Club Shay Shay - MADDEN Ratings! Part 2: Unc was rated 100 in '99?!

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

Shannon Sharpe drops some knowledge on Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson by telling him about his perfect 100 rating on Madden 1999! PLUS Ocho gives all the details on how his inaugural Wide Receiver Camp that... brought together prominent NFL wideouts, including: Ja'Marr Chase, Tyreek Hill, Tee Higgins and more! 0:00 - Unc was rated 100 in 1999?!4:04 - Ocho’s NFL Wide Receiver Camp18:08 - Top 10 trash talkers of all time32:57 - Cris Carter had words for Ocho?   (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:14 What's your highest ranking, old man? What's the highest you've been ranked? The highest I've been ranked? I think if I'm not mistaken, a 98 overall. I think a 98 overall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would listen, I was if I'm not mistaken a 98 overall. I think a 98 overall. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would listen. I was that boy back in the day, man. I was that boy. I was nice. I think, you know, for me and I'm gonna be, I'm gonna really be honest with you. I don't think
Starting point is 00:02:34 people understand really how good I was unless you are really a football person because the antics and the fun and entertainment that I had, it takes away from all the hard work I actually put in to be able to pull something should I did off and I'm just being honest and that was for people even that even even the most highest analysts or those that have been watching the game for years they allow the antics and entertainment to get away from how actually how good I mean that happens because they like what and I like it I like it like that I enjoyed that I enjoyed it and that's And I like it, but I like it like that. I enjoy that.
Starting point is 00:03:06 I enjoy it and that's what I wanted to remember for. So, well, that's what happens. I mean, they say, well, he just talks, he's loud. He's braggadocious and all that. But, and so now when the NFL has started this national tight ends day and the NFL started posting clips and people like, hold on, okay, now I see why Uncle was like that for real.
Starting point is 00:03:25 You was that boy now. But here's the thing though, Ocho. See, you was a 98. I was one of the few guys that's ever been a hundo. Yeah, I've been higher than a 99. Yeah, for sure. I've been him. You was a hundie.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Run, tell that. Wait, for real? A hundie. Wait, you were run. Run. I got to shake the vote. I ain't never heard of no heart. Because normally during the game I wore red shoes because I clown fools. That's what I did. For real though, Old Joe. Let me tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to give it to you the first half. Because you're going to be jealous that I didn't give you any.
Starting point is 00:04:22 So I'm going to give it to you the second half. But all y'all gonna get it all y'all about to get all this here So don't worry about it. Don't worry about shit. Don't tell him to shut up and stop talking to me cuz I'm about to start talking to you I'm gonna hit you up, too. Oh, yeah I got to check that. I ain't never. I know you did. And after that, nobody else could ever get a Hyundai. They never, after 99, they cut it out. After 99, they cut it out.
Starting point is 00:04:52 No, no more Hyundai's. You were the last 100 there. After me, there'll be no more. Okay, I like that. I like that. It's only at 99, right? It's only, it's up there right now. They looking at it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 When they got the 99 tight end, like Gronk was 99 for a couple of years. Kelsey's been 99 for a couple of years. But the first guy up there, you better stop playing with me. I'm too big of a cat to be playing like a kitten. Somebody got to send that to my phone, man. Somebody got to send that to my phone. You working, to send that to my phone. Hold on. Hold on. That's like, that's like, hold on. That's like being
Starting point is 00:05:28 in the grocery store and starving. How the hell you go on the grocery store and starve? You work at EA. How the hell YouTube I need to send it to your phone. Yeah I work at EA but you talk about 99, 99. I was still in high school in 99 so I don't really, I gotta go back. That's how long I been kicking folk. When you was in junior high school and that and that, and so I don't really, I gotta go back. I gotta go back and check. That's how long I been kicking folks. When you was in junior high, I was cooking them. I used to go up, I keep telling you, people used to see me on the field with a pain, with a pot. They say, man, what you got in that pot? I say, I'm gonna cook you foods.
Starting point is 00:05:55 That's why I got this pot out here on the field. I'm cooking crabs today. Yeah, it's a low country boy. I got crab, I got a sausage, I got corn on the cob, I got potatoes, all you bums getting it. Sound like gumball. Yeah, I'm giving it to them. So pull up a table because I'm about to make a mess of all of you.
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Starting point is 00:07:21 at legolanddiscoverycenter.com slash Toronto. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty, and on today's episode of On Purpose, Tickets online now at legolanddiscoverycenter.com slash Toronto. I pulled out of the French Open, I flew. Pranked as number one in the world in women's singles. A four time Grand Slam tennis champ, Naomi Osaka. We would be constantly on the tennis court and I would watch other kids go to summer vacation and I would always think, dang, like, I kind of want to be someone else. What was the feeling like when you won your first Grand Slam
Starting point is 00:08:05 at the US Open. When I was growing up I had dreams of playing Serena in my first Grand Slam final it felt like a dream came true I was just reading comments of people saying that I didn't deserve to win. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the biggest party of the summer.
