Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Best of the Rest Part 1: Shedeur Pissed at Giants Pre-Draft Interview + Draymond Green Fires at Dillon Brooks

Episode Date: May 10, 2025

Recap the best clips of the week as Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Shedeur Sanders reportedly being pissed at the New York Giants pre-draft interview, Warriors star D...raymond Green calling out Rockets forward Dillon Brooks, and much more!01:38 - Draymond calls out Brooks for not shaking his hand08:41 - JPP had $400k watch stolen12:30 - Marlon Humphrey on breakfast food15:25 - 100 americans vs 100 british people18:34 - Shedeur supposedly pissed at the Giants30:51 - Ravens rookie kicker33:45 - Most Toxic Fan Bases in College Football(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to an iHeart podcast. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of 2B. We dive into the competitive world of streaming. What others dismiss as niche, we embrace as core. There's so many stories out there, and if you can find a way to curate and help the right person discover the right content, the term that we always hear from our audience is that they feel seen.
Starting point is 00:00:36 Listen to Good Company on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The volume. Draymond Green calls out Dylan Brooks for not shaking anyone's hand after the game. Draymond labels him a sucker. It says, nobody respects him. Ryan, that's your guy. You call, you'll rock his game. Dre Mon labels him a sucker. It says nobody respects him. Ryan, that's your guy. You call, you'll rock his game. You gotta defend his action.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Yeah, I love Dillon Brooks. Dillon's gonna do what he wants to do. And at the end of the day, when these two personalities collided, I don't think we would have expected anything less with Dillon Brooks and Dre Mon. And the unique part about Dre, by the shout out to Dray, by the way, I, you know, I like you later.
Starting point is 00:01:30 I didn't like you a couple of days ago is that and I'm still sore over that game. Seven is he is able to play the game and then pop on his podcast the next day and talk his crash. You don't got to wait for the media. You don't got to do it in the press. You have to come to him. And he's not relying on scoring. So he can back it up with his defense.
Starting point is 00:01:51 He can back it up with his defense. He can back up with his IQ. Draymond, I played against you. I know your brother. All the flails and all the stuff. They're calculated. They're smart. When his team needs something, he brings it to the table. Tonight, he had three or four three pointers as soon as Steph Curry stepped
Starting point is 00:02:06 on the floor from a point total. So back to him and Dylan Brooks. Dylan has been unbelievable for Houston, Houston's culture, what he brings to the table. It's a toughness and energy. And he's a villain. He plays that role. And you know what? Dremont going to defend Steph. He said what he said about Steph and the presser,
Starting point is 00:02:27 that's who Dillon Brooks is and we love him and embrace him. And again, with those two personalities, I expect nothing less. Oh yeah. I agree. They're kinda alike really. I mean, obviously Dreymon is more accomplished. He's asking to do more.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And Dreymon, they're playing with Steph. Steph is the most likable person on the planet, man. He the most likable on the planet. It's hard to dislike him. Because you know why, Ryan, I think everybody likes him? Because he's the common man. You can see like, man, he ain't 6'9", he ain't seven foot. He ain't got shoulders like Dwight Howard.
Starting point is 00:03:00 He's just like a common man. Most guys, LeBron is 6'9", most of the guys are hawking. 100%. And so I can't be him. Man, I can, Steph Curry look like a guy walking down the street. And he's so likable. You see, you saw him, you saw his daughter,
Starting point is 00:03:18 she was on his lap, Riley, we fell in love with Riley. You know, Aisha, they do a great job, we got kids, you know, everything. So it's just hard to dislike it. You're like, man, I don't like, nah, I like Golden State, I just don't like Draymond. I'm saying that's how people look at it. Man, I love Golden State.
Starting point is 00:03:35 If they didn't have Draymond, I really like him. But I'm not so sure if they didn't have Draymond, they could be Golden State that we know of today. Ain't no way, ain't no way. Oh, he's so smart. Listen, I think it was game two. And it was game two, a game one. And our guys were going on the run.
Starting point is 00:03:54 All of a sudden, man, he just somebody to the floor. Oh, God, you know, we're building energy. The game had a flow. He just messed the flow up, dog. Like, but he knows. He listen, and they're baiting them on the internet because they realize this is the craziest thing I've ever seen in a contest.
