Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Best of NFL - Part 1: Steelers clock on Rodgers + Nick Chubb to Cowboys?

Episode Date: May 25, 2025

Recap the best NFL topics of the week as Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Pittsburgh Steelers waiting on Aaron Rodgers decision to sign a contract, the NFL allowing players to compete in flag football at the Olympics, reports that the Dallas Cowboys are interested in Nick Chubb, and much more!01:41 - 2024 Eagles Top 5 team all time?05:00 - Steelers owner on waiting for Aaron Rodgers08:13 - Brock Purdy a Top 10 QB?23:00 - Ashton Jeanty on purchasing Jersey No. 227:45 - Mikey Sainristil pranks teammates30:10 - NFL Players in 2026 Olympics?37:10 - Ashton Jeanty changing stance45:15 - Should Cowboys sign Nick Chubb?47:13 - 49ers extend Fred Warner48:30 - Joe Burrow defends Trey Hendrickson51:50 - Burrow not happy with Bengals schedule55:11 - Colts owner Jim Irsay passes away(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Ocho, let me know what you think about this. Saquon Barkley believes the 2024 Eagles are and should be remembered as a top 5 team of all time. I firmly believe when you look at our team and what we had last year, I think we're a top 5 team of all time. If you really look at the season outside of our first four games, it was built to ask, but you can look out outside the first four games. That's the whole point. We got to take it in its totality. Collectively. Yeah. Every single game. Listen, they were good. Maybe the back half of a top 10 team, huh? Yeah. Back half of a top ten team. If I take out that

Super Bowl game, the Patriots are the greatest team all time. If I just take out that Super Bowl, but I can't, Ocho. You can't at all. But listen, Saquon is right in a sense, not top five, but that damn team was really good, especially on both sides. They're really good, yes. Hey, on both sides of the ball at that. Yes. On both sides of the ball, that goddamn, the ball. Yes. Hey, on both sides of the ball at that. Yes. Both sides of the ball. That god damn uh Jean, please hear what I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? And that's to have the rookies. Braun who came in from New Orleans Saints to have the rookies step up the way they did and have um those that came from other teams. Braun played phenomenal. That got them at that front four and then I'm not gonna Jalen Carter

This is the cherry the cherry on top of the ice cream was him getting Saquon Barkley from the New York Giants They put him over the top Yes, put him over the top and I really honestly think huh? I don't want to scream dynasty too soon, but what they have, there's a chance they can be back again. Oh yeah, for sure. There's a chance they can stay. Injuries is a big key. And the thing is, it's hard to,

the reason why it's so hard in football, Lucho, because it's one game. Yeah. All it takes is you have one bad game and you going home. Yeah, yeah. You going home. So, and when you don't play a series sports, which football isn't a series

sport, it's a game seven. Every game, the wild card game is a game seven. The divisional round is a game seven. Obviously, the championship game is a game seven. The Super Bowl is a game seven. So you're playing potentially two, three, four game sevens. Yeah, man. And there's really no margin for error because it's not necessarily the best team, it's the team that plays the best that given day. That day, yeah. That Sunday, that Saturday, or whatever the case it may be, Ocho,

who plays the best that day? But I do think they're good to look. I mean, we go back and we look at some of those 49ers teams of the 80s, we look at the Cowboys of the 90s, our team, the Broncos in 2000, excuseers teams of the 80s. We look at the Cowboys of the 90s. Uh our team, the Broncos in 2000 uh excuse me in the 90s uh the

Patriots teams. Bro, the Steelers of the 70s. Yeah. Yeah. The Packers of the 60s. That mean they're they're like hey the two the 2000 Ravens. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's so it's Big Wild, you had an unbelievable season, the team had an unbelievable season, congratulations. But I don't know about that top five.

Steelers on the Art Rooney previously said at the start of April that the team would not wait forever on Aaron Rodgers to sign. Rooney said last month, Rodgers wants to come to Pittsburgh, but Rodgers has not made any public pronouncement about his intentions. And then today Rooney was asked again about how long the team is willing to wait

for him to make a commitment. A little while longer, I'll say the same thing. And the Steelers start OTAs next week, and they run through June 5th. Three-day mandatory mini-cap that ends off-season program wraps up June 10th. So to make a long story short, Art Rooney II is willing to wait, however

long it take, to get Aaron Rodgers. I mean, it's Aaron Rodgers. Obviously, I told you, I told you what the leverage is. The leverage is what you did in the past. What he was able to do in the past is why he can have a team, a team organization like the winning Steelers who had what? Five, six Super Bowl trophies of amount six. Yeah, six. He has a leverage right now because of what he's accomplished in the past. Not what he did with the Jets. They're not looking at that. They're looking hoping that we can get somewhat just a splash of the Aaron Rodgers of old because what we have right now is not gonna cut it. It's

definitely not gonna cut it. So we're willing to wait. And that's the leverage that quarterbacks have when they are great in the NFL, especially on the back end of their career. The Aaron Rodgers are old but the Jets got an old Aaron Rodgers. Still Aaron Rodgers but they're two different players. Yeah. Um but like you said, I mean, you're in that division. You got Burrow and you got Lamar to deal with. Hey. And so, in order for you're in that division. You got Burrow, and you got Lamar to deal with.