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Starting point is 00:08:43 From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea Ripley, and Tiffy, just to name a few, this lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and you already know a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns, and the championship moments nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show,
Starting point is 00:09:02 the storylines that explode, and those oh my God, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the My Kultura podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's jump right into it. Before we get into some topics, tell us about your Y.Camp because there's like the D. Lyman got a camp, the Tide have what they call tight end U,
Starting point is 00:09:26 and I think you started what you call wide out workout camp last week. The clip of you being emotional and grateful to the guys that showed up, in that case, chat hasn't seen it yet. We're gonna play this clip for you, take a look at it. Y'all know how much I love the game, you know how much I love y'all.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Throughout the years I've tweeted about every last one of y'all so you already know how I feel about you. They brought the idea to me, I talked to the court, I talked to some of y'all boys yesterday. And I was scared to make that call. Yes sir. Let it out man. Let it out, man.
Starting point is 00:10:06 That's what it's about. You deserve it, man. You deserve it, man. That's why we gotta come together. We're here for you, bro. Hey, it's a lot of pride. You go in a receiver position. Honestly, I thought some of the big boys
Starting point is 00:10:22 and just any of y'all, y'all busy. I'm busy. You know how that **** know that be so for you to show up in the world to me like I don't cry normally and I really ain't really shame you in front of y'all I swear to God I appreciate you swear to God and I look forward to what we do tomorrow. We're gonna keep talking, talk about the game of football. I don't wanna ruin you to death, but more wanna get into what you need to work on to improve, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:52 Where you can get back to work and feel good about something new that you got in your stove from somebody else, somebody else's game, you know, other than that. Let's all get out of this rain, man. Like, I seriously sweet y'all, man. Clap it out, y'all, clap it out, clap it out, clap it out. Hey, hey, that was dope.
Starting point is 00:11:09 That was a good feeling, a good feeling. A lot of people are probably watching with not great understanding about the love I have for the game, not just the game in general, but the craft when it comes to that artwork, when it comes to playing the position of receiver and how much I embedded and love that artistry and for those fellas to show up, for the big boys to actually show up for me, it meant a lot.
Starting point is 00:11:36 It meant a lot. For one, for me to be so far removed from the game and to want to help those that are still playing and finding tweaks and things that they can improve on and add to their game. There's nothing that we have as a collective group as receivers, we can all get together under one umbrella and talk about the game of football, talk about route running and anything that comes along with that. Ways to manipulate defenses, ways to give illusions that you run at full speed then when you really not.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Just little tricks in the trade of the craft in itself and boy showed up. They showed up because I look at them as a fan. I don't look at them as Ocho that's already played. I look at them in awe. I'm looking up to them and they tried to get me to see, fool, you tripping. We look up to you because we still studying your stuff from way back then. But I don't view myself like that or in that light, which is why the emotion and the tears came from. Like I can't believe it. They actually showed up. T Higgins, Jamal Chase, Corla's son, Jerry. We talk about people that are
Starting point is 00:12:46 already established in the league that have got their big paydays. They ain't got they don't have to come out here. They don't have to. But it's a testament. Forget them coming for me a testament where they are with their game and wanting to improve and get better at their craft and what they do. Well, you want to get better. I mean, if they have it, I guarantee you, if they have a convention and they invite
Starting point is 00:13:09 the top 100 tech guys, I guarantee you they're gonna show up because Iron Shopping's iron. You know, we got to get out of this illusion where I don't want to give away no secrets. I don't want to give away no secrets. And I'm trying to do this. I keep this to myself. What good is all this knowledge if you hoard it?
Starting point is 00:13:24 Somebody had to, you, I don't care what any receiver tells you, he did not learn or forget the position. He did not learn everything on his own. He got it from somewhere. So when instead of you sharing it, you want to hoard it. Now what if somebody would have done that to you? What if somebody would have hoarded that information and teach you how to bend and how to dip?
Starting point is 00:13:46 Yeah. Or somebody teach you how to snatch pull? So now you get the information, but see, that's how we are. See, a lot of times, Ocho, we'll get up. Now we'll use the ladder to get up. And once we get up, we'll pull the ladder up to make sure nobody else get up there with us. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:14:03 How many times have we seen that? We see it a lot. I ain't gonna get political with you, but we see a lot of that. A lot of people came through immigration. Now they got over here, kick that ladder down. You ain't getting up here. I'm here now, so damn you.
Starting point is 00:14:19 And a lot of times athletes have that same mentality. Somebody in part take, and maybe it wasn't publicly. Maybe it was a private setting. Now, someone in part gave you wisdom and knowledge and understanding. You wanna pretend like you got that all on your own. Yeah. What I like most about you,
Starting point is 00:14:41 because a lot of times these guys forget that there was somebody before them. And it seems like if it didn't happen in the internet age, it didn't happen. Right. Oh, man, I don't know about that guy. When I got got 100 and something, 100 and something touchdown, that guy have 15, 16, 17,000 yards. Oh, you thought they just started playing wide receiver like 30 years ago?
