Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Aaron Rodgers’ Potential Return, Unc's Savannah State Homecoming & Yvonne Orji’s Virginity

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Jets’ seemingly hopeless season with Zach Wilson under center (2:00), the current AFC power rankings (15:00), midseason awards (32:00), Yvonne O...rji (45:00), and their respective opinions on how to treat the ladies (1:01:00). #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:06 Please make sure you subscribe to Nightcast Podcast Feed wherever you listen to your podcast. Let's jump right into it, Ocho. Yeah. The Chargers dominate the Jets. How's that, Wilson, look tonight? You know what? I'm hurting.
Starting point is 00:04:21 I'm hurting. I'm hurting for the Jets in its entirety, not just Zach and his performance. It's very difficult to perform at a very high level when the supporting cast around you, especially the most important part around you, is the offensive line. And you need the offensive line to be adequate
Starting point is 00:04:37 in order to be efficient at the quarterback position. With that being said... Why are you asking... Come again? I was going to ask you, why do you ask more from the offensive line than you ask from the quarterback? You make every excuse. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:04:51 I have a question. When you run it, right, and you got to run somewhere, and if your shoe's not tied, you won't be able to run because you're going to trip over yourself. So the offensive line is the shoes and the shoelaces. Okay? You hear me? The offensive line are the shoes and the shoelaces. Okay, you hear me? The opposite line are the shoes
Starting point is 00:05:08 and the shoelaces. And if the shoes ain't on and ain't tied right, your ass ain't going no goddamn well. Ocho, you grew up kind of like I did. What happened when your shoes got too small for your feet and you didn't have no money to get none and you got to walk around in them two little ass shoes? You cut the toe out.
Starting point is 00:05:23 You cut the toe out. And you see, that's what and you didn't have no money to get none, and you got to walk around in them two little-ass shoes. You cut the toe out. They hurt your feet, though. You cut the toe out. Mm-hmm. And you see, that's what Zach Wilson is. The shoe that's too small. Yeah. They just hurting all the rest of the— The special team's hurting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:33 The defense hurting. Yeah. The fans hurting. And you see, it starts to wear. You see Robert Sala. Yeah. He's not saying much. He's not really saying anything, but it's body language.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah. The defense body language. Ocho, you know how hard it is to keep trotting out there. You force the offense to go three and out, and then by the time you turn around and get a drink of water, you got to go back in because your offense went three and out.
Starting point is 00:05:57 You know what? Just to be honest, I'm not going to make any excuses. Zach Wilson didn't play well. Obviously, they didn't play well as a whole offensively. But the Jets were sloppy in the first half. Two lost fumbles. The first drives of the game. You know, you want to set the tone early when you go into a game.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This is what I'm thinking about when I was playing. And Marvin Lewis used to say, you want to set the tone of the game early at the beginning and get some type of momentum and a little confidence in yourself offensively, especially for a quarterback. You want to be able to get into a rhythm early, whether it be the run, whether it be short passes, just to get the offense going. The Jets' first five drives, punt, fumble, fumble, punt, punt. You ain't going to get nothing done like that. You're not going to get nothing done like that when you can't get yourself or your offense into a rhythm. like that. You're not going to get nothing done like that when you can't get yourself or your offense into a rhythm. Joey Bosa, sack, forced a fumble in the first half. I mean, the Chargers
Starting point is 00:06:52 ended the game with eight sacks, man. This is the NFL. Two forced fumbles, yeah. This is the NFL. Eight sacks in one game. Obviously, at some point on the back of your jersey, forget you playing for the team. Forget you playing for the Jets. The name on the back of your jersey, forget you playing for the team. Forget you playing for the Jets. The name on the back of your jersey is enough and having pride and being able to have a good showing individually out there. It should be, Ocho. It should be more than enough
Starting point is 00:07:18 because that's what you're doing. You're trying to represent yourself. You're trying to represent your family. I think sometimes guys don't have enough. Look, I was an undersized tight end, but I was damned if I was going to let the defensive lineman just beat me every snap. I just had too much
Starting point is 00:07:31 pride. Yeah, I was undersized. I was 228 pounds. Going up against 275, 280, that's it. That's it, bro. That's what I weighed. 228. I played at 220. He was only 8 more. 228. I ain't know. I played at 220. He was only eight more pounds than me.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I ain't know that. So, the big receiver, Megatron, weighed more than I did. Yeah. That's a big player. Julio, I probably was a couple of pounds heavier than Julio. Maybe. Julio, probably 225, 230. But I played the majority of my career.
Starting point is 00:08:04 When they moved me from wide receiver to tight end oh joe i finished the season i weighed about 207 trying to really tidy how you lose all that weight that fast though bro i couldn't you know the thing is the thing that you have to understand how to do is how to to get your nutrition in and how to lift how to lift during the season. Because at some point in time, your shoulders are going to get sore, your elbows are going to get sore and you got to find a way to try to keep some of that weight on. And, you know, I didn't know anything about nutrition, didn't really know how to train like that because, you know, you practice it and the days are coming up real quick. And, uh, but once I figured it out, I was good to go.
Starting point is 00:08:47 But, yeah, and it's frustrating because the Jets' defense and their special teams are good enough. They're more than good enough. And I think they're good enough in every position right now. Honestly, Ojo, I think the Jets are good enough in every position except the most important position, and that's the front. The quarterback position. Yeah, it's hard to overcome that, Ojo. The quarterback position. It's hard to overcome that. It is. It's very
Starting point is 00:09:08 hard to overcome it, but you have to remember, the Jets have won the last three. Obviously, they fell short tonight against a good team. And then on the standpoint of the Chargers, the Chargers are below.500. This is a game that they needed to win. This is a game that they need to win if they're thinking about getting to the playoffs. They were
Starting point is 00:09:24 a playoff team last year. And obviously the expectations coming into this year were to obviously be a playoff team as well. But obviously they haven't been playing up the par. Neither has Herbert been playing up the par. It was a sloppy
Starting point is 00:09:39 game. It was a sloppy game for the Jets all around. Ocho, you know the thing is that we beat, at some point in time, we're going to have to start judging Justin Herbert by his ability to win games and not be in awe of his talent. Right. Because if you look at his record, he's 29 and 28. He's a slightly above 500 quarterback.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That's what he is. You can be in awe at 6' four right rocket rocket arm great ability can make all through all the throws but what his resume says what his record says he's one game above 500 it's as simple as that so we've got to hold these guys is that just like we do doc prescott we hold them to hey we've got to ask and demand that justin herbert be that same guy he's a one game above 500 quarterback for all the physical tools that he has and he is as physically gifted of a quarterback as we have yeah because he can make every throw on the move rolling to his left rolling to his right can make tight window throws can get out of harm's way with his legs but as i
Starting point is 00:10:44 say all of that he's a game over 500. Do you take into account some of the injuries that he's had to affect the offense in general? Mike Williams going down, Palmer going down. Do you think that in any way sways the difference in the record that they do have? With them being 3-4 coming into this game and now being 4-4 and being able to squeeze out a win
Starting point is 00:11:03 against a Jets team. But what we ask the really good quarterbacks to do is to overcome that. Yeah, you're right. You're right. We ask them to overcome that. Is he in the elite conversation of the type of quarterback
Starting point is 00:11:15 that you can have injuries and he can overcome those injuries based on his play? Is he in the elite conversation though? Has he ever been in the elite conversation? He has elite physical skills. Okay. But we haven't
Starting point is 00:11:32 seen him do it enough with the consistency. Like I said, look at the talent that they got. Oh yeah. Third best receiver in the league as far as I'm concerned. I mean, they got Keenan. They got a lot of guys.
Starting point is 00:11:46 They got tight ends that can make tight end. Eckler is a solid guy. Now, he's not no six-foot, six-one, six-two guy running four-four, but he can catch the ball tonight notwithstanding. Had a couple of drops tonight. Runs with Park. He's going to get the ball in the end zone. He'll win you a lot of games if he's on your fantasy team
Starting point is 00:12:04 because he's going to find a way to squeeze his way into the end zone but there's no reason that the the the chargers over the last several years should have been the way they are outside of the playoffs or having a 27 nothing lead you know justin herbert did had a 27 nothing lead yeah so does he have elite physical tools yes but elite we ask elite players to do it on a consistent basis and that's when and he hasn't done it on a consistent enough basis for me before the game aaron rogers was on the field doing three step drops seven weeks after Nikili's tendon surgery. Rodgers is trying to return this season. The Jets are currently 4-4 outside the AFC playoff picture. What are your thoughts on A-Rod dropping back, planning, not hard,
Starting point is 00:12:59 but he is doing some soft toss, spinning the football. I like it. I like it. It's a testament to his rehab. It's a testament to the science that he believes in, the doctors that he works with. But Aaron Rodgers and the thoughts of him actually coming back to play this year. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:13:15 It's ridiculous. No, you prepare yourself. You prepare yourself for next year because if you come back and think you won't come out here after such a short amount of time with an Achilles, you're going to rupture it again because you're going to be running. You're going to be running for your life. It's a ridiculous story. I do like the enthusiasm to want to come back and play and show that you can recover in a very, very fast way, but that you do yourself more harm than good
Starting point is 00:13:41 and hurt the team even more. so you think he should probably temper it down a little bit and and and wait until next year because you think he'll do more harm than good yeah and i don't think honestly i don't think we'll be coming back to play this year anyway i think just giving the fans excitement and the hope that he could or that he would is in there's a possibility of it but him actually doing it i i don't i don't think so i don't think so because in such a short amount of time there there are three injuries there are a few there are a few injuries you don't want to play with that you don't want to play with that achilles right anything got to do with the hamstring anything to do with the groin true them three
Starting point is 00:14:21 yeah don't i don't play with sugar like that don't do that don't play with sugar like that man don't don't do that man let let your body heal all the way right man a key uh also acls all that trying to come back early and you know it's not stable and you don't feel stable nah man don't do that don't do that bro i saw jerry rice Rice tear his ACL in week one in 97. Right. And he played against us week 13. What? Called two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You think it was a full tear or was it maybe MCL? What you think? They say they replaced it with a cadaver. With a cadaver. Yeah. So the same thing, basically the same thing that Aaron Rodgers got, right? Well, I think they did. They what do they what do they call that surgery that they are that they did on a rod?
