Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Bears Win Big, Kelce & Swift, Vacation Destinations

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Shannon Sharpe and Chad Ochocinco Johnson discuss the Chicago Bears win over the Washington Commanders, Shannon's interview with Marshawn Lynch on 'Club Shay Shay', the latest with Travis Kelce and Ta...ylor Swift, vacation destinations, and more.  #Volume #Herd #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:29 Let me tell you, you're not better than Jimmy Smith. You're not better than Keenan McCardell. You're not better than Aaron Cox. You're not better than Willie Flipper Anderson. So stop. You're not better than Sterling Sharp. Stop. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Okay. You finished? Let me know you're done. Yeah, I've been done. I was done when you started. Let me know when you're done. Yeah, I've been done. I was done when you started. Let me tell you something. Everybody you just named, with all due respect, Jimmy Smooth, one of the best to ever do it and don't get the credit he deserves.
Starting point is 00:03:53 But a man, Nathaniel Person, out there running routes like this and stopping on the dime. There's only one person. Let me finish. Let me finish. Let me stay. Stay with me now. There's only one person that would come out the huddle,
Starting point is 00:04:03 that would beg for bump and run, tell the person my route at the line of scrimmage before the snap of the ball and still get open. And if you need footage, I'll have NFL film provide you with that footage. Only one person was doing that. And Devontae Adams better right runner than you. Oh, child.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Yeah, see? See what I did right now? Listen, I like where you're going, but he is saucy. Let's stay on topic, though. Let's stay on topic. Like I said, one of the best route runners in NFL history. The best, and Devontae will tell you. What?
Starting point is 00:04:33 No. The guys I – y'all pull the tape out there of the guys that I just named. And you pull that on me, too, while you're doing that. Chicago Bears dominate the Commanders. Justin Fields looks better, a lot better tonight. He was 15-29, only 52% completion. 282 yards, four touchdowns. DJ Moore had a monster game.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Ten targets, eight catches, 230 yards. The Bears run the air out of the ball also, 178 yards rushing. And the 14-game losing streak that the Bears had coming into the game. catches 230 yards. The Bears run the air out of the ball, also 178 yards rushing. And the 14-game losing streak that the Bears had coming into the game is no more. I mean, think about this. In his first 30-career game, Justin Fields had zero
Starting point is 00:05:17 for touchdown pass games. Now he's had two in the last five days. What do you think was the biggest difference in the Justin Fields that we saw, let's just say, the first half of last week, last Sunday, and for the entirety of the ballgame tonight? I think tonight's game and the difference between tonight's game and last week's game is the defense. It's the defense.
Starting point is 00:05:40 The defense set the tone from the start of today's game in the first half. You got to remember now, the commanders didn't get going until the second half and finding low efficiency and being able to run and throw the ball into the second half of the game. At the end of the first half, the commanders, they had nothing but 49 yards. Total offense. Total offense. So it all started with the defense.
Starting point is 00:06:02 They coming into the game, they only had two sacks in two games they just had five in one night they had five tonight so i'm really happy not just for justin justin fields but for also for coach ever flues who obviously had again 14 14 losses in the row the comeback behind uh lost to the broncos last was it was the Broncos, right? Yeah, on Sunday, yeah. They lost last night. They were up at 1.287. Listen, the Bears defense was allowing almost 29 points a game, man. 29 points a game. There are not many games you're going to win
Starting point is 00:06:38 when your defense is giving up 29 points a game unless you got an all-star team on offense or a bunch of track runners or something. But again, on Justin Fields' end, I'm happy. I'm very happy. Let me pause a little bit and say this. I'm very happy that Justin Fields had the game he did because I was sick and tired of hearing the people that, obviously, if they went 0-5, they were obviously going to tank and do what they needed to do to make it necessary to get Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I was sitting here, the Caleb Williams talk. What's the young fellow from North Carolina? Drake May. Yeah, Drake May. That's all I kept hearing. Tonight was a small sample size. Bears fans, that organization, myself, that was a small sample size of what the Bears often can do offensively and defensively.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And what you get when you can facilitate the ball, you can run a ball. Khalil Herbert, nine yards a carry in the first half. Obviously going out because of the ankle injury. But what they were able to show tonight was a small symbol size. If they can find some type of consistency week in and week out, regardless of who you're playing, regardless of who you're playing, find some type of consistency and have that well-balanced offense and get DJ Moore the ball, get Darnell Mooney the ball, and just do it.
Starting point is 00:07:57 It was beautiful. It was beautiful. They only had three guys to catch passes tonight. They only had three guys that were targeted. I didn't even mention that. I ain't even mentioned the tight end. Cole Komet. Oh my goodness. Man, 6'6". 6'6".
Starting point is 00:08:11 It's his third TD in two weeks. Yep. Man, unbelievable mismatch, man. They got to take advantage of that, man. Use the players you have at your disposal to your advantage. And this is what you get. Well, I've always felt this way. I've always felt it's easier to call plays from behind than it is ahead.
Starting point is 00:08:29 Because a lot of times you get ahead and you're like, okay, should I keep my foot on the gas? And then if you lose the game, it's like, why don't you run the ball? But then if you take the ball out of his hand, they say, well, why'd you take the ball out of hand? He had it going. So it's very, very hard. We saw what happened in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:08:45 We saw a 28-3 lead. A team tried to keep their foot on the gas, allowed the other team to come back and win the Super Bowl when they should have run the football. It's easy to second guess. When you're behind, you can just throw caution to the wind. Everybody's already expecting you to lose. So what do we have to lose?
Starting point is 00:09:02 We're already down by 17. We're down by 21 or 28 points. And so for the Bears to remain, because for a second, they got kind of dicey there. It got 20. It was 30 to 20. They almost got a two-point conversion to make it a one-score game. But give the Bears credit.
Starting point is 00:09:18 You're right. Matt Eberflus did a great job. Give his coordinator, because this is what I'm tired of. If a quarterback plays well, the offensive coordinator gives no credit. Right. If the quarterback plays bad, he gets all the blame. It goes. So we're talking about we're talking about Justin Fields and credit.
Starting point is 00:09:38 He played well. The completion percentage is not where he wanted to be, but he had some big time throws. DJ Moore finished him off with some big-time runs. But I thought the OC did a great job of calling the game and putting him in a situation, letting him get comfortable. Because just like anything else, once a quarterback gets comfortable, now the field just opens up for him. I think it's very important, and I say this all the time,
Starting point is 00:10:01 when it comes to officer players especially the quarterback position you have to understand as the offensive coordinator calling plays understand your player strengths and your players weaknesses and always predicate the office of play calling towards the strengths of your quarterback and those he has those he has surrounding them and everything will be okay of course it's easy for me to say sitting behind, you know, a mic and a couch and a camera. But when I think about it, when I think about it in simple form, there's no need to complicate things. I think sometimes coordinators get in their way, overthinking and complicating things instead of just doing what their players do best. Right. I think sometimes, you know, go give the quarterback an easy throw,
Starting point is 00:10:45 let him get it out, let him get, you know, go give the quarterback an easy throw. Let him get it out. Let him get, you know, let him get a stop route. Let him get something. Let him like, oh yeah, I'm ready to die. A lot of times, you know, you start your first pass. You're trying to go 15, 20 yards down the field. Give him something easy. Not a wide receiver. He just wants the ball. Just give him the ball. He just wants to feel it. So he's like, yeah, I'm in the game now. It's just like a defensive player. Once they get that one hit in they're like oh yeah now we're ready to play you settle in you settle you settle in but i thought but the uh uh chicago really needed this game they really needed this game because that is a that is a uh a football town i understand the the bulls and the cubbies but man the bears are synonymous because of the harshness of the winners yeah and the Cubbies, but man, the Bears are synonymous because of the
Starting point is 00:11:26 harshness of the winners. And so the monsters of the midway. So you expect a defense. Now, they don't play defense like they once did. And rest his soul, they lost one of the great defenders of all time, not just in Chicago, but in the NFL, Dick Buckus.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Tell you a story. My very first Super Bowl that I, when it was out here in Pasadena, Buffalo played the Cowboys. The game was in Pasadena, but the NFL put all the players that coming in, obviously for the festivities, we were in LA. So I wake up, I get up one morning,
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm going to breakfast, and I'm late to go into breakfast. Sitting at a table is Dick Buckus, Ray Niskey and Deacon Jones so they're at a table so I get my breakfast buffet style I get my breakfast
Starting point is 00:12:15 I go sit down at a table by myself and I'll never forget Ray Niskey say little Sterling come on over here. Come on over. You can sit with us. We don't bite.
Starting point is 00:12:29 So I get my stuff. I go sit with them. And, you know, they started talking, Deke. You know, hey, I'm Deacon Jones, blah, blah, blah. You know, telling me all, telling me the stories. Dick Buckus introduced himself. Ray Nisky, because he's a Packer, my brother played for the Packers. He just starts, he's like, he's like Packer. My brother played for the Packers. He just starts.
Starting point is 00:12:45 He's like, you good, but you're not your brother. Like, bro, you just met me. How you going to say that? You just met me. You don't know what. You don't know. I might be in my feelings. I might feel it some time.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Right, right, right, right. But he was great. Introduced himself. Tall. Loved the way you conduct yourself. You and your brother. Your mom should be proud of the way. your grandma should be proud the way she raised you guys and so uh man we we we the nfl and this family we lost a legend today oh yeah big time
Starting point is 00:13:16 big time i i don't really have you know i wasn't very fortunate i wasn't fortunate enough as you were to to be in a legends a a legend's presence like Dick Buckus but obviously you know knowing what he meant to the NFL and to the organization of the Bears throughout the years and being one of the most feared men to play the middle back middle linebacker position uh he is someone that I should yeah the Bears are known for that uh Bill George is the first guy thought of to play the middle linebacker position and And so now you get Buccas, and then you get Mike Singletary. And then after that you get Erlacher. So the lineage,
Starting point is 00:13:50 all those guys are Hall of Famers. So now, when you think of Bears, you think of the middle linebacker position. You think of the... It's kind of like... What I'm trying to think of, what would it be like? I guess... What? I'm trying to think of what would it be like I guess uh what who I'm trying to think of of of
Starting point is 00:14:06 the captain of the Yankees right uh how prestigious that is to be a middle lot yes to be one of those to what be one of those guys to be thought of like a Buckus like a Singletary like a Bill George like a Brian Erlacher one of those guys uh but it was a great honor. And going to the Hall of Fame and when the Hall of Fame luncheon, you sit around and you see Dick Buckus and you see Mean Joe Green and you see all, you see this guy, you see that guy. You like, you just look around and you just like, man. Legends. I didn't see those guys on television, but I heard stories about them.