Starting point is 00:15:02 Right. I like sometimes, sometimes not all there's no such thing as all every guys forget about taking women out of this. You can talk about the WNBA. We'll talk about that a later date and time. I'm just talking about men in professional sport. It's almost like we want to poo poo. The one thing that I've never done is I'd never forgot the guys that laid the foundation. From the Mackys to the Dickas to the Aussies to the Winslow's the Secas to the Jackie Smith, guys like that Raymond Chesters.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I know the history of that position. I know the history of the tight end position and of the NFL. So therefore I'm greatly, greatly appreciative. But that was great. That was really great to see. I'm glad you got an opportunity to that. Hopefully, hopefully, you can get sponsors like we see at Tidy and You. And it gets bigger and bigger and better and better year after year. So that kudos to you. Yeah, most definitely. We had taken time out of your busy schedule. Yeah. And say, you know
Starting point is 00:16:03 what, guys, I want to bring you guys together and impart take some of the wisdom that I've been given over the course of the years. And maybe, maybe only one to two people got something out of what you said or what someone else said. Yeah. But that was success because that was information they wouldn't have gotten had they not been there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:22 It was dope. And my favorite part of the two days that we had together was sitting there talking obviously to Jerry, I'm talking to Elijah Moore, KJ Osborne, all them boys, but the greatest conversation that I really enjoyed was me, Uno, obviouslyar, Chase, Jerry, Judy and court and Coraline sudden. And we had a 30 minute discussion on I'm talking about, I'm talking about a good 30 on ways to beat Pat Surtain Jr. Hey, we saw he saw he saw us. I swear to God, the first thing they all say, Judy, he's so long. He's so patient.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Chase say anything short you're not you're not're not going to be able to run it. And the conversation about Pat is a testament to him to how great he is and how good he is. And of course, I said what I could. We went back and forth. It was a great dialogue on that. Then they all talked about the other DBS that are very, very difficult, not as long, but technically sound and savvy.
Starting point is 00:17:23 They talked about Denzel Ward and how difficult Chase talks about how difficult it is to go to Denzel Ward. Yeah. When you play him, you got to be on your P's and Q's. They talked about Stingley. When you play Stingley, you got to be on your P's and Q's. Obviously there are other great deeps and backs in the NFL, but the way those dudes praise Pat Surtain, Stanley and Denzel Ward,
Starting point is 00:17:46 man, it was wonderful, wonderful. The thing to help Pat, who is his dad? So his dad was a pro bowler. Yes, sir. So he had great, so the first thing I noticed about Pat Surtain when he got to Alabama, I say this for a freshman, this dude is technically sound like he should be in the league already.
Starting point is 00:18:07 You look at him and there's no wasted motion. There ain't nothing. There ain't no, you know, he try, hey, boom, if you release inside, boom. Bam. I'm like, damn, he technically sound. Damn ain't no wasted motion. I mean, he damn, he technically sound. Damn ain't no wasting motion. I mean, he get, he, bam. And when that back foot plant, he driving.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Yeah, every time. But as he talked about, we had him on Ocho and he was one of the defensive player of the year and we talked to him. He said, look, study. I'm looking at formations. I'm looking at splits. I'm looking at down in distance.
Starting point is 00:18:42 I'm looking at area of the field. I'm also looking at, okay, the personnel, all that. That's why you need to be smart as a football player because you got to be able to process that in an instant. Instantly, yeah. He who hesitate in sports is beat. Yeah. It's a game of inches.
Starting point is 00:18:59 You know, and in the NFL, unless it's a blown coverage, you throw people open. And these guys in this league are good enough And in the NFL, unless it's a blown coverage, you throw people open. And these guys in this league are good enough to throw a receiver open. So you can't waste motion because the really good receivers are not going to waste motion. Hey, all that dropping your arms,
Starting point is 00:19:21 hey, you telling the DB I'm about to stop. All that, I'm about to break, you telling him. The ball going the other way. And you guys, you guys were telling, hey dude, I'm about to run this out. Break on it. Yeah. Because that's what's gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:19:35 So it was great to see you in that environment, Ocho. I know you love, you love everything about coaching except coaching yourself, cause you damn sure ain't gonna put those, you wanna put that kind of hours in and be on... That's what time is tonight. No, no, no. I want you to come out there and talk to him during the summer.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You and you ain't going to be no coach. Yeah, but listen, I can't coach in a structured environment, but when it comes to talking the game of actually route running, getting open, understanding what's across from you and how to beat it, now that I can do. Now that I can do- But you know what I noticed, Ocho? What about the run blocking? I ain't see you do none of that. Oh, hey, I'm glad you said it. I'm glad you said that. Now if you look at my stats statistically, this is one of the things that really aren't shown statistically. I'm the greatest run
Starting point is 00:20:18 blocker in the history of the NFL. Oh Lord, that is not true. I'm just telling you. I'm just telling you. Now, when you think about blocking, everyone thinks about a physical specimen when it comes to playing receiver. Sometimes the indicator is just being who you are in general. Yeah. And all I got to do, sometimes I ain't got to touch nobody. I just run off and I take three people with me. Well, I think the thing is for the, you look at the West Coast, you look at West Coast offense, those guys got a block or you're not getting the ball. You look at a guy like a Heinz Ward Who made his name?
