Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Best of NFL - Part 1: Flacco no mentor to Shedeur + Tyreek apology to Dolphins

Episode Date: June 2, 2025

Recap the best NFL topics of the week as Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Browns QB Joe Flacco commenting on his role, or lack there of, as a mentor to Shedeur Sanders, Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill walking back his trade request, and much more!01:41 - Joe Flacco on mentoring rookie QBs17:35 - Will Justin Fields have a breakout season?26:31 - Tyreek Hill on off-season feud with Dolphins33:30 - Playing football with off the field issues37:00 - Reminiscing on Randy Moss38:10 - Travis Kielce to retire after this year?42:20 - Julio Jones hasn’t rewatched his Super Bowl loss to Patriots(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an iHeart Podcast. Joe Flacco had a long answer when asked about mentoring Shadour and Dylan Gabriel. It's a good question to bait somebody into answering. And no matter how they answer it, it kind of looks like the guy's answer to look bad. If I say I don't want to be a mentor, I look bad. If I say I don't want to, if I don't, if I say I do want to mentor, then I look like an idiot that doesn't care about being good at playing football.

So one of those questions that no matter what I say, you guys can write what you want to write about it. And there's a lot of questions like that. That's why I end up having to try to avoid them. I tend to try to like be honest. And I've said, I'm not a mentor. I play football. I have a lot of experience that I can talk on things and hopefully they listen.

But it's not necessarily my job to make sure they listen to me. Hopefully you have a really good relationship with the guys that they're in the room and you naturally want to do that. Oh Joe, what do you make making what Joe Flacco is saying? And that man is not gonna be no goddamn mentor, man. These dudes behind me trying to take food off my plate.

They trying to take money out of my pocket. They here to take my goddamn job. What are we talking about? I don't know why we even asked that question. No, I'm not mentoring shit. I'm trying to keep my job as long as I can. What are we talking about? I hate, I mean, let's be real.

Let's be real. Selfish ass photo. Yeah, I ain't about being selfish. Better stay in that field, man. We here to make money. And you sitting behind me and me trying to mentor you, why the hell I'm gonna allow you to take food off my plate? That's what you here for. You here to take my job. That's what it is. This is the

business. I'm here to mentor you, you get your own shit together. We ain't in college no more. Ah, he talks about it. He's absolutely right. If you say I don't want to mentor, I mean, I mean, look, that's got to be natural. It's just like you going on a job, Ocho, and some guy takes you under their wing and says, hey, young fella, hey, let me help you to the game. Let me tell you how I was able to stay here 25 years. Let me tell you how I was able to stay here 30 years.

That's a choice that he or she makes. It says, you know what? I see something in this young man, this young woman, that I wanna partakeake in them and hopefully it's beneficial. But you're absolutely right. They're under no obligation. I was the opposite.

Young guys come in. I'm going to try to, hey, make sure you study. I will quiz them. Okay. This right here. What do you, you know, ask me a question. Why did I do, why did I run the route like this? Why did I do it like that?

X, Y, and Z. Okay, I'm asking you, okay. Did you not see that safety down? The safety down told you the guy was coming. So why else would he be down? If he's in coverage, why would he be down here like this unless somebody's covering and he got to cover you because he know you're gonna be the heart receiver.

So it's little things like that. But I agree with you 1000% on Joe. It's not, it's not, it's not someone's job to mentor you because you know, you get that on a lot of jobs, they bring, bring somebody else in, you know, teaching them the ropes and you know, teach them how to do this. Yeah. This is the NFL. The people sitting behind you that they're telling you to teach are there to take your

job. I mean, you, you come on, man. This is a business. Absolutely. Yeah. You make millions of dollars and you understand every time someone in draft and every time somebody in the board in that room is to take your damn job. Yep.

So Joe Flacco is what? How'd you hold Joe now? Joe got to be damn near 40. Cause he's 16 seasons in the league. He got to come in. I don't think he came out early. Okay. Well, he had put it like. I don't think he came out early. Okay. Well, he had, put it like this, he had at least 38, 39.

I don't know if he's 40, but he's 38, 39, at least. Yeah. How old he is. Joe's trying to keep in job as long as he can. Yeah. Cause he knows what it's like. Oh, Joe, remember they came and got him off his couch. Yeah.

