Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Best of Sharelle Rosado + Ocho & Relle relationship stories

Episode Date: October 5, 2024

Relive the best of Sharelle Rosado joining Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson LIVE on Nightcap. Experience your favorite couple Relle & Ocho's best moments, from beefing on vacation to how they fell in love, and much more!03:14 - Relle & Ocho beefing over FaceTime09:55 - Relle "hating" on Ocho?11:30 - The Relle Report live from Houston and Dallas41:00 - Relle & Ocho squash their beef53:00 - Ocho wants his RESPECT01:03:20 - Ocho gives Relle her flowers(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What what you think? All right. I mean, I mean, look, I mean, I mean, that's not what you wanna do, don't do it. I got great ideas with your money. Your money. That's fine, that's fine. Long as we doing something I like to do. Anything that involves cigars,

anything that involves live music, jazz preferably. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cigars. I'm getting my Clinton on. It's like a bachelor party. Does it always have to involve women?

I know. I know it. No, it's your party. It's your night. This is your last night. It's my last night as a freeman. Does that mean I should do something that I wouldn't be able to do on some locked in? I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I know it. No, it's your pump, it's your night. This is your last night. It's my last night as a freeman. Does that mean I should do something that I wouldn't be able to do once I'm logged in?

Nope. No, you can't do, look, don't do anything that is real fine now. That's gonna be the shortest marriage you can see. That's not a good look. That's not a good look. Yeah, so yeah. So, Doc, I don't think you'll let me do that.

Landy Ray said, hey guys, what would you say your love language is? Physical touch, words of affirmation, quality of time, receiving gifts, subservience. What's yours, Ochoa? I'm glad you asked because, I mean, I think Rell and I had this conversation and she told me like,

like, damn, you are so easy to deal with because I don't want for nothing. I'm so simple, I mean, you follow me to chat, they follow me throughout the years, you follow me on social media, and you can see how simplistic my lifestyle is and I'm not really complicated by any means. My love language, like,

what would it be? Man, that's a good question. You like gifts? No, I don't really care. I don't really care for gifts. Baby! And that's a good question You like gifts nine now really count really can't forget baby you Yeah, I don't really care for no gifts. Hey, what is hold on? This is a good question I really want to know the answer to this cuz she gonna be able to say it right off the back. Hold on Okay, okay She said, she said, attention, attention, attention, attention and affection.

Yeah. What? I know. Okay, okay, okay. Attention. Because she said when you shoot it, you didn't have any time. As long as you have your time, you're good. But when you don't have anything to argue about your as you have something to occupy your time, you good. But when you don't have anything to occupy your time,

you want her to be attentive to you. Matter of fact, I'm so glad you said that. Speaking of, we got into it again. We got into it again. I worship you now, and I'm not even playing it. She right here. Y'all have first watch out there where you at? Yeah. First watch. It's like, um, like a Denny's. I have a little bit more and I don't want to use the word upscale, but a

little more. Yeah. So I mean, I mean breakfast, right? I mean breakfast. I get eating breakfast, right? You're supposed to be froze. I'm eating breakfast. I get my normal, I get my French toast, and I get my steak and eggs, right? And I get my fruit bowl. So she called my phone. So I placed the phone up. I got the phone in my hand and I'm eating my food. So I got my sunglasses. I got my sunglasses sitting on my head.

My sunglasses fall by accident, right? Not by accident. And I put them back up real fast. And the waitress was in front of me. Rail, think somebody's sitting there. She say, man, who in the fuck is that sitting in front of you? I know you're not playing with me.

Put your glasses back down. So I took my glasses. I'm like, and I put them down on the table. She's like, Chad, don't you play with me? Who in the hell is it? And she's thinking it's funny. She said, turn the camera around. I turn the camera around. He didn't turn the camera around. He didn't turn the camera around. Hold on. Listen, I turned the camera around. My plate of camera around. He didn't turn the camera around. He didn't turn the camera around. Hold on, listen. I turned the camera around. My plate of food is right there. My French toast, I had finished already and I'm eating my steak and eggs.

I'm like, man, what is your problem? Then the waitress comes right back out right again and now the waitress nervous because she can hear her cursing and I'm confused. I was not. It was so embarrassing because I was not. It was. You acted up my damn way. It was so embarrassing because I didn't want to snap and the waitress was like, the waitress got scared because she could hear a cursing so the waitress went away the first time and she came back.

That makes sure everything was okay. That was terrible. That was terrible. Boy, she snapped. She snapped. Put your glasses back down. Real, you snapped on it for real, Real? Tell her.

Tell her. Tell her. It was, it was. I was like, put your glasses back down. You snapped on it for real, bro? No. Tell him how you did it. Dude, don't laugh. I said, put your glasses back down. I didn't say that.

I said, and he didn't play it. No. I said, don't play it in my face. Did you tell him he was playing it in your face, bro? That's what I said. No, say it how you said it. Say it how you said it over the phone. I'm not just saying. Say it just how you said it.

Man, she would talk to me like I'm not even Ocho. Like she, like, we almost got into it. But again, she apologized, said I was sorry because when my glasses fell and they went back up, she saw the reflection of the waitress sitting in front of me and it was her. And by the time it dawned on me what she was talking about because she was confusing me

because instead of just communicating and talking normal, she was screaming like she was my homeboy and like she wanted to fight. I had a tone in my voice but I don't scream. I just had authority in my voice. Yeah. But you just wanted to let him know the seriousness of what you were saying. I was about to pull up on you. I was about to pull up, baby.

Hey, that's about straight hood. Straight out the hood. Out the hood. But sorry about that. But go ahead. I forgot to tell you about that story, man. Yeah, my bad. Now it's time for our last segment, and it's a Q and A. ["Ocho Looky"] Q and A, No Chill Gil said,

no invite, woo, with Ocho Looky. With Ocho Looky, clean! Hey, you see invite, woo. Ocho looking, with Ocho looking clean. Hey, you see me Gil, where you at Gil? Hey Gil, see listen, listen, a lot of people will look at it, right? And you think it's very expensive. This one, it's for $200. It's for $200. I'm surprised it cost that much.

Yeah, I had it. I pulled one thread undressed. Yeah, it probably was. I'm not sure. You probably were. But yeah, I got a tailor, right? I got a tailor to fit, you know, real slim fit, cause you know, I got a model type body. I'm the type of fit.

Yeah, yeah. What real tell you? What real tell you today? You know what? That she be hatin'. Yeah, I ain't no hatin'. What real say? Real told me you need to get back in the gym.