Starting point is 00:15:10 They are reinforced with some. They just don't attend to the doctor. Right. My my producers is looking it up right now. I'm looking it up also. It's called a speed bridge. Speed bridge. OK, so it's it's It's called a speed bridge. Speed bridge.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Okay. So it's supposed to speed the healing up from anywhere between two and four months. So normally what would be a, you know, nine to 12 month injury. Now you might be talking somewhere five to eight months. Yeah, but that's still too,
Starting point is 00:15:42 that's still too much. That's still too much. I know technology is very, very, very far in advance in this day and age. But to say you're going to come back from an ACL or say you're going to come back
Starting point is 00:15:52 from a torn Achilles in such a short amount of time. I know science is beautiful, but it's one thing about human nature. Human nature do not play. Human nature do not play. Human nature do not play. You say science. Aaron Rodgers believe in science? Oh, let's leave that alone.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Let's leave that alone. Let's leave that alone. We're going to move it along. Okay, how about this here? The AFC Power Rangers. You like the Ravens or you like the Chiefs at the top of the pie chart? That's tough. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Listen,
Starting point is 00:16:25 both teams are 7-2. Patrick Mahomes obviously 17 TDs like the Chiefs at the top of the pie chart. Hey, that's tough. That's a tough one. That's a tough one. Listen, let me see. Both teams are 7-2. Patrick Mahomes, obviously, 17 TDs to Lamar Jackson, what, 9 TDs. Yes. The Ravens' offense averaging 26 points a game. The Chiefs' offense averaging 23 points a game. The Ravens' defense, obviously, you know, the best in the league, only allowing 13 points a game. I'm not sure what the Chiefs defense allows.
Starting point is 00:16:49 But if I was leaning towards a team as far as the best in the AFC right now, I'm going to go, and it pains me to say this, and I'm just, where they are right now, what I consider the midway point in the NFL, power ranking for the AFC at the top right now is the Ravens. And that hurts. That hurts me to have to admit that, because you know my allegiance is to the Bengals. But what the Ravens are doing, not only offensively, but what they're doing defensively in this era.
Starting point is 00:17:14 In this era is unheard of, man. We in a past happy era. If you run 100 plays and you play 14, 80 of them goddamn plays is through the air. And you mean to tell me you're only allowing teams 13 goddamn points? 13? Shit. Listen, I love the Chiefs. I love Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:17:34 I love what they've been able to do. He's a two-time Super Bowl winner. He's an MVP winner as is Lamar Jackson. But what Lamar and those Ravens are doing over there, man, is special. And I can't wait. And I know I'm going, man, is special. And I can't wait. And I know I'm going off track here a little bit. I can't wait two more weeks.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Two more weeks. You know who they're playing, right? The Bengals go to the Ravens? Thursday night football. November 16th, if I'm not mistaken. I hate that. What? Because I don't want them
Starting point is 00:18:05 on a short week. That day should be on a full week of rest. Okay, okay. They should play Sunday to Sunday or Sunday to Monday. That's what that should be. I have a question.
Starting point is 00:18:13 You would know better than I do. Can they flex that? Can they flex that to Sunday and change? No. You can flex out of Sunday. You can't flex out of Monday. So what is Monday?
Starting point is 00:18:24 Whatever the Monday game is. No, it's Thursday though. It's a Thursday night game. I mean, you know what I'm saying? You can flex out of Sunday you can't flex out of Monday so what is Monday whatever the Monday game is it's Thursday though it's a Thursday night game I mean you can flex you can flex out of a Sunday night and I think you can flex can you flex out of Monday
Starting point is 00:18:33 I don't think you can flex out I think it's just Sunday I think it's the NBC game that you can flex out of but you can't do anything with Thursday and Monday night I agree with you Ocho Ravens are 7-2
Starting point is 00:18:42 run 4 straight they have a plus 115 point differential, which is the biggest in football by a wide margin. And here's the thing. Just imagine how good the Raiders are going to be when they eliminate the weekly 1-2 turnovers game. Just think about that.
Starting point is 00:19:00 Yeah. Yeah. To play a clean game. Because we talked about it, Ocho, now. Yeah. Yeah. To play a clean game. Because we talked about it, Ocho, is that when you turn the ball over, you either raise the team up to your level or
Starting point is 00:19:13 you stoop down to their level. Right. Because if you're better than a team, the only way a team can get up to your level is you come down to theirs. It's kind of like you're in a fight. That's why, Ocho, is that when people, when you's kind of like you're gonna fight that's that's why ocho is that when when people when you're up here and and you reach a certain level and people take shots at you steve harvey told me this he's like the only way they can hit me if i come down to
Starting point is 00:19:35 their level i'm so high up they throwing up right right right it's hard to be accurate throwing up here but the only time they can get me is when I come down to their level. They can crack me upside my head. When you turn the ball over, you're better than a team, you come down to their level. Now they can get you. When you think about it,
Starting point is 00:19:54 and I look at it from this standpoint as well, based on where they are right now, and another testament to where they'll be after the midway point is I look at
Starting point is 00:20:02 the remaining schedules. Obviously, the Chiefs have the Eagles. Ugh. We don't know what schedules. Obviously, the Chiefs have the Eagles. We don't know what's going to happen there. They got the Eagles, Raiders, Packers, Bills, Patriots. That's their five coming up. That's their next. Well, yeah, that's their five coming up.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So, boom, looking at the Ravens. The Ravens remaining schedule on teams or teams that they're going to play that are possible wins. They got the Browns, Bengals. That's a loss. They got the Chargers, Rams, Jaguars. So out of that, that's four games. The Ravens, the Ravens sitting pretty. The Ravens got their mind on the number one seed.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Yeah, most definitely. Right now, based on their next five games, they going four and one. They going four and one in the next five games. So they going four and one. They're going four and one in those next five games. So they're going to be sitting real nice and pretty. But come November 16th, they're probably going to lose that one.
Starting point is 00:20:52 They ain't losing that one. The Baltimore want the road to Las Vegas to go through has to take a detour through Baltimore. So in order to go west, you got to go, you got to go,
Starting point is 00:21:02 you got to go well. Theoretically, Baltimore is the south because it falls below the Mason-Dixon line. Although they don't want to believe that. They don't want to think they're in the South. They are. But they want, instead of just going West, have it go through the Midwest, Kansas City, Cincinnati. It's like, nah, come on to the South. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah. So it's going to be very interesting. But that schedule, nah, come on to the side. Yeah. Yeah. So it's going to be very interesting. But that schedule, they have a very favorable schedule. Although the Jags, the Jags ain't nothing to be played with. The Jags ain't nothing to be played with. But you know what it comes down to? If you play chess, if you play a game of chess, it's all about being able to make the best move with the pieces that you have.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And you look at the chessboard, I'm talking about the rosters of the best move with the pieces that you have. You look at the chessboard. I'm talking about the rosters of the teams. You look how they match up. The Jaguars are good. But it's one thing about the Ravens. Defensively, across the board. Offensively, we can argue about the quarterbacks. Two different playing styles.
Starting point is 00:22:01 We can argue about the receivers. Obviously, I would give the edge to Calvin Ridley and what they have over there offensively. But the Ravens is special, man. The Ravens is special. And they showed that since week one. And I'm not taking anything away from the Jaguars and what they've done so far this season because Trevor Lawrence has been spectacular. Travis Etienne has been spectacular. Calvin Ridley has been good.
Starting point is 00:22:23 But the Ravens, man, it's just different. It's not like they're going to come and play the Jaguars, and then the Ravens that are allowing only 13 points a game, all of a sudden, they're just going to fall apart. That's not going to happen, because as the season goes on, you continue to get better. The chemistry, you gel that much better offensively, and all you got to do is read and react. Read and react. It's extremely, I don't want to say it's simple. I'm not going to do that. But you know what I mean.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Yeah. Ocho, today I had a great time. First take was on the road at my alma mater, Savannah State, and they laid out the red carpet for me. Yeah, I saw that. They had a big old welcome sign as soon as I turned onto the campus. They had all these monitors and showing a lot of my career, some of it at Denver, some of it at Savannah State.
Starting point is 00:23:12 And when I got to the arena, the student body and all the athletic teams and the band and the major res and everything. It was just so great to know that my school, one of their homes, they could see. Because what that does is that it lets them know that he saw these
Starting point is 00:23:38 classes that we saw there. And look where he got. We can achieve anything. We can get to anywhere because of he did it. And that's what it was with my brother. I saw everything
Starting point is 00:23:50 that my brother did. He ate the same food. He slept in the same raggedy house that I did. If he got a college scholarship, I could. If he can go to the NFL, I can.
Starting point is 00:24:00 If he can make millions, I can. That's how I thought about it. And hopefully that was some, the kids got an opportunity, the student got an opportunity and they get some kind of motivation, some type of inspiration
Starting point is 00:24:13 and say, you know what? One of our own from Savannah State. Because if you look at it, Ocho, three of the most prominent voices on morning television attended HBCUs. Myself, Michael Strahan and Stephen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:29 So if that's not, if that's not, uh, uh, inspirational or aspirational enough, I don't really know what it is, but to have them there, man, it was,
Starting point is 00:24:38 man, the building was electric. Yeah. I saw it. It was absolutely. Especially when you, when you came in, they,
Starting point is 00:24:43 they, they was, they was hype. They had me excited. I saw it. It was absolutely amazing. Especially when you came in. They was hype. Yeah, you boy was hype. They had me excited. You boy was hype. I just thought about something, too. You had the opportunity to have your brother on the show.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Yeah, man. And that was live. That was live. I haven't had the opportunity to see or meet Sterling before. But that was a great moment, man, to be able to see him, to have him share that moment with you was awesome. My my sister was there. My high school coach was there. One of the one of the professors that taught me developmental studies was there. Dr. Green, some of my classmates, some of the guys that came in with me
Starting point is 00:25:25 we call our class 86 because we all came in in 1986 and to see some of those guys and to get back because i don't get an opportunity to get back much i don't see them much right my homeboy uh bucket he was the first one bucket was the one that had the club shea hoodie on that's bucket uh big daddy pastor ford i told him said, you know what, Big Daddy, I ain't going to call you. We ain't going to call you Big Daddy. We're going to call you Pastor Ford out of respect. But you know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:25:52 But it was really great to get back and see the student body and they turned up. So SSU, I really thank you for the love and support that you've given me. Since I attended Savannah State, went in in 1986, got my degree in 1991 and all the love and support that you've given me. Since I attended Savannah State, went in in 1986, got my degree in 1991, and all the love and support that you've given me ever since then. So thank you, thank you, thank you.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Let's jump into this. Chase Young said, it's a different vibe with the 49ers. I'm in the building with winners. And my only question, what does the 49ers want, Ocho? Maybe I missed it. I'm a historian of the game. You have to understand what he's saying from a player standpoint.
Starting point is 00:26:27 He's on a winning team. A winning team of a team that is always in contention year in and year out. They haven't won a Super Bowl. It's been a very, very, very, very, very long time since they...
Starting point is 00:26:36 Oh, sorry about that. Hold on. 94? Yeah, it's been a very long time since they won a Super Bowl. But what he did go to is he went to a team coming hella high water.
