Club Shay Shay - Mike Tomlin LEAVES Steelers, What would you do if you FOUND $20M?! The Rip With Ben Affleck and Matt Damon Movie Premiere | Netflix Guys Night Out with Unc, Ocho & Joe

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

Join Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson, and Joe Johnson for a special Guys Night Out livestream presented by Netflix in promotion for The Rip, featuring Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, premiering January 16, 2026. Unc & Ocho are joined by Jim Jones, Maino, Terrence J, The Kid Mero, Big Daddy Kane, and many more. Apologies for the technical difficulties early on! 0:00 - Mike Tomlin steps down as Steelers Head Coach7:18 - Charles Oakley joins the show16:43 - Jim Jones joins the show29:32 - Maino joins the show43:14 - Big Daddy Kane joins the show1:01:46 - Terrence J joins the show1:08:16 - Shuttle Ride1:16:37 - Red Carpet Arrival (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Club See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Rip. Matt Damon, Ben Affleck, the movie is set up, it's like a heist. They walk into a room and there's $20 million. Now, the question is, you walk into a room, there's $20 million in cash. They're police officers. How much do you keep? How much do you turn in? How much do you turn in?

You're supposed to turn it all in. We're going to find out what they do. That's going to be the interesting. part. So we want to, first of all, we want to thank Netflix for giving us this. So thank you. I could not have done this without you. The big news of the day, Mike Tomlin after 19 years, steps down for the Pittsburgh Steelers. And because he stepped down, that means if he signs with another team, they're going to owe

the Pittsburgh Steelers compensation. So it probably was a mutual agreement. Look, you do your thing. We're going to do our thing. We're going to move in a different direction. But to make it look classy. we're not terminating you because that's three coaches in 50 years. Chuck Nall took it from 69 to 92.

Coach Cowan took it from what, from 92 until 2006, 2007, and then Mike Tomlin took it over from there. So they've only had three coaches in 50-plus in what since 1969. I mean, so you can't argue the success that the Steelers have had. But I think this was great for both teams because I do not believe the Pittsburgh Steelers were any closer, be it with Mike Tomlin, based on how their roster is assembled, the quarterback situation, the offense,

I don't think they were close. And having a non-losing season, that's not what you're really going for, Ocho. That's not the standard. It's never been a standing where to come to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They're a championship winning organization. If I'm not mistaken, they have what, five, six Lombardy's.

Six? No, they have six. So obviously, with the standard, being the standard, you can't be satisfied. We're just saying, okay, at least we don't have a non-lose season. above 500 this year. I told, we talked about it last night. I think they're going to allow him to walk away.

And lo and behold, today, you know, he walks away. It's shocking. I didn't think that. What did you think is, Joe? Man, I think, I think Mike Tomlin took a good, hard look at the situation. It was like, you know what? Maybe I should take some time off. But like y'all said, I think it was a mutual decision.

And I think he's going to get a coaching job somewhere because there's so many coaching vacancies in the NFL right now. And it's a lot of jobs that look, pretty good. I think he'll definitely end up coaching against someone. Me personally, I think he moves to the front of the list. I think he jumps in front of John Harbaugh. I think so. And you look, now what thought

was, you know, Harbaugh has his pick of pick. Now with Mike Tomlin on the thing, because you're talking about somebody that's been 19 years, that's been to multiple Super Bowl. Yes, he's only won one. He's won more division titles than John Harbaugh. So the Giants, that looks appealing. Atlanta,

that looks appealing. Tennessee, that looks appealing. I think Mike Tomlin is going to have this choice. Where he wants to go, where does he want to coach? Does he want to take a year off? Does he do TV? Or does he want to jump right back in it? What if it's not even NFL? What if he takes a college? What if there's some vacancies in college?

I'm not sure if he wants to have to deal with the NIL drama, but still, I think Mike Tomlin is going to be able to go anywhere where this college level, what's the NFL, but he's going to have to go to a situation that's advantageous for him. But if you don't have a quarterback, he can be right back in purgatory like you were with the damn Steelers. Right. I don't see college with my comment.

I don't either. I don't see. And first of all, there's no college vacancies open currently. That hiring cycle of me, LSU's gotten filled by land camp in Penn State's been filled. So all the coaching vacancies have been filled. But they have a lot of them in the NFL. Arizona's available. Atlanta's available.

Tennessee's available. The Giants are available. I like the Giants. Hey, now it's been reported that LaFleur and the Packers are trying to work on a long-term deal. You got one more year left and you don't want to be a late. You got one more year left, and you don't want to be a late. aimed up. You want some security. And you want the team to realize like, okay,

because a lot of time, the players will look like, man, you only got one year. We ain't listening to you. So give him some security. Let him, let the team know that he is in charge. But Mike Thomas, this shocked me. And you said it last night that you thought the Steelers would allow him to step away from it. I didn't see that coming. I did not see that. No, I didn't. I mean, honestly, the right was on the wall.

The right one was on the wall. And the fire Thomas stuff. You know, the noise, it got louder and louder, Joe. It got loud on out. Yeah. And it's becoming, you know, kind of dissatisfied with just mediocrity. Yeah. That's never been a standard for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So at some point, understanding, and the problem is, this is the problem.

When you had been Rothersberger, you should have already had someone in place. They didn't have a possession plan. They should have it in place. They didn't want to step on his toes, though. Yeah. Green Bay gave you the blueprint. Yeah. They had Brett Barb still playing at elite level.

They get Aaron Rogers. They get Aaron Rogers still playing at the elite level. to get your love. Now you got a succession plan in place, but you wait, well, I don't want to step on running. Bro, you can't worry about his feeling. Because guess what? He's happy.

Man, they ain't draft no quarterback, but look where you. Look where it left you. Right. So because, you know, Ben started to get older, you could tell Ben wasn't the same guy. So you,

in order to be a head coach, and this is, I think, one of the reason why coaches don't get close to players. Because at some point in time, you're going to have to let your best player. You're going to have to let him go. You would have to make very, very, And so that's why I'm really surprised that Mike Tomlin decided to step away.

But like you said, it was a situation where the noise is starting to get louder and louder. I mean, like really, by Mike Tomlin? Yeah. You've never heard. I don't think you heard that. I mean, like I said, I was, we didn't have 24 hours of social media like with Coach Noel or Coach Cowher. I know early on when Coach Coward didn't have, but Coach Cowell went to the Super Bowl in his third year.

Mike Tomlin won the Super Bowl in his second year. Yeah. So he's had success and went back again, I think three years later, ended up losing to the Packers. But since then, we talked about it last night, guys. Joe, Ocho and I was talking, seven straight losses in the playoffs.

Tie with Marvin Lewis for the longest in NFL history. Look, we love Marvin. He was a defense coordinator when I was in Baltimore. orchestrated a historic defense. He was your head coach. Seven straight losses in NFL history. As long as the NFL's been going on, that is a record.

That's not something you want to be a part of. That's not what you want to be a part of. But I'm like Mike Tomlin, though, for a number of reasons. First off, he was a culture changing. Yeah. You know what I mean? Absolutely. And not only that, y'all know this because y'all play the game,

but he's going to get to respect any other players, all the players on the team. So he walks in instantaneous. So wherever he goes or whatever change, he gets like unksa he probably jumped the he'll probably jump hardball to get a job but yes man they know he'll come change the culture wherever he goes so okay i'm looking forward to it but if anything shoot we got a special guest joining us for boys night out uh good friend about i've been knowing this dude man he's how old what they do baby ah took that thousand and a hundred

huh he oh wait oh oh oh oh yeah we bet that thousand on the show for real oh he got a Some of Amnesian. Yeah. You do all the matter of thousand times. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you.

We are. Thank you, Jordan. I've been knowing this dude. This dude, we used to work out together, run track together, go break bread together. So it's always good to see him. Even though every day,

once in a while, we'll take each other. Man, you in Atlanta. Y'am in Atlanta. Let's go break bread. So it's good to see you. Oh. Talking about back down.

Stepping down. Are you surprised that the Steelers and Mike Tomlin are parked ways? I'm surprised. He was there for so long. Him and Harbaugh, the two coaches, and him and team, two decades. And like you said,

you only can coach what you got. Yes. And if you ain't got it, you know, sometimes fans want you have more. And I think he got a lot out of the team he had. They were still missing some offensive pieces. You know, he tried, made the playoff. And, hey, they ran to a jugger all that.