So that kind of stung a little bit, cause that's like me, me dating her and saying like, oh baby, you know, you need to unbig your back. I would really feel about to tell her. She say get to the gym. Yeah, yeah, but listen, I'm gonna stay at home fathering. I don't have time for the gym. I have nobody to impress.

I already got you now. I got you now. I don't want to tell the gym. I have nobody to impress. I already got you now. I got you now. I don't want to tell Lisa, you get a good, you get cut. Ooh, that's tough. You ain't get that. That's tough. Hey, man. Man, y'all ain't even get me.

Y'all ain't even get me up out of here. And now it's time for you guys, one of you guys' favorite segment the rail report come on out here Hey, we'll need a mic right red rail might Hey real Hey, uh, hey y'all. Hey! Hey! Hey y'all, hey y'all, hey y'all. How you doing, Rae? I'm doing amazing.

You just flew into town today, you know, Rae sprung in town today. We ain't doing amazing, we f***ing beefing. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. She like, uh, I'm coming, I wanna see my man, I've been away from him for a minute, so I'm coming, I said, come on, Rae. I came to support. Yeah, she came. Even when we beefing, I'm coming, I wanna see my man. I've been away from him for a minute, so I'm coming. I said, come on, man.

I came to support. Yeah, she came. Even when we beefing, I still support. Now see, that's what you need, old chump. I mean, listen, time, let me take my glass off. Like, we beefing for real, like no bull. I ain't talk to real in six, seven days. How many days has it been?

I've been busy. F*** this s***. I just want y'all to know we beefing for real. He lying. And um. You still loving so? That's what people, that's what couples do. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Let me finish.

Cause I'm mad. What they used to say, scratch your ass and get glad. Yes. Alright. Right now, you're upset. I'm mad. No bullshit. Animals get mad. Humans get upset.

So right now you're upset. You have a little disagreement. You know, Rell said it was rainy outside. You said it was sunny. And y'all have a little disagreement. That's what happens. Couple disagree sometimes. Oh, damn.

You think it's going to be great all the time any couples that they all go Yeah, they are you are you going through it too, okay, okay, hey holla at me after the show oh Oh your lady taking a picture, too So I like the pictures. Okay. Look at that. I see me. Yeah, look at that.

She all right. Oh, you got a step on, you better hold on. You better hold on. Women like Rell, they don't come easy. Make their own money, got their own money she can Rail is a standalone There is not a whole lot of women that can stand alone right rail can carry her own right and I know sometimes look I'm a lot older than you oh Joe and I can I'm speaking from experience I'm speaking I'm speaking from experience.

And it's easy, like when you get upset with your partner and the first thing you go, let her know what she's effing up with, I'm the dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm an Ocho Nance. And I'm motherfucking real. So with that being said, look, this ain't nothing that we can't overcome. We family. How about we have, how about this here?

Like when I go on vacation next year, you and Ray are host nightcap. You said, you said you said you wanted you what a I want to be on first date Bro when I'm going on first date when I take my two months off You would take my two days and your date. No, no, no, I want to come on there with you and Stephen a like right now I Know I'm on Mondays and Tuesdays. Okay, I'm gonna come on Mondays and Tuesdays. No, you take the week in, you take Thursday and Friday.

Ain't nobody watching on Thursday and Friday. Yeah they do, that's leading into the game. Nah. Nah. But first of all, I don't run first take. Right. That's something you gotta take up with Stephen A. All right, don't worry about it, we good, we good, we good.

And hey, just so y'all know this ain't no script This ain't really the real report is part of the show. But on on God we really beefing Yes, so they don't think this ain't serious serious and I'm mad Come on. I'm gonna cook you what you thought what got, what's eating Ocho's grape? Gilbert. Who is Gilbert? Gilbert grape, real grape, no. What's eating Gilbert's grape?

It went over a head. Leonardo DiCaprio. Okay, come on, come on, come on, come on. I'm in a row, my bad. Are you happy to see Raelle? I mean, I mean, to have your woman on her own dime, I'm going to support my man. I know he's beefing, I know he's upset with me,

I'm upset with him. But I'm gonna show my support no matter what. That's something, bro. Cause a lot of them on fours, hey, when they get mad, they looking too. Yeah. And she here. I mean, my peripheral views, no, they looking too. Yeah. And she here. I mean, my peripheral views, no, I'm joking.

Listen, listen, I had to get my payback because I heard this **** talking to me. I'll get your leg back. All right, all right, all right, all right. Tip of tat head ****. All right. So, Real, we miss you in the A. We thought you were going to come to the A.

It wasn't able to happen, but here you are in Houston. So, what do you think? I We thought you were going to come to the A. It wasn't able to happen, but here you are in Houston. So what do you think? I mean, you've been to Houston plenty of times, I'm sure. I love Houston. Listen, as soon as I landed, Houston... I was thinking about opening up a brokerage here, but Houston is like... Yeah. If I was to ever relocate, I probably would relocate to Houston. Oh, Joe, we might be neighbors. If I ever relocate, I'm going to relocate to Houston. Oh, Joe, we might be neighbors.

If I ever relocate, I'm going to relocate to Houston, too. I'm coming, too. So I landed, and I went to a restaurant called Taste. Oh, my goodness. I had Oxtails and Grits. What? Oxtails? Oxtails and Grits.

I had fried chicken, candy yams, collard greens. What the hell, real? And the red velvet waffle. It was so good. You ate all that? I ate all of it. But you know what? I had something better. I had something better because when I landed two days ago, I went to Grooves and I had grits and eggs scrambled lightly salted two sausages and a pancake links the patties huh links the patties I'm a link it does hey what y'all think about this don Don't y'all think they're doing too much with oxtails now? Eric, bro, it used to be, come on, you can't put oxtail, you got oxtail Cheese steak, you got tacos, pasta, come on. Why did you have the oxtails and rice? I put the oxtails and grits, they good.

Oh, see, you go oxtails and grits now. You don't eat oxtails and grits? They good. Well, oxtails and grits good, boy. Ain't no bullsh**. Listen, you talk, you eat tail and everything so So ain't nobody's audience surprised by you talk about oh they do the same thing they just laughing cuz we sitting up here Oh, they oh, so they've been lying a little it all I'm lying turn the lights on look at their face Yeah, I saw my own boy he he dropped his hand. Yeah, yeah.

They got me, they got me. So, Rae, so what's going on? As far as Chad and I? Yeah, you and Chad. Exactly. Yeah, she said don't play in her face. Don't play in my niece's face now, Ocho. That's right.

