called Endamall immediately and said, Kevin Hart said whatever we want to do, he got us, he's my partner, Executive Views. They was like, oh, this is incredible because when you put Kevin Hart name on it, you already know what it is. Correct.

Two weeks go by, we get a call from Indomal. Indomal says, we just got a call from Kevin Hart's manager, Dave Becky. And Dave Becky said, Kevin doesn't want anything to do with Monique. So whatever she told y'all, he doesn't want to do anything with her, nothing. You know, he doesn't want any, any kind of relationship with Monique. So what changed between the two weeks and when, and plus he gave you a check, you gave the money back, then said he would partner with you, executive reduce,

whatever you need Mo, hey, we got you. So what transpired or what do you think transpired between then, that two, that two week period? Well, soon as we got off the phone and they told us, well, Kevin manager, David Becky said, I called Kevin Hart immediately. I said, hey, baby, we just got off the phone, we're in tomorrow, and they said,

Dave Becky called them up and said, you don't want anything to do with me. He said, Mo, that's a miscommunication. I can tell you right now. I said, wait a minute, are you okay though with this white man calling them up, getting in between our relationship, something you said. he said, Mo, that's a miscommunication and we're going to talk Tuesday.

Don't worry about it. I'm telling you right now, it's a miscommunication. That was two years ago. If you talk to him, I talk to him. I've never talked back to Kevin Hart again. So that's what we're faced with. When you allow somebody to come in between a relationship with a woman that you said I'm like your mother,

you said I'm like these things, I didn't ask you for that. So everything that that baby was saying sitting here, everything he was saying was only up and up because when you hear people say, get the anger out your heart, oh man, no one's saying he's lying. No one ever said I was lying. It's so easy to discount and devalue because of what we look like. However, when it comes to Tyler Perry,

I will not allow you to discount or devalue because that is your voice on that audio. Remember on good times when Penny's mother was whooping up on her and then she had recorded it? That's you on tape. So how does it go from you saying you're going to give me an apology to now I owe you an apology? But what do you owe an apology for? What could I possibly owe you an apology for when you've admitted? See, when Lee Daniels says to me, because Cookie from the show Empire, I was offered that role. Now, Taraji tore it up, baby, listen here. However, I was offered that. Then, Felita called me back and said, baby girl, I said,

you're too difficult to work with. But you hear on the audio that a man told David Talbert I was difficult to work with do you see how that cost my family yes and with no accountability because oh it's the great Tyler Perry no you've got to be accountable for that Oprah Winfrey you've got to be accountable for the things you've done with my family you've got to be accountable for that is there any relationship between you and Tyler and you and Oprah currently? No, no. But I thought there was an apology. I read that I thought, I read somewhere that Oprah had issued you an apology and Tyler had issued an apology. That's not correct. No, no. The only person that's giving you an apology saw it is Lee Daniels

That's the only person so we are in a Place where We're too afraid to call them for what it is We're too afraid to say if it looked like a duck and it quack like a duck. What is it Shannon? It's a duck and it quack like a duck. What is it, Shannon? It's a duck. So again, you see the struggle of the black woman as I'm sitting here talking to you and you say, Mova, why would you record him? But you heard the man violate me.

The first thing wasn't, I can't believe that cat did that to you. It's why would you do it? And we understand it because we've been conditioned that way. Because when you're, you had to get somehow, because when you're telling people these are lies Nobody is believing Mo Nii. So now even though you have him record his voice and that's him and

He's saying he made it up now is no longer. Oh, man. I can't believe he lied on Mo Mo Why'd you record it? So now they put the owners back on you Where's the win? How do we win? How does a black woman win when you say here? He is right here and I look to the community and say how long do we allow us? To keep being exploited used up advantage of, and because we think somebody can give us an opportunity, we just say, shh, I'm not gonna say nothing. If we keep operating like that, Shannon, you're gonna have a whole lot of us

sitting right here in this same seat, almost telling the same story. Why do you think Tyler is afraid to meet with you and your husband? Why does it need to be you one on one when he meet with other representatives and their client? What is it about you that he feels it needs to be just you and he? Does he think your husband is some kind of negative influence on you? He thinks the husband is saying things that Monique probably wouldn't say if I just had an opportunity to talk to her one-on-one What do you think that is? Let me say People better be glad my husband is by my side

Because there are people in Hollywood that know wherever you act up is where I show up People know in Hollywood baby, and I don't say it with a badge of honor It's just what it is. Well, I've had to say, who you think you talking to? And we're sitting there with the president of the studio or the... My patience level is not going to allow... I've been molested, I've been violated. So the moment I see you trying to do it, we're going to have to address it. My husband is nothing but a gentleman. And you know why people have a problem with my husband? Because he's right to it. There's no, we're going to dance around the bush. He's right to it. And people like Tyler Perry, people like Oprah Winfrey, they look at my husband and say, how dare you be so direct? How dare you not put your eyes down when you're

talking to me? How dare you do that? My husband is also my manager. Why would he want to exclude my management? It's like Tyler, you should want my husband to be there. You may want him to be sitting right there so that way we can have a conversation that everyone can be heard. But I appreciate you Shannon, because most people are too afraid that's heard the tape they're too afraid to say no I heard it and this is what he said I appreciate T.S. Madison because T.S. Madison was the first one to say no I heard what he said so when folks were trying to jump on her she not down for the black woman listen baby y'all don't even understand the fights that sister be having when ain't nobody watching for the black woman, right?

So I appreciate you looking in that camera, right? Well, I mean look sometimes There are some some black people some not all some that My grandpa used to say Mo is that if you're not careful, you'll become the very thing you despise the most in a person. Now what do we despise most about Trump supporters, ex-President Trump, is that no matter what

he says, no matter what he does, they give him an out. There's some people in our community, no matter what powerful Black people say or do in our community, we'll give them an out. And we can't. And we become the very thing we despise the most. What we despise most about president Trump's, ex-president Trump's supporters is that no matter what he does or says, it's okay. We can't do that.

We can't. If somebody is wrong, like you said Mo, if somebody's wrong, we have to be mannered, warm enough to say they're wrong, regardless of what comes along with that. They don't know. They don't understand what them saying I'm sorry will mean for them. See, when I read because that's not for you and I'm sorry, it's not for the person that you offended. It's for you because currently you're in hostage your feelings because you have to live with that.

You know, what you've done. So when you see a woman say me turning 70, I'm so happy because I've never heard anyone stop it. Stop it. Cause there's a black woman that has been calling your name for over a decade that you seem to want to make go away. And I know I'm not the only one. Would you want, would you say if Oprah called Moe today, would you sit down and have a conversation with him? Let me tell you what I'll do if Oprah called me today, Shannon Sharp, we will sit down

and have a conversation with Oprah Winfrey. We will sit down and have a conversation with Tyler Perry. We will sit down and have a conversation with the presidents of Lionsgate. We will sit down and have a conversation with anyone that is, I'm gonna say brave enough to sit down and have a conversation. But what happens is within seconds, within seconds, if Tyler Perry was to sit right here, you would say, man, I heard you. What you trying to tell me about the system? Within seconds, Oprah Winfrey would know that people would say, hold up.

See, when I speak about Oprah Winfrey would know that people would say, hold up. See, when I speak about Oprah Winfrey, and let me be clear, I love that sister, because she's our sister. She just got to come back across the street. We got the light on. When I speak about Oprah Winfrey, I speak about that woman because she's spoken about me. And when you begin to speak about me privately, I'm going to speak about you publicly. You've been unfair. You've been unjust. And you watched a black woman be thrown under the bus. And you said nothing. And here's what's interesting as well. My husband was saying to me, after I won the Oscar award, right? And she had the people come, you know, to talk to the Oscar winners. And I go on the stage and I talk to the Oscar winners. Well, when we go to a commercial,

the people in the audience, and I say this humbly, as my husband was telling me, he said, mama, they wasn't screaming Oprah, they were screaming Monique. Right? Right. So much so I had to say, y'all gonna shut that shit up now, we get ready to go back on the air, we having fun. Right? He said, but I watched Oprah.

He said, I watched her almost turn in her seat like they screaming her name. Now some people will say, oh, Monique, you're, you reaching. Well, let me tell you what then happens. The movie, the Butler, that movie was offered to me. Lee Daniels came out and said, I did offer Monique the Butler, but as he said to me, he said, Mo, at the time I didn't have no power and I didn't have no money. So when Oprah says she wanted it. So who played the lead role in the butler? Oprah Winfrey

Lee Danes was getting ready to do a biopic on Richard Pryor and he offered me the grandmother Who then calls Lee Daniels and says I want to be the grandmother So as you're looking at me is the same way I'm looking at that sister. And I'm saying, why don't we sit down and have a conversation? Cause the way things could look, it may not be that way, but just the way things look Oprah, just the way you would have my family on your show. Oprah. What might say Mo? Well, I mean, if the role is they're looking for a black

Big Careful with his words. He wants a bad black woman. It's a role looking for a fat black woman Podcast If any careful, this is why we love you uncle Sh Shay Shay because we want you to set a fat black woman. Now me and Oprah fit the damn description Shay. Fat black. Don't we fit it? You do.

But I'll be right back in the bitch. I'll be your neighbor up there where you live at. Listen here. Listen here. Listen here. So. So. Are you lying?

No. Now I'm not going to have your big ass sitting here in the your big ass And you scared to say shit, okay And I want to excuse myself any of the babies that might be watching this because I wasn't gonna say no spicy things But she said get me wrong now. Come on a check one might say or people might say well mo I mean The role calls for a heavy set black woman you you Oprah, y'all fit the role. How do we know that she wasn't offered the role at long end and people think that she's better,

more and more qualified than you? It don't work like that, Shannon. You can't offer me. Once you say, I want you, that's what it is. Okay. But I don't have the money to fund a production. Right. I don't have the connections to go to the studio and say, listen, I want to do this movie. She does. So when Lee says, Hey baby, she got the money. Go get it. But

someone would just say, how is that working out like that? How is that happening like that? How is it that things that was offered to Monique, you seem to be playing? Now I told Oprah about that. See everything we're saying to you right now. You was having a conversation with her. Listen here, I don't play the behind the back. I don't play the I'ma share with,

there's one thing I will share with you that I've not shared with anybody. But I don't play the behind the back and all of that. I say listen, let me try to get to you first Now if you avoid me Okay, but I tried to be respectful I tried to call you first when she had my family on her show I tried to call you first. I tried to talk to you privately But then you became the great the great mighty Oprah Winfrey and you were too busy to talk. Well, now I'm gonna talk about it.

This woman has overstepped with me in so many ways that somebody would say, if we weren't Monique and Oprah Winfrey in the entertainment business, and we was Monique and Oprah Winfrey that worked at Costco, I'd see you in the break room. I'd see you at your cash register. Because she's overstepped.

Wow. So I don't know, Monica, this might be the term crossing of the Rubicon. We might be going too far. I don't, how do you, if you feel that way, because clearly if you feel this way, now I get why you feel this way. I don't know, like I said, I don't how do you if you feel that way because clearly if you feel this way now I get why you feel this way I don't know like I said, I don't know this. I don't I'm taking you at your word

Now not not not not the Tyler because I've listened to the audio. Yes. I'm not talking about that. I'm just talking about Oprah Yes, I'm just taking you at your word. Yes, if you feel this way, is it possible? She feels the exact same way about you? How could she? How could she? What have I taken from Oprah? When did I have Oprah's mother and father on my show? When did I have anybody come and speak about Oprah Winfrey on the Monique show? That's never happened. So how could she feel that? Would you have done that?

Had her family on? Yeah. Let me tell you how we operate. When we had the Monique show, there was a comedian on there. And he was trying to joke Tia's wife, Tiny. My husband walked out in the middle of his set. He said cut. He said, brother, we don't do that here. We uplift our folks. We don't play that. So no, I would not have done that. When Oprah Winfrey had my family, and I'll tell y'all, and I'm looking

around baby, because they have people here. Okay, and I don't want to be rude to the people at Shayshays Club. You got other people in the club, right? When Oprah Winfrey called me up, and she said, I got a call from your brother, and this is after I won the Oscar award, right? And your brother wants to come on the show and he wants to apologize to you for molesting you. And he wants to tell other people how to look out for a predator. I said, Oprah, I said, I don't want anything to do with that cat. I said, but,

and then she said, well, if you want me to scratch the show, I will scratch it. I said, sis, don't scratch it because he could be a different person. And I don't want to get in the way if that cat is a different person. I just don't want no parts of it. Right. Okay. When I hung up that phone, Shannon, I was like, I appreciate that sister. Like she didn't have to call me. She didn't have to call me and say, I'm gonna have your brother. I start seeing commercials with my mother and my father and my other brother who used to be my manager, who knew the fear that I had with the brother that was up on stage, right?

