Club Shay Shay - Michael Blackson

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

Shannon welcomes in comedian, actor, writer & producer Michael Blackson.Listen & follow more FOX Sports podcasts: http://sprtspod.fox/applepodcasts#DoSomethinB4TwoSomethin & Follow Club Sh...ay Shay:                                                                 https://www.instagram.com/clubshayshayhttps://twitter.com/clubshayshayhttps://www.facebook.com/clubshayshayhttps://www.youtube.com/c/clubshayshay Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:02 Not my holler at one of my chicks. If it was one of my side chicks, it wouldn't matter. It's to try to holler at my fiance. So you're glad he got traded? The thing about Adam, oh yeah, I would been grinding all my life. All my life. Been grinding all my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Want a slice. Got the roll of dice. That's why all my life I've been grinding all my life. Hello, welcome to another edition of Club Shea Shea. I am your host, Shannon Sharp. I'm also the proprietor of Club Shea Shea and the guy
Starting point is 00:01:43 that's stopping by for conversation on the drink today. He's a comedian, an actor, writer, producer, podcaster. He calls himself the best-dressed comedian, the African king of comedy, Mr. Michael Blackstone. How you doing, man? Looking good, man. Man, you done pulled out so much.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I don't know how you get out of it. You had keys, you had cell phones, you had a garage door open. All of them tight-ass fans fucking how? This outfit was made on me, man. You know, I'm rich now. They come to my house and make the clothes on my body. Man, ain't nobody.
Starting point is 00:02:18 I'm trying to figure. What old lady you robbed and stole a shower? You're going to talk about me? He look like a thug and a nerd, my brother. You gonna rob me or email me, goddamn thick-ass glasses? When did Jesus come here? See, when he say that,
Starting point is 00:02:31 I'm gonna get on them ankles. You gonna come here with no socks and ankle like that. In California, it's supposed to be hot. Look here, we gotta talk. Hey, take this out. This is my own brand of Kanye. Okay. You know,
Starting point is 00:02:43 you my, I said a comedian, third comedian. Third? Yeah, but you. Okay. You know, you my second comedian, third comedian. Third? Yeah, but you my favorite. I like, I like, cause you was in what you call it, Friday? I was in the first, yeah, second Friday. You was in Friday, next Friday. Yeah, man, bruh.
Starting point is 00:02:54 You stole the scene with that one. I can't get jiggy with this. Where's your manager, that pig mother sucker? You look like that player here that sold me the shit. I've no damn receipt. Kiss my ass or what? Continued success, bro. Appreciate that, man.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Thank you. Shit better be good. If it ain't good. It's not bad. I know it ain't bad. I know it ain't bad. See? You don't even really know anything about good alcohol.
Starting point is 00:03:19 Being from Philly. Nah, I'm not. Don't talk shit about Philly. If you're out here, you know. Where you from? I'm from ATL. Ah, yeah. Yeah, okay. You what? You want to say anything bad about ATL? Yes, you guys were up by 20-something points in the Super Bowl and lost.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You know you got a dude to lose about that much points. Y'all won the Super Bowl, now you feeling good. Philly was- Finally, man. I was at that game. We finally did it. Trust me, I went through hell for many years. Did you cry? When we won? I'm a thug. I don't cry anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:51 You ain't a thug. How you a thug? I'm a thug, man. I've cried on probably very few occasions. You know what I'm saying? But yeah, no, I was very excited that day. I was at the game cheering. Went through hell.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I moved to excited that day. I was at the game cheering. Went through hell. I was, you know, I moved to Philly 1990, you know, so I suffered through the Randall Cunningham era all the way through McNabb. I mean, McNabb went through the NFC Championship game five years in a row, made it to one Super Bowl, and then he threw up. He threw up. So it was great.
Starting point is 00:04:23 But if anybody deserved to win a Super Bowl, it was the McNabs team. I feel so bad them guys didn't get the win. Nobody deserved it more than them. Westbrook and of course, you know, Dawkins and you know, Connors. Prada, Jeremiah. Jeremiah. I just want to tell you today. Y'all had T.O.?
Starting point is 00:04:40 Terrell Owens. That team was so well deserving of it. But you know, in 2018, we won it for them. That was for them. You were at the event the other night, Tuesday night, in which Dave Chappelle was on stage. And I don't call him a fan because fans don't do things like that. When the guy ran on stage and tried to tackle Dave Chappelle,
Starting point is 00:05:00 what was going through your mind when that happened as it's unfolding? I mean, it was so shocking. It happened so fast. You know, and I personally think this guy is a clout chaser. We're in a very clout chasing era. I mean, look at the Super Bowl. Somebody always make plans to jump down the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:05:18 and chase clout. You know, I'm not going to say this had anything to do with Will Smith, you know. I mean, making people comfortable enough to smack comedians. I mean, we have to be signed to, like, Death World Records now so we have protection. But it was very shocking. It happened really fast.
Starting point is 00:05:36 You know, at first I thought it was some kind of a joke, but then we realized it was real, you know. And I think that guy planned this because, you know, Dave was done his set. Right. You know, he I think that guy planned this because, you know, Dave was done his set. Right. You know, he's done his set, so now there's not much attention on him. Right. He's about to introduce somebody else, and boom, this guy jumps.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Everybody's relaxed. Everybody's relaxed. Let the guard down. So that was the third show that he was doing. Right. I think that guy was there, show one and show two, timed everything when he was going to do this thing. Right. That's what I feel. The way he did it and when he did it, he was going to do this thing. That's what I feel.
Starting point is 00:06:05 The way he did it and when he did it, it was a timing type of thing. Because I'm sure with the 18,000 seat venue, there should be security watching this guy, watching who's coming on stage. So they fell asleep for one second and this guy didn't move. That's all they took. You mentioned that you don't believe it had anything to do with the Will Smith-Chris Rock incident. When that incident happened, I don't know if you're seeing it live, but you saw the
Starting point is 00:06:27 replay. Did you think, like, man, that might be a skit, or did you know that was, man, this man actually slapped the ass out of Chris Rock? Yeah, when I saw it, you know, at first I thought it was some kind of a skit. Yeah. And then when Will Smith sat there and started cussing, I'm like, oh no, he's not cussing the Oscars as a skit. Yeah. And then when Will Smith sat there and started cussing, I'm like, oh no, he's not cussing at the Oscars as a skit.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Right. You know, yeah, that bothered me a lot. I lost a lot of respect. So what bothered you the most? That he actually did it or the not apologizing immediately after
Starting point is 00:06:59 or the continuous... That he actually did it. Oh my goodness. Actually did it on the biggest stage, the biggest night of his life You know, first of all, this award is being produced by Will Packer a black man, correct? Is that was sign that you was gonna get this award? Similar at Jackson was receiving an award right, you know, it was like it was just made for your big night I was a line perfect. Right and then and then this happens, you know, and
Starting point is 00:07:27 There were so many other things he could have done instead of that. Like, you know, cussing my wife while he was on stage. Hey, one more word about my wife, I'm going to come
Starting point is 00:07:33 fuck you up. Right. That would have been okay. Right. Or why, if we see him as a ward, go on stage, hey, and I'll appreciate
Starting point is 00:07:39 the joke about my wife, whatever. Right. But going and hitting him and, you know, because I felt like when he smacked Chris Rock, he smacked every comedian. Right. But going and hitting him and, you know, because I felt like when he smacked Chris Rock, he smacked every comedian.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Right. I felt like I got smacked because I go hard in the paint. Right. And I talk about people, you know, and I don't expect nobody to come on stage to hit me. Right. Because I made a joke. It just, at the end of this, it's words.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Did, it's hard to say because I don't know how you would, and we're gonna talk about your situation because you recently got engaged, but did you think the joke rose to the level that would warrant that kind of reaction? Not at all. That's why I sat back and I started thinking about it. I'm like, okay, let me see what he was thinking
Starting point is 00:08:18 to go and punch him. All right, the joke was about, you know, G.I. Jane. Give him more play to character. So now I'm going to go back to 2016 when they tried to boycott the Oscars. Right. All right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:34 He said, okay. He's not coming. There's not enough inclusiveness. There's not enough diversity. No, no, he also, Chris said on the. No, Will. Okay. Will was the one that boycotted.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Okay, it wasn't him and Jada. No, Will said he wasn't coming. Then Jada said she wasn... No, Will. Will was the one that boycotted. Okay, it wasn't him and Jada. No, Will said he wasn't coming. Then Jada said she wasn't coming. That's when Chris Rock said no one invited Jada. Right, he said it's like Rihanna's panties. Right, correct. He's not invited. That is correct, right.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Okay, and then we fast forward to this. Like, you know, me, you're not inviting me. You're not a great enough actress. Right. You're not big enough to come into the Oscar. You're right, to boy know, G.I. Me, you're not inviting me. You're not a great enough actress. Right. You're not big enough to come into the Oscar. Right, to boycott. Right. And then we come to 2022 and he says, you know, you can't do nothing but G.I. Jane.
Starting point is 00:09:13 That's the only thing you could do if anything came out. Right. Okay, maybe I'm thinking way deep. Right. I'm trying to find a reason why he smacked him. Right. That's the only thing I can think of. Like, okay, this guy's been
Starting point is 00:09:25 stalking my wife for years. He's telling my wife she can't be nothing. She would never do a movie unless G.I. Jane comes out. That's the only reason I can think why he would make him go and hit her. I guess it didn't dawn in on him right away because he laughed at first. That's the part.
Starting point is 00:09:41 He's laughing at the joke. He looks at her. She's not laughing. And then he feels he has to defend her honor, that he needs to go up there and do something because he made a joke. But, Mike, your girl knows you. She knows what will sit you off. She knows what that will make you upset.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Jada got to stop that. Yeah, my girl would have stopped it. Yeah, bro. You ain't nothing to do with all this money. My girl would have stopped it. Yeah, bro. Boy, you ain't nothing because of all this money. My girl would have stopped it. I had an ex. My ex was the type that would cost me
Starting point is 00:10:10 how to get our ass moved. Yeah. That's why she's an ex. Right. You know, we can't have a woman like that that, you know, we go out and she arguing
Starting point is 00:10:18 with big niggas bigger than me. Yeah. I'm like, bitch, you know. 6'8", 330. I'm 6, bitch, you know. Leave him alone. 6-8-3-30. I'm 6-8-1-30. I'm a crackhead compared to this guy.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Right. You know? And that's what, so I mean, my woman would have stopped, my current woman would have stopped me from going. Right. Knowing that, bro, this is not the time, this is not the place. It's a big night for you. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:10:46 This was a night ideal for you. And it's sad that he won the Oscar, but his actions overshadowed that moment. And forever, forever, those Oscars will be known as the Will Smith, Chris Rock Oscars. And I think if he would have apologized to Chris at that moment, it might have been a little bit better. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It wouldn't have definitely... Yeah, you can't apologize to the... Bruh, you slapped the man, but you don't apologize to him? But hold on, this is your brother. He from Philly. You from Philly. He's light-skinned. You don't count light-skinned brothers?