I don't know, I feel like Chad just I Don't know he get in his way sometimes and he just the world revolves around Chad It does no What you say it you say it? Oh real? Oh real? Oh, you know what it's like to have a woman to provide a lifestyle for you and you ain't got to worry about it But that was that was a choice for me to be a stay-at-home father that was a choice of mine But I can also unretire and go back to doing what I do. It's kind of hard. Oh Joe I know I mean you stop working for a minute

Ask them ladies and some of them ladies that start working for a minute and then try to get back out there in that workforce. You gonna help me out at first date? No, I ain't gonna be able to do that. I'm team real. That's right. That's fine. That's fine. No, we just get an hour. I feel like sometimes it's good to have a little break.

Yes! Because we get angry and it's not good to communicate well you're angry so when we get into our little modes I just focus work she called me ugly I called you a lot of who tell it you can't come ugly I didn't say you was ugly if you was ugly I won't be with you You right by that you were acting ugly Oh Well, you knew what you signed up for Nah, you met the representative.

You said that guy. Yes. How long you guys been together? Four years. 19, 20, 21, 22. Oh, it's going on five. Yeah. Yeah.

Five. Five. God damn. Guess what? September, October, November, December, January. In six months. What's that? Hey, it's Miss Sherrell.

It's Mr. Chad Rosado. Oh! You see? You see? You see what I mean? See we- I mean it's not Puerto Rico though. It does sound Puerto Rico though.

We created a monster. We have created a monster. See y'all laughing but don't understand behind closed doors how she abused me like not no verbally like like y'all don't get it I don't wanna like I don't want to get emotional and start crying like verbally abuse them the ones you got to watch for. You know the... Yeah. I am from the South. Nothing but Southern hospitality over here. Nothing but. Nothing but. Phoenix City, Alabama. Period. Child please. Sin City, Alabama. Yeah. Well, Real thanks for stopping by. We really appreciate you. We know you and you and Ocho gonna make that thing up tonight I can't I feel sorry for that I feel sorry for

whoever the room no no no no I'm going out tonight you want it on I have an early flight in the morning yeah that's okay that's okay no I'm going out tonight at the eight with Dre at Dre out there he by Joe Joe Joe Joe where Dre at? Dre out there? He back there. J.J. where you at? Why don't we just catch Dre out? J.J. where we at tonight? All the... See, we already know how that is. There you go J.J. J.J. I'm with y'all tonight baby.

We finna... Wait hold on, T.O.T. where you at? T you here? T. What's up boy? Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. T. T. That's how you do it. Ha ha ha. What's up, boy? I'm going out here. Where we at tonight? We out tonight? All right. See, I'm right here. I'm right here. All right, y'all. Give it up for Sherelle Rosado Johnson. By rail. We're going to be back in a minute.

We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute.

We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. We're going to be back in a minute. All right, y'all, give it up for Sherelle Rosado Johnson. Bye, Real. We're turning up the heat on the newest episode of All the Smoke.

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anticipate you to stay on the road this long Did you go back home, but you just came you came to straight to Dallas. I went back home I had to go to Tampa. I'm doing affordable homes in Tampa, right? There's a shortage We got to make sure that you know we can help out the people who need to purchase homes, so I'm doing that and I'm back in Miami and you know, I make time for it nightcap Well, we really appreciate that. I think the question that everybody wants to know you and Ocho still beefing Yeah, damn right. We need time. I don't know why he act like I'm in a doghouse, but he's in the doghouse No, we beefing you know, it's something that's really funny.

You know how you look at Instagrams, you look at Twitter, you look at just pictures in general when it comes to couples. You ever notice how they always show you the good? Everybody's always smiling, everybody's always happy. They don't never tell you about the mother up and the mother down. Why you gotta curse so much?

Why you gotta curse so much? Because I'm mad. My daddy is mad I'm trying I'm trying to share my experience to let you know that it ain't always happy it ain't always smiling she make me mad and I love them right I love her that's that's my that's my dog but she in a dog house. Well, if you love her, give her a kiss. Uh-uh, I don't know. I'm in a dog house? Oh.

Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. I can't kiss her. I got chapstick on. And he been smoking cigars. He been smoking cigars.

You don't like cigars? It's funny. When we met, when we yes, I was smoking cigars It was no problem It was no problem You brush your teeth and you had a mint in the back of your mouth now you got complacent right and you think you're supposed to Just kiss on me without doing all that so that's not love That's not love. I got it. I got to do all this extra stuff

But I got it if I got to do all this extra stuff You was doing the extra sh** when we first met But I got you now so what's the point? That's why you hit it Okay, Real How did you and Ocho meet? That's I think that's the million dollar question DJ go ahead and play it goes down in the deal Yeah she was being thirsty for me No I sent some heart eyes

You did? I did Okay, you would be thirsty for me. No, I said some hard eyes you did okay? You knew what you wanted so crazy thing is chat has always been my celebrity crush. Okay like No, he's always been my celebrity crush like Like, if I would describe the perfect man, it was him. Chocolate. Yeah. Chocolate, pretty smile. Right. Go into detail.

Tell me some more. So you sent us the hard eyes. How long did it take him to respond? immediately whether the day was it two days? Damn, oh Joe I Just happened to have my phone in my hand. Yeah, okay. Okay phone was in my hand Okay, but it wasn't five seconds about 30 seconds Because I had to scroll through the pictures first and make sure she was What she was and I saw the feet you saw the feet

I saw the feet and that's the only reason we together is because I seen the feet, you know, I'm a foot guy Yeah, I know I really can't help myself. You're a lot of guy. Yeah anything the end. Oh Don't elbow. Oh Yeah, so I seen a feet guy answer so fast on boom and I Yeah, so I seen a feet guy answer so fast on boom and I Long maybe two. How long did it take? Okay, you said the hard eyes he responds up damn near immediately So how long before you guys actually met face to face? It was about four weeks Close hold a mic closer. It was about three and a half weeks. Okay It's about three and a half weeks. Okay

I don't remember the story like that. I got the time. I got the time stamp. It was three and a half Three and a half weeks. Yeah, I was trying to come sooner, but So three and a half weeks we went to Green Bay you went to him or he came to you I went to him, okay Yes, you did we went to Green Bay we talked and I was actually surprised because the guy who I thought I Knew was a different person. Yeah. He spoke a lot very intellectual. I thought I was dealing with a hood. I could be hood, I could be out of switch. He switched it up on me. We connected just like that. I tried to be a gentleman. The first time coming in town. Open the door. Daddy is here, so hush. Daddy cover your ears. She came to Green Bay, I would go daddy is here. So hey, no Papa Papa can know Papa daddy cover your ears You know, she came to Green Bay. I was working doing my stuff with EA The game it was that the Packers and whatever whoever I think the Bears, okay