Starting point is 00:20:53 End up catching the thousand passes he was known as a blocker he was physical I mean the hands he took pride He's like when y'all try to tear my head off, when I got the ball in my arms, now I get an opportunity to peel your cap, I'm peeling it all the way back to the white meat. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Now you said Heinz Wolff was physical. Now that's not to take nothing away from me.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Now I was a very physical blocker too now. That's it you gave. It's not my game, but it was, I had it in my repertoire when I hit it for me. Yeah, yeah. It's a tool that you didn't use so you know how people got a toolbox and they got all the tools in there and they only use the flat handle the Phillips head screwdriver they use the vice grips they use the monkey
Starting point is 00:21:40 wrench and it uses just Maria that's it when they got a hundred apparatus is in there but at the end of the day, it's all about getting the job done. Yes. Whether you, whether you got, if you got force, you push that corner and then come down on it because they don't let you crack no more, Ocho. It's hard.
Starting point is 00:21:54 It's getting harder and harder to block because you know, you used to be able to push that, push the corner and then see that safety creeping down there. And bang. And then go down and crack them. Nah, they blind side,, what do they call it? Blindside block, the fist, bam. Head on the swivel, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:10 All you gotta do, you just stand in the way, fold your arms. Oh, you gotta move because the pile will get you. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The pile, you gotta worry about that pile, so you gotta keep your feet moving because you know, hey, we all done been rolled up on. Yeah, keep them feet turned.
Starting point is 00:22:23 And it ain't no damn fun. keep moving because you know, hey, we all been rolled up on. Yeah, keep them. And it ain't no damn fun. Ocho, foot pro football addict, name the top 10 trash talkers in NFL history. This list is bulljive because yours truly isn't on it. Number one, Chad Ocho Cinco. Number two, Smitty Steve Smith Sr.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Three, Richard Sherman. Number four, me. Number five, Dion. Number six, Smitty, Steve Smith Sr. Three, Richard Sherman. Number four, me. Number five, Dion. Number six, Phillip Rivers. Number seven, T.O. Number eight, Suggs. Number nine, Ray Lewis. Number 10, Courtland Sutton.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I feel I should be number one, but- Whoa, whoa, whoa, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I know you feel you should be number one. I should. Hey, I know you feel you should be number one, but you have to understand. You have to understand. The art of trash talking is me. It represents me.
Starting point is 00:23:10 If the art of trash talking was in the dictionary, there would be a picture of me. You were great at trash talking. You were great at it. You were great. Let me, let me, let me stay with me now. You were great at it. But you have to understand, I took it to levels
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Starting point is 00:24:15 activities, experiences, and even some fresh new dance moves. Enjoy the ultimate indoor LEGO playground with rides, a 4-day theatre, and millions of LEGO bricks at LEGO Land Discovery Center. Build the best day ever with your family by getting tickets online now at legolanddiscoverycenter.com slash Toronto. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty and on today's episode of On Purpose, I'm joined by four-time Grand Slam champion Naomi Osaka. What I was dealing with at the time, feeling ashamed, going against everything an athlete stood for. After I pulled out of the French Open, I flew. Pranked as number one in the world in women's singles. A four-time grand
Starting point is 00:24:56 slam tennis champ Naomi Osaka. We would be constantly on the tennis court and I would watch other kids go to summer vacation. And I would always think, dang, like, I kind of want to be someone else. What was the feeling like when you won your first Grand Slam at the US Open? When I was growing up, I had dreams of playing Serena in my first Grand Slam final.
Starting point is 00:25:20 It felt like a dream came true. I was just reading comments of people saying that I didn't deserve to win. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the biggest party of the summer. WWE SummerSlam is here and Wrestling with Freddie is all over it. We're talking wild matches, big surprises, and our boldest predictions yet.
Starting point is 00:25:43 From celebrity showdowns to the chaos inside a steel cage, we're breaking down every match and calling who we think walks out on top. This card is loaded. From Cody Rhodes, John Cena, Rhea Ripley, and Tiffy, just to name a few, this lineup is ready to tear down the house. We'll give you our unfiltered takes, honest debates, and you already know a ton of laughs along the way. We're covering the upsets, the wild returns,
Starting point is 00:26:06 and the championship moments nobody expects. We'll get into the matches that steal the show, the storylines that explode, and those oh my god, did that just happen moments that make SummerSlam legendary. Don't miss it. Listen to Wrestling with Freddie as part of the My Kultura podcast network. Find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts,
Starting point is 00:26:24 or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, there's a certain entertainment value to the trash talk that I provided. I was talking trash, right? Let me stay with me real quick, just real quick. On a losing team, and I can fill a stadium with my trash talk alone. So the seats, we sold out because they come to see
Starting point is 00:26:43 what I'm going to do based off what I said. You see what I'm saying? You see what I'm going to do? Yeah, come on, come on now. Stay with me now. This is different. So when I play away, they come in to see what he's going to do next based off of what he said. Now the pressure was on me to be able to make sure I gave people their money's worth after I did all the talking. That's pressure in itself. So yeah, I'm not taking nothing away from you are great at what you did. But it just I just had a different aspect and different entertainment value to my trash. What clip do they show all the time?