Starting point is 00:14:41 And I watched them play on, I watched, you know, watch them play on, on, on, on the internet. Once it came up, once it became available and to actually be in their presence. Now I saw, you know, I saw mean Joe and some of those other guys play, but it was an incredible honor to be in the presence of them and the respect that, that the younger guys that came along, like myself and, uh, even the LTs who's arguably you know a god in that room and of itself the way they paid homage to those guys that came before them it's just it's just an unbelievable feeling oh yeah uh i don't know if you saw this yesterday but uh we released i sat down with
Starting point is 00:15:20 beast mode last week yeah that's that's my boy now that's my boy now so i sat down with beast mode last week yeah that's that's my boy now that's my boy now so i saw that with beast mode and um you know beast mode didn't do a whole lot of talking when he was in the nfl and you know basically his famous line was i'm just here so i don't get fine i don't get fine i'm just by that action boss yeah that's it and so he opened up and he said some things um that caught a lot of people's attention and it went viral. You know, one of the things that he said is that I don't, don't, I don't bump with Pete. And I may, when he said, well, he said he don't bump with him. And so I'm like clarifying because we're talking about Russ and we're talking about Pete Carroll at the time. So I wanted some clarification because I didn't want any ambiguity.
Starting point is 00:16:03 I was like, you don't, you don't bump with who? He said, I don't bump with Pete. Right? He said, I don't F with Pete. He said, I don't F with Pete. And so he gets it. You're not hip. You're not hip. No, no, I'm hip, but I didn't know which one he was talking about. I needed clarity.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Was he talking about Russ or was he talking about Pete Carroll? So I just wanted clarity on who he was talking about, not what he was saying. I understood clearly. That's why I wanted clarification. But he also said kind of gave a backdrop of kind of when it changed or when the team kind of went because Pete wasn't holding Russ accountable in practice.
Starting point is 00:16:34 And then they had a meeting, a Kumbaya meeting where they go and they can voice their grievances. And Pete stood up and said, y'all don't say anything to Russ. Y'all talk to me. Y'all don't say anything to russ y'all talk to me y'all don't say anything to uh russ y'all talk to the quarterback coach and they said wait a minute we hold everybody accountable here that's what we built we that's what we were built on and so he was telling the story also that they played the titans he had a great game russ with their defense wasn't that good, especially the second there. Russ thought he was going to have a big day.
Starting point is 00:17:07 He didn't. B-Smoke had a big day. And so he wanted to call him and say, look, bro, I know you probably didn't have the day that you wanted, but I got your back. And there are going to be games that I think I'm going to rush for a buck 50 and two tubs. And you're going to have to have my back. So he wanted to reach out and call him.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And he said that he got someone to pass me Russ's number to me and the guy didn't pass it to him. He told Russ to call him. Well, I guess Russ called him from a block number. And so Beast Mode didn't answer the phone. So the guy calls Beast Mode back. Beast Mode said, nah, Russ
Starting point is 00:17:39 didn't call me. He said somebody called from a block number. He said that was Russ. So I guess Russ calls him back and then they have the conversation. But basically he was saying how the momentum kind of shifted. Right. From the team
Starting point is 00:17:54 and the way they looked at Russ, the way they perceived Russ. God, remember, you and I talked about this. You can fool the media. You can fool the fans. You can't fool them people inside that locker room. You cannot do it.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And Beast Mode, a guy that doesn't have a hate bone in his body, he is real and as authentic as you're going to get. So what was your big takeaway? I don't know how much of the interview that you saw. I saw it. Listen, everything you do, I pay attention. I pay attention. I be locked in. I'd be tuned in just so I can I can be able to for moments like this.
Starting point is 00:18:31 One of the things that I was told, obviously, when you make it to the NFL, you got different people from different walks of life. Yes. You know, when you when you come in into that locker room, everybody ain't your friend and everybody's not there to be your friend. And obviously it's a business. But what you do during that business, you make time to meet people. You know, you get time to hang out if you like to. But everybody does different things. Everybody's into different things. And sometimes certain people won't float your boat because you're not like minded and you don't associate it, associate yourself with certain people won't float your boat because you're not like-minded and you don't associate yourself with certain people. Now, Russ, I was never in that locker room. I can only go off the stories that I've heard before, some of the things that people have said. And obviously, I always defend him in saying, you know, Russell Wilson is a good dude.
Starting point is 00:19:19 He is a God-fearing man that has purpose and is on his own journey. Now, there might be some things that rub people the wrong way, the way he carries himself inside the locker room, sort of putting himself, I don't want to say above his teammates, but kind of separating himself, especially at the quarterback position. You need to gravitate towards your teammates. If the one position you can't be standoffish in the locker room right right right yeah but as the quarterback you're the extension of the head coach you're the extension
Starting point is 00:19:53 of the general manager of ownership you need to be a liaison you didn't i mean a lot of time hey you're talking to the offensive lineman one day you're smoothing with the d lineman you're talking to the receivers you really have to ingratiate yourself and people say well you can't be you don't understand the dynamic of a locker room that's not because hr has no has no bearing on production and so it's different than a normal nine to five because like you said you got different races different religions different orientation a lot of difference but the one thing that normally supposed to unite us is the ability to to want to win right and i told and i said this and i've said this before and people look at me like i'm crazy i said if the coach coach treat one player outwardly different than he treats the others,
Starting point is 00:20:47 the other players will grow to resent said player. And that's what started to happen because Pete started to be bold with it and he was treating Russ different. And Russ started to act different because I didn't want to get too much into it, but he brought that same attitude to Denver. A little bit. See, and the funny thing is, I didn't want to get too much into it, but he brought that same attitude to Denver. A little bit. See, and the funny thing, it's funny that you just said that he brought that same attitude to Denver
Starting point is 00:21:12 and the way things were run is because I heard about the separate office space, the separate locker as opposed to away from everybody else. You can't do that. He was upstairs like the coaches. What? Think about the coaches. Think about this. Now, I don't know that. You're upstairs like the coaches. Yeah. What? Think about the coaches. Think about this.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Now, I don't know if this is true or not. He was upstairs. His office was upstairs with the coaches. So I don't know if this is true or not. Now, I could get confirmation, but even if I got confirmation, I'm not going to go public with it because it'll make him look worse.
Starting point is 00:21:42 I heard Russ had told some players his door is always open right did you hear what i just said his that's what the head coach that's what the coaches say my door is always open if you got a problem you got something you want to say my door is open i heard he said told players that his door is always open. Yeah. I mean, listen, everybody's different. Everybody's different. But you can't be that different.
Starting point is 00:22:12 I know you're right. You're right. I'm not sure who he might have consulted with as far as being the quarterback. When you're quarterback of a team, you have to be, you do have to be open. You have to be personable. You have to be, what's the word I'm looking for? Approachable to all. everybody relatable um you don't have to change who you are but you're payton mannings you're tom brady's carson palmer you know these these are people i surrounded myself with or around and even if it wasn't football related they were still approachable and and and felt very welcoming the stories i hear
Starting point is 00:22:46 it feels like russ is it it hasn't been welcoming and he hasn't always had open arms and he in a sense is somewhat abusing the power that he had because of the high position in hierarchy that he was and that comes with being the quarterback um hopefully i i think i think he's changed a little bit obviously you know because the tides have turned a little bit in you know against or not in his favor but as he always says listen he's a god-fearing man he's always done things the right way you know and and maybe one of the things that he needs has needed to work on or work on in just that in the locker room factor other than that everything else that else that Russell has done in life has been fucking phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:23:28 You know, the thing is, Ocho, people, look, your religion is what you do and who you worship, who you go to bed with, who you wake up as. That don't have anything to do. All they want to know is that you don't think...
Starting point is 00:23:44 Peyton Manning is a better player, but you ain't got to throw it in my face that you get certain perks, right? Peyton Manning, Tom Brady. Think about this. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Joe Montana, John Elway, Dan Marino, none of the historically great quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes doesn't have a meeting. It doesn't have an office upstairs with the coaches. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:07 So how did you think, Ocho, how do you think that's going to fly with the players? Right. Hold on. I want to talk to Ocho. I got to call Ocho Publishers to set up a call. Don't laugh, Ocho. Don't laugh. I got to set up a call with Ocho's Publishers.
Starting point is 00:24:24 That's my teammate now. You my teammate. Right. I ain't talking about somebody. I got to set up a call with Ocho's Publishers. That's my teammate now. You my teammate. I ain't talking about somebody. I get it. Now, outside, sure. You're not just finna pick up the phone and call me. And everybody didn't have my number. But if somebody had reached out, I'm going to call them back from my number.
Starting point is 00:24:41 That's a teammate. I don't treat them, even though we might not hang out, but normally it's what I was explaining to Ocho, how Club Shea Shea started. It started in a dorm in northern Colorado in Greeley, where John, Bubby, all the guys, the quarterbacks would come. Everybody would come
Starting point is 00:24:58 hang out, drink, play video games, play cards, roll dice. Everybody would just come in. I'm not saying that you got to, you know, but I'm saying normally when guys are putting things together, just show your face every once in a while. I'm not saying you got to stay the whole night,
Starting point is 00:25:17 but it would be best because guys are looking around to see, who can I count on, man? Okay. I see, okay. I see you eat. Okay. I see your charm ruin the putter. I see sometimes guys would just stop by.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Hey, what y'all got going on in here? Just to see what's going on. All right, we gone. And I think the locker room dynamic is very different than any other workspace in the world. And unless you've been in that, it's hard to explain it. And it's hard to quantify the importance of a healthy locker room.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Right. And the funny thing about it, not only the importance of a healthy locker room, but the importance of your leader, the leader of your team, the one who runs the show, the one who gets the credit for the wins, the ones when you do lose. He also has to bear the burden of the losses through the media. He has to be the one front and center and reachable, accessible, and making everyone else feel a part. So if he is in everything and including everything that we're doing, that makes it, you know what? On Sundays at one o'clock, I'm fighting for him. Why you think those guys run through a wall for Tom Brady,
Starting point is 00:26:32 run through a wall for Peyton Manning, run through a wall for John Elway. Man, all we did was gamble with per diem. So anytime we had a little poppy shop machine, we had a little poppy shop machine, man, one of the first guys to putting their poppy, putting their, putting their per diem down, trying to gamble with Elway. And I'm trying, and I'm trying to get it. We play, we playing cards, you know, we was playing cards at first,
Starting point is 00:26:53 but you know how we have sponsors and things on the, on the plane. And Mike said, look guys, I don't mind you guys rolling dice, or playing cards for money, but we got guests on it. And that, that's not a good look. So just wait till you get to the hotel room. But guess who was down there on one knee rolling dice? Guess who was down there playing boo-ray with them? Right. Seven.
