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Emmanuel Archo recently claimed that Celtics match up better against the Knicks without
Tatum in the lineup, exclusively because of mindset.
I believe a team is a reflection of its leader.
Jason Tatum is the leader of Boston.
They are an incredibly talented team, but they're not a tough team.
This is what Kevin Durant had to say.
He responded on Twitter. Hot take artists have ruined the sport.
Football guys, no disrespect.
But y'all boys need to stay in y'all lane.
I don't know what it's like to be between them lines.
Give the man a break.
Give it is that between these lines, man, give it a break.
Dude who quit football early
to pursue media, talking mental toughness.
Cut it out.
Hey, he take,
KD taking shots.
But,
Man just look,
love it or hate it.
I don't know if he really is, but yeah.
KD gonna respond.
I ain't got no problem with it.
I ain't got no problem with it.
I like it, I wish more players would like that.
I wish more elite superstar players would like that and voice their opinion. That's why I like it. I wish more players were like that. I wish more elite superstar players were like that and voice their opinion
That's why that's why I like Twitter. I like X because it gives everybody a voice
Now it cuts it cuts the middleman out night players being able to have an opportunity
Nothing lost interpret lost nothing lost in translation. Okay, I got something for y'all. Okay, okay
That's you on you talking about. I love people having voices, but this is the my thing though
You were champion, right? Yeah, so your mind says gonna be totally different with somebody who wasn't champion, isn't that correct?
So so that's that's the problem. You got people talking about the game and and this and that but how can you?
How can somebody really define the game if you got if you never want anything and tell somebody from you telling you talking from a losing perspective.
You know, you never won, you was an individual, you, I mean, I'm not saying you were,
it's a lot of guys that was great players. That were great, but they didn't win a game.
Never won. You don't talk about, it's all about me, me, me, me. What about, you know what I'm saying,
it's like, you was a great individual,
but you wasn't a great team player.
You didn't excel your team to be a winner.
You didn't win, your team was losing.
So, if I'm hearing you correctly,
and you can correct me if I'm wrong,
you said, unless you've been a champion,
how do you tell me what it takes to become a champion?
Yeah, I'm right.
and how do you tell me what it takes to become a champion? Yeah, I'm writing.
Are you gonna have a champion monster
if you've never been a champion?
I have another question.
For people that are in the media space, right?
Yes.
Talking to Sean, obviously with what he just said,
how do you feel about people that talk about
the game of basketball, the game of football, the game of hockey and or pundits or analysts
on it or give their opinion or views on it but have never played the game?
Can you take what they could you take what they say serious if they've never
done it?
So so this is my thing.
I think they they the media is great creating these narratives and
Hold on they can listen everybody can have the opinion about the game. I'm not
This is open. It's open platform Everybody can discuss it on every level from TV to social media to whatever you want to do a podcast whatever
But my thing is this though when you when you start dissecting you really want to know the logist of what it really truly tastes
Go talk to somebody who's done it before i'm not going to come in your space and try to tell you how your job and tell
you how your job if i've never done it i've never been a reporter i'm not going to sit here and slide
into that lane but with that being said i'm not going to sit here and discredit people either
though there are some people that have but what but the narratives that the media create it becomes
a part of our thought process it become ingrained in us these stories the area by this
This is the one thing I don't think people truly understand if the it's almost like the media said they believe that bullshit
Yeah, and now it becomes a thought process whether you agree with it or don't it because a part of your thought process
And that's the first thing to come to your mind when you say something and that's the one thing that pisses me off more than anything
So like at the same time, i'm okay with people having an opinion but let let me give you something else
to think about it think about from a different perspective different side or someone who actually
did it i walked this life i walked this path i'm gonna show you what from my experience or what i
been doing and i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna pave this this this direction for you and this idea
deal for you so when you sit here and you go through
all these narratives, man,
I just, it just hurts me sometimes and pisses me off.
I just sometimes have to recuse myself
from a lot of conversations because it's not,
it's falling on deaf ears because everybody's
fucking stuck on stupid at times.
Common sense ain't coming anymore.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, there's so many levels to this shit.
You know what I'm saying?
It is.
I want to hand the baton off to me
because I agree with a lot of what you're saying.
Guys that have covered this game,
and I go particular, I say like a Tony Kornheiser
or Michael Wilbon, guys that have covered the game.
I think they understand the game,
but their intricacies, unless you've been in that huddle,
unless you've been in that locker room,
in those intense moments you couldn't possibly know.
Now see, they might go by what somebody told them,
I'm going by what I know.
See, I was in the huddle on fourth down.
I was in the huddle on third and six.
I was in the locker room when we had lost five straight
against Baltimore.
So for you to say, I think this is what, no, I'm not telling you what I think, I'm telling you what I know, because I was in the locker room when we had lost five straight against Baltimore So for you to say I think this is what no I'm not telling you what I think I'm telling you what I know
Cuz I was there. Yeah
And so while they can write it and they covered the game and they do a great job and I'm like you I don't discredit
Anybody that I've never said well you didn't play the game. You don't know what you're talking about
I'm saying from a standpoint of being in the locker room being on the field being on the court
There are certain things
that I can speak to that even in your 30, 40, 50 years
of covering a game, can't give the fans what I can,
having played the game far less than you've ever covered
the game because I've been in the huddle.
I've heard that call and I looked in guys' eyes
and I know who, you know, guys that put in what they put in
and I know guys that bulljab.
I come there, I see them all the time.
You get to spend open locker room, what?
30 minutes, five days a week.
You get to spend 30 minutes on maybe Monday, Wednesday,
Thursday, I don't think you get to come,
maybe a little bit on Friday.