Starting point is 00:27:16 Calling the National Guard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You realize I had a coach a coach resigned and a player got suspended because I was trash talking. Right a player got suspended because I was trash talking. Right. I got you. I got you. But you got to understand.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Listen, I lost money behind my entertainment and trash talking. I send gifts to my opponents and secondaries to elevate the level of trash talk. The bravado in which I brought to the game is a little different. Now you did, you used, hey listen, you was phenomenal. You have to remember I did it in a losing effort, in a losing atmosphere. Uh huh. Just to make it fun for those watching and those attending. I need to be mic'd up more when I was getting into it.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Cause you know, Ocho, you realize like, you don't talk as much when you mic'd up, because the simple fact is, people gonna think, oh, he don't do that much talking. He just doing this because he mic'd up. See the difference is right. Notice I never wore a mouthpiece. I just, I didn't wear a mouthpiece because I need to be able to converse with you throughout the entirety of the game. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah. And the problem is, this is the thing I'm not talking. I think you talk, Steve Smith talked trash to get the person angry. Yeah. Richard Sherman talked trash to get the person angry. Cam Newton, I saw his little clip earlier about him being the best trash talker and said he gets people upset. I'm not trying to get you upset.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I don't want you mad. I want you happy. I just need to see if you can engage with me and converse with me in the middle of a game, I got you mentally. I just need to see if you can engage with me and converse with me in the middle of the game. I got you mentally right you already be I don't care what I don't care what you get you get mad you get happy at the end of the day right bro, right tight is tidy. What's up?
Starting point is 00:28:56 What tight is where you've been at what would they do twin? You supposed to be holding it down. So who did show up for work? That's what I need to know who did show up for work. Huh? Oh, tidy. Look at my dog, man. My dog chilling, man. Where your brother? Say, I got another brother here. Where you got another one? Yeah, not his side. Oh no, they eat too much. Oh boy. Where we at? Uh
Starting point is 00:29:31 man, you ain't you ain't you ain't even let me see him. Hold on. Thanos. Wait, you named him Thanos? Yeah. Well, god damn, he that big? Where do you see him? Cheryl, bring Thanos. Oh boy know that I know that Joker big how much way about 160 That table oh pounds That ain't hello everybody, my name is Thanos
Starting point is 00:29:59 Well, he ain't gonna grow no more. Yeah, do you eat maxed out? Oh Joe? He ain't gonna grow no more? Yeah, he maxed out, Ocho. That's it? You gotta give him a better name than that, like Peewee. Nah, he don't wanna be no Peewee. He say, I'm big. He say, I run stuff around here. He say, time to get a bone, I take it.
Starting point is 00:30:15 I'm like that. What happened to Teddy Bear? Teddy Bear on the couch. How did they get along? Man, he be harassing Teddy Bear like something crazy. When I had the other one, I had Baby. Teddy Bear was a nuisance, was a menace. I mean, the other one couldn't get no peace.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Now all he doing is repaying the favor. Okay, okay, I got it, I got it, I got it. I like that, I like that. But how much, I don't mean to be in your pocket. But how much that was though? No, you get focused. Huh? I ain't, I don't mean to be in your pocket. What about how much that was there? No, you get focused. Huh? I don't mean to be in your pocket. I'm just curious how much that was there.
Starting point is 00:30:51 You know, you look look look something you know, so I can't tell you where I got it from cuz you know, it'll been a tariff on it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I understand.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I know that I noticed you really want to answer that question. I'm still trying to I just want to know the numbers on that's it. It looks up looks up, you know, look, you know, look treat myself. I ain't really want to answer that question. I'm still trying to I just want to know the numbers on it. That's it. You know, so, you know, look, you know, look, treat myself. I bought myself, you know, OK, OK, OK, the same the same range, the same BMW. So, you know, you know what? Let me get myself some. I bought a watch.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I bought no clothing. And so, you know, right. Right. That was my that was my birthday gift that I got. OK. But listen, listen, listen, listen. I told you, I told you, I got a dude out of Liberty City, right? I got a dude in Liberty City gets you everything exotic from animals to dogs to pets to, to, to, to, I could, I could have got you that. I could have got you that for 200. Now I'm just saying, what's that?
Starting point is 00:31:43 A teacup, right? Teacup, pom-pom? No, he's regular size. He's not going to get much bigger than that. Teacups, I mean, teacups, they'd be like three pounds. They have a lot of health issues. You said he was four pounds though. He's four pounds. He'll probably top out at about six. Okay, okay. That's cool. I got my dog. My dog in Liberty City is named Lonzo. You need to get you a puppy. You need to get you something to keep you grounded.
Starting point is 00:32:06 You travel too much. I can't do that. All my furniture white here. I don't want no dogs running around here. I ain't got no time for that. Everything in here is white. You know you can train an animal, right? Yeah, I ain't got that kind of time.
