Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - 49ers survive Packers, Lamar goes off vs. Texans, Shay Shay makes SNL

Episode Date: January 21, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers getting by the Green Bay Packers in the NFC Divisional Round, Lamar Jackson doing MVP things as the Baltimore Ravens beat CJ Stroud and the Houston Texans in the AFC, Antonio Pierce being named head coach of Las Vegas Raiders, Club Shay Shay getting parodied on SNL, Nikki Haley saying America "has never been a racist country," CeeDee Lamb's mom causing a stir, and much more! 4:15 - 49ers survive Packers 17:00 - Ravens handle Texans 36:15 - SNL parodied Club Shay Shay 56:15 - CeeDee's mom makes headlines 1:12:45 - Antonio Pierce hired as Raiders HC 1:31:00 - Unc makes a promise to Lamar & more! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Club #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, let's not waste any more time. The 49ers survive a scare and beat the Packers 24-21. Heading into night, the 49ers was 0-30 under Kyle Shanahan when trailing by seven or more points in the fourth quarter. Not a bad time to end the streak. What did you take away from the game, Ocho? I really enjoyed the game. I really enjoyed the game.

I liked the way Jordan Love played. I liked the way the receivers played. Aaron Jones played a very, very good game. I really enjoyed the game. I like the way Jordan Love played. I like the way the receivers played. Aaron Jones played a very, very good game. The 49ers the 49ers rock Purdy and I almost say Ed McCaffrey I'm going to say

Ed McCaffrey. Yeah. Christian McCaffrey 17 carries 98 yards, two TDs George Kittle was effective as Christian McCaffrey, 17 carries, 98 yards, two TDs. George Kittle was effective as well in the past game. Debo Samuels, he went out. I think the game would have opened up a little bit more for the 49ers. I don't think it would have been as close as it was if they had Debo Samuels healthy. I think young brother has to learn to make business decisions and stop trying to be tough all the time.

You don't have to do so much all the time it's okay to go down um other than that they squeeze one out they squeeze one out and i think barring the weather barring the weather i'm not saying it played a factor in why they did lose but i think barring the weather i think there would have been a pick six in that first half that Savage that Savage would have had on Brock Purdy that would have put that game out of reach damn near almost and I think it was a field goal that the Packers also missed that would have that would have been 10 points right there on the board and they would have they would have won this game well I look at it I've told you time and time again you kick field goals you lose games yeah score touchdowns you win championships right look at Green Bay last week, what they did when they got into the red zone. Touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. Look at what they did this week. They turned the ball over on downs once, and they settled for field goals. That's the difference in the ballgame. Even with those plays notwithstanding, Ocho, let's just say Savage does not catch the ball, which he didn't. Let's just say they doesn't miss that field goal.

They leave 21 points on the field. Right, right. So that's the difference in the ball game. Kicking field goals, especially come playoff time, will get you beat. Scoring touchdowns wins you games, wins you championships. I like what Kyle Shanahan did. He took the ball out of

Purdy's hand in the second half, especially in the fourth quarter, and handed the ball off to Christian McCaffrey. You could tell the pressure was starting to get to him because he started to aim in the ball. Jennings climbed the ladder over the middle and made a hell of a catch. Brandon Aiyuk took one off his

shoe tops in the rain. They were making outstanding catches because he started to feel it. And I've said this before having played in games like this ocho when you're the overwhelming favorite right the longer the team that you're supposed to beat stays in the game the more you start to feel like damn they ain't going away yet yeah why they still playing so hard didn't they get the memo we're the number one seed yeah we're supposed to be up by 10 14 points at this point in time and you start and all of a

sudden they start getting more confident confidence yeah those young receivers from the packers there's something to behold oh yeah they're only going to get better because the lion's share of those guys are first and second year players right give the 49ers credit they did what they needed to do i think jordan love uh he took some unnecessary risk. I don't think, I mean, hell, it seemed like if Greenlaw didn't pick it, the other, what's the guy, the linebacker, a Warner. He was going to pick it. Yeah, if he didn't pick it, Fred was going to pick it. But the first interception, he had the guy wide open.

He threw it late and behind him. So the guy tips it, caroms, and Greenlaw picks it. Yeah. But Green Bay is probably not going to watch the film. late and behind him. So the guy tips it, caroms, and Greenlaw picks it. But those, they're going to, Green Bay is going to, probably not going to watch the film. You normally don't watch film the last game of the season.

Right. But the coaches are going to kick themselves, Ocho. Because the Green Bay Packers could have easily won this ball game. Yeah, most definitely. And the difference is, they settled for field goals early.

Last week, they scored touchdowns and put the Cowboys away. Today, the 49ers made themselves a field goal, and it was able to come back and win the ballgame 24-21. But give the Packers credit. They're going to be back. They're going to be back.

They're young. They got guys under contract. That receiving core is under contract for a long period of time. They're going to probably look to do something with Jordan Love, tie him up for the next five or six years. You got to. You oh yeah you got you got to get it out the way he had a phenomenal season he came on they they had a rough patch you know somewhere in the middle of the season yes but once they got into their groove and once they got going and jordan love confidence started to kick in man he was money he was money from that point on. Even tonight, outside of the two turnovers, he was efficient tonight.

Yeah, he threw some good balls tonight. Like I said, there's a couple of them you can't. Sometimes it's okay to throw from a level platform. Right, right. You don't have to jump and throw everything. Everything doesn't have to be up your back foot. Everything doesn't have to be a heroic throw. And I think you have to pick and throw everything everything doesn't have to be up your back foot everything doesn't have to be a heroic throw and i think you have to learn pick and choose those because the one he the first pick threw that on his back foot also it's almost look like he's trying to throw a

no look yeah it's the fact that he has the arm strength the fact that he has the arm strength and he can get away with certain things you know from a mechanic standpoint as far as arm angles and what he can do now the bad mechanics of where my arm is strong enough. I don't even have to set my feet to throw the ball. And sometimes that can creep in and hurt you. And you already know you throw the ball late and behind somebody over the middle of the field. They're going to get a hand on it.

Yeah. And it's going to pop it up in the air and here come everybody to the party rally. Yeah. And it's going to end up like what happened. Green law ends up picking it off. But I thought the green, I thought the Packers acqu. Yeah. And it's going to end up like what happened. Greenlaw ends up picking it off. But I thought the Packers acquitted themselves well.

It also lets you know last week wasn't a fluke because we've seen sometimes, Ocho, teams beat somebody that you didn't think they were going to beat. Right. And then they come out

the following week and don't play nearly as well as they played the previous week. Right. The Green Bay Packers are legit. I expect them to be back in the very near future. Next year, add a few pieces. But they're legit.

I mean, offensively, with the skill position players that they have, the wide receiver position, the tight end with Kraft and Musgrave, Aaron Jones, Dillon didn't play tonight, but I think the running back was Simpson. Wilson, excuse me, not Wilson. Excuse me, not Simpson, Wilson. I like their running back and Dobbs and Reed and Milton. Those guys, Christian Watson wasn't that active tonight,

but they got a nice young nucleus. Yeah. And the Packers are legit. That quarterback is legit. Yeah, they're going to young nucleus. Yeah. And the Packers, the Packers are legit. That quarterback is legit. Yeah. They, they, they,

they, they're going to be the real deal. Obviously that receiving core, I think it would be their identity. Obviously from my offensive standpoint, that is their identity. Once they get Christian Watson to fix the issues that he's having with his hamstrings,

that caused him to miss so many games throughout the, throughout the season. And then obviously Romeo Dobbs, man, he's the real deal. Yeah. Romeo Dobbs is the real deal. He's a route run extraordinaire. Yeah. You see those routes he be running?

Hey, he said that by, hey, he's stopping on the die and getting everybody in the 9-6. Getting in and out. The funny thing about it is he reminds me of Devontae Adams. Yes. There are not very many times a receiver of that caliber goes to another team and you have someone replace him with the same type of DNA in him. He got that same type of wiggle, that same type of ability to create separation

and do different things that others really can't. He's a special receiver. And he was exciting to watch. He was exciting to watch. The question is defensively, I like what they have defensively. The question is Jai Alexander, what they have defensively the question is jai alexander what are they going to do with him ah you know they had a situation where it seemed like he wanted to be there then he didn't want to be there right so they're going to have to get that

situation resolved uh uh gunakins the general manager uh and so it's going to be very interesting to see but i like the packers the quarterback you're set at quarterback you're set at the skill positions um bring in a few extra pieces maybe a offensive offensive lineman right because you know you didn't have probably one of your best offensive linemen in bakhtiari you didn't have him all year now i'm not gonna put is his knee that bad i'm just asking is it going in it they done gone in it several times so the likelihood likelihood, if I'm the Packers, I'm not counting on him to come back, although it would be a great welcome addition if he were to come back. But he's had three or four surgeries on that torn ACL, tried to come back, and they've gone into it again.

So I'm not counting on Bakhtiar to come back. It would be a welcome addition if he were to come back. But the Packers are set. The Packers have everything they need to contend. Now, you see the NFC, the Lions, they're not going anywhere either. No. You look at the 49ers. They're core guys.

They're not going anywhere either. Right. Tampa, excuse me, they like Baker Mayfield Baker Mayfield has acquitted himself well he's played himself into a nice contract right so he does get extended then oh yeah yeah well he was a free he only signed a one-year deal if I'm not mistaken okay that's right so yeah yeah obviously one question I mean you know we always talk about we always talk about the numbers so is baker mayfield one of those four year getting 30 million a year type quarterback he go 40 you daniel jones see the thing is the floor is daniel jones 40 million that's the floor you see that's the floor yes baker mayfield is better than daniel

jones yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. You're right. You're right. So the floor is 40 million. God damn. Yes, that's the floor. And then you think of the situation and the circumstance similar to that of the New York Giants.

There was nobody else. So you didn't have a choice. You didn't have a choice but the pen because you had no other answer at the quarterback position. I think for the Bucs, the way Baker has played, obviously with them winning division, they went nine and eight.

I mean, the division in itself, it really wasn't that good. Not that good. But what Baker was able to do and getting them back to the playoffs after Brady being gone, I mean, it speaks for something. Yes.

And now the question is, what are they going to do with Mike Evans? Mike Evans is a free agent. Are they going to franchise him? Are they going to extend him, give him a long-term deal? That remains to be seen. Why would you wait? There's nothing to wait for. They already waited.

I mean, obviously, you know how this business goes. You hit 10 years, you know, thousands of yard seasons all 10 years in a row. But all of a sudden now it's time to pay him based on the production that he's that he's done. He's consistent. You know, you want I mean, obviously, as a receiver, you want to end your career with the team that you that you've always been with. But rarely does that happen. Rarely does it happen. And he ain't taking a home team discount. We're not doing that. I mean, this game was really close tonight ocho green bay had 21st downs 49ers had 19 first down uh the pack

was 7 to 13 which is very good on third down 49ers was 10 or 16 330 total yards to 356 yeah 62 offensive plays for the packers 64 for the 49ers 30 minutes a little over 30 minutes time of possession a little under a little under 30 minutes time of possession for the 49ers so when you look at the stats the difference was one team when they got the ball into the red zone they scored touchdown the other team when they got the ball into the red zone field goals yeah one team is moving on the other team is going home. So that explains why, what you saw.

So the 49ers, Survivor Scare, beat the Packers 24-21. The 49ers advanced to the NFC Championship game to be played on their home field next week. They take on the winner

of the Detroit Lions or the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They'll take on that winner. Who you got? Who you got? The Lions look good, man. They look good. I mean, I kind of want the Lions.

You talking about tomorrow? Yeah, yeah. You talking about the Lions. Lions, Bucs. Who you got? Man, look. I want A.G., Aaron Glenn, the D coordinator for the Lions. I'm going to take the Lions.

I think the Lions are going to do it. Okay. I think the Lions are going to do it. That Bucs defense is nice, man. They're nice. But, man, the Lions have so many weapons. We'll get to that game in a minute. Okay, okay.

The Ravens handled the Texans 34-10. The Ravens looked like the top seed. Not the first two quarters. Halftime was a 10-10 ball game. But they came out the second half and they dominated. Lamar Jackson was 16 of 22, 152 passing yards, 100 rush yards.

He became the fifth player in NFL history to record two touchdown passes and two rushing touchdowns in the same playoff game. So, the Ravens look good So the Ravens look good. The Ravens look good. And it forced – look, the Texans came in with a game plan. We're going to heat Lamar up.

But whatever they came in, give Todd Monkey, the offensive coordinator, credit because he had the plan. Whatever they came with, he was ready. They brought the blitz and they sneak heel out the same side the blitz come. Lamar would dump it to him they go one way here come lamar coming out the back side lamar was like okay one two three nobody's open he's gone i'm gone yeah no indecision he was decisive he was determined and everything a guys may play zay flowers may play bateman odell didn't get a whole lot of opportunities but every opportunity that came to him he made the play give those guys credit uh like likely was unbelievable jumping up uh snagging that ball uh the ravens look like the top seed in the afc yeah most

definitely most definitely i mean the ravens look good but i want to give cj shroud his credit i want to give cj cj his credit i want to give cj cj stroud his credit and i know you're gonna see this boy you need to take a bow you need to take a bow for what you did during the season and you need to take a bow for the day even with the pressures that you had to deal with today obviously this is the number one defense in nfl they are very difficult to deal with very difficult to deal with, very difficult to deal with. You were never able to get comfortable. You're never able to set into your throws. The running game was non-existent. And one of the things I'm not sure why they didn't do is because the pressure was getting to you because the long

throws that they're used to having, he was never able to step up in the pocket and make the throws that he normally does he was always on the run always having to make a play using his legs i'm not sure why they didn't go to the quick game i think going to the quick game to nullify the pressures that they were using that the ravens were using would it help a little bit more until you get until you get the running game going a little bit they were never able to get in rhythm offensively then then the penalties the penalties the first half was great the penalties killed drives for them put them in third and longs second and 20 second and 21 so it made it made things that much more difficult and then you know

once it got to the second half it was just it was overwhelming it was overwhelming at that at that point and um there was there was nothing they could do man that Ravens defense went crazy and you know once once Lamar scored once once it once it was 17 10 yeah after that at after that they all they exhaled and it was over it was a it was a wrap from there and that's the thing that the Ravens have the Ravens have a gear that they can get to that very few teams can get to right they can step on the gas they had over 200 plus yards running the football they led the nfl in rushing we know what they represent running the football you factor in lamar jackson and you got hill you got gus edwards even dalvin cook came in there and mop up time and had a nice run yeah but this was all about lamar jackson yeah he

controlled the game from start to finish he didn't put the ball in harm's way and. And that's the only thing I really feel that could derail the Ravens. If that he were to put the ball in harm's way. Clean game. Clean. Not even a hint of a turnover. And he made all the big time throws. And we know what he is with his legs. He's dynamic.