We never talked about my mother being there. She never told you that? You know how you feel about your grandparents? Yes, absolutely. You know the honor and how you speak about them? Mm-hmm. Imagine you then seeing your granddaddy and your grandmama on a show, and they're talking about somebody that

violated you and that woman didn't tell you that they were gonna be there. How would you feel? I would feel like you feel like you felt betrayed. That is exactly how I felt and how I feel and it's's not, oh, I'm in a, no, I understand it. But you portrayed me, sister, and I'm not the only one. Because at the time when she called you, she said it was just your brother. Just my brother. And when my mother was on that show,

do you know what I had to deal with, Shannon? What's that? I would be in the store, and I would have elderly women coming up to me and they would say, your mama ain't shit. Wow. Now they wasn't lying. Shannon. Okay. They wasn't lying, baby. Sometimes you got to let the truth be the goddamn truth. Sometimes you got to just go with it, but still it's my mother.

It's your mom. And I'm in here and I because when when she what I'm having to defend something and I got that Often with them telling me what my mother wasn't because you did not tell me had Oprah Winfrey said I'm gonna have your mama I'd have said shut that shit. I don't need nobody seeing my mama be greedy. I don't need the world See shut it down now. There's a white woman named Barbara Walters. They called her first. And she said, Monique, I told your family, I can't do that to you. I wouldn't do that to you. You just won that award. Like, why would I do that?

Yeah, this, I mean, you're here. Why would I bring something that I know that you don't want to talk about? You lived it. Why do I need to replay it again? Ask her. Your camera right there. I was trying to get it. I know baby. Ask her.

See this is where it gets juicy, right? Because you're saying the right things but you're asking me questions that I can't answer. I can't answer why Oprah Winfrey did what Oprah Winfrey did Yeah, only Oprah Winfrey can answer for her actions. Yeah. So again, stop being scared. No But even even this show I have a producer and I give him a lot of leeway But even this show, I have a producer and I give him a lot of leeway, but I've had people reach out and say, well, a family member said something

and I wanna come on your show and refute it. That ain't what we do here. Right. It's like, it's almost, you don't cross that barrier. We don't do the family thing. You don't do the family thing. And I'ma bring this up. I wasn't gonna do it But then it this is this seat

Truth tell it no tell the damn truth. Tell the truth because Family is sacred. It's supposed to be and we don't cross the line with family. And people begin to get comfortable to jump on the Mo'Nique bandwagon of Mo'Nique doing things wrong and she doing this and she doing that. And there's a brother named DL Hughley. Yep. And until he take accountability, I won't let it go. What?

Because, what was you gonna say? I was gonna say what did you do? Let me tell you. Baby, that voice went off, didn't it? DL is friend. He's like, that's my friend. No, I I've met DL on several occasions. I don't know DL like that. Do I do I know DL say like I know an earthquake? No, do I know? Since I've interviewed cat had several conversations with him. Do I know deal on that level? No, right See when we say family is sacred, right?

Family is sacred and we know that you don't cross the line when it comes to family correct, right? I do deals to a radio show. Yes, DL. Hugley is not there His team is there and Shannon we having a great time. I mean, baby, we having a great time We're going for back and forth when we get to the end of the show They say you want to play a game? Let's play a game and it's a game called Would You Rather. Okay, now. Mona, you should have said I'm too old for this game. Wait a minute, we're having fun, baby.

Right, we're having a good time, Shannon. Okay, I mean, it's the sister there and it's two other guys, we're having a great time. It's a beautiful black URNT cookout. We're having a good time. Okay. Would you say your wife was your family? Is that considered family? Yeah.

So your husband is considered family, right? Absolutely. Okay. So here we go. They said, Monique, we want to play a game of would you rather? Let's go. Would you rather your husband sleep with Lee Daniels with a condom or Corinne Stephens without one. Really Monique? Now as y'all are watching right now who haven't heard this story

y'all going huh they doing the same thing in the studio they going okay that is exactly what happened. Now I said to the team, how does that uplift our community? I said, sister, her name is Jasmine. How could you ask another sister that well, we just planned. I said, tell me the joke in that because I don't know what you're insinuating. Then you involve in people that have nothing to do with nothing. Like what are y'all doing? So I said, I'm gonna call my brother. DL. I'm going to call my brother. I call DL Hughley on the phone. I say, Hey, baby. Yeah. That's how he responds. Yeah. Did he know it was you? Yes. Because they called him to let him know Monique's going to be calling.

Like this, it was getting crazy. Right. I'm like, just let me get on the phone with my brother. Right? Hey, DL. Yeah. I said, listen, I just got off the phone with your team and they wanted to play this game. Would you rather?

And it was like, stupid. Like asking me about my husband and Lee Daniels and Corinne Stephens and his exact words, well that's how we do it. I said DL how does that uplift our community and again I don't know what y'all trying to insinuate but brother what you doing? Like I said that's just how we do it so it is what it is. Now it got so ugly that my attorney had to send a cease and desist. So it never aired. So we have like, when Kat Williams talk and people truth tellers talk, we have receipts to everything we're saying. That's how that whole thing got started. Okay. It's

family. My husband is my family. Yeah. Now, you babies that are really good with this internet, through the years, I've watched DL speak ill of me. Through the years. I never knew DL Hughley had a problem with me. But when Cassie, they all a group, he forgot to put DL Hughley in the group. Through the years, I was bitter. I was dangerous with what I was doing, saying that it was inequality.

My husband didn't know what he was doing. This went on through the years. I was unloved all of these things. And I said to myself, I'm a see you. I'm a see you. I didn't go on nobody's show. I didn't say nothing to nobody, but I knew the time would come that I would see him. We were scheduled to do a show in Los Angeles. I was the headliner of that show. His name was on it, then his name came off.

I didn't question it, but I knew I'm a Sam, right? Eventually. Okay, now we have a show in Detroit. Contractually, I was the headliner. D.L. Hughley posted a memo. Now, when you signed your deal for the Ravens, did you sign a contract or a memorandum? I signed a contract.

You see how you say that? Like anybody that knows good business, you signed a contract. The memo was saying, this is what I would like, but the contract is saying, this is what it is. Okay? He put out a memo to our community and that touched me a little different because I was saying why would you lie to our babies?

Because now they're thinking if they send somebody a memo, that's what they're supposed to get. Okay. I was contractually signed to go as the headliner. Right. You mean you go last. D.O. Hughley didn't come into the building until 9 30. Now contractually, I said I have to be on stage by 9 30. Because if the show

starts at eight, I refuse to keep an audience waiting. That is disrespectful to the audience. When I went out on that stage, Shannon, I made sure everything I said, he heard me. Because now you're here and I'm going to say it to you. And I said some things on that stage that I said he was cowardly. And some folks said, how could you say that? How could you do that? And then I posted some things to say, this is what I meant. See, you came after my husband. And when you had a chance to fix it, when you had a chance to say, Mo, my bad, you know, we don't even get down like that. You told me it is what it is.

And until he's brave enough and courageous enough to say, this is what really happened, y'all, y'all have never known me to be no shit starter. Folks ain't never known me to go over and kick a sandwich out of somebody's hand that's hungry. But what people do know is if you kick me, damn if I ain't going to kick you back. Because that's fair play. So there was one left out the pack. And when you have people that continually don't take accountability, that's why you see us in the state of affairs we're in.

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That's why we don't play with people's families. We had the Monique show, the radio show. Listen, you can't come on here and speak ill of no one because we don't play like that because we know how this business works. So when you allow that to happen, what do you think is gonna come back your way? What do you think? And DL Hughley, please know brother, we still love you. Just take accountability for it. And we move forward. I remember reading something about the about the situation in Detroit. I didn't know the the depth of the magnitude of it. I remember reading something about a memo about I guess

this is an addendum that was added on. But the contract is the contract. The contract is the contract. And what happens is because of the messenger, it was easy to pile on. It was easy to pile on. And then when you have some of our black folk that go sit in front of a white man and speak ill of their people, I'm like,

y'all, what are we doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? What are we coming to that we're doing? What? What are we coming to that we're gonna sit in front of this white man? I can't even say his name. I refuse. Everybody know who he is. We sit in front of him and we just let this man say any and everything about us and then we go right in with him that now see that to me is dangerous. And y'all babies as's good with this little computer,

don't take my word. You can just go through the years of this cat just running his mouth. And it's like, stop doing that because what are we saying to the babies coming behind us? We're gonna continue this, but I wanna get into where you're from, the DMV. Yeah.

Do you realize like, Chappelle, Martin, Tommy Davidson, earthquake yourself, what's in the soil in the DMV that got you guys, I mean, you've done television, stand up, all these guys have done television and stand up and are great at it. When you look at like Chappelle, Chappelle walked away from it,

said, nah, I'm gonna do my own thing cause I'm not gonna let you guys hold me hot yes But Martin still does television Tommy Davidson doesn't do as much television quick is not in television But he has you know have this all his gigs going on When you look at the success that a Chappelle Martin earthquake is habit and you say hold on Ain't none of them guys win no Oscar and none of them guys did what I did in on the movie set And they're having the commercial sense that there's a having That should be mo if I was a white woman, do you know what my name would be

wealthy Melissa McCarthy If I was a white woman my my name would be Melissa McCarthy. Same track record. Five years sitcom and syndication. Same track record. The opportunities are not the same. So when you have, and as you read all of those things off, when you say, wait a minute Moe, none of them have this, none of them have that. We get judged by a different stick. We get judged by a different stick. We get judged by a different stick. And then when I had people judging me, I'm like, you judging me by your yardstick. You've not done what I've done.

And I say that humbly. You've not had the accomplishments that I had. When I hear Brother DL Hughley say, well, that Netflix special, I just accepted anything. Whatever they gave me, these are not my words, they're his. Well that's how you do business. I'm not mad at you accepting anything. Why are you mad at me saying I won't accept anything? That's the difference. It's like people were judging me. I was hearing people chanting, okay, I didn't know we had so many tender people in our group. I didn't know we had

so many tender love. I didn't know we had so many tender love. I didn't know we had so many tender people and I wouldn't want to be on the front line with these tender people. We said, Oh, I can't believe you said that. I can't, but it's what I said. The truth is what I said. The truth. No, I didn't put no sugar on it. It was shit. And I didn't try to make it taste good. We got to stop running away from what is real and we run into fantasy. And that's how come we keep staying where we sit. Mo, before you became Mo'Nique that everybody has seen over the last two, three decades,

what were some of the jobs that you had that you like, man, this ain't for me. I knew this is just a holdover. This is just a bridge. Every job I had, baby, it was special. Was it? Every job I had, baby. You were the best at it. Let me tell you something. I worked at a drive-through in Popeyes.

I worked in the drive-through in Popeyes, and that was my microphone. Every time somebody came to that window, I was on stage. Welcome to Popeyes, my name is Monique. What would you like today? And they would say, hey, Monique, I'm Shannon. Hey, Shannon, how you doing, baby? What's your order? And you give would you like today and they would say hey Monique I'm Shannon hey Shannon are you doing baby what's your order and you give me your order then I say would you like a hot apple pie with that Shannon

you say you know what morning I sure would come on around here baby listen here my damn money cuz I was a seller baby you wanted a two-piece I gave you four hmm you weren't gonna lose no way coming through my damn window Cause I was a seller baby, if you wanted a two piece I gave you four. Hmm. You wasn't gonna lose no way coming through my damn window, Shannon. That's why I ain't lost no damn way. What I sold I ain't. If you got two pieces I ain't two of them. Welcome to Popeyes. Hi baby, come on now. That was, that was your microphone. That was, that was the beginning of Monique because you was owning did you know that's what you were doing what I knew I was doing was walking in my dream the microphone said it's possible when I stood my bathroom

mirror and I wrapped the towel around me and it didn't go all the way I wasn't devastated okay I don't know if they just didn't go all the way. I wasn't devastated. I don't know if they just didn't have enough money to buy me a whole damn towel, but I would still stay in there, that was my game. And I would pick up that brush and I would say, I would like to thank. So I've always seen it.