Houston is the best defense in the league. So you got a 40-year-old quarterback. Yes. That's going to be hard to be. beating young guys. It is. But the problem and you're right, you can only coach what you have, but a part of his job is to make sure they have. Yes. He's the charge

of the roster. He chose to go, they get a 42-year-old quarterback. I don't know what you were thinking. How far a 42-year-old quarterback is going to take you, especially in the cold. Most quarterbacks, as they start to get age, and they get older, they like warm weather. They like Miami. They like Tampa. They like to be

indoors. Second of all, when he had an opportunity, I think the thing is, he allowed his relationship with Ben Rothensberger not to not allow him to draft a successor to Rothersberger. Like Green Bay did, they had a successor for Brett

Farm. They had a successor for Eric Rogers. You've got to think you've got to project. You can't like think Ben Rothensberg is going to play there for 30 years. And so I think that's what really happened because in the way the NFL is set up now, it used to be bring your run

game, bring your defense. And you could get away with a marginal quarterback. Right. In today's NFL, you've got to have a stud to play that position if you want to go far. You can make the playoffs. But if you talk about going far and winning and challenge for championships, without that piece, it's not happening. I heard you in Joe talking earlier. Trey Young got traded.

I'm surprised. But I think what happened, and Joey, we talk about this. In his absence, you saw Jalen Johnson go to another level. And you're like, hold on. This kid, Young. He's six foot nine. He can handle the ball. He can dish out of assist.

He can rebound. He can score. Trey, we love Trey. But we're talking about a guy that's six foot tall that really doesn't rebound, that doesn't play defense. Yeah, let's move in a different direction. Let's see what you get as far as that said. Joe, let's go to you first.

Are you surprised that they finally moved on from Trey? No, I'm not surprised. I thought the writing was on the wall because they played so great when he was in the lineup. And then you put the ball in the hand. and Jalen Johnson, I didn't know he could play make the way he does. I didn't need play. Like I told y'all, I just told, oh, in the month of December,

he averages triple double. Yeah. Like, that's rare for a guy, six, nine, handling the rock, he can score the ball, he can make guys around him better. And then the guys that surround him, they all lock in, play defense.

They gritty, bro. They gritty. So I think they kind of showed when Trey was absent out the lineup, and obviously, they was ready to move on from him. That's why you don't let nobody

get your father. And that's why when you buy a belly They said when you buy a bill, they keep low miles on it. When you sell you, get your money back. Exactly. So I guess Atlanta tried to sell Tray, get their money back,

they give you somebody else. But they really didn't get money. They basically got CJ on an expiring contract. That seemed like the way they wanted to go to have some maneuverability this off season. Right. So, I mean, Tray was the face of the franchise.

I don't think Atlanta ever forgave them for swapping. You had Luca. You traded Luca for Trey. And I think trade was perfect for the city because Atlanta, but you look at what Luca doing, Luca. Right. Neither one to play defense, though, O.

Neither one to play defense, but I think Atlanta didn't go to get the pieces of their fit with Trey, L.A. would get the pieces of that fit with Luke. Luca, correct. But Luca's still a problem, too. He's 6-6, Trace 5, 11, 6 feet. But my thing is, both are going to shoot the three. I think Luka maybe get the guys involved more than the trade,

but trade is small. Yeah. So in Washington, he can be okay. Because they need somebody to bring the fans in. Yes. And then his contract, they're going to pay him for the next three or four years. He's going to get his money. Yes.

But they're going to see what can be involved with the team. That's going to be the thing. I think the biggest thing is also, Joe, is that being a great player on a bad team. They're a bad team. Just get your numbers. That's the year. That's what you're going to get. You'll get your money.

Guys get their numbers. They get paid. Teams, when they pay you that's $34 million, they want to see something. Yeah. Most of a lot of these guys get that $34 million, they game going. another way. Yeah. They're not really they're not looking. And look on really good team you can't

be paying a whole bunch of guys. You've got to like settle in now. Oklahoma City you saw what they did. They gave Shane his money. They gave Jay Dub his money. They gave his money. At some point time, you can't pay everybody everybody can't be on a max contract. So they're going to start losing some of those auxiliary

pieces. Kind of like what happened with our Golden State. Yeah. They're retired and these other guys start going different places and start branching off. So it cuts into your depth. But you look at Atlanta, I still don't think Atlanta is a contender. Even with CJ and Johnson and Dice and Daniels and Walker, I don't. They probably need about another piece or two, meaning as far as Biggs, another rim protector,

a guy who can move, great in pick and roll, things of that nature. But I think they're on the right trajectory as far as, you know, where they're trying to go. Now, are they going to get there? I don't know. But I like the team that they have. those guys, blue collar workers, they got some guys who can score. And like I say, big fella, Jalen Johnson,

he makes all those guys better. So they're a fun team to watch, though. He definitely should be, he definitely should be an all-star. Oh, he'd be all-N-B-A, all-N-B-A. Yeah, all-N-B-A. Yeah, all-N-B-A. Yeah, all-N-Bey-A. Yeah, I didn't know he could come like that.

But this brings something else to the latter, the ball flowing. Yeah, there you go. Guys stand around waiting, what trade going to do the ball. Right, so now they're going to have more team chemistry. And when you get more team chemistry, everybody's going like, okay, go out and fight every night.

Everybody feel like they're part of the night. Right, they're going to go out and fight every night. So now they go, like I said, the fans might be mad and trading, but they're going to see you like on the floor. That's what you're going to see the difference. Yeah, yeah. And ball hoppers. Oh, I know you follow football.

So what do you think? You see the first game on Saturday, you got the Broncos, Buffalo, and then you got the 49ers who went into Philly and pulled an upset. They take on the Seattle Seahawks. The Seahawks beat them the last game of the season to take over that division. and then you got the Patriots take on the Texas and then you got, yeah, and the Broncos and Buffalo.

Who are you like? I don't know, it's going to be tough. I've been saying you're seeing something probably the best football in years. Right. Guys, you know, going down to the last possession and the defenses, you know. I don't know that.

I know they want Buffalo to be there, but, you know, you got to win the game to get there. Exactly. But I think I'm going to go with the young dogs. I'm going to go with Houston. And I think, you know, Even Seattle is playing great. But I think New England, Buffalo, I probably take New England, New England,

New England, Seattle in the Super Bowl. Wow. I like that. I can see that. I like that. A rematch of Super Bowl 49. There you know. Maybe it'll be a different outcome.

You got a baby Tom Brady. Yeah. And they got that defense in Seattle. Defense of Seattle. Yeah. Yeah. Man, O'Creciate you joining us for football. No problem, man.

Thank you guys. Boys, not, I appreciate you, man. Oh, got me. Oh, come to get that money to you. Yeah, na, nine, nine. Let me go. He owe me old. So let me go out.

I'm going to collect oak money. I'm going to let go out. I'll set it. I ain't long at nobody home this long. My issue is to be troubled. Oaks, he's a long shark. Trial. He'll go.

10,000, 10,000, $40. Damn. You got it. He don't cover it now. He don't cover it now. That's all there. I'm saying. Appreciate your own best.

Thank you, stop me by, man. Appreciate it. Gotta be some interest on now. Jay, fucking, what they do, baby? Huh? Well, he's good to see you brought everything good. Well, you look good. What's up, bro?

You good? Joe Mo. Shit, Joe always got this shit on all right. Yeah. Man, we good. We good. What's good with it? Jay, what's up, baby?

I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good. I mean, hold on. Let me see what time to make you. What do you want to do? The gym is open. No, I mean, five o'clock? You out this.

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Yeah. You know, you're a night out. You normally staring around midnight. I got to get the business done. Yeah. I got to wake up early and go outside and do some businessmen. Right. So what's good?

What's going on for the day? Um, it came to check your house. I appreciate. We appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate it. Congratulations you all for what you got going on. Appreciate it.

I appreciate it. I'm a fan and Amaya what you've been doing on both of your shows. Appreciate it. Let me ask you there. You got music coming out? We got some music coming out. We also got a show that's been running, doing pretty good for this past three months.

I'm excited. Hey, man, change this out. Man, why you be going back and for with everybody? Man, let people live, man. It's all the amount. We live in an algorithm world, right? There you go. Yeah, yeah.

Ringmaster. You heard? And you can't let nobody just take no shots at you. You got to play. And there's a, there's a, like, you know, it's only for so much you can take. Sometimes you got to bust a little shot back. Yeah.

And if they fall for the bait, then you know how to manipulate. the algorithm in your favor and bend it to turn it to make something for you, then I always take my negatives and turn them into a positive. So the more you put me in front of your explorer page, the more I have to offer to those people that want to know

who I am. Right. And why are you in this front of this explorer page? Yeah, so you want their fans' eyeballs on you. Of course. And if they're not talking about you, then you're not doing something right. If you ain't got no haters, you ain't popping. It's always been that way. Right. I heard you mentioned a

the Chrome Heart situation. And then Chrome Heart has, you're like, bro, I was with Chrome Heart 10, 15 years ago. And now I only do Chrome Heart because everybody wearing it. Y'all tried to make it something more. And we was, when it wasn't popping, Jones was in Chrome Heart. We were Chrome Heart. Shout to Chrome Heart. I don't wear it as much as I used to.