That's like well, I get your room. It's like no no, I'll stay with you. Okay No, you was like I'll sleep in the liver. I said I sleep in the living room just so you comfortable I ain't fly here for liver. I said I sleep in the living room just so you comfortable Yes, yeah and from that day on we separate so we coming up on five years coming up on five years Yeah, and the wedding is is planned for February 25, right? And the wedding is planned for February 25, right? 222 222 equals 8 in the year 585 What advice would you offer women obviously, you know, you're a savvy businesswoman. You built this brand. You built this business through a lot of hard work,

a lot of determination. What advice would you give women that want to follow in your path? I think, you know, choose you first. I was at a point where I felt like I needed to put, I was at a point where I felt like I needed to put my man was at a point where I felt like I needed to put my man first and follow his dreams but find you someone that supports you and

go after your dreams. It only works, a lot of people think that you should put your kids first but that's not true because you stress out and in order for for everyone else to be happy, you have to be happy. So focus on your dreams, do what you need to do, communicate with your kids, with your spouse, and everything else will fall in place. So that's the biggest thing, making sure that I'm set. If I'm set and I'm good to go,

then everybody else attached to me will be good. How did the military, obviously everybody knows, I don't know if they know, but Sherelle was in the military so how did that military because you know you have to be disciplined you have to be structured you have to be punctual how has that helped you in your business? It taught me discipline it taught me how to deal with different personalities I do on a brokerage I deal with different personalities so it do honor brokerage. I deal with different personalities. So it did teach me how to be able to lead different personalities.

I mean, everyone is not the same. It taught me structure, mainly discipline, how to lead. I did 13 years in the army, two tours to Afghanistan. I jumped out of airplanes. I was a bad-ass mother Yeah, and she pulled the gun on me twice No for real yeah, oh But when I told you oh girl pulled one on me you to my oh, yeah, but that wasn't your girl

That was somebody else girl girl that was somebody else girl. That's the difference. But it definitely taught me discipline and you know how to control my emotions and how to communicate because you dip you're dealing with different personalities and people wasn't raised how you were raised. So you learn a lot What you travel a lot I mean Oh Joe say you've already been to Turks and Caicos like three times this year You travel a lot obviously when you're in the military you move around a lot But what are some of the destinations that you haven't gone that you would like to go to? Africa Africa

So you want to do like you want to do like a safari you want to go to the Seychelles you want to go to Zanzibar Everywhere she want to go out and been two three times already want to go out and been two three times already? No you have not. Name some where I haven't been yet. Our first place was the Maldives you never went there we went together. Oh yeah that's right. Exactly. But that don't count cuz ain't nothing not there. You haven't been to Dubai. I just ain't nothing not there for me. It is, it's a lot. What's the only reason I travel to do what? The only reason I travel is to watch what? Soccer even this thing. You know that I just Ain't in the Maldives. I know but it was your birthday. That's the only reason I went you came because of me

It was nice. I'm just yeah, I'm not into traveling. I'm not in a sightseeing. I'm not into taking pictures like it's not a compromise I like to travel. I got to have the compromise. I did compromise You know how to compromise That is I know I wanted you so I put no Yeah, look at her, she's violent, okay, she's violent, okay. You see how violent she is? Next question. What advice would you offer young mothers? Because you have kids, and to juggle kids,

juggle your business, juggle a relationship, how difficult, and what advice would you like to share with some of these young women out here? It's very hard, and don't get discouraged. Like, go after your dreams have a village I don't do it all on my own like my father is here papa He helps out a lot and a lot of people will say bad things Oh, you're not taking care of your kids this that in the third

But you know the bigger picture like you know your end result You don't have to explain anything to anyone else as long as you're communicating with your inner circle your babies Let them know this is why I'm doing this because this is the bigger picture. That's all that matters Wow, so what was the hardest part about starting a business because I mean, I don't know if you've ever owned a business before But what was the hardest part? You would say was the hardest part to get this thing off the ground and get it moving so quick story I But what was the hardest part you would say was the hardest part to get this thing off the ground and get it moving so quick story I Did 13 years in the military right when I knew I was medically retired. I started my business, okay, and

Everyone around me was like you crazy you about to give up 13 years You need to get a GS job a government job and go back in and I'm like no So I started my business while I was still active duty military. Okay, wow. So once I medically retired my leave date, I jumped right into my own business. Wow. So I didn't even have time to even think about the hard parts.

Because once I jumped into my business, I started recruiting, then I landed a TV show. My business wasn't even set up for three months, and I had a show on Netflix. Did you always know you wanted to be a businesswoman? Yeah, give her a round of applause, that's unbelievable. It is. It was a lot of hard, like I had a lot of criticism,

I had a lot of, oh, y'all ain't doing nothing, y'all. But the biggest picture was to show us as minorities, us as black women, that we can get into luxury as well. When I first got into real estate, it's like, I was like, how can I sell two million, three million? They was like, girl, it's all about who you know. Nobody had the blueprint.

And I wanted to change that. So I recruited some women and I took a different route and it got me to Netflix but No, did you always know you wanted to be an entrepreneur did you always know you wanted to be a businesswoman honestly I didn't have a plan. I was a teenage mom. I lost my track scholarship. A lot of people don't know that Yes, I was the 400 runner you see yeah a lot of people don't know that. Yes, I was a 400 runner. You see these legs. But I lost my track scholarship and it wasn't about me anymore, it was about my child. So I decided to go into the military. I didn't have a plan. I did 12 years, 12 and a half, 13 years. And

I was like, I'm tired of working for people I've seen people stress out die at the age of 55 working for the government I was like I'm I want to be my own business owner and it just blew up from there yeah oh Joe hold on there now what she did that is is I'd help to now what you have with oh not with the business because the business will see it before you came along baby okay but you did help once you came into my life you did help take it to that okay let me get you together now I gave you a little catapult now. Don't do it. Okay. You did. You did. I'ma give you your credit. Yeah. So y'all business partners not hojo?

No, we're not business partners. He supports- You can't mix business and pleasure. No sir. You can't do that. And I don't know nothing about real estate. I don't know nothing about real estate at all. He supports a lot and I'm truly grateful for that baby. I'm in the streets. What streets? In the streets. My business is in my business. What streets? In the sheets. Oh.

No, streets. Oh, I thought you said streets. No you're not. I called the other day, I said, Oh Joe, let's go do something. Oh, I'm all ready to be. Yeah, I was in bed. Oh, let me tell y'all.

So y'all wasn't there for Houston. He was trying to act all hard and bad, like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, she in the dog house. I early go back to the hotel cuz I was tired. I had an early flight back to Tampa Where you staying at? That's not My watch what I Had left my watching her person I just want to go get my wife. What's your room number?