He's dynastic. There have been very few guys in the history of the game that could run the ball like he can and he when he runs the ball is like steph curry hitting a three it's so deflating that's a good one it's so deflating oh joe because we got him we got him damn we don't got him he got 20 yards what he got you had him for a five yard loss but now he has a 20 yard and he's doing a great job now of knowing when the journey is over. And he was talking about with Debo sometimes. Yeah. You got to make a business decision.

You ain't got to prove you're tough anymore. And that's what Lamar is doing a great job of. He's getting down, not taking those unnecessary hits. Because over the course of a game, over the course of a season, those start to take their toll. But I thought Lamar Jackson was fabulous tonight. 16 to 22, 152 yards. Not the Goddest stats as far as 300 yards passing,

but he didn't need that. You look at what they did on the ground. He had 11 for 100. Justin Hill had 13 for 66. Gus Edwards had 10 for 40. And Dalvin Cook came in late in the ballgame and had eight for 23. So they were well, well over 160, 206. So they almost hit 230 yards running the football.

Well, when you run the ball for 230 yards, that means you're going to eat up time of possession. Guess what they had? Almost 38 minutes time of possession. And that's the problem that you have when you face the Ravens. If they get you down, good luck the ravens yeah if they get you down good luck good luck coming if they get you down 10 14 points because they can shorten the game by running the air out of the football that's right and you know what they're gonna do

defensively they're gonna blitz you they're gonna pin their ears back and it's gonna be a long night especially if you can't run the ball if you can't run the ball and you can't throw the ball because they make it stride uncomfortable. The penalties, the defense, the line was playing so well. They had, if I'm not mistaken, correct me if I'm wrong, if somebody checks this, last week I think they might have had three penalties for what, 27 yards. This game, this game I think they had, what was it?

11 penalties for 70 yards 70 11 for 70 and the ravens were 3 for 15 yeah yeah you it's hard to win games like that especially when you're playing against a team like that you need as many advantages as you can yeah penalties hurt them very very bad really messing up drives yeah the only the only thing i will say is the ravens were 4 for 12 on third down. Yeah. That won't get it done next week against either team, Buffalo or Kansas City. Now, that was the Houston Texans, a rookie quarterback.

They did well. Because if you look at Ocho, it wasn't like guys were open. It wasn't nobody's open. I mean, the first pass he threw got batted it down. I mean, the Ravens almost like we know exactly what y'all want to do and we're going to take that away. Because they were locked in.

They were coming. They were sudden. They were decisive. John Harbaugh could not have asked for a better game from his team than what he got today. On both sides of the ball. On both sides of the ball. Lamar was sensational.

Like I said, 4-12. I mean, you had 12 third down opportunities. You'd like to be somewhere 6-12. 6-12, and who knows, the game gets out of hand. But when you win the game like they won the game as decisively decisively as they did yeah man they look good the ravens look really really good and uh you like okay no matter who comes out of that game buffalo or kansas city you got your work cut out going to m&t stadium oh yeah oh yeah you got your work cut out i don't care who it is josh allen uh patrick

mahomes it does not matter if they play like that if they don't care who it is. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, it does not matter. If they play like that, if they don't turn the ball over, I feel to go into Baltimore and to beat the Ravens, you're going to have to force them to turn the ball over. I don't believe you can have Lamar play a clean game and beat him in his backyard. I don't believe you can do it. No, and what they're going to do defensively as far as confusing

and adding pressure, trying to make Josh Allen uncomfortable, depending on who it is, or Patrick Holmes uncomfortable, and get him off his spot, get him running. Obviously, they're going to play. Physicality is their specialty. Everybody plays football a certain way, but something about the teams in the AFC North,

they play defense a little bit different. I don't even know how to explain it. I don't even know how to explain it. You would have how to explain it you know you would have to be in that atmosphere you'd have to be on that field and strap your helmet on and your chin strap and you'll know the goddamn difference you'll understand the difference it's physical you got to play physical because everybody prides themselves on like we're the toughest you know baltimore says we're the toughest pittsburgh say man bro y'all just got to this division right We've been running when it was the old AFC central. It wasn't always the North.

It used to be the AFC central. And the Texans were in that division. No, they weren't the Texans at the time. They were the Titans. The Titans used to be in that division. Right. Along with the Jags were also in that division. So Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Jacksonville, Tennessee, and the Ravens. We were also in that division so Cleveland Cincinnati Pittsburgh Jacksonville

Tennessee and the Ravens we were all in that division uh the AFC Central now all of a sudden they reconfigured it and you got four teams in each division and they call it the AFC North but they pride themselves on physicality we tried to make you do you know we when I was in Baltimore they tried to make you turn it down yeah Steelers tried to make you do, you know, when I was in Baltimore, they tried to make you turn it down. Steelers tried to make you turn it down. Yeah. Tennessee, you know Tennessee, how they pride themselves. Jeff Fisher, they feel they go, hey, we're a physical team,

and Coach Coughlin's team, they were tough, hard-nosed, just like his military background, you would think they would be. Entering today's game, Lamar Jackson was one for three in the playoffs. He's now heading to his first AFC championship game two more wins and you know what the guy that oh he was supposed to be a wide receiver oh he's a running back he's a running back yeah yeah two more wins he'll made man super bowl champ he'll made me oh he'll made me champ the same one that was available for teams you know in the offseason everybody said no we good we don't want it yeah okay even even listen i know i played for the bangles but even i understand how special he is i understand how dynamic he is

how if he was to come to your team how much he can change that offensive offensive franchise around a different and different type of individual cam newton was special michael vick was special but lamar jackson during his time right now is different he's different oh joe they're not look here them teams not been upset the apple cart bro they're not gonna do that. They not gonna do that. They not going against one of their own. Right. Oh, I see what you mean. No, bro.

They not finna do that, Ocho. I mean, hey. Even for a chance at holding that Lombardi? We gonna stick together. Now, we might disagree. We might not like one another. But when it comes down to it, we're going to ride for 32. It ain't nothing coming between the 32.

And so I'm not going to set that precedent. Right. Giving up that. No. Okay. I see you going with it. I see you going with it. I see you going.

Hey, you'd rather do that? You don't cut your nose to spite you? What's the saying? Cut your nose off to spite your face. Spite your face? Okay. And I'm glad. I'm glad because, look, obviously I got a special Ozzie Newsome,

who's the general manager. Ozzie. He still has an office there at the building, but, you know, Eric DaCosta kind of runs the day-to-day. His last pick was trading back into the first round, getting Lamar Jackson. Lamar, yeah. I mean, it's hard to say.

The man drafted his first two draft picks was Jonathan Ogden and Ray Lewis. Legends. And then he drafted Ed Reed. And then he drafted Terrell Suggs. And also defensive rookie of the year, Peter Boulware. Yeah. And now Lamar Jackson.

From Florida State, huh? Yeah, but yeah. Goddamn Peter Boulware. Yeah. Drafted Jam Jamal mm-hmm I mean so man I'm happy for him

and I'm happy for the Ravens like I said I only spent two years there but my two years there were great I made lifelong friends it was a great atmosphere

obviously I know Steve Bichotti he was the minority owner when I was there ended up taking over for Art Modell but I'm happy for Ozzie I'm happy for the Ravens and they got an opportunity to go back to a Super Bowl for a third time

and their young twins since they came into existence in 1996 so they have an opportunity with a win next week to go to their third Super Bowl in Yeah. And basically 25, 20, 27, 28 years. You know what I think? I hate I hate to I hate to look so far in advance. But because of the Ravens defense, I don't see whether Buffalo comes in there or whether Kansas City comes in there. I don't see them beating the boys, I don't see them beating them, boys.

I don't see him beating them. I don't think people understand. You know, people that watch the game of football understand it's all about matchups. It's all about matchups and personnel and how well does your defense match up against this offense? Even as high octane and high scoring as the Bills can be or the Chiefs can be. It's different when you're playing a team like that, that has that type of personnel to match up against you, especially being able to add pressures, blitzes,

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the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Yeah, I think the thing is, but here's the thing. It's like when teams had Jordan, they didn't matter where they went. They had Jordan. And when you have one of these quarterbacks, when you have a Josh Allen, when you have a Patrick Mahomes, it's kind of like Lamar Jackson.

You feel like you can go on the road in any environment, any condition, and win and get it done. All they want is an opportunity. We'll cross whatever bridge we have to cross, whatever that defense might throw at us, and because we know yeah and so all they want is an opportunity it's like okay we'll cross whatever bridge we have to cross whatever that defense might throw at us and because we know the Ravens they're known for defense they've always been like that from the Rays and the Suggs and the Airy to now they got Roe and Quinn and all those guys Hamilton has been unbelievable on the back end at

safety congratulations all first team all pro they if Ravens, you already know what they do. They're trying to knock your dick in the dirt. It's as simple as that. Every time they try to drop, they try to drop ink on your ass. That's how the Ravens hit. Look, the toughest man wins. And they pride themselves on being tough. That's a physicality that's been passed down from the time Ray Lewis

stepped in there and Suggs and all those guys Rod Wilson, Rob Burnett when they had Goose, Sam Adams, Rob Burnett Peter Boulware it's just always Suggs it's come all the way down when you, it's kind of like a Steelers defense when you put that black and gold on

and you play that side of the ball you know what's expected it's a part of your identity. You know what's expected. I mean, if you're a Steelers, you know DeSantis, you know Mean Joe, you know Lambert, Ham, Joe, excuse me,

Amel Blunt, Elsie Greenwood, Ernie Holmes. You know what they represent. Andy Russell, Donnie Schell. So, when you play for the Ravensvens you know what you're representing you're representing ray lewis and ed reed and all of those guys that came before you there's a standard you know you're like mike tommy talk about the standard is the standard when you play for the steelers yeah you play for the ravens and you play that side of the football, the standard is the standard. Yeah.

And it's already been set. So they've got defensive players of the years littered on that side of the ball. They got defensive rookie of the years littered on that side of the ball. So when you go into that building and it says play like a Raven, you already know what's expected of you. Nothing less will be tolerated or accepted.

I never forget. I told you what we call Steeler Week and Raven Week. Two chin straps. I never forget. Marvin Lewis, anytime we playing the Steelers or we playing the Ravens, the motto was it's a two chin strap game week because that's what you're going to need. By the time you get to the second quarter, third quarter, whatever chin strap game week because that's what you're gonna need by the time you get to

the second quarter third quarter whatever chishtrap you're wearing you're gonna need a new one yeah oh man they they spoofing me on saturday night live ocho who and then saturday night live they got me and the cat williams they got me oh it's on right now it's on right now? It's on right now. Yeah. Oh, man. Boy, you a boy Saturday Night Live. Boy, you big, bro. You might be quiet as cap.

You like you creeping into the A-list of Leonardo DiCaprio, Samuel Jackson realm now. Nah. Shit. I'm just co-host with Ocho. Nah, nah, nah, boy.

That's different, boy. You different, boy. You like you, you want to, you do you a list status now, boy,

that is, that is a Saturday night live. I wonder if my sister watching, she probably watching. I wonder if she wants, she ain't calling me. So she might be going to bed. She got to go to church in the morning.

Yeah. But, uh, I see people in the chat. Yeah. So they got you. Yeah, I guess so. I'm going to, I'm going to get, when I get off, I'm going to bed she got to go to church in the morning yeah but uh i see people in the chat yeah so they got you on yeah i guess so i'm gonna when i get off i'm gonna go i'm gonna i'm gonna catch it and see what's going on but uh yeah if think about all the teams all the teams that gonna go into the draft right and look for a quarterback and you could have had a guy that's 26 years old with an MVP that's won the division, that's taken

the team to the playoffs several times, and you could have had it. And your quarterback, and you would have had to worry about your quarterback. It's interesting to hear what you just said earlier about the 32 actually sticking together. Yeah.