When we started, it was something that a lot of people didn't know about it. I wouldn't say I'm the first rapper to wear it because I see, but I'm the first rapper to bring it to the game that made an aesthetic for people to to wear as a lot of it. 100%. And now it's commercialized. I'm not mad at it. They're getting their money. You heard? Like for a long time, they've been under the radar for a very expensive brand.

And now the kids then took it to a whole other level. So I'm not mad at what they do. And the funny part about it, Chrome Hearts and some of these other high-end brands, we weren't even their target audience. No. We weren't their target audience. But because it's someone like Jimmy, and I can remember back in the day, because I'm older than you, I'm 58. So I remember seeing you in it and not knowing what it was

and doing my homework. and shoot, man, years later, you know. I mean, most of the high-end brands, we weren't the target audience. But you see, because, Jim, you remember this. I remember back in the early 2000, they made, like Louis Vuittani Gucci, they wouldn't make a number of extra large.

Now they make double, they make triple, because guess what? Athletes got money. So if they go squeeze in it, let's make it big enough for them to pay. Athletes are entertainers. Yeah. They used to, I'm trying to tell you,

I forget the brand. that the biggest shoe size they had was a 12. Well, a lot of people that got big money were 13, 14, 15. Yeah. They didn't get fit. Because before, if you wanted a big-sized shoe, I don't know if you know Freeman.

You remember Freeman? Yeah, yeah. They was the only one that if you wanted a skiing shoe. They got it. And you wanted the bigger size, you had to go there. But you see all these other guys, and they're like, wait a minute. We're letting somebody monopolize on something that we can get.

It's just like cards. You know, remember, if you wanted to swayed, You mean to tell me y'all to spend the extra 10,000? Well, I'll snap it on there for you. You put a sound system in there. They got hard and carbon. They got all these bowls surround sound. They got everything.

Cars even coming with tinted windows now. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. You know, the car going to come fully. You can order everything you need for a car right now. Anything that you would get out the market, it'll come on. On the car from the factory. Yeah.

You're absolutely right. right, man. So things of change. What's the biggest change that you know to, Jim, in the music industry? From when you first got into what you see right now? How music is consumed, because when we did it, it was like a treasure hunt. We get to go to the actual music stores, go pick up the

CDs, put it in the CD and listen to it. Now they just got to pick up their phone and press one button and they listen to it. And the tension span is way shorter than it was when we were actually enjoying the music store. But most artists now, they got to create a lot of music, way more music than we would when we were younger

and things like that, because a law of that expectation of new, it's gone. These kids they listen to the music and it's over with. It was fun though, Ocho. Oh yeah, it was. Absolutely. You remember them little boutique mom and pop shop? You go and you have them to play

it and you would actually listen to it. Yes, sir. And you listen to it. You could buy incense, you could buy, oh, you can buy cavils and stuff like that. And you listen to it and you say, you know what? Make your I want this, this, this on that, and then it turned you with 8 track at first, and then it turned to a CD, then it turned to the MP3. Now, there's, like you said, I mean, you just download, you go to YouTube and you go to Spotify,

you go to Apple Music, whatever the case may be. But the intimacy that you used to have, man, we really felt like we knew them artists. Yeah, right. Man, with BDK was out. Hey, bro, let me, hey, man, that new BDAQ, let's go hear that thing. The booklet, even the booklet that we said, that was. Yeah. They have all the songs in the word.

You remember the word. Where the state of music is right now. And have you been able to, how do you feel the transition for you as being trying to evolve now that music is different as opposed to when you first started? I always try to keep up with the game. I mean, I'm not mad at anything. I'm following the business. I've created my own business model when it comes to the new way that music is consumed and brought right now.

And I've always been an independent artist, so I've got to do things on my own anyway. So right now, with these distribution deals that these artists are getting right now, I've already been on it. So I'm pretty much already been in the lane. But what's new for us now for artists like myself was we're embarking on podcasts. And what this podcast do is give us another lifespan and entertainment because now people get to learn about our personality as opposed to just hearing us on music and things like that. So it opens up a whole new door for people to get next to us and for us to keep getting money inside the entertainment world. Right. Hey, Jomo, I'll pay attention to you on IG.

I see you got a barbershop. You sell clothes in there. You do your podcast in there. Yes. What else are you trying to do in that space, bro? Well, I have a facility in the Bronx called an IFC. I'm building a multipurpose content facility for music, media, fashion, and broadcasts on all levels. So we have sound stages, podcast rooms, LED walls.

I also have a sneaker store in there, barbershop. in there, two studios, a grocery store in there. We shoot our own park guests in there with Fab and Maine and everybody, let's rap about it. We have photo rooms in there, like, so it's a full. That's a one-stop shop. You got to go to that way. Yeah, 100%.

That's the way they do it now. I mean, shopping grocery stores, now they sell wine. They got a bar in there. Hey, they'll make your sandwich. Why you, hey, why you shopping? Hey, why you shop at a ride? Hey, they'll fix you a drink. Yeah.

People pushing the car and drink in the hand. They don't keep you in there to keep spending that money. People like yourself, when you're coming town, like this is a place that you can go to, get multiple things done and get out of there. Not to mention the shopping, but like, I'm open 24 hours. Right. You got some dripping there for you, boy. 100%. I got to get the super tall sizes now.

That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. You got to get you right. Jim, you touched on this earlier because at first it was 8-track, then it became the CD, then the MP3. the iPod has become absolutely I think Apple don't even make iPods anymore So now the way that you're doing

Is that you like the way we consume music Is that you always want to make sure I'm in a position that I can have people consume my music And so what's what's the next transition Is it always going to be Because I don't think we're ever going back I don't think they're going to be some niche Where you sell a couple hard copies

Nostal nostalgia value but we're not going Yes 100% I mean, I believe we're in a place where if you have the influence and your artists that've been in the game, you can kind of curate your own business model when it comes to the fans that love you. Because if you have a group of fans, a couple thousand, a couple thousand fans that's going to dive into everything you got, buy everything you got. You could make a hell of a living just for those small numbers every month. Just keep feeding them different things, merch. Like, it's this, you know what I mean?

So for artists that been in this game, I think this is a great time for them to really double. down on the legacy and all the work they put in to continue to make money. Because you're giving it directly to the consumer. Instead of having to go through this person, that person, this. Yeah, yeah. It's way easier now because everything's on the phone. So this is much as quick as you can go to iTunes.

If you are artists that have some influences, you can get the directed consumer. They're going to go right to your website and get what they need from you. So, I mean, it's a great time if you got hustle in you. If you don't got hustle in you, it might not work for you the way you need to. thing you say, you got to hustle. Yes.

People ain't giving out free money. People not, bro, you got to go get it. It's out there, too, nice. It's out there. It's out there. It's out there. Yes, it's out there. But you have to go get it.

And, you know, the thing is, and a lot of times, maybe, Jimmy, you say you've always been independent, but a lot of times the label took care of everything. They did the marketing. They did studios. They did the class. No, you got to, you got to do all that on your own now. But all that pie where they were taking, well, you know, we did get to sit this collab up and we did book this studio and we did do this.

By the time you get your money, you're like, well, what happened to my money? Well, we had to market it and we had to, you know, get the radio spins and we had to do all this and Xyz. That's why you'll check little or nothing. Where if you hustle yourself, a piece of the pie? Big a piece of the pie. And that's what it's about. Yes, it is. So, man, I'm excited, man.

Thanks for coming out. Richard. Really appreciate you coming out, hanging out with boys. Boys Night Out. Netflix. Thank you again. The Rip, getting ready to go see. Matt Damon, Van Affleck,

Tiana Taylor, who just won an award. It's going to be awesome. I can't wait to see it. Let me ask you this deal. Let me ask you a deal. You walk into a room. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you're a police officer.

You walk into a room. 20 million. Cash, unmarked bills. You turn it all in. How much do you keep? I turn in $100,000. Right, man. You got a good amount, but not a lot of

a mouth, but not a lot of dollars. This has a he keeps it three. This is a hundred thousand. They're going to be investigating He better than me. You keep it off. What? They investigate you, Ojo.

They're going to investigate you. But I didn't know. Hey, Joe, you know. Listen, hey, who what? Man, you have to be a sub-tubble. This is what we found. How about we looked and we didn't find anything? find anything.

We didn't find nothing. We didn't find nothing. We're going to be in the United. Yeah. We don't leave nothing. Oh, absolutely. Oh, shit. I ain't going to lie, boy.