I like it. Oh, that's nice You start you you you you like dating the process all over again It's like first time like a where you at you knocked on the door. Yeah, you know too hard You didn't want to disturb the neighbor you like So how you gonna talk about you at a dog all together can't go ahead we in public come on That's my dog Man look here, but y'all y'all y'all amazing together, man I love look everybody's gonna go through something if you're in a relationship To say that it's peaches and cream every single day

And I think I think I love the fact that people do watch us I mean they go to the extreme I'm not gonna lie, but chatting out or normal just like everyone else out here. We go through things You know we shut down with each other. We need a break. She's stubborn. You stubborn too. She's stubborn. But at the end of the day, our love overpowers everything. And you know, we have a great family. We have great support. And that's all that matters.

And we keep God first. Well, you know what? Since y'all back together, thank you, guys. Dallas, Terrell Rosado. Ocho, before we move on, Ocho and Rell, guys have officially made up. They've kissed and made up. And so down, and they get, look at you.

He, he, he, he, he. Now we ain't, we ain't, we ain't, I mean, look, we, we all right, we all right. But listen, I eased up, you know how you, you drive it right and you step on the brake. So I stepped on the brake a little bit. I am easing off of it. I ease off it all the way, because if you ease off it all the way, they don't think sweet, sweet, sweet.

And I'm being serious for those. But, you know, I mean, I'm I'm I'm handling this as mature as I can. Well, I'm sure that probably can. So I was. Yeah, mature as I possibly can. So she right there. Yeah, I appreciate that. She right there behind me. You can't see her? Oh, she in the bed asleep.

Baby. Wait, wait, wait. Yeah, she not that back there. Listen, she back there snoring like a rhino. Realcy, I'm traveling. Realcy, I'm traveling. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, she came with me, you know, came to support me at Inside NFL, Winsy. So, you know, we left there and drove on down to New York.

So, you know, we in New York, I see people in the chat making fun of me, talking about, what you in the storage unit with no lights? Somebody say, what you back in the closet, put you in the storage unit? No, I'm going to tell you, I got the lights on because, you know, my little baby here, my little baby back there, no snoring. But yeah, she's sleeping.

But other than that, man, I just, I mean, we good, man. We can take things slow. What I need to do, I need to start over with her. Yeah, because we in year five, right? And we got to look comfortable. I need to start over with her. Yeah. Cause we in year five, right? And we, I think I gotta look comfortable. I think she didn't got a little comfortable. She didn't got a little complacent.

I think I got a little complacent. And it ain't the same like it was in the beginning. I need to record. I need to find ways to fall in love again, you know? And find ways to read date, you know? All that good stuff, man, you know, just add a little, little pepper and spice of this shit. Because we you know, we got everything became routine. Yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm just be honest, we took we had a good job. Yeah, we had a good talk, man. Drive from Philly to here. But we had a man. About, about time she took, you know, something that most women don't. She took accountability. I was like, okay, I'm proud of you. That's good, because you ain't did that in five years. I like that.

I like that. I like that. I like we look. Own it. Yeah, yeah, that my daughter. Clean it up. Yeah, yeah. But the greatest apology is change your behavior. Oh yeah, oh yeah, it is, it is, it up. Yeah, yeah. But the greatest apology is change behavior.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, it is, it is, it is. But listen, listen, I like when I hear that phrase right there. The greatest apology is change behavior. Now, there's only so much we can do as humans because you are who you are, especially at our big age, you know, and at times, if you have to change too much of who you are to be someone else, then you lose a sense of yourself.

And that's one thing I can't do. I can't lose a sense of self and what makes me me. Now the issues and problems that we do have are not magnified that much because they're small. Yeah, they're fixable problems, but what I need to do is I need to find a way to minimize the small problem because small problem continue to build and build and build and build and build. Well, that's why you jump on that.

But here's the thing, Ocho, long as you approach it in a way that's not confrontational, you're like, baby, I want to talk to you about that. And, you know, it's not an issue, but I don't want it to become an issue. So and then you approach it like that. You don't approach it in a confrontational manner. You don't cause like, you wrong and I'm right in this situation. You talk to her. Like I said, I just know real through you,

but I think, you know, she's probably... Because the one thing I do know, Ocho, she loves you. She wanted you. She wanted you. She wanted you. She wanted you. She wanted you. And it's one thing when a woman wants a man, there's not a whole lot that woman won't do for that man. Yeah. And vice versa. And vice versa.

You know, I don't think I'm breaking it. I'm not breaking the news. But when a woman really wants a man, and she put herself out there, like, yeah, I want you. Let it be known. Let the record clearly state that Rae-O wants Ocho. That's not how she told me. She said, she said, I want you, but I don't need you. So like, it was she kind of hit me with like a backhanded compliment at the same time like well Then you let me just say you want me you had to tell me you need me

We know we know we know you good, but I think we we on the right path. We do we doing good We doing good, but I like and I some somebody tweeted me the other day Why are you always posting me y'all beefing? But listen, I post when we happy. I post when we smiling. I post when we sleeping. I post when we wake up in the morning. I post every goddamn thing. I'm not living privately

because I ain't got nothing to goddamn hide. Like some of these people that think they, they want to be so secretive and like who the fuck is y'all? I ain't no mother. Hey Lista, I'm going through the same shit y'all go through in the chat. I'm going through the same shit you go through. Maybe y'all go through the same thing. I had for what?

We got, I go through the same argument y'all go through. We had the same fights y'all have. I think that, like I said, it's OK. But as somebody that's gone to therapy for a number of years and many of times, is that the therapists always say, Shannon, are you arguing to be right or are you arguing for right?

So you say there are two different things. They both end with right, but what are you arguing for? And you have to be able to communicate with your partner, both in a language they can understand. If you speak in Mandarin Chinese, and she's speaking Spanish, or she's speaking Portuguese, there's no communication there. And you've got to have communicated,, when you have uncommunicated expectations,

you have expectations for Raell. Raell has expectations for you. But they aren't communicated. See, this is where the problem starts to arrive, because there's uncommunicated... Well, I thought Ocho was gonna take me this. Well, she didn't tell me, so how am I supposed to know? Right.