Did you always know that you was, was Oscar always in the back of your mind? Did you always? Oscar was never in my mind. You just wanted to be in TV, you wanted to be in show business. What aspect did you wanna do? I wanted to be famous.

I loved what it looked like with people being famous. I didn't know to say I wanna be wealthy with the fame. I didn't know to be specific, to ask for it, but I wanted to be famous. Who did you know that looked like Monique that was famous? Oprah Winfrey. So do you see how far this relationship goes? That's who I knew that looked like me.

See, I didn't, when people always ask me about the Oscar, right? But no one ever asked me about the Image Award. No one ever said to me, what did it feel like when they called your name for the NAACP Image Award, and they were people that looked like me, because we put so much weight on that award,

that we, it's such an honor, and it's an honor for any award. Right. Not just that one But as a little girl, I never watched the Oscars because nobody looked like me running So I was like this is not for me. Oh, but when I watched the image award, baby Those people look like me right the BT Awards. Those people look like me So I was honored the first time they called my name for image award. When I tell you Shannon that night, baby, when they called this little fat girl name from Baltimore and the winner goes

to the war goes to Monique. Well, listen here, I got so good with them calling my name and this is what had to humble me. You will get humble baby. When you just think they get ready to call your name. I had wanted like three years in a row. This is the fourth year. Uh oh. They get ready, yeah. They get ready to call my name again Jake, Jake. Let me situate myself and my chair. So here comes the category. Hey baby, the best actress in the sitcom, they name me, Tisha Campbell, and I cannot remember the other sisters, right? I know they get ready to say and the award goes to Monique. So I got the cuz I'm a big girl

You got this food up. Yeah. Yeah, so you can be ready to push up, right? So I school sir get my down together and no winner is Tisha Campbell. I said, alright girl It's that right back down but it was never the Oscar for me, baby. It was never the Oscar for me. So how did stand-up happen? Stand-up happened on a dare. My brother came home one day and said he went down to the comedy club

to do open mic night. And he did so bad. He said they was booing me, but I was six six beers in so I thought the booze was applause to my boy He had to say man. No, bro. This is stinking right? So we cleaning out the pool and he says I said if I was there I would have said and That was 30 minutes of what I would have said Then he said I dare you to go down next Wednesday and do open mic night. It was a club called Berks in Baltimore.

I went down that next Wednesday, Shannon, and I got a standing ovation. And from that moment to this moment, I was, I was, it is nothing like, and I'm sure you can appreciate it understand when you walk out on a football field Mm-hmm, and you walk and you smell it and you walking into it and you That little boy and you says I'm here. Mm-hmm. I'm still there that little girl in me is still saying I'm here, but I'm a grown woman, Right. And I'm saying now that I'm here, you got to pay for it fairly. If not, I'm good.

I just have to walk away. How much, how different is that Monique? Not just in age, but how different is that Monique to the one that's sitting right here on this couch? Oh, she grew up. That one was naive. Were you ever naive? Yes. Yes. Yes. When you first come to Hollywood Shannon and I got a show called The Parkers. After I was in Hollywood less than 90 days. Wow. 90 days. And you have agents and you have managers

and you have attorneys, right? And they're telling you all the good things. And anybody, everybody always said to me, you want to get the syndication. Yes. You want to get the syndication. Once you get the synd get the syndication once you get the syndication you work because you want to work, right? Right. So syndication is what five years a hundred episodes syndication is a hundred episode. Okay, right So that's all I knew I

Didn't know to X to be an executive producer of my own image And nobody told me I didn't know to X for that I didn't know to X for after. I didn't know to ask for after the third year of being on a successful sitcom that you could say, I now need a bonus. I didn't know to even negotiate that. And no one told me to negotiate that. They're definitely not going to tell you. All they kept saying is, when you get the syndication, when you get the syndication, when you get the syndication. Well, three years in the park was in syndication. Now,

no one told me that you learn it once you open your eyes because now I'm going around the country doing promos. The parkers is coming on at four o'clock in your city. The parkers will be on at two 30 in Sacramento. Y'all make sure y'all watch the parkers is coming on. I'm not knowing I'm promoting the show in syndication. No one told me that all we do're doing is saying if we get to five years, we got to five years. 110 episodes, me and a beautiful young lady named Countess Vaughn, who was my baby to this day. We had the Laverne and Shirley law, right? Supposed to be equal. Once we got to the five years,

our attorney, my attorney, and the agent said, Oh, the parkers made money, y'all gonna get paid from the parkers. It's made money. Okay. Years go by. By 2004, the parkers, we went off the air in 2004, right? In five years, by 2009, the Parkers had made $800 million. You like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Stay with me. Money. Money. Hey, come on. Hey, yeah.

All right. Okay. Okay. Cause we're going to get this money. Santa. Ho ho. Checkers coming. We get a call.

We got to do an audit, you know, and everything. Okay, and that was in 2009 that it made 800 million. We're now in 2024. And they're trying to convince Countess Vaughn and I that that show made no money. No, no, mm-mm. They're trying to convince us that a show that cost 65, roughly 65 million dollars to make

in our last year of shooting the parkers Countess Vaughn and I made 55,000 dollars apiece. That's it? How much would you make in an episode? 55,000 dollars an episode. Okay, so how many episodes did you shoot that last year? Five years. That last year we shot 22 episodes. Okay. We made $55,000 a piece at the end of a top rated... Hold on, hold on, hold on, time out, time out. Are you saying you made $55,000 for 22 episodes or are you saying you made made 55,000 per episode? Cause I want to make sure I'm hearing you correctly.

Let me make sure you hear me correctly. We did 22 episodes. Yes. We were paid $55,000 per episode. Okay. For 22 shows. Okay. Okay.

That's on a hit show. Right. That is unheard of. Yeah. Because we're two black women. I don't know the fight for it. Right as his young count as a baby in this business So I don't know to say that we should be making a hundred thousand a hundred and fifty two hundred thousand an episode So now today

Y'all want to convince us that that show made no money That show was made over two2 billion. And I'm, I'm guesstimating and you want to convince us that our percentage, we made no money. We can't allow that to happen. That's why we're fighting. That's why we're saying, no, no guys, we can't sit on our hands like that. You know how many of us, when you watch good times, when you watch the Jefferson's, when you watch Sanford and son whose family It's benefiting from our images because the damn show ain't ours

Wow, you see why I fight the way I fight Yeah, because if it does not make sense you have to explain it and I'll go back to Tyler Perry You know why Tyler pray don't want to talk to my husband because he can't talk around him My husband don't care about that man's money We don't care nothing about your title. We care about your character brother. We care about your and what you gonna pay what what you What you gonna pay how you gonna make it right? How you gonna make it right because if I am your aunt Mary and I really belong to you as I really belong to you Right now Shannon. I am your sister and you heard something that was wrong yeah how how can Tyler Perry make

it right well give you a job give you a your sick give you a sitcom said more okay you know what most sitcom you're gonna be the executive producer I'm gonna be a co-ed executive producer you gonna do the sitcom if somebody cost you Shannon shot millions of dollars, do you wanna be compensated for what they cost you for a lie and a rumor? Yeah! So at that time, I was making roughly between

two and three million dollars a year. Right. I said in that for over a decade, like 12 years. You do the math. Over a lie that he admitted that he told. Now something I'm making up. You admitted that brother. How do you make that right? You got, I'm sure you got lawyers. Have you had a conversation? Well, what happens is when you take somebody at their word, time, time, time, we don't

need to go to no lawyer's tower. You know what you did just make it right, right? And if he doesn't make it right, what will our community do? What will our community say because today is me tomorrow is you then what? Yeah, we've got to hold him accountable. What did what what what can't say we've got to you got the town of her Come on now We've got to you got to tell Tyler Perry come on now More obviously when you do when when you do stand-up you go to a lot of different cities a lot of different club Yes, it's a lot of different promoters Is everybody always been on the up-and-up with Monique or did you try sometimes people try to take advantage You're female you're black you're heavy

you're not gonna say that like mr from color purple you're black you're ugly you're not gonna do that but you know people try to take people would would try to take advantage of anyone but seemingly like us bitching were willing to take more advantage. I've had to tell the promoters, call the police. Cause either they're going to come get you or me. They're trying to hold up on the money. Call the police because, and this was, this was like $75. Can you imagine, $75 like, you know where we come from.

Yeah. If somebody gets you for $25, that's a problem Yeah, but imagine 25 million Yeah, we've seen people lose their life for $25 for sure imagine somebody getting you for millions How you supposed to feel Would you let it go? No, no Right. So when people say Mo just let it go? No, hell no. Right, so when people say, Mo, just let it go. Yeah, but it's easy for people to say let it go

when they haven't lost anything. Come on, baby. It's easy to say. Come on. But when you've lost, how do you, it's kinda like, you know, hey, someone should just get over it. You can't tell somebody how to grieve how long to grieve because you're not the one that's hurting

They didn't do it to you. They didn't do it to you. It was done and and I will say this right now on your show I still love y'all We still love y'all you love more. They make it make it right my husband Okay, say that again because you love y'all more y'all make it make it right. My husband, okay, say that again, because I- You love y'all more, y'all make it right. Yes, indeed. Okay, I fixin' my pound cake. My husband would always say,

mama, we ain't callin' nobody out. We callin' them up. And if we continue to call us up on our doings that are not right, we get better as a people. Like, we get better. Do you know why things were able to happen like they happen on the color purple?

Oh, you talk about the re-bite, you talk about- I'm talking about the seventh one. The one that just came out. Right. Right, and that the seventh edition? It's like the musical with Fantasia and Taraji, right? Right, right, right, right, right. That one with all our beautiful sisters.

Yes. You know why they're able to treat us like they treat us? How are you hand-picked and you audition? No, if you hand-picked, you don't audition. I want you to say that again, Shannon, because people don't understand how deep this goes. When I watched my sister say it was an honor to be hand-picked,

then why ever would you audition? And the moment, in my opinion, the moment she auditioned, they knew we got them. We can treat them any kind of way we want to treat them. We can do them any kind of way. But why would you want to? Just because you can, that doesn't kind of way. But why would you want to? Why? Just because you can, that doesn't mean you should.

But they did. But they did. How do you hand pick me and then mistreat me? Yes! And then I gotta send a letter to you about the mistreatment that you gave me. That's why they're able to get away with it. That's why when I do interviews,

often times on these conversations, people are too afraid to even address it. Cause they don't want to be caught up like, oh, I don't know. When you say, wait a minute, no, that's the truth. I heard it. And I don't want my character to be on the line as I'm being a person sitting there asking people about their lives and then not be able to stand in what I've heard. That's why it made so much, it was important for us. It was important for us to get you that audio. I don't want you to take my word. And anything I've said on this couch right now that don't take my word, ask those people,

ask those people and see what happens. And then maybe after this come out, they're going to label me again. She's bitter. She's not. Yeah, you got $30, $40 million. Yeah, I feel the ad for thing again, she's bitter. She's not loved. Yeah, yeah, you got 30, 40 million of my dollars, yeah, I'm bitter. Mo, the ad for it ain't gonna be bitter. Okay, I just wanna look at your camera, okay? And here's the thing, because I got a king at home, I'm not bitter.

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Last minute tickets, lowest price, guaranteed. When did Moe get a first big break in comedy? Oh. The Apollo Theater. And the sister that stayed out front that had the jury curl. If she liked you, everybody liked you. Right. If she did not like you, nobody liked you.

And when I saw that woman stand to her feet, baby. Good. I was good. There was so many moments. Were you nervous to go on Apollo because everybody know about the Apollo? You nervous every time. You still get nervous to go on?

Every time, baby. And not the nerves when you're scared. It's just that, like, oh, I get to do it again. Like when you go out to the field, it's like, oh, it's that. I still get that. Yeah. Wow. That's I mean to hear you speak and to see like how passionate you're a very very passionate person about everything. I love us.