Starting point is 00:27:16 And that went a long way because they were showing us, okay. Yeah. Right. Go ahead. The funny thing about it is is russ has a certain way that he conducts himself he has a certain way that he does things he has a routine and i'm sure he's had this routine that he's always stuck to throughout his life throughout his throughout his tenure when it came to playing the game of football and i'm not sure if he had a great understanding on how important his presence
Starting point is 00:27:45 was to not only the players but the locker room in in in that dynamic in general but I think now he gets a better understanding on that um now on the back end you know after hearing the stories and how it's made people feel uh somewhat somewhat left out you know I I hope he I hope he hears this I hope he sees this at some point and changes that way in a sense. I don't think he needs to change as a person. Just as a locker room. Not as a person. Because as a person,
Starting point is 00:28:16 he's somebody I look up to and wish I was a little bit more like. Because the only thing I can base it on is my experience with Russ. And he's always been great with me. But when you're doing a lot, the locker room dynamic, and you're trying to win because you're trying to get 52 other guys, because Russ is the leader.
Starting point is 00:28:36 The position of quarterback in and of itself says I'm a leader. And it's not always, and it shouldn't always be like that. But the quarterback quarterback more times than not he's going to have the C on his jersey even if he's not that good that's it that's it so hopefully
Starting point is 00:28:56 I hope I agree with you I hope Russ here's kind of what Beastmo said and you see I mean think about it Russ was there for what? A little over 10, 11 years? Yeah, I think about 10. The year he leaves, they give
Starting point is 00:29:11 somebody number three. Ocho! Yeah. Come on, Ocho. I'm not saying it's supposed to be like Peyton Manning, nobody ever, I mean, the 18. But you can't wait a year. You can't wait two years right right and then you hear guys the moment listen and you hear guys once he left guys started to become more open even Pete Carroll even Tyler Lockett he tweeted it's amazing
Starting point is 00:29:40 what you can accomplish when people are not worried about who gets the credit you hear Pete Carroll starts take guys start taking the shots guys that you had never heard say anything now all of a sudden you're starting to hear and like I said half the stuff that I hear I never take it to air because I never want to make anybody look bad because I just want to base it on your play on the field. That's all. That's all I want. I know a lot of stuff about a lot of things in the locker room and a lot of things that's being said, but you know what? Hey, that's Adam Schefter job.
Starting point is 00:30:13 That's Jake. Let them be inside of, let them break that. Right. I'm going to talk about you. I'm going to talk about that. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But see, here's the thing. You get in this business long enough, you build up a certain level of credibility and a certain level of cash shape. Right. And people feel they can talk to you just like they come on my platform. People feel very, very comfortable that they can talk to me. Right.
Starting point is 00:30:37 And so it was, it was, it was a great conversation. People really, people thoroughly enjoyed it. You can tell by i enjoyed it yeah i enjoyed it by by the the the other uh sites that's picked up the clips of it so i really appreciate y'all sharing that travis kelsey asked the nfl to calm down with some of the taylor swift coverage so uh travis said they're overdoing it a little bit for sure, especially in my situation. I think they're trying to have fun with it. Man, he like this. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:31:17 The New York Post reports the NFL admits they were the ones who pushed NBC and ESPN to run ads for the Error's Tour for free. Now, when have you ever known the NFL to do anything for free? NFL don't do nothing for free because at the end of the day, the bottom line is always about a dollar. There ain't nothing free but salvation. And Creflo Dollar and Joel Osteen charged for that. So ain't nothing free. And the NFL definitely don't charge, let you run no free ads.
Starting point is 00:31:41 They don't give you no free ticket. No, sir. There's an angle. There's a different angle that we don't know you no free ticket no sir there's an angle there's a different angle that we we don't know about you know what the angle might be yeah getting taylor swift to do the halftime show talk to me now it's chess not checkers it's just chess not checkers and i know how to play and they know how to play at the end of the day did you see the team viewership team teen girls that watch the game that you appeared at up 53%? Chess, not checkers. The NFL know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:32:09 They smart. They smart. I'm surprised. And when we talked about it, and I told you about it being, even if it is somewhat real, when I talked about it being a PR and I ain't talking about Puerto Rico, when I talked about it being a PR and I ain't talking about Puerto Rico, understand the angle, understand the angle in that,
Starting point is 00:32:31 in the dynamic of the connection in the wifi that Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift even being together. Yes. But it has, and what it does for not only Travis Kelsey, but for the NFL as well. So why not take advantage of the situation? Because at the end of the day, it all comes down to one thing.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Oh, Taylor Swift? Okay, I understand if I do this, if I maneuver this way, if I move the chess piece this way, if I take the queen over here, I know I can get this. Right. You got to play the game.
Starting point is 00:32:55 You got to play the game. Because Taylor Swift gives the NFL a different set of eyeballs. Everybody, Taylor Swift, all the Taylor, half of Taylor Swift fans, probably not NFL fans. NFL's trying to get more fans trying to get more eyeballs. Taylor
Starting point is 00:33:12 Swift can do that. Did it work? It worked. What percentage were the viewership up again? What percentage was it? Teen, I think teen girls was up 53%. 53% that would have never tuned in. Man, chess, not checkers.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, of course. I mean, I know because here's the thing, and this is how we are. We love something until we get too much of it, and then we start. Because I see, oh, man, Taylor Swift, they need to stop short on Taylor Swift and stop it. Y'all know who that is, oh man, Taylor Swift, they need to stop short on Taylor Swift and stop it. Y'all know who that is. That's Taylor Swift. He playing, he playing, he just playing.
Starting point is 00:33:50 He got, he got, he got to come out and say that on the inside. I know he's feeling good. I know, I know he's feeling good. Jersey sales and shut up. Let's see, you got all them extra Instagram followers. You got your podcast new heights. You know, you man, listen, you got your commercials.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Man, child, please. Everybody's benefiting from this. Because all the NFL fans probably aren't Taylor Swift. They're like, oh, that's Taylor Swift? Oh, because now you got two behemoths together. You got the NFL, you got Taylor Swift fans. You got Taylor Swift,
Starting point is 00:34:22 you got Travis Kelsey. One of the biggest stars in the NFL. Probably her and Beyonce, one, two, however you want to rank them as far as pop sensation traveling the world. Bro. And the funny thing about it, and the funny thing about it, this is the NFL, obviously the visibility
Starting point is 00:34:37 is only so far. And then you have to, now you get Taylor Swift on your hip. Do you understand what that does for your brand globally? Yes. People that don't even watch the game of football that take Travis Kelsey, not only to a different demographic, not only to a different age group and age bracket, but it puts eyes on not just the Chiefs, but you as well and everything you have going on. Travis Kelsey, I know you're going to see this. I know you're going to see it. You got to play the game. You got to play the game the same way you do it on the field, whether it's man or whether it's
Starting point is 00:35:08 zone. You got to play the game and navigate through it the right way because you got to think long term, baby. Stay with me. Take advantage of this opportunity. Huh? Take advantage of this opportunity. Yes, sir. She's not local. She's international. She's global. We ain't
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Starting point is 00:39:06 the New York Giants apologized for booing fans. He said, the person that's commenting on my performance, what does he do? Flip hot dogs and burgers somewhere? Why would a lion concern himself with the opinion of sheep? First of all, bro, I don't know if you watch yourself on film.
Starting point is 00:39:22 You ain't no lion. You block it like a sheep. And you keep playing like that now you won't be flipping burgers but you'll be owning franchises of a burger of people that flip burgers I don't know what I don't know what he was thinking
Starting point is 00:39:39 right you see what I mean on how players it affects him even if it's fair. Think about this. Evan Neal is not playing well. Evan Neal has had an entire offseason preparing himself to get ready for football season and do the best that he can at his job. Evan Neal also has been through a training camp. Evan Neal also has been through a offseason program of 13 weeks to prepare himself for the season. So the funny thing about being frustrated, not only are they losing, but he's not playing well. And then he has to hear from the fans that he's not playing well after putting in all the work that he's put in. And it's very upsetting. At times, there are certain people. There are two
Starting point is 00:40:20 kind of people in life. There are two kind of people in life. There are people that can take criticism and use it as motivation. And there are people that when they get criticized, they fire back based off emotion. And that is what you saw from him. He's frustrated. Things aren't going well, not only for the team, but for him as well. And what's the first thing that he does is he lashes out without thinking.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Well, get your foot off social media. Play better. He didn't play. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. He didn't play well last year. He's not playing this year. So it's the fan's fault that he's not playing.
Starting point is 00:40:51 It's the fan's fault he's not playing well. Play better. Let me ask you a question. How many times when you played well, you got booed? Huh? How many times? How many times you played well and the fan booed you? Oh, I never got booed.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Whether I was playing home or away, they loved me everywhere. But even when I didn't play in the social media era, but if you're playing well, fans don't know. They might jump on your timeline and say, hey, guys, y'all, hey, 84, you're playing well, but y'all need to win some games. Right, right, right. Okay, if you're playing well.
