Club Shay Shay - Megan Thee Stallion

Episode Date: July 1, 2024

Three-time Grammy Award-winning artist Megan Thee Stallion joins Shannon Sharpe at Club Shay Shay for an in-depth and heartfelt conversation about her meteoric rise in the music industry. They discuss her groundbreaking achievements, including headlining her first arena tour and setting the highest attendance record for a female rapper at Madison Square Garden. Megan opens up about her journey, the importance of authenticity, the sisterhood she shares with fellow female artists, and the challenges she has faced along the way. Shannon begins by taking a moment to apologize for a past joke, leading to a heartfelt exchange between the two. The conversation shifts to Megan's journey in the music industry. She discusses her experiences with creative control, collaboration, and overcoming challenges, including the difficulties of sample clearances and the importance of maintaining a positive outlook. Megan delves into the joys and difficulties of being her own boss, the value of writing her own verses, and the collaborative process in music. Megan talks about her studio habits, interactions with other artists, and memorable studio sessions. She reveals her admiration for Billie Eilish and her brother Finneas, her experiences working with artists like Cardi B and Victoria Monét, and her admiration for Beyoncé. Megan recounts meeting Beyoncé and the surreal experience of collaborating with her on the "Savage" remix. She emphasizes the importance of manifesting her dreams and feeling supported by her team at Roc Nation. Shannon and Megan also discuss her love for reality TV, the importance of staying grounded, and the resilience that has driven her success. Megan shares insights into her personal growth, the challenges she has faced, and the support system that has helped her navigate the music industry. Join Shannon Sharpe and Megan Thee Stallion for an inspiring episode filled with honesty, insider stories, and insights from one of the most influential artists in music today. Whether you're a die-hard fan of Megan Thee Stallion or simply enjoy candid conversations, this episode of Club Shay Shay is essential listening.   #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Because you gotta know what I want. I ain't gonna never let nobody shortchange me. Man, you do realize a million dollars for a diamond is a lot? Yes. F*** a man. I do things that make me happy. I was talking s***. I've been grinding all my life, all my life. Been grinding all my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Want to slice.

Got to roll the dice. That's why all my life I've been grinding all my life. Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Shea Shea. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shea Shea. And today we're at Spotlight LA. The young lady that's stopping by for conversation and a drink today is a three-time Grammy Award-winning recording artist, one of the most influential people in the world.

She's the first woman in history to have three number one streaming songs in the same season. She's the first solo female rapper to debut at the top Billboard Global Chart 200. She's also the first black female to appear on the cover of Forbes 30 under 30. One of the rap's hardest stars, Houston Rays, multi-platinum songwriter, a talented dancer, arena performing artist, a model actor, college graduate, global superstar, a mogul in the making, an icon for women empowerment, philanthropist, a boss, the trailblazer, a role model to many. She embodies supreme self-confidence, a true national treasure. The CEO of the hot girl summer, the hottest girl herself, Meg D'Estaing.

Wow. I don't even know how to- How you doing? Wow. Did I do you right? That was amazing. I love that. Well, thank you. Meg, before we go any further, I want to apologize to you personally. I always wanted to sit down and have a conversation with you. I didn't know that was going to be possible, but I was always hoping

that I got an opportunity to bump into you because I made a comment. I think it was like September, October, and I told a joke and I said it in jest, but I believe the joke would have been just as funny had I left you out of it. So for any unwanted attention, harm, shame, embarrassment that I caused you or your family I want to say as a man as I sit here before you I apologize. I appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you You know with everyone anytime someone comes on the show We have to toast because you have an amazing you you you've been amazing and you have an amazing career going forward So this is my personal cognac shaped by Laporte a okay. Say by Laportez Balaportier? That's what it's called, Chez Balaportier.

Let me know what you... Hey. Okay, because you know I'm the cognac queen. Okay, okay. I don't know if you know that. Okay, you nose it? This is what they call it. It's called nosing.

You saw me. Okay. I have to... Hold on. Okay. I was waiting on it to really, like, sting me. It's smooth, ain't it? It's smooth.

Okay. Yeah. I was waiting on it to tear me out. No, no, no, no, no, no. We don't do that. Okay. I like that. You know what?

We're going to send you away with a bottle with your very own. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate this. Check this out. You know what? We're going to send you away with a bottle with your very own. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I really appreciate this. Check this out. You know what? Congratulations on your first headline, Arena.

Yeah. Arena. Arena. Arena tour. How does it feel? Because there are a lot of, I mean, Maggie's okay, but she, you know, small. She can't do no arena. Yeah.

How does it feel to shut those down? And she can't do no arena. Yeah. How does it feel to shut those down? I feel really appreciative that I have so many hotties that want to come see me do my thing. Like, I performed my whole body of work on this tour. Right. And just to see how many people want to come out and turn up with me in their cowboy hats and their chaps and their anime clothes. I'm like, yes, cosplay.

All my hotties is just fine. And we had a blast. And we're still having a blast. We're still on tour. You're the first female rapper hold on you hold the highest descent attendance at madison square garden over 14 000 yeah let that sink in now there have been a lot of women that are thinking there have been a lot of female rappers that have performed at the msg that's the hot bit i mean there's no big arena in america than msg you the highest attendance what how does that make you feel meg it made me feel like i must be doing something right right um it just made me feel

really good when i went in there i saw a lot of hotties that i had seen before because i've been performing in new york for a long time right so when i came and i saw like my day one new york people like in the pit like screaming and cheering for me people were giving me my flowers i was like wow me from the south i'm out here in New York really killing shit like this I was so happy did you know that was possible or were you were you a little apprehensive like I know I know I got the hits I know I produce good music I know they like me but MSG filling up an arena did you think that was possible were you a little nervous well little nervous? Well, it's nothing that I never thought I couldn't do. Like, I didn't get this tour and think, damn, I ain't going to be able to sell seats.

Like, I ain't do the tour. You don't think like that? Okay. Yeah, I think, like, I know I'm going to come in here and kill it. If you're not a hottie, I'm about to make you a hottie. Right. Bitch hoe. Like, I never went into this tour thinking, damn, I'm going to fuck up.

Like, I came into it thinking I'm gonna go I am perform for my people and we can have a good time And that's exactly what we've been doing the whole time I've been like a big-ass party the whole tour yet half and I'm looking at like cardi B performed at the sold-out show You had shot Sunday service with lotto flow Miller glow or really open up for you really Go Millie flow me low Millie my bad my bad not glow Rilla Oh Millie yeah glow open up for you andie. My bad. My bad. Glowrilla. Flow Millie. Yeah. Glow opened up for you. And I'm looking at Gabrielle Union to Roger P. Henson showed up at your LA show.