I love us like When I say I love my people, I love my people, Shannon. I love us. I love everybody. Right. But my people, I love us. So when I speak on things, it's not the drop shade, mess, or T, I'm too damn grown for that. Right. I'm 56 and a grandmother, who got time for that? But I say it because will it make us better? Right. Will it make us come to the table and say, you know what, what do we really leave for the babies that's coming behind us? That means something to me when I talked about them damn barnets.

Let me tell you something. You say, Hey, come on. Can we like, when we come out the house, can we not have the barnets on? Can we not have the pajamas on? Can we not have the house shoes going in the whole damn Halloween costume? That's a Halloween costume that you wear on Halloween. And I am passionate about that because what is the representation that we're giving to the little girls that's walking behind you? What is the representation that we're giving to our black men?

That's walking beside us. What is the reputation that we're giving? And when they would say to me, Oh, Monique, you don't know what they're going through. We always been going through something. Yes. We was going to do something when we got off the damn boat. We've been going through something. But once you lose the pride and the dignity of what you, of what you feel like you look like, then we've lost. So I wasn't backing down on that. It's like, no, y'all, we owe ourselves that. We owe ourselves that.

How hard is it for you to love some in the community when you know they don't love you back? That's a good one Shannon Okay That's a good one cuz sometimes I'll be in the bed from having conversations with the ones that don't love me back But I still love them because I just know they're misinformed We've been conditioned in such a way in our community to eat each other up and spit each other out We've been conditioned. Well, I

don't like her. I love my people. But why? Why do I love my no, no, I'm saying a lot of times for me, Mo is that I don't take someone's word about to look because you can only judge a person through personal experience. Yes. You don't know our audio guy. But to say, oh, I don't like it. And then for you to say, well, I don't like him either because Shannon did like it. You have no personal experience with him. So why would you, why would you dislike it? People want us to dislike somebody because they've had a negative

experience with that same person. And we buy into it. We buy into it. Because this one don't like her. And then you say, why don't you like them? This is one thing my husband said to me one time. He said, mama, there's not a person on the face of this earth that I dislike. I may dislike what they do, but I don't dislike the person.

And it took me a minute to understand it because I'm like, I don't like their ass. I don't like what they did. I don't like their ass. I don't like their mama. I don't like none of them. But he said, no, there are things you've done that I dislike, but I don't dislike you. Right. And once we can get past that, then we even grow to be better. Right. then we even grow to be better. So what you're seeing right now, Shannon, is Mrs. Sydney Hicks, that my husband has set me down and had conversations with me and really taught me how to be a lady. Because people in this business know if you, sideways baby, you beat that boy over

the head with that train of cafeteria. Right. I will cuss your ass out in ways that they wish I beat him with a tray. And he had to say, mama, they won't hear you. Right. They don't hear you once you go there. So he's had to teach me how to really be a queen, right? Really know my worth, really understand my value.

And I'm grateful for that. And I used to say to my husband, I wish I could put you in a bottle and shake you up. And let black women take a sip to know what it's like to truly be loved by a black man that is a king. When I tell you, Shannon, it's a love that is unexplainable and unimaginable. That's why I can't be broken. And I say that humbly,

I can't be broken because I got a king at home. I got a king right there that when all this shit went crazy, that man took me by my hands and said, don't you know we good? And I believed him. And right now to this day, I believe him. And when you have that type of strength, it's hard to bend over. You can't. Right.

You said that when you were at your lowest, he lifted you to your highest. You better know your homework, baby. I'm proud of you. We got toast on that one. You better know your damn homework. I said that when I was at my lowest, he loved me like I was at my best.

And I was mentally ill because you're in this business. Everybody thinks you are the hero. Consideration can be thrown out the window. Patience can be thrown out the window. Because when you get home, you believe that I'm the bread winner. And what I say is what goes, and this is what it is. And then this is my third marriage, still my first, because this is the first time I've known my place

as a black man's wife. And there's a place and we get so caught up in that word, what you mean you're play, what you mean? Without him saying it, his actions showed me that he was the leader of that household. Without him saying it, I knew I was dealing with a king. And he doesn't have to constantly remind you of it. He never. He's never.

When we first got together, I sat at the head of that table comfortably. There was never a conversation about it. So one day I knew I was in the wrong place. And I moved to the side of the table and he said at the head, we never had a conversation about it. It just happened because it was supposed to. So when people question my husband and why is he there, you would hope you would have one like that. I remember our beautiful sister Tiffany Haddish did an interview with GQ Magazine. And this, in my humble opinion, is where we keep throwing each other under the bus.

You're doing an interview with GQ Magazine. And I'm assuming the journalist was a white person and the conversation turned to Monique and she said, well, I don't do business like Monique do business and I'm glad I don't have that husband of hers. But she don't know your husband. And when I saw that it's like Tiffany, if you had a husband like mine, you may not have two DUIs. If you had a husband like mine, you may not be caught up in what looks like you could have been

grooming a child. And I say all of that with no judgment. But when you speak about having a husband like mine, you open up the door. And I'm saying to you, if you had one like mine, you may not sit in these positions that you can't explain the next day. Right. Or it's a hard way to go. So once again. Well, she doesn't even have a husband, let alone like yours. Well, damn it, now you said it.

I sipped on that, Shazam. That was a sip. That required a sip. That required a sip. You, Moesha, how did that come about? Moesha? Yeah. You had an audition for Moesha, right? No, sir.

Hold on. No, sir. You didn't get on Moesha? I did. I say this, not to be,'t get on motion I did I Say this Not to be But I never auditioned what? I've never auditioned

they've caught I think I Thought I was auditioning for a Burger King commercial But what it really was with the agency I was with at the time, just trying to blow smoke, you know, making me think I'm doing something. But to audition, when I first came to Hollywood, I told this guy named, I believe his name is Mark Unray, and I told AJ Johnson, and I told a sister named Kim, Kimberly Brooks. I said, I'm not auditioning. And they was like, okay, like your fat ass, you don't audition at all. Okay, fat ass, we'll see. That's what

they did. They laughed. But I meant that. I'm like, what you see is what you get. I am not going to especially now, especially now, why ever would I audition when I've got the highest award that you can get in this business called acting and why would I do that? Because once I do that, I devalue me. If you can't look at my work and say, that's what we want, then no thank you.

Like they'll call, they'll send emails and they'll say, what's Monique availability? None of your business, I don't know you. So you just gonna send an email and wanna know what's my availability. I'm offer only. I am offer only. So again, we got to be careful what we say yes to. What Sidney Poitier say is not how many times you say yes. It's how many times you say no. And the moment our baby audition, they got set up for no trailers, they got set up for no food, they got set up for no drivers, because now in their mind, they think you're desperate.

So when Oprah does the one-on-one with Taraji and she begins to run down her credits, the great Taraji P. Henson, then why ever would you allow the audition to happen? Why ever would you allow that? Why wouldn't you go, go to that studio and say, she doesn't have to, I hand pick them. So either our sister's not as powerful as we believe she is, or either there's not the concern that she tries to make it look like it is. But you turn a couple of appearance on Moesha into the Parkers. This is how the Parkers happen. Normally you shoot a pilot. Correct.

Right? Yes. And the pilot, they decide whether or not they're going to do the show from the pilot. Right? Yes. Okay. Countess Vaughn and I, when I go to a meeting with a guy named Larry Little at Big Ticket Television, and at the time my agent was a woman named Suzy Unger, they're trying to sell a talk show. We have a meeting, he says, listen, I don They're trying to sell a talk show. Yes, we have a meeting He says listen, I don't need her to do a talk show

But if she can act she has her own show my agent said, of course she can act Well, she didn't know if I could act or not, but I said damn it. Of course I can They will count as one into that meeting that was at one o'clock by that evening They were negotiating the deal for the Parkers The way they introduced the character because they always talked about Kim's mother on Moesha. They, they introduced Nikki Parker in an episode of Moesha, which was the pilot spin off to the Parkers. There was never an audition. There was never any of that.

So now all of a sudden you got your own sitcom. Come on now, you go home and you're like, from Be More Marryla, from what I went through to this. Yes. Are you looking around like, damn it, I made up. I knew this. I knew this thing was gonna happen. Yes. Yes. Yes. And you know how you know something as a child?

Did you know you were gonna play professional football? Yeah, absolutely. I knew it, Shannon. I knew it. I knew as a child, and I say this humbly, I knew the world would know my name. Like I knew that. So once you in it, you be just like,

I still can be in a supermarket and somebody say, Monique, is that you? And I still can tear up because I'm like, I'm here. I remember when I got my first parking lot at the parkers, I didn't know I had a parking space and they would send out emails to say, if you're here for the parkers, park outside the gate. That's how naive I was when you asked me, was I naive naive so I would park outside the gate I Even though I'm one of the stars of a show baby

They said if you with the park because there's no 101 there's no Hollywood 101. There's no introduction They just say go and you supposed to get it So I would walk across the parking lot all the way over to the set to the stage Till a brother named William trip was in a golf cart one day. He said, Mo, what you doing? I said, going to the set. He said, why are you walking across the parking lot? I said, oh, because they said, if you with the parkers, you got to park outside the gate. Their brothers laughed, but it was a brotherly laugh. He said, come here, baby, let me show you something. And I got on that golf cart and he drove me to my parking space that had my name on it. That was a moment for me. Like I'm pulling up to a studio and that's my name. That's the little fat black girl

from Baltimore, Maryland, who was in the slow, slow class. That's the little fat black girl from Baltimore, Maryland, who didn't have a lot of friends, a lot of people didn't want to deal with me. But that's my name on that parking space. Now do you see why I fight like I fight? Because it's all possible. But what happens is we then lose ourself in the possibility of what we're getting. And now we're too afraid to lose it. So all the principles, all the morals, all your values, they don't go away. You just push them to the side because you know what it's like not

to have gas money. So I'll just, you know, I, I just go ahead and do that a little bit. My soul won't let me do that. Why did you want to become famous? You asked me earlier, did I know that I was going to play in the NFL? And I told you yes, because I would have done. I wanted to play in the NFL because it was going to get my grandmother and my family into a situation they probably would have never enjoyed without it. Come on. That was my driving force. That was all I thought about Mo. Given your family situation and what transpired, why didn't Mo want to be famous so bad? I'm a little fat black girl, baby.

And ask another fat black girl, we fight for that attention because you wasn't the one picked on the playground to play kickball. You wasn't the one pick for the spelling bee. You wasn't the one picked for this. You wasn't the one pick for that. So I was like't the one picked for this. You wasn't the one pick for that. So I was like, one day, one day, one day, one day,

I'm sure you growing up, you had your challenges. You were dark skinned man. There was a time you stuttered. Yeah, yeah, you know, I wasn't always popping, but now that you brought it up. Let's talk about it, Shea Shea. It was the elder barges, you know what I'm saying. Talk about it.

Your hair was curly, your skin was black. Yeah, man. Okay? Yeah, now that you brought it up I wasn't always popping. You know what that is. So now to be that. Now to be that. Now you gotta be careful. Cause you remember the time when she told you, you know I don't wanna go out on a date with old black Shannon? Yeah you know. You're a clean man. Let me talk to her right now. Let me talk to your ass that wouldn't go out with Black Shannon. Now you wish you were the one out with Black Shannon

that's studded. Okay, you wish you were the one out with Black, stuttering, Shannon, sharp ass. Now look at him, he got the shey shey show. I bet her ass a tuck. I been there. I been there, I been there. So we understand it.