Starting point is 00:41:24 So what does he expect the fans to do? I mean, not criticize you when you playing bad? That's the nature of the beast. That's the nature of the beast. And I think Evan Neal from this point on, and this could, you know what, this can affect people. You know that? Players.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Everybody is built differently, especially mentally. Mentally, this could tank you when you get to the point where you allow fans to affect you and your performance based off what they're saying that could be deafening and heartening I'm just saying that's a tight argument though
Starting point is 00:41:57 it's a tight argument but it can still affect you in general bro that man that's flipping burgers and hot dogs, paying his hard-earned damn money to come see your sorry butt quip walks time after time after time, block your own guy over and over again, let Daniel Graham get sacked time and time again. That guy is paying his hard-earned.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yes, Daniel Jones, excuse me. That guy that is flipping those burgers that's telling those hot dogs he's spending his hard earned damn money to come watch your sorry butt play you don't feel no thing you don't feel nothing you don't like man you know what bro you know I'm right
Starting point is 00:42:37 y'all have every right to boo cause I'm not playing well no if you lash out to try to like oh show him up oh Oh, you flipping burgers. Okay. It don't take anything to get that first big contract because you get drafted, you can fool people. Get another big
Starting point is 00:42:54 contract. That's what the lions do. Bro, you're not no lion. You're not. I don't know who told you that. Everybody want to be a lion now. And they're not no lion. You're not. I don't know who told you that. And that seems like a good... Everybody want to be a lion now. And they're not cheetahs.
Starting point is 00:43:10 They're not leopards. They're not jaguars. They just graduated to the king of the beast. Trish Williams can say I'm a lion. Zack Martin can say I'm a lion. Jason Kelsey can say he's a lion. Jason Kelsey can say I'm a lion.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Why are we on the context and the topic of animals a lion. Jason Kelsey can say he's a lion. Jason Kelsey can say I'm a lion. Bro! Why are we on the context and the topic of animals that are based on what we are when we're on the field? You know what I was? Can I tell you what I was? What? I was a killer whale. Oh, my man. I was a killer whale. But anyway,
Starting point is 00:43:41 listen, again, I know fans are upset. I know fans are upset, obviously. They should be. Yeah, they are. Ocho, the dude is 6'7 and a half, 330 pounds, and can't block the sun out of his eyes. So you damn right I'm going to be upset. Why are you being mean?
Starting point is 00:44:06 Why are you being mean? Did being mean did I lie I don't know I don't know because I haven't watched him I normally watch the skill position the quarterbacks and the running backs Evan Neal has allowed the 6 most quarterback hits and the 2nd most pressures how can I interest you in that you said number 6 the 6 most he's allowed the 6 most
Starting point is 00:44:22 quarterback hits and the 2nd most pressures so that means there are 5 people in front of him that are even worse than right he's allowed the sixth most quarterback hits and the second most pressures. So that means there are five people in front of him that are even worse than, right? And I'm sure their fans are booing their ass too. I'm talking about him. And once I find out who they are, if their fans boo them and they lash out at them, we'll get their ass on here.
Starting point is 00:44:38 But right now, we're going to... See, you know what? You know what the funny thing is? The other five, their team might be winning. But everything's magnified now because the Giants aren't winning. Obviously, they're not winning. Okay. No.
Starting point is 00:44:50 How do you know? No, they're not winning. Because, see, the argument that you're trying to use is like if the police pull you over, why you stop me all these people that's speeding? He said, you know what? I caught you. Had I not pulled you over for speeding,
Starting point is 00:45:03 I might have been able to catch one of them. Yeah. See, hey, if somebody would have lashed out at their fan base playing as pathetic as he is, maybe this would have been an opportunity to get them. But since he beat everybody to the punch, we got you. Right. Listen, I understand the fans' frustration. I understand the fans' frustration. For me as a player, it's hard for me to put myself in that situation. I mean, as a player, because I never had that actually happen to me. I do kind of somewhat empathize with him because of all the bullshit he's having to deal with
Starting point is 00:45:35 from the fans, through the media, and it's frustrating for him because he's not playing well. Wait, let me finish. You know, he's not playing well, and everybody's piling on top of him, and probably he got to a boiling point to where he lashed out at the fans. But again, I'm also on the fans' side because you're paying your hard-earned money, and then to hear a comment like that, God damn it, motherfucker, we the one paying our hard-earned money. And this economy, to come watch you play, and you talking, you know, so I understand both sides.
Starting point is 00:46:07 I'm hoping this does wonders for him. And he comes back and answers with his play on the field and gives the product that the fans want to see. Ocho, you can't play like what the elephant left on the showground and then expect me to applaud you. Let me tell you the guy. You know who got the number one guy, the guys that's in front of him? That was a good one.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Orlando Brown. He played for your bingos. He's giving up the most quarterback pressure. Your guy. Oh, yeah, now look at you. And now you wonder why Joe Burrow is like he is. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Orlando Brown. That y'all paid big money to get? Him. He playing worth it. He playing worth it, Evan Neal. And that's saying something. Because he playing like stir fry. So I don't know what your guy is.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Yeah. Yeah. I'm not going to touch that one. Your guy Moo Moo got pain or something. Nah. That's what your guy is. Guess what? We're going to be alright. We got the Cardinals this week and we're going to win. Joshua Dobbs
Starting point is 00:47:15 Joshua Dobbs is going to take a test right before he plays the Bengals. Ace the test and do a number on you guys. How you like that? You know what cures everything? You know what can cure everything and make everybody happy? It can make the fans happy. It can make the players happy.
Starting point is 00:47:31 It can make the coaches happy. You know what cures everything? Winning. Y'all not going to do that. Winning. Winning. We on the Giants. We on the Giants right now.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Winning. We on the Giants. We not on the Bengals. We not talking about Orlando Brown. I ain't talking about the Bengals. I'm talking about the Giants. Okay, well, that winning, that would cure everything. See, what you doing, you trumpeting, you caping up for somebody else and got the heat on your own, guy.
Starting point is 00:47:56 Now Orlando Brown saying he caught a straight. What you did is you shot Orlando Brown. You shot Orlando Brown in front of Evan Neal. I was throwing the bullets at him. Wait a minute. I ain't capable of nobody. I said I understand both sides. What you talking about?
Starting point is 00:48:13 If he's number two, that means somebody's worse than him. I said there are people that are playing worse. I kind of understand where you're coming from. But again, one thing cures all.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Winning. That's it. That's the only way to fix it. Play better. You play better. Yeah, that too. What role does playing better? What does that cure? Oh, it's going to come in. That's why you go out.
Starting point is 00:48:45 It protects the quarterback's ribs. It protects the quarterback getting hit in his head. Hey, listen, that's why you go out there every week. You practice Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday. You have walk-through on Saturdays, and you try to go out there and execute everything you worked on throughout the week. And you hope it pans out the way it does.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Are we sure he's practicing every day? Yeah, he is. Are we sure he's practicing? Or he's just going out there game time? Because it don't look like that. You practice. Listen, the person on the other side of the ball, them defensive ends, yeah, they get paid too.
Starting point is 00:49:11 Hold on. They get paid too. I ain't trying to hear that. I ain't trying to hear that. Not every player, Ocho. Look, the DB going to win some. Okay, granted. But damn, every play.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Look, Ocho, think about this. I played tight end at 228 pounds i had to block a reggie white a bruce smith a neil smith a derrick thomas i mean so you're not finna beat me every damn play that's not gonna happen right even at 228 i'm a big receiver but at some point in time pride gotta kick in that man i don't i know who you are i know what you represent i know you're going to be on the 75th anniversary team i know you're on the 100th anniversary team but you're not finna beat me every play i got to win some yeah you're right you're right but see mentally you built different mentally you're built different obviously this
Starting point is 00:50:01 day and age but you know the i don't want to say kids because they're not kids, but, you know, they wired differently, and I think he's going to be okay. I think he's going to be okay. I hope so. I didn't say he's not. I didn't. Listen, I'm not saying he's not playing well right now, but I'm hoping the tides turn for the better for him
Starting point is 00:50:20 and that team in general so the fans can have something to cheer about for a change. I know you saw this. Brock Purdy said he still lives and splits the rent with a roommate in San Francisco and drives a Toyota Sequoia. Ocho, I think Brock Purdy's doing an unbelievable job. But unless I'm in college,
Starting point is 00:50:41 I ain't living with no grown-ass man. Two grown-ass men should not be sharing no part, splitting no rent. I'm going to get a ain't living with no grown-ass man. Two grown-ass men should not be sharing no part, splitting no rent. I'm going to get a five. I get 350 square feet and live by myself before I split a thousand square feet with another big old rusty dude. Do you know what the cost of living is in San Francisco? I don't care if it's high to drive here.
Starting point is 00:50:59 I ain't staying. I'm coming to this. Did he say he never said his roommate was a guy, did he? Ah, stay with me. Ah, stay with me. Stop it. He never said his roommate spitting the rent. He did.
Starting point is 00:51:14 He did. No, he didn't. It's a woman. I guarantee it's a woman. Let me tell you something. It is not. He got a girlfriend. He probably got a girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And he split rent with her. It is not. You don't think so? No. I don't know. Hey. Listen, when I come home, the only dirty drawers piled up in the corner going to be mine. There ain't no other joke of dirty drawers and socks and shoes going to be in the doorway when I get there.
Starting point is 00:51:39 You might want to look at the data on the highest places to live as far as expenses are concerned, as far as trying to earn and make a living. San Francisco is expensive. It might be number one on the list of places to live. Ocho, I don't care. I live in 500 square feet in hell. I ain't sharing my place with no man. That's me. Sometimes you have to. Sometimes you got to do that when you got the money. Sometimes you have to when you got the money. Check this out. Ocho, check this out.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Real talk. I wish I had the numbers on it. How much is rent in San Francisco? Show me the numbers. I guarantee you there are people that's making less than $870,000 that have an apartment by themselves. I made $63,000 my rookie year.
Starting point is 00:52:29 $63,000. $63,000. Wait, where were you playing at? I was in Denver. You was in Denver making $63,000 a year like 30-something years ago. Yes.