That's all you get.
I get to see that guy from nine to five,
five days a week, then on the road on Saturday and Sunday
in the locker room.
You coming in after the game,
so you don't get to talk to him before the game.
So you don't know what he's thinking,
or you haven't had a conversation with him before.
And so that's why I don't discredit guys
because there are some guys that do an excellent job
and they've talked to some of the greats,
but you see, they're talking to them.
Yes.
I'm right there with them.
I'm right there in the locker room,
I'm sitting right next to him.
I'm right there in the huddle.
And so I can, I just think guys that have played the game,
now everybody that played the game, Matrix,
can't get on TV and talk about the game.
Oh no, I agree.
Explain it in a way,
explain it in a way that maybe somebody
in the media can talk about it.
Of course.
But that doesn't mean just because you can
articulate your thoughts more or better
that you know the game better
or understand the game better.
Yeah.
Hopefully that makes sense to the chat.
No, it does, it does. You know, like, my guy, you know, he's from the game better. Yeah. Hopefully that makes sense to the chat. No, it does, it does.
You know, like Mike, my guy, you know,
he's from Korea here.
So like Mike is great.
Mike been on TV for-
Yes, Mike's been doing it for 50 years.
Yeah, Mike has been on there, man.
I love Mike, you know, and,
but you said something that is so dawn on me.
Like you were experiencing somebody basically being around
somebody 24 seven and it tresses with people. It's totally a different feeling
You know, I I used to say this when it was everybody was like how the team feeling
I'm like man, you got to be in this you have to be in a locker room to see I can't I can't express what we're
Going through right now. Well, well, I can't even say it in words
It's kind of it's kind of you got to be able to feel it
You gotta see it
You gotta be sitting next to me and you gotta be feeling that heat coming from my from my teammate next to me
You know this are both sides and we just like we ain't got anything say nothing to I'm looking at my
My god, we about to go to war out here and it's like it's a whole different mindset
You know and I think it's so many different levels this guy
I think was it's so many great players that played this game in the NBA
It's a great fraternity I'm in and and I take my house to the OGs who paid away from me man
I really do I all them guys
They don't get enough credit man. They don't get enough flowers man. We'll talk about enough, and I'm just just saying cuz every year
I feel like we losing we loses some
Some icons in this game, and uh you know and I'm 47 now
I just had a birthday last week, and I'm just sitting here. I just I just gotta take my house to these guys man I think all the OGs that paid away from me man. I'm truly blessed, I just had a birthday last week and I'm just sitting here. I just gotta take my health to these guys, man.
I thank all the OGs that paid away from me, man.
I'm truly blessed to be in the position I'm in.
I don't take none of this for granted.
It's kinda like me trying to go sit into a newsroom
and try to tell them how to create a story
or write a narrative or, bro, yeah, I watched the game,
but I can't craft it like you could.
Yeah.
And so, like I said, I don't discredit anybody
because I don't think I can do, see what I,
and Ocho, you know, you and I have had this conversation.
I don't feel that I can do your job better than you.
I just feel I can do my job better than you can do your job.
Now, if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but that's how I feel.
I don't think I can do my job, do your job better feel. I don't think I can do your job better than you.
I just feel I can do my job better than you can do yours.
You deduce from that whatever you want.
But I'm not gonna discredit you from your job.
Their job, whatever the case, maybe a cashier.
Ain't no way I could be no cashier.
I be like, hey, them people, they give me a dollar,
I give them 10 back.
They come, hey, all them numbers,
hey, I ain't got time for that.
I get frustrated.
But I understand that people have a job to do.
I think it's easy to say
because they won without Jason Tatum,
they're not winning a championship without Jason Tatum.
You think that, what do you think the odds are Ocho?
They win a championship, they're gonna win
the NBA championship without JT.
I mean, shh.
So if that's not the case, they're not better without him
because the odds are they're a better team.
Do you think they would've won the championship
last year without JT?
Absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
And as a matter of fact, since you posed that question too,
based on, you know, Ocho and Kevin Durant going back and forth,
this was just one game.
What happens if they come back in this series
and they get it done without Jason Tatum?
What happens if they get to the Easton Carver,
obviously get to the Easton Carver finals
without Jason Tatum?
What happens if they do get a chip without Jason Tatum?
What does that say?
They not. Oh, you still think? What is that? They not.
Oh, you still think it's not possible?
They not.
Even with the way Jaylen Brown played in Derrick Pike?
No.
In Pritchett?
OK, OK.
Listen, I said that same thing, Ocho.
I saw her.
I was talking to my guys last night about that.
I was like, I just said, what if?
Hypothetical.
You know, ain't many teams in NBA history ever came down,
came back from a three one deficit,
but just hypotheticals, it's hypotheticals.
Yeah, so that's a hypothetical,
or just what he's going with a hypothetical.
Say for instance, they win tomorrow,
Boston wins tomorrow, they able to get back home.
Cause at the end of the day, you know, the rope,
you know, I mean, I like Knicks, I do.
Jalen Bronson is a savage out there.
He can keep on killing that closer.
But with that being said though, the supporting cast only had one game in
the series so far that they all of them scored over 20 points.
One game, so you don't know what the supporting cast gonna do.
Jalen Bronson is the head of snake over there.
And a lot of these teams are one injury away
from not doing anything, am I right?
Yeah.
Okay, so, but Boston is one team that has,
listen, they have enough to still do it.
And I'll say- Let me ask you a question.
Does everybody show up though?
So in other words, if I take Acho's reasoning
and I listen to you with if,
so if the Golden State Warriors had to win that series,
that means they're better without Steph Curry.