Starting point is 00:11:23 Dark-skinned brother have to stick together. I'm riding with Chris. And I'm a comedian. It's my job. We have the same job. I go hard in pain on social media, on people. I talk about people. So I feel, you know,
Starting point is 00:11:36 and I don't give anybody no right to come and hit me. Has that changed the way you do your show? Nah, I can't change because of that. You know, I mean, I would love to get a Will Smith to slap me, because I'd sue for a lot of money. My luck, I get a lot. And then you'd be done doing comedy. Oh man, let me tell you, he would be so broke,
Starting point is 00:11:51 Will Smith would have to move back with his uncle, auntie, and belt. That's how broke he's gonna be. He gonna go back to Uncle Phil's house, living right next door to Carlton. Let's just say for the sake of argument, Michael Blackson, he's hosting the Oscars. It's a big time thing.
Starting point is 00:12:08 There's not been very many of us that's gotten an opportunity to host the Oscars. And you up there, you tell a joke. And you know, you guys are to lighten the mood. Okay, this is Hollywood's brightest, best and brightest. And you got to bring them down a little bit because everybody in there talks, you know, everybody in there,
Starting point is 00:12:23 by all guys, hold on. Y'all not all of that. So I crack off a joke you crack off a joke Somebody walks up there. How's Michael Blackson handle that situation? Well after watching what happened and we know anything is possible. Yeah I'm running Now if it's a you know, cuz I Mean Chris why I handled it. It's like such a pro. Yeah. Yeah A lot of people might not have handled it like that. So mature, so grown, because it could have been a disaster. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:50 You know, it could have been a real bad disaster. If I'm hosting, that's the shortest Oscars ever. But they also said, hey, his ticket price went from $80 to $400. I'm telling you, I'm going to the next Oscar, grab the mic, and cuss everybody's wife out. Steven Spielberg, your wife a caca bitch. Please come slap me. I need some money, please. I need my ticket price to go up.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Brad Pitt, your wife is Henneken, whatever. So when the guy jumps on the stage, he tries to tackle Dave Chappelle. He gets beat down. Now he's at, I mean, you see the photos of his arm. His arm wasn't made to bend that way. No, no, no, this guy. He's got a patch over his eye
Starting point is 00:13:29 that's been closed for at least two weeks. Definitely, he went from a regular guy to a pirate in two days. Yeah. Now he got two left arms. Now he walking backwards. Yeah. You know, I hate violence.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Right. Period, you know what I hate violence. Right. Period. You know what I'm saying? But maybe he needed to be an example. You can't be coming on stage to attack anybody for no reason. And it's not like he, it's not like David did a joke and this joke offended this guy. This is something he planned to do. Because the show was over.
Starting point is 00:13:59 Right. It's like he made a particular joke and he jumped right at that joke. So we don't know why was he jumping besides, was it cloud chasing? Was he sent to do this? And somebody sent him to do this. Do you? Because it came out today
Starting point is 00:14:14 that he was not, that he's not being charged with any felony. With a felony, right. It's a misdemeanor. Do you think social media, because we see people, the guy agitating Mike Tyson,
Starting point is 00:14:26 and we see these people, someone prominent, and it's recorded. So obviously, they're doing this with the intent of getting this out. I mean, when I go somewhere, I'm not recording anything. I'm not expecting to have an encounter. I'm not going to put myself or place someone else in a situation that I feel I need to record the situation. Do you think social media has brought a lot of this out? Oh, definitely, man.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Social media is like a curse and a blessing at the same time. It's a blessing for us because it's our own television show. Right. You know, we get...
Starting point is 00:14:58 Your own platform. You put out... Michael Blackford can put out whatever he wants. I became rich because of social media. Right. At the same time, you know...
Starting point is 00:15:05 You rich? I'm getter rich. Okay, yeah, yeah. Like, I got a Rolls Royce, and I'm still living with my mother. You ain't got no Rolls Royce. I got a Cullinan, but I still live with my mother. I'm getter rich. I'm rich.
Starting point is 00:15:15 No, no, I made it in life. I came from nothing. I'm very successful. You went to culinary school. That's what you said? No, motherfucker. Don't be a hater. Oh, my bad.
Starting point is 00:15:21 You said culinary. No, culinary is a Rolls Royce truck. That's what I drive. That's what you drive? Yes. That's my squatter. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Carry on. No, no, no. So social media helped me get to where I am today. At the same time, some of you say social media has hurt me in the past. You know, you do anything, boom, it's out there. Right. You know, somebody took a picture of you.
Starting point is 00:15:44 If you're out with another woman instead of your woman, boom, next thing you know, your picture's on there with this other woman. Right. So at the end of the day, you got to take it for what it is, and you got to take the good and the bad. Right. Why do you like trolling so much? You see Drake, a guy respond to Drake,
Starting point is 00:15:59 says something coy to Drake, Drake trolls him back by start following his wife, slide her DMs, say, hey, you seem like you need, you know, you lonely, holler at your boy, whatever. Why you troll? Why you troll? My whole life, I've been bullied my whole life. You know, I came from another country.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Right. I came to America at 13 years old. Did you speak English? Yeah, I came from an English-speaking country. Okay. Came here at 13 years old as Did you speak English? Yeah, I came from an English-speaking country. Okay. Came here at 13 years old as a kid, and I came, like, we're talking about, like, late 80s, where it wasn't about
Starting point is 00:16:32 being dark-skinned. Right. It was, you know, and I had an accent. Kids made fun of me every day, you know, and then when I finally got comfortable with myself, which took many years, you know, of learning what it takes to fit in. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I mean, a lot of things I didn't know about myself until I came to America. America was like that apple that God said, don't eat the apple. Right. America's like, y'all ate all that damn apple. And now y'all see things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Y'all see things y'all shouldn't be saying or talking about. Right. Like I said, I had no idea I was dark skinned until I came here. Yeah. Not like I was in my village thinking I was red boned or nothing. Right. Like I said, I had no idea I was dark skinned until I came here. Yeah. Not like I was in my village thinking I was red boned or nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:06 Right. But the kids let me know. I remember hanging out with some kids. They said, you black? I said, of course,
Starting point is 00:17:12 we're all black. They said, no, you black as hell. I mean, they told me I look like under the bed. That's dark as hell.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Have you looked under the bed lately? They told me I look like I have no bright ideas. They said, the difference between me and midnight is is 1159. You that dark? They said when God said, let there be light, I was out of town. They told me Stevie Wonder sees me every day.
Starting point is 00:17:35 That's dark as hell. Stevie don't see a damn thing. So is that why you became a comedian? To get them up off you? Yes. So what I learned is I took everything they said about me and I flipped it around and accepted it. And now I make fun of myself.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Right. And then now I make fun of everybody. So now if I can make fun of myself, I don't really care about anybody else. So I'm just giving back what I've been giving my whole life. I'm like, yeah, I became a hater. I roast everybody. Anything that happens, I'm on top of it. I'm like, yeah, I became a hater. I roast everybody. Anything that happens,
Starting point is 00:18:05 I'm on top of it. I follow you on social media and I saw where you recently got engaged. Yes. But you love women, Mike. I love women. And I established that
Starting point is 00:18:14 from the beginning of this relationship. I realized after my last relationship, I dated a beautiful woman for four years. And my whole life, I've never been faithful.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Any of my exes watching, yes, I cheated on all of you. And you lied to them, huh? I lied. Man, I lie so much, man, I don't even know what the truth is. I cheated on every woman I was with. And when I realized that after my last relationship, when she left me because, you know, she got tired of me cheating,
Starting point is 00:18:42 then I realized to myself, I can't be faithful. So I said, if anybody come around, I'm like, listen, I'm done with the relationship, but I'm going to tell you right now, I cannot be, I'm not going to show you
Starting point is 00:18:52 what's in my blood. You know, my mother told me my dad was an alcoholic and he had a lot of women. I'm not an alcoholic. I'm not a drinker, but I mean, I like a lot of women.
Starting point is 00:19:03 So we, my lady came in agreement. You know, originally we had agreement on like once a month I like a lot of women. So we, my lady came in agreement. You know, originally we had agreement on like, once a month I could do whatever I want. Have whatever I want. And you know, it's something, and I realized that, you know, it's something you could establish
Starting point is 00:19:15 in the beginning of a relationship. Every man has our biggest problem, infidelity. Right. And we have to, we could, we in an era where we could actually get an agreement made. But everybody said that. Everybody's like, well, you know, tell me what you want. Give me the opportunity to make a choice.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yes. But most of us are afraid of the choice that she will make that won't include us. You weren't afraid of that. Yeah, because we rich. Brooke niggas can't do this. Brooke man got no choice. He can't even afford a woman his way. How you going to cheat with somebody else?
Starting point is 00:19:51 I have a lot of young athletes, 22 years old, 23 years old, and I meet them, I say, listen, get this established from the beginning of your relationship. You making 10, 20 million dollars a year. You line up 10 women and tell them, hey, you know, you be my woman, but once in a while I like to do what I want to do,
Starting point is 00:20:08 80% would accept it, if not all of them. Right. You know, at the end of the day, a woman would take her bills being paid from a rich man of cheese and a broke man of paper.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Don't you just want to like, you know what, honey, I'm home. Just, ah know what? Honey, I'm home. Just, ah, damn, babe, I missed you. How was your day, babe? Don't you want that? Yes, I have that. That's on Tuesday and Wednesday and Thursday.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And Friday and Saturday. Bitches, I'm home. Nah, I'm being serious, man. Do you ever think like... I'm dead serious. My lady just left. I got a side chick coming tonight. She knows that.
Starting point is 00:20:48 You don't feel bad? You don't feel guilty? I understand... For being honest? I understand that you're honest. You told her, say, this is what it is. But a part of you is like,
Starting point is 00:20:59 well, damn. But hold on. How would you feel if she said, look, okay, Mike, we're going to do this. But you know, hey... Nah. Oh, you feel if she said, look, okay, Mike, we're going to do this, but you're no age. Nah.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Whoa! What you mean, nah? Women are so much more emotional. Man, we could bang ten women and not have feelings. Women are different. Women are emotional. They cannot do the things they want. What if she just had one?
Starting point is 00:21:21 She don't want ten. She just want one. Nah, because she could next, she might have to decide between them, because she might be emotionally attached and she's going to get confused. No, it's not an agreement. The agreement is not for you to have something where you won. This agreement, this is what I came with.
Starting point is 00:21:40 If you want that, if you want to do the same thing, then we could just be friends. I can't be putting a ring on your finger while somebody else is banging you over. Looking at my ring. Babe, what's wrong with you? Looking at my tattoos on your back while he tearing you up.