You know, and rather... All 32 didn't need a quarterback, but there were 10 or 15 that we did. Yeah. If you got Patrick Mahomes, you got Josh Allen,

you got Joe Burrow or Herbert or something like that. Right, right, right. But Atlanta damn sure needed a quarterback. Yeah. I think they probably

believed in what they had, right? Just want to see it one more year. I know it. i know it i know it to me i don't know man it must be out of their mind well you see guess what now you got to go now you got look give me lamar jackson at least i know what i'm gonna get lamar is a proven commodity oh yeah i don't know the hell you're gonna get from these guys that you draft that out of college

yeah you're right just because they had a great, this is why everybody wants to go to the portal. At least if I get a guy at the portal, I get a guy that's already been in college. So I already know he's going to do what he needs to do as far as school works. And I know what type of player he is because I can go ahead and put him on tape. So I've seen him against other college players as opposed to a guy that's coming out of high school. I don't know. He ain't probably never been away from home i don't know how he's going to respond to going to class and all this other stuff and playing against guys that are on his level level right that's why guys go to

the portal where hell lamar jackson has already been in the nfl hell he's already won an mvp yeah so what the hell you well i don't know what lamar's going to do. You do know what he's going to do. He's already done it. Yeah. The funny thing they can't, what I like about what Lamar has done is he's transitioned being a pocket passer now. He's not run, he doesn't have the run first mentality because the supporting

cast that they have around him, he doesn't have to. Listen, if it's covered, he's going to go through his reads. He's going to hit one, two, and three. Sometimes if he has time time he'll come back to one to see if it's freed up and if it ain't there i'll holler at you he's taking off but you know what i love about him he's like i'm not tom brady i'm not peyton manning a lot of times we get guys that have legs and they all of a sudden forget that they got legs right and it says well i want to be this because i don't get the credit that the other guys damn that credit i win and see what they give you credit oh yeah at the end of the day that's what it comes down to so many times you

get caught up in peyton manning is peyton manning i guarantee you if peyton says hell i wish i could run like lamar jackson tom brady says i wish i could run like Lamar right right but they had to use what they had in order to get the most out of their God-given ability right Lamar Jackson God bless Lamar Jackson with a set of wheels that he didn't give a whole lot of people in the NFL period regardless of position right and he gave them the ability to throw the football. So now he blessed them with more than the average quarterback because he can run it and throw it. Yeah. Yeah.

And he's like, you know what? Y'all not fitting to pitch to me. Y'all not fitting to try to make me feel bad. Talk about, oh, Lamar running the football. Damn right I'm going to take off and run if ain't nobody open. I ain't fitting to sit back here and sit and duck. I got these wheels, and guess what? I done got smart now.

I ain't taking no extra punishment. I'm getting down down because all i gotta do is go into a slide if you hit me i'm gonna look at the referee and gonna get that flag on your ass yep and i ain't gonna feel bad either so hey stop crying stop looking for a flag oh you already know when i'm like when i go into a slide like i'm going to second base, you better not touch me. You better not touch me. Hey, that's going to be exciting. I'm excited for the games tomorrow. God damn.

Man, I can't believe Saturday Night Live spoofed your boy Ocho. The dude had a brown sweatsuit, had a brown tracksuit on just like I had. He had a cat with a big old necklace on, man. I sure hope my sister watch this live. You famous now, man. I don't think you... We talking about Saturday Night...

Saturday Night... You know what? You know what's the next step from Saturday Night Live? What? Boy, you might be hosting the Oscars. Oh.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm telling you. Like my boy Quakes. I got my dog name, Oscar. Once you hit Saturday Night Live, the next thing for you, the next step is the Oscars, the Emmys. You know, you bridging over and you crossing over

into that A-list type area and realm. Yeah. Man, Ocho, look, I mean, I watch some of these guys and now it's hard look, I mean, I watch some of these guys and now, it's hard because of what you get. It used to be when they come on, they have the award shows and these comedians. Right. Everybody's so uptight now, you can't

say this and you can't say that. They done kind of taken the fun out of it. You guys might as well come out there and say, hey, the nominees for best supporting actress or, you know, you can't even have fun. fun. Everybody all up Titan-ish. Come on, man. I mean, there are a few people

that will come out even at that level, you know, that are A-listers, that are comedians, that obviously host shows like that. You know, Ricky Gervais. How do you say his last name? Ricky Gervais. Oh, he don't care. He don't care. He's going to be controversial. He's going to give you what you want every time. I ain't going to be controversial don't care. He don't care. He's going to be controversial.

He's going to give you what you want. I ain't going to be controversial because I care. They ain't going to take our little show, Ocho. Listen, he got the complexion for the protection, so he can get away with that. He can get away with some of that. Hey, Dave Chappelle is a comedian. Dave isn't

one that would really do a hosting stick. But see, here's the thing. They can't take anything away from Dave because Dave is already showing what they had to offer. Right. Dave is saying, kiss my holly to Hollywood and kiss his ass. That first time. That first time. And with Africa.

You can't threaten someone with something they already don't care about. Right. Right. Right. And see, that was the thing. That was a mistake that I made with some of the women that I dated, Ocho. Right. Talk to me now. I was giving them things they already didn't care about.

Oh. Unbeknownst to me. I'm giving you something. I'm giving you more of what you didn't already appreciate. Right. So, if they don't appreciate it, you continue to give them more on your end. That's fool on me.

Or you, or you preach it. Well, you preaching a nightmare. Come on. So Dave Chappelle, you say, Oh Dave,

we're not going to cast you in a movie. Oh Dave. So, cause guess what? Dave Chappelle can put up a link and Hey, I got a show and I'm coming here. Yeah. It's sold out. Easy. So you can't. So you can't take something from someone. Right. They don't want. Mm hmm. So what? So a lot of people like get canceled.

Well, you know, hey, take me off TV. They take our little shows. OK, you two say we're not going have your right okay fine but see dave chappelle doesn't need that and so that's the luxury that he has yeah that not a whole lot of other people have yeah because what he what he had what he desires is not what you could offer him that's crazy. You know, it take a whole lot to get to that point, though. It take a whole lot. It take a whole lot.

And you got to be good at what you do. You got to be really good at what you do. Let me get nine figures. Let me get nine figures in my account, baby. I act a fool, too. Yeah, you right. That's what we call fuck you money yeah oh absolutely but no i would never i would i would never be for me like like i i i joke that but in all sincerity i'm never gonna you know say something demeaning

or derogatory yeah about someone's religion or race or anything like that i don't care how much money i got i'm gonna be respectful of people's race, religion, origin, you know, whatever the case may be. That's just the way I am. I respect everybody. You do your thing and what you do in your house. Yeah. Ain't got nothing to do with me. No food on my table. depending on where you at in the world, depending on where you work, whether it's sports, whether it's corporate, whether it's TV, you got to be careful.

And there are three things you don't play with. There are three things, baby, as long as you live that you don't play with because it's a never ending war between all three. Race, religion, and politics. Race, religion, and politics. It doesn't matter what your stand is. Whoever doesn't agree with you,

y'all can argue for hours, for days, for weeks, for months. Yep. Yep. And you would never come to a common ground ever. No,

no. That's, that's the sad part. I mean, when I hear Nikki Haley say, uh, America has never been, has never,

has, was never a racist country. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, stop. Say who said that? She never a racist country. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, stop. Say who said that?

That's what she said. Nikki Haley. She was trying to be, she was trying to be funny. No. So how you, how you trying to run for the highest seat and you're going to say something like that?

First of all, that automatically should disqualify you in general. How the hell I ain't know about that? That's to disqualify you in general just for you to have an audacity to say something like that and just ask Nicky why you change your name that's not your given name

remember your father he had to go to an HBCU because where you came from and that name you had you couldn't teach at no PWI you better stop playing Nicky we pull receipts here I see where you're talking about here i see what you're going i mean all you got to do okay let's just go back let's see uh we go back no race uh america has never been racist ask the native americans what they think

about that ask the blacks ask about the ask about the uh the japanese in the intermittent camp what they think about that betrayal of fears tears camp, what they think about that. Betrayal of peers. Tears. Ask them what they think about that. Yeah. Ask them about civil war. Ask them about segregation.

Ask them about reconstruction. I'm just saying, I mean, you can erase, they can try to erase all that they want. I mean, but they try and erase history. They try and erase history. They can try to erase all that. They won't check. I mean, but they try to erase history. They try and erase history. They definitely try. But for her to say something like that...

Yeah. It's just disrespectful. To say something like that when the history on it is so rich... I got to do this. And right... Right. Google is your friend.

Yeah. I'm not sure who prepped you before you even said that, but you need to fire them. Come on, man. Don't do that. Don't be insulting. But you have to that, but you need to fire them. Come on now. Don't do that. Don't be insulting. But you have to understand.

It's right in your face. And it's still prevalent today. It's still prevalent today. Ocho, you have to understand who you're trying to appeal to. The people that she's trying to appeal to agree with her. Come on now. There are certain people in our community that's trying to appeal and that's what i tell people sometimes you will try to appease a base that's never going to accept

you all they did all you do is just give them validation because they say see that black how he says oh he'll take on the black establishment he'll take on the black community yeah but like tim scott he up there with man he ought to be embarrassed he ought to be embarrassed right the stuff that he says and how they think bro to know what they say about you when they go home and they close them doors if you only knew right right they see when they go home and they close them doors. If you only knew. Right. They see you no different. They ain't make enough bleach. You couldn't go to Sammy's social doctor to make them think

of you any other way. But we're going to move on. Check this out. Check this out. Namarita. Huh. Namarita? Namarita. Huh? Namarita? Namarita. Nikki Haley is a full name.

Why you don't go by Namarita? Namarita. Namarata. Mm-hmm. But you better ask, but hold on. But you didn't have a problem. You didn't have no problem.

You didn't have no problem. Your daddy had no problem when he needed to get employment from an HBCU. Right. Oh, y'all was all kiki. Everything was all hunky-dory then. Why didn't you go get one of them jobs over there? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Lainey Ray asked, Shannon Ocho, if you were offered, would you ever host SNL? If so, how do you think you were offered, would you ever host SNL? If so, how do you think you would do? Would you crack up laughing during the skit? Probably. Yeah.

You know, if we host SNL, I think that would be a great duo. There have been some great athletes that have done it. There have been some great actors that have done it. Trav, Trav, Trav. Oh, Peyton Manning comes to mind? Yeah. Unbelievable. Crazy work.

Trav last year did it. Yeah. An. Crazy work. Trav last year did it. Yeah. An unbelievable job. Yeah, I think Drake did it as well. I think Drake did it, obviously, with his acting background. He was great. But I think we would fare pretty well and be high in the rankings. But I don't think Hayley's new mojo. To go back, Nikki Haley's last name wasn't Hayley.

She had like an Indian name. Wait, so she changed first and last? Yeah,'s last name wasn't Haley it was she had like an Indian name wait so she changed first and last yeah her last name was like it's like it's like an Indian name or I don't want to say I don't want to say the wrong thing right but uh Pakistani or something Haley was not her last name it was not her given name yeah Namarita R-A-N-D-H-A-W-A that don't say nothing about born in America

so Haley her husband's name was Haley, her husband's name was Haley. But damn, she dropped that thing quick. You don't have a choice. I mean, to get where you want to go, to get where you want to go, to be accepted in the rooms you want to be accepted in, there are certain maneuvers and tactics you have to do in order to make it happen. That's what I've been trying to tell people for the longest, Ocho. Listen, and I'm going to

stay with me because I'm going to give you a little history. You see, there were people that came over and they were able to drop their last name and get an American name. Now you tell me what I can drop to not be black. I can't change nothing about you. I can say Porter. I can say Kicklotter.

I can say Durrance. I can say Dasher. I can say dirt. I can say dasher. I can say Spielberg. But when you look at me, you still know what I'm black. So don't give me this, all this notion. Well, I don't see color. Yes, you do. And I think, I think Gerard Mayo summed it up best. You do see color.

You're not color blind. That's why when you pull it, when, when the light turned green, you take off. When it turned red, you stop. Just like at a stop sign. So if you colorblind, how do you know when to go when the light turn? The question is, it's not whether or not you see color. What do you do and what is your reaction to the stimuli once you see that color? Yeah.

People need to stop playing. Stop this notion. I don't see color. Yes, you do. Yeah. people need to stop playing stop this notion about I don't see color yes you do stop telling me first of all if you know how many black friends you got Ocho oh I gotta stop it because you see the plaque that's going

on and you pretend like you don't so in other words you don't have black friends you know black people there's a difference between the two yeah and I don't know how many I don't know how many Hispanic friends I got I don't know how many Asian friends I got I don't know how many, I don't know how many Hispanic friends I got. I don't know how many Asian friends I got. I don't know how many friends I got. I can't even count.

I don't even look at them like that. If you can count them, if you can count how many you got, then you ain't got enough. Yeah. Well, first of all, they're not cars.

They're not possession. They're not things that you're supposed to be able to count. Right. Right. You know what? Now that I think about it, I got four. I got four Asian friends.

Right. I got four Hispanic friends. Right. I got four Hispanic friends. I don't know. That's interesting. That's interesting. Would you ever go into politics? No, because you got to lie. Okay.

I want to see where you're going to go with it. No, you got to lie. You got to make promises that you can't keep. Yeah. That's a part of the game. That is.

And I couldn't lie to the game. That is. And I, and I, and I can't, I couldn't, I couldn't lie to the people. Yeah. Promise them some things and knowing that I'm not going to be able to deliver them. So I can't,

I can't do that. Right. So I want a better, better question for you. Obviously getting off topic just a little bit, tad little bit when it comes to president, president, presidential candidates,

uh, politicians, uh, those that are running for senate for office where they be small cities big cities and the people in the masses understanding that to win elections that is whoever tells the sweetest lie that makes you believe that you are actually in control of the outcome you're never in control you know there's certain things that that they tell us i'm i us. I don't

want to cause any controversy, but I'm just saying in general, whoever tells the sweetest lie normally wins. Let me see how I can fool the masses and make whatever I'm saying believable. The chance of me actually executing what I'm telling you just to get myself

in office? Probably not because everything is already set in stone. The people pulling the real trigger. Let me take my glasses off. The people that really run the world, that pull the triggers, that get the green lights on what goes and what's going to go and what's not going to go, what's going to pass and what's not going to pass. You can't even see them. Yeah. You can't even see them.

I mean, that's a whole nother story. I don't want to go there. that's a whole nother story i i don't want to i don't want to go there that's a whole nother story yeah you think but i mean i like that i look i i don't i don't want to be in politics because i don't i don't want to lie to the american people to get in there and i'm not going to be able to fulfill what i promised them i could be able to do right because i'm only one person um and then if you don't if you're not you gotta it's so it's just yeah it's just it's no i don't want to i don't want to do anything with politics uh so laney ray to answer your

question maybe i don't know what i would take it serious and so i wouldn't laugh uh but it's all dependent on how serious uh uh what the skits are. Right. Because, I mean, obviously someone is writing the jokes for you and hopefully they're going to let me, you know, write it in such a way that something that I would say. Yeah. Or how I would say it. But it would be an honor.