Starting point is 00:26:44 They're going to be in contention year in and year out. And I think being in that atmosphere, it's different. It's a different feel when you walk into that locker room and know that, you know what, we got a chance to do something special. I'm a part of something that is consistent and aligned with winning. And for that, I mean, that's why he said what he said. And obviously we know what the outcome was over in Washington. They just haven't been aligned with those same principles and values or opportunities to win in a very long time.
Starting point is 00:27:18 I think the thing is the stuff with the owner and all the black cloud that was hanging over that organization, I think it started to wear on them. This is what transpired this summer with the sale of the team probably should have happened a lot sooner. But it's, it's tough. I've been in a situation I hadn't lost. I mean, I did lose some, I didn't win every year we didn't make the playoffs, but I can just imagine being in a situation
Starting point is 00:27:46 where like week four, week five, you're like, man, I season over. We ain't got no chance. And you think players tap out? Well, I think it's hard. It's the hardest thing to do
Starting point is 00:28:00 is to stay mentally focused when your quarterback is not up to par. Because you know what a chance with that guy, even if you don't have the greatest special teams, or you don't have a Devin Hester or Dante Hall, or you don't have the greatest defense, it doesn't have to be
Starting point is 00:28:18 85 Bears, 2,000 Ravens, or one of these historic great defenses. But when you have that guy, he gives you – you don't hope to win. You expect to win. And that's the difference.
Starting point is 00:28:34 See, the Jets, they have hope. If our defense don't give up X amount of points, they get pick six, they get scoop and score, we get a return. See, you hope it. Now, Kansas City don't hope. They expect. Joe Burrow don't hope. They expect. You see the difference? Yeah, but when you look at it, when you look at the landscape of the NFL, there are 32 teams.
Starting point is 00:28:52 How many NFL teams out of that 32 expect to win based on the quarterback play? There are very few quarterbacks in the NFL where you know going into every game, we expect to win. Mahomes, Burrow, Josh Allen, going into every game, we expect to win. Mahomes, Burrow. Burrow.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Josh Allen. Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson. Jalen Hurts. Jalen Hurts. Okay, where we at after that? Where we at after that? Think about it.
Starting point is 00:29:16 I mean, realistically. Like, let's think about it. It's a toss-up. Yeah. I mean, I think, like, right under that, based on what they've done, you know, under Dan Campbell, we got the Lions. Jerry Goff.
Starting point is 00:29:28 We got Goff. You expect to win. It's based on what you're doing so far and how that organization has turned around. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And it's always been like this. People want to make it seem like, oh, no,
Starting point is 00:29:40 there was always only a handful of quarterbacks in the NFL. There was always the elite. You had five or six guys. You had your Elways, your Marinos, your Montanas. You had those guys. And then, you know, you had some guys that were on teams that were really good and they got elevated. But right now it's the same way.
Starting point is 00:29:59 There's only a handful of guys that you go out there and their team expect to win. And like you said i think you ran off a couple of the names uh i look at it ocho and the thing is that i got uh i was a free agent in in 2000 and i went to the ravens and i won my third super bowl in four years damn um but lucky but the way i approached it the way i approached it ocho is that they didn't care that I won I mean what did me having seven Pro Bowls
Starting point is 00:30:29 you know I went to seven Pro Bowls in eight years I was four time first team all pro I ain't do none of that for the Ravens right
Starting point is 00:30:36 I needed to go in there and show them how and why I was there right how and why I was able to be one of the predominant voices
Starting point is 00:30:45 in the locker room and to win. And so that's what you do. You don't go in there and think you're better than anybody else because at that point in time, you have accomplished more than anybody else. Well, let me show you what I do.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I'm in the weight room. On Tuesdays on my day off, I'm over here getting it in. I'm prepared. Watch the way I eat. I bring my food because that way, because see,
Starting point is 00:31:06 when you go to the cafeteria, that was before they had, everybody had these, they got chefs now and they'll prepare your salmon and they'll prepare whatever. I say, and they asked me,
Starting point is 00:31:16 they say, well, Shannon, why do you bring your food? I say, I bring my food because this food is prepared for one. They're preparing food for 200.
Starting point is 00:31:24 So they're going to put salt. They're going to put this. They're preparing food for 200. So they're going to put salt, they're going to put this, they're going to put that. I know exactly to the amount of how much carbs is in there, how much protein, how much fat, how much everything
Starting point is 00:31:34 to the umpteenth degree. Yeah, that was a little different. That was a little different, but it worked for you. I mean, you did what worked for you and I did what worked for me, but... Ocho, I used to... Ocho, I was worse than you, Ocho. What do you mean? I mean, you did what worked for you and I did what worked for me, but. Ocho, I used to, Ocho, I was worse than you, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:31:47 What do you mean? I mean, my rookie year, I ate fast food every single meal. Okay, that was me. I ate Burger King for breakfast. It normally like Kentucky Fried or some bull jive for lunch and I grabbed Dairy Queen on the way home.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Why'd you stop though? Because if it's not broke, if it's not broke, no need to fix it. It was broke. And then once I cleaned up my diet, I went to Sam's Straight Pro Bowls and 4 First Team All Pros. I went to 6 Pro Bowls and I went to 4
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Starting point is 00:36:21 Midseason awards. What's the scariest team right now in the NFL? We're going to go AFC or the NFL? NFL. NFL. Scariest team. Shoot, Ray Charles can see that. Shit, the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:36:35 It hurts you, though. Yeah. It hurts you to say that. It hurt me to say that, but I'm going to be realistic. I'm going to be realistic. I'm not going to sit here and play around and try to make a joke. It's the Ravens. They are the scariest team in the NFL right now on both sides of the goddamn ball.
Starting point is 00:36:51 In two weeks, they're going to give y'all a death blow. That ain't going to happen, though. I guarantee that ain't going to happen. Listen, the Ravens are averaging 26 points per game, only allowing 13. I've already mentioned that. It's the lowest in the NFL. They are the scariest team out there right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Most disappointing team. I'm going to say the Chargers. I'm going to say the Chargers. They went to the playoffs last year. Obviously, they have high expectations. You said he looks like
Starting point is 00:37:15 an elite quarterback, but he's not playing that way. He's, what, 29 and 28 as a starter for the Chargers. Obviously, losing Mike Williams and Josh Palmer, it was hurtful for them, you know, and impacting their offense. But again, when you have quarterbacks that look elite
Starting point is 00:37:31 and you're expecting them to play to that level, losing players at that magnitude, nothing should change because we expect you to make up and overcome those injuries. And they're 500 now, obviously, because of tonight's win. But 4-4 at the midway point? Or is it 5-4? I think they're 5-4. Yeah, they're 500 now, obviously, because of tonight's win. But 4-4 at the midway point? Or is it 5-4? I think they're 5-4. Yeah, they're 5-4?
Starting point is 00:37:49 What's the Chargers' record? I thought they came in at 3-4. Am I tripping? They might be. Because I don't think they've had their bye yet. Okay, okay. Because if they haven't had their bye, they played 8 games. If they...
Starting point is 00:38:04 Huh? They're 4-4. Okay, so I was right. I was right. Yeah, they played eight games. If they – Huh? The four and four. So I was right. I was right. They were coming in three and four, so now they're right at 500. But I think it would be disappointing unless they just make this dramatic turnaround from here going forward and make the playoffs again. But that would probably be my most disappointment
Starting point is 00:38:21 because I expected them to be in the running the way I view and the standard that I hold the way he, the eye test the way Herbert looks and how I'm expecting him to play, the team is just not looking like that for me my most disappointing
Starting point is 00:38:38 is Buffalo and I know they got a winning record but I expected them to be better. I mean, they've been selling us. They've been selling us. It's three quarterbacks in the league that, I mean, basically, it's Josh Allen, it's Joe Burrow, and it's Patrick Mahomes.
Starting point is 00:38:57 And Josh Allen hasn't carried his weight in that argument. And I said this today on first take, we've got to stop allowing Josh Allen to live on those two games that he played against Patrick Mahomes. You remember that divisional round? Oh, yeah. And they went back and forth, and they went back and forth, and he scored with this many seconds, and Patrick Mahomes come back and scored,
Starting point is 00:39:18 and then he came back and scored, and Patrick Mahomes came back and scored, and Patrick outdoed him. And it's like, you know what? We've got our next great rivalry in the quarterback division in the NFL. And then the next year, he goes back to Kansas City
Starting point is 00:39:33 and he gets his revenge because he take down Patrick Mahomes in the Sunday night game. And everybody says, Josh Allen, Josh Allen. But he allowed Cincinnati to come in there and put foots in it. What you thought was going to happen?
Starting point is 00:39:46 I told you that. I told you that weeks ago. I said, when Joe Burrow gets back healthy, it's going to be hell for the rest of the NFL. No, no. No, I'm talking about last year in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Almost definitely. That's what it's going to be. It's going to be like that from now on. And Ocho, he continuously turns the effing ball over. He's a turnover machine. He got a limited turnover because he's a gunslinger. He's a gunslinger. He has the arm strength to be able to get away with it like Brett Favre at times.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Sometimes you don't want to take that willingness of a quarterback of that magnitude with the arm like that. Because nine times out of ten, most of the time, he's going to make those throws and create special plays that are not textbook-style plays. But right now, it's hurting him. And he is a turnover machine. Some of the greatest quarterbacks in the game were turnover machines when they rely on their arm talent to get them by. I don't mind you. them by. You know what I'm saying? I don't mind you. Okay, go ahead. No, you go first.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I was getting ready to talk about another team that would be an honorable mention as the most disappointing, but I'm going to let you finish yours. But the thing is that there are risks and then there's unnecessary risks. Right, right, right, right. Why in the red zone will you take the unnecessary risk? Why would you try to force a ball on first or second down when you don't have to? That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:41:11 He's reckless with the football. And come playoff time, you start to play. As you go along, you play double for turnover. Yeah. And it's so debilitating. It so sucks the life out of you because you're like, oh, here we go, and everybody's excited, and the crowd's excited. And because you're like oh here we go and everybody's inside and the crowd's excited and then you're like uh again bro so he he's gonna but milano
Starting point is 00:41:32 going out jordavius white going out has really done something to that milano is milano the real deal boy he was the real deal he was the real deal but what was the real deal. But what about this? What about what you always say? How you say, field goals is not enough and that'll get you beat. No, no, no. Kicking and kicking. Turnovers are even worse.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Okay. Because at least you get some points. Right. Is that when you don't score, you get zero points. And that's the problem. And that's the thing with a turnover. I mean, think about how many times
Starting point is 00:42:05 last year he turned the ball over in the red zone, in the end zone. He was throwing picks in the end zone. He was fumbling the ball in the red zone. So you're already
Starting point is 00:42:12 in field goal position and you turned the ball over. That's very, very difficult to overcome. Now, who are you going to say your honorable mention for teams that have been
Starting point is 00:42:21 disappointing, obviously to the main waypoint, I want to know your thoughts. What about the Bears? Obviously, they last in NFC right now. They're currently 2-7. I'm not sure what their expectations were at the beginning
Starting point is 00:42:31 of the season. I mean, we're not condemning them to have been a playoff team. Obviously, Justin Fields going into his third? It's his third year. Fourth year. Fourth year. It's fourth year already? God damn, I'm getting old. Third? It's third. Okay, God damn, I'm getting old. Yeah, I think it's fourth year.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Third? It's third. Okay, yeah. Well, don't scare me like that. You adding years on my life. Yeah, it's third year. Obviously, your third year is your coming out year. It's a year where you either arrive or you don't. And I was expecting them, obviously, he's been hurt,
Starting point is 00:43:02 but I was expecting them to have a much better season than what they're having. Obviously, with Justin being injured, it's kind of hard to make a fair assessment. But again, they're still 2-7. And for them, it's been very disappointing for me because I'm waiting for them to have that turnaround game, especially with their offseason acquisitions that they've had.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Well, I don't think it's going to try. I mean, he broke his thumb or dislocated his thumb or something. So, you know, and it's on his throwing hand. It's hard to throw the football without the thumb. I mean, first of all, you can't even play. Yeah. I don't even know how you play football without a thumb. And if it's broken, it's hard to do a whole lot of things without a thumb.