You know, you understand that drive. You understand that thing in you that says, I won't let nobody stop me. Now my drive wasn't that I wanted to get my family out of poverty because I've always grown up in a middle-class environment. So it wasn't that we were dirt poor, you know, we didn't have no whole lot,

but I didn't look at it as we were in poverty. For me, I just wanted to, I wanted the world to know me. And then once I had a son, right? I was very young when I had my first son. I didn't want him to have to go to a college because that was all that my parents could afford. I wanted him to be able to do whatever he wanted to do and there was a sacrifice in that, right? Because when you're trying to go

get it, you're missing this right here. Oh, you miss a lot. The nurturing, you miss all of that. So, you know, all of that had to be dealt with. So now with this group, with my second set of children, I'm a different mother than I was then. So my whole thing is even right now we want to make sure that when we leave here our babies are good and their babies are good and if Tyler Perry not told that lie we would be on our way to that and I know people saying why she keep going back to that I'm gonna keep going back to that shit Shannon shop till he takes accountability for you say it, your first son, yes, that you're trying to get it. But it robbed you of a lot of things of a mother son relationship. And so you may sure not to make the

mistake this time around. What's your relationship like? Is he resentful of that? We're still very much separated. Okay. And and and it's a it's a it's a it's one of those things where you have to pray to the universe and say let time do the healing and that's it. Right to the universe and say let time do the healing. Mm-hmm. And that's it Right. That's it. Let time do that healing it may heal it in time and it may not and that's something that we as parents Have to say Listen, right. I've done what I

Could do I've taken accountability for it now. It's up to you, right? That's like when somebody's saying Shannon. Now it's up to you. Right. That's like when somebody's saying Shannon, I want to apologize to you. Now it is up to you whether or not to accept whether or not to but once I give it to you, I've done my part and don't apologize like no punk. I'm just sorry for everything. That gets your ass out of it. No, break it down. Let's go bit by bit so that way we know you understand the offense that you've done. Now, I'm not saying because I've had to do that. When I tell you I was so out of line and out of order when I first got with my husband,

so out of order and out of line. And this been my best friend since 10th grade, since we were 14 years old. He came to the other weddings. Okay? It was like my brother. This man, he was like my brother. He been out hustling you for a minute, Mo. You know, he wasn't.

That's why it's so beautiful, because we were like, we had a place together. He would see my boyfriend, I see his girlfriend, you know, then he might- You didn't feel some type of way? This was my brother. This was literally my brother. And then if it wasn't my boyfriend,

it might be another little fella. But you know, he was like my brother. We were brother and sister. So the way it happened, it was so pure. Tell me, that's what I want to know now. He came to you, so he came to the wedding, you saw him have girlfriends. I don't know if he was married or not before you. No, never been married.

How? How did it? I got to know this. Because Hallmark need to do a story on this. Baby girl, we got time. We got time. We good on time. Absolutely. I want you to say that again, and I don't want hallmark, but okay, okay, okay? Because this story this story is spicy, and I don't know if hallmark can handle the spice of the story so We've always been Like brother and sister right?

He was the one I would call after a show when I was staying at a motel and I'd be like, yo, they got me in this motel and niggas outside and everything. I'm scared. He'd be like, but one day, one day you're going to be on the inside. This is the same guy that we was going to the like our little farmer's market in Baltimore. And I had a comedy club called Monique's in Baltimore. And the girl had on a Monique's t-shirt. And he says, one day they know you only in Baltimore,

but one day they're going to know you all around the world. That's the same guy that when we step off of a plane in London together and the guy says, my wife knows I fancy you. And we went back to that moment coming out of that store in Baltimore, but one day they'll know you all over the world. and coming out of that store in Baltimore, where one day they'll know you all over the world. So he's always been, he always made life right for me, but it was my brother, right? And I remember one night when I thought Gerald LaVert was my boyfriend. And let me be clear, I thought he was my boyfriend. I was never his girlfriend, right? But in my mind, you know, we're we're taking somewhere, right? So I'm in my feelings. Yeah, cuz I like this little teddy bear. Yeah, right. But the teddy bear Didn't like it was reciprocated. Okay. All right, not the way I wanted it to be right. So I call up my best friend

And I'm saying I'm mad. He said, all right, he said, listen, it's all good when you come home. You know, let's just hang out, right? When I went home, I was doing the BET Awards. Right. And I had a big party at my house. Yeah.

And the next day I was supposed to go to Essence for the Essence Festival. So that night at the house, my house, the outside is packed. Ain't nobody throw a Hollywood party. Shannon shop like Monique, do a Hollywood. I had every race, every nationality, every, everything you thought could be at a party and everybody was just having a great time. A great time. Right. So he's at the party and he's very reserved, you know, very reserved cat. A great time, right? So he's at the party and he's very reserved, you know, very

reserved cat. So I grabbed his hand and said, come on, let's go dancing. And we got on and danced and have a great time. After that, I'm like, all right, I got to start packing and get ready to go to the Essence Festival. So we go upstairs and I take my shower. Well, it's nothing for him to see me naked because we were roommates, you know, so nothing so he says when you come back from essence I want to talk with you so I said okay so he went to kiss me on my cheek but the kiss was half lip it was like here yeah okay oh see it's liquid you see see, it was right there. Right now. I tried to turn the whole mouth, but it came right there. I came back from Essence Festival. What do you want to talk about? I went to his place.

Okay. He fixed dinner. Oh, okay. He fixed dinner and read this amazing poem that he wrote. That was almost 19 years ago. Uh-oh. We've never been apart since then. Wow.

We've never been apart since then. Wow. We've never been apart since then. And... I am more in love with that man today than I was when we first got married because I didn't really know what I was getting. I knew I was getting somebody I could trust because I just needed somebody that I could just trust. Like my brother stole from me. Like I just needed somebody that I could just right try like my brother stole from him

I feel like I'm just I just needed somebody that I could just trust and I didn't want to keep on having Randoms, right because that gets old a while. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to fill the void and men go through that as well as women you just get tired Yeah, so I knew I could trust him, but I didn't know he was the king that he was Shannon. I didn't know that I would be raised. And there are women that have a problem with me saying that, and I will not back down from it. I did not know that that man would take me from a 15-year-old mentality, even though

I'm a star. I'm famous. I got a few dollars in my bank account, but still had that little girl mentality. You can't correct me, you can't say nothing to me, you can't check me, you can't do none of that. Still had that way. That man was able to shut all of that down and grow me up. So I got a great one.

I won't even say a good one, I got a great one. You got a great one. Yeah. You got a lover, a best friend. Yes won't even say a good one. I got a great one. You got a great one. Yeah. You got a lover, a best friend, a manager, a husband, a confidant. Yes. Yes. Yes.

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Tell me about the queens of comedy. We hear about the kings of comedy all the time and it was great. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

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I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. to be in the presence of three of the greatest female comedians to ever do it. And when I tell you hands down, them sisters are incredible because they've paved ways for people. And when we got together, Shannon, it was nonstop history making because we were selling out in ways that were unheard of, right? And I can remember our first show, because I was not initially the headliner of the Queens of Comedy. Samoa was. And I remember our first show, and this is why I appreciate her, because she knows a great show. Like you have some comedians that feel like, you can't follow me. I tore the stage down and it's over and you can't, you can't, you can't. And I felt that way one time in my life and that was with D.L. Hughley,

right? But you have, you, she was the headliner of the show and we were in Atlanta. And it was one of those shows where the basket for me was this big. Like, I don't care what I said, it was just right. Samour is one of the funniest. It's just how energies are different. I'm liable to run across the stage, just the energy is different. And that night the energy was just different. It was not that she was less funny, just the energy was different. And this is why I love that sister. She walked off the stage that night after she closed the show, she walked by me and she said, you headline from now on. And she kept walking. We never discussed it. We never discussed it. It takes for me, it takes a person saying, we want a great show right we just want a great show correct

and that's what that was miss Laura told me how to warm up food on a damn iron with a towel she said bitch I've been to prison we don't have no microwave and we gonna eat these buffalo wings flip that iron over and wrap that Reynolds wrap up and cover it with that tab, them buffalo wings were so damn good. We just but did we get treated fairly hell to the no? No, we did not. There were times on that Queens of Comedy tour that I had to even on that tour. I had to say some things because it wasn't fair. And the way we were being treated, it was not fair. There were times when money wasn't right. And I remember the first date for the Queens of Comedy.

And I got a call from my agent. And she says to me, no more C&D promoters you're in the big leagues now Walter Latham wants to want you to be a part of the Queens of comedy Okay No, thank you. Yeah problem cuz he's a good producer of the Kings of comedy, right? This gonna be a blast. Yeah the first check I got Let me sit for I tell you. Yeah, I might need to take me a sip too. My banker called me up and said,

Monique, this check is no good. I said, excuse me. The money jump funny? Sip again. I might need a little something strong, hold on. Damn it, Shannon. The money's no good. I said, what'd you say?

She said, Monique, this check is no good. So I immediately got on the phone with my agent and I said, let me tell you something about C&D promoters. My money always good. Now I need you to get Walter Lathan on the phone. Walter Lathan, from here on out, I will only accept cash from you

moving forward. You have two hours to get the money into my account. If not, take me off to the Queens of Comedy Tour. He make it right? He made it right. You saw me on the tour didn't you? Yeah. And then one night this is why people could say that's a problem. If I tell you I'm going to pay you $50,000 and 25 cents, what are you expecting? 50,025. So one night they tried to give me what was not all of it. I need all of it. I don't care if it's a little bit. It's mine. Right. Until you get it, my throat hurts. So they had to go. I get sick on them Shannon.

Are you? I feel a little. Out of the weather. Well, I performed that night because they had to go get my money. Right. Then they started selling shows off. So what that means is, now you got different promoters coming in. We're women. We are women. Okay.

Samoa had an assistant and I had an assistant. And both of our assistants were not the kind of men that was going to fight. Okay. They might scratch it, but they weren't going to ball their fists up and do no, uh, guffing. Yeah. Okay, they might scratch it, but they won't gonna ball their fists up and do no guffin. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we're in a position and we're trying to defend ourselves because now you walking up, you walking up, you, I'm a promoter, I'm a promoter, I'm a promoter, take pictures with my family. And we had no idea this was happening. One night we're on the Kings and Queens, right? And oh how Bernie Mac has missed.

Oh how he's missed because he was a real one. All the Kings of Comedy had limos. Separate. Steve had one. Bernie had one. Cedric had one. DL had one. All of them.

Then another limousine pull up and they say, this is for the Queens of Comedy. I said, I will I said I will not I will not You better pull up four separate limousines. You're going to treat us the same way you treated them We helped sell out 44 000 people That wasn't just the kings. It was the kings and the queens so you will treat us accordingly All the kings got rolex watches when it was over. What y'all get? I'm still waiting for mine.

That's the treatment. So when people say, why won't y'all do the queens again? It was a moment in time. And it was a beautiful moment in time. And some things should be left where they were Wow This is what I want to get to I want you to get to it a Lot of this happened with the movie precious. That's the movie that made Monique a

star amongst the she shined the brightest made Monique a star amongst the, she shined the brightest because you played that role. Nobody else could have did that role justice, Mo. Thank you, baby. Nobody. You played it and I remember walking out the movie and I called my sister. I said, she gonna win the Academy Award for that role.

I said, it's almost like she was born to play that role. Now, now tell me, correct me if I'm wrong. Okay. Okay, you shoot a movie. Yes. The movie wrap, you might have to come back and do some voiceover, some, some here, some touch up work here or there. Yes. That's already scripted into the contract. Now, the promotion aspect of the contract, what you contracted to do because that seems to be where the the conflict seems to come in because you like okay? what so Tell the people that's gonna watch this and listen to this What was Monique? Contractually obligated to do as far as the promotional aspect of Precious?

I was contractually obligated to promote the movie Precious under Lee Daniels productions. I promoted Precious under Lee Daniels productions. I did Oprah. I did magazines. I did TV shows. I did all of the promotions. I was contractually Obligated to do okay. That was it. That was it. I'm done with it done. Okay done now pressures is going to can Right. Mm-hmm at the time. I have the Monique show. Mm-hmm. I am on the spread the love tour. I Have toddler babies and I'm also a wife. Mm-hmm. Okay Monique the Monique show is like down for maybe a couple days a week or so. I got some days off on the tour. I'm going to relax with

my family because once they sold the movie, you didn't sell me. Whoopi Goldberg. See, Whoopi Goldberg said I could have schooled you and told you what was expected when I didn't promote and go overseas. And you know how you just looked up and looked away? Yeah. Whoopi Goldberg, what you were saying to me, I could have schooled you and told you, you go on in that house and let them have their way with you. Right.

And I'll be here when you come back. Mm-hmm. have their way with you. Right. And I'll be here when you come back. So after I'm done with my promotions, Lionsgate reaches out to my husband. Initially, they think they're talking to my attorney. Right. And they say, we want Monique to come to Cannes to she promoted so well in the United States. We want her to go international and promote the movie and do can okay. I told my husband, please let them know I respectfully decline. I appreciate it. But I respectfully decline. I'm gonna spend some time at home. Lionsgate calls back. We really would like for Monique to come to Cannes to promote this movie. Please let them know I respectfully decline. I'm going to spend time with my family.