No. Shit.
That's different.
That's not
what I did. What? No, no. All
I did was remove the best
player off the team. The
supporting cast supporting cast
in Golden State is not even
close to what they have in
Boston. What about Jimmy Butler
play out Jimmy? You told me
play out Jimmy. He's taking
two. He's taking the team two
teams to the NBA Finals. Yes,
he had. He hadn't had. I'm just saying. I'm just I'm just throwing it out there. He's taking two he's taking a team two teams to the NBA finals and he hadn't had
I'm just saying I'm just I'm just throwing it out that we just having healthy conversation now
since we doing what ifs. Yeah but no but they're done now so they're done but but go look at the
roster though so go go go Boston starting those go roster right now top seven players there so
five we did that well top five now because take them is out now so
they're their current roster right now look at their lineup though tell me what you think about
their line compared to area box lineup if they're doing what they're supposed to do without jason
tatum their their best six players aren't better than the mixed best six players you don't think so? Hell no. With Brunson, Cat, Bridges, Hart, who's the other guy?
OG?
I love Nick.
I love Nick.
You got Mitchell Robinson and McBride.
So if I take the Knicks seven best players,
minus Tatum, so the Knicks seven best players,
and you give me the Celtics seven best players,
minus Tatum, I'll take the next.
Okay.
You don't see I mean KKP ain't showed up yet in this playoffs yet.
He ain't gonna show up.
So stop looking for it.
He's 73 and invisible.
So I see I'm just a firm believer.
I just saw these guys have all you got all you got two.
You got two guys where you got three all star pedigree guys on Boston Celtics.
They've been either former All-Star or not.
You know what I'm saying?
You only only current All-Star on the team is Jaylen Brunson right now.
But but Derek White could have easily been what about what about cat?
No, hold on cat cat was also.
But they got to us.
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but All-Star Pedigree does play and have some leverage.
Well, hell, Matrix, hell, I was a 12th grader.
Long time, what, former, I was a former 12th grader, Ocho.
What the hell?
It ain't over till it's over, Ocho.
Yeah, you right, you right.
It ain't over till it's over.
But remember, this is all hypothetical, but anything is possible. It ain't over till it's over, Yeah, you're right. It ain't over. But remember this is all hypothetical,
but anything is possible.
It ain't over.
You know that.
Yeah, we do that a lot though.
We do that a lot.
We see a guy in football go down where they're better team
without him.
No, they're not.
No, hell, they're not.
I mean, but somebody might they want to game one time where
they want to game without Chase.
What I mean, they're better team. What? You know, I wanted to gain one time. What they want to gain without Chase. Would that mean they're better team?
What?
You know, I wonder, you talk about, hello.
Jason Tatum is about to make his fourth consecutive
all NBA team.
You mean to tell me a team is better without an all,
a first team, all NBA selection?
Makes you question it though, and Sean,
you look at the way they play without him
in that one game.
The question is though, and Sean, you look at the way they play without him in that one game.
It raises the question and the possibility
of them actually being better without him
because of the way they played.
What happens, Ocho, what happens
when the original teacher's not, we get a substitute,
where it's not the same.
So now you do things differently. I believe the Knicks let
their guard down. The Knicks like, well, they ain't got JT, they ain't gonna be ready to play.
And they underestimated them. I bet they don't make that same mistake. I bet they don't make
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Well, I hope not, you know what I'm saying?
But you know, listen, man, when you're out here, man, we can't, one of the things I learned
a long time ago, you know this, the one thing you can control is what your effort you can control the ball going to hope not so you don't listen.
You can't control you can't control it going to hoop. So like hey man listen man people feel that pressure and listen that I know garden gonna be rocking them all you know saying yeah I'm saying? Yeah. I kind of wish I was in that.
I ain't never been to a playoff game in New York.
I would love to be there, but I-
Hey, hey, but hold on.
Did, did, did Acho did not see the three games
they lost with Jason Tatum?
So you better without him,
but you lost three games with him.
I mean, he had 42.
They was up 20 points in every game.
Listen, they're not what they are without Jason Tatum.
He's one of the best players in the NBA.
Oh, by far, easily.
That's not a question.
It's hard.
You can, let's just say he's a top 10 player.
How is a team better without a top 10 player?
Okay.
You go in a game, see, and I think the thing is,
sometimes what happens, Matrix and Ocho, is that a team will win a game or two without their best player
and people start to believe well hey we can get rid of him and we can get
something back no you can't don't do that. Well no no we so home okay now
no you I'm not gonna do with that I'm gonna tell you something now so like put
this way if Jaylin so Jaylin Brown was out and Jason 10 was playing right now and they did the same thing
Would you would you be still saying the same thing?
No, because I think they need both of them because when they when Kevin Iran became available
They offered Jaylin Brown and Derek whites some draft picks for Kevin Durant. They didn't offer Jason Tatum
Yeah, but I mean listen Katie my god, you know saying but like I'm just saying because
right now
Jalen Brown took over the role that Tatum does do you not in his last?
so
So he became the main main facilitator and did a great job at it. He never gets like he was dodo
Okay, okay.
Did you see the way he been playing it?
Have you seen the way he been playing it?
So look, so Jason Tatum last year
was dedicated to point guard per se.
That's what they said last year.
They let him meet a main ball handler.
So when you watch them play,
they go, a lot of times they go tit for tat.
They go, Jason Tatum come down and shoot,
then Jason Brown come down and shoot at times. go tit for tat. They go, they come down and shoot, then Jayden Brown come down and shoot it time.
Yeah.
That's all right.