Hey, being in that situation. Yeah. That's if it was three, if it was us three. Yeah. And we was on duty. Yeah. And we went in there and found 20 million. Yeah.

Yeah, we're going to have to hold up on their call. Yeah. We don't have to hold up on the car. But yo, we got to hold up on. Oh, no. We're going to hold up on. No, no. No, okay, it's what we gonna do.

It's what we do. Okay. It's 20 million. 20 million. How long you've been on the fourth? You get ready to retire, right? Yeah, yeah. I just moved the process of.

I was about to retire in 10 years. I just cut it down in 10 months. So you get ready to retire. Five, five. We turn it five million. We turn it in. We turn in five million. Yeah.

They won't investigate us on that. No. They're going to, they're going to. But you can't go out there buying, uh, cullin and all that. Yeah. I already got all that, so not. Yeah. Now, but I'm saying if you were a police officer.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I'm not going to do that. You got to leave, you got to live in a salary. No, I don't know, police officers pinching. Yeah. Yeah. Because you ain't got no salary, remember? You got no more occupation.

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I'm going to go try to buy a nice house. But you can't do none of that. No. What's up, man? What's up? What's up? You got to. You got another special guest joining us.

Boys night out. The real. Yeah. What's the vibe? Man, what's good? What's good? Let's do. Let's rap about it, man.

We're out here moving. Get into it. What's you've been on Lately? Man, we got that podcast. Yeah. You Davey? You're me? No, I'm named on. Jimmy?

Yep. Me. How you like the podcast space so far? I love it. I love it. What do you love about it so far? I love the fact that I could be honest and I could tell all my business. Right.

You can tell your story before somebody else put out half of your story. They can't use it against you when you put it out there on. Did you ever see yourself being a podcast at all? Well, I had a podcast before. Okay. Right. So I was doing a podcast. It was called Kitchen Talk.

And I did kind of good with it. You know, I wound up doing a deal with Fox Soul. Okay. But when I did the deal with Fox Soul, it kind of changed the dynamic. It wasn't a podcast no more. Yeah. And then I kind of lost the heart of doing it. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. So because it wasn't, it didn't feel fluent. Right. You know? But with this, because we all, we all got that relationship, it's like y'all guys. Yeah. You got a real relationship, so it's easy to kick it.

Yeah. So who's on your podcast? Who's with you? Me, Jim Jones. Right. Fabulous. Okay. And Dave.

Yeah. That's all. Because we had them all, and he was talking about doing the podcast. Right, so all four of us. So let me ask you a question. So what do you guys? You got mainly music. You talk sports.

What do you guys? No, we talk life, man. We talk fatherhood. We talk what it is, the balance, you know, life being in the industry, you know, and just topics of life. Right. You know, we can't just keep it. Just music. Everybody's not going to relate to that.

How often are you guys? How often do you shoot the pod? We shoot every week. Every week. Once a week. And we drop it once a week. When it comes to music, the state of the music industry today, what's your thoughts on it as opposed to what it was, let's say, when you first started doing. Talking rap.

Yeah, rap. To where it is not special no more. Right? So everybody's our artists. So it's not something, you know, that's looked at it's so obtainable that it's like out of reach, right? So when I was trying to get on, I was like, man, getting on alone, just getting a record deal alone. You felt like you just hit the pros. Yeah, right, right.

You just got a deal. Like, you just went to the NFL or the NBA. But now it's just that you could just have Pro Tools. You can go on your mama basement. You can make records. You can go upload it on YouTube. It's just not special, you know? It's the quantity.

It's so much of it, you know, compared to being real quality rap music. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Is that what's happened? Is that what diluted it down? I mean, you got every, you got more rappers than people on earth. Everybody to rap with that. You got more rappers than people on earth. Right, right.

Every time I turn around, and to know, disrespect to nobody, because I get it, we all had a dream and we were trying to fight our way out of something, whether it was street life or, you know, prison life, whatever it is. Like, we was trying to make something. And, you know, everybody's still trying to make it,

but the game is just not as special as it felt anymore. Like, when he'd be like, I'm a rapper, I'm like, you know what, I'm a little bit more than just that. Right. You know? Right. So what happened to the game? What happened to rap?

Somebody, I've heard Keith Sweb was talking. He said the reason why R&B is not special because all you do is courage. See, R&B was supposed to be, I think he said like four players. And now you're getting straight to it. He's a, ain't no build. Ain't no buildup.

Ain't no buildup. Ain't no buildup. It's straight to it. So, I mean, the music is, the music is supposed. The music is supposed to be the soundtrack of our lives. Yes. Right? It's supposed to be.

Right. So if you're going through something, you're supposed to have something to go with that. Right. If you want a party, you're supposed to be something to go with that. Right. So when you had Pock in them,

you had music that kind of that you, it wasn't about clubbing all the time. It was about, like, something that you felt. Right. Something that you related to. Something that you, you know, some inspiration made you think. Right.

Now it's like, if you don't got a party song, then. Yeah. And if you ain't going viral, But then what? What we're doing? Yeah, well, nobody wasn't talking about no bottle service. Right.

Not that I think about it, you think about rap from the 80s. You think about rap from the 90s. Even the early 2000s, everyone had a story to tell. It was a great story. Right, right, right, right, right. That's how they grab you first. Right, right, right, right. And I'm about just talk about one song.

Right. You have some artists that have not quantity when it comes to music, but quality. Yeah. Because you want to hear what story they have to tell based on life experiences. Because we tapped into those artists a lot. a lot more. You got a chance to actually know who those artists are.

So the industry is not they're not building stars no more. Right. Right. So there's so many artists right now that you're like, I don't know who this guy is. Correct.

And everywhere you go, personal trip, business trip, there's rappers. Yeah. Right? And somebody might tap and say, Shannon, you know who that is? You're like, I don't know who the hell out of it.

This is what I'm trying to tell you. Right. So there's more rappers than people on the planet. So it's just not that special as it used to be, man, you know. But I respect the game because it gave us the opportunity to be here. Right. You know, if it wasn't for, you know, music and the opportunity to do music and see the world,

then, you know, I wouldn't be here talking to y'all now. What happened to the storyteller? You know, when rap first originated, it was storytellers. Slick, Slick, yeah. You had BD. He's going to be joining us a little bit. Oh, yeah, Big Daddy K. Yeah, that's right.

EPMD. EPMD. Yeah. You had Rock Hill. Mark him. K.R. Maybe. Elite storytelling.

Starface. You had guys that could really tell a story. What do those guys go with? I feel like those guys are still there. I feel like there's still guys that still make. Maybe cold. Definitely. It's the artists that do that.

But it's just so oversaturated. Right? It's just you turn on your Instagram and you're seeing so much of just over-stimulation. It's just too much. information, too many ads, too many, you know, artists selling something. So I think it's still there. I think if you look for it, I think you've got a lot of dope artists that still, you know, speak from their heart and make quality music, man.

Yeah, I think the way we consume music nowadays. Fats, microwave. Yeah, compared to back in the day, we heard on the radio, MTV or BET or the box or whatever the case may be now. Like you say, we consume so much. You're not even asking for it. I'm not even asking for it. But the thing is, you see what you said, like, you would discover music on the radio, right?

And then you would discover it maybe if you went outside. Yeah. Right. But now it's just like, it's on this device. Hand-held device. Yeah. And the device is everything. We can move it differently.

And it's so fast. We don't get, like, we would, remember artists was dropping albums two years. Yeah. They drop an album and then tour. tour, put out videos, and in another two years, they'll drop another album. Now you got to drop it every 90 days. It's recorded. The only thing, the only way you could consume music back then was in your car or at home.

That's right. There wasn't no phone. There was no phone. Right. And you wait, you're like, oh, man, hey, bro, I just got that. You could wait to pull that paper out there and put, punch that eight track in or put that seat up or the 45, you know, the 45, you know, the 45 put the pin it down. So the thing went back, hey, man, we're still scratching my record.

Right, right, right. Those were the day. It's different. And you know what? We get that a lot with athletes because we compare today's athletes. Say, man, I remember back in the day and the same thing than 80s. And I know they get that. You guys get that a lot.

Yes. What is it fair to compare? No. Because it's a different time. Yes. And the dynamic is different. Yes. Society is different.

The environment is different. And the way we look at things, the way we look at sports. the way we listen to music. Yes. So is it fair to compare? No, it's not fair. And the thing, you know, the biggest thing is, is that now athletes have something to compare. They look at these guys.

These guys are talented. The rappers now have broader vocabulars and they are able to rap about more things than those guys wrapped about back in the day. It's just, it's called evolution. That's right. It doesn't matter. You look at whether it's a horse is or whatever the case may be. They've gotten better over time.