The Real Housewives cast of Atlanta showed up. How does it make you feel with so many celebs and entertainers and athletes showing up at your show? A lot of the girls that popped out to my show, I know them personally. The Atlanta Housewives, I'm a huge fan. So when they came, was I was messed up I was like girl We got Kenya and Fasher in the same room

so I Was so excited to see them because this is this is what I do like I love reality TV like I love ratchet TV Not that the housewives are ratchet, but little bit. I just love that just they classy and ratchet But when they came in there i said girl i'll be watching y'all all the time i can't believe i can't even watch me so i was so happy about that i was super appreciative of that um all my female rapper friends that came like i really me and lotto cuts up like i love seeing y'all on stage we gets down so like when she popped out like it was only right it was only natural that i come to atlanta and we gotta have big lotto come

out that was my first time meeting flow millie really that was my first time being flow and i didn't think she was gonna be my height because usually everybody's tiny right but flow tall and thick like me i said what's up friend we are level how you doing and she's so talented i was so happy to meet her glow we have gotten so close yeah over this whole experience like i knew i was gonna like her before i met her i can see y'all being besties because i've had it's really my girl like you really feel like my family at this point like her whole team like we just be together all the time right what does it what does it mean for the sisterhood because it seems like all the people all the young ladies that

you're you're describing it seems like you guys really have a let me see you ladies that really have a bond like you really formed a sisterhood yeah like i don't know i really don't go out of my way to try to be cool with anybody in the industry yeah i just like let it naturally happen and the relationships that i have right now they just feel supernatural like and i'm gonna keep emphasizing the relationship with glow because it just we met and then ever since then it was just like no girl come come over here like we us two right I fuck with you yeah she's so sweet meeting I mean you said Flo Millie well that was your first time meeting what impressed you most about like Flo Millie you meeting for the first time or obviously you glow

you say you've become very close with glow what impressed you most about when you first met these it did it was not an awkward interaction like sometimes i feel like you meet somebody and you immediately try to sometimes people try to act too cool sometimes people act a little bougie or they act like you about to try to do something to them like i feel like we all first met each other and we was immediately like in there like we talking we having fun like nobody had no ego like that's what i really enjoyed about them nobody had a big ego like we talking we having fun like nobody had no ego like that's what i really enjoyed about them nobody had a big ego like we all was equals so it's like a situation like sometimes you go somewhere you see them and they be like i ain't gonna go over there till she come over

no because it be like that sometimes like and like especially in the industry you know sometimes it'll be a popularity contest right um has an ego. Everybody's a superstar. And, you know, as you should. You don't know how somebody going to act. You just walk up on them because you never know what kind of reaction you're going to get. So I understand when you don't want to just immediately approach somebody because you don't know what they're going to say to you. Right. But in this instance, in the girls that I'm cool with, the first time we ever met each other, it was just natural.

It was like, bitch, I like you. No, bitch, I like you. So what's up? We cool? So what was it like for her in houston you brought out bun b you brought out slim thug you brought out some of the houston's biggest and brightest but that's your hometown you born and raised that had to be an amazing feeling that you come back and you get the love from my hometown yeah i was so happy like i'm such a big fan of ugk um everybody know i'm tina snow because of obviously tony snow which is pimp c alter ego um but bun getting

that cosign from bun mean everything because this who i grew up listening to right uh slim thug he a fool but like he a houston legend paul wild zero? Like these are the dudes that you hear when you turn on the radio every morning in Houston, every afternoon, every night. Like, so being able to say I'm on the same stage as the people I grew up listening to,

I must be, I must be that girl. So what was it like? Obviously, Bon is the mayor. Nothing goes through Houston without Bon. I mean, he'll give you his stamp of approval and you good to go anywhere and anywhere in Houston.

And you mentioned Paul Wall. You mentioned Slim. I mean, so what was it like to be embraced by them? It's like, hey, we got you, girl. I feel like they wouldn't endorse something they didn't believe in. Like they wouldn't just be behind something just for the sake of some clout shit. Like I feel like they came up there and they did their thing because they really support me. And I like the way they stand behind me. I like the way that they hold me down. Everything don't got to come to the internet as far as support. But I thought that was a big moment that they came

and supported me publicly on stage in our city. I've been sitting down with you for 10 minutes and I can already tell you big on authenticity. You big on genuineness. You don't deal deal with fake it's cuz I've been through it okay so when I was first coming up I thought and my mama and my daddy used to tell me it's all the time because I got a big problem with this they used to tell me all the time everything that grand ain't your friend it's a whole world going on around you stop trying to stop trying to be so nice to everybody cuz everybody

not gonna hear that same treatment right so I've been through a phase in life where i had to figure out just because i'm so damn nice and i'm so friendly and i'm so open that doesn't mean that everybody else is gonna be that to me like i thought if i just be nice and i'll be myself everything gonna be okay like you must be being nice and being yourself too like why would you want to do anything to hurt me i'm not trying to hurt you right but i had to figure out bitch i'm in this how a little lamb like i'm just running around here like a little rabbit waiting to get hunted right so i really appreciate it when i meet somebody that feels real and genuine because it's hard to let your guard down right

especially in this type of space can you sense when people are not being authentic with you um i think i have a better sense now like i'm not the type of person who comes into a situation Expecting somebody to be fake Or expecting somebody to want to do something Malicious Like I come into a situation and I'm like I'm about to be nice, I'm about to be the best person I could be I'm going to treat you how I want to be treated

And hopefully you're about to do that to me So it's kind of hard for me to Sense sometimes when somebody's doing wrong Because why do I have to do that to me. Right. So it's kind of hard for me to sense sometimes when somebody is doing wrong, because why do I have to expect you to be ready to hurt me? Right. Like, why won't you just be nice? Because that's what I'm doing to you. So I'm getting better at it. You're getting better at it.

Yeah. I read that Pimp C's wife, and you mentioned Pimp, that she gave you a lot of his unreleased verses. Shout out to Shannar. Is he going to make an appearance on that the pimp c is on the album okay okay like i have a pimp c verse me make it a second everybody know pimp c is my favorite rapper and i have a pimp c verse that's nuts that's gonna be real big for the south i feel like how did that come about so juicy j and jew are my guys and they've been knowing that i've been looking for a pimp verse okay so one day i came to the studio and jew was like i got something for you oh and he played it for me and i was like jew shut the fuck so after he played it we we cried a little bit because pimp c is a jew favorite rapper

too right so we cried a little bit and we couldn't believe it and we just was looking at each other like damn like i can't believe we've been talking about this for years and we finally got it so yeah shout out to juicy j and little jew because that's who gave it to me uh victoria monet let me ask you a question this album that's coming out is it gonna be are we gonna have like because you like you've been holding it very very tight you ain't let a whole lot of people know who's on the album and everything like that why you all in so close to the best well because in my previous experience with releasing music I must have be leaking oh yeah like I just wasn't in the best situation to where I could surprise my fans like the way that I wanted to.