Starting point is 00:43:41 I mean, it can be done. But probably playing sports at that level is probably not possible. Let me ask you this. Your most impressive coaching job. Oh, this is easy. D'Amico Ryans. Easy. Yeah, that's exactly where it goes.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah. Easy. Listen, he went to a Texan team. A Texan team that are now 4-4, right? Last year, defensively, you know, D'Amico Ryans is a defensive-minded coach. Defensively, they were ranked 27th. Now, they're currently ranked 14th. 14th.
Starting point is 00:44:12 They already have four. Obviously, they already have four wins, but nine remaining. Man, C.J. Stroud. C.J., whoever's responsible for drafting C.J. Stroud, man, may God bless you. Man, that young fella, man,
Starting point is 00:44:24 playing some goddamn ball, man. Some goddamn ball as a rookie quarterback. Acting like he been here before. He been here before. Like my grandma used to say. I will agree with D'Amico Ryan being the most impressive
Starting point is 00:44:39 coaching job. Who's your most surprising player? This one should be an easy one too, Ocho. Most surprising player? So rookie, veteran, it doesn't matter? In general, throughout the whole league? It doesn't matter. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Ah. You say it should be easy? It should be easy. You just spoke his name. CJ Shroud. Yes! Okay, okay, okay, yeah. I was going to say, because what he's doing as
Starting point is 00:45:07 a quarterback, as a rookie, on a team that hasn't had any success at that position outside of my dog outside of Deshaun Watson, and he is playing the most stupid 500 yards. He had five
Starting point is 00:45:23 touchdowns as a rookie. As a rookie. Uh-huh. As a rookie. Yeah. What, uh, well, who's your honorable mention?
Starting point is 00:45:33 Honorable mention? And you love this guy, too. This your guy. All you was doing for like the first five weeks of the season. This all you talked about.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Puka. Oh, P you talked about. Puka. Oh, Puka Nakua. Hey, Puka, Puka been balling. That's your guy. Yeah, that's my guy. And I have a great question. And I'm going to say what Puka's been doing has been fucking phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:45:58 But is Puka that good or is he a product of his system? That's a great question that I'd like to ask you because you would know better than I. When I think about the NFL in general, I look at your Garrett Wilsons and your Calvin Ridley's and, ah, come on, slipping my mind, the tight end for the Falcons. Oh, Kyle Pitts. Kyle Pitts. How is the Rams and Puga Nua able to find success like that?
Starting point is 00:46:28 And you have elite talent like Kyle Pitts that's not being used properly in Atlanta. Kyle really is having an okay season. But I can't, it's not jogging my memory right now. I should have had this taken down. I had no idea you were asking that question. But there are many teams when you go throughout the NFL, that have elite players that aren't being utilized properly. They're not being utilized properly.
Starting point is 00:46:53 But all of a sudden, we get to the Rams, and Puka Nakua, as a rookie, is sitting atop almost in every category, receiving-wise. Why is that? What does Puka have that Garrett Wilson does? Quarterback. You see Calvin Ridley has a quarterback also. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:12 You know? Fingered ball. You like the guy, Trevor Lawrence. Yeah. And you look at Garrett Wilson, who he has throwing him the ball. I mean, it takes a really, really special guy. I mean, the only guy that's off the top of my head that has some, some,
Starting point is 00:47:26 some, some average to below average quarterbacks and still go get, and still go eat was D hop when he was at the Texas. Oh yeah. Cause he had Brock Osweiler. He had got case Keenum. It didn't matter. Don't care.
Starting point is 00:47:38 He was still going to go get four. He still was going to go get 1400. Everything. Catch it. Everything. Yeah. And then when you saw when he got, uh, Deshaun. Everything. Catching everything. Yeah. And then you saw when he got Deshaun.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Yeah. So, but I think the thing is that the quarterback play, Sean McVay does a great job. Think about it. I mean, when you look at a guy, I mean, when you look at what's the guy? Cooper Cupp. He doesn't blow you
Starting point is 00:48:03 away. He's not, I mean, but Sean McVay did a great job scheming him up for the Triple Crown. Yeah. And he was a Cooper Cup, man. That Triple Crown, yeah, man. That was, that was art. I believe, I believe,
Starting point is 00:48:17 I believe, I believe that's the, he had the greatest single receiving season. When you look at it in its totality, with the amount of catches, with the amount of yards. When you look at it in its totality, with the amount of catches, with the amount of yards, and you look at the playoffs, he was Offensive Player of the Year and he was Super Bowl MVP.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I believe he had the greatest receiver for a receiver. Over 2,000 total yards receiving. I mean, ain't no telling how many catches. I think he had like 170, maybe 170 catches. An OPY and a Super Bowl MVP. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Now, I think Jerry did the same thing in, no, what year? No, that was. The 85 year. I think you're talking about. No. 85. Jerry was a rookie in 85. The Bears won in 85.
Starting point is 00:49:05 The Giants won in 86. 87 was Washington. What year was the short year? We had them crazy. The season was a little short. He had that crazy year. That was 87. Okay, 87.
Starting point is 00:49:18 87. That's when he had, in 12 games, he had 22 touchdowns. Yeah, man. And then he won Offensive Player of the Year. And then in 88, the next year, he won Super Bowl MVP when he went crazy on Cincinnati. You ain't had to throw that
Starting point is 00:49:34 in there. You ain't had to throw that in there. Hey, I don't know if you've heard this. There's an insecure actress, comedian named Yvonne Orji. Yeah. Has never been say she a
Starting point is 00:49:46 39 year old virgin. Uh huh. Say she went and say you know she's been buried you know she gonna she gonna wait but when her husband when she get all that
Starting point is 00:49:54 she gonna be wooing and wooing make his head pop off. And the funny thing about you mentioned that and that was one of the topics for the night and I tweeted
Starting point is 00:50:01 I tweeted you earlier today about her. I tweeted I didn't tweet you, but I tweeted my followers. I said, listen, what y'all think about this God-fearing woman who has herself aligned in the right places
Starting point is 00:50:13 being unionized with Unk? Because she would be perfect for you and what you have going on. Not only is she walking the path of righteousness, but she has the vision that can open the door where you trying to get to. Now, what you think about that? I'm looking for a sinner. Huh?
Starting point is 00:50:31 I'm looking for a sinner. I'm looking for a sinner. Send me Miss Nasty B. What her name was? What did you say? I would need an umbrella? Miss Nasty B? Yeah, yeah, I'm looking for I don't want nobody walking in the straight and narrow. No? Nah, nah, I'm looking for... I don't want nobody walking in the straight and narrow. No?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Nah, nah, I want a sinner. So, listen, I thought... That's what I'm looking for. That's what I'm looking for. Listen, we always talk about toxic relationships or toxic environments, and now you have
Starting point is 00:50:58 a perfect opportunity. You have the perfect opportunity to get you somebody that is aligned with your core values in the way you was raised by your grandma. You was raised in a church, right?
Starting point is 00:51:09 Yeah. You was raised in a church? Well, this is a God-fearing woman. This is exactly what grandma would want. This is what I want for you. This is what I want for you, man. I'm telling you,
Starting point is 00:51:18 this will prepare you into a world you've never been before. Is that what it's going to do? You flew private today, right? I did? Yeah. Because you sent me a video boast about it.
Starting point is 00:51:34 But think about it. Think about you on that private jet with Yvonne and y'all going over the word, going to your next destination. Y'all having prayer and Bible study together before you got to go on first take. Think about that. Think about before you and her, before you do Nightcap with Uncle Nocho, me, you and Yvonne. We have prayer right before we do each show.
Starting point is 00:51:58 Stay with me now. Y'all do? Yeah, stay with me. I'm telling you, you need a woman like that in your life. Yeah. Give me Ms. Nasty B. I have the Bible right there by my bed. Lord, forgive me for what I'm telling you, you need a woman like that in your life. Yeah. Give me Miss Nasty B. I have the Bible right there by my bed. Lord, forgive me for what I'm about to do.
Starting point is 00:52:18 Man, let me play. Lord, I'm sorry. Hey, I'm a bit foolish. See, you always on some bull jive. She appeared on Chance the Hatter podcast. Whether she's still a virgin
Starting point is 00:52:31 to which she answered yes. She jokingly asked her listeners to pray for her future partner because the weight has left her with a great deal of pent up energy. Many fans commented
Starting point is 00:52:40 how hard it is to believe that at 39 she's still a virgin. Especially as many sex scenes the actress has had on HBO. You got your working woman, too. You got your working woman. She's been on HBO.
Starting point is 00:52:54 Huh? And I ain't talking about helping a brother out. Can't you work her hips? Can't you work her hips? Yeah. Yes, you can. I'll make enough money
Starting point is 00:53:01 for the both of them. You had to see, you had to talk to God at the gates now. I was, you know, I'm going to ask for forgiveness. He said, there ain't nothing
Starting point is 00:53:15 he won't forgive you for. Right. All right. I'm going to let you slide at night. But listen, think about it. Ain't nothing,
Starting point is 00:53:22 how do you feel about having a woman that's pure? Do you have the patience for that? No. What? No. So when you say you want your woman seasoned, you have a problem with it being rare and unseasoned.