But people just want to hold on to the. the aeromano. I ain't that's right. It's like that common conversation of LeBron Georgia.

Yeah. Right? This is what we're talking about, right? So, Mike with legacy, right, in a shorter amount of time.

Yeah. LeBron with a longer career, you know, who's right, who's wrong? Right. It's just what you like.

And the people, people are not going to let go because Michael made the shoe. People used to wear shoes. just to the court. That's the only time you wore a basketball shoes. You didn't wear a basketball shoes going to class or going to a club.

Right. You wore a basketball shoe. You was pooping. He made it to where we went outside. Yes. It was fashionable. Once entertainers started wearing it, it was a rap. And they started putting them in movies, guys dressing up with sneakers on. That's when we're going to another level. But look how the kids wasn't even born.

Go crazy. Go crazy. Yeah. That wasn't even born when these shoes. came out. Nope. He's born in the 2000s. It's like, I got the Jordan.

It's like, you know what I mean? I mean? You remember, man, oh, your mom and your grandma, like, boy, I ain't paying no $40 for no shoes. And then Jordan came out. I was $100. No way. No way.

Boy, you had to work so hard and so low to get $100 for a shoe. Yeah, $100. Do you realize how much $100 was back in $19? That's right. That's like, yeah, $500 now, right? That was 40 years ago. Yeah. and people were lined up

every once in a while you see it now, but mainly it's with a specialty shoe. This was a mass-produced shoe and people would lined up miles just to get it. So is that a, you know, is that, does that say something about his greatness?

Oh, yeah, absolutely. He had to be great. His legacy is a good. Because who, no other shoe in the history of what else? And when people had, and when athletes had shoe, When they retired, they stop making the shoe.

You look at the weapons. The weapons, bird and... The Converse. They stopped making it. The Dr. Jay Converse. They stopped making it. Corrine had the top 10 of Jesus. They stopped making them. You know, everybody at first, we were in the Chuck Taylor's. And then the Chuck Taylor's kind of went away because

the technology with Nike with the technology. Jordan was the first athlete that once he retired, he was more, his shoe became more popular once he retired than when he played. And it's like it's everlasting. Never gonna stop. It was so iconic, bro.

So iconic. And the funny thing about it is, the shoe, he's coming here, and the shoes continue to recycle. Yep. Yes. Right.

This is what I'm saying. It's still a line. And it's the classics. Yeah. The ones, two, fours. You know what changed it? The Concord.

When he came out with that black and white pat level, and then the brands came out in 96, it was over. And then guess what? He came out with the cool grade. Was he came out with a pat-leather shoe? It was a rap.

Wow. It was over. So, so not only is he the most iconic player of all the time. His sneaker is the most iconic. Yes. Safe to say. They can't top it. They can't top it.

It's safe to say. Nobody's ever touching that. Nobody's ever touching that. You know what it's like? It's like Michael Jordan. You can say somebody has more talent, but you will never see a artist. Do what Mike. did. People fell out. Mike just came on stage and stood there for 10 minutes.

People passed out. Didn't even... Yes, Michael MJ. Wow. Don't repeat it. Because it was special then because we didn't have this device in our hand. We didn't see everything. Yeah. It was too much access we got right now because it was a mystique to to the people that we, you know, looked up to the stars and superstars. And when you really saw them, it. It meant something. Right. Because you weren't seeing them on social media. If you ever was somewhere, that's Michael Jordan.

Yeah. That's Michael Jordan. The only time you saw him was on the court. Yeah. First time I seen Big Daddy King pulled up on my block and the Bovo, the white Volvo. Tell him I told you, outside with just cables on. Yeah.

Oh, God, this game. Because we wasn't seeing them. Yeah. Special. Yeah. Special. D.D.K. With that guy.

Yeah. With the high top. Yeah. Yeah. He was the fuck guy with a suit. And I feel like he was the first to kind of like start doing brand stuff. Yeah, he was. He modeled with Madonna.

This is what I'm saying. Stuff that people would be crucified back then. Yeah. We're doing it now. Yeah. Yeah. To broaden your horizons. Yeah.

We'll get him in here. Mato. Hey. Appreciate you, bro. Appreciate you. Yeah, sir. Love. That's my dog.

Meadow. Good to see you. Yeah. Appreciate you, bro. That's our love. Kay, that's the bad. That's the... What's up, baby?

OG, triple OG. Again. BDK. Hey, Kay, talk to us. I mean, this is your... This is where it all started. And you and I had the conversation when you was on Club Shay-Shay,

and you was talking about Brooklyn, Bronx, buggy BDP, you guys, the Jews crew, All-Stars, and all you guys. Talk to us about that because you said, man, I just wanted to rap.

I thought I had a talent, and I just wanted to showcase that talent. Tell us, give our audience a little bit of how you got started in the rap game. Well, yeah, basically, I started doing it because my older cousin was doing it. Okay. And when people in the neighborhood was telling me that I was good at it, I stuck with it. And my whole goal and objective was really just to be the best MC in the neighborhood.

Okay. You know, I'm going to different projects, you know, in Brooklyn. battling people, things of that nature, trying to take out whoever the best MC in this project is, who are the best MC in this high school is. And that was really all I could see until I met

Biz. When I met Biz, and I met Biz when I asked him for a battle. Right. And then he told me that he'd be doing shows and asked me to get down with him. Right. And then from that point, the rest was history. We were talking to Mano, and when you and I talked, we were talking about the storytellers.

You were one of the first storytellers. A rock him storyteller. Slick Rick. Slick Rick. Slick Rick. Slick Rick. Well, Grand Master Cairds is the first storyteller. But Slick Rick is the one that's really patterned it and set of standards.

Yeah. Here's a little story not long ago. Yeah. Well, I mean, even before that, you know, lotti-doddy. Lottie, dottie. Lottie, you like the potty. And by the girl on the show to Me, Shell. Yeah.

Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Will we ever see rap as it once was, the rap that you know, the rap that you grew up with, the rap that in, you know, 10 years when you were in, will we ever see that era again? That all depends on radio and media.

It all depends on radio and media because I see it every day. It's here right now. When you look at Lady London, when you look at Conway the Machine, Benny the Butcher. There's artists right now that's doing. what we did in the 80s, what artists did in the 90s, they're just not really getting the exposure. They're not commercialized. So it's gonna really be up to radio and the media,

but they are here right now. Right. You know what I think, honestly? And that's a good question that you just asked. Will music ever be like it was in the 80s and 90s? Look at fashion. Fast is now, history repeats itself. And now we're back wearing baggy clothes. We do we're doing bell bottle.

Yeah, bell bottom. We're doing some of stuff we did in the 80s. Well, I ain't go back to the baggie yet. No, you didn't. Not yet? Not yet. Okay, okay. Yeah.

You ain't going back to the bell bottoms? Oh no, I got bellbott. Yeah, you put the bell bottle. You got a smile when you said that. Yeah, I got a few of those. I got you. You know, that's really 70s. Yeah.

I couldn't wait for that to come back. Yeah. That polly up the bell bottom. No, since 98, I've been sitting patiently waiting for the bell bottom. Yeah, I think music will evolve at some point, the same way fashion as, the same way everything has in general. Right. Where again, we will have the quality of emcees and lyricists that we're used to

hearing instead of, I hate to use the word mumble rap, but at times I don't understand what people are saying. I just don't. I'm just going to be honest. And we're going to get back to our lyricists being more commercialized and sought after and being on, you know, at the top of the hill. Yeah. But even with radio played BDK. Let me add on to that

one second. But like I was saying, it's here. Yeah. Right. Right. It just has to be presented mainstream. Right. Because think about it. Now, when you talk about back then, when it was lyrical, Yes. We also had,

Izzy, missu, kizzle, whizzle, you know what I'm saying? So we had mumble rap too. Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, okay. You know, but I mean, you know, it's like, I just think that it's a matter of the media and radio, making it the forefront.

Right. We were just talking about, you were one of the first ones to rap and have a suit on. Like, what did your fashion for design come from growing up? Like, what made you get up and, you know, want to rap

and be decked out like that? Well, my father, you know, he was addressing. My father, you know, he had mink and rabbit coats. He wore like the Gators and the Pierre Cardan shoes. Yeah. You know, like, that's, I didn't even know that there was a such thing as a four-piece suit. You know, I saw my father, you know, put the wears on.

You know, the pants, the vest, the blazer, and the duster. You know, I didn't know there was a such thing as a four-piece suit. So, you know, as a little kid, you know, my pops go to work, and I put one of his suits on the stand in front of the mirror and try to sing Marvin Gayle, let's get it on. Yeah. So I was attracted to that fashion from childhood. Oh, okay. But Marvin was a guy, Marvin Gay, Sam Cook, dressed on stage.