And so in order for you to have a chance to win, you're gonna have to have exemplary quarterback play. Got to. And they feel that he gives them the best opportunity. I heard what they said about Mason Rudolph and anybody else. No disrespect to them, Ma. No disrespect to Mason Rudolph.

He's had his time. He's had his running in Pittsburgh. We know what that looks like. He's a quarterback. Adjournment. He's not Aaron Rodgers. If Mason Rudolph was what the Steelers and Mike Tomlin want us to believe,

he would have never been to Tennessee. Thank you, thank Tennessee. He'd have still been their quarterback and they would not have been waiting for an Aaron Rodgers. They would have not, they would have not went and got Justin Fields and Russell Wilson last year. If Mason Rudolph was what they telling, what they try to believe, oh, we have confidence. Y'all had so much confidence in them, y'all let him go to Tennessee. That's all words. That's all hot air. They have to say those things.

They got to say the right thing, especially when the individual is back in the building. You know you don't believe in him. You know you don't. You know he's not gonna get the job done. Second string quarterback, third string quarterback, if that, you need Aaron Rodgers, which is why you waiting. But there's only so many quarterbacks out there

you can go get. Yeah, you not gonna get none of them now. No, it's always a wrap. Yes. What you ain't have, you won't be getting. So you only got one choice. That's Aaron Rodgers. Ocho, Brock Purdy says he's a hundred percent

a top 10 quarterback in the NFL. I'm a top 10 quarterback, I'll leave it at that. Purdy is now the 7th highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Purdy says he took less money because he doesn't need every penny for himself and wants the team to win. Obviously, I want to get a deal what I deserve, also surround myself with guys around me, not just try to take every penny for myself he signed a five-year 265 million with a hundred and eighty one million guaranteed if you look at your screen

you'll see what he's gonna make after taxes 53 million federal income tax is gonna take 19 million five hundred sixty seven thousand eight hundred and ninety two California is gonna take seven million five hundred sixty seven thousand eight hundred and ninety-two California is going to take seven million five hundred and twenty-nine thousand federal payroll tax one thousand no one million two hundred fifty-four thousand one fifty-three California said tax sixteen hundred eighty-six dollars total in taxes Ocho twenty-eight million three fifty-two seven thirty-one he gets to bring home a little less than 25 million.

Uh, I'm going to address this top 10, this top 10, uh, top 10 quarterbacks. You want to address the top 10? Yeah. Okay. It's Brock Purdy. A top 10 quarterback. Is he? Yeah, I mean, I'm you. You got me shit. He's he said it. Not me. I want to run through the top quarterbacks before I even answer that question.

Who we got? Let's go through our top five, right? Well, go ahead. I'm gonna let you go ahead and name a five. Okay, let's let's let's go. Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts. I'm going to go with Patrick Mahomes, Jerry Garth, Patrick

Mahomes. Where I'm at at seven seven. You want CJ Stroud, CJ Stroud, Jayden Daniels, Jayden Daniels. That's ten Jordan Love. Oh my goodness. Jordan Love. That's eleven. Okay. Matthew Stafford. Hell yeah. I forgot about a guns I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody.

I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing

somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing somebody. I'm missing And you didn't mention, you didn't mention Dak. Okay. You didn't mention, who else? Yeah, you said Jake, yeah. So that's 12 right there. So you got Perdy, huh? I know, I'm here to tell you, I love Brock Perdy and Shanahan System. I love Brock Perdy. I love the way he looks when all the pieces are in place.

Deebo, Ayuk, Troom Williams, Officer Lyons is in attack, Christian McCaffrey. And I have a question. There's no disrespect to Brock Purdy because he plays extremely well and does what's asked of him in that specific system. Can you take a Brock Purdy and take away all the talent that's around him? Will he still look the same as a Brock Purdy you saw with all the elite talent around him? I think the type of quarterback they get elevated team. That's the thing. That's the word I want to elevate a team without adequate talent around. Is he that type of quarterback? I'm asking you. Yeah, that's the word I wanted you to use. I didn't want you to strip out a talent because every

quarterback has talent, but I believe there are certain quarterbacks that elevate the talent that they have. That's what made Brady special. Brady could elevate the talent. Now as he got older, he needed people to help elevate him. That's okay. But he had 18, 19, 20 years of elevating others. So if he wanted to get a little help the last couple years, by all means, I welcome that.

Yes, I don't look at Brock Purdy as a multiplier. What I mean by that, I don't believe he can just take ordinary people and make them really good. Great. I think, you know, he takes, I mean he can't he get the ball there but Kristi McCaffrey is pretty good without him. Kittle was Kittle without him. Yeah, pretty good. I think Deebo had that all pro year without him. So he's a really good he understands the offense, he gets the ball out of his hands. He doesn't have the he he throws with great anticipation, because he doesn't have the strongest arm. So he has to let the ball go a lot

sooner than a lot of these quarterbacks do. And in Kyle system, it's it requires you to have a great understanding of that offense. It has you it you you to have a great understanding of that offense. It has you. You have to have a great recall process information like this. Yeah. Yeah. He's he's that's why I said he's I want to talk about these. I want to talk about how this man make 53 million and he gonna come home with 24 million. How Uncle Sam get to take how Uncle Sam get to take 28 and give you 24? But that's the way it works. No, Uncle Sam.