And now I'm in a space where I'm in complete control. So I've been trying to like just hold it real near and dear until the day of. Okay. Because I don't want no leaks. Right. I want you to be genuinely surprised when you turn the album on. So when I finally released the track list with the features on there i was nervous because i was like oh my god i don't want anybody to i don't want anybody else engineer to be on nothing silly and they they accidentally leaked something i didn't want

anybody else to play it i don't know i was very nervous but it's out now so you are you're on your janet jackson you're on your control tour huh yeah i just realized i might be kind of a control freak i didn't know that about myself Really? Now what gave it away? I didn't know that about me until recently Yeah I think A woman in your position You probably Yeah I might be

But I gotta be I like things the way that I like them You think people look at you and because you're a female Try to take advantage of you? Or they tried? Maybe not now because you're a female try to take advantage of you um or they tried maybe not now because you you're vetting the game i don't even know if it's because i'm a female that they try to take advantage of me i think it's just because i'm so nice that they try to take advantage of me they take your kindness weakness they do they was taking my kindness for weakness like i put a lot of people above myself i used to put a lot of people above

myself all the time like i would try to do things where okay this might hurt me but at least i won't be hurting 10 other people like i would never put myself first so i'm in the era of putting myself first yeah but damn you hurting you but you probably don't care about i mean well because i feel like i'll be hurt for a little while like i know how to get over things right but i feel like i don't know i just didn't want to hurt other people feelings right at the sake of having my own feelings hurt. But now I don't really like that. Like I don't want my feelings hurt either. Right. So I'm just protecting my peace. What was it like working with Victoria in studio? Victoria is everything. She's so sweet. And apparently we look alike.

So we talk about that all the time. Victoriaoria's lip that's what i would say about victoria so let's just say for the album i guess albums normally drop on like a tuesday we're not gonna know who's actually on the album until what no so there's only one feature that people don't know about yet okay but my track list with the features on there is already out okay it's only one you know that that must be special you got you got no way oh god like I'm just right if you got the feature is special everybody on my album is special to me right the reason why the feature is hidden do I want to say why the feature is hidden yeah why the feature was hidden because I wasn't sure at first if this song was actually gonna go on the album okay

now the song now the song is gonna go on the album so that's why the name wasn't on the track list when I when I look at you and I think of you and I've heard you speak before you are very you're a very strong woman and now that you're independent yeah because you find that this whole cuz now it's coming out into high girl productions okay yeah so let me ask you this why did you why did you feel you because I'm sure there are a lot of recording. There are a lot of record labels that wanted Meg. Why did you choose to go this route? I've been in a situation where I felt like I was so out of control for the longest. And when I say out of control, like I didn't really have complete control over my music.

I could barely go perform when I felt like it they couldn't use my music in commercials i had to literally go to court every time i wanted to drop a song damn so i just was like you know what i need to do what's best for me like i appreciate what a label can do for you but if y'all can't agree to these terms and i don't want to do it right so i wasn't gonna go nowhere where they wasn't gonna give me what i was worth and they wasn't gonna give me what i was asking for. But that's how I wound up with my distribution from Warner because they believe in me. And it's really like a trust thing.

I feel like when you sign to a label, like it's all business at the end of the day. Yeah. But you still want to be somewhere where y'all could trust each other. I know you ain't going to mess over me and I'm not going to mess over you. We both need to win. Right. They seem like they wanted to win with me they didn't want to win without me but it wasn't a situation where i felt like okay we're gonna do this with or without you no they wanted to win together and that's what i liked about warner you keep talking about control but i'm looking at you you're control free you've been a control well i'm telling you i'm coming to

terms with this like oh you were trying to deny that. I was trying to deny that because I didn't really know what that meant at first. Okay. But I think, you know, I figured out I'm claustrophobic, right? I don't like heights. And I had to start figuring out why am I scared of heights? Why am I claustrophobic? I don't want to be closed up in nothing that I can't get out of.

Okay. I don't want to go up too high because I can't turn around. I won't even walk in a room I don't know how to get out of so you ain't doing the roller coasters huh no what ah you got i'm putting my life in this person hands in this machine 82 years old you you 18 in this machine 82 you don't even this thing. So I definitely ain't about to let you run me up and turn me upside down. No. Right. No.

So does it feel better knowing that you're in total control? The music is going to come out exactly how Meg wanted it. Yes. Everything's going to get released. And you know what? You have to also take into account the things that you cannot control. I'm going to be in control of the things that I can be in control of. Because I feel like when you're trying to do something great it's always

gonna be some bumps it's always something that's gonna be out of your control but i've controlled all of the things that i could like right now i'm actually going through it because i had a sample on my album that's an anime sample and everything was going so smooth at first they were like okay yeah fine sure she could use it then they were like well actually if you do a video you can't dress up like none of the characters in this in this show so i said okay i'm whatever i won't do it i'm grateful thank you then they said last night what was this i found this out yesterday at my show the night before that, well, you can't say none of the names. That's in the whole hook.

Well, damn. That's what I said. And then they still haven't got back to me yet about what I can do. So now. If they didn't want you to use it, why'd they say yes? Because you can't dress up as the character. You can't say the character's name. Well, damn.

What can I do? If I can't go to Bella Loche's, where the hell can I go? But no, we're going to be optimistic because we're on two different time zones. So that's what's kind of messing it up too, like the communication. But we're going to see what come out tonight. We're going to see what they approve.

And hopefully they approve something by the time the album come out. Because baby, I done already did what I had to do. It's a God's hands. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews,

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I got to do what? So I'm learning. Right. But I love it. How does it feel to be your own boss? It feels really good. Can't nobody tell me no. Can't nobody tell It feels really good. Can't nobody tell me no. Can't nobody tell me what to do.

Can't nobody tell me where to be. Right. Can't nobody tell me nothing. Y'all can tell me stuff. Right. But it's up to me if I listen or not. Right. Let me ask you this.

What is your take? Do you believe in ghostwriters? Do you write a lot of your own raps? I do write all my own verses. I will take a hook from somebody okay i feel like there's nothing wrong with getting suggestions when my mom was alive my mama and me used to go back and forth freestyling or she'll listen to something i wrote or something i recorded she'd be like you could say it harder than that or yeah she'll be like

mama was like you could say it harder than that you she'll she'll say you ain't going hard enough you need to go in there and do it again so taking a suggestion from somebody i feel like is cool yeah like everybody need a little inspiration but me personally like i like to write my own verse because it's very hard for me to say things that i did not write it's very hard for me to believe what I'm saying if I ain't say it. Right. But I don't think nothing wrong with you getting help. Right. Because I'm going to take some help on the hook. Right.

Because I talk a lot. So I'm going to write them verses. Right. But when it gets to the hook, I feel like it's got to be catchy. It's got to be simple. It's got to be straight to the point. And I'll be talking. So somebody got to.

I'll take your advice. You take advice advice you take advice yeah i'll take advice have you written for other people will you write for other people have you written for other people you ain't gotta say the name no no i haven't are you sure yep i don't know. That don't sound. I ain't convinced. I will like to write for people in the future, but no, I don't. I don't write for other people. So let me ask you a question. Do you have a studio in your home?