Starting point is 00:52:41 We in 2023 living in the worst times of all. Let's just, okay, let's just say. Rent is crazy. Mortgages are crazy. What's the average rent in San Francisco? $4,000 a month. $4,000 a month average rent in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:52:56 It might be more than that. He got a two-bedroom. I'm going to say $4,000. I'm going to say $4,000. No more than $4,500 average rent cost. No, no, not in San Francisco, it's a different ball game please somebody do your homework for me real quick and give me the information two bedrooms, San Francisco
Starting point is 00:53:14 no, they ain't saying no two bedrooms, he by himself you just said he got a roommate and they're sleeping in the same bed the average rent in San francisco is three thousand a month so you know that's a lie that no then no no hold on ocho let's just say we go get a let's just say we go get a nice one bedroom for forty five hundred you know what ocho i'm gonna say you know what i'm gonna get a wash and dry in my apartment so i'm gonna bump it up to five thousand you mean to tell me a man is making $870,000,
Starting point is 00:53:46 can't afford a $5,000 a month apartment by himself? Obviously not. Obviously not because that's why he's doing it. That is a real – as a matter of fact – That's a good story. Oh, do you see Brock Purdy? Oh, he's staying – he rents an apartment. He's all about the game.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Stop it. Miss me with that. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ain't nothing wrong. What did all about the game. Stop it. Miss me with that. Ain't nothing wrong. Where did I stay my first two years in the NFL? Let's not forget. Oh, you forgot. Because I wanted to save money because buying a place or renting a place was pointless and unnecessary when all the amenities I needed was in the stadium?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Average rent for a one-bedroom in San Francisco is $3,000. It's the third most expensive city in the U.S. behind Jersey City and New York City. So I just say the average price is $3,000 for a one-bedroom. I bumped it up another $2,000 just because I want him to stay in the nicest place in San Francisco. Whatever you just read is not up-to-date information on how much it costs to stay in San Francisco, and there's no way in hell that New York is in front of San Francisco. And what was it? What was
Starting point is 00:54:53 the first? Who was first? Jersey City. Jersey City? Who the hell live in Jersey City? What are we talking about? Okay, this was published April 30 of 2023. So maybe the price have gone up another $10,000 since then. So you want to try another angle? No, but I just understand.
Starting point is 00:55:13 I understand where he's coming from because it's something I did as well. He is not into spending money. And in order to save money, even though you make an $870,000, how can I do it? Easy. Split the rent with somebody else. Boom. And going about my business. Let me ask you a question. If he's trying to save money, why the hell did he get a Toyota Sequoia that gets 13 miles in the city and seven in the highway when gas is $7 a gallon out here? Explain that. He's driving his old Toyota Sequoia from college. It's not a new Toyota.
Starting point is 00:55:41 What are you saying? It's the fact of the matter is that it's $13. Hold on. Do you understand how much gas prices are here in L.A.? The gas price in L.A. is $7 a gallon. Oh, so now you have an understanding of the gas prices, but when it comes to rent, what's the difference? Oh, I'm going to save on rent, but I'm going to splurge on gas. What's more important, a place to lay your head or getting from point A to point B?
Starting point is 00:56:04 You got to go to work. You know what? You can sleep in that truck and go right on to work. If you want to save money, do that. Sleep in the truck and go to work. Listen, I commend Brock Purdy. I commend Brock Purdy. All of us don't want to just waste money,
Starting point is 00:56:20 you know, and just... Ocho, I ain't say go get no palatial estate. I ain't say go get a Steph and Aisha Curry place, a $30 million pad. I ain't say get a penthouse that's costing me 15, 20,000. He'll be able to, you know, what's going to happen when he gets that money, when he hits that 200, $250 million contract, he's still going to be stuck in the same ways. And that money will probably last his grandkids and his grandkids,
Starting point is 00:56:43 grandkids and his grandkids' grandkids after that. So I think it's a good thing. It's commendable to me. Very commendable. Listen, I'm not saying he got to pay for a lot of young women college tuition. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I ain't saying he got to do that. But I'm saying, bro, you can get you a $3,000, make it $870,000. You can get you a $3,000, $4,000. I went $5,000. And it's for a year. Right. But you have to understand, that's your way of thinking.
Starting point is 00:57:14 That's your way of thinking. This is Brock Purdy. Don't be cheap to yourself. Don't be cheap to yourself. Be as cheap as you want to, but don't be cheap to yourself. Brock, I know you're going to see this. Boy, I love you, baby. I love you and everything you're doing, man. Hey, me and you, we got to write a book together on financial literacy. I think we can get this done.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Holler at me when you see me. My number's still the same. Yeah. Coach O. Yeah, I like that. Way to go, Brock. I just want to know who promised you tomorrow. Huh?
Starting point is 00:57:39 Who promised you tomorrow? Nobody promised me tomorrow, but I know one thing. When I was born, I had an expiration date. Yeah. But God said- Do you know the date? Do you know the date? I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:57:50 I'm going to tell you right now. Let me finish now. When I was born, we all come with an expiration date. Yeah. But God told me he's not through with me yet. So I know I still got some time left. Because I'm not finished because he's not through with me yet. I'm not even going to preach today because it's not Sunday,
Starting point is 00:58:08 but you know where I'm going with this. Yeah. Stay with me now. He told you got time left. He told you that yesterday. It might be today. Huh? Listen, he's not done with me. You heard exactly what I said. He's not done. He's not through with me yet.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Speaking of being frugal, Derrick Henry says he's going to hold off on jersey swaps because of the cost. Now players are required to pay for the jerseys when doing swaps, and the costs have increased recently. Titan players have to pay upwards of $350 per jersey. So you can understand how expensive that can get if you do it 17 times.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Mmm. You see? You see how everyone is being financially conscious now? You see? They worried about paying a $350 jersey 17 times. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Hold on. Think about this here. I love my ballplayers for this, man. I love y'all for this. No, I ain't got no problem with the ballplayers. The problem that I have with the NFL. Now, you're going to give Taylor Swift free airtime. $400,000, $500,000 for a 30-second spot.
Starting point is 00:59:18 And you say NBC, CBS, Fox, ESPN, can y'all do that for free? But you're going to charge the players who you're building the backbone off of, you're going to charge them $350. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, let's rewind. I understand where you're going with this.
Starting point is 00:59:31 I understand where you're going. Obviously, we are the ones, the backbone of the NFL. We are the meat and potatoes of the NFL. But we have to understand something. At the end of the day, it's about the bottom line. And there's one – So when was it about the bottom line? Let me finish. The Taylor's about the bottom line. And there's one. So when was it about the bottom line? Let me finish.
Starting point is 00:59:45 The Taylor Swift versus the NFL players. Which one moves the needle the most and can do so in a short amount of time? And nobody else that's putting on a helmet can. Just answer the question. Answer the question. Which one could move the needle the most? There you go. There you go.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Optics matter. Hold on. Remember the optics I just told you about Russell Wilson how Pete Carroll optics to the other player so who's more important a quarterback or a wide receiver or DB who's more important
Starting point is 01:00:18 the quarterback obviously optics matter so now the players are looking hold on hold on hold on Ocho so hold on Optics matter. I understand. So now the players are looking. Hold on. Hold on, Ocho. You're letting somebody. So hold on. Ocho, just give me a second.
Starting point is 01:00:32 I'm talking about the 1,500 players. Which one of those 1,500 players? Okay, I'm going to pull the top 10 players together. If I pull the top 10 players together, you think they got more money than Taylor Swift? Absolutely not. Okay, so the players are saying, hold on. You're going to head crack me for $350,000 and you're going to give somebody
Starting point is 01:00:47 that's worth half a bill, you're going to give her a discount. As a matter of fact, you're going to give her a discount, you're going to let her have it for free. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying the player. Hey, chess, not checkers. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Bottom line at the end of the day. Tyreek Hill just got you all set at 500 for no socks. How many times you got fined for no socks? How many times you got untucked jersey? Listen, untucked jersey, streamer towel, gold cleats, blue. Remember I used to wear the orange and the orange chin strap, the black chin
Starting point is 01:01:20 strap. I didn't care. Take the money. I don't care. And I never stopped. Hold on. Take my money. I don't care. And I never stopped. Take my money. Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. Either you a cyclop or octopus or something, because you're speaking out both sides of your neck. One minute, you'll be approved. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:01:37 No, no, no. Hold on. Give me a second. Now, they find you every time untucked jersey. They find you when you're wearing the chin strap. They find you for all this, and you're saying, takeed jersey. They find you when you run the chin strap. They find you for all this, and you say, take the money. Why are you doing that? Yeah, because I'm playing. No, I am frugal.
Starting point is 01:01:52 Listen to me. Stay with me now. Stay with me. Let me talk to you real quick. When I'm playing the game of football, I'm from Miami. I'm from Liberty City. It's a beautiful place called Dade County. And when we play the game of football, it's about having fun.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It's about entertaining. It's about going out and looking good and doing it your way and showing up. So when it comes to that, the NFL is going to do what they think they can do best to keep us under control. So what's the first thing they do? They take what they think we value most. Stay with me now. They were fining me for enjoying the game of football the way I like to and dress the way I felt I should to be able to do my job at my best because I felt good and looked good doing it.
Starting point is 01:02:30 That's the only reason. There's a difference. No, there's not. Listen to me. When it comes to other things like renting, buying houses and buying cars and buying jewelry, all that stuff, all that stuff, that shit ain't matter. But when it came to football,
Starting point is 01:02:42 I want to enjoy the game playing it the same way I did as a little kid. That's all. That's all. And you're not going to control me. You're not going to control me by taking money. Ocho, that doesn't make any sense. It makes sense to me. You don't get to say, you know what?
Starting point is 01:02:56 I don't want to spend money on an apartment, so I'm going to live in the facility, but I'm going to give the NFL $7,000, $10,000 of my dollars every week. That's $160 over 16 games. You tell me the sense that makes. So the money that you saved by staying in the facility, you gave to the NFL times 2X. And I got it back times 5X in the offseason.
Starting point is 01:03:20 So I wasn't tripping. Ocho, you can't get back money. You was going to make that money up by doing the offseason program anyway. You lost $160. Nocho, you can't get back money. You was going to make that money up by doing the offseason program anyway. You lost 160. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not talking about the offseason program.
Starting point is 01:03:31 I made it up in the offseason. I work year-round. I didn't play football. I work year-round. So how do you make that up? You going to get those endorsements anyway. You lost 160.