It's something I really haven't thought of. I haven't, I've never thought about being on Saturday Night Live, but obviously what an extreme honor that would be. Now you're going to say, I love it when you talk like that. Power to the people. Beware of chocolate teddy bear.

Thank you. Ocho. Yeah. I know you, did you see this? What? CD Mom, Lita Ramirez,

wrote on Facebook, Dak isn't it. I wish CD would leave. They need to get rid of Dak ass. It's guys on that team that want the ring. They work too hard. Dak don't want to win a ring.

Wait a minute. Not family. Family done got involved? Ocho. Ocho. You for real? Are you sure it was her? Yes. Ocho Ocho You for real? Are you sure it was her?

Yes She one hack? She said someone come in and tell the young'un to come home CJ would love him To which remember responder Ish I wish he would CJ is great Ocho

This is what, listen, this is what I tell people all the time. Even though it might not be true. Yeah. Anytime a family member or a friend or a loved one says something. Right. People will automatically assume

it came from said player. Even though that might not be true. Right. Right. I was very cautious. Now, I didn't really have to worry came from said player. Even though that might not be true. Right. Right. I was very cautious. Now, I didn't really have to worry about my sister. My sister don't really talk like that.

Right. But my mom and I, you know, hey, just remember, when you in the stands and you talk about that sorry, you know what, that mofo can't do this, that might be somebody's son you sit next to. That might be somebody's husband. this that might be somebody's son you sit next to that might be somebody's husband odell cleveland browns yes pops came out yes put a video yes okay i remember that that that that happens very seldom though yes it happens very seldom but when it does it makes noise

i'll tell you what it makes headlines i i didn't even hear about real say man let me hear real say man he bingo sorry that quarterback so new no good you know what she got that from mojo oh yeah oh yeah definitely definitely came definitely came from me but i think cd cd cd got to find a way to nip that nip that in the bud he ain't going too late oh joe oh joe let me ask you a question going to where oh joe we're in the courtroom you say something we're in the courtroom we're both lawyers my client says something right you stand up and says objection the judge said sustain how do you make the jury unhear what they heard right okay okay hey that's my mom speaking i don't speak my mom doesn't speak

for me i'm my own man how you gonna make cowboy fans how you gonna make jerry how you gonna make the world here unhear what they heard your mama say that mama talking that's gonna that's gonna catch head but was that the day was that the day day? It came out yesterday morning. I didn't hear about it. Oh, you know what? I was traveling. I was traveling. That's why I didn't know.

I was traveling yesterday. Okay. Okay. Well, that's crazy. Why was she there? I think she must be really upset. She was really upset. Hold on.

Michael, brother, Terrence Parsons Jr. tweeted, i can't wait because y'all really clueless out here laugh my you know what off the greatest crime to this man is being done by his own organization y'all gonna miss miss him when he's gone wait wait what are we falling apart over here now wait a minute dags brother tad prescott tweetedboy fans who continue to DM me, trust me, if I could get Dak to leave Dallas, I would. I want him out of Dallas. The city, the organization have been great to he and our family, but done with this drama and there is so-called fans,

but he loves this team and he wants to bring it a ring. I mean, I know you don't remember, but there used to be a show called Dallas with Jock Ewing on the Southport Ranch, and that's what we got right now. We got a drama going on. How did it even get to this point?

How did it even get to this point where we have parents, where we have siblings, where we have... How did we even get to this point? Because what did I tell you all year at the beginning of the year? Expectations. That's how you get to this point. Who is the reason for the expectations? What's the reason?

Who's the number one or the common denominator that has everybody in Dallas, the media, the players thinking with these types of expectations. Who? Well, you know,

Jared be selling, you know, Jared is a salesman and he'd been selling, he'd been selling to the cowboy. Listen, they, they are America's team and they've been believing this. And look, they were really good.

They were really good in the 70s. Had a little drop off. They were good. They were decent in the 80s. They didn't win the championship. But in the 90s, they took off again. But the 2000s and the 2010s, and here we are in the 2000s. I mean, the 2020s.

We can't continue to live off 30 years ago. We can't continue to live off of 30 years ago. They do do though. They do. Like I said, Ocho, you know how it is. Ocho, you know when somebody says something, Real says something about

something. Y'all talking. That's why you i told you i used to have my alignment all the time y'all pillow talking as you know what stop talking so much about what transpired at practice and what happened in the locker room oh pillow talking ass you know what yeah and you know you get hey guess what sharp said guess what bro and stop all that pillow talking but you know mama mama got to be a little bit more weary and understanding on what that can cause on the back end like it is now i'm surprised i i obviously i would have known if it hit the mainstream media so i didn't even

know uh dax brother there's certain things that you got to keep in house you got to keep stuff like that micah micah's brother there's certain that you got to keep in house. You got to keep stuff like that. Micah, Micah's brother. There's certain stuff you got to keep in house. If you feel a certain way, you can't say those things. When you get mad,

do you give a damn about the repercussions? You just mad right now. And I deal with the repercussions later. Oh, Joe. Okay. You know how this works. I know, but it's the,

it's the players. The players have to deal with that. The players have family members talking and now the players are going to get the brunt. That's like you get in trouble. You're out with your friends and you're the one that plays football and everybody get in the fight

and you don't do nothing, but who name hit the headlines? Yeah. You know, same thing. Yes. And that's, you know, I tell, look, I tell my mom, tell my sister, everybody, hey, Sterling and Shannon Sharp's sister. Yeah. Sterling and Shannon Sharp's mom.

Yeah. My kids. Hey, the first thing they're going to say, the son or the daughter of Shannon Sharp. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. I gave you, look, I gave you the last name. I gave you a great education. Yeah. Don i gave you the last name i gave you a great education yeah don't f up the last name i like that that's a good one that's a good one so but but that's that's that's the way it is yeah you just have to be mindful ojo yeah because everything that you say

if you're if you're a family member or a loved one or a significant other people are going to assume right what you're saying is coming from the individual on said team right right right right and that's just the way it wrote and we talk we talk about a mom too we talk about a mom so i i understand her sentiments as a father myself you know and but when i think about what cd has done for that organization and when i think about what cd has done this year, the type of season he's had, you know, the Brinks truck type of money he's getting ready to get. Oh yeah, for sure. You know, it's just the timing. He earned it. CD has earned it. He's gotten better and better. He's gotten better and better. And I remember you and I having a discussion. I say, Ocho,

I don't know. I say, I got him maybe top 10, but he's proved this year to be a top five receiver. Yeah, I remember that conversation. They all in the chat talking about it. I'm saying, I'm not comparing Josh Allen to Michael Jordan, but I'm saying when you have a certain

quarterback, be it Tom Brady, be it Peyton Manning, be it one of these quarterbacks, you feel you can go anywhere, anytime, in any conditions and win. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying Josh Allen was Michael Jordan. I'm not saying any of that, but you need to follow along.

I know, look, you guys take everything in its literal interpretation. I'm saying when you have these quarterbacks like that, I played with John Elway. It did not matter where we went. As long as I had him, I felt we were going to win the game. That's why we were able to go on the road and have our revenge tour. We went to Kansas City where we had lost.

I got John Elway. I got TD running the ball we go to pittsburgh we go to san diego at the time and play the packers when you have that guy and it's hard to explain unless you play the game and have one of those guys but i guarantee you everybody that's been on brady's team will tell you they didn't fear anything guys that's been on peyton manning team will tell you they didn't fear anything just like when i was on seven's team will tell you they didn't fear anything. Guys that's been on Peyton Manning's team will tell you they didn't fear anything. Just like when I was on Seven's team, I

go anywhere. Anywhere, anytime, in any condition. I don't give a damn if you got 110,000 fans or you got five. I got a quarterback, and I ain't hoping. I'm expecting to win. And that's when you got a Josh Allen, you got a Patrick Mah allen you got a patrick mahomes

you a lamar jackson you expect there's no longer hope well if i defensively outstanding if we can get a turnover remember we talked about the cowboys look at the cowboys offense when their defense don't get picked sixes and scooping scores look at their offense when the defense when their special teams don't put them on short fields you see the difference yeah when i tried to tell y'all that all year we winning i said okay but you're not looking see the thing is you're happy that you're winning and you're looking at touchdowns but you got to look at the untrained eye you got to look at the game within the game now what happened when they didn't get no turnovers from the Packers? They didn't get not one turnover from the Packers. How'd it look?

Nah, nah overtime, but we had a great year. We won the division. Look at the Eagles. They just like, no, no, no, no, no, no. That ain't what you was talking about. So, when you have these top level quarterbacks, you don't fear anything. You don't yeah you don't someone commented the dallas cowboys are the most successful in a fair entertainment franchise in the world

all the fans the emotion the drama truly make it a hit series every year they do no the cowboys move the needle unlike any other football team i mean they're look the yankees the lakers lakers the cowboys that's the they move the needle no matter what you think about them they move the needle yeah hell i wish after the cowboys lost i could call roger goodell say put the cowboys back in the playoffs so they can lose again and we break another record and put them back in the playoffs again and we just keep putting their ass in the playoffs even get to the

Super Bowl because if they got to the Super Bowl and lost we did 1.5 on Monday we'd do 10.5 yeah yeah it is what it is so yeah that's that's rough uh I feel bad that uh

that you know because CD's gonna have to answer those questions you know people gonna ask man CD what going on with your mom man you know what he gonna say man that's my mom I love my mom yeah my mom don't speak for me yeah there's nothing you can say and I don't even think you don't speak for me. There's nothing you can say.

I don't even think you can say that part, too. I don't think you can say my mom doesn't speak for me. You always have to back her no matter what. Hell nah, I came back on that one. If the situation was, I mean, I'm not saying not based on what you said, but you don't go against mama. You can't go against mama. That's my mom.

I love my mom. My mom said what she said, but my mom don't speak for me. That's what you got to say. Oh, I see what you mean. I see what you mean. Okay, I see what you mean.

Yeah. They're going to be all right though. They're going to be all right. You know, CD don't have that talk. Come on mama, you come on now. Come on baby,

you can't, you can't, don't do that. Don't do that. Hey mama, mama, go pick out a house and be quiet.

Matter of fact, go to the car lot, get something yeah yeah i tell barbara hey mama go get a house and go in the new car mama and stop talking as a matter of fact you your phone your the only phone number you'll be able to call is 9-1-1 and me you ain't gonna be able to call you ain't gonna be able to do anything else on your damn phone yeah because you get your baby in trouble yeah Yeah, that's dope, though. That's good. That's good.

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The Raiders hire Antonio Pierce as the head coach to remove the interim tag. And it seems former Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis is expected to join his staff. Marvin Lewis would probably be the D coordinator. No, they were together at Arizona State. Arizona State, yeah. With my son. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Marvin came on to help Hearn. Hearn was

the head coach. Hired AP as the linebacker coach. And then Marvin kind of oversees. So I don't know if Marvin wants to be like day-to-day, but I think he'd be like oversee. You know, have a set of eyes, set of ears

to really help him navigate his way through there yeah but i'm i'm happy for ap this is a job he earned it very very happy okay man basically the same team treat men like men yeah you don't have to mofo and and sob everybody and talk down and be and be derogatory and disrespectful just because you're in a position of authority yeah guys resonate with that and plus yeah he's able to to resonate yeah with the young with the that's what you gotta have yeah that's what you gotta have it may it may it makes sense it goes perfect the players love him hell you heard what goddamn mason crosby said listen max my bad to my mason crosby mac crop you heard you heard what goddamn Mason Crosby said. Listen. Max Crosby. My bad.

It's about Mason Crosby. Max Crosby. You heard what he said. But listen, man. If you don't hire the coach that we as players want, that we will run through a wall for, I'm going to ask for a trade. I'm going to ask for a trade. I like that.

You don't want to play with that. I love that. You don't want to lose your locker room before damn season starts in 2024. Yeah. By hiring somebody you want. I would hate to play against a guy like Max Crosby because that mofo don't stop. But he got a motor. Slow down.

He got a motor. He got a motor. From snap to whistle. Whistle. From four quarters. You already know. Yeah. You're going to get.

Hey, you got. You know what you're getting. You play. You play guys like him. You already know. You know what you get. You play guys like him, you already know. It's going to be a long day. A long ass day. It's going to be a long day. An Alaska day. You know them things. 24 hours.

Oh yeah. Yeah, man. You already know what you're going to get. He a hell raise. I love watching him play. F the Raiders though, but I love watching him play. F the Raiders, though, but I love watching him play. You a Bronco, we don't mess with the Raiders. Right. We got Raider week. We don't deal with them.

We tried to, like, let's just say Raider week come Bronco time. We had a little something for them. It's like that, huh? What? The Raiders? Yeah. I've never heard of y'all rivalry. Now, I understand the Saints, Falcons.

Oh, it's bad. Like, it's bad. It's really bad. You know, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals, Ravens. I understand Bengals, Browns. But Raiders, Broncos? First of all, the Steelers and the Ravens, we started that back in 2000. Me, trash-talking them.

That's what really got that thing jumped off. I started that. But, oh, yeah, the Raiders, because you have to understand, they both came in 1960 and was in the AFC West. So they were the original AFL. They were the original AFC West. Right. Kansas City, we don't feel

we don't like Kansas City either. But it's just something about the Raiders. They just nasty. Yeah. So, you know, they try to hurt you. So, you know, they try to send one or two of yours to the hospital. You try to send one or two of theirs to the morgue. That's the way it works. Damn. Hell yeah.

You think, oh, you think you're going to try to hurt one of our guys if we don't try to get your ass back? You say you're trying to send him to the morgue, huh? What kind of football y'all playing? Whatever they try to do to us, I try to do it to you. Whatever you do to me, I try to do back tenfold. Right.