He ain't trying to go back there anytime soon. What you have to understand is the faster he mentors, whoever he needs to be, whether it's Dylan Gabriel, whether it's Shador, it's one more. Who's the other? He turned 40, Ocho. He turned 40 in January. Hey, the faster he mentors them, the better they're prepared to go and play with Joe Flacco

going home. Joe's going home. He's going back to the couch. I'm sure that's not what he wants. He wants to be in there as long as he can. And for me, anything I think Joe Flackham needs to start the season regardless of if there's a quarterback competition or not. Joe needs to play as long as he can until the number two or number 12. I'm gonna say it like that until number 12 is ready to go. That's it.

I agree. It's hard for me to see a scenario in which Dylan Gabriel or Shador beats Flacco out. And I like, okay, yeah, this is the direction that we're going in to start the season. No. I'm not sure he has a very long leash. I'm not saying they're gonna let him go eight, nine games and they only won one.

Pickett might have something to say about that. Um, man, I, like I said, I don't, I don't look, they got a lot of. First of all, you got a lot of quarterbacks in that room. You bring flackle back. Yeah. Who's a 16, 17 year vet. You bring Kenny Pickett in from the Eagles, who's a four or five year vet. And you draft two quarterbacks. You're not keeping four quarterbacks on your roster. Unless somebody goes to the practice squad. Well hell, you might have two guys go to the practice squad.

Because most times teams don't have three quarterbacks dressed. Normally go into the game with two quarterbacks and you have an emergency quarterback that's normally a receiver. And when you get that situation, you just handing the damn ball off. So, I don't know, me personally, Ocho, I don't know what the, I don't know what the,

the Browns were thinking in that situation. You know what I'm saying? I know what they were thinking. Tell me what you think. We need a security blanket. Our security blanket, Joe Flacco. We see what Joe could do. When Deshawn went down and Joe had to step in, we saw him have a six, seven game stretch where he played phenomenal. Now, obviously, we're able to do it consistently because we saw what happened when he took a nose dive statistically and they started losing. But hey, let's bring Joe in because he knows the offense.

He knows the receivers. Bingo. We're going to see what we can do with Joe until we get these young bulls ready. That's as simple as it gets. Why bring Kenny Pickett back then? Well, I don't know. You know, Kenny Pickett, who's Kenny Pickett going to beat out? And I mean, no disrespect.

We've already, we've seen the small sample size of what Kenny Pickett is doing when he was with the Steelers. What are we talking about? It's, it's not, he's no threat. He's no threat to anybody over there. I mean, let's be realistic. Well, and I don't mean that in a different way. I disagree if he was we was he would still be restarted Excuse me, it's very very early in Kenny's career great, dude. I love him I love him to death, but if you are who you thought you were who we thought you were you would still be in Pittsburgh

True that's all and I mean no disrespect I'm saying in the best way I can still be in Pittsburgh. True. That's all. And I mean, no disrespect. I'm not saying in the, in the, in the best way I can. And that's my thing. Oh Joe, that's what I don't get. I don't know why you bring, you know, you bring two veterans in, you bring your draft two rookies. Obviously I don't believe LeJun, uh, the Sean is going to be able to play. I mean, he seems to think that he might be able. Obviously, I don't believe LeJun, Deshaun is gonna be able to play.

I mean, he seems to think that he might be able to play or, I don't know, I don't see that, but hey, maybe he went to a great orthopedic that would repair it. I don't know if he went to Eletroche. I don't know if he went to the guy out of New York, James Andrews, I don't know. I don't know. Wachems, I don't know, he went to the guy out of New York, James Andrews, I don't know. I don't know. Watkins, I don't know who he went to.

But it's just hard for me to see Deshaun playing this year when he tore that Achilles and he re-tored. That goes without saying. Now, Joe Flacco, we know what Joe Flacco is. It's been a long time since Joe has started the season. 14. It's been a backup.

Guys don't perform well. He comes in. The question is, with what they have offensively, do you believe Joe can take them to the playoffs? Cause right now they start the season, they're behind, they're behind me. I would have them behind Cincinnati. I would have them behind Baltimore.

Not sure I would have them in front of the, not sure I would have them in front of the Steeler. Now we don't know who the steel. Yeah, exactly. We don't know who the steel is. I mean, who the steel is quarterback is. That is why I put the Browns in front of them based on Flacco's resume in general. And then what we know we can do, he can, he can bypass and steal some games based on experience alone. I got you over there in Juke and Joke who's over there.

I'm not sure who's at the running back position. I'm not sure. I'm not sure who the other receiver on the other side may be. Um, but I think, I think Joe, I'm going to be fine. He's going to be fine until, until he's not until they feel they have to make a change and the fans will let you know what it's time to make a change. True. True. Man, that's a tough situation.