Starting point is 00:21:56 Hold on. Just, babe. So did you try to be faithful? When you first met her, you're like, okay. Oh, no, when I met her. You talking about the rip? Oh, when first met her, you're like, oh. Oh, no. When I met her. You told about the rip? Oh, when I met her, I had chicks with me.
Starting point is 00:22:09 I mean, the first time she met me, the next time we met up, a couple of my other chicks came, and we all hung out. Right. And we had fun. It's my lifestyle now. You know, I told her from the rip. There ain't no in-between, nothing. I've been honest from the rip. But Mike, don't you think you like,
Starting point is 00:22:27 don't you age out of this? Nah. I'm faithful to her. My dick's not. So, I mean, I'm thinking, now look, how old you, 45? 47. 47.
Starting point is 00:22:43 You don't think, okay, what about at 50? Say, you know what, I've done this, I had a great life. I've had 37, you know, 33, 34, 35 years of this. You know what, baby, I'm coming home. I see that happening by 69, 70. 69? You ain't gonna be able to do nothing. You gonna be wheeling your ride.
Starting point is 00:23:02 What you wanna do, wheel you to your side chick? That's when we gonna meet again. You have baby, I'm almost dead. I'm all yours. Let's get married. Let me ask you this. Talk to me. What made her the one, what made you decide to settle down with her?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Cause she was, I guess she was the first one that accepted that. You know, and she's a great woman too. Smart, loving, could cook. She does everything. She's just a wonderful woman. You want kids? Intelligent.
Starting point is 00:23:32 Nah, nah. I have kids and, you know, I have kids already. Right now, we just having fun. You just having fun. You get to travel. You ain't got to worry about you. You ain't got to worry about no Google Gaga, little doo doo pampers, all that stuff. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Yes, talk to me. Is this true? I heard Ben Simmons, you from Phers, all of that stuff. Hold on. Yes, talk to me. Is this true? I heard Ben Simmons, you from Philly, Ben played in Philly, tried to holler at one of your chicks. Not my holler at one of my chicks. If it was one of my side chicks, it don't matter. It's to try to holler at my fiance.
Starting point is 00:23:56 The one you with now? Yes. Did he not know that was your fiance? Knew, 100% knew. And the thing about it, when it first happened, when she told me, because I remember one time, you know, me and Ben, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:11 he tried to make it seem to her when she asked him about it. Like, isn't Mike your friend? He tried to make it seem like we just, like, we not, oh, not, you know. Hold on, he didn't, hold on. He denied me. He tried to smash. He denied the friendship. He denied our friendship.
Starting point is 00:24:21 I can show you 20 pictures of me and this guy from the day he got drafted to like us hanging out, parties, this, going to games together. I mean, I would fly out. He was like my homie. He's like my little brother, my little light-skinned brother.
Starting point is 00:24:38 But, you know, so yeah, he tried to holler. So the first time she told me, because I remember it was during Super Bowl week. That's when the Chiefs played 49ers. It was in Miami. Right. And that same weekend, I went to the game, to the Super Bowl game.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And I think the next day, Sixers played Miami. So I remember going to the game. After the game, Miami kicked their ass that day. Right. Whooped their ass. So I remember after the game, I stayed afterwards. I was talking to them. That's when he was dating one of the Kardashians. Kardashians. And I remember after the game, I was, you know, I stayed afterwards, you know, I was talking to them. That's when he was dating
Starting point is 00:25:05 one of the Kardashians. Kardashians. And I said, hey, Ben, meet my, Kendall, I said, hey, meet my girl,
Starting point is 00:25:11 meet my lady, Radha, you know, and then we, you know, So you introduced him? Yes, he introduced him.
Starting point is 00:25:17 That was then, right? Oh, no. This ain't no situation where he see the chick and like, man,
Starting point is 00:25:22 she fly. Ooh, ooh. You actually introduced him. I introduced this guy, right? So, but then when we went back to the hotel, she said, Mike, I think he, he's been in her DM already.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Right. He seen her on social media with me. Right. I've hooked him up with a lot of my female friends. He be like, hey, who's this chick? I be like, I don't know her, I got you. And I hook him up. I've hooked him up in the past.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And he knew that was my lady. So I'm out going back to the hotel, she's like, Mike, I think this guy was in my DM. I'm like, he send me a whole lot of chicks. He probably just throw you one of my side chicks, whatever. And we fast forward like months later, this guy's still trying to holler at her. Right, that's when she took me, and I'm not sure what was the situation, And we fast forward like months later, this guy's still trying to holler at her. Right?
Starting point is 00:26:05 That's when she took me, you know, and I think, I'm not sure what was the situation, I think the Jenna girl was done then. And then he tried, he said he tried to holler at me. And then he tried to use, like he knew she was a real estate agent. Right. So he tried to act like he's trying to buy a house.
Starting point is 00:26:22 He bought a house. Just to like, for her to come. And then, you know, he's like, isn't he trying to buy a house. He bought a house. Just for her to come. And then he's like, he's trying to holler at me, isn't Mike your homie? I said, well, we're not friends like that. And that's when I was pretty much done with him. Because he still hold me a million times.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I even took her to a party. One of his parties in LA. He knew he was my girl. And guess what, he hasn't played basketball since he tried to holler at my woman, has he? Man, that's dirty. Dirty. So, but y'all not cool?
Starting point is 00:26:48 I know. So, what if you say, Mike, my bad, bro? The thing about it, he had opportunities to do that. He'd be like, you know, my bad. You know, I would just, you know what I mean? Y'all was drunk, bro. You know, hey, hey, bro. You know, we and you cool.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah, he had opportunities to do that. But instead, he tried to make it, you know, he tried to make it more like, you know, I mean, you don't know what's going on, yada, yada. He tried to, oh, man. Lost all respect for him. So you're glad he got traded? The thing about Adam, oh, yeah, I would have traded him for like a Subway sandwich.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I'm like, get anything for the guy. Walmart, gift card, do anything. Just get rid of him. And, you know, I didn't have to roast him anymore. The whole world is roasting him. Right. The whole world. Well now you got James Harden.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Bede is, he might play game three, might not, might, probably will play. I mean we worked so hard to get here, you know, and to have him be heard, you know, and I don't know what happened. Why this guy was playing with about 20 what? Almost 30 points? Almost 29 points.
Starting point is 00:27:50 We're like four minutes to go. Oh, God. I guess they wanted to seal that game. Right. They wanted to get it over with, you know. So I can understand that. But goodness, you know, look what happened. But, you know, one man don't stop a show.
Starting point is 00:28:01 I still expect everybody to step up and play. But we're not. We're getting our ass kicked every night. So, you know, one thing about Harden, I mean,
Starting point is 00:28:10 that game, that game where they did one Harden did step up, so I think, you know, the pressure is coming on him. Right. You know,
Starting point is 00:28:16 he has to take over, you know, and I mean, don't get it wrong, he's still not a 25-year-old Harden, too. He's still,
Starting point is 00:28:24 you know, 33, 34. He's been not a 25-year-old Harden, too. He's still, you know, 33, 34. He's been playing a lot, you know. But we expect him to step it up. You know, game three, whether Embiid is playing or not, at least give us 30 points. Give me 35 points. Do your part.
Starting point is 00:28:43 And I think he's going to step up. I expect things to change. If they don't change. he's going to step up. I expect things to change. If they don't change. I'm going to the game on Sunday. I'm going to game four. I'm off on Sunday from tour. I'm going to go to game four. And I expect them to win game three and four. You expect them to?
Starting point is 00:28:59 I mean, I hope. Without Joel Embiid? You expect them to win without Joe? I mean, the Philly audience is going to, I mean, they're going to have our backs. They're going to have, we. Well, who can make a jump shot in the audience, in the stands? Can you shoot? In the dark, yes.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Turn the lights off. I'm winning everything. I'm undefeated at night. Are you an Eagles fan? 100%. 100% Eagles. Okay. Traded for A.J. Brown.
Starting point is 00:29:25 You got Devontae. Jalen Hurts comes back. That's his team. They got, you know, you guys got some good picks in the draft this year. Yeah. Kobe Dean, Jordan Davis. You guys going to beat the Cowboys this year? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:39 It's all on, I mean, the quarterback has no excuses now. Give you how to receive what you need. Yeah. Give you a $100 million guy. Yep. He still had Devontae. Yep. You know,
Starting point is 00:29:49 still got a decent tight end. Mm-hmm. There's no excuse. So it's all about, now we're going to really test the quarterback. Are you going to beat the Cowboys? That's what I need to know.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Are you going to beat the Dallas Cowboys? Is Michael and Cowboys losing to the Eagles this year? They're going to lose that. We'll definitely beat them at home. I can't tell you what's going to happen in Dallas year. They're going to lose that. We'll definitely beat them at home. I can't tell you what's going to happen in dollars. Y'all going to beat them at home?
Starting point is 00:30:09 We're going to beat them at home. You know what happened last time that Cowboys played y'all at home? Yeah, I remember what happened, but we didn't have all the pieces that we have now. You related to Eli Apple? It's my little nephew. Youngest sister's son. You serious? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's my youngest sister's son. So how does it make you feel when they're making memes of him? And they be roasting him. You know they be roasting him. You follow him. Yes. You know they be roasting him. Well, you know, yes.
Starting point is 00:30:40 And I've told him, you know, we came from a very humble place. Right. We came from Africa with absolutely nothing. Right. You know, to be where we are today, you know, is all glory to God. And he has to be a little bit more humble than that. And, you know, Eli, you know, he grew up with a single mother, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:07 till she got married to the step-pop. Right. Who helped raise him and got him where he is to today. But I think, and she got moving back. I think she's moving back where you got her from. Yeah, she moved to Ghana. She bought a place there. You know, last time we were there, she bought a place.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Right. Yeah, so, you know, he just, he's a place right yeah so you know he just he's a I'm not sure you're going to call it cocky I'm not sure what you're going to call it but I've
Starting point is 00:31:30 I've you know talked to him a few times like you know you can my biggest problem I had with him was the whole thing he talked about New Orleans I'm like
Starting point is 00:31:37 what are you doing even the Giants when he when he when it's when it's over with the Giants right I'm like these guys
Starting point is 00:31:43 drafted you 10th pick over all right made you a million and many times over immediately like you have to when he when it's when it's over with the Giants right I'm like these guys drafted you 10th pick overall right made you a millionaire many times over immediately like you have to even when it was time for you to go
Starting point is 00:31:50 you have to show them respect right thank you for giving me this opportunity you know but he just you know he is what
Starting point is 00:31:56 he's a grown man he's not a kid you know so I can't go answering questions for him but you know I was just I just want him to be a little bit more humble especially
Starting point is 00:32:04 I didn't like what he said about New Orleans. Right. You know, I'm like, you know, they know I have to go to the city and work. You don't be talking crap about no city. These people give you opportunities. Right. You have to, you know, and I think he learned his lesson from the Super Bowl. You know, he went to the game feeling this and, you know, talking about the hill and
Starting point is 00:32:23 all of that. Yeah, well, he had talking about the big Kansas City. Right. I mean, don't get it wrong. He made some plays in the playoffs that helped them got to where they are today. That's why. But wait until you cross the finish line.