No, I want to give you 24 and I'll take 28. Boy, Uncle Sam, that's why Uncle Sam, you always see, notice he always point at you. And that finger mean. When you talk about he want you, I want my money back. That's what I want. Ain't talkin' about he want you, I want my money back. That's what I want. Federal, man, 19 mil. Well, since they slash Medicaid, I ain't payin' no Medicaid tax no more.

I ain't payin' that. So stop takin' it out by check. Nah, hey, I don't fool with Uncle Sam about you. Yeah, man. I'm gonna say I'm done played by. Yeah. I'd rather pay him more than I owe. Then not pay him enough. Cause honest mistake is still gonna cost you interest. Yeah. Yeah. They interest. They interest hit different. Now they don't give you to say the interest that they charge you

Versus the interest that they give you on your money, right? It's two different things. Yes, sir to But look I do think he's earned his contract Ocho, mr. Relevant. He's gone to two NFC championship game He's taking a tune to the Super Bowl. He's gone to a Pro Bowl. And this is the going rate for a quarterback. A good one. Look, everybody can't listen. Everybody can't be top five. Even when I was in the league, Ocho,

there weren't a whole lot of top five quarterbacks. There's your core, there's your elite guys. Then you got guys underneath, but guys gonna, you know, a quarterback is going to command the premium. That's just the way it is. He plays a premium position. It's just like, oh Joe, you want to go live in San Diego, you're gonna play premium. You want to go live in the Bay, you're gonna play premium. You live in Bel Air, you live in Beverly Hills, you live in Brentwood, you live in Harmby Hills, you live in Malillere, you live in Barillere Hills, you live in Brentwood, you live in Harmbere Hills, you live in Malibu, you are going to play a premium

for those locations. Well, he plays quarterback. He doesn't have to be Mahomes in order to get Mahomes-esque money. No, he's a very, very good quarterback. He's a tier two quarterback. He's a player that plays extremely well and does what he's asked of in that Pacific system. Yes. Very, very efficient level. Week in and week out.

I mean, boy, I be crying. But you know, the thing is, people like, man, just be glad you got it. OK, that'll mean I want to give it away. The whole I mean, because, you know, you grow it up, Ocho, you just see that big number. You like, you ain't even think about no taxes. What taxes? It don't even cross your mind.

Because the only time you didn't have to deal with, the only time you worry about taxes, you go buy a soda and you pay a two cent or you buy gum or something like that. And you pay a little. Little do you know, damn. That's what you gotta educate educate people on Ocho is that hey yeah that thing might say 15 million but you not bringing home 15 million chop that in half baby depending on where you are yeah that could be half or more than half yeah chop it off half or more than half. Yeah. Yeah. So, I'm just saying just

FY. So, why you oh man, I'm gonna buy this, buy this, okay. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna want his cut. He want his. Yeah. He want that and so uh yeah but he's deserving Ocho. I mean and you know, they took care of uh I love when teams take care of their guys that's been really, really well and don't,

all that playing around and we got a handshake deal and we're gonna get this done, but he is on the contract. Man, go ahead and pay that man. You do this every year. That's why you find yourself in the position that you're in, Cowboys, because you wait till the umpteenth hour. On purpose. Because the thing is, I don't get why

fans don't have a problem. Oh, take a discount. Y'all think these teams give these TV's, these companies deals? These media rights ain't got no deal. You pay a premium. Any advertiser or sponsor are paying a premium for these teams.

But oh, no, but you're the player of aid. I've never understood that. I never understood how fans can be so ingratiating of billionaires and be so hard on a millionaire. The loyalty is to the team, not the player. You're a millionaires the Brawnco. That's still my team. The Ravens or the Bengals or the whomever the Broncos that's still my team whether you're there or not. So naturally the

loyalty lies to the team. Mm hmm. But I wish they understood you know they understood. But hey it is what we ain't changing nobody's mind now Ocho. They they they they've been a fan for an extremely long period of time. A lot of times you grew up, that's who your grandfather,

your father, your mom, or whomever, family members, that's who they're rooting for. You grew up rooting for that. And even though you don't live in the same city where that team played in, you go spread your wings. And that's why when you see the Steelers hit the road, that's why they have a lot more people in the home team. When you see the Cowboys or the Packers or Broncos,

that is why. The Eagles. Eagles, because they grew up, watch that was my team. And when I became an adult, that's still my team. And guess what? I tell my kids, and then my kids grew up, that's their team. Sometimes they branch out like that.

I would get my own team. I want to thank, like, I'm gonna get my own team. I wanna think for myself, I wanna do my own thing. But for the most part, Ocho, that's the way it work. Now you got new teams that just popped up. But everybody, I mean, the last what? The last team, well 2002, when the Texans came in.