That's a very tough situation. And then every day they post in the quarterback stat. Wednesday, OTA the 28th, Joe Flacco had nine completions on 14 attempts, one touchdown, no interceptions, 64% completion. Dylan Gabriel, he was 11 of 16, two touchdowns, one interception, 69%. Shadour was seven of nine, three touchdowns, no interceptions, 78%. And Kenny Pickett was nine of 16, no touchdowns, no interceptions, 78%. And Kenny Pickett was nine out of 16,

no touchdowns, no picks, 56%. Yeah, I'll take all those stats in practice with a grain of salt. You ain't no T.A., you ain't got no shoulder pads, guys can't rush. No shoulder pads, you got shorts on, jersey on. Guys ain't trying to run through no D.E.s and break the pass up.

That don't mean nothing. Holla at me, holla holla, let me see how you look preseason. When we're playing against somebody that don't know what's coming. When the Bullets are flying, it's live action. You got pressure coming. You got eyes, you got hands in your face. You got three, you got two and a half, maybe three seconds.

You got people trying to make a team, trying to make a squad, trying to make sure they don't get cut. Make it off you. Come on now. Talk to me then. Let me know what the numbers look like then when it actually count. That's how far we come, Ocho. This is what they do now. They chart stuff like this. And me, absolutely nothing. And you know, I hate some of the pages on Twitter, and the routes on air.

Oh my goodness, look at that beautiful deep ball. What? Nigga. Oh, my bad. I'm sorry. Ain't no pressure. Of course it's beautiful. Of course it's a perfect pass. Yeah, but that's what we are, Ocho.

Everything, everything get charted, everything. I mean, they used to look, the teams always charted these stuff. They always kept with, you know, how many rounds you ran, how many times you won, blah, blah, blah, defense, did they win? How many, how many rounds you ran, how many times you won, blah, blah, blah, defense, did they win? How many rounds did he cover, how many passes did he break up, pick, blah, blah, blah.

The teams have always kept stuff like this. That's how they evaluate it. Yeah, yeah. But we don't normally have publications, Twitter, whoever, you know, whether it's a YouTube or whomever that charts stuff like this and keep a tally of it. Means nothing. I mean, you're supposed to get open on air.

You're supposed to catch it on air. You're supposed to complete it on air. It's supposed to look perfect. Yeah. It's not supposed to look chaotic. So look, Shador knows what he's up against. He knows he's not a first three round pick. So there is no assurances that he's going to be on the team.

He understands that. I'm sure his dad has told him that. I'm sure his agent has told him. I don't know if it's his dad I don't know his agent who his agent is But I'm saying I'm sure they Told him Made him aware

There are no guarantees the Browns probably make well the mere fact where he was drafted lets you know there are no guarantees Come on now But if your door is what he believes he is, I don't see the problem. So Joe Flacco, Dylan Gaber, Shador Sanders, Kenny Pickett, all fighting for, I believe, two spots. I believe two spots. Two spots and the other guys gonna probably be.

Practice squad. Practice squad. I mean, you guys, I mean, like you said, OTA is gonna tell me ish. I'm gonna need to see some preseason. Now, I don't think that probably Joe Flacco's probably gonna play in the preseason. So that means Dylan Gabor, Shador, and Kenny Pickett's gonna get all the snaps in preseason. All of it.

I mean, listen, Flacco might get a series, if that. Yeah. If that. I get, I agree, I agree, I agree. But these other guys owe y, y'all play it. And play it lots. A lot. A lot.

["Dreams of a New World"] Despite an uneven start to his career, Jeff's quarterback Justin Fields believed he's on the cusp of a breakout season. He thinks it's the right team, the right time, and the right scheme. I think I can be great. That's been the goal of my whole life, my whole career. I think the sky's the limit for this team, for this offense,

but we have a long way to go. Our offense and defense are new, so guys are really tuned in, locked in, trying to get everything down. But I think once we do, I think the sky's the limit. I mean, we have all the guys we need, we have all the talent. So it's really just going to come down to discipline and execution. And listen, everybody has all the talent. It always comes down to discipline and execution, but also come down to the coaches. You know, it's nothing but a chess match. I always say this all the time when it comes to playing the game of football Understanding your strengths and understanding your players weaknesses putting your players in the right places to make the plays

Understanding who they're playing against understanding what their weaknesses are and putting them in the best position to make plays Against said individual players that also get paid millions of dollars that's what it all comes down to having an officer officer coordinator or a defensive coordinator that doesn't have an ego. An ego. Well this is my system and I want you to run my system my way despite whether you can do what I like called well or not. That's what it all is. There's so many different variables that come into it. Justin Fields is supposed to feel that way. He's supposed to feel like this is the great system, great scheme, great whatever it is, but everybody looks good in shorts and shirts. We all do.