See, sometimes we get to the thing, well, you should just know, no, baby ain't tell me, so how am I supposed to know? Right. See, sometimes we get to the thing, where you should just know, no, baby, just tell me what you want. Just tell me what you want. I can't read your mind. I'm gonna try to do what I can to make sure that happens. Because I want to make you happy. Because at the end of the day,

a man, when he's looking for, I'm talking about a real woman, it's not an education, Ocho. It's not an educational joke. It's not a body. It's not a beauty. It's not the sex. Can you bring them peace? Because all those things, all those things, but the finest, beautiful. I mean, hanging from the chandelier, the ceiling fan,

and he can turn it on high. Yeah. Yes, sir. But if you don't give that man peace, eventually he gonna leave. Yeah. But you know what, also, in turn, one of the things I learned, especially about myself now, like I like what you're talking about,

but I'm gonna take accountability on my end. So I got to bring, Yeah. Old hell real piece from the goddamn self. I got to bring. Yeah, hell real piece. My god damn self. I got I got I bring up peace. So normally if I'm bringing her peace, then once I once I cross that threshold in that door that I call my safe place or my safe haven, whatever you need, then I do get peace. Now, if I'm gonna goddamn donkey. And I'm expecting that I'm expecting her to bring me peace when I'm acting a fool. Oh and I'm expecting to hug to bring me peace when I'm acting a fool.

Oh no, it don't work that way. You're right on the joke. It's like relationships are tough. You got to work at it. Just like there are very few people. I mean, just look, you got to get a football because you worked at it. You practiced at it, you studied it.

You have to take that same approach with your relationship. With your married or whatever, however, whatever you wanna call your relationship, you've gotta put that same kind of laser focus into that to make sure your partner's happy. She brings you peace, you bring her peace. She gives you happiness. But your partner can't give you happiness.

People's like, when people say, I found happiness, happiness is not something you find happiness is something you create. Create happiness. Yeah, yeah. And in the process of you being happy. You where you need to be. First, it can't move you off that they're just going to bring you more. Well, yeah, and that's that's, that's a lot of that's a lot of pressure. You're part of the two.

That's that. And that's that's for you all in the chat. You know, you're always relying on your man. And you've always belonged to your woman to make you happy. But happiness comes within. You got to already be happy. You got the is already got to be up in you because if it ain't in you and you rely on someone else, you know how human nature, human nature, let you down. Human nature let you down every time.

This is what you gotta be careful. You gotta be careful what you tell people because if people know what makes you tick, they can wind you up and make you tick when they want to. Now, if a person can make you happy, what else can they make you? Say it. Yeah.

I mean, it doesn't matter. Yeah. It doesn't matter how you flip the pancake. It's still flat on both sides. Oh, yeah. They play with you like a puppet. Pull your strings when they want to. I'm happy for you, bro.

You know, hey, bro, you know I'm pulling for you. I'm looking. I'm looking to go. You know, your boy is looking to go. You know, I might pull up with some. You know, hey bro, you know I'm pulling for you. I'm looking, I'm looking to go. You know, your boy looking to go. You know, I might pull up with some, you know, I might pull up with some. Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah. Listen, favorite is on, man.

Is on that favorite, baby. That's okay, that's okay. Trying to pretend like she asleep. You know, I look at, I look at, I look at, yeah. You know, I might step out, you know, your old shape. Oh, show you step out there with old step. I, you know. What you gonna wear?

What you gonna wear? I mean, you gonna be on the beach, so I need to pull out some linen or something. Yeah, we can be. Yeah, you know, I have a linen. Yeah, you gotta have some linen on. Hey, hey, listen, when your boy pull up on that white horse, you gonna see me back from 300, 300, 300 yards away coming. Yeah, white horse, your boy pull up on that white horse, you're going to see me back from 300, 300 yards away coming.

Yeah, white horse. I'm pulling up on a white horse. She going to have one of those sun-dressed, little slingy, you know, you know. You know what I mean? Yeah. Right. You know.

And you know, the night before, I will be on that, I will be on that pack, that roast bar, the Rubik's. Yeah. Yeah?ies. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Yeah, I'm going to smart. I see now, you know what? You got to be careful bringing a plus one now, because you never know it's going to be.

Hey. I'm just throwing out. Listen, I'm going to. I don't see. OK. I don't see, I don't peek no. Okay, I don't peek no. Hey, no, okay, okay, okay. You know, you boy, what? Hey, Ocho, when I get on the sparks, I work for an oil company, I be drilling.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I'm just saying, Ocho, I'm on the sparks, I be drilling. What the fuck you saying? Hey, take the call, y'all need to hire your boy. Hey, D. All right, all right hire your boy. A, D. All right, all right. Offshore. Yeah, oh, she don't play.

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Huh? Rell got it coming down when my mama was here. Matter of fact, I'm going to show you. You can't even see, right? Listen, remember I told you when my mama passed away? Her messages, right? You see my phone? Yeah.

You scrolling. All her messages still there. You want to know what her last message was to me? I ain't even erased yet. Hold on. Custom rail lands out. Second row, you laughing. I ain't bullshitting.

Second row at the mock funeral. Not a seat for me at the funeral. As for Sherrell, said to me, she had no contact information on me to let me know you were having a party. F*** that b*** too. -♪ BOTH LAUGHINGanother laugh. -♪ Babe, what? Oh, but my mama was hell, man. And everybody got it. There's a saying,

I don't know how many people in the chat that are from Miami, or any of my friends, there's a saying, you are really not a friend of mine. We are not really friends if you haven't been cursed out by my mama. So what I do try to do in situations like that, I try to deescalate them as much as possible. But once she got that lick in her system,

if my mama got that lick in her system, huh, it's a wrap. Yeah, I believe that. There's nothing I can do, there's nothing I can say. It's a wrap. I believe there have to be a healthy level of respect on both sides. I understand, cause you know, moms don't believe anybody

is ever gonna be good enough for their daughter. And fathers doesn't believe that anybody is ever gonna be good enough for their daughters. But there has to be a level of respect there that this is the person that I choose and whatever mistake I make, I'm gonna have to stand in it. I'm gonna have to own it. And you know, there might be a time down the road

that you say, I told you so. But if I introduce you to somebody, I don't need you to, in this situation, not withstanding, just be respectful because I'm gonna demand my partner be respectful of you because you are my mom and you are an adult, you're older than she is. And so she's gonna give you a level of respect, but in order to get respect,

you're gonna have to give respect. Yeah. And I don't wanna be, listen, every time I come around, I'm not gonna be a referee. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, that's not what I'm here for. Yeah. You know, I want my partner to be around,

to know my family, to my grandmother and my mom and my sister, my brother and family. But to come around and be, and to be, you're not gonna be disrespectful. You're not gonna call out her name. And my partner, damn, she's not gonna be disrespectful to you.

Cause at the end of the day, that's still my mom. Yeah. She gave me life. So we're gonna be respectful. I demand respect on both sides. I demand it from my mom to respect my partner, and I demand my partner respect my mom. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough, huh?