Because 95, it was the Panthers and the Jags and then the Houston Texans became a franchise because after the Oilers left and went to Memphis first and then they came on down to Nashville. So, and I don't know, I don't think you will get, I don't, it's so perfectly balanced now, Ocho. You know, you got 32 teams, you got eight, 14 divisions and things like that. So it will be hard to bring in one team, maybe you bring in two, but who got,

I mean, who got an extra $7 million? Jerry don't want another team in Texas. No now the Florida teams don't want another team in Florida you got you got three you got Jacksonville you got Miami you got Tampa what are you gonna put them at oh Joe ain't no way no way to put them Texas you got the Cowboys you got the uh and the and the the Texans they don't want another team in Texas so where can you put it where can you put them these college towns don't want you to bring no damn teams up there so looked like we stuck for a while and let somebody move and and I think the didn't the uh the Washington commanders didn't they just didn't the Washington commanders,

didn't they just close on, they're gonna be ORFK. I think they're gonna build a new stadium right there, yeah. It's not that far away though. Nope. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi, for a conversation that's

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podcasts. Asking Gentie said Daniel Carson could buy a car with the cost of the Raiders' number two jersey. To start running back said kicker Daniel Carson, who was formerly number two, could purchase a new car with the money he was given by Genti for the number. You could probably buy a house actually. I'm not going to say a house but you can buy a car like a nice Mercedes. Genti wouldn't reveal the exact figure he paid but it was significant if Carson can buy a car with it. I won the majority of my career. It's a day of greatness

was born and the day I was born December 2nd. It's a day of greatness was born. And the day I was born, December 2nd, it's a family number. All my family members who played sports wore the number two. Ocho, what is the most money you would spend for the number 85? Shoot, when I went to the- Now I'm talking about that, I'm saying under the impression that

you were first round pick, you were top pick. Let's just say a top 10 pick. I'm talking about now. I'm saying under the impression that you're a first round pick. You're a top pick. Let's just say a top ten pick because Gentile was six pick in the draft. I mean being that it has sentimental value. Maybe maybe close to and he was a top pick

like that. He was number six, right? Yeah. Maybe 100, maybe 100,000 because of what the what the number means is especially with the number of means of him. Hell, I had to pay for 85 from when I went to the Patriots from Aaron Hernandez. How much you pay

for it? I think maybe 25 grand. You said that's the number. That's what you said. That's what I would have said. I would have said 100 thousand. Yeah, he's he's he's showing love though. He he showed love. Yeah. 100 100 100 thousand. Yeah, you can't be Ocho with 81828384868889. You can't be Ocho with that. Uh chat

if you guys were top ten pick and you had a special number that you had pretty much worn through high school and college. What is it amount that you would spend to get that number? Because like most guys are superstitious, don't you? Yeah, I mean, listen, he talked about his family wearing the number, him being born on the second, wearing it through college, his family wore number two. I mean, but a hundred thousand, that's the limit.

That's the limit. I'm not going over that. Absolute limit. Anything over that, but a hundred thousand is that's the limit. That's the limit. I'm not going over that. Absolutely. Anything over that, man, man, go ahead. Forget you. I just started a new, I started a new number, a new number of importance at that point.

Yeah, don't call me Ocho. Don't call me Ocho right now. You call me Ocho, but don't call me Cinco. Yeah. I think Juan Soto gave the, bought the guy a new Tahoe for 22, right? Yeah. Uh I think Juan Soto gave or don't. Don't worry about it. Don't count my pockets. What you want the number? Because I gladly keep kicking field goals in it. I thought you wanted it. Yeah. I mean as a kicker you should be willing to come up off your numbers.

I ain't giving up nothing. Play it like that. Unfortunately I ain't going to be able to do that. I wish you was something I could tell you to make you feel better but no. I'm going to pay for it. Yeah, a hundred grand is what I do. Yeah. A hundred grand. Yeah. And I don't know if cars are married or not.

Hold on. Shohei Otani bought an old boy wife a car, bought a Porsche. Yeah. That's what, yeah, I know Juan Soto bought the guy that gave him 22. He bought him a Tahoe but Shohei bought the player that he got. I don't even know what Shohei number is but he ended I know he ended up buying the guy's wife at Porsche. Yeah. I mean the kind of money they making out that's different. Well, he do think about he got to see getting 70 million in salary and he's probably doing another 10152030 million uh uh uh an endorsement especially in Japan. The Asian market. He's he's king. He's king Kong. I mean had had had I mean the perfect name for him would be Godzilla but had Deki Matsui had that name,

so he can't be Godzilla. Yeah. Yes. He deferred it. He only make it one million a year now, but he deferred. He deferred on the back end. Yeah.

He said, I'm going to go back to Japan and California. Y'all not going to get all my money. Y'all not going to get all my I wish them a good night. Mikey, Commanders Mikey, Sentryl, got in on the fun last night and called his quarterback. Let's take a look at this, Ocho. This was so fun.

Yo, bro. Yo. This is ZB. ZB. That's not in my, yeah. So I'm just gonna see you tomorrow, bro. I was just gonna say good night. Bro, what the f***?

You straight dog? Huh? Bro, we good? What you mean? You just call her and say goodnight. Like bro, goodnight bro. You're my dog bro, I'm just checking in real quick. I just talked to you five minutes ago. I'm I know that but we're like I say good night

bro like sleep well bro. Bro I can't tell my homies like sleep well bro get good rest. Hey bro. I don't know what type of shenanigans you're all right now bro but you're on right now but but you're at the real bonkers right now.