Starting point is 00:32:35 Please. Before you start celebrating. Yes. And hopefully he learned his lesson. Right. Because he went up there, cocky, did all that stuff, and he got humbled by, what's the kid named that day? Cooper Cup.
Starting point is 00:32:46 Cooper Cup, yeah. So are you a Bengals fan now? I mean, yeah. I mean, you got to root for family, you know. I mean, if the Eagles are playing the Bengals, I'd be in islands with you. I'd be rooting for the Eagles. What the hell? You all up wallowing.
Starting point is 00:32:59 How do you do that? You said they're family. Yeah, I mean. Oh, you want him to do well, but you just don't want the Eagles to win. If they play my team, I'm cheering for the Eagles. I feel so bad, but that's my heart is that. That's my team. He could move.
Starting point is 00:33:13 He could be in another city tomorrow. Then what? I'm going to still check for the Bengals? I was a Saints fan when he was there, but he's not with the Saints anymore. He's there now. I can't be running my emotions around. I'm treating him like a hoe. I'm an Eagles fan first. Eagles is my main
Starting point is 00:33:28 chick. The rest of the team you go to are my side chicks. Okay. We know you like side chicks. There's another famous comedian from Philly. He's probably the most famous comedian from Philly. Yes. K-Heart. You and him had a beef. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:44 What started the beef and have you put it to bed? Yeah, we put it to bed. What started it? I got a feeling you started it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do you mean, yeah, yeah, yeah? You're supposed to say, nah, let me tell you what happened. No, no, I didn't start the beef.
Starting point is 00:33:59 I pretty much make fun of everything that happens. That's what I do. Yeah. You know, it goes back to like when I first got on YouTube and social media. It was like 2011. I had a show called Black Friday. I sat on my couch, just like you, and made fun of everybody that messed up that week. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:20 That's what I did. If you did something, I would have lit you up. You know what I'm saying? And it was a situation. situation was when he got caught In fact, I made fun of him snitching on himself Because you know, I guess he had a feeling something about to come out about him having an affair, right? and he got on on Social media, you know and the way he he was trying to explain himself prior to the news coming out
Starting point is 00:34:46 is what I made fun of. I didn't make fun of him cheating. I cheat all the time. You know what I'm saying? So I can't make fun of people cheating. It's just the way he did it. Me being a comedian. But you can't cheat. You can't make fun of the homie. That one you just let slide. You just let that one go, Mike. I mean, yeah, you just let that one
Starting point is 00:35:01 go. And then they're going to be like, Mike, you can't be picking and choosing. Yes, you can. Oh, no. Yeah, you can't do the homie. That's the homie. Yeah, everybody was getting homie. You know what I mean? He just felt like I probably went a little bit more than everybody else did.
Starting point is 00:35:17 His own homie was making fun of me. Yeah, his own homie went out of him. Yeah, man. I make fun of everybody, man. My mom, my dad, they all going to get it. So y'all got together, y'all came together like grown men, squashed this beef? Yeah, we squashed it. It was good.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah, yeah, we good. You know, he just, I mean, we didn't have to apologize to nothing. You know, we understood. I understood where he was coming from, and he understood where I'm coming from because he just know I might just go in and go in and goes in. So we could have kept my homie. Yeah, kept good people. I don't know about you, but it remains to be seen. I'll let you know at the end of this interview what I think of you.
Starting point is 00:35:55 Meek, that's your homie from Philly. Where you put Meek in the pantheon of rappers, today's rappers? Oh, man, you know, Meek, me and Meek was really, really, we had one point where me and Meek was like not friends either. Right. And you know what it had to do with? What it had to do with? A woman? A woman. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It had to do with with what I told you before about how sometimes women will get you in trouble without you even knowing.
Starting point is 00:36:28 Right. There's an ex-house where they're almost like, me and Meek was like good friends. We good now. We great now. Right. But we went through a little stomping block. You know why?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Why? This is what happened. I remember the time Meek was going through the thing with Drake. Yeah. Right? Everybody clowning Meek. I remember the time Meek was going through the thing with Drake. Yeah. Right? Everybody clowning Meek. I wasn't touching him. Why not?
Starting point is 00:36:51 No, no, no. Here's my thing. My thing, I didn't clown him the way people were clowning him. My thing, if I'm going to make a joke about somebody, I make sure that person laughs. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I made a joke, but it wasn't nothing in a harsh way. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I made a joke, but it wasn't nothing
Starting point is 00:37:06 in a harsh way. Right. You know, so I remember it was not a great time in his life because, you know, that whole thing
Starting point is 00:37:15 with the song that he made and the one Drake made, whatever. So I remember going to a Christmas benefit, right, in Philly.
Starting point is 00:37:25 And then, you know, they took a picture. Meek was there, I was there. We took a picture, you know, and then I remember a guy in a car was driving and my lady at the time, I said, hey, post this picture for me on IG and just put it on there. Me, Nicki's boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:37:43 He was dating Nicki Minaj at the time. I said, put Nicki's boyfriend and just leave it as that. Keep it simple. Right. Because pretty much what I was trying to tell him is like, hey, Nicki's more important than you. Right. You know, I was keeping it nice and simple and, you know, in a cool way where he's not, you know what I mean? I wasn't touching the whole Drake thing.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Right. Because that's like career type of thing. Right. You know, I don't want to fuck up nobody's thing. Right. You know, I don't, I'm not gonna, I don't wanna fuck up nobody's money. Right. So I, this woman types on there because I think
Starting point is 00:38:09 she didn't like Nick. And I didn't know that until she typing in. Something about, she, whatever they ended with, the dude that Drake destroyed or something.
Starting point is 00:38:21 What? My God. So I have no clue. I'm driving. All of a sudden, my phone's going crazy. It's like mixed people that I'm cool with. They're like,
Starting point is 00:38:31 you know, I'm getting threats. And I'm like, what the hell's going on? I'm like, what you post this for? I didn't tell you to do that. These are my people.
Starting point is 00:38:37 You have me, put me in a jam. Right. What you do that? You know, and then like right away, I was so pissed at her. That's how sometimes, you know, your partner can get you in some serious shit. Yes? You know, and then like right away I was so pissed at her. That's how sometimes,
Starting point is 00:38:45 you know, your partner can get you in some serious shit. Yes. You know, but I was also the one that kind of like made things a little bit better.
Starting point is 00:38:53 I remember even at that point 50 tried to go and I think I made a joke and it kind of like squashed everything because whatever joke that I made,
Starting point is 00:39:02 he reposted it. Right. And then we know from then we've been good since then. You know what I mean? But I never talked about it before. I never talked about it once on a big interview
Starting point is 00:39:10 because even though my lady did it, I didn't tell the guy, I said, I didn't do this. Right. I was going to act like a little bitch,
Starting point is 00:39:16 like, oh, my lady did that. I wasn't going to put it on her. I'm just going to be like, I'm a comedian. It's a joke, whatever. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:39:22 what you do that for? But she couldn't ride no more. She died at the end of the night. It was getting to the end of, whatever. I'm like, what you do that for? But she couldn't ride no more. She died at the end of the night. It was getting to the end of our relationship. I'm like, this woman here would get me killed. Yeah. No man need to be the woman that could get him murdered. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Although, how did you end up on Joe Brown? That was a long time ago. So, yeah, I had, so it was back, in fact, you know what happened? It happened the same week Michael Jackson passed away. Okay. Because I remember I was, that's when I went to the court. But originally I had a show booked with these guys in, somewhere in Indiana, some college. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And when they called me to do the show, after I took a deposit and everything, a week later I got a phone call from Martin Lawrence. He was doing a show called First Amendment. It was a stand-up comedy show that came on, I wanna say stars, it came on stars I think. And you know, as an artist, television's always more important than a regular appearance.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Even a regular appearance might pay you twice the amount. Right. When you get on TV. You get in front of TV, yeah. You're worth more. Right. Every time you become on TV, your price go up. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And the right choice to do is to cancel a regular show for a television show. Right. I canceled a show with the guys. You sent a deposit back? Well, no. I didn't send a deposit back because I was replacing myself with two other guys. I got two for the price of one. No, no, no, that wasn't an agreement.
Starting point is 00:40:53 They didn't send you the deposit for you to send two other guys. They sent the deposit for you. But it was at the point where they pretty much had no choices. The show was in like a week, and I thought I'd send them two good caliber comedians. You know, and the deposit really goes towards,
Starting point is 00:41:10 you know, it's usually half the money. So some has to go to travel and hotel. Right. And then the artist himself, whoever. So pretty much,
Starting point is 00:41:17 you know, most of that deposit was going to go to whoever I was replacing myself with. Right. They agreed to it and then when they realized that their audience got upset after the show because they didn't get Michael Blackson, that's when they decided to with. Right. They agreed to it and then when they realized that their audience
Starting point is 00:41:25 got upset after the show because they didn't get Michael Blackson, that's when they decided to sue. Right. So when you have a lawsuit, a lot of time, you know,
Starting point is 00:41:34 a court TV show with contact, Yeah. because they'll get a hold of those papers. They'll get a hold of those things from the courts. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:41 And they'll ask you, hey, you rather bring this here or fly you in, you know, make sure you're good. So I decided, you know what, I'd rather go to a TV court than go somewhere in courts. Right. And they'll ask you, hey, you rather bring this here, we'll fly you in, you know, make sure you good. Right. So I decided, you know what, I'd rather go to a TV court than go somewhere in Indiana. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:50 And I didn't want no problem moving to Indiana. Right. So I chose television. Did you win? Nah, nigga. I didn't win. Yeah, but you thought you would go in? I mean, hey, my thing, I thought he accepted what I gave him.
Starting point is 00:42:06 You know, he had no choice. Back was against the wall. He had no choice but to accept it. But he got his money, man. He got my new suit. Hold on. I lost the case. It was a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Give me one word to describe Philly. Oh, God. You know what? I love Philly. You out here in L.A. more than you in Philly. I know. If I never moved to Philly, we would not be sitting here right now.