It's like that. Yep, that's how it is. It's like that today. Y'all mofos nasty we gonna be nastier I like it what did you say you go low

I go lower hey they go low I go to the basement and hell if I find you in the basement I go to hell I'm going lower than you

yo you nothing oh now hell nah cause you get one of my guys hey we like you get one of my guys. Hey, you get one of my guys. Hey, man, such and such cheap shot. Who? Now, we got to head on him.

We got to get him. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. But, yeah, we got to get you back. Right. Yes. Oh, you definitely. Now, you know if you got 84.

Oh, I got to get you. Oh, it's on, huh? Oh, and if I don't get you, I'm going to get your teammate. Oh, man, what's that about? I said, oh, you got cheap shot me so hey oh well that's your teammate somebody getting got y'all have for the y'all not for the cheap shot me or my teammate and if they everything will be hey man good luck sharp okay well hold up was the ref throwing flags back then no i can get your ass back and make it look just like a block. Go look at the play.

Go look at the play. We play on a Monday night. We play the Tennessee Titans. Perry Phoenix hit me in my knee. I told her, I said, hey, I said, I'm gonna get your dirty ass back. I said before, I said, I'm gonna get you back now. Oh, you best believe I will get you back. Yeah. Man.

That's okay. Man, who was the quarterback? Was it Gerback? I think Gerback might have hit him on the pad. Elvis. Elvis Gerback. Yeah. And Q caught the ball on one side.

I ran across the right on the other side. Right. I motioned. I motioned to Q to come Q see me out the corner of his eye I said oh Ocho you lined him up

did I line him up did I get him yeah I almost sawed him in half right there in front of his bench he got a talking he got him talking shit? Talking what? He was looking at the ear holes right here.

Oh, I twisted him. I twisted him, Ocho. Literally, I tried to break him in half. Oh, I got his ass. Oh, yeah. It's one thing about the game of football, man. You got four quarters. Somebody do something to you. You got four quarters. Oh, yeah. It's one thing about the game of football, man. You got four quarters. Somebody do something to you.

You got four quarters. You never know when it's coming. You better get me at the end, and I can't get you back. But if you're in my division, if you're the Raiders, the Chiefs, the Chargers, or the Seahawks, oh, I'm going to get your ass back. Oh, I'm going to get you back. Don't worry about it. If I don't get you back, I'm going to get one of your teammates that game.

But I'm still going to get your ass back at a later date and time. TB, to be continued. You're not going to get no lick on me. The only person that ever got a lick on me, and I didn't get it back, excuse me, was Brian Cox. B Cox caught me slipping.

What? Boy, you had a problem with Brian? No. I used to work out with Brian Cox. B-Cox caught me slipping. What? Boy, you had a problem with Brian? Man, no. I used to work out with Brian. Boy, B, he crazy, boy. Man. Man, Brian greased you through an interception. Yeah.

And I turned. I took two steps. Yeah. And I was in the air. I said, B-Cox, you dirty mofo. Man, you dirty mother. Ooh. He said, my shop,, you dirty mofo. Man, you dirty mother. Ooh. He said, Sharp, how you doing with me? Because I said, you're the only dirty mofo out here.

I didn't even see him. Ma'am, I was straight out. Every time he see me, he said, Sharp, you know you ain't getting me back. I said, I know. I said, he the only one.

I didn't get back. Goddamn Brian Cox. Ah, man. Check this out. RG3 and Jay Gruden. They've been going at it, boy. RG3 and Jay Gruden. This all started during the Eagles-Bucks game when Jay Gruden tweeted,

if I ever put a quarterback through what Finley is putting Jalen through, I apologize. Pick up the blitz. RG3 tweeted back, say what? Jay Gruden replied, you weren't prepared, Robert. After some back and forth, Gruden said, you weren't good enough.

Kirk was better. Cleveland didn't want you. Baltimore didn't either. Quit blaming me. Gruden did tell RG3 to go race a pigeon. Wow! Hey, there are very few times that a coach will tell you how they really feel. Yes. That's how he really feels.

Yes. And now that Rg3 is not playing he's let them be known yes yeah i think that's he tried to delete that right that in that the tweet he tried to delete yeah but you know once screenshots whatever what you've seen i don't give a damn what you do it's a rap somebody's a rap's a wrap I mean that's just how he felt that's how he felt and that's those sentiments is how sometimes they feel about many of

the quarterbacks in that position Ocho you said you put a T on that you said felt that's how he feels you talking about felt that's past it felt me felt some type of way what about feel? Currently.

Right. That's nasty work. Yeah, man. That's nasty work. Yeah. But sometimes, you know, that's what it takes. That's what it takes to get someone to tell the truth. Tell me how you really feel.

Don't beat around the bush. Just be straight up the first time. Hell, if you felt that way, you could have told me back then. Right. You could have told me back then. It's okay. Ah, that's tough, man. That's tough. To me, it's kind of exciting.

They put Kirk Cousins in the game. What else do you need to see? What else do they need to tell you, Ocho? I see where you're going with that. I mean, your girlfriend said, Ocho, I don't want to be with you, Ocho. Yeah, you steal my girl, and then you steal walking down the street with another dude.

Why didn't you tell me? I told you I didn't want to be with you. So once they put the other quarterback in there, what are they telling you, Ocho? We don't want you okay oh yeah that's that's tough that's tough come on jay jay you need to apologize to rg3 please yeah i think can we all can we all be friends can we all get along no it's too late now yes yeah it's already out the damage is already done

yeah I like that a little entertainment little entertainment keep it spicy ain't that bad ain't that bad Ocho

my grandfather used to say boy there's two things you can never get back words spoken and deeds done I don't care what you say I'm sorry you already said it

my bad I didn't mean to do that it's already done remember that Ocho two things you can never get back. Word spoken and deeds done. Hold on now. Two things you can never get back.

Two things you can never get back. Word spoken and deeds done. I'm going to use that. I don't know how I'm going to use it on, but I got a book of quotes. I got a book of using, I'm gonna use that. I mean, I don't know how I'm using it on, but I got a book, a book of quotes. I'm a guy, a book of quotes. I'm a, I'm a sell this. I'm a sell this.

Look, I'm, I'm, I am surprised that he said this publicly put this in a public forum. I'm not, I'm sure Jay Gruden is not the first coach that, that had feelings felt feel some type of way about a player but a lot of times they take that to the grave you never know maybe you have to maybe that's a private conversation right and it's always had amongst them amongst themselves but based on how they feel it shows through the opportunities you get at the position or said position since we talked about the quarterback position they let you know through that through your play you know if you get bench

all right you know what it is they always have an excuse on why they're doing it and if your play isn't up to standard you already know what time it is but here's the thing Ocho he got the job because he said he knew how to use RG3. Because when you get the job, what's the first thing? You got to be able to work with the quarterback. Okay, RG3 was a quarterback. He was rookie of the year. Obviously in a situation that didn't work out with

Kyle and Mike. Mike and Kyle had wanted, because RG had never been a pocket quarterback he'd never really I don't think RG3 had ever been taking a snap from under center so you know to bring him along RG3 you know but he wanted to fast track and he wanted to be Peyton and and and Tom Brady so when they remove them you bringing coaches in okay what type of offense what are you gonna do with rg3 right and he probably told daniel snyder hey i got all these great ideas these great plans i'm gonna use

him like this this and this he'll be a pocket quarterback blah blah blah yeah that's that's the that's the wrong approach you take someone obviously that's special that one rookie of the year and you make a you build a system around him that works for him not a system that you want who in here watching tennis talking about sissy poss sissy who? sissy poss

what's that? he's a tennis player named sissy poss? yeah his last name is sissy poss stuff for those sissy poss I never heard that Named Sissy Posse? Yeah, his last name is Sissy Posse. I never heard of Sissy Posse. I never even heard that. You didn't? Sissy Posse?

Are you saying it the right way? I am absolutely saying his last name the right way. Yeah, but I'm surprised. And then the man told the man to go race a pigeon. Because you remember, I think RG3 was out in Seattle. He did. He raced a pigeon. He ran the halt.

Yeah. So he told a man to go race a pigeon. Hey, our RG3 response was funny. It wasn't a pigeon. And he went to the whole explanation. That was funny. Wow. Man, I'm just...

I'm surprised. I am surprised. I'm surprised. I am surprised. I'm surprised that. First of all. I'm surprised that I'm not surprised because Jay Gruden was like. Jay Gruden was like, OK, he was like he was showing support for Lamar. Right. As I said, stop all that damn scat protection

stop trying to get five out in the route bring the sixth man in leave the back end bring the extra tight end in yeah so they can stop hitting your quarterback or stop having him run for his life that's what i that's what i i i Bro, I'm looking at him like, damn, how much scat protection are you going to run when you can't pick it up? It doesn't do you any good, Ocho, to get five out if your quarterback ain't got

time to throw him the damn ball or he's running for his life. So what good is having five out on the route but your quarterback running for his life if you're getting hit in his mouth? So Jay Grew was like, hey, help the man out. And then RG3. You took another shot at him? I mean, look, man, look.

I can't say the type of relationship everybody had with their coaches because I don't know. But I've had great relationship with all my head coaches same same same never had a problem rest his soul the man would see me talk to me uh i mean i see him going to church i'd be going to work out because his church was right across the street from where i worked out at i would see him he'd come up talk to wife, Miss Pam, his family was always great to me. Wade Phillips, Brian Billick, obviously Mike, all my head coaches, all my position coaches.

I've always had great relationship with all of them. Les Steckle. Les Steckle still call me to this day. BP, Brian Periani, Wade Harmon, all my position coaches to this day still call me. Les Steckle was my position coach in 93 and 94. He knows every one of my kids' birthday. He'll call me every birthday for Kiari, Kayla, and Kaylee.

Every last one of them. He still text me, hey, he called me sweetheart. To this day, the of them. He still texts me, hey, he called me sweetheart. To this day, the man, I don't think the man ever called me, never called me my name.

He called me sweetheart. He's a sweetheart. I see you. I watch what you're doing. Blah, blah, blah. I love it. He said, I still see you still got

that still passion. I still see you work hard. To this day, every last one of my position coaches. So, to have the type of relationship that maybe RG3 I still see you work hard to this day, every last one of my position coaches. So to have the type of relationship that maybe RG3 and Jay grew into some of the other coaching players, I wouldn't know anything about that old joke.

I wouldn't. I really wouldn't. So I can't say how they should or shouldn't feel. I probably would feel some type of way if I didn't think my coaches would put me up, put me in a situation where I could succeed. Right. But I've always had great, great relationships. I can pick up the phone. I guarantee I can pick up the phone with Mike Shanahan and call and say, Mike, I want to come to the game.

I want to come to the championship game. Where do you want to stand at 84? You want to be up in the booth or you want to be on the sideline? Go to the Super Bowl. I guarantee if the 49ers go to the Super Bowl, hey, Mike, I need two tickets to go to the Super Bowl. Guaranteed. Right.

Same thing with the Ravens. Hey. That's the way I have it with the Bengals. I don't know. You know, I never take advantage of that situation. Now that you mentioned it, I need to ask. I only go to one game a year. Man, Ocho, when the last time the Broncos went to the Super,

they was at Levi's Stadium. Yeah. I called Mr. B. Look, they got me credentials on the field, pregame, postgame, throughout the entire stadium right so there's like i was like okay i was like damn i'm it's like nah so i'm in a box just me i said well who gonna be in the box with me like right now nobody sharpie hell i called three of my home but hey man i'll come to the game out here. I got them passes.

Right. Mr. B, I said, Mr. B, I was like, Mr. B, I want to come to the game. He's like, okay, come on. I said, well, Mr. B, I ain't got no... He said, your face is your pass. That's your ID. He said, Sharpie, as long as I own the Broncos, you never have to

pay for anything or show anything. Your face is good here. I like that. Broncos and the Ravens have been good to 84. Obviously, I don't do anything now. I mean, every now and then I might like, okay,

I call Flip. And I'm like, Flip, man, them Broncos new helmets, let me get one. he'll send me a helmet stuff like that but for the most part I don't I don't bother but it's that relationship that you have with people and so

I don't know like RG3 got this kind of relationship with Jay Gruden yeah Ocho I can't speak to that yeah they got to fix that too anyway man they got to fix that anyway I mean a simple dm conversation listen this is whatever whatever workout whatever they need be again it is entertaining to see because you don't see anything like that often you know we'll we'll we'll laugh

about it now but they can fix that after you grow them in now but another thing about relationships and about friendships, you got to be careful. You got to be careful about the bridges you burn because you never know when you have to go and walk, walk back across them. Oh, Joe,

never know what I tell you. You never, you never know the toes. You step on the day. They might be on the foot connected to the leg that lead to the butt. You got to kiss tomorrow. Yeah. Be careful how you treat people

you never know who's in a position that's equal to you that might be in a greater position to help you tomorrow yeah yes you you never know obviously i understand what rg3 is doing and he he can defend himself but you don't know what bridge or gap that Jay Gruden may know something and something you may want to do later in life. And that relationship is the one that can bridge that gap on whatever opportunity might present itself down the line. And, you know, I'm just speaking in general.

So, again, you have the right to defend yourself. Yes. To say some of the things you said, you know. Listen, for instance, it's entertaining. But RG3 opened that up because it's like he said what he said and then RG3 was like, say what? Almost to say like, you

were doing the same thing to me. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I see what you're saying. I see what you're saying. So. That's entertaining. But again. Red Hood said, oh, you got to get the gold mask for the greatest dual threat quarterback LaMarvelous Jackson. They're winning

the Super Bowl. Brock Purdy would cost the 49ers against elite teams with an elite quarterback. Man, I don't know. I got to get a Lamar Jackson. They win the Super Bowl got to get a Lamar Jackson. They win the Super Bowl, I wear a Lamar Jackson jersey on first tape.