Hey, boy. I hit that. Look here. I said, boy, if you don't get your **** off my phone and hung up so quick, I'm like, are you for real? Good night. Oh, man. Hey, they all all my homies, man would have man if you don't get your ass off my goddamn phone yeah man they would have known something was up because it's something that that that i don't that i don't do

no they would have started cracking jokes would have said some crazy stuff yeah that that i was like hey man you okay over there is that is that cold for something somebody got you kidnapped you hostage or something hey blink twice if you need help yeah do what. Somebody got you kidnapped, you hostage or something. Hey, blink twice if you need help. Yeah. Do what you do. Why you playing like this? Sharp, what 's wrong with you?

Hey, they listen. I can't record it like that. All my people don't say they're going to. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That can't even post. Yeah. Yeah, that ain't something I could do live. Man, boy, you don't get your ass off my phone. Oh, Joe. It's official.

NFL players will be allowed to compete in flag football at LA 28 Olympic Games. NFL owners have now officially approved a resolution to allow their players to participate in flag football in the 2028 Summer Olympics by a vote 32-0. Unanimous! The NFL version of the dream team is coming. Justin Jefferson on flag football in the Olympics and the NFL being able to participate. To be honest, I'm at a loss for words. To think about a chance for playing in the Olympics and getting a gold medal is a dream. Five on five format, which each team filled in a 10 man roster comprised of the following

positions. A quarterback who can only run past the line of scrimmage after handing the ball off and receiving a lateral or going out for a pass. A center who can only go out for a pass immediately after snapping the ball off and receiving a lateral or going out for a pass. A center who can only go out for a pass immediately after snapping the ball. Wide receiver back who can line up as either standard running back or wide receiver. A rusher who can rush the quarterback

from seven yards off the line of scrimmage. Defensive back who's defensively functioning and functions as a traditional corner. Safety who prioritizes defending the pass over the run. Here are the rules, Ocho. The field is 70 yards by 25 yards. 40 minute games to 20 minute half, including a two minute warning.

Four downs to reach midfields and four downs to score touchdown. No plays within five yards of the end zone. Overtime score is tied, with each team getting equal chance to win. the score is tied with five yards of the end zone. Overtime for the score is tied with each team getting equal chance to win. Ocho, you're a general

manager. Pick a ten-man squad. Oh, my ten-man squad. Yeah. Lamar quarterback. You got Lamar. You better take Lamar because he can run and throw. Okay. Yeah, we got Lamar quarterback. Give me, give me Chase. Give me Justin. Okay. Uh we need a

running back, right? Yeah. Uh give me what else we need? You need to I receive a quarterback. You need Russia corner. Give me give me on one side. Give me give me another side. My safety. Give me give me Derwin. Give me Derwin. He can get back there. He range is hell. Um we need a linebacker. We need somebody in the middle.

You better get somebody that can rush the passer. Uh you need Micah. You want Miles Garrett. Give me a mic. He's a little bit more. Little bit more quick twitch. Give me a mic. Can I get Fred Warner now? Not hold on. I think you're trying to you think you're trying to feel a whole a real damn thing. No, no, no, no. I'm just I'm

just saying I'm I'm thinking flag football. Okay, you get a quarterback, a center, wide receiver back. Russia DB. So, we're not a center. Also, we can go out for a pass though. So, it's not going to be a real center.

Yes. So, you want to take Tyreek? Yeah, let's let's add Tyreek going to be my center. Why are you laughing? But also, this is uh let me let me let me say something real quick. Now, I understand that NFL players can do it, but we have legit flag football. Flag football, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That actually play the game.

So I'm hoping they're integrated into this as well, somewhat. Because the game, obviously the game of flag football is going to be new to those that are playing the NFL. And the rules are much different. It's much different. So I'm hoping those that play flag football are able to represent, you know, the country as well, and uh and allow to play alongside the NFL players. I'm hoping that's what it is. It's not strictly only NFL players. Yeah. Uh right now, they're proposed roster to the 2028 Olympic team.

proposed roster to 2028 Olympic team. CBS Sports say this would be the proposed roster Hocho. Jane Daniels at quarterback running back. Jameer Gibbs at running back wide receiver. Devon Achan running back wide receiver. Justin Jefferson wide receiver DB. Jamar Chase wide receiver DB. Travis Hunter wide receiver DB. Rush Michael Parsons. Rush Nolan Smith Jr. the I'm not saying that's a bad thing but we gotta we gotta have more people like that than that though. Not on the field. I'm just saying as far as far as reserves. Reserves. We need more reserves. Well, I'm sure you got a ten-man team. Two, four,

six, eight, ten. That's ten. I don't I don't I mean the 10 man team that we that that that that that CBS pick, I'm probably going to pick somebody or somebody that's elusive, quick twitch. So, Jay and Daniels and Lamar are going to

be my quarterbacks. I like Gibbs at at at running back. I say, I say, come on, but Gibbs Gibbs is a lot 28. I think, you know, I would go say uh uh Christian McCaffrey but he might be a little little old. No, no, no, no, no. I like Gibbs. I'm thinking who who another running back that can that can catch and you know what I'm saying? Don't you know that can catch it because mainly they ain't gonna be running.

They're gonna be throwing the ball. I like Gibbs the best. That's why I think it's either one of the two. I'm talking about that can get gone but but all but the the running backs the best. That know who I... Who is a good rusher? Like Nola Smith. I like Will Anderson Jr. That's a good one. He real twitchy. Cause you gotta get guys, gotta be able to change direction.