Starting point is 00:04:16 Draymond does, forget what he does. He gets a technical file right, boop boop tech. So now we're up there calling the game. We're going, he gets one more. He's gone. Sorry, he's. Mixing his pockets. Sorry about to go down and score. We started a fast break.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Draymond leg kicks, sorry, Easton Taro go down and Draymond pretends like his feet fall in the Tari's head and we love sorry, by the way. So this is basketball. And the rest look at it and we're like, he's gone. Finally, he's out. It's over. The referee came for the people and said, that's a flagrant one. Two technicals and you're gone.
Starting point is 00:04:55 But if you have a flagrant and a technical, you only Dreybaum would know that. So the first one was a sportsman like the second one was excessive contact. But it wasn't the criteria to be a flagrant too. And only Dreybaugh would go into a game knowing I've got two Mulligans to play with and I'm gonna do whatever it takes for my team to win. And that's the type of guy, you normally get that up and chat from the European players.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Right. They grab you where they're not supposed to grab you. The elbow you did it. The spit never do that. They do the dirty stuff. But Dreymon had just figured that out from the standpoint of like, what do I need to do to be on the floor? It was nothing sexy about Dreymon was a center in college. When he came into the league, we had seven.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Dreymon got the worst name you can get from a draft report. A tweener. You remember that name? A tweener tweener is a good name now because I was a tweener. You know, yeah, this was too big. I was too big to play wide receiver. I was too small to play a tight end. No position. So Dreymon with this even between us. So that's a good thing now.
Starting point is 00:06:04 But we won seven feet and he couldn't handle the ball per se well enough or shoot the ball to play on the wing. So he made a name for himself. You know what I'm saying? He made a name for himself and he's done enough. And it's unbelievable, honestly. Yeah, I was too big and too slow to play wide receiver,
Starting point is 00:06:20 Ocho, but I was too small to play tight end. I did okay. I didn't play that expensive. You only 6'2"? Huh. You only 6'2"? Huh? You only 6'2"? 6'2", yeah. I played it like 2'28".
Starting point is 00:06:30 Y'all football numbers be lyin'. Chad, all about 5'11". Woo! You ain't 6'3", Chad. I'm legit 6'2". Man, I'm 6'3", man. What you talkin' about? You ain't seen me in a while.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Chad, you get on the court with me again. I'm putting them elbows in your face. I'ma tell man. What you talking about? You ain't seen me in a while. So you get on the court with me again. I'm putting them elbows in your face. I'm going to say that man. Listen, I went nice to you. I went nice to you. Don't go there. Don't go there, Ryan. Hey, listen, every everybody, everybody that has played in the NBA, including current players right now, everybody has tried to play me and everybody has lost.
Starting point is 00:07:02 If you want me to add you to the hit list, I can add you to the hit list. He got jokes. Let me tell you something. We on the set of ESPN and he talk crazy to me. And I'm like, man, whatever, we in the segment. Next thing I know, they done cleared the desk out. Me and him playing one-on-one.
Starting point is 00:07:19 I turn it around. Chad just tackle me, bro. We can't play the football player. He grab my arm, he do it. Chad, next time I'll give you an elbow so you ain't got no trash and talk. And then, you know, he gonna talk. Westbrook couldn't beat me.
Starting point is 00:07:34 LeBron couldn't beat me. I said, Chad, come on, bro. Chad, come on. All of them, nobody, none of them, none of them. Well, he and Joe, he and Joe got a bad two. He say he want Joe one on one. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I'm playing football rules. I'm playing football rules. That's fine. I'm gonna bring a picture of you on the scene that time. That's fine. I've been in the gym. Whatever you wanna do.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Elbow, elbows, you know, it don't matter. I'm good. Hey, take a side guys. Jason Pierre Paul had his luxury Richard Miller watch stolen while attending F1 Formula One weekend party in Hollywood, Florida. JPP said he felt something fall off when a group of men boxed him
Starting point is 00:08:13 while he tried to move through the pack club. Moments later when a friend asked what time was it, he realized his 400 grand Richard Mille was gone. Some bold boys. JPP about six five, just six five to 270, right? You would've worked somebody. It was easy to come up cause you know we missing a couple of pinages so. Stop.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Stop, stop, stop, I wasn't gonna, stop, stop. But you know what, but you know. Stop. Stop. Stop. But you know what, but you know what, Ocho. Stop. Stop. But no, but you know what, but you know what, Ryan, in all seriousness,
Starting point is 00:08:57 that's a strap, that's a strap on watch. So it's easy to get off as opposed to, you know, one like, you know, I'm saying Ocho. It depends, it depends on what you have. 60. My arm 6702 is the Velcro. Oh, well, that's easy to get off. Yes. Yes. It's easy. It's easy. You know, somebody touch you and especially, but you would feel something like that coming off. He said he felt like something dropped off. So how could you not look? Oh, he felt something. Okay. Okay. I know they ain't taking off. He felt something drop when he was with me. something. Okay. He's okay. I know they ain't taking off.