Starting point is 00:42:33 You ain't moving back to Philly. I got a house in Delaware, which is like suburb of Philly, tax purposes. You got to be smart with your money. Yeah. But I go home every time. I got a home there, and I go home at least once a month. But, I mean, we come to Hollywood because to get to the next level.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Right. You know, it's not going to happen there. I mean, Will Smith moved here. Kevin Hart, everybody moved. Because you're right here. Everything that you need to do. Is right here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:59 But Philly, how can I describe Philly, man? Passionate. Right. The fans are passionate. the fans are passionate the people are passionate it's a great city you know Philly changed my life you know
Starting point is 00:43:15 if you know it's actually my first stomping ground was Newark, New Jersey Newark was rough you know and Newark is where
Starting point is 00:43:21 I got roasted the most it's where you know by the time I got to Philly I already knew what I, you know, by the time I got to Philly, I already knew what it took to fit in. Right. So when I got to Philly, it was a little bit more easier, but my mother was able to get a job in Philly.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I was able to get a job at 15 years old. Things were a little bit easier in Philly than it was in Jersey. Right. So when I got to Philly, I felt more at home. Right. You know, so Philly, I have nothing but love for Philadelphia for the rest of my life.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Growing up, you're from Ghana, if I'm not mistaken, right? Ghana, Liberia, you know, so Philly, I have nothing but love for Philadelphia for the rest of my life. Growing up, you're from Ghana, if I'm not mistaken. Ghana, Liberia, you know, those are my two countries. OK. And I see you go home. You go home a lot. Yeah. I fell in love with Ghana all over again, man. You know, I mean, what probably did it? You know, we're all especially with the whole thing that went down. We enjoyed Florida, all that stuff that went down. It made me feel like, you know, I mean, maybe Africa is where we really, is where I need to put my concentration on.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Because at one point I felt like, you know, was America really for black people? Right. I felt that way at one time, you know. But it was emotional with everything that was going on, you know. And I sat and I thought about everything, you know. And I was like, you know, let me get a home at home just in case I need to run away. So I got a home there. I go home every other month. But the most important thing I'm doing at home is I'm building a school. Did you know that? No, I did not know that. You don't find
Starting point is 00:44:38 all the fucked up shit and you can find what I did. Oh, hello. You got a home in Delaware. You got a home in Philly. you got a home in Ghana. I'm about to start telling jokes. I'm about to get me a, I'm about to start telling me some jokes. I ain't got but one home. You got three. So?
Starting point is 00:44:56 You hating? I'm building a school in Ghana, did you know that? I'm giving back, I'm building a school in the village. Now one thing about Ghana, on most of Africa, you know, we have like government schools, we just consider public schools, and they have private schools. Government schools are the ones that are supposed to be free,
Starting point is 00:45:12 but they still got a few expenses here and there. You know, those fill up fast, or they're overcrowded with kids. And then if you don't get any time, and you can't afford to go to school, guess what happen? You don't go to school. You just hang around the marketplace, help your mother, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Right. So I said to myself, you know... You're going to set up a school. I'm going to get a private school and let all the kids get a scholarship. How many students will be allowed to go to your school? 200. I'm looking at it's going to be equivalent to like first or ninth grade.
Starting point is 00:45:41 They recently made 10th, 11th, 12th grade free. Okay. So I'm like, let me go to the one that's not free. Right. Which is first or ninth grade. They recently made 10th, 11th, 12th grade free. Okay. So I'm like, let me go to the one that's not free. Right. Which is first to ninth. And maybe 25 kids per class. Right. And then let them all get a scholarship.
Starting point is 00:45:54 You know, where I'll be pretty much paying for this out of my pocket. That's amazing. Yeah. You'll be blessed for that. Did you always want to do that? What made you decide to say, you know what, I want to build a school?
Starting point is 00:46:04 This is why I did it. So when I came to the States, I didn't get to go back to Africa until about 15 years later. Wow. I went 15 years where I seen my brothers and sisters. Okay. You know, because people don't understand. You know, this thing is easy. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Especially coming from a black continent. To come to America is the hardest place to get a visa to. At one point, I finally made some money after doing Next Friday. I bought all my brothers and them plane tickets to come to America. They went to go get a visa and they got denied. You get denied 90% of the time. Jamaicans get, you know, when you come from a black country, your parents don't need a visa to come here.
Starting point is 00:46:44 When you come in from a black country, you have to't need a visa to come here. When you come in from a black country, you have to prove that you're going to take your ass the hell back. They have to know that you're going to go back. So how they know that, if you're married, your wife got to be there, you got to have kids, you have to show you have money in that bank.
Starting point is 00:46:58 You have a reason to go back. When you can't prove all of those, you get denied. So it took me 15 years to go back because, of course, I had to start from nothing. I had no money. I had, you know, once I was able
Starting point is 00:47:09 to make some money, I said, let me go and see my people. Right. So I went back and then... That had to be a big change. 15 years,
Starting point is 00:47:17 people change. There's a lot of change in 15 days. There's a lot of change in 15 years. At that moment, where I went to in my, you to in my little town
Starting point is 00:47:26 or closest town. It's not quite the village. Right. It's close. It looks villagey enough. And I remember being at this place as a little kid.
Starting point is 00:47:36 You know, when I was like three years old. I remember being there. I remember three years old. And when I went back, I actually went back at eight years old again. But when I went back
Starting point is 00:47:44 25, 15 years later, it looked the same to me. You know, then I'm going to the marketplace to buy stuff. And I'm like, I see kids in a marketplace doing school hours. So I'm like, I'm like, why are these kids not in school? Right. Then I found out that the government schools fills up. Right. They can't afford to go to school.
Starting point is 00:48:04 So they're just out here helping their mothers sell fruit or whatever they're doing. So I'm like, okay. So I went to the nearest school, the local school. At that time, this is the year 2001. I just did the movie Next Friday. Right. So I went to the local school. I'm like, you know, what it costs to go to school?
Starting point is 00:48:22 And I found out it was, at that time, it was like $80 a year for a kid to go to school. I'm like, we spent that what it cost to go to school? And I found out it was, at that time, it was like $80 a year for a kid to go to school. I'm like, we spent that shit at the bar. Right. You know, so I remember going back and like grabbing like four kids, talking to their parents, I'm like, you know, let me pay for their school for the next whatever amount,
Starting point is 00:48:37 it wasn't much, $2,500, whatever it was cost me. And I paid for them to go to school, and I'm like, then I started thinking about, I need to do something about this. You know, I can't go pay for every them to go to school and I'm like then I then I started thinking about I need to do something about this you know I can't go pay for every kid who go to school maybe one day I would build my own school and when I got to the point where I was able to do it which is now decided to make it happen you you're the 13th child no my mother but my mom have eight kids and I'm number five. What the hell? Hold on, it says you have 13. What the hell, woohoo!
Starting point is 00:49:09 Are you sure? 13? I came to America at 13 years old. Maybe that's what that is. Nah, my mother had three children. Are you the youngest of eight? I'm the youngest son. Son.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I'm the youngest son of. Older, the oldest is a boy. The oldest is a boy, he's not been to America. He's, been to America. Frank has a kid every week. In fact, his wife is probably pregnant right now. He's the brokest fatherful man on earth. This guy, every time I go visit,
Starting point is 00:49:37 Mike, I have a new son. I'm like, nigga, you ain't got no job. Does he ever say, Mike, I got a new job? Never, never a new job. Mike, look at your nephew. He just wants some money. But yeah, I'm the youngest son of eight. I have two younger sisters.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Annie. Annie, who's Eli's mom, and then Dorcas. How many of your brothers and sisters are in America? Let me see. The other one I was here moved back. The only other one, two are here. One goes back and forth. You know, he's always this, every family has one slow guy. Right. You know, David's a slow one. You know, he goes back and forth. He always act like he's
Starting point is 00:50:16 doing something. He run a mission or he's doing things. I'm like, David, whatever. But yeah, two of my other brothers are here. Just, you know but yet but two mother brothers are here just you know and they all the crazy mother they all live in homes that I've given them every one of my brothers lived in home that I've given them back in Ghana really really good really really like my David lived in my first home. Right. Joseph, who moved back, he lived in my other home. Gabriel lived in my home that I, he lived there for four years. I said, and I gave him four years. You know, he was going through some.
Starting point is 00:50:55 To get situated. To get situated. He was going through some stuff. I said, he said, you know, I'm struggling. I said, okay, no problem. You know, I'm going to be spending time in Cali. Stay in his house. You know, five bedroom house. With your problem. You know, I'm going to be spending time in Cali, stay in this house, you know, five-bedroom house with your family, you know, and three years into it,
Starting point is 00:51:11 I was like, you know, your wife working, you working, you live for free for three years. I'm going to give you one more year. You know, you have to, I'm going to leave my house back. Right. And he, you know, he eventually left after the, when the time was up, he's mad at me because, you know, more free living. But you's mad at me because he's no more free living.
Starting point is 00:51:26 But you gave him four years? Gave him four years and bought an SUV for him to do Uber. Like, I bought him a Suburban. Right. Cash money. I was like, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:35 get your family back together. He eventually traded in for another car. But you know what it is? It's like, I've done my good. That's why I'm blessed. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:51:43 I've done everything I could do, what God touched me to do, you know? Man, I'll be watching you on IG, man, and that's stuff you be eating, bro, the chicken feet. I mean, I've eaten chicken feet growing up, but I, you know, I kind of lost my taste for them,
Starting point is 00:51:56 you know, once I started getting... Where you at, chicken? You from the South Side? I'm from the South Side. Yeah, I rule South Georgia. Is it still slaves here, or they all free? They free.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Is it on the map? Because I think I saw, I all free? They free. Is it on the map? Because I think I saw I went there one time and I look on the map and it's like it's not here no more. The town is still there. I love chicken feet.
Starting point is 00:52:15 I like fish eyes. Why? Come on, bro. I can't eat the fish with the head on. Cut the head off. Fish brains, too. Cut the head off.
Starting point is 00:52:23 No, no. That's the best part of the fish is the eye. No it ain't. Oh man, come on, Mike. All eyes on me, man. Eye for an eye. Is that the only time that you get to eat like that is when you go back home? I eat fish eyes in America.
Starting point is 00:52:39 But when I go home, man, I can't wait to go home. I'm on tour. This tour is over Labor Day, Memorial Day weekend. I'm going home for like three weeks. I'm going to eat my African food every day, bang my African side chicks. You ain't got no African side chicks. I got African side chicks. Follow.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Ain't nobody going to be waiting for you to come back once a year, twice a year. They don't wait like that. They wait. No, they're not. No, they're not. They waiting for the Mutombo. No, they ain't no Mutombo. Not in the house of Mutombo. They ain't no Mutom not. They waiting for the Mutombo. No they ain't no Mutombo. They ain't the House of Mutombo.
Starting point is 00:53:06 They ain't no Mutombo. They waiting for the Mutombo. They waiting for their hysterectomy and their blood infections on it's way. Man, man, you out your mind. Slim as you can. So, in Ghana, what's a typical Ghana dish? Fufu, the thing with-
Starting point is 00:53:21 Yeah, what actually is fufu? Well, fufu doesn't really have a taste. Okay. Fufu is like doughy. You know, there's different ways of making it. That's the one you tell me to eat with your hand? Yeah, fufu, the thing with fufu is not about fufu. It's about this different soup you make to go with it.