That'd be dope. I'd like to see that. That's what I'd do. Hey, I'd like to see that. Because the gold man is reserved for gold, James, and my homeboy. So if I wore it for him, I've already worn it for my home. I've already worn it for LeBron. Right.

So I have to get something else for Lamar. Woo! Man. Man, Baltimore going to go. Man, you know, man, Baltimore. You think Baltimore went crazy with Flacco winning the Super Bowl man you let Lamar win the Super Bowl

man what for the culture that's going to be different man if Lamar wins the Super Bowl they need to start putting this statue up right beside Ray don't even wait until he retires put it up beside Ray right now just put it up there now

you're going to put it up there right now. That'd be big. That'd be big. I know who went in the Super Bowl next year. No. I mean, it don't even sound right, Ocho. What don't? Super Bowl champ, Cincinnati Bengals.

It don't even sound right. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Where is the Super Bowl champ Cincinnati Bengals. It don't even sound right. Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Where's the Super Bowl next year? Where's the Super Bowl? Miami? No, wait a minute. New Orleans?

Where's it at? New Orleans. Yeah, all right. Now, let me, stay with me now. I'm going to tell you how the script, I'm going to tell you how the storyline works. New Orleans.

New Orleans. Yeah. Where, where, where Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase went to school? Oh, Lord have mercy. You see where I'm going? These are the type of stories the NFL likes and loves.

Huh? Stay with me now. Joe Burrow. Hold on. Joe Burrow from Ohio. I know where he's from. I'm talking about the storyline. Where he went to Ohio State.

Because the Super Bowl is in New Orleans. The Super Bowl is in New Orleans. The Super Bowl is in New Orleans. I just told you, stay with me. You're not staying with me. You're all over the place. I'm going to follow you in that right now. LSU. Okay, yeah.

You're from Ohio, but you played your collegiate ball at LSU. Super Bowl is in New Orleans. Pieces together. You see where I'm going with this? Yeah. That's a great, the storyline in itself You see where I'm going with this? Yeah. That's a great, the storyline in itself. So where Lamar going?

Lamar going to retire for a year to let him win the division? Oh, listen, listen. I love the Ravens. I love what the Ravens are doing, but when healthy, we get healthy Joe Burrow. Y'all can't beat Lamar

when he healthy? Shit. Well, listen, listen, we get better on the game next year ahead of time if you want to. When Joe Burrow is back and healthy, we don't see the

Ravens. Yeah, right. You can't see them. Yeah, alright. Remember L-Jack hit that spin move on that? They still showing that move he hit on y'all in Cincinnati. That was nice. He's special. He's special. He held out an X

and then matched the square at the same time. He's special. He's special. He held out an X. And then matched the square at the same time. That was a good one. Donnie said, there was a report this offseason that Mick Mill, who is friends with Robert Kraft, told Kraft that Lamar wanted to be a Patriot. Kraft said it was up to Bill.

Imagine what could have been. Nah, that ain't happening happening Lamar ain't say that Lamar look Lamar wanted to get paid he wanted to get what he felt he had earned I've been an MVP I've been an all pro I've gone to the Pro Bowl I've won division I've led you to the playoffs

compensate me like all the other quarterbacks that get compensated. That's done less than what I've done. Right. That was his gripe. Lamar never wanted to leave, but he felt he might've had to leave in order to get what he felt he earned.

Right. He had earned it. I'm an MVP. I've led you to the playoffs. I've won the division. What more can I do? Because you said, well, win a Super Bowl. There's a lot of guys that have won,

that have gotten paid that ain't won a Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. But why is that the criteria for me when it's not the criteria for anyone else? Yeah, well, you know, depending on who it is we're talking about. Right. The criteria always changes. They always find the criteria to go against you

based on what the what the standpoint is or what it is you want or trying to receive well we know we know that game we know that game also well well uh l jack lamar jackson the marvelous whatever they call him in baltimore he's living he's he's lived up to what they thought i don't think they thought this i don't think because here's the thing if you thought he was going to be this you'd have taken him earlier in the first round not trading back into the first round you didn't think you were going to have a two-time league mvp and a possible super bowl winner on your hand you hope like man i hope because no i thought he could be good.

I didn't think he'd be this good. Yeah. You watch him in his Heisman Trophy winning season, and you watch the way he threw the ball, and you watch the way he run the football. A guy threw for 3,500, rushed for 1,500. You're like, okay, he's special. Yeah.

How are they going to translate? A two-time league MVP of a possible Super Bowl now you're talking about hey there's a chance hey Lamar Jackson could crack the top five yeah he he going to the top

listen I'm putting him in the top 10 if he wins the MVP of the Super Bowl Lamar Jackson's already the top 10 quarterback yeah is there a dual threat quarterback in the top 10. If he wins the MVP in the Super Bowl, Lamar Jackson's already the top 10 quarterback. Yeah. Ever. Is there a dual threat quarterback in the top five? Everything is just pocket passes. I mean,

it all depends where you have Elway. Steve Young won two MVPs. He won a Super Bowl MVP, but I don't think he didn't. Steve had a very, people don't realize Steve had a very short career. Yeah. Because Joe, Joe,

Joe left in 93. Steve took over 93. Steve only had like six years of like starting. That's it. Yeah. He was a backup. He was a backup all those years. Joe got hurt.

I think he won the MVP in 92. I think he won the MVP in 92. I think he won the MVP in 92. I think he won it again. I know he won two MVPs. If I'm not mistaken, I think Steve Young won two MVPs. And he started from what, 93 to 90? Yeah,

92 and 94. Because Favre won 95 96 97 they tied he and Barry they were co-MVPs in 97 TD won in 98 Kurt won in the 99 Kurt Warner Marshall won in 2000

the greatest show on turf yeah so hey Uncle Nocho, Day One fan, did y'all see MLK Ming going viral with Rayman Gaines, Dr. King's daughter Bernice King reposted on Twitter. The guys, somebody said MLK

resurrected to witness Lamar playoff master. Oh, at the game, dude, did he look just like him? He did. He did. I saw that, he looked just like him. He did. He did. I saw that. Looked just like him. RDR Food, what's up, Uncle Nocho? Question. Why do you think more teams sit their rookie QBs like Green Bay?

Why don't you think more teams sit their rookie quarterbacks like Green Bay as traditionally? You got an MVP. So what team got mvps playing yeah you don't have no mvps in front of you that's different you you ain't got no choice but to sit right shit brent farm was a three-time league mvp when aaron rogers got there uh jordan love was sitting behind a two-time league mvp got there. Yeah. Come on now. Yeah.

I mean, all things being equal, yeah, you would like to have a guy be able to sit. But more times than not, you don't have that luxury. Because normally when you draft a quarterback, you're bad. And you got to put him in the game. Yeah. I mean, C.J. Stroud, he had to play. There wasn't nobody in front of him. But they were a bad team. They had the second him in the game. Yeah. I mean, C.J. Stroud, he had to play. There wasn't nobody in front of him.

But they were a bad team. They had the second pick in the draft. Yeah. I mean, you love to have the guy sit, get a year up on his belt. Everybody is not like a Peyton Manning. You see Patrick Mahomes, sought for a year. Boom. Tom Brady, sought for a year. He. Tom Brady, sought for a year.

He was about to sit for the second year until Mo Lewis put that hit on Drew Bledsoe. On Drew Bledsoe, yep. So, Michael Vick sat. Chris Chandler was the starter. That's right. Then Mike ended up coming in late in the season. Forgot about that. Yeah. that's right he ended up then mike ended up coming in late in the season forgot about that yeah i mean so all things being equal you would like for your rookie quarterback to see try to learn

through osmosis some people if there's a different rule some people say throw his ass in the game and some people say hey let him sit for a year it just all it all depends on the guy and you know you would always want your rookie quarterback for those that you just throw in the game. You throw them, I call it throwing them to the Sharks. You would always hope it comes out like CJ Stroud, like that type of play as a rookie. When you get that, that's very promising. Very, very promising. Because now you know you have somebody that you could build around and you sit. You got your quarterback for the next 10 years. Yeah.

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at the end of the game, and I assume it was because of the missed field goal. How frustrating does it feel as a player to be in this position? Well, yeah, obviously you don't want to miss a field goal, but you think back to the missed opportunities that you had early. On fourth and a foot, you didn't get it. And then you settled for field goals and you could have scored touchdowns. So all of a sudden, all that replays

in your mind what could have been as you feel the game start to slip away. But still, even as the game, they still had an opportunity to go down and get a field goal to tie the game or potential touchdown to win the game. So all was at loss. Yeah, anytime you miss a field goal, especially points at a premium,

come playoff time because the likelihood of you, you know, racing up and down the field, the momentum doesn't really shift like it does in a regular season game. But I think a lot has to do with replaying the opportunities that you let get away early in the ball game. Yeah. I mean, this is hard for me to talk about,

uh, playoff atmospheres and, and missing, missing field goals or, or not scoring points because I wasn't, I wasn't in those situations very often. So, uh,

outside of Madden, it was, I don't, I don't think it's appropriate often. So outside of Madden, because I don't, I don't think it's appropriate for me to be answering that one. Nick Lepsit. Hey, Uncle Nocho, as two former players, can you experience an emotional drain in one game and come up short the

following week? Or is it just the riding that high? Nah, no. I mean, I've never experienced that. And I heard like. I mean, I've been very fortunate. I mean, we won the playoffs. We normally went on and won the Super Bowl.

So. What, I think I'm like 13 and five in the playoffs. 13-5 in the playoffs? No, I've never experienced that. I remember we came back and we ended up beating the Houston Oilers when they were in Houston. They beat the brakes off us in the old Astrodome. Man, that place was loud. Ocho, you talk about loud. Yeah.

They call it the House of Pain. That was the name of it. And their defense was really good. And they beat us, but they had to come to us because we ended up winning the division, and they had to come to us. And they had us down the whole game, and then Elway pulled out the magic.

We ended up beating them, and we go on the road. Now, remember I told you, 91, I dropped a touchdown in the south end zone that would have given us on field. Right. So now, instead of going to Buffalo, Buffalo would have had to come to us. We lose 10-7 and we miss

three field goals. Dang. So, I replayed that. That's one of the few games. The game that we the, that game, the game, the game that we,

the Jacksonville game, we end up losing in 90, 90 and 96 that knocked us out. We had the best seat. We had the best team with number one seed and Jacksonville come beat us in that game. And I'm the drop when I dropped the pass against the Raiders. So those, that's the game that I replay in my mind over and over and over and over and

over and over again. It's those games. It's games like that. Not, not, you know, I don't, you know,

I don't, I don't replay the catch that I had in the black hole against the Raiders when I was at Baltimore. I don't replay the third down catch that I had in three rivers. I don't replay those in my mind nearly as much as I played that drop that I had in the south end zone against the Raiders in that Jacksonville game. And that's the hard part, Ocho, is that you remember the losses way more than you celebrate the wins.

Yeah. Speaking of that, I have so many losses throughout my tenure. It's hard for me to... You must be immune to them by now. It's difficult. They asking questions at night that I really can't partake in because I

have no playoff experience, but whatever. Call me roll. Hey, Uncle Nocho, I went to the Lions game last week, and it was a record for how loud it was. As a player, how much does crowd noise affect the game, especially if you're playing in a dome? It gets loud, but see, not everybody goes with a silent snap count. Yeah.

So it doesn't have the impact that it once did because, you know, you try to yell and scream. Now you just go to the silent snap count. The guard normally looks back. The quarterback like I'm ready and he'll do that for the center. Center snaps the ball. Right. So you just get used to it. You practice it with crowd noise. Everybody you play. I don't know how y'all did it, Ocho, but we played the crowd noise. Yeah. I had a speaker during that week, and they played the crowd noise to our practice.

Yes. That's how we did it. And what helped us is that we were very simplistic. Hey, we audibly to handoff or toss. Right. One or the other. That's it. Toss weak, handoff strong.

That's what we ought to be doing. All day, you try to get cute and try to say, oh, you run up and down a line of scrimmage. Oh, you're going to do this right here, doing all that stuff, right? Toss and handoff. We come and stop it. Yeah. That's it stop it. Yeah. That's it. Dre, I think the Houston Texans are the best team out of Texas.

What are your thoughts on those young bulls? It's hard to argue. It's hard to argue. It made you to the second round, huh? It made you to the second round it i mean cowboys a bro at the end of the day man you got to um you got to be about it you can't talk about it they do a lot of talking not a lot of playing they're're going to get it together, man. I think next year is a cowboy year. You've been saying that for 28 years.

I think, you know, next year is a cowboy year. It's a cowboy year. You said that last year. Oh, I didn't say that. They said it. I'm just regurgitating what they say. I'm just trying to get people to hope. Repetitions of a lie don't make it truth.

Mm-hmm. See? Repetition of a lie don't make it I'm definitely gonna use that on her the Cowboys of Texas next year which team would benefit the most by signing Derrick Henry yeah I did say Cowboys

that'd be nice, Lysol thunder and lightning no pollard henry that'd be nice you see the difference between when paula gotta carry that bell gotta carry that mail yeah he ain't got zeke to spell him and zeke getting all those tough yards and now they asking him to cram that thing up in there and get those tough yards he didn't look he didn't look like he looked last year did did he, Ochoa? He's not built like that. That's not what he does. He doesn't have the frame for that. He's not your workhorse.

They couldn't blame Zeke. Zeke wasn't there. Zeke was getting them tough yardage in New England. You didn't realize how much you was going to miss Zeke on the third and short, fourth and short, and the go-to-go situations. Right, right.

But I think Derrick Henry would be great for the Cowboys. Yeah. But here's the thing, Ocho. When you pay a guy that kind of money, you paying him $40, $45 million to turn around and hand the ball off or to throw the football? Throw the football. But you're going to need that

running game, especially come playoff time. I understand that. You're going to need that running game to chew that clock up. Well, that's Mike McCarthy told that lie. Mike McCarthy told a lie. He fired Kellen Moore because they wanted to be a more balanced football team.