Yeah, that can move a little bit. Cause hey, dude guys starting to stop it. And plus you gotta realize these players haven't played flag football in 25 years. That's why when I thought about it, I'm like, well damn, we got players, we got people that represent that represent us that play the game of flag football. They actually play flag football. I'm still curious. I know I know we talk about the

NFL players and how good they are in the NFL. But playing flag football and their rules are completely and entirely different. Entirely different game. Damn, that's a good. When Aston Gentry makes his NFL debut for the Las Vegas Raiders this season, he might be adding a debut,

debuting a new pre-snaps dance in the backfield. Since high school, Gentie has stood straight up with his hands by his side in the backfield before the staff. My stance that some have compared to Mike Myers, the infamous killer in Halloween horror movies. Chip Kelly, the Raiders offensive coordinator, wants me to adopt that different stance in the NFL. Ocho, you have to understand.

If you'd put him down the down three point stance, how is he going to see? He already five eight. So how tall was it when he started playing football? Five foot. What are you going to see? The process started the first day of recent mid camp. You know, sometimes you have to, you have to go with the flow. Jentzy said, Kelly asked him if he had ever played basketball.

I'm like, yeah, I played basketball. You know, I can dunk and all that. He's like, okay, show me how you would guard. And he's acting like he's holding the ball. You don't like guys, you don't like the coach changing the stance. What are we doing? What is Chip Kelly doing? What are we doing? What is Chip Kelly doing?

What are you doing? The man has had success playing the game of running back in the same stance all this time. Now all of a sudden he gets to the Raiders. You want to change the way he stands. It has nothing to do with running the goddamn ball. It's not giving away any indication, no indicators. Leave the man alone, man.

Listen, some coaches, the players. Leave the man change the stance for what? It's unnecessary and it's pointless. Tell me so we both know. Cause if there is something that if that him standing in that stance with an indicator, it's a run, it's a pass, I said okay he needs to switch it. But hell you can't tell he's just standing there. He does the same thing every time. Run, play, pass, play. Nothing changes. And all of a sudden he gets to you. Okay, we want to change. For what?

Makes no sense. Yeah, I wouldn't change. The thing is, Ocho, unless it's something like, you really try to change as little as possible. I mean, maybe there's some technical things. You like, you know, with a wide receiver, you're like, okay, son, don't let your air bubbles flare out when you're doing the hook and stuff like that.

You try to keep your elbows tight to your body, things like that. You know, Hey, you tipping your route because you're getting your head around to you. Let me know you're gonna run out or you're gonna come back or something like that. But other than that, I really tried to tinker with too much because I liked it enough to select him six overall. So there's something that I like. I mean, and you knew that. He's been doing it that way for a very long time. He was successful doing it that way for a very long time. And here you go. Right. I want to add your little twing to it just to say, well, he's able to do this because this is what I told him to do. Come on, man.

Right. It's kind of like Michael Johnson running style. Why would I change that? People keep saying Quincy Winston, the Quincy Wilson, the young guy from Bullis running the 400. Man, bro, the dude run 4420. Change what? Same thing with Aberstiner.

Well, you know, she got that arm and all I know is he ran 21.8 and she ran sub. change what? Same thing with Abbe Steiner. Well, you know, she got that arm and all I know is he ran 218 and she ran sub. You know, she can run sub. You know, you can run sub 11. So, all that other stuff that y'all

talking and she can run sub 50 into 400 meters. I ain't changing the you're doing something right. So, Ocho Dak Prescott is 1500 yards away becoming the all time passing leader. No, Dak needs 1500 yards to pass Troy Aikman. He needs 2740 to pass Tony Romo. So he's about.

He should pass Tony Romo to become the all time passing leader cowboy. the most difficult time for him to become the all-time passively cowboy until until I know he's going to get married. Congratulations. Right. But if you want to be thought of like Akeman like Starbite, gotta get

that. That rain. Ain't no way around it. ain't no way around it ain't no way around it definitely most definitely I mean listen when it comes to the Cowboys I'm not sure how how much window of opportunity they have left I think the addition of George Pickens you know how I feel about him offensively I think they're gonna be alright when it comes to the Cowboys it's gonna be your defense your defense got to show up because you're going to be able to put a point. Yeah, you even going to show up. You know that's all I'm going to come down to especially in that division. You know is.

Diggs is Trayvon going to be able to come back. Yeah, he's he and how soon will he come back? Right? They brought back Dante Fowler. He followed DQ over to the Raider. Excuse me the commanders They resigned him. They want to pair him with Micah Obviously, we know Michael wants that big deal. Micah's looking for 40 million, you know I think he wants to be the highest paid or close to it I don't know if the highest paid means as much as guaranteed money means to him.

We'll see how that plays out. But how close is Trayvon from being able to go? Well, he's a year removed from that surgery because he went a little bit last year, man. I know. I'm not sure. Well, he's he's a year removed from that surgery because you know, he went a little bit last year, man. I know. So, I think

obviously, this this second year, two years removed from it. I think I think he's he's now he had another surgery. Another one. Didn't have another surgery. He didn't finish the season. He got hurt again. I think so. Didn't Trevon Diggs have surgery on something?