I mean, listen, I mean, your mom is a little different than my mom was. I mean, there are other people's moms, they operate different in that space when it comes to who their son might be dating. My mama don't give to you know what, and didn't care who you were. You was going to get it. Any small little situation where things don't most of the time go her way or you don't check

in. It's just weird some of the things that would trigger her. And I would do everything I can in my power to de-escalate situations the best way I can. And, you know, it was hard for me to even take my mama places with me, huh? It was hard to take her to important stuff, red carpet events, because I know what's gonna happen. I know what's gonna happen.

That's tough. And it never failed. It never failed. Even when I tried,'s gonna happen. I know what's gonna happen. That's tough. It never failed. It never failed, even when I tried. It never failed. And chat, if y'all don't know about Hurricane Paula, you can go watch it in action when we had, we did Marriage Bootcamp together. My mom and I, we did Marriage Bootcamp together,

Family Edition, where I tried to reunite and bring us a little closer together because we were always at wits end. You know, my grandma raised me, so I tried to do all I can to see if I can fix and rectify our situation as mother and son. And boy, she showed her ass. Oh. She showed her ass. She showed her ass.

She cussed everybody out. My thing is I'm never gonna curse my mom. I'm never gonna be disrespectful to my mom. I'm just gonna have a conversation with my mom and like, mom, look, I'm an adult now. I'm not the little boy. Yes, I am. I'm still your baby.

I'm the one that you gave birth to on June 26th, 1968 in Cook County Hospital. That's me. Yeah. But I'm a man now. And I'm well, I'm in my right mind. I'm old enough, I'm wise enough to make decisions. They might not be perfect.

My grandmother had just the opposite approach. My grandma was like, I ain't gotta sleep with them. If you like them, I love them. Cause I ain't gotta spend one day with them son. That was my grandma. Anytime I brought someone, I didn't bring a whole lot of people around my grandma, but she said, son, I ain't got,

you the one that got to live with them. Are you happy? And if they make you happy, you being happy makes me happy. And if my happiness is dependent on you, you being happy, son, do it. Right. But, you know, my mom, and look, my mom is,

and I get it, but I would never, I wouldn't allow my mom, I probably would've like, you know, take my partner home, my girlfriend home, and then I'm gonna come back and I'm going to have a conversation. I'm going to have a deep conversation with my mom. And I'm going to say, mom, that's disrespectful. I say, so in other words, you don't respect me.

So you don't give, you don't care about me. You don't care what I want. You don't care what I like. You don't care about my happiness. This ain't about you, mom. Right. This is not about you. And I understand. You want what's best for your child.

All parents, I ain't gonna say all, most parents want what's best for their child. If they have anything. Right. Because I'm never gonna be that parent that I prepare. Oh, you think you better than me. What parent worth anything says that to a child, you think you better than me.

Right. But I will have a conversation with my mom. Mm-hmm. That I thought that was very disrespectful. Yeah. The way you talk to her, the way you talk to me. Right. Hey, Mom, I'mma always love you,

but if you can't respect the person that I'm with, I can't come around you. Yeah. Shoot, that shit there, boy. Man, shit. I'm... You see that little speech you gave just now? Being nice about, man, you can't... I can't even come around? Man, man, but carry your black ass on there.

I'm gonna fuck you in that bit. But I wish you could have met my mama, man. I don't know how many people from the chat are there watching the show that's from the Korea that know about my old girl. Boy, she ain't play that. Boy, she ain't play that. I don't care, no matter who he is.

Everybody got it, coaches, teachers, friends, my girls, my kids. Those I have kids from, everybody got it. Everybody was fair game. It's different. It was very different. The way my grandmother approached my girlfriends or people that I was dealing with, than my mom.

Yeah. My grandma was like, you happy? Take care of the babies. Hey, cause I want them great grand, I want them great grand to be around XYZ. Alice, Mary Alice? Different ball game, huh? But the thing is that, you know, you take mom,

just because I have somebody in my life, that doesn't mean I love you any less. Just because I got a kid from this person, that doesn't mean that's gonna take any of my love from you. You my mom. You always gonna be my mom. I'm always gonna do for you. But now I have responsibilities

that I have to do for someone else also. Now I might not be able to do as much as I could do because I have other responsibilities. First and foremost, that's one thing Barney, Mary Porter raised us to do. You take care of your responsibilities and I'm gonna do that. Right. Because I created it. So anytime you create something, you take care of it. Right. Okay, mom, but I still got you. Normally when you throw that many times, what are you? You're behind. And teams will let you, hey, do that

so they don't give up anything, cheap or deep. Right, just keep them in front of us. Yes. Yeah. I mean, I just, I mean, if some of the guys and they just like, I'ma show you. I just want to know, cause Andrew Richardson said that the college was harder than the NFL.

I want to know if he still feels that way. But he said that last year before he got here. He said that this year. Oh, this year? I don't really think he meant that though. I just don't know what he's saying to him. I don't know if he meant it or not. He would just be, he would probably be in this situation.

If a girl called you ugly, oh, she ain't mean that. That ain't what she meant. She said it. Nah, if a girl, I mean, oh, she ain't mean that. That ain't what she meant. She said it. Nah, if a girl, I mean, nah, but you gotta listen. You know, a girl call you ugly, sometimes she flirting, and she really don't mean that. But you know, sometimes she say it to keep you hungry. Don't keep me hungry.

My grandma called me ugly all my life growing up. I'm gonna take your word for it, I'm done with you. Oh, ugly self, okay. I'm done with you. Oh, ugly self, okay. Hey, I ain't trying to convince nobody. Did you mean that? Cause you remember the other day you said I was ugly. Did you mean it?

Nah, you said it, I'm good. I will keep it moving. You can't take it personally. I ain't taking it personally. I ain't finna be, what I look like trying to, somebody go call me ugly and they think I'm gonna be with them?

I mean, come on. We ain't, Ocho, we grown. You do that in the fourth grade, when you in the elementary school, you got a crush on somebody, you hit them, but your ugly self, you make me sick. We grown now, we don't play no type of games. That means she really like you.

Nah, nah. Shoot, hey, I mean, you call me ugly sometimes. Was she mad at you? Yeah, exactly. When are women the most honest? When they what? When they're angry.

When they what? Thank you angry. When they what? Thank you. So probably, maybe I am, you know? Listen, I ain't the, I ain't, I'm not the, I ain't top 10 in the world. I'm not strong six and a half, especially with a haircut. If I get a haircut, oh, long as I'm, long as I'm above five, I'm straight.