Starting point is 00:53:36 Okay. My favorite soup is peanut butter soup. What kind? Peanut butter. Peanut butter? When they cook peanut butter soup, you won't even know it's peanut butter soup. Yeah, peanut butter soup,
Starting point is 00:53:46 you have like light soup, which is like a pepper soup with tomatoes paste. And then you have like palm nut soup, okra soup. There's so many different soups you make with it. What are the meat? Different meat. Goat, add some cow, chicken, some fish.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Okay. You know, so the taste is not in the fufu itself. The taste is more in a different soup you're eating. Right. Yeah, see I'm more of a meat. I don't really care for the soups. I wanna get filled up on meat. You a meat guy?
Starting point is 00:54:13 Yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. So yeah, you could, you have a good, have you been to Africa? I have not. No country at all? No. I think that's my-
Starting point is 00:54:20 How you look like us, but never been there? Actually- You would fit right in, man. I know, hey, I trace my ancestry. I'm 90% Nigerian. Yeah, I can tell. Nigerians are like, you know, the real big. Yeah, you definitely.
Starting point is 00:54:33 90%. 90%. More like 99. You know, you just came from Nigeria. I won't go. Let me ask you a question. What, is there a city in America that you've been to, like, okay, this kind of reminds me,
Starting point is 00:54:47 I mean, because I know early on that, yeah, you do big venues now, but I know there were times when you were growing up, the venues weren't always like they are now. Like in the city where you're from. Yeah. So what, is there any city that what? Reminds you of where you're from?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Mississippi, I'm just kidding, man, nah. No, no, no, Ghana is very beautiful. In fact, Africa has really developed, Ghana especially. It's a great place to vacation. It's one of the most peaceful country in Africa. Never been a civil war. Ghanaians are very peaceful people. Food is great, Nightlife is good.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I mean, I look at Ghana as like the Dubai of Africa. You know, people go to- So what is Joburg? I thought Joburg. I thought South Africa. Eh, that's white Africa. No disrespect to South Africans,
Starting point is 00:55:36 please. I want to come there and do a show, but- That's where I'm going. I'm going- Maybe I'll go to West Africa. No, no, no. Okay, this is where I want to go.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I want to go to- Obviously, I got to go. I want to go to Robbins Island. I want to go to Kenya. No, no, no. I'm OK. This is where I want to go. I want to go to, I want to, obviously, I got to go. I want to go to Robbins Island. I want to go to Kenya. OK, Kenya is good. Kenya. I've never been to Kenya. That's east. I've been to Ethiopia.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Yeah. That was nice. I know I want to do Kenya. I want to do Tanzania. Yeah. You know, I want to do safari. So I think I'm lining it up for my 55th birthday. So yeah, you got to make it to Ghana or Nigeria.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Bro, I ain't got bread like that. I can't be staying over there. You ain't got to be staying for a month. You ain't got to stay for a month. Just go spend four or five days in every city, every country. Go to Lagos. Did I just tell you I ain't got no bread like that? Seriously, man?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yes. What you do with all your NFL money, dog? You smoke a rat? You smoke your money? You got a gambling problem? I got a kid like you do. I got to take care of the family. I got a kid, got a daughter in med school.
Starting point is 00:56:34 So she wasn't smart enough to get a free scholarship. What happened, man? She got, no, she didn't get no scholarship. Yeah, me. I have a scholarship. You have a scholarship? Yeah. That's messed up, man. So let me ask you a a scholarship. You have a scholarship? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:45 That's messed up, man. So, let me ask you a question. What was your perception of America before you got to America? Oh, man, I thought y'all wash your hands with soda and wipe your ass with money. I came here, that's some bullshit. Man, we work just to pay bills. Yeah. That's what most American families do.
Starting point is 00:57:04 My goodness. I'm like, my family back home thinking, you know, we here turning up. Man, I mean, it's different now. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:11 You know, but like when we, my mother worked at McDonald's. Right. We came in, we ate all the leftover food she brought over. But that was good.
Starting point is 00:57:20 I guess you don't like McDonald's. I guess you don't like McDonald's. After 36 days in a row, I don't want to see another burger in my life, okay? I hate Big Mac 36 days in a row.
Starting point is 00:57:31 The transition. Africa, you're like, okay, got this culture. It's totally different. It's not like you moved from one African country to another one. You moved to a whole different country, a whole different way of life, a whole different way of thinking.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I landed in New Jersey, I landed in New York, the plane landed in JFK, and then I remember I was going to Newark. My mother is an evangelist, so she traveled the world preaching the gospel. That's how she met friends in America. And that's how I was able to get. What happened to you?
Starting point is 00:57:59 Man, you know what happened to preacher kids, man. Yeah, they're the worst! Preacher kids are the devil! But that's how we ended up here. what happened to preacher kids? Yeah, they're the worst. Preacher kids are the devil. But, that's how we ended up here. You know, the gospel brought us here and comedy's gonna get us out.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But, I landed early April. It was by 30 degrees. Yes. I went from heat to like a refrigerator, a freezer. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:58:24 what is this? I hit, my first week in America, I was ready to go back home. Does it get cold in Africa? How cold does it get? No. No, like spring is 90 degrees. Winter is 85. Summertime is hell.
Starting point is 00:58:39 No, we don't. We have rainy season, at least in West Africa. Right. South Africa, you know, it might snow. It might get cold. But where I'm from, it's like rainy and dry season. Either it's going to be rainy or it's going to be dry. So when it rains, you know, the temperature might go down to 83. That's our winter.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Explain, when did you want to get into fashion? When did you want to do clothes? Say, you know what? I'm going to be Michael Blackson. This is who I am. It started from when I came to America. So when I came here, mind you, I left Africa. Oh, so like coming to America.
Starting point is 00:59:17 You was Eddie Bird, you was Zimunda. No, it's not Zimunda. Eddie came rich. I came, I was a homeless African, OK? Eddie came here with money and coming to America. Right. All right, so with me, when I was a homeless African, okay? And he came here with money and coming to America. Right. Alright, so with me, when I was a kid in Africa, all I remember is girls like guys with new clothes.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Right. Whenever you got brand new clothes, that's how you get the girls. Right. You know, and I remember, we didn't care about brands. Things have changed now. Right. Back then, we didn't care about brands. We didn't care about Versace and Gucci and Nike and Puma, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:48 As long as it was brand new, girls were like, oh my God, he has new clothes. And next thing you know, you got a girlfriend because you got a new outfit at 13 years old. I came to America, I thought it was the same thing. So mind you, my mother worked at McDonald's. She made $50 a week. And I remember her taking me school shopping before school. My mother bought me some sneakers in Pathmark. Pathmark is a grocery store. She bought chicken and bought sneakers. I was wearing chicken flavored sneakers. My first pair of sneakers was called In Action.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Right. But I didn't care. I didn't know. Right. All I cared was brand new. Brand new. It had never been worn. Right. She went to McCory's. Remember McCory's?
Starting point is 01:00:30 Yeah. It's like a Woolworth, whatever. Bought me, she was in the church, so she bought me some dress pants and church shirt. But it was brand new. Right. So I remember I got dressed. All you cared about it was brand new. Brand new.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Here I am. I went home. Got my new clothes. My first day of school, you cared about was brand new. Brand new. Here I am. I went home. Got my new clothes. My first day of school I'm about to shit on all these haters. Brand new inactions. My church pants
Starting point is 01:00:53 and my church shirt. Yeah. Brand new. I even left a tag on it so they know it's new. The tag says 699. I went to school and the kids started laughing. I'm like, what are you laughing at?
Starting point is 01:01:08 They said, what the hell you got on? I said, what you mean what I have on? This is brand new. It's never been worn. Man, they lit my ass up. I was roasted for two years. We couldn't afford Nike. They wanted $30 for them things.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Right. We couldn't afford Nike. They wanted $30 for them things. Right. You know, and two years later, I was able to get a job as a kid selling candies door-to-door. I remember this one guy used to like, I don't know how I got hooked up with it. Maybe somebody from school, whatever. Right. And they said, this guy take us to like rich neighborhoods, rich white neighborhoods,
Starting point is 01:01:42 and we go lie to them pretty much. Right. us to rich neighborhoods, rich white neighborhoods, and we go lie to them pretty much. We sell a box of candy that's costing maybe 50 cents a box. We'll go knock on these rich people's door, hey, I'm Michael Blackson from the Mount Calvary Youth Court. He had to start a... Mount Calvary might sound like a church, but this guy was Muslim. He was a Muslim man taking us to it. And we sang church. Make a long story short, we sold these candies for $3.50 in a box
Starting point is 01:02:10 and we made 75 cents out of every box that we sold. Right. So I started making my $75 a week and I saved my money. I had to give
Starting point is 01:02:18 half to my mother. That's one thing we did in Africa. As kids... Oh yeah, you gotta help pay bills. You can't just... You give half the money to your mom.
Starting point is 01:02:25 So I gave half to my mom, saved the other half. And I remember I went and got my first pair of Wrangler jeans. Ooh, Wrangler. Not Levi's, not Calvin Klein. You had the Wranglers. So now I went to, was it 10th grade in Beringer High in Newark, New Jersey. I remember going to school in 10th grade.
Starting point is 01:02:45 I'm on my first, I had Reebok. I'm on my first pair of Reebok. And then I had my Wrangler jeans, Lee jeans. Lee jeans and some La Tigra shirt. All of a sudden now, people want to, I have friends now. Nobody's roasting me anymore. So I said to myself, man, whenever I make money,
Starting point is 01:03:02 I'm going to be the baddest draftee in the world. I'm going to be dressed to the nines. So when the kids that were roasting you, did you know you always wanted to be a comedian? Did you know you were always funny? Never. I had no idea this would come, fell on my lap. I remember coming to, we was about to move to Philly.
Starting point is 01:03:25 I remember my sister came first. The reason why I came a week later, because while I was in Jersey, I was a small kid. In fact, one time I remember being, I remember my last year in, I went to a junior high. So the junior high was like
Starting point is 01:03:41 seventh, eighth, and ninth grade. So I graduated in ninth grade. I remember the ninth grade, first semester, I remember getting A's and B's. And I remember one time getting on a bus and this school bully found out everybody had good grades. This guy sucker punched the hell out of me because I had good grades. I'll never forget that. Okay. You know, and then, what the hell does that mean? You still got a concussion? No, I didn't get a con Okay. You know, and then, what the hell does that mean? You still got a concussion?
Starting point is 01:04:06 No, I didn't get that. Oh, but. I hope he would've smacked me at night because he would've seen nothing. He would've probably shadow boxed. It was broad daylight, right? So I've been bullied my whole life. But so, I didn't, so the reason why,
Starting point is 01:04:21 I had good grades, that's why I came to good grades. And during that summer, I was in a pre-college program. Right. So it was all the smart kids went to like, it was like NJIT. All the different colleges had smart kids for the summer. Right. And we were all invited to be an extra in the movie Lean on Me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:38 Lean on Me, Morgan Freeman. Dr. Clark. Mr. Clark. Free Mr. Clark. That's my line. Free Mr. Clark. No, no, no, no. Ha, ha, ha. Clark. Free Mr. Clark, that's my line. Free Mr. Clark. No, no, no, no. Ha, ha, ha, that's my line.