Starting point is 00:53:42 I'm going to put it to you like this. And I'm not... Listeners, please don't take this, I'm going to put it to you like this. Yes, sir. And I'm not... Listeners, don't... Please don't take this because I'm not comparing a woman to a car. Yeah. But you know,
Starting point is 00:53:52 there's not a... I've never test driven a car that I bought. I see the car, I was like, I want that car. Right. Go pick it up. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:01 Wait, you don't test drive? I mean... You don't test drive first? Nope. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You've been in a relationship before, right? I am. Do you initiate a relationship with a woman before you even have horizontal activity with her? How do you do that? Because if the horizontal activity is not up to par in what it should be,
Starting point is 00:54:25 that's really the deal breaker for 95% of the people that are in relationships if it ain't geared towards money. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, money. You can't make enough money to keep me that right
Starting point is 00:54:37 if the nightly duties ain't correct. Come on, pastor. Ain't no sense of wasting, ain't no sense of wasting my time. Come on, pastor. You can overlook, wasting ain't no sense of wasting my time come on pastor you can overlook you can overlook a lot of things
Starting point is 00:54:49 right I don't know if bad sex is one of them yeah yeah I mean you ain't gotta be able to cook
Starting point is 00:54:56 yeah I don't care about no cooking either I don't yeah you ain't gotta look if you choose to work that's on you you want your own little thing so you don't have to
Starting point is 00:55:04 come from me to everything that's cool too see you're a good dude yeah i like that ain't too many it's ain't too many yeah i like you i like that that's that's dope so whoever you do date they don't have to work they can choose to work if they want to yeah yeah oh that's live that's live but oh boy you're a catch boy and i'm gonna find somebody for you before we get to december i'm gonna find you a good woman to me this is a good woman this is the type of woman that that like not saying you can mold her but anyone that walks in the feet of christ is what you need. That's what you need.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Well, I tell you what, I'm going to have God on one side, I'm holding his hand, and Miss Nasty be on the other side, I'm in the middle. We walking down the street.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Come on, man. Come on, man. Listen, man, you're going to drown, man. That ain't nothing to play with. But you're going to drown. You know you're here. Let me stop
Starting point is 00:56:03 because people are going to be thinking, man, Unc done slid that woman down. No, no. We know, you're here. Let me stop because people are going to be thinking, man, Uncle done slid that woman down. No, no. We know, listen, if you did slide in a DM, you wouldn't be mentioning her name right now. So we know you didn't do that. You know, we know you didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:56:13 But again, there's two sides of the spectrum. You know, you want to, you want to, you want the rain shower or you want the holy water? Where you want to go?
Starting point is 00:56:23 You know what? You want the rain shower or you want the holy water? Where you want to go? You know what? You want the rain shower or you want the holy water? Which one you want? You know what? A little, well, ain't nothing like a little warm rain water, is it? You know, you from Florida. I'm from South Georgia. One of them old pop-ups done the storm. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:37 And that rain is nice and warm. Yeah. Woo! You're right. I know what you're talking about. I'm with you. I'm with you when you're right. I'm with you when you're right. I like what you're talking about. I'm with you. I'm with you when you right. I'm with you when you right. I like when you going with that. That show nice. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You know, nice. You go to the shower, you don't want it too hot. I mean, sometimes they have it in there and it's so hot, like they cook it last. Nah, nah, I want it nice. I want it nice and warm. Just warm as you stand there. Not just sitting there like just, oh man, it's so good. It's so good.
Starting point is 00:57:03 See, that, you see, you I just sit there like, just, oh, man, it's so good. It's so good. See, that, you see, you, that right there, when the rain, the warm rain you talking about, that ain't here for a long time. That's here for a good time. That holy water, that's that long vision.
Starting point is 00:57:19 That's that long term, you know, depending on where you want to go. What path you trying to walk? Huh? Because, you know, you know you end up to go, what path you trying to walk? Huh? Because, you know, you know, you end up with the devil. I ain't going to preach today, though. I ain't going to preach today.
Starting point is 00:57:40 You know, sometimes, sometimes, you know, God send people into your life. Not only can they change you, but you can can change them yeah yeah that might be the case yeah stay with me now i might be i might be ordained wait hold on when you talk about being ordained gracious and holy heavenly father yeah i come to thee in the most humble way i know how bowed head humble heart on bit me yes realizing that your lord that you're Lord of Lords, King of Kings. Sit high. Look slow. Forgive me. Sir.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Arjo, have you seen this? There's a viral video going of a man punching a woman's seat. She's sitting in front of him and she reclined her seat and he continuously punches. Punches the seat, yeah. Did you see that?
Starting point is 00:58:28 Yeah, on the plane. And so are people allowed to recline their seat? Well, obviously, if people weren't allowed to recline their seat, they wouldn't have the goddamn budget.
Starting point is 00:58:37 It wouldn't recline. It wouldn't recline. But again, I think at different times, height, depending on how tall you are, maybe how short you are, maybe a little bit how wide you are. I think planes might need to make adjustments based on people's size, you know, because, you know, some of us are too tall, a little bit obese. And when people recline their seats, it hits your knees and it may make you uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:59:01 So I think maybe airlines and the FDA need to work in, you know, making stuff a little bit more comfortable for people of size. I don't know if that's going to help. No, the seats are getting smaller because they're trying to get more people on the plane. So I'm not trying to increase, I'm not trying to make you comfortable, I'm
Starting point is 00:59:20 trying to pack more people on. Okay, I see where you're going with this. I see where you're going with this. Bottom dollar at the end of the day. Right. Right. Right. That's why every time, what do they do?
Starting point is 00:59:30 They overbook the flight. Well, somebody going to give up their seat. Right. We'll give them a voucher, but we want to make sure we, we want to make sure we have as many of these seats occupied as we possibly can. But I,
Starting point is 00:59:41 I believe, I believe if he would have asked, ma'am, you're a little far back. Can you let your seat up some? I'm not saying you have to go all the way to the upright and fully locked position,
Starting point is 00:59:52 but can you just a little bit? Yeah. But to do, yeah, sometimes, like you said, in a situation like that, it's all about tone
Starting point is 00:59:59 and how you ask someone. Delivery. But me, now, well, first of all, you're not going to do that to my seat i'm gonna lay it all the way back all the way i'm gonna try i'm gonna try to i'm gonna try to break it so i'm laying in your lap i mean imagine just being disrespectful i mean come on but bro yeah i mean you i mean you you know you know and i've been on a plane with someone and she was sitting next to me and the guy reclined his seat.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Now, we hadn't taken off yet, but he had reclined his seat. And she's like, you can't recline the seat. Yeah, especially before you take off. You can't. Right. Look here, man. You ain't no flight attendant. Sit down.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And so, so he's like, OK, he let it. So once he got up in the air he let it back again all the way back she took both of her feet and kicked that seat so hard for real and he went boom he and it i said ma'am you could have just asked him i'm not in a quiet right right right you could have just asked him i said you didn't have to do that. Right. I said, he paid for that seat. I said, he's allowed to recline the seat. Just like if you wanted to recline yours,
Starting point is 01:01:12 you could be reclining yours. She looked at me. She ain't say anything. By halfway through the flight, she's, she's giving me a note. You're right. I'm sorry. Thank you for having patience with me.
Starting point is 01:01:25 And, uh, I mean, that's what the note was reading. I see you with a level head. So I'm thinking to myself, she write me a note. She can't talk. Ten minutes later, she touched me on the arm. So what's your name? Why the hell you give me a
Starting point is 01:01:44 note? You could have just told me what you give me a note? You could have just told me what you wrote in the note. You could have just told me that. Right, right, right, right. I think the lady can't talk. So now I'm feeling like, oh, man. But I'm saying,
Starting point is 01:01:55 even though she can't talk, she still didn't have a right to kick that man's ass. Yeah, yeah, right, right. She's lucky to have a bad day because sometimes you catch the right person on the wrong day and, uh-oh, ain't going to help.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Yeah, sure ain't. Sure ain't. So, why is this? Because we've seen these videos starting to go more and more viral. Everybody... Why is this such a controversy? I don't know. Everybody recording everything.
Starting point is 01:02:20 So, what's going on with the plane? They're recording everything. They're recording everything. And then every time we turn around, there's something's going on with the plane? They're recording everything. They're recording everything. And then every time we turn around, there's something viral going on on the flight. It might be a fight, argument with the flight attendant or the stewardess.
Starting point is 01:02:34 There's always something. Always something. And everybody, and that's the era we in. Everybody got their phones out. So nothing is missed. Nothing is missed. For me, Ocho,
Starting point is 01:02:45 I don't want no problem I get on the plane I buckle my seatbelt as soon as I sit down I don't you know the only you know if I'm asleep
Starting point is 01:02:54 I tell them don't bother me don't ask me anything damn the one time I got really upset Ocho you rude I'm you know
Starting point is 01:03:00 Ocho I'm I'm you know I'm asleep this is before 9-11 I'm asleep I'm just the lady shakes me and wake me up
Starting point is 01:03:07 she shook you and woke me up yeah and guess what she asked me you want something to drink would you like dinner I said ma'am you woke me up
Starting point is 01:03:16 for this nasty ass food oh come on don't do that man that's not nice Ocho Ocho I mean I'm like Ocho I'm like
Starting point is 01:03:24 Ocho I'm like this here. You out of there. Yeah. Why you call the plane food nasty? I enjoy the food on the plane. I said, ma'am, in the future, if I'm asleep, I don't know if you'll ever
Starting point is 01:03:39 have me again, but please don't wake me up. Damn. Hunk, you mean, man. Now bring me that plate. You don't want me up. Damn. Hunk, you mean, man. Now bring me that plane. You don't want me up now. Then bring it to me. Nah, but I don't sleep on the plane now.
Starting point is 01:03:55 You flying private, so who gonna bother you on there? I sleep on the private plane, but when I don't fly private, I don't sleep. Oh, you don't fly private. I thought you did that all the time. I don't. Come on I don't sleep. Oh, you don't fly private. I thought you did that all the time. I don't. Come on back.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Thank you. Thank you. I pray. Come on back down to earth with us. What you need to do is you need to try spirit with me. You need to try spirit with me. Seat 18A.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I tried the spirit. That's why I went to church. The Holy Spirit get in me when I go to church. That's the Holy Spirit you better be talking about to me. I'm trying to help you. I'm trying to help you keep your money and keep
Starting point is 01:04:27 it a little longer. I know you got that train smoke money. They go back, but I'm trying to make sure you sustain that for a long period of time. It ain't going nowhere. I got you. I got you. I know it ain't. I know it ain't. It's all good.
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Starting point is 01:07:28 or wherever you get your podcasts. So, is that what you want? Let's go back to Yvonne Orji. I mean, before you met Ray. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. A lady says, well, Ocho, I'm saving myself a marriage. Oh, okay. Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:07:50 You buy the car. Mm-hmm. And the car don't drive like you thought it would. The handling is terrible. Mm-hmm. And now you stuck like a bass on the elevator. Mm-hmm. Then what you do?