And that's a different game. We talk, we talk about the Jets. We know what happened when the goddamn lights come on Sunday at one o'clock. There's always been a different story. Now for, for Justin, for his sake, this is the make or break year for him. You have a stellar, you have a phenomenal season this year. You get you a nice big payday, boy. Which you are deserving of.

You know, now you're getting a fair shot. You're getting another fair shot, you know. Obviously, Chicago didn't go so well. Now you have a first star. Most of the time, sometimes, quarterbacks aren't given a second chance. Like you've been in the four. Now you got to make the most of it.

Get that ball to number five. I'll tell you that you definitely, you know, you're going to be all right. He definitely, uh, I agree with you, Ocho. I think this is a year that he's going to have to, you know, Chicago, we like, look, man, what he had offensive coordinator didn't do much. They didn't put him in the right situation. They didn't protect him well enough. XYZ goes to Pittsburgh.

I thought he played well. I was surprised with Mike Tomlin made the move and inserted Russ after Russ had missed the games with a calf injury, but hey, it is what he built. Thought he had some nice talent around him. Pickings, he had some guys that can make plays around him, Frye Muth, they ran the ball okay with Nigel Harrison, Jalen Warren.

But now, new coach, what seems to be a competent offensive coordinator, decent offensive line and weapons around him. They tried to remove the hedge, which is the excuse that you would have if things don't go well. Yeah. So I'm room for the young man. Um, third team Ocho in three years.

Situation matters. Now you can't go to 510 situation and say well that situation wasn't right for me. That situation wasn't right for me. That situation wasn't right for me Ocho. At some point in time you got to accept a responsibility. You got to look at that mirror. Huh? Yeah. Michael Jackson said you got to start with the man in the mirror

Yeah But I do believe AG had a great group of guys office coordinator quarterback coach Surrounded him with the talent now. It's just time for him to let his God-given ability go out there and take over Don't overthink it prepare be prep be ready to go know what you're supposed to go Know where you're supposed to go with the ball go with it. Yeah Don't be afraid to use your leg, you know, sometimes people like well, I'm gonna show I can throw the ball. Okay What makes what makes these guys dangerous is their legs nobody's not fearing their arm No, I don't want you to run. I don't I don't want you to escape cuz I know I know what type of speed you got

I know you can hit your head on the goalpost So Cause I know, I know what type of speed you got. I know you can hit your head on the goalpost. So he's played well. Uh, last, last 12 stars, he has an eight and 40 record, Ocho 17 passing and rushing touchdowns, only seven interceptions. Like I said, we talked about it last year. I was surprised that they made the change. Cause I thought he played well, could have won the game and, uh, uh, in Indy. They lost that game.

Fields will make his debut with the Jets September 7th against the Steelers. Team that traded for him last year then benched him in favor of Russell Wilson at the four and two start. Fields offered no insight into the matchup. Oh, that's what we played week one. Really? Hmm. It really wasn't a thought.

Any extra motivation? No. Nah, just play ball. Just play ball. No motivation needed. It's already been there regardless. I don't care what happened in the past. I don't care what happened in the past. Well, they wanted him back but he, nah, after the way y'all did me, had I been playing back, had I been 0-6, had I been 2-4, I can understand you going in a different direction. But I was two games over 500, and I don't think maybe, I'm trying to think what was that game that Russ and them came back and they won? I would have to look back, I can't remember off the top of my head, but I don't think the Steelers won any games that they probably wouldn't have won if Russ wasn't in there. Yeah, but you also have to understand, Mike Tomlin gave his word to Russ.

Mike Tomlin gave his word to Russ, so he had to stick by his word because I think everyone, including Russ Wilson, would have been looking at Tomlin funny after already voicing who was going to be the starter Publicly to everybody so whenever russ was held things change situations change. Oh, Joe You can't go back on that Can't go back on that and that's your oh, Joe. Hopefully everybody's gonna be looking at him funny That's how you look at me funny. I mean look I like look at oh Joe I like sweets, but as the doctor told me I got diabetes, I can't be eating those sweets, right?

He said, Shannon, you got high blood pressure. I can't be eating no pork, I gotta change things. You go six and O, you five and one, you four and two, Ocho's like, hey Russ, I know what I said. But, so if that's the case, when they lost four games in the end of the season, why didn't they go back to Justin Fields then?