I don't. You don't. So we're like, how do you. I have all the equipment. So wherever I go, I can travel with it and then have my engineer just come set up wherever I'm at. So what's some of the craziest places a song has come to you? You're like man i need to start put pin on this tour really yes i've been recording this whole tour how do you i mean i would i mean you know better than me i'll be thinking about man i okay i'm in houston tonight i'm in dallas tomorrow no it's been pretty hectic like yeah so how do you have to set up every night everywhere i'm at and your mind

can relax enough to allow you to go to another space where you thinking creatively on something else already i'm thinking about words all day long like i'll be writing in the shower i'll be writing in the bed in the middle of the night i write i was writing on the tour bus i'll be writing anywhere like wherever it come to me and then if i've already like especially this is what i've been doing a lot on the tour if I already wrote this song but something else cool comes to my mind I'd be like okay so what you need to go sit up in the other room so I can come in and lay this down Wow is it hard for you to sleep is it hard for you to turn your mind off I have not been sleeping

this whole couple of months that we've been on tour I don't even know how I'm up here right now really and I'll be like damn I'm tired and then when it's time to do something else I'll be like damn I'm up here right now. Really? And I'll be like, damn, I'm tired. And then when it's time to do something else, I'll be like, damn, I'm up. Something come to your mind. It's hard to turn your mind off. It's hard to turn my brain off. Because I got stuff to do. Let me ask you a question.

Obviously, you work with some of the biggest stars. Who are some people that you haven't worked with that you would love to work with? I haven't worked with Billie Eilish. And I really want to work with her. I like her and I like her brother a lot yeah I like the dynamic they have I feel like it's real cool I like Phineas beats I like Phineas as a person so I really I definitely would like to work with both of them wow I like I like but I've heard her perform I was at an event and she performed two songs two or three songs with her brother yeah they have a they have a very they so cool like together so i'm like damn let me have some of that sauce a little bit let me talk about this here i'm looking at some of the the people that you perform with ariana grande

maroon five little nas x uh silza future quavo beyonce cardi b who surprised you the most in the studio who surprised me the most in the studio i got funny studio stories about a lot of these people you can share one or two one or two um who do i want to talk about okay i'm gonna talk about victoria first okay vict Victoria came and made me an espresso martini in the studio like a full bartender. Like she had the shaker. She had all the ingredients. And I'm like, Victoria, how do you know how to do this? I guess it's her specialty.

I didn't know she was going to come in the goddamn studio room. She likes to record with the lights low. Like she definitely set the mood for me. It was very sexy in there. Right. And my girl whipped out all her equipment to start bartending. She'll mixologistogist, huh? No when you record what's the what's the mood like

When I record it's just me and my engineer. I don't like a lot of noise in the studio I'm like a lot of people obviously the only noise I want to hear is me and the beat My studio sessions do not be turnt up I don't even know how people is in there with 82 people jumping up and down, doing all that stuff. Everybody be quiet. Okay. I need to think. It's like I got a basketball goal.

And the studio I record at is like a goal in the back. And sometimes I just go back there and I'll be like just messing around. This is so random, but I'll be thinking I'm really Angel Reese when I'll be back there. Oh, my God, mom. I do. this is so random but i'll be thinking i'm really angel reason when i'll be back oh my come on i do but i'll be back there and i just play around until i figure out exactly what i want to say and then i start recording you know who i think your spirit at cardi b you and cardi y'all y'all y'all spirits i mean y'all like really high energy yeah Yeah. And, you know, you, you, I mean, I mean, I just love you guys together. What's Cardi like?

She is so sweet. She's very, what's the word I want to say? She's kind of shy to be Cardi B. Like you would think Cardi is like loud and she just don't give a fuck and she just boom. No, my girl is actually a little shy. And every time we see each other, she be acting like it's the first time she's seen me ever in life. And I'll be like, girl, I just saw you. Like, turn up.

So then we've been like after we get around each other for like 20 more minutes, then she'll be at normal again. Man, I'm looking at the song Walk. How did you? How? What? I mean, I just I guess he was dribbling that basketball in what that would that happen during I feel like during cold I recorded that in my living room at that time when I got the beat I was like okay oh this how we coming here

we go and I recorded two verses and I was like Cardi please don't take off my other verse like just please let's go back and forth and she listened to the whole thing cuz I don't think she had heard the second verse at first right and she was like oh shit okay well we doing this did you know you had a monster on your hand i didn't i just knew i had a song with cardi b and i was so excited like i was so happy because i had never met her before and when they said megan cardi once you get on this song i was like cardi want me to get on the song what so then we met and then i recorded my stuff and it was amazing and you know like people that's a that's a saying now you know that right what wings and pizza yeah okay

worship and praise that's what you lead with now oh my god oh i mean while i was number one on the billboard 100 reached over a billion streams on Spotify WAP was the top trending Google search In a calendar year Do you know how many times people Search Google in a day Do you know how many people are in the world And they trying to figure out what WAP is

Yeah I was trying to figure out What is this You know what it is I didn't know but I know what it is I'm so happy that was like that is one of my favorite songs that i've ever done i love her i'm so glad she asked me to do that one of my favorites only listen to yeah i don't know why the men be trying to act like they don't be listening to female rap yeah i definitely do yeah and be jamming too yeah when

i go when i be performing at some of these stops yeah it be a lot of men in the crowd, and they be trying to stand there and act tough. And I look them dead in they eye and be like, you know you want to bob your head and they start blushing. I'm like, yeah. I'm a hot girl. I do hot shit. Say it, man. But the big homie. Who? Beyonce.

Yes. Oh, my. Beyonce. Beyonce. Beyonce. Yeah. Queen B.. Who? Beyonce. Yes. Oh, my Beyonce. Beyonce. Beyonce. Yeah. Queen B. Queen B. Beyonce. Really, people don't even say, they just say B, and we know who you're talking about.

Yeah, because what other B is it? That's it. Boss. Yeah. Business. Billion. Billion. Billionaire.

B. Yeah. Obviously, if you're from Houston, if're you in the music industry you're female that's it she's the gold standard she's the measuring stick so what was your first conversation like with Beyonce where did you meet her let me think when is the first time I met Beyonce I feel like the first time I ever met beyonce was at a party that she had and i was so nervous and i met her and blue and i didn't know what to say but blue ran up on me like she already knew me and i was like cousin cousin like i couldn't believe it and b was so

cool like b was looking at me like why are you acting like I'm not a normal human being and I wanted to look at her like you don't know that you're a superwoman Right, you don't know that you don't know who you are Yeah, but I had to chill because I ain't want Beyonce to think I was just gonna be acting crazy the whole night But I was in my mind like I can't believe Beyonce got me up here Beyonce you fanned out did you I was trying to be cool I did I did but I had to be cool though cuz i ain't gonna be on set and not invite me back to the but that's but that's beyonce but i mean you meet i mean you see this person on television and and you meet them in person and i'm you think i'm every time i see beyonce i'm fanned out yeah there will never be a time i see her and don't act like

and i know she be tired of me did you you think like, if I ever met Beyonce, what would, this is what I'm going to say. And then you got there and you froze. I don't even know what I ever thought. Like,

I just knew I was going to be Beyonce and she was going to be my sister. That was just what I, that's just what I thought in my brain. Right. Why not? Right.

Why I'm not going to be Beyonce and she's not going to be my sister? That's my sister. Right. And I manifested it. And now what? Guess what she is? Your sister.

My sister. Savage. So when you come come out so let me ask you this savage how do you i mean she dropped it did you so how did that come about you's like you know i want i can't tell all beyonce Okay. But like when I got the song, I was on my goddamn knees on the side of my bed thanking God because I never thought. Like in your mind, you know what you want to do with your life and you know who you want to be and you know what your goals are and you know how you want to plan your life out to be.