Starting point is 00:32:19 I ain't got that kind of time, baby. All right, so the top 10 trash talkers. Ocho is number one. Smitty number two. Shurm three. Myself is four. Time is five. Phillip Rivers.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Now, if you think about it, a quarterback has made the list. Hey, he be, he don't curse, but he funny though. He be talking. Dog it. Hey, with that one, when you threw that touchdown against Jacksonville and he screamed at the whole guys ear. Hey, hey, hey, ref. Tell
Starting point is 00:32:46 him that's true. Okay. I will scream in your ear. No, you won't. Tio, Suggs, Sugar, and Cortland Fidigan. Oh yeah. That's that's a nice little list. It's a nice list. It is. It is. I mean, sure, I'm sure some people will look at the list. They will disagree with the numerical. Oh, I got one. John Randall. You gotta have Johnny on that's that's a good Johnny on here Johnny, Johnny came out. We came out the same the same draft in 1990 Johnny was a people don't know this but Johnny was a free agent Johnny got drafted as a 230 power defense 230
Starting point is 00:33:20 He was 230 at the defense alignment Oh, yeah and turned himself into the what one of the great DTs that had a Relentless motor. Yes, sir Yeah, DT even night. They were nice bar Apparently cam called us out to think he's a better trash talk. Let's listen to what cam had to say When it comes to putting these nouns of verbs, uh-huh You know I'm saying putting it together It comes down and just being witty
Starting point is 00:33:49 You dig it up. Yeah I'm trying to tell you Peggy sometimes you got a point your toes east and west to let everybody know who's the actual best and I know disrespect to Uncle Shay and Chad Chadwick Johnson. But they would have hated me because I'm gonna get personal. You feel what I'm saying? You're gonna do some recent.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Oh yeah, we got to do that. I don't fight fair. I don't talk fair. But there's some truth behind everything that I say and that's where I willing to go Man, I say some old try to make your kids hate me You see you see that see he's he's talking trash trying to get under someone's skin That's not the type of trash talk. I did I talked trash in an entertainment value way For fun to have fun to let you know, we gonna compete.
Starting point is 00:34:48 See that just talking I went I took it the extra mile. Do people not realize the week before a game I FedEx the secondaries gifts as a small way to taunt in a certain way, nothing malicious, but to have fun. That was a token of your appreciation. Exactly, to let you know I'm thinking of you. D'Angelo, I sent them boys in Atlanta, I sent them gifts. You know, obviously we know what I did for the Steelers. I had a sponsorship with Degree Deodorant.
Starting point is 00:35:25 I sent the Raven Secondary. I sent in Degree Deodorant as a gift, cause y'all stink. Cause you're gonna be stinkin' when I'm done with you. Like that's all fun and love and you know, before a game, so that's his type of trash talk. What I'm doing is completely do two different sides to the spectrum. But I respect what he did. But he is nothing, not even close. We're not in the same stratosphere
Starting point is 00:35:51 when it comes to talking trash. Because for me, like I said, I went to an HBCU. Come on, that's all you go to an HBCU. I don't know who's out there listening that has been to an HBCU. But if you can't Joan, you can't. You ain't gonna survive. You can't survive. You ain't gonna survive. I mean, I'm a, y'all heard me going back and forth. I'm talking about, we just,
Starting point is 00:36:16 if this ain't no, you know, hey, I don't know who I'm gonna talk trash to in the game. It all depends on who starts talking trash back or who started first. Right. I'm gonna get it started, I'm gonna say something and I'm gonna see, I will keep going until I, hey, I'm gonna turn the door handle until see which one's open.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Cause a lot of them be locked, don't you? They ain't gonna say nothing to you. But I'm gonna keep, hey, everybody don't lock their doors at night. You know what I'm saying? If somebody run down on you, cause you know, it used to be in the 70s and early, the 70s and 80s, you could sleep with your door open,
Starting point is 00:36:45 let alone lock. Yeah. But now people get crazy after dark. You gotta keep your hand on your thing. So with that being said, everybody locking the doors, but not everybody, somebody go forget. Oh yeah. Cause they thought somebody else locked the door.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And oh, that's when I turned to handling and be going on in. Yeah. But Cam, look, I know you good. I know you good at putting things together, you know, adverbs and predicates and pronouns and on in. Yeah. But Cam, look, I know you good. I know you good at putting things together, you know, adverbs and predicates and pronouns and adjectives. Mm-mm. Oh, no. But when it comes, when it comes, when it comes to lip-sparring, I'm talking about jump. What? Hey, just, hey, just go. Yeah. Talk to him, Monk. Hey, and
Starting point is 00:37:24 Cam, that's another thing. You worried about who's the better trash talker. Yeah, I need to be practicing Madden. That's what you need to be doing. You need to be practicing Madden, because I'm still waiting on that smoke, all that talking you're doing. And matter of fact, I got the new Madden already.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I got Madden 26. So you practice it by the time, so when he get it, you're going to be proficient at it. Matter of fact, the funny thing about it is, I am the best gamer. I'm the best Madden player in the world. I have an advantage over everyone else because I'm a part of the production of the game in itself. So the fact that people think they can beat me, it's almost laughable.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Like I told you, Cam, Cam and Dez Brian, I love them fellas. They play for recreation. I play video games as a way of life. It's, I love them fellas. They play for recreation. I play video games as a way of life. It's how I pay my bills. That's why I don't understand when they come at me talk about beating me in a video game. What you talking about? My life getting cut off if I'm playing for bills.