But it was different. They weren't rap, but they were singer. There was crooners. But you were talking about the commercialization and getting back to produce some music. But when we actually get into our cars now, do we still consume music the same way, or do we go to a specific station

to listen to a specific genre of music? Because when I get in, all I listen to is the grooves. All I want to go to. We, who? Me, us, you. I mean, you actually listen to the radio? Well, we're 50 plus. That's all I'm asking.

Who you referring to? Do you think young, like 20s? No. No. Because, you know, I have a 13-year-old son. And when I let him control the radio, yeah, he's a DJ. It's like, we listen into this.

That song go off. He turns to a little. another station. That go off. He turned to another station. That go off. He switched to media and put his phone on. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, he just all over the place. So it's really hard because, you know, man, we turned to our favorite station with our hour 93.1. And they just hit. You just, you just jam it. And you really- tell you something. And I really talk about this because I know people will clown me for it. Right. But, bro, right now in 20-26, I still have an iPod in my car. It still work?

Do it still work? Let me explain something to you. I mean, but the car, the car, obviously. No, no, no, listen, all you got to do is just lightning to USBC. Oh, yeah, you got to have a core. Yeah, okay, okay. USBC into the car and then the lightning into the iPod. Yeah.

And I was sit in my house and put together a nine-hour playlist and drive from North Carolina to New York, listening to that one playlist. Right, yeah. Yeah. So right now I have WBDK in my car, my own radio station. You understand? Kay, we talked about, like, when we, that was cool.

It was cool to go to the LaMond and pop shop, put the record on, put the hip on, on, you can listen to it. Oh, yeah. And you know what I'm saying? It was something special about that. The incense were burning, and you know, hey, make me an eight track. Yeah. And so you get all your favorites, put them on that eight track.

You're good to go. Then it came to CD. I missed that. There are no more Tile records. Yeah, they do have a couple of mommy shops when you go thumb through, because there was something to go thumb through those those and look at the 45s.

Yeah, yeah, go crate digging. Yeah, I used to, I used to, don't forget about the jukebox. The jukebox? Go on somewhere as the jukebox. Those we used to do in the diner. Yes, yes. Like after the club, you're in the diner.

You put money in the jukebox. Put a water in that thing, you play. Yeah. The mom and pop shop. You miss those days, Kay? Absolutely, absolutely, because, you know, they focused on a lot of new talent, not just, you know, what was mainstream on the radio. You can learn about new R&B artists, new rap arts, you know, from the mom and pop stores.

You know, artists that weren't, didn't have the record stands at the Sam goodies or the coconuts. Yep, yeah. You know what I miss the most? And this generation will never know. Soul train. Soul trade. introduce you to more artists than any other

Soul Train and American Bandstand. And everybody would run home because you know at 12 o'clock or 1 o'clock so then hit this trip in America. Oh yeah, nah. It was beautiful, man. I mean, I used to love watching Soul Train and the Soul Train line.

See in the Scrabbleboard. You know, even though the Scrabble Boat was always easy to figure out. but still just to see it. You know, I mean, that and hearing all the music because you had artists performing their hits, but the dancers throughout the episode was dancing to a lot of B-side cuts

that you may have never heard. So it was introducing you, you know. And to see those artists get up there, whether it was very wide or Terry Pendergrapher, Harold Melvin and the blue nose, the stylistic, I mean, it was just like, but I do know this. The big bands, they're not coming back. Oh, no.

Let me ask you this. And this is what I came, and I wanted to ask you this. You remember when the duets, you had Rufus and Shaka. You had Peaches and Herds. You had Renee and Angela. You had Stephanie Mills and Teddy Pendergraf. You had fire and ice. Tina Marie and Rick James.

Oh, my goodness. We ain't never getting that back. Will we ever see Duo's peer like that again? I would hope so. I think that something like that may happen for a project. Yeah. Not as a group that want to, you know, make a career of it. But I think something like that may happen as a project.

Yeah. You know, Marvin Gaye and Tammy Terrell. I mean, Barry White. Glodyne? Yeah. Barry and Glodyne, yeah. Their song together, you is one of my favorites. The funny thing about it is everything you just named, Ohio players, the IASY brothers,

the sound of music has evolved to where those that, that even have the ability to sing in those groups. Don't even sound like that. Or the music they make, it sounds nothing like it did back then. Yeah, I still go. Like, that music is timeless. Yeah. In any era, you're going to be able to listen to it.

That big band in the 70s when you had the Ohio players, you had Earth Wind and Fire, you had Casey and the Sunshine Band, you had the barcades, you had Lakeside, you had the stylistic. That's, man. Oh, yeah. You had the Commodores. Before Lionel winner, you had LTD.

Before he, what was the guy? What was the lead singer, LTD? Jeffrey Osborne. Jeffrey. Before he left. Oh, that's classic. Well, you know, I grew up listening to a lot of that real deep soul. So, like, you know, a lot of my favorite singers were like, you know, Marvin Gay, David Ruffin.

Yeah, okay, okay. Willie Hutch. Okay. Bobby Womack. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, Wilson Pickett.

Yep. You know, I love those raspy voices, you know. Yeah. Those guys, and like you said, I don't know if we're ever going to see the duet, like you said, maybe for a project. Yeah, for a project. But it used to be the hero Stephanie Mills and Marvin Gaye. You mean Ted and Pendergrapher.

Teddy Pendergast and Stephanie Mills. And she this big and voice. Was this be? Powerful. Oh, my goodness. I need to see her in concert. I really need to see her concert. No, she tears it down.

Oh, yeah. Like, certain artists from that era right now still tear. Stephanie Mills, Evelyn Champaign, Sheila E. Shane. Shillet, nice. They're cutting up to this day. Just this day. Like, let me tell you something, man.

Back in 1987, there was a club called the Red Parrot in New York. I had a show there with Evelyn Champagne King. And they wanted... Don't lose your love. The promoter and my manager wanted me to close the show. Okay. The promoter. Yeah.

Evelyn Champagne King manager wanted her to close. So I just happened to come to sound chain. And I'm like Evelyn Champaign King is a legend, man. I don't want to go on after her. Right. And I'll pay homage. She need to close. Right.

Nope. I'm glad I did that. Yeah. Brough? When I tell you, dancing, then just left the microphone, started shaking the tambourine, playing the bongos and all.

Like, yeah, she got busy. Man, busy. Those, uh, Rose Royce was another group. No, those were, and, you know, you wait, you go home because you didn't know who was going to be on Soul. It's just not like now they would promote it. Yeah. You just watch Soul Train.

And then everything was a surprise. Who came was who came? Yeah. And, boy, you were just by that TV like, and especially the episodes when Dawn opened up the mic. and let you sing for real. What? You're doing with that long stick, Mike?

No, I mean, like, you know, most people's lip syncing. Okay, no, no, no. So when he opened up the mic for people like Stevie Wanda, Minnie Rippleton, James Brown, let them sing for real. When Mitter Rivers said, loving you, that's my root-up mother. Loving you. It's easy. Those women have voices.

Tina Marie. Legend. Ain't nobody knew she was white. Boy, somebody, oh, she's white. Let's get out of my faith. That woman ain't white. Saying it like that. Not singing that's a lot.

Yeah, that one was hard to believe. But yeah, she was a serious soul sick. Yeah. Gina was the truth, man. Rest and peace. What is, Kay, what is it about women that soul? Because most of these women were tiny, tiny women. Huge voices.

With huge, huge voices. What is about a voice in that, in that frame? I mean, I don't know. I mean, you know, I can't really explain, you know, their anatomy. but I mean I would assume that church had a lot to do. Yes. Yes. You know, I'd assume the church had a lot.

Especially you think about Fantasia. Yes. Jennifer Hudson. Yes. But all those, you know, Aretha Franklin, all those women came, glad this night. All those women came. Whitney came to church background. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, man, listen, Fantasia made me moving my seat, man. I had to catch myself, man. I'm serious. We was doing a Patty LaBelle tribute. some years ago. Oh, Patty knows she could sleep. And Fantasia started blowing, and I caught my son. I'm like, no, no, I'm not going to have me doing that.

Like, I was sitting there squirming in the seat. Like, no. She can go down. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know who else? Throw this out there, one of the best voices of all time, all time. Yeah.

Kiki Wyatt. Oh, Kiki Wyatt is amazing. Yeah. She's amazing. I mean, there's so many, um, You know, young singers today with, you know, spectacular voices. Fantasia Kiki White, Jennifer Hudson, Leila James. Jasmine Sullivan.