Starting point is 01:04:49 I pay $75 a day, I'm rich. And then, so I had to wait a week because I was doing that movie. And so, I remember coming to Philly and I remember when the movie came out, you know I was an extra, people would like recognize, like, was you moving in on me? I'm like, yeah, yes.
Starting point is 01:05:06 You know, so it gave me that first stardom thing. That thing of being a, you know, but I still wasn't thinking about comedy. Comedy. That's when the TV came in, like, man, eyeballs, people see, they recognize, okay. And I remember my, so my last year, I think the comedy started coming out
Starting point is 01:05:23 my last year of 11th grade when I was about To go to 12th grade. So now you've got to go from a junior to a senior Yeah, I'm gonna make a name for yourself when you're a senior you want everybody to know you so I'm on the 11th grade the last Year we had like a talent show right and I remember the funniest guy in the school didn't end up being a comedian So we did this thing called our senior Horsham, right? So he was a senior and I played a guest. I played Nelson Mandela. And I remember being a guest, and I started talking, like,
Starting point is 01:05:51 trying to talk like Nelson. That's when the comics kind of started a little bit. And then, mind you, I was working at my job in Philly. I worked at Domino's Pizza from, like, age 15. Started off answering the phones, learned how to deliver pizzas on a bike. I eventually ended up being a manager. I didn't leave there until I was like 22 years old
Starting point is 01:06:09 when I got fired. Right. You got fired? How'd you get fired? I'll get to that. Okay. So I'm been working at Domino's and I was, at this point, I was like 21,
Starting point is 01:06:21 I was a manager. I was hiring and firing. I remember I hired this guy, and he took the job as a part-time job to make tips. A lot of people do the job for tips every night. They make 30, 40, 50 bucks a night. And this guy was an acting teacher at the Philadelphia Community College.
Starting point is 01:06:36 And then he hung around me all the time. He's like, Mike, you're funny, man. You should go to open mic. I'm like, what is that? He said, that's where you start off. He said, I help you get your first five minutes together. So he helped me. He said, that's where you start off. He said, I'll help you get your first five minutes together. So he helped me. He said, tell me about yourself.
Starting point is 01:06:48 And then we put our first five minutes together, and I started going to open mic. And this was like summer of 93, 94. And it started from there? Started from there. How did you get fired from Domino's? Well, at that point, I was taking comedy more seriously than my job. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:09 You know, I was a manager. I remember going to New York to do this thing called the Uptown Comedy Club. Yep. It was on TV, on UPN. I did an appearance on it. And my assistant manager didn't show up to work. So the store didn't open. And that happened to be the same day the general managers decided to show up. A lot of these fast food franchise, the big bosses just shows up anytime they want. Just to catch you off
Starting point is 01:07:37 guard. And they happened to show up this day that nobody's store is not open. Nobody's there. And then it wasn's there and then it was a it wasn't a corporation it was a franchise so they could make their own decisions they fired me because I wasn't there
Starting point is 01:07:50 to run the store and because my assistant didn't show up it was my responsibility so I lost my job and had to start from I mean I was doing really good
Starting point is 01:07:59 at that point I was making about $20,000 a year that's good money in 1994 right you know so I had to start all over my car got repossessed I'm making about 20,000 a year. That's good money in 1994. Right. You know, so I had to start all over.
Starting point is 01:08:07 My car got repossessed. I had to move back home with my mother. I had to start all the way from the bottom up. And you know, and start all over. How did the bullying, how did that impact you? Because you say you were smart because you got good grades, he sucker punched you. Did it make you go into a shit like,
Starting point is 01:08:29 I don't want anyone to know. Let me just tell jokes, keep people laughing. Oh no, that was way before I mean comedy. That was, well, I mean, it just made me, that was my first bullying experience in America. I'm like, damn, these people are so mean. Somebody just came and sucker punched me for no reason.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Right. That's all of that. I felt that when Chris Rock got smacked. All that, it's just a bad feeling. I hate bullies. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:52 I hate anybody that bully anybody. That's my, ugh. You know what I'm saying? So, the reason why I mentioned that whole thing
Starting point is 01:09:00 was because I was trying to get to how I end up in a movie leaning on me. Right. Because I was a smart kid. Right. And I remember that happening to me because I was trying to get to how I end up in the movie, Lean On Me. Because I was a smart kid. And I remember that happening to me because I was smart. When you first started, you wore the Shiki you use
Starting point is 01:09:11 on stage barefooted. Yes. Why? I think with anything you do, any job, it take about three years to know exactly where you want to go. If you in the NFL, three years into the NFL, you should be good. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:27 You should know exactly what type of player you are. You're not going to the first year or second year. It's something about three years. Right. So it was three years into my comedy. Prior to me going barefoot with Adashiki, I dressed regular, you know, and I talked regular because I didn't use a lot of energy. When I go on stage now, I use a lot of energy.
Starting point is 01:09:48 For some reason, when I use energy, my accent just comes out. It just tells me that I'm not, you know, but I was more calm. You know, my jokes was real different when I started. My jokes were like, I was real skinny. I was like half this size. I'll go on stage and be like safe. How you living? What you mean?
Starting point is 01:10:04 You only weigh 100 pounds right now, so you 50 pounds? I was 58. Don't take away my 8 pounds, motherfucker. But I remember I'll go on stage, I was so skinny, I'll go on stage and be like, slim fast really works. And I was like, when I first came to America, all my friends
Starting point is 01:10:20 tried to make me feel at home, so they didn't feed me for a month. It was like real calm jokes, right? And I would just, so I remember three years into comedy, I was on stage, some hood place in Philly, called Morgan's, in like Germantown part of Philadelphia. And I'm on stage and I made fun of like a family member, like my uncle or something, and I talked with the accent,
Starting point is 01:10:44 I brought my uncle accent out. Right. And everything I said in that accent was extra funny. Right. Everything I said in it. And I'm like, damn, they laugh at everything in the accent. Why did I just talk like that? Right.
Starting point is 01:10:57 So I'm like, well, if I'm going to talk like this, I got to put this clothes on. Right. I don't need no shoes. I'm going to take my shoes off. I'm going to be the village. And then my career went up. But then maybe 2013 is kind of like when I killed it. So I wore this. I did the dashiki from like, we're talking about like 2000, 1999.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Right. 99 to like 2010ish. You know, then when social media came out, I made a name for myself and then I started to be more vulgar. I went from like that clean comic to like what's really in me. Right. You know, and when I started doing that, I didn't feel right cussing in my African garb.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Right. It was too royal. It was too respectful. Right. You know, I'm going to take this off and I'm going to be myself. Right. And that's why I'm like this now. T.I.
Starting point is 01:11:55 Big time entertainer. King of the trap. We know what he is on that side of the entertainment. Recently, he decided to go embark upon your side of the entertainment. Recently, he decided to go embark upon your side of the entertainment. Got booed. I don't
Starting point is 01:12:10 know if T.I. had ever been booed before. When you had the success that he's had, he probably didn't get booed. What advice... I think I saw you... I did IG Live when right after this happened, we went on live and talked about it. What advice would you give him?
Starting point is 01:12:27 Because me, I'm the type of guy, if I ain't good at something, I ain't going to be able to do it. I can't do it. Well, no, with comedy, the greatest have been booed. You ain't make it, so you've been booed.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Everybody has been booed. But here's the thing. You hadn't made it in something else and been successful at that. Most comedians ain't been successful at something else. Yeah, it's easy to get booed when you've never had the level of success
Starting point is 01:12:48 that he's enjoyed. Yeah, but he's going to a whole different type of gig, you know, in the wrong city. Booing in the comedy club sounds the same as booing on the football field. Boo, you suck! Yeah, it sounds the same. Well, New York is a rough place.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yeah. You know, and the thing about it is he needed that to realize that, you know, this is not a joke. Now you're doing it. Yeah. You know, so he learned from it and honestly, since then, he's been, you know, he got better.
Starting point is 01:13:20 You know, but he he's been so successful in what he does. Right. You know, so he's very cocky about it. Right. And I see that because... And most comedians don't wait this late to get started, though. No, no, they don't. But even if they do, you go through a process.
Starting point is 01:13:38 But it's different now. Nowadays, you could just start doing skits. Let's go to the new comics now. You start doing skits, and next thing you know, you end up being a comedian. Right. People that are successful in that, like DC Young Fly. Right. He was a guy that just started off roasting people, and now he's a hell of a comedian.
Starting point is 01:13:54 Right. Yeah. You know, proud of him, loved his kid. And I remember when he started, seven years ago. You know, he was on there making fun of everybody, and then me and him roasted each other. And like now, he's on tour with me. He's on the tour. And he's helping sell the tickets. He's probably one of the biggest influencers on the tour because he has 11 million followers. T.I., he's a superstar. So he's going to get the respect. he's going to get the respect. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:27 You know, he's going to get the respect as a star. You know, but he can't take advantage of it. You got to still understand he's trying to do comedy here. Right. You know, my biggest advice to him was like, you know, start off hosting a show. When you're a host, there's no pressure. Right. You know, you go up there, crack a couple of jokes, bring on the next comedian.
Starting point is 01:14:41 Right. But, you know, he just so, he just so, he's ready to headline. Right. And so he has to learn. He has to learn the hard way. And I think that booing humbled him. Yes. And brought him to reality.
Starting point is 01:14:58 And he had to go back to the drawing board. And the following day, he was in Atlanta performing. And he did well. What do you like most about touring? I mean, I guess making money. It's a job now. Right. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy it.
Starting point is 01:15:17 I 100% enjoy telling jokes and making people laugh. I mean, and I've been doing this 27 years. I performed last night in Long Beach and like, you know, it's just a great feeling, getting on stage and making people laugh. You know, I feel like a doctor. I'm a therapist. You know, you're feeling bad,
Starting point is 01:15:35 you come out to a comedy club, you have a seat and what makes you feel better? Make you forget about your problems. Till you get home, then you're on your own, mother sucker. What's your worst purchase? You seem like a guy, you're on your own, motherfucker. What's your worst purchase? You seem like a guy, you're extravagant, you like to dress up, you like nice things. I see you, you be suited and booty,
Starting point is 01:15:51 you talk about your eyes. What's the worst purchase Michael Blackson ever made? Damn. And the thing about it, I'm not the... I'm trying to think, you know, what's the worst purchase in my life? God. I'm trying to think if I bought something that depreciated.
Starting point is 01:16:14 I can't... I can't think of... I mean, it's got to be something expensive, right? Yeah. You know, I can't even say my car. And I know I spent a lot of money for my car. Better at least it.