Now when I ain't got no haircut and, you know, I ain't been on the waist, I'm a folk. I'm a strong folk. Yeah. I mean, look. Yeah, I mean, I guess that's what you like. I'm looking for, like you said, I'm trying to be a strong six, seven.

A seven? Yeah, I mean, you say if you want your girl, you wouldn't want your, you want your, so I mean, you say if you want your girl, you wouldn't want your, you want you so I mean you say what would you say? Rell to what? Nine, ten? A nine? Not Rell, Rell.

She probably, I give seven and a half. Hey Rell, you heard? Nah, she ain't there. Nese ain't there. Hey, listen, my dog, she, man, she about a ten. I out-kicked my car. You did? I out-kicked my car.

You did? I out-kicked my car. You did? I out-kicked my car. You did? I out-kicked my car. You did? I out-kicked my car. I out-kicked my car. Nah, she ain't there. Nisa ain't there. Hey, listen, my dog, she, man, she about to, she about to 10. I outkicked McCurvey. You did. You did.

I outkicked McCurvey. Yeah. And I, only reason, only reason she probably, listen, the only reason she with me is I won because of my personality. Okay, I can see that. That's it. That's it. I'm just being honest.

Because you know what they say, if you can make a woman laugh, you can laugh. I ain't going to say it. You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, you get up out, if you can make a woman laugh, you can laugh. I ain't gon say, you know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Quick, quick. But I look, it just depends. I mean, look, everybody, you know,

everybody there's them lookers that, you know, that's gonna get you like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. know, you got some steppers that's gonna make you do a double take, like damn. Yeah, yeah, they walk in the room and everybody here. Yeah, yeah, and then you got one, you got something, did you see her? Nah.

Listen, I mean, obviously, depending on who you are, especially as a male, sometimes you want a seven. Sometimes you want a six and a half because you take a six and a half and you get a hair, a feet and nails done. Give her a nice bang. If you get a face beat, oh, she good. And then you ain't gotta worry about everybody after.

No, Ocho. You ain't gotta worry about her hand temptation and all that. Ocho, what you're gonna realize, the moment you, you can get you a two. The moment Ocho saw somebody gonna want her because they want what Ocho got. That's how it works.

Make it see a woman walk by a thousand times. Right, right. But let somebody, boy that, bro you saw her walk by this, she been working in this office for four years. She been single. Ain't nobody, she ain't mention nothing. No flowers have never come.

No cars have never come. You've never seen her go out like, oh, I gotta go, I'm going to meet somebody for lunch or for coffee. But the moment somebody else show a little interest, I been down. Man, you know Stephanie look good. Mother.

Man, you know Stephanie look good. Mother. Man, they do that all the time, Ocho. But you know, like I said, look, I'm what I am. I got a nice personality. I can carry conversation. I'm what I am. What you see is what you get. You know, like I said, when I was growing up, Ocho,

in college and high school, you got a homeboy. Because women, a lot of times, you ain't gonna see five or six tens together because they gonna be bickering. So you go, they might be one ten, eight, seven, and they're gonna be about three or four twos and fuses. They're gonna be a couple of twos and fuses there, old joke. Now, the one thing about women, they not gonna splinter. Guys, if five or six guys go out together,

and this one, and the people say, hey, you know, hey, what you doing? Let's go get some, hey bro, check this out. I'll holler at y'all, hey, such and such, I'm going blah, blah, blah. Women don't spl it like that. So you got to have somebody that'll take for them two of the few, you got to have somebody

take one for the team. Right. So that's why my homeboy would come in and shop, I got you. But you know, my girl, you know, she ain't got nobody. He got her. I go, I'm gonna go in and break him off. I'm gonna get him about $300. So, you know, he can go ahead and do what he need to do.

Keep her occupied. Why keep this one occupied? But you not go find no five, six, seven tens together because there's too many strong personalities. And if somebody talked to one of them, oh, that'd be, he be in my deal. He be in my deal. You know, they be talking all, that's community, that's be he he will he be he be in my deal he be in my D You know, they be talking all that's uh, that's community. That's community pp. Anyway, I want it. Yeah

So it's gonna cause confusion more times than not women They have you know, one or two that look really really attractive But you know, they're gonna have they're gonna have about three or four twos and few with them now, ocho Yeah, always always always Mama say I ain't taking one for the team. Nah, I wasn't either. I ain't gonna do that to me. Man, come on, come on, Sean.

No, it ain't no come on, Sean. No way, oh, nah. Come on, bro. Don't put your boy out there like. Hey, but that happens, old Joe. But like you said, I look, I can talk, care on a conversation, I got a nice personality. Hey, hear what it is.

Hey, am I 10? No, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good what I am. I'm 56, Ocho. I move a little, I move a little slow. I got the same hair cut I had since 1972. Starting to recede a little bit, receive a little bit a little bit the top But what you see is what you get Well, I mean listen, I mean me I'm when I got a haircut

When I got a haircut and I put on some clothes, but I'm about a nine and a half I'm just gonna be honest with you I'm down about I'm about like all boy like when I really like put that shit on, but I like, I be somebody different, you know, and I walk different, you know? Yeah. And I'm not cocky. I'm convinced. Yeah.

You know, yes, it just, it is what it is. But you rarely catch me in those occasions because I always look like a bum and I always repeat the same outfits for three, four times, you know, a week occasions because I always look like a bum and I always repeat the same outfits for three, four times a week because I don't really care. I mean, Ojo, when you had a job where you dressed up every day, 240 days a year, shirt and tie, shirt and tie, 240 days out of 365.

Bro, I ain't really trying to dress up like that now. I still have to dress up. I don't have to wear a tie. I don't wear a tie that much anymore, but I still dress up two days a week, occasionally three days a week. Man, when I'm going, you know, like, that's what you wear, man, look, this is what you get.

This is what you get now. If you think you're gonna see somebody out there, some LV or some Dior, Givon, that ain't me. That ain't me. That ain't me now, hey, now them young boys, hey, they can have all that. They got it, but that ain't me. That ain't me, now, hey, now them young boys, hey, they can have all that. They got it, but that ain't me. So I'm gonna dress my age.

I ain't coming in with all that other stuff and that ain't me, Ocho. I'm perfectly good at my athleisure. Yeah, yeah, you know, every time I spring, every blue moon I was springing a little high designer. Yeah, yeah, I do a little. A little high in it. Air blue moon, air blue moon, air blue moon, I was springing a little high designer. Yeah. Yeah, I do a little something. A little high in it. Air blue moon, air blue moon, air blue moon.

Where was I at? Houston. Houston, you know Houston, I have a little designer shorts saying, oh, you know a little something. Little something. Okay, okay, okay. You know what happened in Houston. You know what happened in Houston.

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