Jasmine Sullivan. Yeah, yeah, this is a lot of them out of it. You still get excited to hear new music like you did when you first got into it? Absolutely. Because of, like, what you were saying, like, you know, how it is today. You know, like a lot of people, you know, whenever, where most people like singing in auto tunes. And they don't really, you know, a lot of people that blowing ain't really in style no more.

So when I do see a young artist doing something like that, like I'm amazed. I gravitate to it, you know. Yeah. Yeah, you know what? I had T. Payne on. And I didn't know T. Payne could really, really sing. Me neither.

I didn't know T. Payne could really, really sing. I mean, as far as rappers, he and Celo Green. Sele Green can. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, and he said, I said, well, I say, I say, I say, I say, uh, pain.

You got a voice. You can really, really sing. He said, but there ain't nobody paying for that. he said they're paying for this he said I had to give them what they wanted yes I mean when you you go back and listen to some of his covers

that he's done he did the Sam Cook version he did Sam Smith version now I listened to that whole last that last project he put out that's amazing I like you said I didn't know he could blow like that yeah he can get down

BDK the legend Big Daddy Kane Bro appreciate man, all the best. Thank you, good to see you. Good to see you. All right.

I'm saying. Good to see you. Big Denny Kaine. Love for you. Man, it's always like when you grow up and you meet these guys. I mean, I grew up with Big Denny Kaine. That's my era. You too.

That's my, that's my era. And to see him and to rock him and the slick ricks and all those guys that, you know, obviously have a relationship with Scarface. Those storytellers, you know. It's kind of like in the comedic world, you look at Dick Gregory really was the first one, and then you had a Cosby, and then you had Richard Pryor, and now you got Chappelle, George Carlin, Louis C.K., Bill Burr, someone like that, guys that not only make you laugh, but they make you think, and they talk about things that actually happen in society.

And right now, you know, Chappelle is at the top of that list. And when you had guys like BDK and these other guys that could tell you a story and make you think, You're like, okay. And they rap in such a catap, like you said, you could understand. After I heard about three or four times, hey, I know exactly when they say, hey, I bring that back. Go word. Go word. Go word.

Some of these guys, I listen to a thousand times. I still couldn't tell you what you say. That's because what they're talking about is not relatable. Right, you're right. It's not relatable to you. You know what I mean? What the old dudes talking about back in the day, you can understand you can relate. How they don't.

We don't. I don't age down, I don't phase out of whatever the case may be, but it's not the same anymore. Yeah. Man, we were talking about if we went into a room, we're all police officers, federal agents, and we walk into a room, $20 million on the table, us three. I mean, we can go ahead, hold on, matter of fact, let me help the people get y'all some visuals. Yeah, go bring that, prop.

Yeah, yeah. The prop. DJ, what's up, baby? Farad, this is good to see you, man. I'm doing amazing. Good to see you, bro. I'm doing great. I'm doing great.

How are you doing? Thank you. Happy to do you. You have a seat right there, bro. Yeah. We got a great question. I'm glad you just. Yes.

Break a couple more. It's stacks. What's up, baby? You're good? Good to see you. Talk to me. Go ahead and lead it off, bro. The money right there.

We're going to read it off. We're going to hypothetically. We're police officers. Okay. We walk into a room and there's $20 million in unmarked currency. It's sitting right there on the table. It's sitting right there. It's sitting right here.

There go. Right there. And nobody called it in. No, nobody called it in. No cameras. No cameras. We walk in there together. Yep.

20 million. Okay. Unmarked bill. So they're non-sequential because that gets your trouble. We've got to be careful with that next question. But anyway, so we walk into the room. What's our next place? We could take turning something, right?

There's going to be someone. I'm saying you can push you. This men are going to get us, go get us better a time. Yo, no. 20 will get you knocked, right? Five. Hold on. You got to think about it.

They sent us. They sent us folks to go see if there's something in there, right? Yes. There are no cameras. No. So all we have is each other. Yes. Your word.

Your trust. You trust in me. If it's 20 me in there, we're taking the whole 20. We're splitting it five. Oh, no. I'm good. I'm out. I'm out.

I'm out. I got to go. I'm going No, sir. So we turn in 15 and we split 5. No, no, no, we turn it in 5. We turn it in 5. Yes.

That makes me a little more comfortable. Yeah, but yeah, you can't. We're going to be on the surveillance for a minute, though. If we turn in 5, they're going to be wondering. Hold on. That's it. Was it a little more than that? No.

That's why we do. No, it wasn't. This is everything we got, boss. And we got to, because, you know, I'm, I'm 10 years away from retirement, but now I'm 10 months away from retirement. So I'm going to have to live on a police picture. Yeah. And I don't know how much police picture is.

If you see it in from retirement and it's turning into 10 months, oh, yeah, they're going to investigate it. And we don't know where the money comes from. We don't know who's it. No, we don't know who it is. We just know it's not ours. who is unimportant at this point in time. Y'all making all the money, it could be yours.

You might have, both y'all, y'all got so much coming in, you might have left some. No, but we're police officers. We forgot. We police officers. We police officers. Okay. Yeah, yeah. I think, I think three, three point seven per, I think we can make that work.

Now what we got to do is we got to hope one person out of the group just don't go haywire and go to doing something. I didn't got no business. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because once one person, they're going to be on all of us because they just sent all of now. They see Ocho don't bought them a brand new house and all that.

I'm going. I live in Dubai now. I'm out of here. Oh, yeah, we're in trouble. We're in trouble. We're in trouble. Guys, I'm out. We're in trouble.

We're in trouble. My officer, I'm out. I'm not a dude. Man on the police salary in Dubai. What police officer do you know in goodbye? I'm not going to go back. I'm not going to go back. Yeah, but you're not going to get us.

Yeah, you yes. Who are you guys? Who are you guys? Who are you guys? After my three, four, four, five, me. Oh, man. That's why we got to know who we're dealing with.

Who we're going to? Yeah, I'm going. Y'all just go ahead. I'm going to go on. Y'all let me know what y'all done and I can call it in. Oh, man. Ben, how you doing, bro? I'm blessed, man. I'm so happy to see y'all, man.

It's good to see my family. It's good to see you as well. We're talking to hypothetical because of the movie, the rip with Ben Affleck, Matt Dane, Tiana Taylor. And they go into a room. there's $20 million in cash and there are police officers. How much do you take?

How much do you keep? Do you take it all? Do you? And, you know, I understand, you know, people like, man, they dirty. Bro, $20 million. $20 million. It's about changing your life. That's life-changing money. That's life-altering money that you would never have the opportunity to make or let alone earn.

Yeah. This is about whatever I owe you. Take it right about it down. I'm going to be honest. I'm going to be honest. That's 50,000. So can you imagine 20 million just like this? You can't imagine that.

One thing I've learned is that nothing is for free. Everything comes right? Everything comes with a price. Come on now. So, I mean, if it's there, I understand maybe you, you know, you carve out a little something, but you got to watch out getting too greedy. Yeah. That's why we turn it in five million.

Yeah. If we were greedy, we take it all. But you know, hey, you know, I got to get my 10%. I got to give 10% over time. Because if I get 10% at one time, they're going to know something. They're going to know something up. But, yeah, but I definitely, you know, break the church off. Mount Zion Missionary Number World Baptist Church.

They're going to finally get that building paid for it. They'll get that building done. That building point just became complete. But, man, thank you for joining us on Boys Night Out, man. I really appreciate that, man. Thanks for stopping by. We can't wait to get over to the facility and check this movie out, meet the guys on the red carpet. But, Terrence Jay.

Love and respect. Thank you, bro. Appreciate you. It's good to see you, baby. Always a pleasure. Yes, sir. Where's Ocho? Okay.

I know he got that little weak bladder. Mm-hmm. I am. All right. Yeah. Good morning, people. How you going, Queen? Yeah.

Oh, what a beautiful thing. So now we gonna find out what they actually do in that situation. Oh, we already know. We get to watch the whole thing out. Yeah. Yeah. Anybody that ain't right mind. We know what's going on. I guess you have to get in the front, Jordan.

Oh, appreciate that. I appreciate you know, I got some special stuff in them. Yeah. You're gonna pop? Yeah. Ocho don't got a pop. Nah, we don't get pop. Listen, we're not gonna get pop simply because of them. I'm the cheapest one out of all of us.

Joe live in the property. Chill out. Chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill, chill. And I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, we're living like that. We ain't living like that. Okay. How police officers live?

I mean, or take. Uh, uh, uh, I think, you know, what's a good police selling? $150,000 a year? Yeah. Okay. $150,000 a year. I'm living way below that.