Starting point is 01:16:36 No, I'm African. Okay. They lease things too? Here's the thing, okay? We live in Hollywood. We live in Hollywood. We live in whatever. And now I understand why these guys fake it till they make it. Because, you know, a lot of these guys come out, they go rent a Rolls Royce and get an Airbnb for a house,
Starting point is 01:17:00 take a picture and act like they own it and then do all of that because we're in an era where nobody respect you or care about you if you don't have anything. So a lot of time we do things for a reason. People only respect you by what they think you're worth. If I'm coming to a meeting trying to get some money, if I drive up there with a Rolls Royce, whatever this guy was planning on paying me,
Starting point is 01:17:28 it just went up $20,000. You know what? By looking at his car, she's not going to take this offer. I got to pay him this. If I decide, invite you to my penthouse, if you're trying to pay me $10,000, now you're like, I got to pay this guy 20.
Starting point is 01:17:44 And we do everything for, everything's an image. People respect you by what they see. Nobody care about Brooke, man, you ain't got nothing. Nobody wanna be around you. It's a shame, but that's the world we live in. So I don't regret any materialistic thing that I've done. Right, because everything was done for a reason. Everything was done for a reason.
Starting point is 01:18:04 I mean, at the end of the day, you know, my kids are ready for college. They'll be able to go to college. I don't need anything. Whatever I want, I can get it. You know, I'm giving back at the same time. You know, so there is not been any bad purchase. You know, I came close to one time, but I didn't go through with it. For some reason, I've been pretty good with, you know, dealing with money to one time but I didn't go through with it. For some reason,
Starting point is 01:18:25 I've been pretty good with, you know, dealing with money. Right. And don't get it wrong, I never went to college. It's just that, just from being a kid
Starting point is 01:18:32 and penny pinching everything and giving mother half the money, just know how to save money because that's what we did as kids. You don't, in America, you guys,
Starting point is 01:18:41 you can just have a million dollars in the bank but you'll go and get you a $5 million house. Like, what you doing that for? Right. You know, where I'm from, you want something, you save the money for it, and you get it. I'm going to get you out of here on this one.
Starting point is 01:18:55 Give me your Mount Rushmore comedian. You know, at one point I had, you know, to me, Eddie Murphy was top. God. Till today, you can watch Raw and watch Delirious, still relevant. Yes. And that thing is 35, 40 years old. Yes.
Starting point is 01:19:16 I got to put Eddie at one. And I know Richard Pryor, you know, a lot of people feel like it's Richard Pryor, but I came to America during the Eddie Murphy era. So when I got here, I think Richard was pretty much, he was more just doing movies at the time. So I had to go back to study him. Sunset. Level sunset.
Starting point is 01:19:40 So I got to put, and then I heard about some other personal things that he did that kind of like, threw me off a little bit. Right. But I'm not gonna judge him for what he had in his past. But I gotta put Eddie first, I gotta put Richard Pryor number two. Then I have to go with current. You know, um, I've watched specials in the past 20 years,
Starting point is 01:20:05 and for me, Chris Rock, every time he put out a special, it was special. Yeah. Because Chris Rock took his time. Chris Rock put out a special almost every five to eight years. Right. You know, because I think a special has to be special.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Right. You have to put time and effort into it, and every special that Chris Rock did was special to me. Okay. You know, so I would put Chris Rock at three. Um... You know, I gotta... Then I gotta go with Dave.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Well, you got a hell of a list. you got a hell of a list. You got a hell of a list. The thing with Dave, you know, Dave started off comedy. He was a prodigy. Dave was doing comedy for about 15 years and Blackboard didn't know Dave. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:55 You know, cause he was more on a mainstream. Yes. It was mainstream comic. Yeah, the first time I heard of Dave Chappelle, He was on Dave Chappelle, No, uh-uh. He was in The Clumps. Another Professor, when he was Reggie.
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yes. And then he was in Blue Street with Martin. Yes. When he started doing black stuff. Yes. But he was doing comedy 10 years before that? I didn't know. I know that. I knew I was a comic, but y'all didn't know. No. So, you know, because Dave was able to, like, you know, start off as mainstream and was able to capture every audience. Yes.
Starting point is 01:21:33 And now he's the top dog. Yes. You know, so I put him there as, what were you at, four? Four. That's it. That's all you get. Is it top four or top five? No, no. My Rushmore has four faces on it. It's only got four faces? That's it. at, four? Four. That's it? That's all you get? Is it top four or top five? No, no.
Starting point is 01:21:46 My Rushmore has four faces on it. Is that all you have, four faces? That's it. Okay, that's it. That's top four. Because I was going to be fifth. Who? Michael Blackson.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Here's a man that come from a whole different continent and made a name for himself in comedy. The first man from the whole continent of Africa to be known in America as a comedian. The first. So the whole continent of Africa to be known in America as a comedian.
Starting point is 01:22:07 The first. So I have to give myself credit for that. And I did it. I ain't gonna give you no credit, though. You gotta give me credit, man. Nope.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Not gonna be able to do that. I wish I could, though. I hate it. I thank you for coming by, but I'm not gonna be able to give you credit for coming to Africa. You look Nigerian, too.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Hey, why you hating on my people? You know, we had this beef on Jalaf rice. You know anything about Jalaf rice? Mm-mm. Well, Jalaf rice is kind of like African version of fried rice. Okay. It's made totally differently.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Right. Ghana and Nigeria has me beefing on who has the best Jalaf. Yeah. You know, and so it's been a big fight. We had a soccer match to see who was going to the World Cup. Ghana beat Nigeria. You know, and so it's been a big fight. Even we just had a soccer match to see who was going to the World Cup. Ghana beat Nigeria. Did they? Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:50 So Nigeria's eliminated. Y'all cheated. Y'all cheated. Your people, 90 percent, all their muscles, you guys are all overgrown. Nigerians are just overgrown. You know, Ghanaians are like, you know, they're shorter, faster when it comes to soccer. Right. Nigerians, you know, they're shorter, faster when it comes to soccer. Right. You guys, Nigerians, you can't have football and soccer.
Starting point is 01:23:10 You guys, like 5% of NFL players are Nigerians. Yeah. You know, but yeah, so it's a big jollof beef that has caused this whole beef, you know. But at the end of the day, you know, neither one of them have the best jollof, unfortunately. You know who has the best jollof? Who? Senegal. That's where I originated from. I know my Guineans will be very mad at me.
Starting point is 01:23:25 I'm sorry. Please let me back in the country when I come. But I had Senegal jollof about a month ago at this jollof contest where I was allowed to taste Ghana jollof, Nigeria jollof, Senegal jollof. Right. And I felt so embarrassed that Senegal tasted so much. But it originated in, I found out it was originated in synagogue. Do you, when you, when you deal for places, do you try to find a local African spot to eat at? Everywhere I go.
Starting point is 01:23:55 I found a place in L.A. But then also, I mean, I cook. I've been cooking, you know, I was raised in Liberia. In my African life, most of my time was in Liberia. Liberia is a place where men learn how to cook at a young age. So I could still cook my African stew. I even know where the local African grocery store is to go and grab my stuff and cook.
Starting point is 01:24:14 So I could cook. And when I'm lazy, I'll go to the African restaurants in the area. I don't know who you're cooking. Don't be a hater, man. You want some fish eyes? No, I do not want no fish eyes. I do not. I'm sorry. How about cow's eyes? No, I do not want no fish eyes. I do not. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:24:25 How about cow's tongue? I have had cow tongue. You ate cow tongue, but you got a problem with fish eyes. Yeah. I've eaten mountain oysters. I've eaten turkey oysters. I've eaten a lot of things. Possum, raccoon, turtle.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I have a turtle. Have you ate a rabbit? Yes. Squirrel. You ate a Bugs Bunny. You ate one too. I did. Exactly. Yes. Squirrel. He ate a Bugs Bunny. You ate one too? I did. Exactly, yes.
Starting point is 01:24:49 I ate a rabbit. You know, I grew up in the rural south. I mean, it was like a bush mouse, a bush rat. No. I've had a bush rat. Well, whatever you call it. You had possum. I'm sure I've had possum.
Starting point is 01:25:01 Yeah. No, see? I've ate all kinds of things, man. Yeah, but I try to graduate. Like, Vienna sausages, I like. When I make some money, I ain't gonna eat that.
Starting point is 01:25:10 Sardines, all that stuff, I ain't need none of them. What? Mm-mm. I'm good. Because you got money, you're gonna... Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:15 That was the whole purpose. That's what drove me because I didn't want to eat that every day. Now that I got money, I could afford more fish eyes. No, I don't want no more fish eyes. I don't want no more fish eyes, fish heads.
Starting point is 01:25:23 I don't want none of that. Fish brains are the best. No. Filet, chicken, turkey, some sea bass. I'm good. Lamb chops, I'm good. Sea bass is good. Just get it with the head still attached.
Starting point is 01:25:33 No, I don't want the head on the fish. I don't even want the head on the fish. The fish needs to come head removed. Are you scared to look at the fish face? No. First of all, I don't want none of the filets anyway. I ain't picking on nothing because I don't want no bones. No.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I do not. It's going to come in a nice fillet. So you never ate like any head of any animal? No, no, no, no, no. I mean, it's not really head. You ate like a goat head. Like the whole head. A hog head.
Starting point is 01:25:56 You saw his face? Yeah. I ain't eat the eyes, though. You ate the ears. No, I can't. I only eat fish eyes. I don't eat. You eat pig ears, though, right?
Starting point is 01:26:04 You know what? My lady cooked it the other day. Pig ears? Yeah. Yeah, pig ear sandwich, but... Sandwich? Yeah. With mustard. But that weed from the game? I'm from rural South Georgia, man. Bro, I... Y'all free over there. Everybody's free.
Starting point is 01:26:20 Yeah, we free. We been free. Because I know I went close. I was like, listen, all of you just follow me, man. Let's get out of here. You went to Atlanta. You didn't go anywhere south of Atlanta. You been to Savannah? Been to Savannah. I was in Columbus, Georgia. Oh, yeah. Columbus, Georgia.
Starting point is 01:26:35 That's south. That's near Alabama. Birmingham. I saw three people that didn't know they were free. I said, follow me. You're free. You don't have to be here. I said, yeah, come on. You you were 85 South way down South. Yeah, I'm for the South and there Further than that. I'm further than that. I'm southeast. I'm near floor. I'm near the Florida line. I'm way down So you so like walk to Atlanta? Yeah, I ain't nobody walk to Atlanta
Starting point is 01:27:03 No, I did not walk to no Atlanta, no. Bro, I appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Yes, sir. Ah. God damn, I felt like I was hugging myself. God damn. I left my muscles at. Won a slice.
Starting point is 01:27:25 Got the roll of dice. That's why all my life I've been grinding all my life. All my life. I've been grinding all my life. Sacrifice. Hustle paid the price. Won a slice. Got the roll of dice.
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