Because you did him like that. All the man had is his word, Don. Man, that's not working in coaching. You know you go with the hot man. Whoa, whoa. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Because this is what I look at. Oh, wait a minute, wait, wait, wait a minute. The hand stayed hot now for what? Three, four games in a row now. The hand, the hand, the hand stayed hot.

Justin Fields was four and two, weren't you? You didn't hear what I just said. Yeah. You made the change, the hand still stayed hot. Yes. Three or four games in a row. Right. And then, you know, towards the end.

But you shouldn't have changed, because my hand was hot. You tried to pour water on me to cool my hand off. Yeah. I got cool my hand off. Yeah. I got cool standing on the sideline. Hey, listen. All I know is Mike Tomlin had a state and kept promise to his word that he said,

before the season started, Russ was our starter. So whenever he was healthy, he would get back in the lineup as said, started, like I said, before the season started. That's all I That's one thing I can honestly say I loved about Mike but Mike Shanahan Mike Shanahan said look here you might be the starter, right? But if that guy comes in and he's playing better than you then when you were starting he's starter Hey, hey who's a who's a who's a quarterback that was in Denver, right? Had the big old beard.

Don't tell me about it. The beard was huge sticking up out the helmet, like Fitzpatrick. It wasn't Fitzpatrick. But he could sling. It was Kyle Lorton. It was Kyle Lorton? He could sling that ball.

Man, had the big old lumberjack beard. I think he was throwing the... Brandon Lloyd. Brandon Lloyd. That's who had some hands. People talk about everybody else, they be mentioning they got hands. People don't realize how good a hands that Joker had. Man, V Lloyd was catching all the acrobatic catches, boy. Go back, I mean, before the technology

and the tactified gloves, he was doing that with, there was no tact. Yeah, there was, sure was. It sure was. Go back and look at Brandon Lloyd when he was with the Broncos and with the 49ers 49ers Yeah, he was uh Be Lord was nice with it Tyree Hill spoke with local media for the first time since suggesting a trade request after Miami's season ending loss to the Jets in January making himself unavailable in the second half.

He walked his comments back this week and publicly apologized for them. It was tough, man. Obviously, emotions were high then, but at the end of the day, I'm just looking to move forward from that, hoping that I can prove myself and prove to my teammates that I'm still one of them ones,

man who's chasing 2K receiving yards. Still, one of those ones chasing a, who's chasing 2K receiving yards. Still, one of those ones chasing a playoff dreams and all that great stuff. I've got to prove to myself, I got to show up different. The mindset's got to be different. He said he attended church and therapy over the past month, and he says it's helped him reflect on his decision making,

namely why it's been so difficult for him to stay out of the headlines that aren't football related is tough One thing I'm gonna say man is money is crazy thing for a lot of people I agree I Love what he said and I said this old Joe you you can't take yourself out of that game You got that captaincy on his shirt. That's that outro that carry a little that carry a lot of weight Yeah, that carries a lot of weight. Yeah. That carries a lot of weight. Yeah. And for him and they're asking me are you hurt? If he was hurt, I ain't got no problem with it. I don't. I don't. Me, I'm

gonna try to cut gut it up as long as I possibly can and when I can't go, I can't go. But to just take yourself out of the game because you're not catching any passes or the ball's not being thrown to you. And some of the stuff that he said, look, and when the motion are high, I get it. When a motion is high, logic is low. And sometimes we let our emotions get the best of us and we say things and we do things that we wish we can take back. But I love a man that's reflective. I love a man that's reflective. I love a man that can stand there and say, you know, I was wrong. And I'm going to try to be, I'm not only going to try to be a better football player, but I'm going to try to be a better man. And he's right. Money, money. Boy, look here. Money changes.

Not only can money change you, it can change the way people see you. The way they view you. How they treat you. How they behave around you. Yeah. So... I'll be picking that up. I've always liked Tyree. Here's a guy, Ocho, that had immense speed and we know...

The man's name's Cheetahetah so we know he can run But Ocho he taught himself to run routes. He wasn't just a gadget guy They run into him some jet sweeps, you know the punt kickoff return Ocho. They just did But he all of a sudden he start running the smoke. He can run the speed I can run the comeback He can run the dig. He can run the over he can run the slant the speed I can run the comeback he can run the dig he can run the over he can run the slant now I got with that kind of speed that can close that cushion he turned himself into a Hall of Famer yeah yeah he gonna be all right yes he has to be. He has to be. He needs to be in the...