So, with, with, with, we're five, we're five me on you in cash. Right. You got to go stash somewhere, because you can't go put that in the bank. I know to put it. Where you're going to put it? I'm going to have dogs, right? Both you all got dogs, right? Yeah. They be outside or inside? A little bit of both. Okay, do they have somewhere they sit when they

outside, lay down? They'll be all over the place. No, I'm just saying. So you've got no kennel outside. No. No. No. Baring the money up with a dog sleep outside. Under the dog house. It's got a, it's ain't going to be at my property because that's the first thing they're going to come dig it up.

Where you go? Where are you going? gonna keep yours in? I can't tell you that, Joe. Come on, man. You think about where I keep it at. Ain't know tell it. See, we already got conflicts already.

I don't really know what's going on. You know what I mean? I just say, look, I don't want to know where you keep your money. I got to wash my back. Make sure nobody. See, we can't operate like that. We can't be keeping none from each other now. Yes, we can.

If we're stealing 20 million, now they got to be some type of trust. We ain't stealing 20. We're still in 15. See, there you go. That's what I'm talking about, Joe. That's what I'm talking about. See, I'm going to take you both of y'all out. I'm taking both of y'all now.

Joe, I just think we ought to lead the money. And hopefully we come across some more money at a later day, Tide. No, no, no, no, no. We can't lead that. We get an opportunity of a lifetime, and we don't ran across this money. We just need Ocho to do right. He ain't. Why ain't got to be me to do right?

Y'all need to do right. But in no other time. You take advantage of an opportunity like that. Well, okay. I just. God's sending it. God's sending you a message. And then you go ignore it.

See, we know you're going to go start buying all of chrome hearts and all that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm the cheap one out the group. No, you're not. No. I'm the cheap one. Because, you know, you got to put that shit on.

You know how you go. I got to put it on, yeah. You know what I got to put it on. Yeah, yeah. We got to know. I got to be cold with the big. I got to be cold. You know, I got to be me.

Come on, Ocho. Nah. Nah. No. Boy got on then got him a whole new set of frames. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I see how you come. I already know what going on.

Listen, I mean, everybody knows that's not me. That's you. Listen, I'm a minimalist. Everything I do, I do in a simple fashion. Now, I can't help that when I put it on, it looks a certain way. See, that's the problem. Okay, I appreciate that.

It looks like I done something, but it's just me, it's my aura, it's the way I carry myself. See, when I walk, most people start with their right, but I start with my left. Oh, okay. You see the difference? Okay. Yes, sir? I just don't want to have to look over my shoulder there five minutes,

knowing I've done a little dirt with y'all? with y'all yeah it ain't me you got to worry about me yeah we do we actually you got about you actually that's the only one I'm worried about hey so you know I'm I'm I'm closed lip over here surede how you doing what you're gonna be out of a sudden you can't talk you talk the third most in here behind Ocho and I and now you ain't got nothing to say I'm a rip-world premiere. Hello. Hello.

You guys are watching the Carson. Man. Jayana Taylor. Cajet. Yes. I'm living. You know what? You know, we're going to include you, Jade.

We come into this room a 20 million. Me, you, Joe, and Ocho. Okay. How much we take it? I can't do it. Chade can't be with her. Nah, Chade. Chade.

No, hell, no. No, hell, no. Why not? They're going to be on our ad. Uh-huh. Don't listen. I don't have to kill them to. See what I'm talking about?

We're going to have to knock them two off. Say what I'm talking about? Nobody ever five. Hey, we had this conversation. You got to leave something. Why? Because it looks great. Oh, bad.

These four officers, the integrity. Do you know what it took for these officers to see this money and to turn it in? And we stand there. They're going to give us a medal. They're going to give us a medal. What are we going to do with that? That metal ain't paying no bills? We got $5 million.

That's the one we want. Because guess what? That's what we... That's what we want. We got... Our day. No, I ain't going to say nothing. You're not going to say nothing.

No. The community ain't going to know nothing about this money. I got to want... I want to know who got good poker faces, who ain't going to crack under pressure. Like, all that's going to come into account. Yeah, absolutely. Well, you already know, they're greedy. We're not greedy. We just understand that this situation. You don't need that kind of money on the table.

Yes, you do. You lead that kind of money on the table. Okay. Okay. How you said it is when you go on the field, you don't know. No, no. But I'm trying to win. You're putting it all out there. You don't say like, oh, I'm going to leave a little bit for me and I'm going to live the rest on the field. Well, the thing is that you don't really try to hold a guy and throw the guy down because you'll get a flag. But if I give him a little tug, they might live. let me go with that. If I throw the guy down, they're going to throw a penalty. So tell me what you're going to do with your $5 million.

But you're a police officer with $5 million. They don't know you got it. What you plan on doing with again? So that's what police officers do, huh? Okay. You're going to jail. Yeah, we're going to. Let me tell you what else you root. Right. The job don't define you. Let me tell you what else you rooted in. The penitentiary. Yeah. And we are. going down they catch Shairee I see her right now oh Joe Joe yeah yeah here's McDonald's going through the draft and nothing gonna change they're gonna go

get you nowhere shoday not shoddy in cold she gonna snitch on us yeah oh why would I do that you putting your money in the community I'm like Shairee where you getting that money from I just I'm changing my number y'all can't call me because I already know y'all got to sit up I know y'all wired and so we y'all call me Joe I'm changing my number Well, we're feeling to see what's about to go down. There you go. I got you. I got you.

Oh, sure. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Wait to see it. So I'm going to walk them first and they're pregnant. So I'm going to have you guys do your solos first. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Huh? Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. All right. Excuse me? Man, look at all that money. There's $20 million right there. What's that, bro? Thank you, very nice to meet you, bro.

Thank you. Y'all ain't gonna know what to do it. Y'all ain't gonna do with that. Huh? Yeah, yeah, we're taking some good. Cazmello. We're just going to something in the bruce. I'll check y'all.

I'll check y'all. Yeah, yeah. You can't even imagine having that type of money, cold cash. 20-be. What are you going to do? do it there in the flesh not doing anything with Charday and Ocho that's what I'm not going to do me and Chad on the same page you don't need you to do y'all oh man this shit gonna be nice

this shit is fired yeah I see that's good of a room was your guy side out I see that Let's go. I'm through you all. Okay. So, here's a lot. Okay. So, babe. Yeah.

You're gonna do solo. You gotta come. You gotta go. Bring your bed, I think. Waiting for you. I'm the captain. I'm like, yo. Because every time you come up,

I'm like, every fucking story. Every time we're talking about, yo, who's the top, fucking, yeah. It's like, yo, bro, Joe, Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.

Let this shit up here. Right, yeah. All the time. I love watching out shit, boy. A player. Have you broken down four kids, man? Highlight, bro. That nigga, look, when I was a rookie dog, he used to fuck with me so much.

He used to, like, you know, haze me so much so to have that moment on his ass, hell yeah. Oh, that shit is a play ever. That's up there. That's up there. Every top 20, top 10, top five. Man, bro. I hated most of that. money with you.

I'm like, somebody got that gas. Somebody got that gas. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. I'm excited, too. I've seen the trailer on this. I'm going to be crazy.

It's going to be crazy. But yeah, I'm happy to be a part of it. Where you want me at? Okay. Then right here? Yes. Oh, Zip it, all right. Where I'm at?

Right on the money. You're on your tip-toe? Cold cash. Gerey get them... Goer and get them toes. Wow. Yeah. Yeah.

We don't walk through the room. I'm talking about... This is literally 20 million. Ooh, shit. I'm gonna be like this here. This fake money? That shit looks real. This right here in her hair?

That's right here. That's real, that, Ocho. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Is that real? No. Hell no. Oh yeah, there ain't no muscle paper. So what I'm from everybody, you do?

Yeah. Like we at the strip club with them ballet dancer be at Ocho. How you do it with them? I ain't throwing nothing. I'm keeping everything. Hands. Oh, you're like, you've done that before. You got some experience with that.

But I say he didn't done that before. I keep this one for myself. Think about it. This is actually. $20 million in cash. Now, three people, me, Ocho and Joe, we can easily take $5 million apiece, leave $5 million.

Everybody's happy. But no, not this one. We need to take it all. It's going to be at least one person out of the group you're going to have to worry about. They're just how it go. That's just how I go. We know what it is.

Joe. I've just let us know. We might have to knock that joke off. Yeah, for sure. I just go ahead and make it. peace with the decision that I'm going to have to make. It is what it is. Huh? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, see? I might, hey, why in town might be taking 15 hold and turn it. I don't know what they're going to win you. Guys, we really want to thank you guys for joining Ocho and I and Joe. And Joe, the grand premiere of the RIP, starring Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, hey, 20 million.

The question is, if you and a partner, three people walk into a room, this is 20 million in cash, how much do you keep? How much do you turn in? Tune in to find out the RIP. Oh, Joe, we out. Peace.

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