Starting point is 01:03:40 You can't get up. You can't get back what's lost. No, no, you're not understanding all the stuff I had going on outside of the game, outside of football. And you still would have had that going on with an extra 160 in your pocket. So make it make sense. Listen,
Starting point is 01:03:55 stay with me, baby. You're not listening to me. It made sense to me because I played the game a certain way, right? When I was a little shorty. When I was legit. So when I got to the NFL and you're paying me millions of dollars, when you get to the NFL, it's all about control, trying to conduct and control the players to their satisfaction. But I wanted to play it my way and dress the way I did when I was at Miami Beach Senior High and when I played for Liberty City Optimist. And that is what I chose to continue to do.
Starting point is 01:04:24 The NFL don't want y'all coming out there looking like an all-tournament team because the next thing somebody was going to do was an all-tournament team. One of you got on Adidas. One of you got on Puma. One of you got on Reeboks. One of you got a beach tower hanging on your back.
Starting point is 01:04:39 And so the NFL said, no, we want some uniformity. We want a uniform code. And guess what you could have done? You could have bought 500 smoke detector batteries. Yeah, I did. I did. You notice you don't hear no chirping no more, though. I'm about to have.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I'm glad. Yeah, yeah. I'm glad. Listen, but I stole the battery out of the smoke detector in my hotel and brought it home. You know they watch this. No, they ain't see that. No, they watching this.
Starting point is 01:05:07 You told them. I know, but it was all the way in Philly. They ain't going to know. You going back, you stay at that same hotel when you go back to Philly. I know, but they ain't going to know because it's going to be chirping. So they just, I know, but they just going to change the battery. They ain't going to know. I just incriminated myself, huh?
Starting point is 01:05:23 You sure did. Damn. I mean, you sure did. They did know, but they do now. That's why I never do nothing wrong. My bad. That's a good thing. You don't do anything wrong. You shouldn't have. I mean, since you told us
Starting point is 01:05:37 you took the hotel battery, you want to tell us the hotel? Huh? You want to tell us the hotel? Hell, you already told us you took the battery. So whatever hotel he's staying in on Monday night, he got the battery. Yeah, the Western. It's cool. I know they didn't replace it by now.
Starting point is 01:05:51 They probably charged the card, though. Like incidentals. You think that go with incidentals? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Well, we're going to put that in there. At Western, Chad Ochocinco Johnson stole y'all battery. Y'all smoking a lot.
Starting point is 01:06:04 You know what else I took? I don't mean to be telling you my business and my personal stuff, but we family. But, you know, when I go to hotels, right, you know, when I pack, I always travel real light. So I have extra room in my suitcase. I always steal two washcloths. That's a shame.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I mean, that's what you did in college. I mean, bad ass. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen. I got to marry y'all bread spread right now. My bed at home in Glenville. Hey, see? See, we here.
Starting point is 01:06:33 You can do all kinds of things with that bed. You can smoke. You can smoke. You can try to start a fire on that thing. That thing ain't going to burn nothing. I don't know what they made that thing out of. That thing is fire retardant. Man, look here. I go into a burning building. I don't know what they made that thing out of. That thing is fire retardant. Man, look here.
Starting point is 01:06:46 I go into a burning building. I don't need no fire. I just wrap myself up with one more Marriott blanket. I'm going to spread, spread. Come for this. And come right up out of there. It's like, hey, that's what I would do. Hey, listen, man.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Ain't nothing worse than this. And I know people are going to laugh at me. They're going to talk about, man, what you doing? You know how many people done wiped their cell phone? Like, man, what you doing? You know how many people done wiped their self on it? Like, man, listen, when you buy new towels and you try to dry off and all the lint from the towel still stuck on you, man. But that's why you wash them first. I can tell.
Starting point is 01:07:15 You don't know nothing about it. Listen, you know how many times you have to wash a brand new washcloth and towel before it's all rickety and rough and perfect? How many washcloths and towels do you got? You should be able to wash. I mean, you should have at least at the bare minimum three sets. At bare minimum. Listen, I have way more than three sets.
Starting point is 01:07:35 You have to think how much I travel. So every time I travel to a different hotel, I always steal two sets. Man, they white. I mean, I bet them towels look like you've been changing the whole. Listen, you know, why is that is the most humbling experience. You know that? We family. I could talk to y'all, right?
Starting point is 01:07:52 One of the things that has always been the most humbling to me is to get out the shower, been in there 20 minutes bathing, making sure you hit all the important spots, and you get off and dry off with your towel, and that bitch still come out black sometimes. Like, why is that? I don't know. You got a mirror close by? No, I ain't got no mirror close by,
Starting point is 01:08:13 but I know you ain't from the city and say that you drive with no white towel and you don't show up. No, I don't. Not at home, man. No.
Starting point is 01:08:19 What you use at home? What color your towel? I got blue, I got brown, I got green, I got black. Hey, do me a favor. You get a white towel just so it can humble you real quick. No. That shit's so humbling, man.
Starting point is 01:08:30 When I'm home, I want the experience of home. That's why I don't have anything that's like hotel related in my home. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah. I like where you're going with that one. I know. I like where you're going with that one. I mean, I don't know how it don't take you that long.
Starting point is 01:08:46 You taking a bird bath anyway. Who? You. What do you mean? You know how birds get in the little bird bath they see out in the front of the yard? The bird like. Right. And they get in shape.
Starting point is 01:08:58 You up out of there. Matter of fact, I'm so glad that you're speaking of showering, right? I'm not even home, right? Let me tell you another thing I used to do, you know, throughout my tenure when I was single. Like to save money at home. Like, fellas, if you watch this, stay with me now. Always take a shower at your girl's house.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Always take a shower at your girl's house. Use her electricity. You know, just do everything there to keep your bills down at home. And that's something that I used to do. I used to finagle a lot of situations like that. Like right now, she's sleeping right now. She can't hear me. Like, I be here in Tampa, right? At my old lady house, right?
Starting point is 01:09:34 Dude, what's today, the 5th? Today, the 6th. Guess how much my water bill was. Guess how much my water bill was. What? $40. I sound like that, too. Hey, she don't even know.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I've been like, ooh, boom. But it's cool, though. And she paid the bills. That's all right. She can get it back at you. When you don't sign that prenup, when you sign that prenup, she get it back. No, sir. Hey, I got another one. I know we
Starting point is 01:10:06 didn't veer it off into life now. I got a birthday coming up. You know, you know what I get you? No, no, no. It's her birthday. It's her birthday. And I need help. I need help. Yeah, I ain't gonna lie to you because what do I buy somebody
Starting point is 01:10:23 that has everything? More of everything. That's what women ask me. Shannon, you got everything. What do you buy somebody that has everything? I say more of everything. Whatever I got, give me more of it. Give me an idea because whatever you say, that's what I'm
Starting point is 01:10:39 going to get. Her birthday, October 16th. So whatever you say get, I'm getting. I asked her 32 times. get her birthday october 16th so whatever you say get i'm getting because i asked i asked i asked 32 times i asked her 30 times what you want for your birthday and why is it with women they never ever understand oh i don't know just give me some nice yes i don't want to surprise you got that kind of time at all and i don't want to buy your a 15 girlfriend. Hey, well, what? Hey, well, what's your real won't? Oh, you know what? She had an eye on this. Yeah. But I closed my eyes because I saw that price. I closed my eyes when I saw that price. So that ain't it.
Starting point is 01:11:17 So, I mean, when you were dating, how did you navigate in figuring out what to get your partner? I'm terrible. I'm terrible. We in the same boat. You know what? I called my grandmother. I said, I called my grandmother when I started making some real good money. I said, Granny, what you want for Christmas? You know what my granny told me? What? Money. She said, it's the right size and it's the right color. So I just started getting people money. So $5,000, $10,000, whatever you need, $15,000, whatever you need for your birthday, go ahead.
Starting point is 01:11:51 If you can't get it with $10,000 or $15,000, I don't know what to tell you. Wait, that's not disrespectful though? Man, look here. You know what I like? This is what I do, Ocho. Go get what you want. Because if I get something and then I look, know what I like? This is what I do, Ocho. Go get what you want. Because if I get something and then I look,
Starting point is 01:12:07 yeah, I like it. Now that's going to make me not want to get you anything or give you anything. That's why I'm asking for your help. Because if I go get something based on my taste and I have an understanding
Starting point is 01:12:19 of what she like, but she already got everything. So if I bring something in here, you know, yeah, I get what? Her maids. Now she she got she got two of those already got everything. So if I bring something in here... Get an Hermes. Yeah, I get... What? An Hermes. Nah, she got two of those already, though.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Get another one. Get her that croc one. Oh, nigga. That croc one? Yeah, see? Get her that one. Wait, how much is the croc one? How much is the croc one?
Starting point is 01:12:41 They're going to start out by 50 bands. What kind of band? Fam U? No, no. That's the March of 100. That's half of the March of 100. Wait, 50, like 50,000? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:58 But you're going to be in there. You're going to be in there like swimwear. For a purse? For a purse. And it ain't got nothing in it it don't come with 49,000 in it either you dead ass or you just bullshitting though like dead ass
Starting point is 01:13:10 serious I I laugh I wouldn't lie to you 50,000 for a purse proctor man what are you looking at tell him
Starting point is 01:13:21 ask him tell him the used one how much the used one uh now let me tell you now if you mess around and you want to get the Himalayan tell him the used one. How much is the used one? Now, let me tell you. If you mess around and you want to get the Himalayan, there's a bag that's Hermes Himalayan.
Starting point is 01:13:33 I ain't never like Himalaya, like the same one that from Martin. And you need to have money stacked that high in order to be able to get it. Because they're about $300,000 to $500,000. Man, come on, man. Go ahead now.