Lionsgate calls back and says, what is it going to take for us to get Monique to come to Cannes? We'll give her another week in France. We'll upgrade her room. My husband said, is there a dollar amount attached to what you're asking for? Oh, we will never pay anyone to promote a film, never. He said, we understand, and we're never going to work for free. You're asking her to do something that she's not obligated to do. Correct. Well, is this the attorney? He said, actually, I'm her manager and her husband.

Now we can put it on the husband's being difficult, right? Right. Okay. So I don't owe anybody anything. That's why I was never sued. Now we go to the hoodie awards. Tyler Perry is there. Okay. Tyler Perry calls me in his room. Now when I go into Tyler Perry's room, his staff is in there. Now you ready to holler laughing? Yes. Okay, I take my security in there with me, because I always want to have somebody with me. Right. Tyler Perry does this.

And the people scattered. They all left out the room. I said, look at this shit right here. You saw me, and they all scattered. That wasn't the lights, that's for the people you know like life on Lights off cuz they got the asses about okay, okay, okay, so at the time my security look at me I said you don't work for Tyler Perry You could do she so Tyler Perry says to me Listen Monique. We really need you to you know promote this film because if you get nominated for the Oscar Your next movie is gonna to be three to $5 million. If you win it, your next movie is six to $8 million. I said, Tyler Perry,

who are you talking to? I'm a black woman. When they're going to pay that kind of money. No, I'm telling you, that's what it is. And if you just go and promote it, I said, listen, brother, you can pay me to promote it. Because at the time now him and Oprah producers on a film, I said, you can pay me to do it. I don't care where the check come from, but y'all just gotta pay me to do it. He said, I'm not in the habit of giving out money for free.

I said, and I'm not in the habit of working for free, but you gave TD Jakes a check for a million dollars, but that's another story and I'm back. So when he then says that it's like listen, we both mutually agree You don't give out free money. I don't We hugged Shannon When we were done talking we hugged do you hear me? Yes, we hugged like brother and sister like it's cool He understand right? Okay. Okay Oprah Winfrey calls my husband. I Okay, okay Oprah Winfrey calls my husband I

Want y'all to Take your time cuz I'm gonna go with you. Yeah, you got your camera. Yeah, cuz the people at home They sitting like morning what happened bitch? I'm gonna take She calls my husband. Okay, my husband explains to her what's going on She says there have been times I've had to draw the line in the sand So my husband said well, what is different between you and Monique? You've got to draw the line and you're saying when you know they're asking you for too much,

she said, you're absolutely right and I understand your position. You're right in the position you're taking. So when you're looking at me saying, well, what happened? I'm telling you what happened. But okay, she's saying that privately, but did she voice that publicly? Did you hear her say it?

I didn't. Did you hear her say it? JT, did you hear her say it? No. Did you hear her say it, Zach? Regina, did you hear her? Tommy, no one seemed to hear that publicly. She said that privately.

Now when she said that, see, everything we're saying to you, it can be proven. She had him on speakerphone and that when she was talking to him, in that room was a man named Reggie Wells, who just passed, who used to be Oprah Winfrey's makeup artist, who he had a conversation with me and my husband now for you babies That's good with the little internet. We had a show on called Monica Sydney find a way be an offended Finding a way to be an offended Reggie Wells is on that show speaking about Oprah Winfrey Reggie Wells said Monique I was there that day He said and when y'all got off the phone, he looked I I looked at her and said, why don't you just pay this woman the money?

She deserves it. And she looked at him and said, I won't be paying her nothing. And he said, that's not right. And you know, it's not right. Now that man shared that on that show. So I'm not saying nothing and hasn't been shared. So you have people that will say things in private, but won't do it publicly. I'm the person that I will say it in private and I'm going to say it publicly

because that's the only way we make it right. But you don't need somebody to talk good to your face. You need somebody to talk good behind your back. So if you telling me, if you telling me what a great person I am in my face, but you telling me I'm dog poop behind my back, what good is that, that? What does that make those kind of people Shannon? That's what does it make those kind of cowardly that

is cowardly. See here's what's this when we have our juggernauts Oprah Winfrey Tyler Perry Steve Harvey the Kevin Hart. These are our juggernauts of our community. These are the people that our babies say, when I grow up, I wanna be that. I wanna be like that. So we have to call those people to the Met and say, listen, what are you teaching our babies? You're feeding poison

because you're showing them your private jet. I'ma show you my mansion. I'ma show you my fancy cars. But my character is shot and I'm bankrupt. I got a lot of money in my bank. It's more zeros than some of them can, than we can imagine, but their character, they are bankrupt. Those are bankrupt people.

So everybody that cat sat right here and told you about, I can't wait to see your next interviews with those people. They ain't coming on now your next interviews with those people. They ain't coming on now, Mo. Invite them. I have. They not gonna do it. Well, look, I've already done Steve.

I have a relationship with Steve. Do him again. Do him again. And I'm gonna say this. I'm trying to get Oprah and Tyler, though. Baby, we got them. Y'all come on, stop playing. They ain't coming on, Mo, thanks to you.

You know how. and Tyler though. Baby, we got him. Y'all come on, stop playing. They ain't coming no more thanks to you. You know how. And I don't want to put you on the spot, but I'm gonna say it because I appreciate you as a black man and what you're doing. Thank you. If you were my friend, and someone says to me,

Monique Shannon sharp wronged me, and you my friend, I'm gonna call my friend. You can come to me, Monique Shannon shot wrong me. And you my friend? Yeah. I'm gonna call my friend. You can come to me. And I'm gonna say, hey, is what they saying true? And if you get to him in a horn, I'm gonna tell you till you fix it,

you and I can't talk. Because if you'll do them that way, it'll be a matter of time before you do it to me. So if Steve Harvey is your friend, you call your friend up and you ask him, is what our sister saying right, man? Because if it is, we can't do that to her. If that's our sister. See, it took a transgender named T.S. Madison.

It was a guy named Jamaica Carter. Jamaica Carter and our mutual friend. Jamaica Carter and our friends. T.S. Madison was a mutual friend. So Jamaica called me and said, would you mind doing T.S. Madison's show? I go do T.S. Madison's show. When I tell T.S. Madison when the camera cuts, I said, listen, your friend is wrong. She said, Monique Lee Daniels is my friend. I said, then you need to call your friend and tell him to fix this shit. She said, I will. Within a couple of days, who did I get a call from? Lee Daniels.

See, that's a friend. That's a true friend is saying, I love you so much that I want to make sure that's not on your heart or your conscience. Let's fix it. Let's make it right. So when people ask Lee now, when we did the deliverance together, how was it to work with Monique? What?

It was as if we had never parted ways because he fixed it. He owned it and he took accountability for it. I can't now keep you to the cross because you've owned it. I've had to be forgiven. So I appreciate that someone had grace and mercy with me. So I'm going to have that with other people when they take accountability for what they've done. How much did you make for the role, Mary Impression? I was paid $50,000. That's it? That's it, and I never complained,

because that's what I signed up for. It was an independent film, right? So when my friend called me, and I'm gonna quote him, he said, bitch, this one right here, right here. He said, this shit is crazy. By the time I got to page 10, I called him back. I said, what the hell is this, Lee? He said, bitch, I know.

He said, it's sick. After my husband and I read that script, he said, mama, if you play this with no judgment, when he say action, don't judge the character, just become it. This is an award-winning. Yes! This is award award winning. Yes! This is award winning.

So with all of that being said, I never complained about the $50,000. I did everything I was supposed to do. No nothing. It is when they started asking me to become a slave. It is when Tyler Perry and Oprah Winfrey started asking me to work for free. It is when they started doing the bidding for whomever the gatekeeper was at the

time to say we can get her. Remember the scene in sparkle. You ever seen sparkle with Irene Carroll and Philip Michael Thomas? Remember when they was in the car cause the Jew man was trying to get him to sign over that contract and he kept shaking his head like, you will not get me to turn my back on this woman. That's what this is. We ain't turning our back. My husband ain't turning his back.

He ain't signing up for something he know ain't right. And people have a problem with that. And we got to keep speaking on it, Shannon, because the next one's coming for real. I would hate for you to have to sit another sister in this chair. And she tell you the same story. So considering you won the Oscar, normally when you win the Oscar, not saying you're going to win another or get Oscar worthy, uh, uh, uh, scripts, but there's normally a run where you in, you know, two, three films.

Now Mo' Monique that fifty thousand is five hundred or a million or two million you feel feel that you were blackball from that point and Monique did not make the money what she should have been compensated for future roles let's tie it all back in okay okay you have a man that says, a lot on you. Yes. I put a rumor out there on. Yeah.

And I said, I was going to apologize, but then you have another man that comes back when I'm offered empire and says, Mo, they said you difficult to work with. You're going to be a problem. Where would they get that from? Work somebody. This is powerful. This is time.

Okay. So now I'm scratched from that. Yeah. Right? Now when it comes to movies, I'm a difficult person to work with. Nobody ever had a problem with me. They never said, did anybody say that prior to pressure? Yes, no, not prior to pressure.

I've never had a problem with nobody. As long as I was saying yes, you good the moment you start challenging We got a problem. What about the Parker? What about Mo Isha had anybody said anything about Mo Nique's character? Prior to a print her not wanting to do international press what she wasn't contractually obligated to do Proud of that nobody said anything never the only person that person that could say anything that is a producer is a guy named Will Packer. I did a movie called Almost Christmas. When Will Packer sat down with my husband and I Shannon, every other word out of his mouth was queen. You are queen and the queen and the queen and the queen and we just want you to do a cameo and here's what we're going to pay you.

My husband said, well, that does not cover Monique doing promotions. That covers none of that, brother. This is just for the cameo. Okay. The director was David Talbert. My husband and David Talbert were college roommates. They were across the hall from one another. In the script, I was that quick because it's a cameo. Right. Okay. So 99% of the things you heard Aunt May say, it was Monique, it was me, Ad Libby. Okay. Because it's a cameo. When we had a meeting with Will Packer, Will Packer says, if you do this for me, I'll give you a three-pitcher deal and a sitcom. Now we have all of this in writing

It's all in what would you what would you what would you what would you need to do a press? You don't need to do press for it. You don't need to promote it or just you just do the test do the cameo That is what was agreed upon We were gonna do a cameo for the amount of money that he said they were gonna pay no problem Well, what they did was they kept spreading it out. They kept spreading this character out. We want you in this scene and that scene and this scene. But there ain't no cameo. Cameo is a... Okay. Okay. David Talbot is our friend. We don't want to make this bad for David Talbot. So we said, okay, no problem. Now let's talk about the treatment. While we're on that set of Almost Christmas,

there were a few things that was happening that I took issue with. Will Packer is a producer. He came on that set and tried to give us a direction while the director was standing right there. I said, Will Packer, I will not allow you to do that. You would never do that to Steven Spielberg. You would never do that to a white director.