He understands, Ocho. He... You want a new... You want a contract extension. Well, I got to pay you on what I believe you can be moving forward, not on what you've done. I know about that 1800, 1900-yard season that you had. Unbelievable. You were sensational. I what you've done. I know about that 1800, 1900 yard season that you had. Unbelievable.

You were sensational. I paid you for that. Made you one of the highest paid receivers in football. You were the highest paid until all these other guys started getting their contract. Now, if I were to extend you or give you a new contract, Ocho, I gotta base it on what do I think Tyreek Hill? Am I gonna be able to count on Tyreek Hill

next two, three years? Cause that's what I gotta pay. That's what I'm paying him for. And you see where the, the, the wire receiver money is going, Ocho. Hey, that thing is north of 35, uh, Chase is in the forties. Yeah. Listen, but I love a man that can look and say, you know, hey, it's me. Yeah. You, you could be right, it's me. Yeah.

We all get wake up calls. We all get wake calls in different forms. Sometimes some of them, sometime God, they got to shake you real hard. Yeah. You get your attention. He's not to see it, but no, when you shake your real hard, he wants your undivided attention. Sometimes you'll do something. You just, you just pause like, Oh, okay.

I heard you. Yeah. Hey, he right. He right. Cause it's something that some things that can happen. They can sit you down real quick. Yes. And it hit home.

And hit home. He's focused on going to therapy. And the fact that he has to prove himself, the fact that he even feels he has to prove himself is to me, man, boy, you know who you are. We know what you can do. We know why your numbers weren't what they were last year. But anyway, but having to prove yourself again, if your quarterback can stay upright and healthy. But you know what, if you think about it-

... 1800, 1900 yard season. But think about it. 1900 yard season. But think about it, how did the season start? Controversy and it ended the same way. You see, remember how we say, Ocho? You limp until the season, you limp out of it. Yeah, you right. You come in, you come in, little bull dive, bull dive, follow you out of it.

Yeah. ["Dreams of a New World"] of it. Yeah. So like I said he learned he going through a lot he got a lot of stuff going off going on off the field that's not football related maybe maybe that was weighing on his mind. Oh chill people don't understand man. Sometimes boy you have stuff going on and you have to be able to compartmentalize and some people compartmentalize better than others. Some people can stay tunnel focused. When I'm on this football field,

the most important thing is this football. Me catching it, me intercepting it, me sacking the quarterback, or whatever, running the football, whatever the case may be. And then once I'm off this football field, I gotta deal with day-to-day of life. Yeah. Family, friends, loved ones, kids.

And you know what, that's why I like, that's why I love when I was playing. Obviously I didn't have many issues off the field until obviously on the back end, but I'm saying during that early time, that first decade, you know, I ain't had no issues. You did not. What I was able to do, if I did have anything lingering,

which was very, very, very small, I knew once I walked in that locker room, oh man, that's my safe space. That's my heaven. Going to practice, going to meetings, I ain't had to worry about nothing. So life, everything was at ease once I entered that stadium. Once I touched that grass, once I could smell that grass, I was at ease once I entered that stadium. Once I touched that grass, once I could smell that grass.

I was at peace, now understood. Once we got out of meetings and we watched film after practice, okay, now back to reality. Now back to kids. Ocho. They like, I'm glad it's him, not me.

I don't care he got them. Right. So at the end of the day, a lot of the problems, if they're not family oriented, I mean your family, they're really the only ones that care. Bro, you playing football, you making $30 million a year, you making X amount of money. I wish I made that kind of money because people think money solves everything. It don't. It don't.

It don't. It don't. It don't. Because I promise you, there is disappointment, there is heartbreak that even no amount of money can absolve you from, that can shield you from. And so, you know, look, Tyreek is human. And all humans have emotions. Now it takes different stimuli to trigger emotions, but the right stimulus or tremor that will elicit sadness, disappointment, joy, heartbreak, just

the way that we are, we are who we are, even the toughest. So I hope, I really do. Cause I thought, I mean, look, he was, he, I still believe he's a hall of famer, but I want to see him bounce back because I think he's one of the most talented receivers that ever played a game. He's special.

I'm glad he's not six foot tall. Can you imagine him six foot tall with that speed? With his mindset, Ocho? Well, if he was six feet tall, he wouldn't be able to do the things he's doing now at the height he is. Well, hell look at Randy Moss. God made Randy Moss six foot four and gave him that speed. Randy Moss couldn't run routes.