Starting point is 01:13:49 Go ahead now. Go ahead now. That's a Rolls Royce now. Come on now. But here's the thing, Ocho. If you just can't go and earn mares and get a bag, you got to get on a list. Or you got to know somebody that's on
Starting point is 01:14:06 the list to be able to get it for you. So you just can't walk into Hermes store like you can walk into Rolls Royce and you're like, I want that Rolls Royce and get it. Right, right. You can't do that with Hermes. They'll give a damn who you are. Wait, you got to get on a list. So is that their
Starting point is 01:14:21 way to keep everything exclusive? Yes. Well, I have a question for you. Can I, I have a question a list. So is that their way to keep everything exclusive? Yes. Well, I have a question for you. I have a question. So if they have a list and you have to get on a list to keep everything inclusive, how come all the people on IG got Hermes bags? They probably bought them second hand. Man, look here. I don't believe nothing on IG. Because if I just went by IG, I'm trying to be like, the unemployment rate is what it is. Inflation is what it is because everybody's living a
Starting point is 01:14:49 glorious life. Everybody's got flawless skin. Everybody's got a Bentley truck or a Maybach. So, IG is full of caca. I don't know, man, but I'm really stuck and I normally play around, I know I play
Starting point is 01:15:06 around a lot, but... What about a watch? What about a Patek or an AP or a Rolly? AP. She got a Rolly already. AP, that's a good one. Get an AP or a Patek. Alright, what's the price point? Like, don't, come on now, don't
Starting point is 01:15:21 hit me across the head now. I mean, you're talking about exclusive or exclusive, but there are those other watches that you got to be on the list to get. Why? What is with this list shit? Because here's the thing. And what happened was,
Starting point is 01:15:36 remember during the pandemic, everything shut down. So production of all those watches shut down. So now it backlogged everything. So now everybody, a watch that costs you $70,000, people trying to get $210,000 for it. A watch that costs $70,000 or $210,000 now? Trying to get $210,000, $230,000, $300,000.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Do me a small favor real quick. What time you got? What time is it right now? Almost 20 minutes to 10. That ain't cost me $70,000. That was free right there. That ain't cost $210,000. That was free right there.
Starting point is 01:16:16 I'm just telling you, Ocho. One of the few times I spend money is the holidays and birthdays. And on your girl. And on my girl. That's the only time. I'm back. And she knows that you're puke. times I spend money is the holidays and birthdays. And on your girl. That's the only time. And she knows that you're puke. So she's expecting something really, really high-end, Ocho. Because that's the way I move.
Starting point is 01:16:33 Last year, I went crazy. What'd you get her? The Maldives. How you say it? Maldives. We stayed at the Maldives at the Underwater Hotel. $50,000 a night. Underwater.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Yeah, man. Yeah, man. I went crazy last year. So now I'm like, well, how do I compete with what I did last year? Man, I would have gotten back and said, that's fraudulent. That credit card, that's fraudulent.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I don't know who. Somebody forged my name and everything. They even cut their hair and they look like me on camera. Yeah, it was. $50,000 a night? Yeah, we only stayed in there three nights. The underwater. And then we went to the cabana.
Starting point is 01:17:17 The only place I'm playing $50,000 a night is heaven. That's all I got. I got $200. But if he say $125,000... You'll like it, though. You'll like it. It was a great experience. It's something that I had
Starting point is 01:17:31 never experienced before. And being submerged under the water, everything was under the water. The hotel. I mean, not the hotel. The room itself. Ojo, I'm about to go upstairs.
Starting point is 01:17:40 That was nice. And they're going to call me $50,000 a night. I know, but it was the birthday, though. I know. See? It was the birthday, though. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:17:49 OK, so now what do you do? What do you do to top that? I'm stuck. That's why I came to you, because you have more experience than I do in that area. And you're not scared to spend no money. No, no. Because you fly private. Yeah, I ain't never been scared to spend no money.
Starting point is 01:18:06 See, there we go. I'll give you money. You go buy what you want, what you need. Okay, so how about I do that? I give her money, let her go get what she want. But how that's going to work when she make more than me right now? Hey, you got to bite the bullet and say, damn, man. Because, I mean,, give 100 bands cash.
Starting point is 01:18:27 Where the hell am I going to get 100 grand cash from? They ain't got that as a goddamn bank. Yes, they do. You order it. I'm with you when you're right. Okay, I'm going to try that tomorrow, then. I'm going to try that tomorrow. I'm just saying.
Starting point is 01:18:41 I'm going to try that tomorrow. Okay, I'm going to let you know. Well, probably when we get to third week of October, I'm going to let you know. Probably when we get to third week of October, I'm going to let you know how it go. Just go ahead and order it. Since I'm going to come in on this date. Right, I'm going to go tomorrow. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 01:18:53 And they'll have it. Okay, bet. Ah, she going to let me get some. And the funny thing about it is you can tell this is new to me. I don't move like that. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't move like that. I don't maneuver like that. So I had no idea. But see the thing is my kids, my kids want the money. They rather have the money to go do and pay.
Starting point is 01:19:16 Yeah. Cause they're going to pay, you know, I'm going to pay six months of my rent. I'm going to pay this. I'm going to get that, you know know me get me buying them something like okay I still got I got a $5,000 purse but I got rent or I got a car payment so my kids
Starting point is 01:19:36 do it like that I'm a terrible like I said I hate I don't do rejection well and I can read body language really well so I can tell read body language really well. So I can tell if you're really excited. Yeah, I'm like. Or you're like, that's nice.
Starting point is 01:19:49 Yes. Thank you, Shannon. Like, oh. Now, see, now you don't make me want to get you nothing. Right. Okay. Another big announcement came out today. Joel Embiid commenced to play for Team USA in the 2024 Olympics.
Starting point is 01:20:04 He was born in Cameroon. He has dual citizenship with France and the USA. And obviously it was very tough. Does he play for his native homeland, Cameroon, or does he play for the French team, the French national team, or does he play for Team USA? Son was born here. Saints wants to dedicate
Starting point is 01:20:20 because his son was born here. Joel Embiid has never competed at the international level due to injuries uh but obviously health will be the the utmost concern for all the guys because we see a lot of guys lebron says okay hey i think i might want to be in kevin durant steph curry devin booker a lot of guys want to commit because they're like look we want to put this once and for all. We steal the king of the mountain. Right, right, right. When it comes to basketball. Right.
Starting point is 01:20:49 So what do you think about Joel Embiid playing for Team USA in 2024 Olympics? I think based on why he said he wants to play for it instead of his native homeland of Cameroon or the French team, I mean, that's on him. That's a decision that he's made. I'm not sure how long he's been here in the States, but I mean, this happens a lot, obviously, with soccer, with many choosing to play elsewhere as opposed to where they were born.
Starting point is 01:21:17 And I think it's a good thing. It's a good thing for us, especially the USA basketball team, based on what we've done previously and struggled. We were good and terrible this year. It was terrible. But I think all the players, it's funny that all the players, all the great players, all at once decided that they want to play in Paris in 2024. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:40 Do you think they had this all planned? I mean, think about Paris. I heard Paris is really nice. I mean, most of the guys are married. If they're not, you know, you find your little booth thing and go over there to Eiffel Tower. You can put the locks on the bridge.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Yeah. You know, I don't know. I'm mad at going over to Paris because I heard Paris is really nice. I'm thinking about taking me a trip over there with you. You ain't been to Paris? I ain't never been there. You been? Yeah, listen, I've been to Paris multiple times.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Obviously, I was able to see Champions League last year. I was able to see Real Madrid and Liverpool play in the finals. Okay, okay. Yeah, the traveling I do, I had her thinking she's asleep right now. I had her thinking I was taking her to Paris. I'm like, hey, baby, I'm going to take you to Paris, right?
Starting point is 01:22:24 So, boom, we get off the plane. She had no idea. And I saw the sign. I said, oh, my God. Girl, look, Champions League. It's a soccer game here. Not knowing I had already bought the tickets. So she's thinking I'm taking her to Paris.
Starting point is 01:22:36 But I was really taking myself to go out to Champions League. So I just knocked two birds out with one stone. Two birds, one stone. One stone. And that was it. Yeah. I like the way you think. I like. One stone. And that was it. Yeah. I like the way you think. I like the way you think.
Starting point is 01:22:47 That was a nice one there. That was a nice one there. It was a good one. It was a good one. You got to go back and say, you know, I want to go out,
Starting point is 01:22:52 I want to go to Paris, you know, I want to go to fashion week. You know, I got some things, you know, I got some things on my bucket list.
Starting point is 01:22:58 You be sharp. You be sharp too. You be sharp. I'm a lazy dresser. I'm not really in the fashion like that. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:08 Listen, I put on clothes every blue moon. Like it's time, you know, dinner time. I just can't, man, because fashion is such an expensive taste. Such an expensive taste. And it doesn't always have to be expensive. You know, it's based on you. You know what? We might need to hold off. We need to put pieces together.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Let's hold off on the Paris because they got a bed bug outbreak. So I think we're going to hold off until they get that under control. They got a bed bug outbreak? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's bad. It's bad right now. Yeah, I ain't with that. I ain't with that.
Starting point is 01:23:40 So we're going to hold off on Paris until they get that bed bug thing under control. Once they get that under control, count your boy in. You've been to Rome? Oh, yeah. Oh, your boy went to Rome. Let me tell you, that's the last time I took a vacation. I flew in
Starting point is 01:23:59 to Rome. The young lady that I was going to see. Wait a minute. Talk to me now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? She's back at the airport. We back at the airport. And we took a train to Florence. So we's all through the countryside. You know, we was in one of them old
Starting point is 01:24:15 die cards. You know, they bringing us. You know, they bringing us and bringing us stuff. I'm like, you know, I'm kicked up. I'm like, okay, I can get you to this. So we spent like, yeah, we spent like three, I think three, we spent three nights in Florence, and then we came back to
Starting point is 01:24:31 Rome for like three more nights. So I was over there about a week. Damn. I was over there about a week. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Y'all, have y'all, y'all met previous, before the trip? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was, she was, she was studying. Okay, yeah. She was studying. Okay, okay. She was studying abroad. Okay.
Starting point is 01:24:48 Well, I'm glad you mentioned that. So how come she not the one? Man, that was so long. You know how long ago 1996 was? Oh, this was in 96? You got me thinking this was like last year sometime. No, that was the last time I've been on vacation, bro.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Oh, man, Rome done changed so much, man. You got to go. I know. As a matter of fact, somebody just told me, say, the carts, the trains, they're much nicer. So it got me to thinking, you know, I might want to recreate that. You know, recreate that moment. Right. Matter of fact, and What you need to do is
Starting point is 01:25:25 you need to create it with somebody new and give them the experience to enjoy with you out of town that's never been the wrong. What? And I'm going to find that for you. You know damn well
Starting point is 01:25:34 I ain't going to take the person that I met, that I met in 96 back over there. No, that's what I said. I got somebody for you. Just stay with me. No, I don't need you. I got somebody.