Starting point is 01:08:06 Well, you know, I wasn't an honor student. I wasn't an academic scholar. So, therefore, I really wouldn't have the patience for teaching because that's not something that I like to do. Even if she's willing to learn. This man say he wasn't a Rhodes Scholar. Bro, you can barely read a road map. What you talking about? Yeah, I can't read it all.
Starting point is 01:08:32 I can't read it all. You can count? Yeah. Yeah. But hold on. I thought you said, but here's the thing, Ocho. You're not willing to teach someone that's willing to learn? I don't have the patience.
Starting point is 01:08:43 And what I know and what I've learned and the experience that i've had based on my experience and obviously you know at one point and i aren't we family and i'm and i feel like i can share this with y'all and i can share this with the people that are watching obviously when i was dancing in college you know to earn a living you know when, you know, stripping at the right track and, you know... Oh, you that old shake booty club. Yeah, man. Listen, I had to make a way. I had to make a living.
Starting point is 01:09:10 And then, you know, obviously there was a year I was ineligible at Santa Monica Junior College. I was ineligible that year. You know, I dabbled in amateur porn a little bit, you know.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I wasn't a professional, but I was an amateur. So can you think about me dating a virgin after having that type of lifestyle and then i gotta have patience you were f class porn star huh yeah no no c c class c class c class c class c class it's cool and it's amateur so it's not like it don't really get out there like yeah it was like yeah yeah yeah that before that before like the only fans and all the other sites yeah yeah yeah i get what you're saying that's why i support everybody that has only fan because at one point that used to be me you know you should be able to get my shit at blockbuster
Starting point is 01:09:57 that's probably why blockbuster went out of business instead of your porn tapes no no no no that's not why. That's not why. That was some, that was some good, that was some good footage. And I'm probably after this air, I know that shit going, it's going,
Starting point is 01:10:10 it's going, it's going to leak. They're going to peak back up. Yeah, it's going to leak. It's going to leak. And you know what happened when, when that leaked?
Starting point is 01:10:16 Yeah. The price is, Ooh, man, you might get a, you might get another stipend. Yesterday's price. It's not today's price.
Starting point is 01:10:25 It's not today's price. Man, you out your mind, Ocho. I'm glad Real don't take you serious. I really do. You know what? I think that's the problem. You know what, Ocho? That's the problem with life.
Starting point is 01:10:37 We take life too serious and it's too goddamn short to be angry. It's too damn short to not be having a good time at all times. It's too short to be arguing. It's too short to be angry it's too damn short to not be having a good time at all times it's too short to be arguing it's too short to be mad it just it just is and i i found that out i i'm happy every day huh every day every day yeah there are issues we all go through stuff but anything that's not in my control anything that i can't physically or mentally handle, more so physically. And change, I don't worry about it. I let it go. We let too much stuff on the outside bother us.
Starting point is 01:11:14 Stuff that is completely out of our control. Handle what you can control and the things you can't. Fuck it. It's simple. Simple lifestyle. Yeah, man. Every day, people ask me, man, why are you always happy on Twitter every morning?
Starting point is 01:11:28 Five in the morning. You always talk about you love this, you love that. Nigga, is you ever angry? No, not really. Because I don't really let anything get to me or bother me at this point in life. It's wasting energy. What I'm getting mad for? What's the point?
Starting point is 01:11:42 True. What is the point? What am I solving by wasting that energy nothing and i think a lot of people a lot of people can learn from that if the things that you can't control if you just don't let it bother you people say oh and everybody had problems i don't understand anxiety i i me personally i don't understand it because I don't let anything bother me. You know, so it's mental health is very, very, very, very, very fucking important. Very important.
Starting point is 01:12:11 Obviously the studies and some of the things that have gone on, some of the stuff that I've learned about mental health is very important. And to the point where I've asked people, can you help me figure out what I may have going on? Well, mental health will be an issue because nothing bothers me nothing nothing to this day I'm trying to think of of what it may be because these are issues that I don't have that everyone seemed to be fighting with yeah I mean I mean everybody I mean it's I mean kudos to you that you can wake up every morning and have the same I mean obviously
Starting point is 01:12:43 I feel good i wake up and i got life health and strength the blood running warm in my veins i have use of my limbs i'm in my right mind but throughout the course of the day there are things that you know when you you operate a business and you you try to do things that you possibly can and you're like okay why didn't this go well right and especially because you got other people and everybody's not in your head and they don't see things or or or things or do things exactly like you. I think that was the biggest thing for me was to let go and stop trying to control everything. Because I like being in control.
Starting point is 01:13:14 So therefore, if it goes awry, I blame me. I turn it over to you, it go wrong. Now there's going to be hell to pay. But I found a way to let things go. Let them handle it. I got it. Okay. Get it handled.
Starting point is 01:13:28 But that was the biggest thing for me was to give up control. I like driving. I don't like being, unless I'm being driven. But to sit in a car with someone that, okay, we going. No, I need to drive. Right. Yeah. I can't remember the last time i've probably
Starting point is 01:13:46 been in a car and and a young lady drove me somewhere i i know let me drive your car okay okay all right i got you i'll show for you i'll play i'll show for you around what so what were you what are you gonna take miss be nasty is she gonna be able to be nasty when y'all go on a date she going to be able to order Miss Be Nasty when y'all go on a date? Can she order the lobster? You know, Ocho. I'm just asking.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Can Miss Be Nasty order the lobster? Okay, let me say this. Ocho, you know I told that story. I said it was 1990. Yeah. And you know, women, some women were jumping on a timeline talking about, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:24 you ain't let nobody order no women. You know, it's a quid pro quo. I was like, I didn't have bread. I say, see, you looking at me in today's terms, 30 plus years ago. Right, right, right. I tried to make that abundantly clear. That was a different time. Now, hopefully, everybody is smart enough.
Starting point is 01:14:45 We on a first date. Nobody's trying to, to, to, to like, okay, I'm ordering the, yeah, I'm ordering the seafood tower. You know, you go to Mastro,
Starting point is 01:14:55 you go to me, and they got these things that's this high and they got crab and lobster and scallop and shrimps and this and that. And nobody trying to play five.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Yeah, they cost four, five hundred dollars. Whoa, whoa, come on, man. Come on. Come on with the bullshit there. Yeah. got that. And nobody tried to play five. Yeah, they cost $500. Whoa, whoa. Come on, man. Come on. Come on with the bullshit there. Yeah. Where that's at?
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah. They got them at all the higher restaurants. See, I got it. You ain't never heard of the seafood tower? See, I got to get out of the mode, man. This is some bullshit, man. Am I missing something? Or should I just stick to what I already do?
Starting point is 01:15:22 What the fuck is the damn seafood tower? Well, I mean, they got lobster tail. They got crab claws. They got shrimp cocktail. They got, I mean, if it's oysters. On a tower? Yeah. It's like three levels.
Starting point is 01:15:41 And so, you know, they got probably lobster here. They got crab legs, crab claws here. They got shrimp cocktail. They got oysters. Yeah. I ain't never heard that. The only place I've been, I've been to a nice place in Miami. I've been to Poppy Steak.
Starting point is 01:15:55 I've been to Poppy Steak. The presentation at Poppy Steak. Listen, they had a little thousand dollar steak they bring out. And their presentation, they turn the lights off. And, you know, we went for real birthday. They turn the lights off and that thing. And then the music start coming. Then the whole group of people come out with a briefcase and they open it up and they be chanting
Starting point is 01:16:12 and they close it back and they be like, and they open it back. I'm like, oh shit, but it's shit live. How many people that steak feed? I think six, six or seven. Yeah, big tomahawk steak. It might be more than that. But that presentation, I've been there one time.
Starting point is 01:16:32 Obviously, I got the little thousand dollar steak. And after that, that was it. That's the extent of my experience with nice restaurant. But I ain't never heard no seafood tower, man. God damn. Yeah. Oh, what I ain't never heard no seafood tower, man. God damn. Yeah. Oh, what I want to ask you.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Check this out. Ocho, you ever seen and women going, you lie. A lot of guys are going to say I'm lying. You know what I've never done, Ocho?
Starting point is 01:16:57 What? Don't lie to me. I've never been to a place and sent a girl a drink. No. See, this is another one this is i get i guarantee you you will never find a woman now i'm not saying that when for i i'm trying to think there's only been a handful of times i'm talking about like in the last, I think I might've only had, in my first day, like from the time I got to Denver
Starting point is 01:17:29 until the time I retired. I think I only had one female to buy a drink, order a drink when she, you know, like I would like a drink or look at the wine menu. Right.
Starting point is 01:17:43 But outside, okay, I'm out with the menu. But outside, okay, I'm out with the boys. And you see girls, you don't go send no drinks over? Send them a drink. No.
Starting point is 01:17:52 And this is, again, this is another area just like last night's show, obviously with the whole Keithy thing, this is another area for me that is out of my realm.
Starting point is 01:18:02 This is not my expertise because, you know, I don't drink alcohol. So I can't even... You ever send somebody a drink, I don't drink alcohol. So I can't even... You ever send somebody a drink? I don't drink and I don't partake in the nightlife.
Starting point is 01:18:09 You know that. I don't go nowhere. I ain't saying now. I'm talking about before. You ain't never sent a girl a drink. Hell not. Why I'm saying...
Starting point is 01:18:18 If she thirsty, she got a... What? I ain't know my cheap ass ain't send nobody no goddamn drink now. Come on now. I ain't never sent money either. You know how much alcohol costs? I mean, no my cheap ass ain't send nobody no goddamn drink now. Come on now. I ain't no for some money either.
Starting point is 01:18:25 You know how much alcohol costs? I mean the markup. Yeah. Inside a club? I see him arguing about that shit on Twitter. You think I'm finna hell nah. Ain't for me. But obviously that's not my lane. I mean I'm
Starting point is 01:18:40 other people that are better suited to talk about oh yeah I sent girl a drink. I can't even talk about that. Yeah, and that's how I am. I don't... And I'm not saying, oh, you sent a girl a drink. No, I just never have.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Right. I never have. But it's the right... I mean, I've had women like, oh, you're not going to buy me a drink? I'm like, no. Oh. I'm not.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Well, you know, women go to the club, they don't need to take no money because they're all men. If you're not going to do it, there's about 100 dudes that will. You understand that? First of all, how's she looking?
Starting point is 01:19:11 Everybody ain't getting no drinks bought for her. Truth be told. That's not true. You think so? No, you're bullshit. I'll be excusing. Bull jive.
Starting point is 01:19:20 Like that little boy said, bullshit. I don't think it had nothing to do with looks. Because women, women, women, women, women traveling groups, right?