He ran, he got 153 touchdowns. He did something. I don't know what he did. A lot, yeah, he caught a lot of jump balls and he caught a lot of goal balls. But no, I mean, Randy wasn't trying to run those speed outs. He wasn't trying to, I mean, he run the hook, he run the smoke route, catch him.

With a guy like Randy, put the ball in his hands. All that other stuff, look. Put the ball in his hands. I'm gonna make to do. Look. Put the ball in his hands. I'm gonna make you make a decision. How you gonna get him on the ground? Cause I got him the ball. Hey. That man, every time I think about seeing Randy off,

the DB off, normally, you know, the DB, seven yards, three step, read the quarterback. After three step, get your ass back on the receiver. Man, Randy, the dude is seven yards off. Randy take three steps, he done closed the cushion and then threw his hand up. He threw his hand up, yeah. Hey, the DB still in his damn back pedal.

Man, what the fuck are you doing? Hey, and then you know the fave was coming on the goal line inside the five, you know, the family coming Yeah, and it would know you could do. Yeah, then you could do But uh But Tariq you get it figured out. Yeah, he get it figured out Patrick Mahone said Travis Kelsey doesn't seem like the player, seem like a player on his last ride.

If it's his last ride, you would never know. The way he's talking about football, the way he's talking about working, trying to be even better than he was last year, it doesn't seem like a guy that's on his last ride or he's tired of the job. He's in here, he's working. I know his body feels good.

I think he feels better than even last year before going into last season, just because he's motivated to have an even better year. Yeah. I think, look, new relationship, Ocho, new relationship. You know, he's out, you know, I'm gonna support my lady. And I think the thing, I, he's out, you know, she, I'm support my lady. Um, and I think the thing I think he deep down and so he knows he didn't put it. He didn't put the time in that he needed to, he didn't put that work in,

putting that work in now. Looked like he, I guess he looked like his body's changed. He's lost some weight. Uh, I mean, you have to realize they're comparing Trav to a younger Trav. They're not comparing him to Laporta and all these other guys. They're comparing to his younger self and what they saw him do. We used to him being the premier tight end in all football. There's no question.

Who best at Travis Kelsey? Yeah. Now you got other guys. Now you got Laporta said, Hey, what about me? You got McBride in Arizona saying, what about me? You got Bowers in Oakland, what about me? I mean, excuse me, Las Vegas, what about me? Yeah.

Kittle. So you got other guys that are like, hold on, it's not a foregone conclusion anymore. Now Travis is like, hey, I wanna stay attached to that best tight end conversation. And it'll humble you, man. Yeah. Yeah.

You got to put that work in. But also put is one thing putting into work, but also he ain't going to need help as well. You don't. Well, I think Rashid Rice being back, you saw, uh, uh, uh, uh, McKee, uh, worthy, you, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh That's nice offense offensive the offensive line. What do you look like? Which office like a little like mm-hmm You know that they drafted offensive tackle out of Ohio State the first round to be a left tackle

You got Trey Smith you got create a Humphrey You got one of the best centers in football, one of the best right guards in football, but they were lacking at the other position and they should, it rare, it's, it rare to say it in the Superbowl. I did. But, uh, I'm glad Travis is putting that time in, you know, but at this point in time, Ocho, you know, you don't, you don't re I mean, sometimes you know, but at the end of the day, you take it one year at a time now. He done got past 10, it's one at a time. It ain't no more, man, that got me five more.

I'm taking one at a time. If I get five, woo, thank you Jesus. If I get one, if I get two, hell, I got two more than the original number that I set for myself. At that point, you just pray for, you pray you get in the extra years. Yeah, because I mean, I'm going to five, I was like, man, if I can just get,

if I can get me one, once I got the one, I was like, man, if I can get the five, oh, whoa, five years. Once I got the five, I was like, hey, 10 is the goal. I gotta get 10, let me get the 10. Once I got the 10, okay, let me try to get 11. Let me try to get 12. I'm trying to steal. Let me get the tea. Yeah, once I got a tear. Okay, let me try to get lever Let me try to get 12 I'm trying to steal the year after year

Yeah, I show one to steal me one. I don't think I was able to steal one but I was gonna steal me one I don't know if it will be 15 or 16, but I was gonna steal one year like damn sharp show don't look the same I'm not but I'm just the same Show don't look the same, I'm not. But them checks the same. I'm not, I'm not, nope, nope. Sharp can still run, but Sharp just can't get over like he would. Sharp ain't got the wiggle like he was had.