Starting point is 01:25:43 I got somebody. But I got me somebody. I got somebody in mind. Just stay with me. No, I don't need you. I got somebody. I got somebody. But I got me somebody. I got somebody in mind. Oh, God. Hey, her last name Gomez? Ah, shh. Oh, hell no. I got somebody.
Starting point is 01:25:59 You know, Ocho, I was thinking about that. As a matter of fact, I was thinking about that. I was like, man, that was nice. Ocho, I was thinking about that I was like man that was not it was oh I ain't gonna lie that was not it was nice because I had never done anything like that before right right so now you know we're going through the country because I've seen movies where you know the company staring out the windows you're like look honey and that was me yeah yeah look at that look at the cattle and the horse in the countryside and I'm like you know I'm like real touristy I was into it and you know you gotta work
Starting point is 01:26:28 I had to watch out for the pickpocket I said hey I said bro I ain't about that I'm not one of your little mofos out they bump right into you and you have no idea what's going on I was just waiting for somebody to bump me and I was like what
Starting point is 01:26:43 it would have been two bumps. He bumped into me and then he'd hit the floor. I go ahead. Hey, little kid, don't come panhandling. I ain't got nothing for you. Go ahead on. Don't play with me. But you know what, Ocho? You got me thinking. I'm due for a vacation.
Starting point is 01:27:00 I'm due for a vacation. There you go. Then listen to me. At some point in time you might have to have a new host for about a month i'm going somewhere for a month i i got it i could i could take care of it all by myself i could run the show i could take care of myself i got hey hey i better try to come back to okinoccio show careful because you on the bull job i'll leave you in charge. Bro, what happened to our show? You leave me in charge.
Starting point is 01:27:29 Trust me, this thing going to be pumping. We going to be pumping. Oh, God, how bursty. Oh, yeah. Yes, sir. I got you. But you know what? You know, Goyard.
Starting point is 01:27:39 You like Goyard. Your girl, I know she like Goyard, right? Not that. I got a few of their pieces. Now we talking. They fake fake though. No, no, no. They came from Canal Street right there in New York.
Starting point is 01:27:51 What Canal Street? In New York. You mean New Orleans? No, they got another one in New York. Swap me. I ain't never been out there. I ain't never been to New York. Swap me, Louis. Nah, I can't do that out there. I ain't never been to New York. You ain't got no swap meet? Swap meet Louis? Nah, nah. Nah, I can't do that.
Starting point is 01:28:05 I can't do that. You know, because what I do is, is when she buy her Goyard pieces, I be using them like they mine. Oh, yeah. I like that. I got a couple of pieces. We got a couple of pieces.
Starting point is 01:28:18 I'm saying, but that's Ocho. Bro, I ain't saying go out there and just splurge, but treat yourself. You work hard. Think about it. Ocho, you work Ocho't saying go out there and just flirt, but treat yourself. You work hard. Think about it. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Ocho, you work Ocho. You working four nights a week.
Starting point is 01:28:30 Yeah. Yeah. And matter of fact, I don't even consider it work because I'm actually enjoying what I'm doing. Yeah. I look forward to Sunday, Mondays, and Thursdays because this is enjoyable. Talking football, obviously, you know, talking about the game. But then we get into that section about life. Life.
Starting point is 01:28:47 And just, like, yeah, this is enjoyable. This is, I can't even really put into words on how much I look forward to doing this because it gives me, this is my outlet. This is my sense of peace away from everything. This is like me being on the field on Sundays again. Because I know once I'm on that field, I can just be myself. I can let my head down and just go. I ain't got nothing to worry about. I can be vulnerable.
Starting point is 01:29:13 I'm comfortable. I like being in this motherfucking space. I like that. Getting nice things, that's all cool but at the end of the day, I wear it once or I use it once or twice and then what? money going down the drain that's why i really never been into you know all that nah man i just it's the same with me you know what um i don't really buy a whole lot you know um i try to you know make sure my family's taking care of you know my brother my
Starting point is 01:29:43 sister my mom, my kids. And so it came. I hadn't really bought anything in about four years. And so this this Dodge Dodge came out with the the Black Ghost. It's the last year of the gas model challenger. They're going to the electric model. And I was like, I remember I was in my financial guy, my my age of Marvin Demoff. I was in his office. I was like, look at this, Marvin. I said, this is the last year they're making this car. He's like, they're nice.
Starting point is 01:30:12 You ought to get it. I was like, I said, they only made 300 of them, but I'm like, nah. He said, go on and get it. He said, he said, let me show you why you should get it. So he turned it around. I was like, I got that much? He's yeah treat yourself i'm like okay i called a guy hey we good to go he don't know i had already ordered it anyway i like that i like that i like that you know what i'm gonna do you
Starting point is 01:30:43 know what i'm gonna to do for myself? What is it? I promise you this. Every Christmas to pass, I don't know how many Christmases it's been, I've never done nothing for myself. I think this Christmas, I'm going to take your word for it, this Christmas I'm going to treat myself to something.
Starting point is 01:30:59 I'm going to treat myself to something really nice. You're making good money. You're making good money with Uncle Ocho. Listen, I'm making good money. You're making good money with Uncle Ocho. Listen, I'm making good money. God has been good to me. I made sure I said, hey, I said, look, we're a partnership. Yeah. Yeah, you got me moving.
Starting point is 01:31:17 I'm listening. I feel like Pablo Escobar a little bit. You hear me? I feel like Pablo a little bit. It's only going to get bigger and better, bro. That's it. That's it. I feel like Pablo a little bit. It's only going to get bigger and better, bro. That's it. I'm right here for the bag. I'm working behind the scenes trying to get this thing bigger and bigger and bigger. Yeah, listen.
Starting point is 01:31:33 When you drop a bag, when you drop 100 bands on Wife, you're like, that ain't nothing. I'll make that up next week. You right. I like that. That's why I'm going to do it. That's why I'm going to do it. I appreciate why I'm going to do it. I appreciate that. I appreciate you for that.
Starting point is 01:31:47 My whole thing was is that if I ever got in a situation where I could help people out and you's one of the actually you're the only person that's like, you know, and when people they like I said, look, I want to do something else and like, you know, let's
Starting point is 01:32:03 talk about it. You know, what if we went live after Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night game? It's like, they, it's like, I said, look, I want to do something else. And like, you know, let's talk about it. You know, what if we went live after Sunday night, Monday night, Thursday night game? It's like, well, who'd you want to do it with? And I said, uh, Ocho. Yes. Ocho, Ocho, who? I said, Ocho Seco. It's like, but what if he, what if he says, no, I think we should, we should expand the net. I said, no. Say no? I said, look here. They said expand the net. I said, no, I'm throwing one line in the water. I said, that's the fish I want to catch.
Starting point is 01:32:33 And so I called Dougie. You know I know Dougie. Dougie, I've known Dougie 25 years, 20 years. 20. And I called Dougie. I said, Dougie, I got this idea. I said, i think ocho will be perfect for it are you interested he said it's funny that you say ocho gonna be he in town i said can y'all
Starting point is 01:32:51 do dinner tomorrow i mean can you we do lunch he's like what time i say this time we showed up i said bro i gave you i said bro this is what i'm looking to do x y and z you want in you got the job and you want it if not i'm gonna take it to somebody i'm gonna tell i'm going this is what I'm looking to do. X, Y, and Z. You want in? You got the job and you want it? If not, I'm going to take it to somebody. I'm going somewhere else, but I say I'm going to do this. Listen, here's one thing about it. I love everybody to death that you could work with.
Starting point is 01:33:18 But this dynamic here? Ain't nothing. Ain't nobody else pulling this off. When you look at the cast of Martin, right? When you look at the cast of Girlfriends. when you look at the cast of Martin right when you look at the cast of girlfriends when you look at the cast of family matters living single you can't put nobody else in them dynamics and get the same thing out of it you just can't man we got something special and I'm thankful I'm grateful I'm happy and I'm thankful. I'm grateful. I'm happy. And I'm treating myself Christmas. Cause I'm, I'm finna,
Starting point is 01:33:47 I'm finna put my smart car aside. And for now, I'm finna go get me something nice. Get you something nice. I'm gonna get me something nice. I don't know what I'm gonna get anything for Christmas. Cause I got my daughter's birthday coming up in October. I got a son birthday in November.
Starting point is 01:33:59 He's married now. Cause I said, bro, you got to think, I said, you got to think in terms of family. Now you just can't think of, I said, you got a wife and a, and a, and a grand, and a child. I said, you just you got to think. I said, you got to think in terms of family now. You just can't think of. I said, you got a wife and a child.
Starting point is 01:34:08 I said, you just can't think of daddy, you know, it's my birthday. So you got to think family now. So the gift that you go get, and I got a daughter in med school that she finishes med school in May of 24. So I don't know if I'm going to be able to get myself anything Christmas, but everybody else is going to be straight. Listen, you think you got it. You know my situation. Mind you, altogether, I got 11. Ooh, Lord.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Yeah. Yeah, I got 11. When I take care of everybody, I just got brother, sister, mom, and three kids. And my executive assistant, now I got a staff now. But I think they just want money. Yeah, you right. Especially my assistant, Ashley, over here shaking her head.
Starting point is 01:34:51 Right, shaking her head. Listen, my assistant is tied in with the missus. So that's two and one. Yeah. Then I got my kids. They not that bad. And then those I have kids from have also been a blessing along the way in this journey. Like, they have been huge.
Starting point is 01:35:10 Now, I don't think they understand. I haven't really been on a platform to be able to thank them in general. Like, they've made this possible more than anything. And they've done a wonderful job with the kids, man. And just, and really getting me to this point. And really, really helped me get to this point, man. I didn't do things the right way. I didn't do the traditional way, but the way I did do them.
Starting point is 01:35:35 Yeah, but the way I did do them, and those individuals don't understand how important they are to my growth and me getting to where I am today. So I'm thankful. Very thankful. Right. We should.
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