Right. Of course, I'm from Houston and I want a song with Beyonce. But to actually have it, to actually have gotten it, I was like, what the fuck is going on like me beyonce know who i am that's actually very insane when i heard her vocals on the song i had to call the producer i had to call jay white i had to call my grandma ferris was already with me ferris is my brother my manager he everything i'm like y'all bitch home did y'all know i got a song with beyonce we was all in the house cutting up i'm still fucked up about it like every time i perform it i'll be like wow me on a song with beyonce this is crazy this is crazy i love her she is like

the woman like beyonce is the person yeah like yeah like Beyonce could be the president without running if she chose to right like if Beyonce announced I want to run this shit I think we'll all just get in get in line and be like okay write Beyonce name on the ballot yeah right in candidate yeah you invited to their pajama party that's what I'm talking about that's where I may be at that was it so you and you in the pajamas you like you know like okay i'm going i had to go get my best pajamas i said somebody go to louis vuitton and give me somebody go give me you ain't wearing pajamas you gotta go i mean i had to be in my best the normal pjs no we're going to beyonce house i had to act like i had some sense i wanted to show up in my best so

obviously hove you know normally you know especially occasion like this so what would the like to me home cuz I've met him a couple of times I met him at the Roc Nation office when I first got signed a rock okay and I was in the room and we're just looking at stuff on the projector or whatever like talking about what I was about to do and Jay-Z just walked in like it wasn't nothing and I'm like y'all got me so fucked up like Jay-Z up in my business what's going on y'all care about me at rock nation yeah okay here we go I'm really gonna do some shit now right we got Jay-Z up here man that you're making a stand I play with me so how was your conversation when you talked to Jay obviously you're at rock nation so what was those conversation like it just felt like i was in the right spot like like i said i was manifesting a lot of stuff

of myself never did i ever think that i was actually going to be managed by the people that i looked up to um it just felt like a big family they they're just so intelligent like they've been through everything they still going through it right now but they they're just so intelligent like they've been through everything they still going through it right now but they they just know how to carry it and i'm learning from the best i feel like i'm in the right spot i'm in the right position i ain't never felt so like safe in a situation where i feel like these people got my back and i just see how much they grind and how much they hustle and how much they let all the talk and whatever else people got to say just roll off their back. I'll call Jay or Des.

Des is the woman who really run shit at Roc Nation. And I'll be like, they saying this about me. They got me fucked up now. And they'll be somewhere on the island like, why you even care about that? You tripping. I'll be like, why the fuck is y'all so cool all the time when you decided to go independent did you talk to jay because he's someone that that the business augment is there b she knows what to do so who did you when you decided to

say you know what i'm gonna do this on my own do you did you talk to them or did you talk to when i was in the situation that i was in and i wanted to get out of it right they told me you need to do this on your own like you you already know what it is you got all the tools all the legal shit that you're going through right now i know you're learning something right so you should be able to figure out how to get out here and be your own boss right beyonce is the person who actually inspired me to get my own tequila because i used to i used to be the cognac queen wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews,

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And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. To the cognac queen. But as much as I used to enjoy cognac and i promoted a lot of people like liquor brands she was like the next time i see you need to have your own right you need to have your own alcohol alcoholic beverage right and i was like you know what you're right queen i am gonna have my own shit so now i have my own tequila it's called chica steve retinas and it's gonna be so cute i've been serving it throughout my tour right and everybody's been loving it so I feel like they definitely put me in a

position to learn how to be my own boss with the independent deal hard to negotiate um with the wrong people yeah like you why would somebody want you to have all have ownership over something that they can have ownership over and make all the money like why would somebody let the artist be in full complete control when that when that's usually not done right um but like i said when we were in talks with warner like they didn't seem like they were being greedy they didn't seem like they didn't want me to have creative control they didn't want me to have creative control. They didn't want me to have my freedom.

They just wanted to help me be the person, be the artist that I want to grow into being. You feel like it's a partnership. Instead of you just being talent, you're a partner. They're not treating me like I'm just a product. Right. It felt like, okay, we are partners in this. And what would you like to do, Megan? That's what I liked about them.

You do understand, though, being a businessman myself, is that when you start spending money it's your money that just i've been spending my own money for a long time these music videos ain't cheap right that's what i definitely learned when i jumped off the porch and wanted to be independent i said how much this shit cost yeah i don't think we need all them dancers no i go in for myself like i believe in myself and i believe that i'm making a really good investment in something that i believe in if i ain't gonna back myself up who else gonna do it if i don't believe it y'all motherfuckers ain't gonna believe it so the last three music videos y'all seen me put out that's straight out of make it stay at your bank account and that shit was not cheap right but that's okay because i like good art when your bank account and that shit was not cheap right but

that's okay because i like good art when i look at a music video i want to watch that shit over and over again so i want to put out something that i know that my hotties are going to want to watch over and over again and the thing is that when you win guess who wins yeah me and my people that support me you're right and that's how that's how it should be okay now that you own your catalog and we see a lot of other celebs, entertainers have sold their catalog. If that was something that you would be looking to do down the road, or you're like, I fought too hard to get these, I'm going to hold on to them. I don't know about all that. Not right now, I don't.

I don't know why. It may be a good business move to them. I don't know, but I just got my shit, so let's celebrate. Let's celebrate what we got going on right now. Hold on. Now that you're making, I mean, you've probably been making big, but now you're independent.

Hold on. This, a million dollars for a A million dollars for what? That Cobra chain. Oh, yeah. Actually yeah i thought you meant my ring i don't got my ring on right now but i did how would you pay for that my ring yeah i'll definitely pay like a million for my ring a million well if i'm not gonna do i gotta set the tone for the man that i want in the future like well he's gonna he gotta spend 10 million for the game and ring

yeah i might have to go give me a prince or a king or some shit or something. Yeah, you got to. You don't spend a million on yourself. So he can't even. Because you got to know what I want. I ain't going to never let nobody shortchange me. Man, you do realize a million dollars for a diamond is a lot. Yes.

But you're going to look at him like I bought him. I spent a million on myself. No, fuck a man. I do things. I do things that make me happy I was talking shit like I do I buy the things that I want for myself because I like to treat myself right because I want to see me smile right so I'm gonna make the purchase that's gonna make me smile okay well how about this what's the best gift someone is giving Meg the truth give me the damn truth that's all I'm asking for you don't gotta give me nothing crazy just

tell me the truth be yourself be real you can handle the truth i can handle the truth i as many motherfuckers who've been lying to me you'll be relieved when somebody just be like all right this what it is this what it ain't oh i'll be like thank you god like and you ain't waste my time you ain't get me you ain't bullshitting i will i'll be surprised when somebody being real when somebody being fake i expect it but when they be being real i'll be like what right okay i like that so obviously you being meg family and friends so where do you meg where do you draw the line because you know when you got money you know they like they think you have a never-ending supply yes yeah they think the tree