But now you don't have to go tit for tat.
Now you got him designated as that spot right now.
Listen, I'm just telling you, there ain't over to his overweight.
I'm not saying they can.
Listen, I would love to see New York's go do what they can.
I wanted to go seven myself.
I did too.
I wanted all of you to go to seven. I wanted to go
seven. I want to go seven. You
know me honestly. Hey, this is
a great basketball. You know
what I'm saying? So but at the
end of the day, anything is
possible. I don't put nothing.
We I just I said it's all
hypothetical though. Remember
we just talked about but it's
hard to come back from a three
one deficit though but the
first two games though,
honestly, they could have
easily won though. They **** them **** off. They they fucked them shits off so we sit here and
we keep acting like you know saying Boston is one of the things that Boston
had and it was the reason they was able to prevail last year that most people
don't they have seven 3andd guys they got one went down with injury last game
they still got those six three and eight guys. A lot of teams don't have three and D guys. Yeah. Everybody's starting to switch everything now. Yeah. So
that's what I'm saying though. So like it's not over. It's over. You just don't know.
Maybe KP is due for a big game tomorrow. Oh Joe, a fan pointed out the coach social media account
has only posted thrills of Daniel
Jones and none of Anthony Richardson.
Have the Coats already decided they're going with Daniel Jones?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
I doubt it.
I doubt it.
Obviously when it comes to a quarterback competition between Anthony Richardson and Daniel Jones,
I think that's one that Anthony Richardson would win.
Obviously right now what they're doing right now,
I don't think it's a testament to who would be the starter,
even if there is a quarterback competition.
I really think that Anthony Richardson would win that out,
obviously having the edge, knowing the offense.
Man, you ain't paying no guy no $14 million
to sit on the bench.
What other backup quarterback you know making 14 million?
Okay, so you think they... Or the 31 other teams. You think I'm throwing them in there, huh? on $14 million to sit on the bench. What other backup quarterback you know making 14 million?
So you think they...
Or the 31 other teams.
You think I'm gonna throw them in there, huh?
Based on?
No, I'm just saying, I think there's a quarterback,
I think there's a quarterback competition.
You said you don't think there's a quarterback competition.
I think there's a quarterback competition.
Or why is it when they get that man 14 million?
I think one thing, Anthony Rich is at a head start
on that quarterback competition
because he knows the offense
Yes, I know the offense so if you will if you allow him to beat you out I think it's more politics because they're paying Daniel Jones 14 14 goddamn million and I think they'll just get it
Bro, I took you number three overall. I
Put I put 3838 million in your
pocket guaranteed. I guaranteed
your whole damn contract. What
you mean? It's politics. It's
politics that Anthony Richardson
hadn't gotten better in the
things that he was doing wasn't
conducive for you being a
starting quarterback and being
good. Daniel Jones is the
answer because we saw him in
New York. What's the question?
What's the question? You said Daniel Jones the answer. I need to know's the question?
You said Daniel Jones. I need
to know what the question did
he go to do? Yes, his name
Daniel Jones. Yes.
You can't just say do I think
Daniel Jones? I'm running down
everything you said. I'm just
running down everything you
said. The answer anything
Anthony Richardson didn't do the thing. Well, well hell, what you think gonna happen
when God damn Daniel Jones there?
It's gonna be, all of a sudden he gonna go
from what he was last year and all of a sudden just be,
be what Tom Brady this year?
No, absolutely not.
No, I think the thing is, but what does that say?
Daniel Jones is who he is.
In your third year, did they bring another receiver in
and they have him compete with you? Oh no, because by the time I hit my second year, did they bring another receiver in and to have them compete with
you?
Oh no, because by the time I hit my second year, I had arrived.
Okay, thank you.
That's all I need to say there.
That was not only the Coase gaff they've made in the last 24 hours.
The Coase ended up deleting their schedule release video that is done by Minecraft Style
and included a dolphin wearing a 10 Tyreke Hill jersey being pulled over by the Coast
Guard.
Remember what happened over the day?
And an apology, the Coast said,
we've removed our schedule release video
because it exceeded our rights with Microsoft
and included an insensitive clip
involving Dolphin's receiver Tyreke Hill.
We sincerely apologize to Microsoft and Tyreke.
That wasn't fucking insensitive.
Tyreke ain't one of them goddamn, oh my God, why did you do that?
He loved it and he tweeted it.
He said, you should have left it up at Colts.
That was funny.
It was funny.
It was.
I mean, people have to understand
when you make jokes about certain individuals,
you have to know who you're doing it to.
Someone like Tyreek is going to laugh at that.
He's not one of those overly sensitive people.
And obviously I'm assuming that people at the Colts
don't know it and maybe other people
will get upset for Tyreek.
Tyreek wouldn't care.
It was funny.
Hey, damn Tyreek, Microsoft.
They tie your ass up with rights.
Now they got more money than their whole NFL.
All the NFL.
You don't wanna be messing with them, Ocho.
There's certain things you can do like,
oh, I don't even care.
And there's certain things,
when it comes to big companies like this,
they're sitting on three, four, five, 600,
a billion dollars in cash.
Don't fool with them, Ocho, it ain't even worth it.
Take it down, I'm sorry.
Okay, I see what you mean.
Just, Ocho, you just apologize and keep it moving. Yeah. And keep it down. I'm sorry. Okay, I see what you mean. Just, hey, Ocho, you just apologize and keep it moving.
Yeah. And keep it moving.
Hey, some of the schedule releases and the creativity from some of the teams, I really enjoyed.
I really enjoyed it.
And that, Ocho, this is why we have to be super, super cautious.