Starting point is 00:38:16 You think I'm gonna miss my light bill and my mortgage? Cause you think you're gonna beat me and Matt? Man, nigga. Well, my life's getting cut off. I ain't got no central heating and cooling because if I got to play video games to pay bills, ain't nothing jumping off. No.
Starting point is 00:38:36 I mean, the only thing I probably can play, I probably can't even play. Oh, Joe, I mean, I think I played, like, I used to play Ms. Pac-Man, play Josh or something like that, but I was, I mean, we didn't have no video. I mean, we could I played like I used to play miss Pac-Man, play Josh or something like that. But I was, I mean, we have no video. I mean, we could go to the arcade. We get a couple of quarters. We go with my sister, we go wash clothes
Starting point is 00:38:53 and they would have some video games or pool table, something like that. But I was, nah, nah, shootin' pool now. Oh, you know how to shoot? I beat Efron Reyes, beat Minnesota fast. They called me Slim. I'm in the pool now. Oh, you in the house. You got to show me. Best in the house, Ocho. You got to show me because pool is what I do. Pool is what I do. Listen, you know what they used to call me?
Starting point is 00:39:32 I used to play at the pool hall right on 54th street, right off of 12th Avenue. They used to call me sugar cane. My pool stick looked like sugar cane. It was green. My pool stick was green sugar cane. It was green. Yeah. My pool stick was green. They called it sugar cane. You green if you think you could beat me. But you can't beat Slim. You can't beat Georgia Slim. Don't do it to yourself, please.
Starting point is 00:39:53 You can't beat Georgia Slim. Who you think? I beat Fats. I beat Minnesota Fats. Come on now. Ask about me out here in the city, man. When it come to, hey listen, when it come to the pool pool table, when it come to ping pong, that's what I do. When it come to handball, that's what I do.
Starting point is 00:40:11 I beat Isha out of you in table tennis. Boy, boy listen, boy. Boy, I told you they call me sugar cane. I had a green pool stick. They call me sugar cane. I'm a green pool stick. They call me I'm gonna catch you one day. I'm you ain't got your you ain't you ain't you ain't a real you ain't a real pool player. You're in the house. Hey, hey, I'm a shark, man.
Starting point is 00:41:00 They call me when they they call me when somebody at the pool hall that think they're good. I'll let you win a couple of games. They let you bet the money. Then I come in and whoop whoop. Nah, come on man. Tighten up. Ocho, while we're away, there's some people that have some words for you. For me? Chris Carter has some words for Ocho last week. He said there were points. Oh, yep. He said there were points in Chad's career that you had to go out there and tell him what to do
Starting point is 00:41:21 because he couldn't get open to save his life. He couldn't get open against average guys. Chad Johnson scored double digit touchdowns one time in his 11 years. I think I scored double digit touchdowns six times. Scoring the football is the number one play as a receiver. No, I was not a burner. I read four six four six five but can do it every single day. Can do it for four quarters and the consistent at it.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Ocho? You know what that get? Child please. What are we talking about? I don't know, I'm just trying to figure out what- I have a question before you even go. What the hell is that matter? What does it matter?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Okay, you scored double digit touchdowns. Okay, cool. You want a cookie? Right. Okay. Julio Jones. What brought this on? Have you had a conversation with,
Starting point is 00:42:16 have you had a conversation with Cece? No, I don't need to. I have a question. So, right? I heard also, he said, well, he only had double digit touchdowns one season, so he's not a Hall of Famer. But does that mean Julio Jones is not a Hall of Famer either? Because Julio Jones only had double digit touchdowns one season. You had dumb, you had dumb that sounds?
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah. Well, sometimes I listen to things and everyone's situation is different, you know? Everyone's situation different. I mean, so stuff like that, I pay it no mind because everything is predicated off numbers and based on what they did, based on other people's situations were different. Obviously where I was, I did the best I could with the cards I was dealt and I did one hell of a goddamn job. I don't care about what you did. I don't care about your numbers
Starting point is 00:43:07 It don't make it don't make me none. Why is my name even being brought up? That's what I was that's what I'm trying to figure out. I don't know why I was brought up I don't cuz like I said, oh Joe me I Don't really listen to anybody else's podcast. I got enough thing to try to you know to try to Make our podcast better than what it is and I got up thing to try to, you know, to try to make our podcast better than what it is. And I got club Shayshae, so I'm trying to get gas. And I'm going with the book is like, okay, who do you think we should get?