They threw the ball more last year than they did the previous year with Kellen Moore. That's fact. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Well, sometimes, you know, sometimes, you know, you lie to get what you want.

It happens in life. I'd like to see D. Henry. I'd like to see King Henry with the Cowboys that'd be a nice addition a very nice addition I like that so please make sure you hit that like button

make sure you hit that subscribe button where are we Ash? hey what? we at 856,000 subs. How many in the chat? Wow. We got 40,000 in the chat, Ocho. Hey, chat, I love you.

All 40,000 of you. I love you. If you need me, call me. If you have anything going on, you know, I know the new year just started. Hit my line. I got you. I might say no.

I might say no, but that's not the fact. The fact that i'm here for you in a time of need it says a lot it says a lot guys i know 40 000 hey y'all hit that like button hit the subscribe button i know all 40 000 we appreciate you i don't want you to think that we're not appreciative of that you're actually watching and listening to us in the chat. But hit that subscribe button. I know if we can get like 10, 15% of y'all to hit that subscribe button right now, I would greatly, greatly appreciate that. Now, I ain't on them blue diamonds tonight, man.

Y'all want to boil them diamonds all the time? Hey! Yeah, that's gonna that's gonna mess up your level now gonna mess up your level it is

I don't know I'm just I just hear that all the time I did hear that I did hear that somebody go it mess with your eyesight

talking about you might go blind with them diamonds for real yeah I'll be in that thing like aye you gonna be you gonna look like Etta James.

Hey, I ain't gonna say it. Yeah, you can't sing it. You can't sing it. You can't sing it. We can't see it. Hey. I mean, look. Hey.

It ain't stop Stevie. It ain't stop Stevie from doing or shaking the cover. It ain't stop Ray Charles from shaking the cover. Yeah, oh, but Ray Charles was loose with it, bro. Yay! So what that mean if I can't see? He didn't play. All right.

I know the other eye can see. I might not can see, but the other eye can see. Man, I'm telling you, you crazy, man. Hey. Hell no. man Ocho you crazy man hey there's something wrong with you Ocho nah man what's that what's it that's funny

uh uh uh Ryan hold on Gabe Romance where can i get them special laporte bottles to stash you for houston's upcoming super bowl run love the pod bring on andre johnson uh we're about if i'm not mistaken we might be just about out of those um the first 25 000 was numbered one through through 25,000.

And if I'm not mistaken, I think that run is about out. It might be already out, if I'm not mistaken. So, Gabe, I don't know what to tell you. You'd have to click the link and see. But if I'm not mistaken, I think we're

out or pretty close to being out. But I appreciate the support. Ryan asked, will, will LaPorte eventually be able to ship to the beautiful sub tropical Island of Key West, Florida? I like a,

a bottle for the Superbowl. I think we shipped to Florida. Yeah. Key West, right down the street from me. Well, I have Ocho bring your bottle. David,

David, I drive it down there what's up the La Portia is amazing I don't drink but after the only thing I touch in Ocho that song with what is that John LaJoy I'm inside of me it's questionable

if that's you being a rapper put your two weeks notice with Apple music you was rapping don't you i think we need i'm he probably talked about the commercial i just did or he said inside me yeah that's from that's from the tv show long time ago long long long time ago oh you was rapping yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you know i do i do a little bit everything i should have won an oscar i should have won an Oscar for that appearance, but... For TV?

No, you went Emmy for TV. Oh, wait, I should have won an Emmy. You're right. I should have won an Emmy. I should have won an Emmy. Or maybe a Golden Globe. Yeah, I had a few awards where I should have won an Emmy, but it just didn't happen.

It didn't happen? Okay. Nah. I'm going to get one, though. Faith said, Hey, Ochoa and Shannon. I've been researching pay equity and learn sports

analysts. Former players make less than their counterpart. Former players are subject matter experts and often increase viewership. What's being done to bridge the gap? Pay equity. She's saying

she's been researching equity and learned sports analysts, former players make less than their counterpart. They do. Former players are subject matter expert and often increase viewership. What's being done to bridge the gap?

So, shoot, the only person that can bridge the gap is the person that's cutting the check. Exactly. That's it. That's it. And the better you are at your job, as far as viewership goes, content, the knowledge you do have, the research you do do, and what you to the table then you create you create the demand for higher pay correct that all comes from within especially once you're not on the football field yes you're right i mean um yeah i believe because here's the thing. These jobs, I mean, there are people retiring every year from the NFL. And if you have one of these jobs, you try to hold on to it.

Because there's so many people that's retiring and, you know, names. And, you know, they love love names especially if there's a quarterback yeah they get first dibs and then it goes your big your big tear wide receivers defensive players yeah that's how it goes. Now, I don't listen to the sound, but a lot of people say they like Greg Olson. They like Tony Romo. Normally, quarterbacks get those jobs. You see

Troy Aikman. You see Romo. Don Meredith. Dan Fouts. A lot of times, the quarterback get those jobs, but I don't really know what, like you said, like Ocho said, I mean, basically it's going to come down to the guy that's cutting the checks.

And then what all do you bring to the table? Yep. How entertaining you are. I mean, do people, are you you polarizing people like who they like john r k john r kelly carrie said i need the party but non-democrat welcome to be fans at nightcap and club shea shea absolutely absolutely we non-political here but we will give you an opinion Rob Lee says

hey Unc and Tocho I like that let's catch it on Unc have you been huge for me for years I wanted to ask for a shout out to my girlfriend Peaches love you guys hey Peaches I don't know that's your girlfriend's real name I hope you don't know when they call her Peaches. Love you guys. Hey, Peaches!

I don't know. That's your girlfriend's real name? I hope you don't know when they call her Peaches. That's a nickname. That's a cool nickname. Gotta be a nickname. That might be. I mean, Peaches is a... Yeah, you're right. You're right. It might be her name. Hey,

you remember Snowfall? Yeah. Oh, Peaches, yeah. Peaches stole that money and dipped on them. They ain't found Peaches yet. No, they found Peaches. Remember, Peaches was hiding in the house. Yeah, you right. You right.

Peaches was hiding. He had no money, though. D-Ray Davis was hiding. He had nothing left. Yeah, yeah. You right about that, Ochoa. Man, I can't believe Peaches did that, man. Peaches, you dirty.

And listen. Money will do that. When money comes involved, when money is involved, it make people do strange things, man. Like I had Country Wayne on, and he said, hey, and somebody hit him up for like 15 grand,

he said, with like a friend. Whoa, 15? 15, yeah. And like 15 grand he said with like a friend whoa 15 15 yeah and he said he said sometimes you gotta help people not disappoint you by not putting them in situations where they can disappoint you so you know he probably had the money i probably you know back in the day when he was you you know, had a stash house or something, trusting people. Right. Hit him up. He said, sometimes you got to help people not disappoint you.

Right. And you're right. You're absolutely right. That's a good one. Hey, Uncle Ocho, huge fan. Is it reasonable to break up with someone because they don't have the same ambitions and desire for success? Please help your nephew out. Absolutely. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I don't know what took you so long. You didn't even ask me, Ocho, for success. Please help your nephew out. Absolutely.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I don't know what took you so long. You didn't even ask me no joke for that. What? Had nobody holding you back? Shit, you right here

busting your ass trying to make something of yourself. You got somebody that ain't with no drive, no enthusiasm, no want to. Well, you better shit

tell them to kick the bucket. Yeah. Now, we don't want them to kick the bucket, but they need to kick rocks. We don't want them to kick the bucket, but they need to kick rocks. We don't want him to kick the bucket. We want him to kick rocks, culture. My bad.

Kick rocks. Yeah, yeah. Wave check. Yeah. What's up, Ocho, Ocho, Tocho? Do you remember your first kiss? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Kindergarten.

I never forget. Amy, Amy Beth. Yeah, Amy Beth. Kindergarten. You slipped a little tongue Beth. You slipped a little tongue in. Nah, I ain't put no tongue in there. I ain't put no tongue in there. You ain't put no tongue in there? Nah, I ain't.

Nah, I ain't. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't that experienced. I wasn't that experienced. Okay, there's nothing wrong with that. You know? Wasn't that a little pop and I gave a...

You got a little pick? Yeah, and a little Jolly Rancher. I gave a... Oh, yeah. Strawberry Jolly Rancher. I'll never forget. That's all right, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. I wonder a strawberry Jolly Rancher. I'll never forget. That's all right, Ocho. Yeah.

Yeah. I wonder how Amy Beth doing, too. Oh, that's throwback. Man, I can't even remember. I don't. I don't. I'm not going to even lie. I don't remember the first.

I don't remember my first kiss. I don't. I probably slipped a little tongue, though. I probably slipped a little tongue, though. I probably put that little baby D on him I put that baby D on him hold on hold on the first kiss

yeah I was managed I was managed wait hold on so how when I ask you to do certain things at our big age it's frowned upon

but you was managed back then where's the energy we need that energy you managed back then. Where's the energy? We need that energy you had back then right now. Them young boys ruin it. Them young boys ruin it because they're coming in off the rip. They're coming in hot. They're coming

out of everybody's plate from the jump. Listen, if the young boys coming hot, you got to come in hotter. Nah, man. Don't let them out. You can't let them out, do you, man? Yeah, they out there. Yeah, yeah. You got to keep up, man. You got to keep up. You acting like old, outdated software.

We need you to evolve. Evolve with the times. If I ain't no better, I swear them old boys had jobs at the post office licking stamps in the back. Because they licking everything from the junk, Ocho. I mean, I think all of them. Did y'all work at the post office in the back licking stamps? You know what I'm saying? Ocho, you know, they got the loose thing. I mean, I think all on. Did y'all work at the post office in the back looking stamps? You know what I'm saying? Ojo, you know, they got

the luthane now that they put the stamp on. These young boys coming to that thing hot. I said, oh, whoa, whoa. I said, they doing this off the rip? I said, hello. They doing this off the rip, and they buying cars, paying rent,

and buying LLFs. Yeah. Now, one of the other. Now, I got you throwing me out. You get one of the other. I can't do all that. You got to give them the whole package. Oh, man.

I mean, listen, you're already a provider. You're already able to help, you know, when people ask for things. You might as well, once you add the other dynamic to it, you know, the toes, you know, from head to toe, when you go to the car wash, you get your car detail, they touch everything. They hit you from back to the front. You hear me? I want one of them O'Shea trees, dog.

Get the hose pipe and squeeze. I can't go get the whole detail. Uh-uh, Ocho. Nah, nah, nah. Y'all do it too much. These young boys, though. These young boys off the chain, though. I hear about these young boys.

You got to catch up. I see. I guess that's why you boy out of gas. That's why ain't nobody want me, because they're in a hurry. My shape. You got to catch up. You got to catch up. At some point, you got to evolve.

At some point, you got to evolve, or you're going to get left behind. When are they going to be behind? Hey, you're going to be like. I'm going to call you Wilson. I'm going to call you Wilson. I'm going to call you Wilson, like Castaway. You're going to be Wilson, right there by yourself. I'm on the island by myself. Ocho, can we work up?

I mean, you can't come in from the dough, Ocho. You get it from the dough. You got it from the dough. Kick the motherfucker in. You got to kick the dough in. You got to kick the... You got... Listen.

You can't use the old outdated 1950 methods in today's society. But these plays still work. It don't work. Man, the playbooks still work. With who? It don't work. It don't work.

I guess that's why your old poor hustle over here by himself. Nah, we're going to get you together. I'm all alone. There's no one beside me. Yeah, there you go. All by myself. Myself. But y'all need to slow down.

These young boys. Hey, young boys, slow down now. Man, let them 55-year-old catch up with y'all. You got to step on that. step on that step on the gas boy don't you got it don't you got a charger what's that you got a hellcat I got a challenger yeah I got a black ghost yeah you got a black ghost you

know how you drive that you put the pedal to the metal but not from the auto I mean as soon as I got the car you know I it started purring like yeah you know I had to like it started purring like you know I let it build up y'all let it build up

y'all get the car go straight I know Dan you ain't got no black ghost talking about you let it build up build up what how y'all gonna go y'all go straight to the track

y'all go straight to the racetrack and put the car on the track straight to the track I mean that's the point that's why they built the engine. That's what the engine was built for. That's what the engine was built for. God put you out here and you have a perfect...

Am I wrong? Hey, Chad, I ain't wrong. Come on, man. Y'all got to slow down. They speeding. Everybody ain't meant to be in the far left lane, Ocho. Everybody ain't meant to be in the... Look here. They got six lanes. On the 4, 5, the 10, the 110, we got six lanes out here. Everybody ain't meant to be in the... Look here. They got six lanes. On the phone 5 to 10 to 110, we got six lanes out here. Everybody ain't in the left lane.

Damn it. Everybody need to be in the left lane. Tomorrow ain't promised. What you waiting for? Tomorrow's not promised. What you waiting for? Why you wasting time? Ain't nobody wasting no time, Ocho. But everybody ain't coming off the muscle like that. It's wasting time.

I'm just telling you it is. It's way it's wasting time. I'm just telling you it is. It's just a waste of time. Smoking mirrors. It's just smoking mirrors. You know, you it's just cream filling. Hey, fuck that. Just give me the donut. Just give me the donut.

I don't I don't I don't want all. Yeah, I'm sorry. I got to slow down. I got to slow down. I i'm gonna work with you you know we gonna we gonna when we be in vegas in vegas we're gonna work with you in vegas and in and try to try to guide you since i i'd be able to see you in person i have yeah i have i have something for you lined up huh i'm gonna have somebody for you lined up. Nah, you ain't got nobody lined up for me because I ain't young. Huh?