I told Ash, we're not showing another video.
We make sure, we ask, can we show this on our platform?
Make sure we get it and then we gonna screenshot it
because the last thing we want somebody to do is say,
yeah, you can do it and then erase it.
And we ain't got no, we ain't give them no permission.
Nah, you screenshot that Ash.
Now that got our ass burnt.
We had a 90 day, you know, we in in in
hell and then the dude took all
the all the money that the
revenue that we want that got
that we got from the video.
That's right. The whole episode
he didn't ran through that.
Now, he ain't got no more of
that left. Oh Joe, you remember
the guy that DM'd you last
week, right? Oh yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You remember the guy that DM'd you last week, right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
He got upset.
Like bro, you gave us permission to show it.
Oh, I sent an ass a message and I,
you know, I was the man at whatever.
Cause I, it was the issue.
I was like, well, if it was the issue, I mean, man,
where you at?
What's your location?
So you could tell me what you're talking about in person.
I asked three times, you know, I mean, you feel like, listen, I, I didn't say
anything bad, huh?
I ain't say anything bad.
I just, that's a long time.
But I'm trying to get, you know, he's from Miami, you from Miami.
He took, he took it, he took it away, but you know, I was like, bro, so you
just bypass what I said.
So you only heard what Ocho said.
I didn't say nothing bad.
I just said that takes too long for me.
I like to get in and out, you know?
In and out, that's all.
But he missed the point where I said,
before you said that, Ocho, I said, man,
yeah, that's $300, easy.
For the haircut, the facial, the shave, the trim,
yeah, that's $300.
So he bypassed it, but again, Ocho,
we talked about that, remember?
The way we're wired, we only hear the negative.
He bypassed the positive and I went longer
with the positive than you did saying that it take too long.
I went way longer, but that's what he heard.
But with my man, you're doing a great job,
you provided a great service.
I'm gonna go get the service, I'm gonna go get it.
You ain't got no damn haircut, yours only 150. I'm gonna go get the service. I'm gonna go get it. You ain't got no damn haircut.
Yours only 150.
I'm gonna get him a three.
Matter of fact, yeah, I'm gonna get him a three hundred.
Well, let him shave your head with that straight razor.
No, cause I get bumps.
I get bumps.
I'm gonna get it.
That thing look like a Nessie Crunch.
It would.
Hey, I don't know where it's at.
I'm gonna have to ask the patient.
I'm going to get that treatment.
I'm a recorder too. Yeah. Man, we had to know where it's at. I'm going to have to ask the patient. I'm going to get that treatment. I'm a recorder too.
Yeah.
Man, we had to do it on our team.
I ain't going to call it Dave.
He shaved with one of them disposable razors.
Oh, no.
Under here, it got.
Man, it looked like he stuck his face in an ant be.
Ah.
No.
Hey, we called it bump, Dave.
It took me one time.
It took me one time to do it. I forgot, I call it bump day. It took me one time. It took me one time to do it.
I forgot, I think it was 2007.
The barber, I was in a rush.
So he said, well, let me use this on you.
And he used the electric.
Oh, the electric.
Oh my God.
What?
It took about two days.
Man, all this up under here, man,
looked like a damn Nestle crunch.
Never again, it took forever to go away.
Hey, I don't do that.
Nah, I do shave with a razor.
I put that blue steel on my face.
Yeah, I'm scared of that.
But that right there?
Oh no.
Oh no, man.
Man, you be busting black hair for months.
busting black ass for months. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe hehehe he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he Five and a half spread during timeout after he filed out.
Dreymon, Dreymon just need to chill. Dreymon, you know, everybody loves Dreymon,
you know, he come out, everybody after him,
he go, Dreymon, you do something every time.
They ain't calling you this because you Dreymon.
You do something.
They really give you a break, Dreymon,
and you see a holler and cuss officials.
I vowed official Draymond would be out of the game
by the third time down the court.
He'll be out of the game.
But oh, you know he do that.
They trying to get, let the people get.
Oh, you know he does that because he know once he gets one,
they're gonna be very reluctant to give him
that second take and throw him out of the game
because they don't want to influence the game.
Right.
Hey, I wouldn't be worried about influence of the game.
I mean, I ain't gonna let somebody
cuss me out average six, seven points a game.
I mean, Dre might gotta get a triple double.
He gotta get a triple double.
I know he said he feels good about this team,
Butler coming, make his last playoff run with Curry.
But the Curry got hurt, the team just seemed like just,
they didn't have no more juice.
You know, they played to a limit,
but sooner or later you need talent.
You gotta have talent on the floor to win.
Dre Mon has been fined $992,000 in his career
with 185,000 coming for action towards official.
He's also been docked 3.2 million for suspensions.
So he's lost over $4 million.
Over $4 million.
Yeah.
And well.
I don't like to curse that much.
I don't like to be right that much, Ocho.
Oh God, I don't know about you, Ocho,
but hey, that was a good call.
That was a good call, Ralph, good call.
You know what, when you make that kind of money,
it's like you ain't even paying no mind, honestly. Oh, you was a good call. That was a good call, Ralph. Good call. You know what, when you make that kind of money, it's like you ain't even paying it no mind, honestly.
Oh, you paid it some mind.
Yeah.
I know, I mean, you've got to think about it.
If you would have added up my fines, right?
I know the times were different.
The times were different.
Now you got to think, for 11 years straight,
I got fined every season for 11 years straight,
to the point where I put money aside
because I know I'm finna cut up anyway.
But saying how much you get fined,
those are different.
You might get fined 30,000 a year, 100,000 a year.
What if they fined you a quarter of a million every year?