in the back got millions just falling from it how do you how do you tell family and friends i'm not talking about 13th cousins i'm talking about close family and friends how do you tell them no uh i don't my my cousin is actually in there right now um and that's like my best friend and i don't really have a very large family right um if i could help anybody that's super close to me in any kind of way i really love to do it because just they friendship and they loyalty and they love to me make me feel good and it's something that simple as helping you pay your bills that's that's not a big deal to me so let me ask you this do you loan money or do you give money i'm giving the money i don't expect you to because yeah yeah i ain't gonna get it back i don't want two hundred dollars back you don't gotta give me that back

that's all right so is that obviously you say you bought it bought yourself a ring you bought yourself uh um what was the first thing that meg bought when she got some money the first thing that i did with my money when i started getting money i paid off all my student loans and then i bought a house i i didn't they didn't have to wait that thing they didn't have to wait that one out knock this off me i don't want no debt i don't like i don't like owing nobody no money right so sally make it show shit and leave me alone don't call me no more so i paid off all my student loan sally may grandkids if you ain't collecting that i feel like they got some new shit going on that they don't see if you'd waited a buy would have paid that off you would have waited that fucked

up yeah see but i just ain't want it on my chest i ain't want to feel it no more i ain't want it on me so let me ask you this. What's the one thing that you splurged on? When you first got... You like jewels. I just like jewelry. Right. Rings, chains?

Yeah, rings, bracelets, chains, watches. What about whips? No. You got a driver's license? Can you drive? I can drive. I got a driver's license. That's so crazy. Yes, I can could try but you don't really drive yourself you too cool now you know you like you said i would love to drive myself really yes i have a

i think for my birthday next year i'm gonna drive i'm gonna drive i'm gonna buy myself a car i don't you don't even own a car you ain't got a car now I have a car but I'm gonna get the car that I really really want I've been hauling off I really want a Bentley okay and I want to customize it the way I want and it's gonna be real cute but cars is just not at the top of my list right like I like cars right because when you see me if I ain't in the car you don't see the car when I got them jewels on you see them thing you see my jewelry See me driving this damn car. Is there anything that you regret purchasing? No, I Like I told you I'm a control freak right now. I can't turn around from I'm not gonna do nothing I don't really want that's why I won't buy a bunch of cars because as soon as I come outside and I look at some

Shit, I don't want I'm gonna be upset. Why did I do this? Right? Why would I have done this? How do you let me ask you a question? How do you come up with the how did you cover with with hot girls hotties? How do you come up with that? That shit just came to my brain one day. Like I don't know. I just always felt like I was Hi girl. Yeah, and well me my fans We were definitely talking about it one day like which I want to be called like what are we doing? And like I put up a list of things and they pick hotties right so that's what they are the hotties what about the hot girl summer

that shit just came to my brain I was just talking shit on Twitter one day and I'm like bitch we have an hour or something and it that's just what it was and then you know hot boy and then you know uh Duvall came with the city boys well he make that up cuz the city girls are already city girls. But, you know, I mean, he was like, he was rapping about this and now he got activities. So, what's going to be what you got for the aunties? Oh, the aunties? Yeah, what you got for them?

The hot aunties. The hot tea summer. The hot teas. They was already, they already there. Yeah. The hot teas. You. The hot tea summer. The hot teas. They was already, they already that. Yeah. The hot teas. You trademarked hot girl summer. Yeah, I did.

That's mine. Anytime you see somebody talking about we have a hot grill summer and all that other shit, you know who that belong to. That's my shit. What made you, what you like? Hey, you know what? It was just so many businesses were using it. And of course, you know, when me was just so many businesses were using it.

And of course, you know, when me and Roc Nation get together, we'll be having to figure it out. What's going on? What are you going to do, Megan? Right. So, yeah, it just felt like the smart thing to do. So what was some of the things that you learned about business that you didn't know? Besides owning, oh, I own a business. But there's so much more to a business than just owning a business.

Yeah. I feel like we talked about it a business than just owning a business. Yeah. I feel like we talked about it a little bit earlier about spending your own money. You can't make money without spending money. True. When you ever heard somebody say it costs to be the boss. Right. Now I really do understand that. Yeah.

Like I like to have nice things. I like my things to look a certain type of way. I want it to be extravagant. I want it to look like a production every time you see it now how is that gonna happen who money is it you can either go get some somebody to invest in you but now you making them be a boss over you to right now do you want to have complete ownership you invest everything in yourself you do it everything you do everything on your own so I'm gonna say the money part is the part that I've definitely learned about having a complete ownership and being your own boss.

Because you do realize like when you go get some of these big name guys or females to women to be on your do a feature that costs. I mean, 250. I heard you pay future 250 to do a hook feature. Excuse me. So you're like, well, damn, $250. But that's okay because when you're paying somebody their fee, that means that you respect them and appreciate them as an artist. Like I'm not about to ask nobody to do nothing for me for free. I ask what is the feature price because I want you to know how serious I am about this. I ain't trying to beg and I ain't trying to scramble.

It ain't got to be a favor for a favor. I'm asking you to do your art or my art. You do a feature for me, I do a feature for you. What about that? That's cool. That happens too, but that's not what happened. I wanted that feature and I was just like, somebody helped me figure out what's his feature price. The manager told me what it was. Boom. Go send him the money in cash so he could do this for me ASAP.

Yeah. You bossing like that? Yeah, but sometimes you got to put your foot down. Everything not about, oh, we cool. Like that's what people fuck up at. Just because somebody your homeboy or your homegirl, that don't mean that they got to give you everything for free. Support your people. Right. Like you're an artist and you got to get your money.

Why not pay your artist friend to do whatever for you? I ain't trying to beg out motherfuckers for nothing. Your first tour, you were on tour with Future and Meek, right? Mm-hmm. What was that experience like? So that was your very first tour. Yeah. So what was your expectations when you were on tour with Future and Meek right? what was that experience like? so that was your very first tour so what was your expectations when you went on tour? I didn't have any expectations like me coming

fresh out of Houston doing just like a whole Texas circuit all the time to going every god damn where I used to be so nervous cause I'm like do any of these people know who I am are they gonna come see me like do they care that I'm here and I would come out there and it would be a little bit empty at first and then it would get like super packed by the time I was done and the motherfuckers knew who I was by the time I was gone right so I felt like I was working I

was grinding and I loved it I read that you like used to freestyle used to battle rap against guys you made that up I did and I read that's what i got right here who you could hurt that from my people my research that didn't help you didn't you didn't freestyle you didn't battle rap i used to be freestyling with the boys and stuff but i wasn't battle rapping yeah you were i ain't no battle rapper i'll just be talking shit oh that's it i ain't no battle rapper and that why you talking with it why you talking that like that? Because that's what I do. But I feel like battle rapping, that's like a whole culture. Like that's all.

Yeah, but I'm just saying, but you freestyle and you're going against the guys. Is that where you sharpen your skills? Is that what you? No. Like I told you earlier, me and my mama used to be going back and forth. Really? Yeah. She was really the one.

And I just wanted to beat her and I wanted to impress her. And like, I thought she was just the coldest rapper ever. So if I was going to compete with anybody, anybody it's gonna be my mama right your mom really inspired you huh yeah that's your girl yeah i mean it seems to me that you guys had something more more it's like i hate i don't want you can correct me if i'm wrong it's like you guys were like yeah that was your mom you're the daughter but y'all had more like a relationship. Like y'all were like sister. Like, well, you know, black mama's going to always tell you I ain't your friend. I ain't your sister and all that shit.