I know Overstreet is going to be gone this year. He ain't coming back. He hurt. Or they just shut Trevon down? He coming back from an injury, Ojo, I think. I'm wondering if it's something serious. I don't think it's something serious, the ACL though. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. We dive into the competitive world of streaming,

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Did you make a mistake in sending arms to Tehran, sir? No. No one was let go. It became known as the Iran-Contra affair. And I'm not taking any more questions. In just a second, I'm going to ask Attorney General. I'm Leon Nefock, co-creator of Slow Burn. In my podcast, Fiasco, Iran Contra, you'll hear all the unbelievable details of a scandal

that captivated the nation nearly 40 years ago, but which few of us still remember today. The things that happened were so bizarre and insane, I can't begin to tell you. Please do. To hear the whole story, listen to Fiasco, Yaron tweeted, If the Cowboys go get Chubb, combine him with Blue, the Cowboys offense will be the most dangerous in the NFL. I really can't find a con if that happens. Think about it. Blue gets to learn from a dynamic back who plays the game the right way.

That's how you mold a young promising running back. That really quick pick your poison situation, CDO Pickens can put the ball in the end zone anywhere on the field. There are so many strategic ways for the Cowboys offense for success. I think the defense is going to perform well, but how well we know Micah and Diggs are going to perform.

I'm skeptical to see how these changes affect the defense. To sum it up, I don't think the boys are trying to win. I think they should make a few more sacrifices to compete with the new improved NFC East division. Listen, make a splash, Jerry. Make a splash. What Dez Bryant says makes so much sense. It makes so much sense you know Jerry's not going to do it. Signing Derrick Henry and not using money as an issue, not being able to afford a player like Derrick Henry that has succeeded continuously despite his age in Baltimore, listen, now you have opportunity

to do it again, make a splash again, help your offense out. Your identity is on offense. It's what you will be known for. You have special pieces, you know, on defense. They're going to have to do what they need to do but be all in offensively so you can compete in the NFC NFC East. Wait no.

And this is how about this Trey seven Treyvon tweeted just yesterday. My ACL rehab journey was very successful. I ended up coming back to play two months sooner than I was supposed to. Follow my journey as I give you direct insight on how I did just that. Thankful for everyone who played a role with me getting back out there. Episode one out now. That's live. I gotta check that out. I didn't know he re-injured it. I didn't know that. I didn't know he re-injured it. I didn't know that.

Fred Warner signs a three-year, $63 million contract extension. Over $56 million guaranteed. The deal ties Warner to the team through 2029. The rework deal also returns Warner to the top of the list of the highest paid off-ball linebackers in the league at $21 million per season. Remember, Ro Kwan just signed that deal last year. That paid him 20 million per season and bolted him to the top. Now, Fred is back at the top of that list. You see also they just paid Brock Purdy. He got 265, he got 181 million guaranteed.

Fred got 63 million, 56 million guaranteed. Oh Joe, you like the moves they're making? the team. They got 181 million So, rightfully so at some point, you know, despite what Roe Korn Smith got, you know, you have to, you have to do right. You got to, you got to do right by Fred. You got to. So, I mean, hopefully they can, they can, they can stay healthy on both sides of the ball and contend again, you know, for another championship. Joe Burrow says,

Trey Hendrickson deserves to get paid amid Bengals contract talks having previously vouched for T Higgins to get paid by the Cincinnati Bengals. Joe Burrow is now stepping up for Trey Hendrickson amid his contract

standoff with the organization speaking to reporters on Tuesday Burrow addressed Hendrickson contract by saying he deserves to get paid based on how important he is to Cincinnati's defense. That's going to be tough. Listen, I listen. I don't I don't know the books. I

don't know. Joe spent all the money. Oh, Joe Joe spent all the money. Joe trying to squeeze him now and what one thing you don't want to do is you took care of Joe offensively, making sure Chase and T Higgins were taken care of, both of them taking most of the money. I don't know the cap. I don't know what we have left to actually spend, but we still need to be able to have

a team to be able to pay everyone else. All the money can be locked up on offense. Can we pay Trey? Think about how bad the defense was and we pay Trey? Think about how bad the defense was and you had Trey Hendricks who was seventeen and a half sacks. Thirty-five sacks over

the last two years. So, you take him out there. Where you going to get that production from? We'll take him out of there. Yes. Hey, can you afford him? Is the problem. Can you pay? the question is can you afford not to man. Oh, I don't know. I don't know if I can afford this

insurance. Can you afford to be without it? given your history, you know you got hypertension. You got diabetes. You got all these elements that run in your family. So, the question is,'t can you afford it, can you afford not to have it? Hey, that's. You know how many games y'all lost last year, Ocho? How many games did y'all give up 30 plus points and you lost? You scored 35 and you lost. You scored 38 and you lose.