You as a producer, you're gonna just walk in and give a direction, So I will not take direction from you. If you have something you want to give to me, you give it to the director and you have the director to give it to me. You are disrespectful to him. Now I had a meeting in David Talbot's trailer with Will Packer, David Talbot and the first AD because they were being disrespectful to this black man. And I was not going to allow that to happen. I had a conversation with the first AD and I pulled him outside. I said, listen, brother, when it's your turn, I won't let nobody do it to you. But what I'm not going to do is stand by and watch you give a direction after the director give

us a direction. It confuses the cast and it's disrespectful. And to that black man's credit, his eyes filled up with water. And he said, I appreciate you for having this conversation with me. Okay. So we'll pack it now now at odds because I'm seeing how this brother's acting. I'm in my trailer. My assistant at the time, her name was Robin, right? Robin is in her fifties. She's in my trailer with her shoes off. She's on the computer Will Packer's friend or I'm not sure what title to give her. Okay She comes into the trail now in this trailer It is me my hair stylists makeup artists and my assistant this young lady who we're all old enough to be her mother She comes and looks at my assistant and said what's your shoes doing off?

old enough to be her mother. She comes and looks at my assistant and said, what's your shoes doing off? You and your trailer. Why don't you care? I said, excuse me, you're out of order. You don't come in here questioning nobody in my trailer. As a matter of fact, and her energy was not that up. I'm playing. It was, what you, I said, as a matter of fact, I need you to go get will cause I'm not even gonna have this conversation with you I'm gonna talk to your boss when will packer comes into that trailer for us to talk

Do you know what that man says to me and my hair stylist and my makeup artist and my assistant? I am the head nigga in charge Everything stops with me. I Said well, I want to let you know this, Will. You're going to hear that you're the hit nigga in charge for me as many times as I can tell people that's what you said. I said, and furthermore, you need to check your assistant

because this is my space. We weren't in your trailer without shoes off. We're in my space without shoes off. But why would he come to you with that type of energy? What led him to say that when all you asked his assistant to do was to go get him because she's questioning why people in your trailer have the truth. That's a good one because what I said to him was,

who do we need to talk to? This young lady can't be up in here like that. And that's when he became the head nigga in charge. And then I said, who are you the head nigga in charge of we have Danny Glover on this set We have a legend and the icon. Are you the head nigga in charge of him? Are you the head nigga in charge of Kimberly Elise? Are you the head nigga in charge of Gabrielle Union? Are you the head nigga in charge of JB smooth? Who are you the head nigga in charge of so he tried to laugh it and joke it I said, uh-uh

I don't play that way, brother. I said, the food is bad. Like what we doing here? The food was slop. So when they say they didn't have any food, the food we had, nobody ever ate that food because it was just like you can feed them anything. Now here's where it gets even better. Remember how Taraji said the trailers were infested? Yes. Taraji said the trailers were infested. Yes, our trailers blew up They blew up now what I whenever this airs I'm gonna post the trailers blowing up so the people can see right but they blew up and if any of us were in those Trailers we would have been gone right the trailers blew up now

When I was smelling the gas we went to the brothers that was hooking up the trailers and we said hey we smell gas They said mo we let him know talking about the head nigga in charge. We let him know he just said okay and walk away I said he what he just said okay and walked away the trailers blew up. Did Will Packer reach out to anybody? I can't say he didn't reach out to me and say, hey, is everything okay? Did you lose anything? Is everything good?

The only thing they wanted to know from me was where was Aunt May's wigs? Where are those wigs? Nobody asked, not the studio, not Will Packer, not nobody said, are you good? Did you lose anything? I said the wigs blew up in the explosion. So to understand what we have to deal with and to understand most people are too afraid to say it out loud that we are being mistreated. This is, this is, this is not right. Right.

So if that means y'all want to play with me, I don't want to play with you either. Let's be clear. I don't want to play with somebody that don't care if I blown up. What if we were in those trailers? What do y'all say to my family? What do you say? So with Precious, I owed no one anything. With Almost Christmas, I owed you nothing. However, I did it because we had a relationship

with a brother named David Talbert, and we didn't wanna send him through no drama, no nothing, so we went along with it other than that Shannon Sharp There is no one that can say that will sit in my face or my husband's face and say we had a bad experience with you I read that you said you read you this is a chapter of forgiveness That's your thing chapter. Oh, I didn't that. That's what the God Hollywood Reporter said. Okay? Don't put words in my mouth. That's not what I said. That's what his ass said.

Okay? What did you say? Okay? Okay. That's what he said. Listen. What would it take, Mo? Mo, what would it take for Mo Neek to forgive Oprah and Tyler Perry? Be accountable. Be accountable. Be accountable and for Tyler Perry. You want Tyler Perry to say what he said on that tape, you want him to say that publicly. And he cost my family millions.

And you want to be compensated. Yes, I wanna be very clear about that. If someone cost you millions, do you want that back? Absolutely. So I'm no different than you. Right. Especially when I've done nothing wrong. Right. Especially when you've admitted that back? Absolutely. So I'm no different than you, right? Especially when I've done nothing wrong, right? Especially when you've admitted that you've lied, especially when you've admitted that you started a rumor. Yes

You need to compensate me and my family for Oprah for Oprah Winfrey You owe me an apology See Shannon Oprah and I had a private conversation about our mothers. This the part people don't know. I shared with that woman what me and my mother were going through. Now, my mother's no longer here. And I shared with Oprah Winfrey what we were going through and how I felt. And I was, you know, you trying to balance it out because it's your mother.

And I shared that with you. And I shared with her, my family and what the dynamic was. And you don't tell me you're going to have my goddarn parents. I was going to say, God damn, maybe it was right there. But you don't tell me you're going to have my mother and my father on your show. And you think that that's just okay. And the way you try to apologize in front of a group of women, if you think I've done anything wrong, you're

going to stop that. I am very proud of what you've accomplished in your life. We respect everybody, but we over respect no one. And Oprah Winfrey walks around like, I can't be checked. I won't admit to that I'm wrong. I'm a firm believer, Mo, no one is beyond reproach. No one at all. So when you keep saying, what is it? I'm going to keep answering you the same exact way. So if you talk to your camera, I'm going to talk to my camera and see how they split the screen and we're going to invite them at the same time. You talk to them first. Tyler, Oprah, I would greatly appreciate it if you two guys would come on club. Shayae Shae. We sit down

We have a conversation. This is not an interview. This is not hard-hitting I want you to tell your truth miss Oprah or Tyler tell your truth and we can get to the bottom of this because Hey, we got an icon here sitting on this couch and she's heard Oprah and Tyler I want to say I appreciate my brother Shannon Shaw for saying what he just said and I want to clear something up I'm not hurt personally. I'm hurt for our community I'm hurt that y'all would allow yourselves to sit in something that you know that you've done wrong and not say anything That helps us not so brother. Shea Shea have said y'all come on the sofa Oprah this liquor is good Okay, and I understand you like cranberry and vodka.

Okay? Roosevelt Cartwright told me, your drink that you like. And you know, he told me some other things with the drink that you like. Come on on, Uncle Che Che. Let's have a conversation. Ain't nothing, well, you took yours all the way down and I cannot. Okay? Okay.

I cannot, I cannot do that. You already did a good job. Thank you, sugar. Now, when we get ready to wrap up, I'm gonna give you an exclusive on something that don't nobody know. Okay? Don't nobody know this. And it's gonna be something.

It's gonna be something. It's gonna be something. I wanna get, look, I know it's traumatic. And if you don't wanna have to relive it, you don't have to. What you went through with your brother. Yes. When you going through with your brother? Yes. When you're going through that, how is that impacting you? During that time

because I think you're seven to 13. You better do your damn homework, Shannon Shaw and the impact that has had on you and your relationship with me. Oh. Shannon trying to be a journalist. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Shannon, I told you to look at you. God damn it, you see he trying to come up. Barbara Walters, get off my brother.

What impact? Wow. What impact? Wow Remember when you said and I don't know if you said this so I don't want to quote it because I could be wrong okay, but someone says Shannon Sharp don't mess with black women and Before you go any further can I say this please? My grandmother told me something when I was a little boy. She said, boy never chase a lie. Come on, baby.

Come on. Come on. And you never said that, right? I never said that. Okay, so that's why I said... I got black kids! That's what I said. I said them babies black, black.

Yes! They not confusing. Yes. We ain't trying to see if she Latin or Dominican. They black black. Their mama got black black. Everybody that shared a mess with was black black. Right?

Black black. Okay? So there's this thing with us that you can't tell us nothing. And oftentimes when a black woman's been traumatized, she's guarded. Now you take a black woman that's been traumatized and now she got a little bit of money. And you take black men, some of them,

that is impressed with the money. So I can say to you what I want to, not being totally disrespectful, but you know who's running this. You know how we do this. I've always had an aggressive personality. Yes. I have always jumped with, if I think you trying to violate.

So to say, what did that do to me, it made me like this. And it made me say, I'll get you before you can get me. Because I know what it's like to not be in control of what you're taking from me. I know what it's like to be in a position where there's nothing I can do. Right? So when it came to men, baby, listen, I had my share. Okay. I'm not saying I was no whore, but I was close. Hey, come on now, get back to me. Now get back to me now get back to me call me later

Because You a football player with a lot of money when you go into a city and you was in your prime You had your pick. It's no different for a woman When I went to a city everybody wanted to be professor Ogilvy Hey and I would pick them Okay, you look like you could be bussy hair here the thing, now Mo, all of a sudden, you being this fat black woman, it ain't a problem. You gotta remember, I remember you said it was the Kingman Burts. Well, let me say this.

It was a never problem with me being a fat black woman because real black men, they like them in all shapes and sizes, all complexions. It is these new Negros that get into, she gotta be this way, she gotta be that way. But real black men, if you can bake a pound cake naked. What y'all talking about? What you talking about?

But what it did though was, and this is why I feel the way I feel about my husband. Okay. I remember him saying to me one night because when we first got together I was I was a handful Shannon And that's when I was really sick in the way that I thought and he said check this out You've used your brother molesting you as a crutch for your bad behavior He said and I won't allow that. He said, when you was a little girl, there was nothing you can do about it.

But now as a grown woman, every choice and decision you make, it is yours. And I will not allow you to keep on saying, because of my brother, because at what point do you take accountability for you? Baby, that grew me up and that night, that grew my ass up that night so fast because I wanted to hear what my psychiatrist was saying to me I understand my husband was like check this out check this out

you are in control of you every choice and decision you make everyone you lay down with that was your choice you've never come back to me and said you were raped as a grown woman you've never said that so stop holding on to that cr So stop holding onto that crutch, stop holding onto that victim. Cause this happened to me, I'm mad for days and I come up out of that. And when I went to the psychiatrist, right? Everything my husband said to me,

the psychiatrist said to me, but he said, I needed you to go to somebody that had no dog in the fight because I didn't want you to think I was judging you. I didn't want you to think that because I know the history, I'm pointing my finger. So when I would go to that psychiatrist, Dr. Cassandra Wanzo, she's incredible.

Y'all want to know about rear bottom shoes? Let me tell you somebody that's going to get your mind right. Dr. Cassandra Wanzo, this woman was incredible. But every time I would go to session, everything she said, my husband had already told me. So me and men, I had to come to grips with that. I had to come to grips with being an insecure fat girl. And I had to come to grips with my sister telling me,

ain't no man gonna ever really want you because you fat. I had to come to grips with, my father was like, listen, I'm, but I'm really not. I had to come to grips with those things. So my way of coming to grips with those things was now I'm a boss. I'm independent and I'm empowered. Don't you know I run this? See, I too went to the Oprah Winfrey University of empowerment and you don't need a man to make it. I signed up right and I was at the top of the class till I realized I was going to be an empty I Was going to be it with nothing but stuff I did not want to be the poor little rich girl who have everything but nothing at all. Don't that sound familiar?

I did not want to be that Shannon. So even for the men even for the men that I was with Right you were with them I Wasn't no, okay. Talk to me. Shannon. Let that liquor use you that was I wasn't with them. That was just a body for the lonely Liquor makes shit sound good morning Let it will make you not sound like a whore. It was just a body for the lonely Let me tell you what my husband, I was, I was a whore. I was crying. I was, cause, cause when you come to grips with it, when you realize how many, when you realize what you've done and you got to come to grips with it. And now I'm sitting in front of the greatest person I've ever met.

And I gotta say, I have been with this many. And my husband looked at me and said, mama, you ain't no whore. You ain't no whore. You ain't no whore. You ain't no whore. You ain't no whore. You ain't no whore. You ain't no whore. grips with it and now I'm sitting in front of the greatest person I've ever met and I gotta say I have been with this many and my husband looked at me and said mama you ain't no whore you just have friendly pussy friendly pussy right that's what he told me he made it right so did you ever have a good relationship with your father? Yes when I was a little girl little when I was a little girl my father could do no wrong when I was a little girl baby my father would put me in that car and he would go to the cut race store and he'd get his liquor and he'd go over Mr. Johnny house now I'm a little girl right he go over mr. Johnny house and mr. Johnny going back and I could smell the reefer

But I didn't know it was reefer right and they smoke and they had their little drink they come back out I was attached to him. Mm-hmm me and my father started having a problem when what he was saying to me wasn't making sense What did he say? And I'm about 13. Okay, was just, he was a bullshitter, but he was a good sounding bullshitter. And so as a kid, you'd be like, my father know everything. But once I started growing up and I started seeing the treatment that he gave my mother, never physically abusive, but mentally they abused one another. I won't just put it on, but once I started questioning him on just some of his decisions and choices, I became the bad person. And I went to my grandmother one time,

Mimi. I talk about her. You have a very close relationship with your grandmother, as did I. My father, this was one incident that sent me to my grandmother, bent over crying. I was trying to get a Ford Festiva, right? It was four gears, okay? It was about $2, but I didn't have the $2, and I needed a co-signer, right? So I asked my father, please co-sign for me to get this Ford Festiva. And I'm going to quote him. He said, Nikki, you won't fuck up my credit. And I'm like, well, what have I ever done to make you think I would fuck up your credit?