So I ain't going to say she was my sister. But my mama, my mama was my best friend. Right. And it used to really just be me, her and my dad before he passed. Okay. And I didn't really care about nobody else. I didn't care about having a bunch of friends and stuff because and i was a very friendly kid uh but i was the only child so like

i just i just love being around my mom i was that's why i still shower myself in these type of gifts because that's what i'm used to right my mom and my daddy my grandma like they just gave me whatever i wanted they made me feel and and it makes me appreciate it today because i'm just now realizing we were not rich and they just really broke their back to give me everything that i asked for and more right so now i'm like damn i didn't even realize my mama was struggling like that and still giving me everything i asked for do you ever wish you had siblings um no i like being the only child. Really? Yes. I can't even imagine it being two of me.

No, they ain't have to be two of you. They could have their own identity, Meg. No. Cause I would've made them be like me. But what if they were the oldest? Mmm. See, I wouldn't have liked that. Cause I probably wouldn't have been me if I was trying to be like my big sister.

You had a brother. Ooh, that, alright. because I probably wouldn't have been me if I was trying to be like my big sister. You had a brother. All right. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee. No dumb hot takes here, just smart hot takes. We'll talk every single game, every single week,

but I can't do it alone, so I'm bringing in the big guns from NFL media. That's Patrick Claibon, Steve Weiss, Nick Shook, Jordan Rodrigue from The Athletic, and of course, Colleen Wolfe. This is their window right now. This is their Super Bowl window. Why would they trade him away?

Because he would be a pivotal part of them winning that Super Bowl. I don't know why, Colleen. Catch the podcast, the NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal every day. Subscribe today and you'll immediately be smarter and funnier than your friends. And who doesn't want that? Listen now on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Well, if I would have had a brother brother he would have been cool too and he probably would have been trying to make me not be me though i don't know but if i had a brother that'll be real cool yeah see i couldn't even imagine it

being a boy me what we'll be trouble what about the accent that i mean i can tell you from the south i have an accent okay i know i got an accent but like i really ain't never really hear it myself until i start leaving texas like when i start going to new york so much they'll be like what you say or huh say it again and i'm like what why you don't hear me like i'm speaking very clearly but I guess some of the shit I be saying is sound country. I don't know. No, I mean, now, I mean, you've been, did anybody like when you got started rapping, did anybody try to change? You say, well, you know what I mean?

That, that draw a little thick. Um, nobody outside of Houston tried to change me. Like I remember one time I was recording at this boy's studio and he stopped me in the middle of recording and was like, why do you talk like that? And I was what do you mean he was like you just sound like you mad like you just a mad ass girl on the mic and i was like damn that's fucked up and i just finished my song and i left and he was telling me who i should sound more like and all this other shit oh you didn't like that no i didn't like that but i wasn't about to let him punk me at my session either because you don't pay for that so bitch, let me finish.

And then I got up out of there and I never went back. But I was like, nah, fuck that. Can't nobody tell me what to sound like and who to be. Bitch, I'm making this down. But obviously as a female rapper, we know the ones, Lil' Kim, Foxy Brown, Charlie Baltimore, all those ones that came before you. MC Lyte, Queen Latifah. Shout out to Latifah.

I just saw her the other day. So when you were growing up, what female rapper was like, I like her. I would like to hear. I'm not saying you wanted to be like that. But who did you listen to growing up? I'm going to say this one more time. I used to want to be just like my mama. Really?

Because my mama was a rapper. What was her name? Hollywood. Hollywood. But my mama uh favorite female rapper was a little kim okay so she put me on biggie before she put me on little kim and i used to love biggie so much i still love biggie but she was like if you like biggie i got something for you that's gonna fuck you up so then she started playing me kim and i was like what is this so i definitely was on kim early but definitely my mama was my favorite female rapper have you ever met kim of course i've met kim like and you would think how much shit little kim be talking with that deep ass voice on them fucking beats she's six foot tall you would think she finna be tall as a motherfucker and just the voice finna be deep like that i met

little kim and she was like hey what's what's up? I was like, Kim! Kim! Kimberly! Where's the real Lil' Kim? Because this ain't Kim. She is so nice and she's so sweet and she gives just like

baby girl energy. Like she is just so cute and petite and nice. And I was like, I cannot believe you are this sweet. Right.

I love her. When you were growing up, Meg, in Houston, what did, so did you always want to be a rapper? Yes. So did you have any odd jobs? I mean, did you work at fast food chains or did you work?

Yeah. I worked at bombshells. I worked at, do you know what bombshells is? I don't. It's like Hooters, but it's like Hooters, but it's like army themed and we had skirts okay instead of shorts it was shorts under the skirt but yeah i was like the probably the thickest one at the job and i thought i was so rich because i was getting all the tips and i was like shit i'm lit i ain't gotta do shit else but i was doing that and i was going to school and rapping right but I thought I was so rich as

a waitress you go to fan you go to prayer view you end up transferring to go into Texas Southern so were you rapping in college yes when I first got the okay so this is what happened so my grandma wanted me to go to college to be a nurse okay so that's how I wound up at PV because she told me you finna go be a nurse and I said okay fine I ain't tell my grandma i want to rap so when i got to pv i was like okay i ain't gotta hide what i really want to do no more so i just immediately got to pv and start rapping like whoever i can get around and they was doing whatever nursing program no i ain't say after nursing program but i was definitely in the class in all the classes you know, your little prerequisite classes, like, scratching my head. Like, I'm paying attention, but I'm like, oh, bitch, what?

I got to go. Like, it's only because I wasn't, like, passionate about it. Right. Because I went to school because my grandma told me to go to school to do this. So I really wasn't doing bad, but I wasn't doing good. You can only make two C's in the nursing program you know i made about three of them things so i had to go ahead and get up out of there because i'd rather like do my best than fail and be wasting money right so i changed my major to business management okay okay okay because i was like you know what i'm gonna be a business

woman i need to know i know i'm gonna be a business woman like i gotta figure out how to market myself it just all sounded good so i started taking the business classes and i said oh god this is okay this is better than the nursing for me like i'm making better grades but something about it was still not interested and i was in class and i'll be writing music and just zoned out right and i was like no like i know school is not whooping my ass because i'm not smart right i know i'm smart but maybe it's just that i'm bored that wasn't your passion that wasn't my passion so once i finally figured out what i wanted to go to school for that's when i started really like piping up that's when i got to tsu right i got to focus more and i knew i want to graduate I'm passionate about starting my own

assisted living facility how do I do this and when I got the CSU then I start making A's and B's and I say here we go there you go I know it was up there so how much credit do you give social media because you're you're big you're big on social media I mean like you said you got the hotties and so the young girls they fought they follow me yeah how credit do you give social media for being able to put you not, you got talent. Yeah. So I don't want you to think I'm saying you're not talented and that you're just a social media creation. I didn't think that.