How many of those? So while you're saying can you afford it, can you afford not to have it? Listen, I wish I knew what the books look like. I understand the salary cap continues to go up year in and year out, but listen, we got a $40 million receiver, we got a $30 million receiver, we got a $55 million quarterback. And what he deserves at the deepest end

were two 17 season sacks. 17 and a half sacks. Yeah. I mean he he gotta get what upwards to what thirty. You're looking for thirty. The reports are they offered him twenty-eight up from up from like fifty. I think he's supposed to make what fifteen this year. He's gonna want to be in the thirties. That's tough. That's tough. And the thing is but look like you got a defense that that's standing in the office that's

standing in the Taj Mahal and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and

and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and

and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and and I wouldn't even know. Cause you got some people say, well hell he had 17 sacks, but still the defense was bad. Can you imagine what it looked like if he didn't have those sacks? Remember what he did? He single-handedly won you that game in Pittsburgh now. You all remember that? Yeah, he did.

He did with the three sacks, he did. He did. He did. And a forced fumble. The end of the game basically. That's tough. Joe Berg was not happy by the team's schedule for the upcoming season. Playing Baltimore for the fourth straight year in prime time is an ideal. game. That's a good game last year's 3534 score 34 points. Yeah. Lost remember the other week.

They scored 38 and they lost 41 38. Listen, I know Joe Joe Joe Joe one to be home. Obviously it makes sense. But hey, when you play the goddamn Ravens, you got one home game. You got one. He said well, let our game be the let our game be the prime time game. you got one. You got one. He said, well, let I gave me the

let I gave me the prime time game. Yeah, I mean, that's I don't know. It it it don't make me none. Nighttime, daytime, anytime. I'm ready to play. But you play with a shield too. Did you play with a shield? I need to see. I

need to see it. I need you to see my eyes. I don't wear no shield. No sir. I had a why I played with a shield for one year No I have a well, I played with the shield for one year after I fractured my arm. I played with a shield but it's hard because you know for wide receivers, you're not really

in the down stance. There's a tight end. You down the down stance and that's where dripping on the shield. I don't like that but you want a clear one or the I wore a clear one now. I wore I wore a dark one in the Pro Bowl but I don't

know how I got I don't know how receivers catch with that I want to get your eyes adjusted, get your cleats and everything adjusted and that glare, it catches just right because you know sometimes that ball get lost up in the light. They're like, man, how you throw? I can see that damn ball up in the lights. That's crazy. Burrow is also disappointed in NFL for not giving them an international game. He says he worked really hard. He's worked really hard to grow the NFL internationally and is disappointed. They haven't had one yet, but he is doing quarterbacks.

Correct. I think yeah. Are you disappointed? Oh Joe that you did not have an international game because they probably asked you to go to be an ambassador. I mean, that would have been cool. That would have been cool. I got my passport too, but um, I mean, that would have been cool. That would have been cool. I got my passport too. But I mean, listen, that

that time will come. Obviously, you know what? That long flight, you should be thankful you don't have to fly there during the season anyway. You should be thankful. And listen, it's not out your day. You know, they get over there.

They get over the day before, right? Again, why they shouldn't where they should be happy. They don't have to take no seven, eight, eight, nine hour They don't do that anymore. to go over there like that Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. They don't do that anymore. They probably get all the practice in before they even leave. Do a walk

through when you get there. They say studies and doctors say it's best to just go over there and just go play the game. Look at that. That's that's that's AA double backwards. I got the Eastern Conference Finals, New York Knicks.

He wrote, Go Pacers. Good luck to Herb. The entire Pacer organization and our city. He passed shortly after that. I've only met him a handful of times. Most of the owners, I mean, let me stop saying most. Every owner that I meet, they're always gracious to me. They always respect the way you play

Really love the way that you do you can tell you study Love that you you know, you love the NFL and we appreciate which we had more guys like you all of them. Mr. Blank Jim Earth say when he was it when he was with the Hornets Jerry Richardson all I mean, I know all I know for the most part all of them when he was with the the the you know, as long as like, I'm always happy. You think, why you always smiling? Why you always laughing? Why you way I live. I live the way I live on every day. I treat every day like it's my last. I'm always happy. People say, oh, I always smiling, but why are you always laughing? Why are you always telling people you love them everywhere you go? Why would you meet

people? You hug them, you hug them. You act like you'd have known them 30 years because I'd never know. I'd never known. So if they, if in remembrance of whenever it's time for me to transition that moment, that one moment, you always remember, it's always a good one. It'll always be a good one. The funny thing about life is when you're born, you never know what your expiration date is. You never know what your expiration date is. So I always love to live life each day as if it's my last. Which is why I look at people that think they can, no matter what you do, if you believe in God, you understand God knows when that day is, you don't.

But for some reason, people on earth have this inclination that there's certain things I can do in life that can extend that expiration date. That's not the way it works. That's not the way it works. You can't extend anything. Well, when it's time to go and then not come to calling at the door, you hear me? When they're not call, boy, you

coming home. It's the one appointment you can't reschedule. Man, stop playing, man. Stop playing. Hey, huh? Oh, I can eat this and I live a little bit longer or I can do

this and I live. I mean, what? Huh? Who? What? Man, if you don't go to the I'm not playing. cause he was a very generous man to the city of Indianapolis. He loved his coats, obviously his dad. I think his dad's name was Bob. What's his name? I think his dad's name was Bob Ercey. He took over for his dad.

I think his daughter's gonna take over for him. Man, that's sad, man. Right, yeah. They call it Bob, yeah. I thought so, yeah. But, Jimur's gone at the age of 65. I'm Michael Kasson, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of 2B. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there and if you can find a way to curate

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