Starting point is 01:19:27 And in every group that women have, there's always an alpha. And the alpha is the one the guy attracted to the section and you know the first thing they say, you got your girls with you?
Starting point is 01:19:35 Yeah. Boom. Right there. Everybody drinking for free. They ain't got to take no money to the club when they go out. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I had a young lady tell me one time that this guy wanted to talk to her. Yeah. And she said, well, if you want to talk to me, you got to take me
Starting point is 01:19:48 and my eight friends out to eat. Whoa, come back again? Yeah. She told me that she told a guy, if you want to talk to me, if you want to talk to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Not date, but just talk to. You got to take her and her eight friends out? Took them out to eat. Did he take did he take him nope yeah he took him you can't leave you can't leave with money like that man because when you leave with money like that you're gonna always have to keep you're gonna have to keep lean with it wait here's the thing i take you to a 500 600 dinner where do i go go from there? You have to maintain that. What you mean?
Starting point is 01:20:27 If you set the precedent at the beginning, you got to maintain it. And the minute you don't, what's going to happen? Oh, you cheap. That's why I just, that's why I started off with McDonald's. I mean, you going to do this or not?
Starting point is 01:20:40 What you want to do? No, we ain't got to do McDonald's. Okay. But I ain't going to let you head crack me on the first one either wait hold on he took eight of them out you know it's but but women you know what here's the thing though women and i get it women they try they don't normally women travel in packs at least at least two yeah sometimes three to four and it's like well you know if you buy a drink, you got to buy my girls a drink. Well, I mean, I can't remember.
Starting point is 01:21:10 I can't remember the last time I've been. I mean, I've been to sporting events, so I know what alcohol costs. So you buy, let's just say the average drink is somewhere between $10 and $16. You buy four of them, now you have $40 to $64. Right. And well, you got to think about times are different now too, huh? You know, I think the men
Starting point is 01:21:31 have also set the precedent of leading with money and showing that they do have it. They get what they do want. So it's different. And if there's one dude that won't do it, you know, it's about 200 more
Starting point is 01:21:41 waiting in line to do it. Yeah. you know, it's about 200 more waiting in line to do it. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I'm reading the story. Gilbert Arenas, Kenya Martin, and Brandon Jennings. Hey, them boys had me laughing, boy. How they used to have rules with their teammates dealing with groupies.
Starting point is 01:22:02 But see, basketball is here the thing to Ocho because basketball and baseball players travel so much more than an NFL player does, because, you know, we fly in Saturday. We normally get, we probably land around three 34 o'clock. We get on a bus that drives up to the tarmac. We go straight to the hotel. They're normally going to have special teams. I mean, they're going to have meetings within an hour. So
Starting point is 01:22:25 it's not like a basketball player. You land, you touch down, you drop your bags off, and you're out. A baseball player, you're in a city for five, six days because you got three, four games. It's not like that. And the level, I've been around NBA players, I've been around LBL. You
Starting point is 01:22:41 think football players got the women, they can't. It ain't even close. It ain't even close. It ain't even close. At all. Football players are construction workers, and that's not a construction worker. They're hardworking.
Starting point is 01:22:52 But when it comes to NBA and MLB. Different ball game, baby. They got them. Hey, they got them. Yeah, baby. And the story, the story is Kenyon and Gibberdon was telling
Starting point is 01:23:07 about them boys had me in tears. Back in the day, Ocho, before I got saved, if she told me she talked to a basketball or MLB player, I said, baby,
Starting point is 01:23:19 I ain't got nothing for you. You out of there? I can't afford you. Rent too high. Now, you good, huh? It wasn't that bad back then? I ain't got it. You ain't got it? I ain't afford you. Rent too high. You good, huh? It wasn't that bad back then. I ain't got it. You ain't got it?
Starting point is 01:23:28 I ain't got it, Ocho. I ain't got it, Ocho. I ain't got it. Ain't no sense in me lying. Ain't no sense in me trying to front on them. I ain't going to lie, baby. I ain't got it. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I can't. Hey, just go on back. Hey, find you another baseball or NBA player. Hey, Shea ain't got it. I had three small kids. Right, right, right. You couldn't do it? I ain't got it.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I couldn't do it. So did you warn your teammates? Because at some point in time, you were a rookie. And then you became the veteran, the elder statesman. You knew everybody. I don't know how much you hung out. But I would try to tell the guys. But sometimes, you know, guys, I tell the guys but sometimes you know guys i mean man love is hey i said what i would do i was like hey bro
Starting point is 01:24:12 let me tell you know she he's she kind of been with a couple of guys i'm not gonna be disrespecting somebody she she a garden tool i'm gonna say hey bro she's been with a couple of guys hey so you know tread lightly yeah okay okay, you know, tread lightly. Okay, okay, Sean. You know, you make her your girl, like,
Starting point is 01:24:27 you got nothing to do, hey, and once she your girl, I'm going to treat her just like I would if that was your wife. That's who you chose to be with because,
Starting point is 01:24:34 hey, you my teammate, that's what you chose to be with. That's who you chose to be with. But, you know, you try to give them a little heads up
Starting point is 01:24:42 because, hey, guys gave me the heads up. I never interfered. I never interfered in that manner. Never. Because no matter what you tell somebody, they're going to like and love who they love. And I didn't want to be the one to come off as, I hate using the word hating, because that's something that I don't consider me doing.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Even if it is, even if the intent is in a positive way, you know, to give you fair warning. I think everyone has to experience those experiences with people and then to see their true colors on the back end. Damn, boy, so you're going to let the... So you're going to let...
Starting point is 01:25:19 So you know the bridge. Right. 10 miles down the road that I normally travel is out. So you ain't gonna tell me. You gonna let me go this far. Well, listen, that's not true because sometimes the bridge 10 miles down the road is out and depending on
Starting point is 01:25:34 the person that you, what happens, you might get you might be the one. And before you get to the end of that bridge, she might be the one to fix that motherfucker so you can get the hell over. But see, here's the thing. I'm just being optimistic a wise man learns from others mistakes a fool will learn from his own yeah you the wise man you tell me so i don't make that mistake like when you're going you're gonna let me be a fool or you're gonna let me be a fool i like where you're going but sometime you know
Starting point is 01:26:03 you could take you're gonna let me listen no i know listen to me no i ain't gonna let me be a fool? I like where you're going, but sometimes, you know you could take... You're going to let me be a fool? Listen, no, I know. Listen to me. No, I ain't going to let you be no fool, but you could take a horse to water. You know that, huh? But you can't make him drink. You could lead that horse to water.
Starting point is 01:26:15 You could tell... You could say, I don't want you to be no fool, but I could lead you to the water. But depending on how fine she is, shit, well, you're going to cross that bridge where that motherfucker fixed the knot.
Starting point is 01:26:33 Hey. is shit well you're going across that bridge with that motherfucker fixed or not hey but listen you're right i ain't gonna lie to you man one of one of god's greatest creations is the woman and and and we as men are willing to do some of anything. A motherfucker swim to seven seas for the right one. Based on visual. A visual. That's it. The visuals. Ocho. Ocho, I told a female one time. She's like, well, you know. And I just couldn't leave her alone.
Starting point is 01:26:57 She said, Shannon. See? Why can't you leave me alone? She was fine. She still is. What you mean was? Was means past tense. She is currently fine.
Starting point is 01:27:13 You know what I told her? You funny, man. You know what I told her? I said the mind replays what the heart can't delete. Let me get my pen. Stay right there. Don't go nowhere. Hold on. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Don't go nowhere. Don't go nowhere. If you think I ain't using that, man, you can't use that. Let me get my paper real quick. Yes. You think, well, listen, because she's asleep right now,
Starting point is 01:27:47 but I need that line, boy. Well, bring that to me one more time now. Bring that to me again. The mind replays what the heart can't delete. Replays. Replays. What the heart can't delete.
Starting point is 01:27:59 What the heart can't delete. What the heart... You know what? That's going to be my morning text right there. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Normally, I leave my morning text with Grand Rising. Grand Rising Queen.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to change it up on her. Yeah, she don't like this. Like, oh, he would think about me. You know what a twin flame is? You ever heard of the term twin flame? Twin flame? Oh, yeah, I smoke cigars. The torch? No, no, no,
Starting point is 01:28:32 not a twin flame. I'm talking about male to female. It's like a kindred spirit. Nah, oh, you got, you ain't got, that's, I don't know about that. That's some new shit? You, have, you, shit now have you ever been have you ever had a situation where
Starting point is 01:28:47 you had dealt with this person you no longer deal with that person but there's something there's a magnetic force that keeps pulling you guys back towards each other.
Starting point is 01:29:13 Damn, that's a good one. And now I'm thinking hard, and despite the current situation that I'm in right now, that wouldn't deter my answer because this obviously would be before her. I ain't had nothing like that because once I was a dad,
Starting point is 01:29:35 it was a wrap, man. I'd be next. Next. And I mean no disrespect. Next. Yeah, I get it. Man, that's a good one. And I think we all have that person in life, too.
Starting point is 01:29:48 I would think, you know, based on the stories I've heard, there's always someone that always have access no matter what. Because there's always someone that can get to you in a way that nobody else has been able to. Despite you falling in love. Despite you having kids. Despite you being married. There was always somebody from someone's past that has access. You know, it might not be physical, but it's here. Or it's here.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah, always, always. And if you're married right now, and if you're in a relationship right now, ask your spouse. Ask the person you're with who that special person is. They probably ain't going to lie. They ain't going to say, oh, it ain't nobody issue. But that's not true. They're probably going to lie. They're going to say, oh, it ain't nobody's issue. But that's not the truth. And that's not the case because if that was the case,
Starting point is 01:30:28 can you imagine if you ask your partner if you could be with the person you really want right now or is the person you really want right now, is it really me? I mean, the honest truth is,
Starting point is 01:30:38 it's not. If you think about it, if you be honest with yourself, am I really the one you really want to be with? You know, I ask, you know, there are a lot of times that I've asked myself. I've never been foolish enough to think I'm the wealthiest or the best looking or the best dress or the most muscular. I've never been foolish enough to think that.
Starting point is 01:30:59 But, you know, when I was younger, I always I used to always ask myself. Am I good enough? Do I really? And I started to play tricks on myself and I would sabotage my own relationship because I didn't think I was good enough. And so that was the hardest thing for me is that I would mess it up because here I am thinking that, man, I ain't good enough for her. What she want with me? You know, I'm from the country. I talk with a list. You know, I have a very colloquial dialect.
Starting point is 01:31:37 I mean, I'm not sharp. You know, it's just like. Right. And then I would F it up. I screw it up. Yeah. Sabotage. You know, sometimes women do that as well.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Sometimes women sabotage. Yeah, they do. Women sabotage great situations, overthinking. You know what I hate, Ochoa? You know what I hate? Let me tell you what I hate about a woman. You got real passionate real quick just there now. I brought back some memories.