Julio Jones says he's not rewatched his Super Bowl 51 loss to the Patriots. I had four opportunities the whole game. That's insane, that's ridiculous. Four targets in the Super Bowl? Also Julio got to understand what you're playing. What does Bill Belichick do best? Take away a team's best offensive weapon. That's what he's known for. That's what he always, he's always done. Regardless of where you line up. Regardless of where you line up, the defensive play call

is made based on who you line up. So he's going to, boom, number one, he taking that out. Yep. Taking it out. So I mean, Julio, I mean, sure Julio understands that now and anybody that's going to play against a Bill Belichick defense understands that as well. Hell, when I knew I was playing against the Patriots, I didn't get my hopes up. Because I already knew what time it was.

I already knew who's just gonna eat. Whoever the third receiver was, they gonna eat. You just understand that going to those games. I just didn't get when they got that lead why they wouldn't run the football. But people say, well, you do what you did when you got there, what got you there. But you gotta be smart.

You gotta be smart, Ocho. Yeah. And to be smart. You got to be smart. Oh Joe. Yeah. And, and, and, and, and, and Kyle was smart and it falls on DQ too, because he's the head coach. All right. Run it. Hey, don't be afraid to run it here. Just to keep, to keep throwing the ball, stopping the clock. Why?

That. Yeah. They're not getting over that. And plus, rewatching it does not change the outcome. You probably don't wanna, you probably don't wanna relive that. Hell nah. Wanna relive that, don't wanna rehash it.

Then you're watching it, you only have four targets. I mean, there's really nothing to see. You had a great, that's the guidelines I'm sure you've seen that replay over and over and over but losing a game like that being up 23 and still losing I mean nobody wants to rehash or read it. Because Ocho but at that point when Julio made that spectacular catch there in field goal range. Yeah. Run the ball. Why would you throw it? Why? Run the ball, kick the field goal, walk it off. Yeah. Hey, why did Russell Wilson not change the play call to goddamn run play and run?

I'm betting on Marshawn Linton. Okay, they stopped him the first run. I'm betting on Marshall and Linson. Okay, they stopped him the first time. I'm betting. Make them stop him again. Make them stop him again. I'm betting. You're gonna have to show me. For sure.

I ain't putting the ball in. And if I didn't get him in, I don't deserve to win the ball game. I ain't putting the ball in the... And if I didn't get it in, I don't deserve to win the ball game. But if you go back and think about it, Ocho, they emptied the backfield. So, Mouser is not even a threat to run the football.

Yeah. At least you gotta have him back there so he's a threat. And give them something to think about. Yes, yes. Coach Brian Schottenheimer said they are making changes to the cadence. Sounds like there'll be no more. Here we go.

There it went. They changed it? Hey, that was dope, man. But outside of the defense being able to time it, I mean, that would be the only... Aw, man. Uh, no. Here we go.

I mean, I think that would be the only issue. No, just say, said hut. Everybody's trying to, some things you just can't, it's like, you know what, Ocho, everybody's trying to get, everybody's trying to try to do some things you just can't it's like you know What oh Joe everybody's trying to get everybody's trying to get like a recording contract or a new recording contract singing the national anthem It's the national anthem sing it and sit your bass sit your ass down Everybody want to go up there and try to sing but like it draw it out two or three two minutes three minutes come on If you sing on that for the most part if you say a national anthem you probably already got a contract but let you draw it out two or three, two minutes, three minutes. Come on. If you say that for the most part, if you say a national answer, you probably already got a contract.

Especially if it's a big, a big, you know, big event, you know, Superbowl, uh, all star game, world series and playoffs, yada, yada, yada. Come on now. Everybody tried to dress it up. Uh, uh, up, the cadence. Yeah. Blue 19, blue 19 said, hut! Or you were audible, we had a blue 59 Razor,

blue 59 Razor. But they didn't do it too much. Yeah, I couldn't even hit it. Yeah, I couldn't even hit it. I couldn't even hit it damn kidding. I just watched the ball. I had to hear the game come to a film time. I would be a guy and I had to run. I had to run the adjust route.

I had to run the seven route. Right. So I needed to, I needed to hear. But for the most part, like when I'm in expect without the tight end. Now obviously, you know, they changed the player I already knew I was hot. So I'm just I'm seeing what they got Josh it around. Okay They brought two to my side they brought one to my side TD's in TD's figured them up They got to bring two to make me hot. Hey, they bring something backside that doesn't that doesn't impact me, right?

But there are some times we go into a game that's like, hey, if you get, hey Pete, they bring, they might bring, they might only bring one side, but if they bring the guy backside, just, if you see him coming, just turn around, or something, you give him a look.