Hold on, hold on, hold on, Oak, you gotta think, right?
My first offense during the season,
it starts at 5,000, right?
It's, I'm saying how much was the average this year?
About 40, 50,000.
No, no, no, no, because by the time I got to about week 10 and I was doing average of the year? About $40, $50? No, no, no.
Because by the time I got to about week 10
and I was doing stuff, at that point
it was $30,000 to $40,000 to $50,000.
So you think you got to find a quarter?
OK, at that point, I ain't even care.
I'm having fun.
You think you got fined a quarter of a million dollars
a year?
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
You think you got fined that much?
Absolutely.
OK.
Let me tell you something. Remember when I tweeted on the sideline in 2009?
That was 30 grand right there.
Remember when in September, I put on a poncho, like a real poncho on the Sombrero in September.
They took 50 for that.
And you got to think I kept doing stuff week in and week out.
The orange chin strap, the black chin strap, the road wearing gold shoes.
I didn't care.
I just, and when you add it all up
by the end of the season,
I didn't care because I was making it up.
You was making money
so you really didn't pay attention to it.
That's what happens sometimes.
Could be having a dream on it.
But I got found a lot of money.
I probably got found about five, five, four, five million.
You got five too?
My whole career.
Damn, bro. But oh, you? My whole career. Damn, bro.
But oh, you played 18 years, 19 years.
Damn.
Well, mine was more like suspension.
Fighting.
You know, hit a couple people in the head before the game.
Oh, you got that Tesla with him?
Man, hey, one, two, that's it.
OK.
No, ask Barclay about it.
Hey, you got it with Tyrone Hill.
With Tyrone Hill, that's what,
how many games you got suspended for?
That was at a pick up game.
That was in the summertime.
You were fighting at the pick up game?
You were fighting at the pick up game?
Yeah.
Nah, who did you?
He tried to walk up on me.
What you say, Shannon?
Who you got to fight with?
Hello, you slapped somebody,
you went to their shoot around.
Oh, that was what's the name?
The Clippers.
Ty Lawson.
McGinnis.
McGinnis.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, you knew that the word was gonna get back to Stern
that you had did something,
and he was gonna put the,
he's gonna drop the hammer.
Why you do that?
They weren't about that he threatened me, man.
That I bet.
They was.
Hey, and I told him, I went in they practice,
the whole team, everybody,
the whole coaches, everybody was there.
Oh, they might've jumped you, man. No, they weren't going to do that.
I told Lamar, all of them, he said, that's my friend.
I said, well, you should probably be helping your friend.
He didn't help him.
No, they know better.
Hey, oh, you was the original D-bo, man.
Well, I mean, when somebody threatened you,
my brother would told me, don't wait for them, go to them.
I mean, but actually in a basketball setting,
words are just words.
They really don't mean that outside of the court.
They just saying it because on the court,
it's a safe place.
So they ain't really, they don't mean it.
No, no.
Hey, Chad, there's one thing,
I don't play on the court and I don't play off the court.
He don't.
So, I mean, hey.
You wanna play?
Nope.
What you see is what you get out the court
in 30 plus years.
He is exactly what he said.
Believe me, if he say he gonna slap the inch at you,
if he get close to you, he gonna slap you.
I like it, I like it, I like it.
No, oh, oh.
But now he's all good.
Who that you lend money to?
Who that you lend money to in the card game
and he didn't pay you back?
Tyrone Hill. Yeah.
Tyrone Hill.
That happened at a game too.
He paid you back, he paid you back yet?
Well, he was trying not to,
but he said he was going through a divorce
and then he says, wife, or something happened, this and that.
I'm like, huh?
I said, I ain't gonna lend it to your wife.
So I got it right before the playoff though.
Look at that.
Bad old, bad old you was wild with that one.
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Oh, tell us about the cooking, bitches. How did you learn how to cook?
Man, I learned, basically, you know, my family's big time cooking, grandparents, mother, aunts and sisters.
But my thing is my rookie year, you know,
I had some, you know, some skills already,
but traveling a lot, this and that,
going in at the hotel, you know,
my rookie year basically had a lot of bets on the team.
But, you know, I just like going to these restaurants,
I just got tired of it.
It's just doing the little things, you know,
you eat the burgers, the spaghetti,
steak, potatoes, little pasta,
and you know, the breakfast food.
So I just started adding on to, adding on to it.
But as I got good and good,
all the guys on the team started coming over to eat.
You know, I thought, you know, making the team thing,
bringing everybody together, you know, and all that.
And I just fell in love with it.
And it's relaxed me.
I saw you cook for Jay-Z, you cook for Jordan,
you cook for Oprah.
What did you cook for Hov?
So basically it was that MJ 40 birthday party in DC.
And I was, you know, like I said, Jay-Z,
we was playing cards, Beyonce, everybody, Bob Johnson.
I mean, it was a lot of people.
So it was his birthday party.
We got snowed in at the Ritz.
And so at the Ritz in Washington,
they got two tiles, the North and South tile.
So I was in the condo, MJ was in the rooftop.
So we ended up having a party after his birthday
and basically cooked two days in a row.
I mean, I just went to the store. We just got a lot of food and you know,
they just had a good time, but I do a lot of things like that invites.
I give guys my, uh, my likings to, you know,
put it on a charity and auction me off and they bid on me.
Matter of fact, I got one in a circuit in New York in about two weeks going cook
for like 50 people. Basically I can do that by myself,
but it's just something others love to do.
And I really like to see a smile on people's face.
And everybody said, well, you know, this and that,
cause I'm picky, you know what I mean.
I send something back.
You have your will.