Starting point is 01:32:02 Yeah, Ochoa, you know what I hate? Shannon, you can have any woman you want. Why you want to be with me? Damn it, I don't now. I changed my mind. I did, but I don't now. Why you ask me that? Right.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Threw off everything. Yeah. Damn. Shannon, you could have any woman you want, why you want to be with me. That is a bad one, huh? Damn.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Well, how you answer that? That's a good question, though. When you, I mean, when you think about it. It's really, it's really. A lot of times, whatever answer you give them is not going to be good enough.
Starting point is 01:32:42 No, it's never, it's never sufficient. Never sufficient. But. Damn. It is what it is not going to be good enough. No, it's never sufficient. Never sufficient. But, it is what it is. Damn. But, special.
Starting point is 01:32:55 But you're right about that, what you said about young guys coming into a league, and it's not just the NFL, it could be any league, MLB, NBA. I mean, so many women out here any league, MLB, NBA. I mean, so many women out here, man, they got a look. You know, that's all it take now.
Starting point is 01:33:12 That's all it take. It's all about... Because we're visual. Men are visual. Visual creatures. I'm a visual learner. You can't tell me something. You got to show me. Let me see it.
Starting point is 01:33:20 Right. And see that... Like, they literally had... If they put it on the board, it's like, okay, Shannon, you do this. I say, can you show it to me? Let me see it on see that like they literally had if they put it on the board it's like okay Shannon you do this I said can you show it to me let me see
Starting point is 01:33:28 let me see it on the board now I got it I'm never gonna forget it and so that's how a lot that's men are very visual women like
Starting point is 01:33:40 women like touch they like you know caressing they like the date by the fireplace and all that men just need to see and if and the better you look the easier it is for you to have access to whatever it is you want i mean it used to be you know hey hair nails then it went from rent
Starting point is 01:34:00 the car yeah nice ll's a business a whole business yeah why not a little $40 I come out of the pocket quit a little $40 for your damn little number $60
Starting point is 01:34:12 for your hell $100 yeah take this C-note and get on up out of here that was back in the day inflation done hitting that man you know
Starting point is 01:34:20 you got to pay rent you got to pay car note you got to get hair you got to buy wigs. You know, that's why I learned how to do all that stuff. So you don't have to come and ask. Men is 15 bands a month. Men is a minimum of 15 bands a month.
Starting point is 01:34:35 That's minimal. I ain't got it. I got it, but I ain't got it. That's why I learned how to do all this. Everything, upkeep. The upkeep to a woman is very important. the upkeep to a woman is very important. The upkeep to a woman is very important. Just like having a building.
Starting point is 01:34:51 When you have a building, you got to continue to look after that building because if you don't look after that building, you know what happens over time? It starts to deteriorate. Yeah. That's why I learned, that's why I learned how to do all the women's upkeep.
Starting point is 01:35:03 I know how to, I could do, I do lashes. I could do lashes. I do brows. Ocho, you know what happened? Yeah, what happened? What happened? If you get a woman and you don't keep the upkeep.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Yeah, what happened? Another building manager come in and keep it upkeep for you. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? That will go out. You know what happened? At some time, when you think about it, in hindsight, that ain't a bad thing because that's one less expense for you
Starting point is 01:35:25 you can look you can look at it from that perspective you can look at it two different ways yeah you can look at it two different ways
Starting point is 01:35:30 oh you wanna yeah but I'm like okay cool that's your responsibility I'm cool I get to save you some money I'm like upkeep like that
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'm so now I'm looking for me a woman like with Halle Berry hair I want to cut her hair she ain't got with Halle Berry hair. With what else? I want to cut it. You know, Halle Berry, that thing like that, about this long. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:49 Now, you know them curls? Now, shoot, that's a little expense, too. Now, that's every three, four days. You want some curls. They ain't like the wig. They ain't like the wig. The wig be causing a foul. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:57 Them wigs expensive. And they have about four or five of them. Yeah, them wigs expensive. They expensive. I'm getting my hair done. I'm like, you just got your hair done the other day. Oh, I got to get my hair
Starting point is 01:36:06 done weekly. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe two weeks, every two weeks. They got to go. They got to go to the real, the real deal.
Starting point is 01:36:12 You know, you go to the real deal. You go to, you know, Arrogantay and Lonzo and Jonathan M. They had you, they had you right
Starting point is 01:36:18 for about two weeks, two weeks. I put, I put them on. You don't, you don't know about them, but I put them on, on,
Starting point is 01:36:24 on to, on to doing that. But other than that, man, that shit is expensive, huh? About $1,500, $2,000 wigs, huh? Yes! Yeah, man, I know. I know.
Starting point is 01:36:35 And then, you know, you got anywhere between a $4,000 and $7,500 partner. Yeah. And you got anywhere between $600 and a $1,200 car payment. Yeah, and you got your nails. You got your nails, your feet.
Starting point is 01:36:46 We ain't even talk about makeup. Makeup. We ain't talk about makeup yet. Makeup expensive as hell. And then clothes. Even the women clothes. You can be fashionable for very cheap. You can be fashionable for very cheap.
Starting point is 01:36:59 But man, that hair. Hair is where the money at. Hair and makeup. That's the most right there. that's the most right there. That's the most right there. I told you, that's why I learned how to do everything.
Starting point is 01:37:09 You ain't going to ask me for no money because you know I know how to do it. What, you need a washing set? Come on. Bring me the blow dryer. Bring me the curling iron.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Bring me the flat iron. What you need? You need your nails and feet done? I need to find me a hairdresser. She can do her own damn hair. Yeah. Man, listen.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Or find me a nail tech. She can do her own damn hair. Or find me a nail tech. She can do her own nails. I'm telling you, I know fellas, I know fellas out there listening. Get on YouTube. Your girl always asks you for money for her hair and nails. Get on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Learn how to do the stuff to maintain and keep her happy. You save you some money. Drop our 12 bands every month. About a third. It's going to come to a time and point in life drop our 12 bands every month by the third. Because they know it's going to come to a time and point in life for them 12 bands that that play
Starting point is 01:37:50 ain't going to hit every time. It ain't going to hit every time. Because here's the thing, Ocho. Because you know every year they expect a 10 to 20% raise. Yeah. Yes, they do. Yes, they do. Yes, they do.
Starting point is 01:38:05 That's going to cut in the Ash compensation. That's going to cut in the George compensation. Hey, guys, I got to cut you back. I got to cut in the Barber's compensation.
Starting point is 01:38:19 That cut into the kid. You know, I got two daughters that are going to want to get married. But my oldest daughter already knows. She's going to like, that I take the money towards a house, a down payment on the house, something like that. She's like, I don't want a whole lot of people at my
Starting point is 01:38:30 wedding anyway. I like it. I like it. My baby, uh, Pooh, uh, she get married, she probably take daddy, uh, pay off these student loans. Yeah. Okay, cool. My son already got married,
Starting point is 01:38:45 so he's straight. But, yeah, man, it's different, Ocho. I remember, hey, bro, I remember $150. Kept a lady happy. What, $150?
Starting point is 01:38:59 Man, $150 kept her happy. What, $40? What? What you talking about? $40. Hey, Ocho, you know I break about, hey, girl, go get your nail done every week.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Not no every two, every week. Every week. You had them on, you had them on, y'all. Yes, look at you. Nah, it's just, it's a part of life. It's the way it is. It's called inflation.
Starting point is 01:39:26 You know, and you got to evolve with the times. And you got to play the play. You got to play the, it's nowhere around it. You can sit here and argue about it. You can say what you want to say. But as you continue to rise, as those zeros continue to grow. And you know, they got some free agents out here. You know, free agents going to the highest bill. Oh, yeah. they got some free agents out here. You know, free agents going to the highest bill.
Starting point is 01:39:45 Oh yeah. They got some free agents out here. They bad to bad. They get on the market, they just like, woo. They ain't no dime. They 12 pieces.
Starting point is 01:39:53 Yeah. Yeah. Long as it, long, long, long as they don't mind a little competition because you won't be the only 12 piece on the roster. Bro, I got the LA.
Starting point is 01:40:04 It's a different set of rules out hear bro because you got you got two basketball teams yeah you got football teams you got actors entertainers celebs you got producers you got directors under one roof so what under one roof what another man want, another one will. Yeah. And those are one of the places where it will happen. Expeditiously. Now play if you want to. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:39 And Atlanta done got the same way. Spare the price, got high. Yeah. Because if you don't want to, guess who will? Hey, I got to get my paper up before I get back out there.
Starting point is 01:40:53 That's why, that's why, that's why I'm out the game. Out the game. Let me see, let me see how many subs we got. Hey, I need y'all to sign up.
Starting point is 01:41:01 Y'all want me to get a wife or something. Y'all need to, y'all need to get these subs up. That's it. There it is. Get the sign up. Y'all want me to get a wife or something. Y'all need to get these subs up. That's it. There it is. Get the subs up. When you're speaking to a wife, now we had...
Starting point is 01:41:11 You know what? I ain't going to go there. We'll get back. Please make sure you click that. Please make sure you click that subscribe button. Unc and Ocho, Nightcap. Please make sure you do that. That's our show for the evening
Starting point is 01:41:26 We will definitely be back On Thursday To go around Talk about the Thursday night football game What we got? Anything you want to add Ocho? Yeah we in it with a song tonight Ladies and gentlemen
Starting point is 01:41:43 Ocho decided that Every episode that we sign off on We singing a song He wants to close out the episode with a song How many people we got here tonight? How many people in there? 11,000 So that's 11,000 people, right?
Starting point is 01:42:01 11,000 And I know 11,000 of those people I know they've been to church Yep, yep So I need all 11,000. And I know 11,000, I know 11,000 of those people, I know they've been to church. Yep, yep. So I need all 11,000 of y'all, y'all should be singing right along. You better know this song because you grew up in a church, right?
Starting point is 01:42:14 Okay. Okay. Grandma had you in the church? Yep. Okay, you ready? I was a junior deacon. You was a junior deacon, so I know you know this one.
Starting point is 01:42:23 Mm-hmm. Let me know when you're ready. Ahem. Ahem. Zzzz junior deacon, so I know you know this one. Let me know when you're ready. There we go. Okay, let's go. What a friend we have in Jesus. There we go. All our sins and graves to bear. There we go. There we go. There we go. All our sins and grace to bear. There we go.
Starting point is 01:42:49 What a privilege to carry everything to God in prayer. There we go. Hey, we're going to keep it going. Next week, we're going to sing the whole song. God and pray. There we go. Hey, we're going to keep it going. Next week, we're going to sing the whole song. Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for tuning in to another episode of Nightcap. I'm your favorite sports uncle,
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