You know. Thank you. So social media aspect and Meg, because it's different now. Because you can blow up overnight with social media yeah um i definitely give social media a lot of credit because that was my platform for people to see i could rap like i feel like back then it was a little hard for like rappers to like really be grinding because you you got to be on the street passing out your cds you got to be at all the clubs doing all your shit like it was like footwork but the internet you could literally

post yourself and it will travel to the next country yes like so i definitely give social media a lot of credit for people discovering who i am because as soon as i started dropping them freestyles and i was doing them cyphers and shit like it just went everywhere people everywhere could figure out who i was but i know it's because i actually could rap like i could you could be doing anything on the internet and blow up for it But I'm glad that I blew up from actually knowing how to write that skills. Yeah I'm gonna get you out of here on this you posted something a couple of weeks ago And maybe you were you were you were feeling some type of way and you was like you couldn't understand

Why a person like yourself that's so positive and people come on your page to try to beat you down. Mm-hmm yourself that's so positive and people come on your page to try to beat you down. Mm hmm. How does like you're such a positive person, you don't really you try to stay out of everybody's way, but it seems like the negativity and make I'm the same way somebody we can I can hear a million great things, but it's something about that negative one that just irks me. Yeah, it just bothers me And we know you've dealt with depression and you've had some thoughts Uh that that that took you to a dark place

What do you think it was when you're so positive you got so much going on That you think people want to come come on your platform and try to drag you down. I feel like We're human. So naturally When you see somebody say something bad about you that's untrue or try to put out information about you that's untrue, you want to defend yourself. Yeah. Like it's only so many times you could just keep trying to be the bigger person and ignore shit. Yes. Like I'm still me.

Like I'm still a real human. I'm still a person. I have feelings. I'm still a person I have feelings so like when you when you try to be so positive and you try to like let shit roll off your back or you try to just stay above it's so confusing to see people try to break into that space yeah like why do you not want me to be happy why do you want to see me frown you don't know me so what is the reason that you want to see me fail so bad like what is the reason for you to want to take my smile away why why is it your mission every time you log into the internet on beyonce internet when you log in your account the first thing you try to figure out how to do is piss megan

estelle you know right what why why what the what's going on at home like to somebody you absolutely don't know right and i don't even be bothering nobody i don't even be running my accounts no more right so when i do when something do cross my desk i'll be like well what because i ain't even saying that like what what what's the gag like what what are you getting out of this because what happens meg is like sometimes people will start to tell a lie and they'll tell it so much they believe they don't start to believe it but guess what happens other people start telling that same lie for yeah i don't like that i don't like it either meg and people like well just turn to other i like it's easy for you to say because they're not talking about you right it's easy for

a person that's not in that situation and when you see because i i feel like you see a lot of people say oh i feel like these celebrities they only to clap back or if i was them i wouldn't do that y'all be commenting on shit for less yes yeah exactly you getting into it with people in your regular everyday you beating the shit out of people for talking bad about you right they barely say anything and you're ready to whoop something so you can't expect thousands of comments to be pouring in about somebody and they don't want to defend themselves that is very hard but i'm trying to master it i'm trying to be like my girl b she gonna be saying shit and i'll be like look i don't i'm trying to get there when you come back

to club shea shea 10 years from now okay come on 10 years 10 years what's to be some of Meg's most cherished accomplishments? Okay. We're going to pray that I have an Oscar. Okay. We're going to pray that I have. A husband. I'm praying. You want me to have a husband? Yeah. Don't you want a husband? Don't you want a family? I just want a nice person.

Oh, Lord. What? So you just want a husband? Don't you want a family? I just want a nice person. And... What? So you just want a relationship? I don't just want a relationship. I want to be with somebody who loves me. That's what I'm saying, yeah. Who cares about me. I want to really genuinely be happy.

You want a family? I do want a family. How many? I want like five kids. You are the only child and you want five kids? Yeah, because I know what it's like to be the only child and you want friends. My kids. I want my kids to be cool with each other.

I don't want them to have to be worried about everybody else being their fake ass friend. This your blood brother, your blood sister, this your damn friend. Us, we, our little group. That's what I want for me and my people. I mean, five with your career I mean you have to take a you have to take a break you ready to take a break you just getting started no I ain't gotta take a break

Cardi was performing pregnant you gonna be on stage seven eight months maybe with the Megan Nees too baby in there rocking nah nah nah I'm like where I'm at oh my god With the Meganese, too. Baby in there rocking. Nah, nah, nah. Everybody be like, where I'm at? Oh, my God.

That baby is going to dance out of me. Oh, my God. If you could talk to your 18-year-old self, what piece of advice would you have to give yourself? Oh, Lord. I'd tell my girl to keep doing what she's doing because that 18-year-old Megan was something else. They think this Megan crazy, bitch. 18-year-old Megan? Oh, you was on one, huh? I was on 10. Yeah. I be like wild.

People think I'm so wild and I'm so crazy. I'm calm, actually. Would you do reality TV? If I could have a show about myself, yes. What would it be about i got enough shit going on in my life that people could make an episode out of it every day so i actually would consider having a show about my then won't you have won't you have a crew to follow you around so we just finished my documentary and that was very hard for me because i'm not used to literally

a camera following me around all the goddamn time and they'll be like just do you just be natural and i'll be like bitch what what do that mean be natural in the camera by me how but i'm more open to it now right and i want and i definitely will like take into consideration having a show because at least people will see my real reaction and what i really feel and what's really happening from my perspective versus people making up shit that's completely untrue did you play sports growing up i played every sport for a day i did um why only a day well because, because, so I'm tall, right? Right.

So naturally, everybody wanted me to do something. They'd be like, Megan, you're so tall, you should play basketball. I'd be like, all right, let's try it. Get out there. Goddamn. Do you know what suicides are? Yes. This lady said, all right, y'all, y'all finna run a suicide.

I said, what that mean? Why so intense? That name is crazy. So I'm getting like, I see why. It it's called suicide you're killing yourself right running back and forth as many times so that was the first red flag yeah the second red flag was everybody chasing after me for this goddamn ball don't hit me like don't touch me so i was like you know what i like to watch this right but me doing it no i don't want to do all that running at the time your time at the time because but you exercise fanatic okay that's now but i'm saying at the time i wasn't understanding why we're doing all this damn

running and why y'all being so aggressive right so then i wanted to play tennis i thought i wanted to play tennis i got out there as a black girl my hair i used to want to straighten my hair every day for school and when i started going to tennis practice all that goddamn running sweated out i said girl y'all doing this on purpose so i said okay I like to watch this and I appreciate how hard y'all going this is real this is some cool shit y'all doing like but this it ain't for me because I wasn't passionate about it volleyball oh I just knew that was going to be the one it was like making you so tall you should come play volleyball I said okay cool let's try it I was down for the outfit I was so excited.

I think somebody might have hit me in the head with a volleyball. They spiked it on you. Oh, they got me good. And at the time, I just didn't understand that you're going to have to get hit a few times playing sports. But now, as much as I've been getting hit in these sports that I've been trying to play, now I'm figuring out you have to get hit. No. So I just stayed a dancer. I was a the album what can we expect you can expect a lot of shit talking uh you can expect you know me being vulnerable you can expect just a lot of hot girl shit it's just me finally it's just megan it's not

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