So my thing with me is I know, I put my heart and soul in,
I don't want somebody sending my food back to me.
So I'm gonna make you it right.
What's your favorite thing to cook, Oak? Oh man, I tell everybody it's me, but I don't want somebody to send them my food back to me. So I'm gonna make you a right. What's your favorite thing to cook, Oak?
Oh man, I tell everybody it's me, but I don't know.
I try to cook what you like.
I'm good.
I'm like the alphabet, A to Z, all 26.
I can do 26 different things.
And you know how dope that is, Unc?
They had that in your toolbox.
You know how to cook?
Man, that's, I think one of the greatest things
you ever have in your toolbox as a man.
If you have money, if you don't have money,
but if you can cook, oh, and you can play instrument.
If you can cook and play instrument,
and if you got, and you wanna add the cherry on top,
know how to sing as well.
If you can play.
I can't do none of that.
I can't sing.
I can, hey, chat, I can play spades and be with this. Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking. you can do that. If you can do
you went to a black college. If you can't play spades and if you can't jones,
you in, boy, you in trouble.
You in trouble.
And that, hey, I'm a spadeologist.
So I'm the highest ranking, like you know,
you got the grand master in chess.
Okay.
We go out there and say, we're gonna have to get together.
You bring up partner, I bring up partner.
Okay, we can do that.
We already got that.
Next time you land up, we gonna' Hey, I'll tell you.
Let me see, how you, do you play big joker,
little joker, how you play?
I can play big joker, little joker,
I know joker, just ace king.
I don't mess with deuces.
Okay, good, okay, see now, you know people play
deuces down, but deuces play big joker, little joker.
Man, I don't, but they talk about deuces,
I tell them I ain't playing.
I don't wanna play with no deuces. You got two big, you got big joker, little joker. Man, when they talk about deuces, I tell them I ain't playing. I don't wanna play with no deuces.
You got two bigs, you got big joker, little joker,
then you got two deuces, nah, nah, nah.
Okay, okay, we play big joker, little joker, ace, baby.
Big joker, little joker, ace, king.
Yeah, some people don't play no joker.
Yeah, I don't like play like that, nah.
Hey, I got the team, I got the team, huh?
Who? Me and you, sp. I ain't playing that. I got the team, I got the team. Who?
Me and you, spades game against Oak and Jordan.
You don't know how to play, Ocho.
I know how to play spade, what you talking about?
I'm a spadeologist too.
Hey yeah, that'd be a good one.
Hey, hey, hey, whatever y'all.
Hey, that'd be a real good one.
Absolutely, whatever y'all wanna bet too.
Tell Jordan to put it on the stick, that'd be a real good. Absolutely.
Whatever y'all want to bet too.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Oh, do you really know how to play?
Hey, you might say the wrong
things that we want to do.
Hell no. We're playing for fun.
No, no, no, no, no, no. We don't do
nothing for fun. We don't do
nothing. Yes, I do. No, no, no.
No. Hey, Chad, you can play, huh?
That's good, you can play.
I'm out the city of Miami, boy.
I grew up playing spades, boy.
I know, y'all play dominoes down there.
Hey, now, hey, boy, now you talking.
Now, see, I don't play no talking.
Hey, oh, oh, y'all still play truck?
Every now and then, that was the thing
we played on the plane back in the rookie days.
Guts.
People don't play trunk no more.
They played poker and they, big whiz.
Oh, God damn it.
I love to play spades too.
We used to play in between too.
Y'all play in between?
What's that?
Oh, yeah, nah, the basketball player.
I played with a lot of football players.
They love that in between.
And they love guts. Look, I'm in between. And they love Guts.
Look, I'm just telling A.
Guts.
And Bure.
Bure.
Now we don't play too much Bure.
Football guys go all the time.
I know all the football guys.
I used to, Drew Hill, that was Drew Hill first.
They was saying, Drew Hill.
RIP, Drew Hill, he was the man.
So what's on the cooking journey?
You got, because you were on a cooking show,
so are you looking to do another reality show
about you, evolve you cooking?
Yeah, you know what?
You know my book is out, The Last Enforcer.
So I put my cooking book on hold,
but I'm gonna come out with that this year.
So you know, I was on chops.
I've been on a lot of different cooking shows.
I did like, when I was in Toronto,
I did like three or four shows.
So this year I'm gonna speed things back up
because you know, my wife, we on the Atlanta Housewife,
you know, I don't know, it is what it is.
So we gonna finish that up
and we gonna move on to the next thing
and I'm gonna get my cookbook out
and we're gonna try to do some other stuff.
All right, we gonna get you out of here on this one.
If the Knicks make the NBA Finals, are you going to a game?
I'm going to a game according to who they playing on the road.
I mean, right now I've been banned from know, I've been banned from the garden.
So I don't want to, I got jumped on twice.
I don't want to get beat up again.
So sometimes they take you longer, less than twice.
So, Hey, man, do I need to put a call in the door
and say, look here, man, man, that's Oak.
He a fan favorite, he a crowd favorite,
he a New York favorite.
You got to have Oak in the building.
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you wanna see what happened,
I've been trying to get things situated with him.
He just one of them guys, you know.
I call him Trump nephew.
Well damn, Oakey, you ain't helping.
I tried to get you in, you're trying to stay out.
Why not?
I ain't call him Danny nephew.
Damn, Oakey. Man. I'm Oakey. I'm trying to get you in. I ain't I ain't call him
didn't that.
I'm trying to I'm trying to get
you in and you try to stay out
I.
May sometime hey I am used to
the cold so I got a jacket all
right.