I pay my rent on time, I'm responsible, I go to work. No, the next week, not only did he co-sign for my sister, he just signed for my sister. Like he put the call in his name, right? I go to my grandmother and I'm like, Mimi, why would he do that? Like she said, Nikki, every parent knows their weakest link and every parent knows the one that's going to be okay. She said, you're going to be okay. At that point, I wiped my tears and I'm glad he didn't co-sign. I'm glad I had to bust my

ass to get it. I'm glad I had to figure it out. I'm glad he didn't just come and rescue it. I had to figure it out. So that's why right now when I sit here, and you go through a decade of being blackballed or whatever, you're difficult and all that, it allowed me to keep standing. It allowed me not to it allowed me not to go sit on a couch with Oprah Winfrey and say I'm sorry for nothing. I've ever done to you. That's what those lessons taught me Stand in it and stand strong Unapologetically you speak a lot during this interview spoke a lot about curses and the trauma. How do we break that? Generational trauma that curse that is in our community?

What we've said from the beginning, and that's truth. It's just the truth. We get so comfortable based off of lies that the lies become the truth. I think if we just started dealing with the truth. Address it. Address it. Even when it doesn't put you in a good light, it eventually does put you in a good light it eventually does put you in a good light because then people start talking about your honor and your character and your integrity if I've wronged you please tell me right please tell me and then show me where I've wronged you if you can say Monique this is what you did right here then I owe you an apology but if our community dealt in truth, how much further would we be?

That's it, that's how I think we make it better. We deal in the absolute truth. But sometimes, you know, it's kind of like when I tell people I was explaining to someone, I said, just imagine you went to the doctor, and Lord forbid this happened. You have cancer, but we're not gonna treat it. It's gonna go away. No doctor would tell you that. You have something going on, we're not going to talk about it.

It'll just go away. That's what they bank on. That's what they bank on. And too many of our black women have gone to their graves. They've left here in despair. They've left here broken hearted broken Broke down and we got a chance to see it in live and in person with our beautiful sister to Roger Henson What gave you the courage your Netflix they offered you one thing you found out they had gave someone Ten times. Mm-hmm that That, no, 20 times. Come on, 26. 26 times that.

Mm-hmm. And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not trying to do that. We're not gonna do that. We're gonna do fair. That's what we do. Yes. I mean, you speak about diversity

and you talk about doing the right thing. Okay, this is an opportunity for you to put that, instead of being lip service. Okay, put pen to paper. Let's make it right. I didn't know any other way. I didn't know any other way. See, when I heard Wanda Sykes say, I support you, I just want somewhere else. I don't know how to do that. Especially when it's wrong. If we keep just going somewhere else, we'll keep getting mistreated. But when you hear Amy Schumer, and this was not something I found out,

they publicly said it, it was pride. We paid Amy Schumer 11 million, she came back and said, I'm not a legend or icon, but I should get at least two more million, and they gave her 13 million. Well, when Netflix says to me, you are a legend, you are an icon, when Robbie Peral says that, well, why is my legend and icon different than these people legend and icon? That's all. And when I say we were

able to come to the table and we were able to make it make sense and we were able to do the special and we appreciated them saying, listen, how can we work this out? Now, you know what happens with that? People were having call-ins when I said, this is not right. I was donkey of the day. Remember that? I was donkey of the day. The breakfast nubs called me the donkey of the day. That's what they said. And they had a whole call in about how I was donkey of the day. But you didn't do the same thing when you found out we settle Now all of a sudden don't nobody know what a settlement is. I mean what we don't even really it was really really quick We just won't throw it away. So with that Netflix special it was just it was just like no guys

I gotta I gotta stand up Because if not that little girl coming behind me for real right that has that resume I Want to let her know you can fight baby, right? You just don't have to say okay, you can stand Would you be willing to do another Netflix Netflix special? Yeah, I had a great time. I had a great time. I had a great time now for me specials are specials Right. It's something special right? So, you know, we'll see right You know, I Wanted to ask people that that I hear our community called, you know, the community called me. Oh, yeah, they call you auntie. Yes

Do you wear that with a badge of courage like I do I wear it? That was such an honor for you babies to put Auntie on my name. Do y'all know how that made me feel? And I'm not the Auntie that's gonna tell you the shit that you want to hear. I'm the Auntie that's gonna tell you what you need to hear. So for the things that I have said about our community and our babies and our sisters, I cannot back down because y'all gave me the title. I didn't ask for it. But when they gave it to me, Shannon, that was the universe saying, you now sit in that seat.

You are now responsible. That's why I must speak out and I must speak loudly and I must say it to the top of my lungs because God damn it, Fannie Lou Hamer didn't do it for me. God damn if Urfakit didn't do it for me. God damn if Moms Mabel didn't do it for me. The ones that came before us, and there's a woman still alive named Sylvia Tremor Morrison. That woman got paid in a Coca-Cola. That woman got paid in a Coca-Cola at her next gig and $5. She was the first black woman to write for Saturday Night Live, but they have her listed as a production assistant, and she's still alive. That's why I speak the way I speak, because I will not let them wash her out of history

as if she never existed. Wow. Dating. What advice, if a group of women were in here, and they're like, aunt, come on, auntie, talk to us. How long this date thing? Cause this is, Mo is different now. Than when you and I was-

It's different, baby. I'm grateful I'm not 56 and trying. But you tried to say, what you tried to say- I'm looking right at you, Chad. I know you looking at me, but I'm saying it. I ain't backing down. You better take your old ass and get somebody to love you. Damn, Mo!

Now I'm looking right at you. Let me tell y'all what Shannon need. Let me tell you what my baby need. He need him an old fat gal who can bake good cakes, make some smothered turkey wings, who gonna rub his feet at the night time, okay, and gonna have a sip of his cognac to make him feel better by the stuff when he come home at night. That's what Shannon need. You don't need no 26 year old girl.

You don't need no 36 year old girl. I't need no 36 year old girl I know this is your auntie talking to you take your ass and get your old bitch out there that can love your old you trying to hang out with these young bitches and you can't do it Shannon you just can't do it when they want you to go for a fourth round you looking at her like bitch listen I need you want some money to go to Starbucks because I can't go no further. But if you get your older girl, when you get to that forefront she's going to say hold on, hold on, let me go get you some eggs and cheese and some toast with apple butter because

that's going to get your energy back up. I'm talking right to you. Shit. So he thought I was going to be scared. Yes, I'm talking and I know old gal she'll be good to you. Her name is Elidora. Now when you know somebody named Elidora, she old school. Now, Miss Elidora told me to tell you. She said, I think he like red velvet. Oh, I do. I do. I say, Miss Elidora, if he do like it, she said, you let him know I got something for him.

Yeah, I like red velvet. And she don't have no teeth. Come on, pick your glass up and click Bite you okay Okay, I guess I got a couple home Come on home Shannon and y'all stop putting lies out about my brother because I was in my feelings when y'all said he didn't Date black women y'all stop that shit. You stop and then he might throw a white one in there every now and again And it's okay It's okay Cuz sometimes And it's okay. It's okay. Because sometimes, there you go, we ain't into everything. We don't do everything. So sometimes Uncle Shay-Shay need a space of life. He need to go cross the street, but he always going to come back.

That's why we said, are you open Tyler? Come on home. Come on home. Come on home. Come on home. Come on home. Sierra says, a lot of women talk about Sierra's friend, but when a God sends a good man, they don't want them.

Is that true? I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. I can't tell you. Come on home, come on home, come on home. Sierra says, a lot of women talk about Sierra's friend, but when a God sends a good man, they don't want them.

Is that true? I cannot speak for them, I can only speak for me. Cause when the universe sent mine to me, baby. You was ready. When he sent that man to me, even this morning, I thanked the universe for that man right there. Before I came on air with you, I was talking to him. I know. He said, mama, you heard me talking to you. I you. I was talking to him. I know he said mama

You heard me Because We've not been trained We've not been conditioned to understand you we've been trained to fight against you, right? We've been trained to go against you. We've watched our mamas our grandmamas our aunties speak ill of a black man So now when a black man comes any good you waiting for the bed because grandmama told you black men one shit Mama told you black one one shit your auntie said black many shit So all you have in your mind is black man ain't shitting so when you get that beautiful black man

He's now got to say to you erase everything they told you right cuz I'm here Well, you then you treat him like that if then he goes and then you talk about what he did. Now you mad cause he done went to the white girl, Shannon. Now y'all start treating Shannon good, okay? Start treating him good. Now Shannon, I got to catch my plane. Okay, this is the last one. Unless you wanna send me back on your jet.

I wish I had one, Mo. I wish I had one. But I'm gonna get y'all here on this one. See what y'all did. You heard what Shaq said. Shaq said. What'd he say? They asked Shaq, should a man open up to a woman? Shaq said no. He says because if you do, they're going to use it

against you. He said because if I break, if I'm crying about something, they're going to say the first time they get mad, they're going to say, see you crying because your daddy said what he said. How do you take advice from a man who has no woman? And I love Shaqq but how do you take advice from my brother that has no one okay if you have that person in your life and you say listen I'm dealing I'm going through who else do you talk to at nighttime in your pillow talk who else do you share your life with who are you sharing with your life with Shaq do you tell another man about your situation and does he make you feel better like who do you share your life with so I? Do you tell another man about your situation? And does he make you feel better?

Like who do you share your life with? So I don't agree with that at all. And I love my brother, but I don't agree with that. I think that makes division. Cause if I got a call, my girl, and I talk to my husband, when I heard Oprah say, and these are her words, not mine, she say when I be stressed out,

and I be going through it after the show, I will come home and Gail could calm me down and put me to sleep. What you say? What statement? Okay, then you say it. I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it.

Nope, nope. I'm gonna get Oprah on here. I'm gonna get Oprah on the show. But those are her words. So I believe that partnership is partnership all the way around. When I leave this earth, there is nothing my husband will not know about me and the other way around.

Did you know after your first two marriages, you gonna get married again? Yes, because my first two marriages were just marriages of, my first marriage was you just couldn't have the milk without buying the cow. That was the first marriage and we were boxers. We were Friday night fights. We were Friday, it wasn't domestic violence.

We was Friday night fights. I took a L sometime, but sometime I didn't. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. The second one was I couldn't afford to pay my rent. Right. And I didn't want to have a boyfriend. Right. So that's why I said this is the first time I've really been married. Right. Tell me the story that you wanted to share that nobody else knows that you were going to share with us. You're ready for this. I'm ready for it. I want you to move in. That man that was sitting right here on this couch, his name is Cat Williams. Yes. Cat Williams and I have a relationship with fraternal twins. That's all. That's it. That's it. That is my twin, my spiritual, fraternal, non biological brother. We are twins, baby. Yes, we are. That was it. That was all. Thank you. Don't

nobody know that but you can't Williams don't even know the shit. That's what makes us so beautiful. So cat, I'm gonna call it. I'm gonna call him and say, Hey, I met your sister for the very first time. I need you to tell him. Do you want to promote anything? You got anything you want to promote? Here's what I'll say.

Just keep watching. Just keep watching. I'm promoting life. Just keep watching. Just keep watching. I'm promoting life. Just keep watching. And I love y'all for real, my babies. Thank you for watching. Monique, ladies and gentlemen. Mo, thank you so much.

I really appreciate you. All my life, been grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle pay the price. Want a slice, got to roll the dice. That's why all my life I be grinding all my life. Sacrifice. I'll pay the price. Want to slice got the roll of dice. That's why all my life I've been grinding all my life. All my life. And grinding all my life. Sacrifice.

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