I ain't young. You're not young, but we're going to make sure you act young. We need you to move young. You got to do things different. The baby aren't young, but I ain't young. The baby aren't worth.

The baby aren't worth. I'll be on them diamonds. I'll be on them diamonds. I'll be on them. I'll be on them on your heart. Heart. Heart. Hold on. I'm trying not to wake up.

Man, hold on. Nick, what you talking about? Can you please, please speak on the benefits of spanking in the bathroom? It increases blood flow, is affectionate, and is hot when done right, unless you crazy. It's amazing, needs to be promoted more.

Nah, hell nah, Nick, I ain't with you on that one. You by yourself. You want to do what in the bathroom? Nah, he be watching Spanktribision. What's that? You know, when the movies come on. You know, the movies. The movies come on. Oh.

Oh, I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I know. Hell nah. I'm lost a little bit. Nah, he in the, you know. Give me another clue. Give me another clue so I get it.

Can you please please please speak on the benefits of spanking in the bedroom it increases blood flow oh oh oh oh oh oh oh yeah i gotta i gotta i gotta i gotta keep it cute with that one i gotta keep it cute nah man i mean all the stuff that you used to be able to do that you could get away with I got to keep it cute. Nah, man. I mean, all the stuff that you used to be able to do that you could get away with. Yeah. You know.

You know, I used to be a cop. You know, I kept myself cuffs on. Yeah, I like that. Cuff up. I like it, yeah. Like, I work in the system. Cuff up. Not no more.

Not no more. No? No hell no. Why not? No, man. That's a good one right there. No. Like I said,

a lot of stuff that used to be go down, used to go down. Right. Can't go down no more. Bang change. That's a good one, though.

As a matter of fact, I'm about to go to the dentist to have all my teeth taken out. So I can't bite nobody. But come on. Come on. Ocho is a different type, Ocho, man. The stuff that we used to be able to do you know

uh uh you fighting it and you not understanding you talk about it's a different time but you doing nothing to evolve with the times like you know you IBM everybody else using Apple

and you IBM you Hewlett Packard I'm dialed up You IBM. Everybody else using Apple. And you IBM. You Hewlett Packard. I'm dial-up. I'm AOL. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.

And none of that is compatible in today's society. So you get left behind. It makes no sense. It makes no sense. You got to change the routine up. Yeah, what you do back in the day? You know, hey, I'm a little friggin', you know.

You know, old lieutenant. I was a captain. Yeah. There you go. You know, cowboy, you know, have me a little, you know. Not no more had to buy you ain't no fun no more I'm sorry baby

yeah you don't you don't want me to do that don't let them tell you you're not no fun because then they go get the young bulls then they go get them young bulls back in the day go get the young bulls. They're going to get the young bulls. Back in the day, I don't have been to the rodeo a couple of times. I'm good, Ocho.

Yeah, I got you. I got you. I'm with you when you're right off. You can't do all the stuff that you used to do, Ocho. You know. I can. I can. More power to you. Plus something. Well, I guess I need to get married then so I can do all I used to do. Listen, man.

I'm like 10 different people, 10 different personalities. That's how I used to be, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, man. That's how you used to be. I'm still like that. I'm finding ways to reinvent myself. I'm finding ways to keep that spark to to keep

it fun um what's another word i'm looking for you know it's just it's just it's it's weird trying to find new ways to fall in love again trying to find new ways to have fun again yeah trying to find new ways to make it feel fresh again even though we're still the same individual just oh that shit that shit is work man and i don't mean to be going into all that Trying to find new ways to make it feel fresh again, even though we're still the same individual. Oh, that shit is work, man. And I don't mean to be going into all that shit, but that shit is hard. Hard, don't you? It's hard, boy.

It's hard. You see my whole mannerism, my whole tone change. Yeah, yeah. That shit hard, boy. Put one of them diamonds on you. That shit cost too much, boy. That's all right. Yeah, I diamonds put one of them diamonds on you that shit cost too much boy that's alright yeah I saw the price

I saw the price of them 48 hours for 48 hours yeah they be in a lot of trouble I like it I like it damn

yeah I I don't want to send my baby to the ER now I don't want to no it's just see that's see they forget all about they forget all about

the young boy used to do when the baby arm come out you good undisputed I'm undisputed I forgot to show my jersey tonight man Toto some of the athletes had great potential but due I forgot to show my jersey tonight. Oh, don't show.

Some of the athletes had great potential, but due to circumstances, we look back on their lives. What could have been two people that come to mind or Greg Oden and Brandon Roy. Well, Greg Oden, Greg wrote it was the injuries.

Yes. Brandon Roy, same thing. Bo Jackson. Injuries. Most of the time it's because of injuries I think that's one of the few things

that's cut players that we've we've deemed to be great that were picked early wow okay yeah that's pretty much it

hey and Rob said love y'all man and Peaches is a real name oh okay so Peaches oh sure they say stop leaving that name. Oh, okay.

So he just oh, they say stop leaving that water box that label on that water. Oh, we try to get free advertising. How bad? I watch a Hall of Fame speech earlier today. It's one of the best got me in

my emotions your brother still deserves to be in there well hopefully jason one day um that was uh that was from the heart i mean you know people have asked how long did it take me to write that speech i'd say the speech has been writing itself for 43 years um you wanted to get started, but I already knew. I knew the sequence in which I was going to go. And you just go. Actually, I have a copy. I think I'm going to give a copy to Savannah State

for my Hall of Fame speech. I got a Hall of Fame speech too. You got one on deck? Yeah. Matter of fact, I want music. I want music when I walk out. I don't think that's gonna happen, Ocho. Quick question for Ocho. I'm a big I walk out. I don't think that's going to happen, Ocho. Quick question for Ocho. I'm a big fan of yours. I think you should be in the Hall of Fame.

But do you think you're a better receiver than Teal? Honestly, no cap, bro. I'm a better receiver than everybody. Huh? Talk about, man. I'm Ocho, man. You know how good I was? You want to know how good I was?

I was so good. Stay with me in that chat was i was so good stay with me now chat i was so good huh i changed my last name to a number that was spelled incorrectly you know how good you got to be to do that huh and it be accepted that's how good i was nah them boy t nigga t.o. t.o. was different man t.o different man T.O. different the best to ever play the goddamn game boy that boy was a dog you hear me let's call let's oh oh no is that nah I was following the bug T.O. man hey that

boy was that was that boy oh yeah well hey I got him look for me you know I've said this I've told T.O. this uh me I've got him I got him number two behind jerry yeah me now i don't know what's going to happen in the next 30 years but but jerry i mean people see i think the thing is ocho people don't realize just how good jerry was because jerry ain't got no one-handed catch. He didn't jump over anybody.

Right. Jerry was that car that always cranked, got you to work for 20 straight years. So like a Honda. Like a Honda. Like a 96 Honda. And nobody was like, ooh, man, look at that car. Jerry was just like that. Mm.

I like that. You already know what you're going to get with Jay. Yeah, that's a good analogy. I like that. Consistent, reliable. Yeah, okay. Edwin, I already have my daughter's birthday. She turns 15.

Happy birthday. Shout out to Brianna Reina Alvarez. Happy birthday, Brianna. Happy 15th. Oh, she turns 15 on Tuesday. Happy birthday, Brianna. Happy 15th. Oh, she turned 15 on Tuesday. Happy birthday, Brianna. Enjoy your day and eat lots of cake. Paisley Jones. What's up, Okonoccio?

Just want to tell you blessings. And today is my birthday. Paisley, happy birthday. Happy birthday. Okay. Dr. Frank L. Bellamy is back hey why don't you post what you eat for breakfast anymore them paper plates have me

ready for a barbecue most of the time I don't eat nothing but burritos now and plus half the time I don't eat because I be trying to get out because I be trying to get that last little bit of sleep I be trying to get that last little bit of sleep. I be trying to get that last little bit of sleep.

I ain't got time to be eating. And first take, they don't provide breakfast for me when I'm here in L.A. They do provide breakfast for me when I'm in New York. But somebody else eat the breakfast. Somebody else be eating the breakfast. Jordan be eating the breakfast. Ash is not a breakfast Jordan be eating a breakfast Ash is not a breakfast person she just be ordering expensive shit expensive

bull job on my room that's what Ash be doing coming down to my room this looks nice you know they do got that in your room too that same menu that you got right here in my room, they got it in your room. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Different credit card. Michael Chia said, love the show, guys. Been here since day one. Howard Stern talked about Club Che Che on the show the last few weeks. Would you ever be a guest on his show? I think it would be a great promo outlet for Shea Shea Nightcap.

Sure. No problem. Howard Stern, man, look. That's that boy, right? One of the first. One of the originators. Yeah. Yeah. I'd like for him to come on Club Shea Shea too. That's a good one.

You want some controversy. There you go. Right there. I don't think it'd be that I like for him to come on club Shay Shay too that's a good one you bet he you want some controversy there you go right there ain't gonna be I don't think it'd be that controversy shit but I saw his movie

I actually I saw his movie when it came out many many years ago Larry Williams said my son wants to play football he's in the 8th grade is it too late to start

nope he's about the right age probably about 13 yeah knowing what we know now I mean if I if I had a son eighth grade. Is it too late to start? Nope. It's about the right age. Probably about 13. Knowing what we know now, I mean, if I had a son, I probably would let him play tackle football until he was about 13, 12, 13. Let him play

flag. Yeah, let him play flag, but not tackle until he was about 13. Get the fundamentals, get the basics right. Yeah. Me, but I had, hey, I think I played. I think I was like, I think I was like eight, nine. I was four. Seven, seven.

Seven, seven. Yeah. I was like nine. I was four. You know, we started four years old out here. Liberty City Optimus. Mm-hmm. Thomas said, Gil did all that working out, putting up 12 shots in the gym every

day, only scored 12 points in the shootout. What do y'all have? He lost? Gil lost the shootout? To who? Hold on, Chad. Did Gil lose the shootout? Who he shot out against with? I mean, who did he shoot out with? Okay. okay no I'm just I'm shocked

I know Goodwill I know Goodwill ain't Goodwill uh uh uh Gil ain't lose ain't lose no ain't lose the shootout did Gil lose who did he shoot against Gil lost to who? Come on.

Hold on. Hold on, Gil. Now, you don't talk about you going to out-shoot all them guys on the Lakers bench that's getting major minutes, and you got beat by some YouTube. Who the hell beat Gil? Oh, he got beat by a YouTuber? Who be Gil, y'all? I need some names.

I need footage. Somebody send me the footage to my Twitter, please. Damn, Gil. Who the hell is Gil? If you Gil. Who the hell is this? Gil, if you didn't lose to a guy that was in the NBA, I would tear your ass up on Wednesday.

I know damn well you ain't lose. What a man they was, Ash. A dude named Anthony. Anthony Miracola. So you agent zero, I guess he's special agent. Because you know ATF, they have what they call a sack, which is a special agent in charge. Come on, Gil.

I need footage. I got to see this. I don't need no footage, Gil Laws. Somebody send me the clip to my Twitter, Gil. I need footage. I got to see this. I don't need no footage, Gil Laws. Somebody send me the clip to my Twitter, please. Me and Gil got to work on his shot. And I helped him out back in the day during his playing days. Man, Gil. I got some air max.

Y'all know what these are? 95s. Not 95s, Ocho. They mean 95s? No. 96? Oh, Lord have mercy. I don't wear MX.

So? I don't wear MX So I'm going to show you my jersey You know who that is? Zanadine Zidane Okay Okay There we go We getting somewhere Yeah

I'll be going There we go There we go We getting somewhere I like. I'll be doing. There we go. There we go. We getting somewhere. I like that. I like that. Yeah. Damn.

Gil. Man, you let dude beat you in the first. Okay, if you lost in the finals. Hey, I can say, you know what, Gil? You've been shooting a lot. Gil. How many shots Gil make? Somebody sent me the clip of Gil

losing man damn Gil damn damn damn Gil damn oh man ah man oh damn somebody sent it to me that damn fast

man they cook guilt oh there's some some dude hit like 43 42 threes is that it well hell the Lakers should sign him Anthony Maricola

the best shooter in the world okay I see if he lost to my guy, Lethal Shooter. If you lost to him, Gil, I said, okay, Gil, chalk that one up. Hey, it happens sometimes. Who is Lethal Shooter? He the one that be helping people with their shot. Oh, okay.

He that good or something? Man, I'm a... You made me curse, don't you? He be shooting that ball into that little ass hoop. The ball can barely fit in that hoop. Right. And he be shooting the... The goal be spinning around,

and he be... draining it. Hmm. Dude made 42 or 50 yeah Gil you lost that one bro I guess he was practicing too mm-hmm oh I see Lethal Shooter name right here

mm-hmm man you don't want to see me man I'll beat, Ocho. So, I know you. I didn't tell you my stories on prominent. Ocho, you didn't even play basketball in high school.

What you mean? In high school, I dropped You didn't play basketball in high school. Yes, I did. I dropped 38, 12 and 10 a night. What you talking about? What you talking about, man? This man here. Check, man.

Check. Miami Beach Senior High, 1996, 1995, 1994. I understand it's a high school, but you ain't play no basketball. You ain't shoot no hoops. I just told you what I did. Nothing. I just gave you my stats. I was a freshman, 38, 12, and 10.

Oh, Lord have mercy. I like that. No, you're not. All right. Well, see me on the court then. See me on the court. See me on the court. Is that right?

Oh, Lord have mercy. Them dogs ain't going to want to go out in the morning. I'm stuck. i'm stuck i'm stuck my dogs are not going to go out in the morning it's ready please make sure you hit that like button make sure you hit that subscribe button guys i know a lot of you guys in the chat are not subscribers please subscribe because the schedule is going to be a little different once the playoffs are over. Once the NFL regular season ends, we're going to have to get another schedule. We don't want you to miss any of the episodes of Nightcap. So please hit that subscribe button and turn on your notifications

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