Oh last question give me your
Mount Rushmore power for the
power for give me your four
guys that you're gonna your Mount Rushmore power forwards. The power forward. Give me your
four guys that you're gonna put
on Mount Rushmore. So, it's a
power forward. Well, I'll say,
okay, so I'm gonna go with um
I'm gonna give you five. God
damn. I'm gonna give you
four heads. Okay, four. I mean, I'm, you know, okay, I'm going to give you
like the guy from Auburn, he weighed about four and a
pound. He's a third. Oh,
Charles. Oh, yeah. And then,
I'm gonna, I'm gonna give it,
I'm gonna give it, I'm gonna
stay old school. I'm gonna
give it to the Shea Wilders
crazy. Hold on. How you lead
Tim Duncan off? You Tim Duncan
is the center. Tim forward. Okay, well,
I'm so I'm going to start over
then. I'm going to go Tim
Duncan, Kevin Kale, Charles
Barclay, Carl Malone. I like
it. I'm leaving. She's she's
they're you know, Yanni's them
guys, you know, I think all of
them guys are saying if if so, if you had a team, who you want? You probably, I know y'all probably gonna take Yannis.
Yannis, uh, Shee Wallace.
No, my first, my first, if I power forward, I'm talking.
No, Yannis or Shee Wallace.
Huh?
Yannis or Shee Wallace.
Oh, it was Shee?
Yeah.
Ooh.
I don't know, I'm taking Shee.
I take Yannis.
Shee? She she should have
been the best power forever.
Yeah. Shoot the three. Miss
brain post what Yonis don't
do nothing better than him but
dribble the ball off the court
finish. No, you don't think I
finished down. He's playing
against all the little kids on
the floor. That's why I play
against who he played against
Oak. Man, I know he would have been back in the eighties that's why. He gotta play against who he play against, Oak.
Man, I know.
He would have been back in the eighties and nineties.
Like I told somebody, he probably been on the bench
because the game made free throws
and couldn't shoot a jumper.
My jumper better than his.
My free throw is better than his.
He's just a better athlete.
Y'all would have roughed him up though.
He wouldn't have game in there.
He game way a he won the
favor, right? Listen, during the NBA playoffs
and during NBA season in general,
I have a hit list of players that I've challenged,
that I have to play when we have some time.
Joe Johnson, who else, who else?
Antoine Walker.
Kenyamaran Antoine Walker, Iso Joe,
or I already said Iso Joe, who else we got? Who else on my hit list, huh? What y'all doing, though? I'm playing one on one. Kenyon Martin, Antoine Walker,
Iso Joe, I already said Iso Joe.
Who else we got?
Who else on my hit list?
What y'all doing though?
I'm playing one on one.
Everybody one on one, right?
So, I need you to do me a small
favor.
I need you to tell Jordan I need
to get a one on one with him.
Yeah, right now.
I don't want no excuses. I don't want to hear nothing. We can go to 11. I spot him fire right now.
Oh, yeah, I'm like, I'm you see me play you understand why I said that.
I can't count your game. I'm just saying he stayed by the for the moment. So, you know, he got a couple of shoes.
When I do go though, you will get you in the lab and you'll get a five?
And he get the ball first.
I'm one of them.
I'm one of them.
You might not see it no more.
At least I give you the ball first.
No, no, no.
Listen, I'm a gentleman.
I respect my elders.
Okay, well he's the oldest, so I understand that.
They always tell me, if somebody owes you in the group,
you gotta respect.
When they're young, they gotta respect me.
That's how that goes.
All right, though, hey, when I'm in Atlanta,
I'm gonna hit you up, man.
Let's go grab a bite.
All right, and we gonna play that space, too.
Okay.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Hold on, hold on.
What's the money line?
We'll be back.
I don't know.
I don't know, thousand a game.
That's easy.
I'm just saying, you know, start off.
You know, they said when you buy in at purple,
you buy in again.
So we start off and go up.
So hold on.
We gonna play more than one game.
We gonna hang go longer.
What about this?
So what we going to, what we going to, 300 or 500?
300.
Good, cool enough bet.
And 500, you just want to hold hands. Hey, let me ask you this. Hold on
We don't want a whole hand sandbag sandbagging you go over
Uh, well, we just play all right if you ain't trying if you sandbag if you sandbag you ain't trying to get 300
Don't worry about my hand. You bet your hand. Don't worry about it. You sandbagging you bet your head. Don't worry about it
I don't care. I like sandbagging. I mean you ain't trying to win you sandbagging. I'm trying to set you don't worry about them coming, you sandbagging. You bet your head, don't worry about what I do. I don't care, I like the sandbagging.
I mean, you ain't trying to win, you sandbagging.
No, I'm trying to set you.
Don't worry about what I do.
Oh, you play two sets and then over?
No, that's what I'm asking.
Do you play like that?
No, I don't play, I play whatever.
I don't think I play, first hand,
you get 10, that's 200.
Yeah.
Automatic win. Yeah, for sure.
Automatic win. I don't play no's 200. Yeah. Automatic win. Yeah, for sure.
Automatic win.
I don't play no blinds.
No.
Hey, hey.
Okay.
Some people play blinds.
I'm gonna run a Boston off the muscle.
All right, well.
I'm gonna run a Boston.
Hey, hey, hey, I can already tell we already won.
We already won.
We got this one.
We got this one, Ojo, we got him.
All right, I can't wait.
Hey, O.
I can't wait.
All right.
Hey, stop, David's talking about O. I'll holler at you. All right.. Hey, Oak. I can't wait. All right. Baby, what's up about Oak?
I'll holler at you.
All right.
All right, Chad.
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