Starting point is 00:43:31 Blah, blah, blah. So I don't really have time to pay attention, but it just kept popping up not only on, kept popping up on Twitter. And then I saw it on the internet. I'm like, okay, what brought this about? I said, did Ocho say something about him or what transpired? For one, you know, I don't talk about people.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Let's start with- We definitely don't talk about people that do what we do. Never. And you know, I don't talk about nobody, you know? But congratulations on everything you said. I'm happy for you, Chris Cardi, your double digit touchdowns and your Hall of Fame and all that other good Stuff. I love you. I wish you content continue success and whatever it is you got going on, baby
Starting point is 00:44:11 I know what we doing over here, though. I Know I know I know I know I'm going It may be going I'm going that way what maybe he wanted you to respond. I did respond. I just said I love him No, but I'm saying I thought I mean, I think maybe he wanted you to respond. I didn't respond. I just said I love him. No, but I'm saying I thought, I mean, I think maybe he wanted you to respond in a different way. And then it goes back and forth. I ain't got time for that. Look, Otooto got to grow.
Starting point is 00:44:32 First of all, you got kids, I got kids. I got grandkids. I'm not fitting to go, look, what we did, we can't he can't go back and score no more touchdowns. You can't go back and score no more touchdowns. Okay, we right here. Hey, hold on. I'm still scoring touchdowns right now. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Yes, you doing that great job. Oh man. I'm still scoring touchdowns in life. He played I don't care about that. I'm scoring double-digit touchdowns right now. Yeah, sure when we played, I don't care about that. I'm scoring double digit touchdowns right now. Yeah, for sure. Come on, man. You not see, you not hear where I'm coming from.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I hear what you're saying. I know. I know. But that's my thing is that sometimes we get called up and talk about what we used to do. We all were great. What you doing now? Talk to me.
Starting point is 00:45:22 What you doing now? We were all great at once upon a time in our own right. Okay. You know, you did what you did. I think CC played 16 seasons. Wait, how many how many played 16? How many I played?
Starting point is 00:45:40 I don't know. Hell you played. I think you played level to 12. Did you 11? How many AR played 11? He played 16. How many are how many yards you got? Out man. Look here. I'm just I'm just asking.
Starting point is 00:45:53 I'm just trying. I'm trying to get a better understand. How many yards you got? I don't ask. Ask. Ask. How many yards does a CC have? But okay
Starting point is 00:46:09 The chat says CC snapped because he was pissed at Ocho for saying that he could beat Travis in a one-on matchup 10 out of 10 times Why is he worried about bro? We'd just be joking when we say stuff man. It ain't that serious He knew that he knew that because I do the same thing with everybody. He just you do you. You just like as I said, can you not challenge everybody that come on here? Oh you you everybody that come on here can get that work. You hit me and Travis. He said a check below 14000 yards. He had 13 899 yards. So he played 15 season 16. I think 16 and he got what
Starting point is 00:46:45 13,000 yards almost 14,000. Okay, so he plays 1516. He only got 3000 more yards than me and played five more seasons. I had 11. I guess yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm just trying to get a better understanding on on why. Okay, cool. Anyway, but like I was saying, anybody that come on this show, I had the utmost confidence in my ability and being able to do any and everything. That's something that a lot of people in this world lack.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Even if you feel you can't do it, you have to feel you can because everything starts up here in the mind. So everybody that comes over here, regardless of what sport they play or whatever it is that they do, I feel I can beat them. And if you feel if you feel you can beat me doing at what you do best,
Starting point is 00:47:30 whatever it may be, you gonna have to show me. You have to show me. Matter of fact, Chris Carter, I lock Chris Carter ass up right now. Talk about what he did. You sure he's 60? Huh? He's 60. What that mean? He talking like he still got it. Get out here. Get on the field. Line it 60. He's 60. What that mean?
Starting point is 00:47:45 He talking like he still got it. Get out here. Get on the field. Line it up. Put your cleats on. I'll lock your ass up too. Hit man trap is on him. We got to pulse.
Starting point is 00:47:54 That's what we got. So we breathing. We walking. We get up out of bed. We got our right mind, blood running warm in our veins. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:48:02 See, this is the thing about it. One thing about the wide receiver camp, the workshop that I just had, is I'm not just talking. I'm not just saying what it should look like. Uncle, I'm not there with my cleats and my shoes on, what? Out there running full speed, I still got it, you hear me? So it's one thing, once you go back in that structured environment,
Starting point is 00:48:20 you know where the X is the nose, you have a receiver coach, they actually never played, never really played the game. They just know the game based on paper and what it should look like. Yeah. you know what the X's know that you have a receiver coach that actually never played, never really played the game. They just know the game based on paper and what it should look like. Yeah. Like I'm not there
Starting point is 00:48:33 running around with you. I'm not only just I'm not telling you what it should look like. I can actually display it and show you. Boy, this is this is Picasso. Yeah. I would say this love. Um I've known Cece a long time. His brother and I used to hang with the Super Bowls and stuff. I would just say this, Cece know when the man joking.
Starting point is 00:48:52 He wasn't that serious. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Cece, I love you, baby, but put them cleats on. Put them cleats on. I'm going to show you. Double digit touchdown. I put these two hands on your chest, boy. You won't catch shit. Ah, come on. Why is this taking so long? This thing is ancient. Still using yesterday's tech? Upgrade to the ThinkPad X1 Carbon.
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