Starting point is 00:09:26 He felt something off when he was with me in boxing. It's a big man right there. I know they ain't taking off. In boxing man. So that's what he did on y'all. Hey, Ocho, you know how you get, hey, you try to, excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. And them jokers done got it off you. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You know what? You remember the movie? What's the movie with
Starting point is 00:09:42 with Margaret, Margaret Roby and Will Smith? Where they were stealing stuff. Margaret Roby. Margaret Roby. What remember the movie, what's the movie with Margaret Roby and Will Smith, where they were stealing stuff? Margaret Roby. Margaret Roby. What was the movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Focus. Where they were stealing stuff?
Starting point is 00:09:51 Focus. Yeah, focus. That sound like something out of a movie. Hey, they touching right here and they stealing something from over there. Yeah, you could feel somebody taking something off your wrist. Oh, Joe. Man, hey, you go to some of them foreign countries
Starting point is 00:10:02 up at Joe and them Jokers have that cardboard. They be coming to, hey, you and them, of them foreign countries of patrol and them jokers have that cardboard, they be coming to you and whoop. Hey, back up. Now, what do you do that is stolen? Talk it up. Insurance? Yeah, insurance, that's all they can do. Yeah, yeah. You got that good insurance,
Starting point is 00:10:19 you got that good insurance? I hope he got insurance. Yeah, he got to, he got to. No one report that. JPP.P. is a dog. But that's one of my favorite. But you know what? But you know what? It ain't I don't care, man. Look, I have had stuff stolen.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It ain't the same. It ain't it ain't even when you get your money back. No, because because here's the thing for me, those watches, each watch that I bought, it symbolized something because I was at a place where I had to take two, three years in order to get it. Now, I can just go get it. It don't have the same meaning, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:10:55 Ochoa, when you save up and get that first Rolex, or you save up and you get your first Patek, it's different. And now, you just go get it. I mean, watches, I mean, I like watches, but it doesn't have the same meaning I had 30 years ago when it was like, man, I saw that. And I got like, okay, in two years,
Starting point is 00:11:16 I'm gonna save me enough money, do an appearance here, do an autograph signing there, Ocho. I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna get that Day-Date, Blackface, Diamond Bezel. I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna get that Day-Date, Blackface, Diamond Bezel. I'm gonna get that. Now, I mean, you go just get a watch. I mean, cause you know, you make good money. It ain't the same to me.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I mean, somebody like, hey, Patek, AP, Vacheron, J, you know, F.P. Jordan. No. Marlon Humphrey had a wild take this week. He tweeted, Breakfast food is so weak. I've been skipping it and waiting until what restaurants opened earliest for lunch.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Nah, I'm a breakfast guy. Yeah, I'm a breakfast guy too. He trippin'. Every morning, I got three places. Either I'm going to McDonald's to get my usual, I'm going to IHOP to get my two for two, or I go to First Watch. Oh, well, I got another one.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I got another one, too. If you ever come down here, Miami, you two, Ryan, y'all got to try Just Spoons. OK, man, answer your phone when I hit you, Chad. Don't tell me I got a new number. I got a new number. No, you don't. Answer your phone when I hit you, Chad. I got you. I do have a new number, I got a new number. No you don't. It's your phone, it texts me dog. It's your phone when I hit you, Char.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I got you, I do have a new number. You hit Char, what's up man, what you need? Oh, okay, okay. Nah, I got a new number. I love breakfast though. I'm a, I love grits, eggs, bacon crispy. If it's gonna be sausage, it's gonna be sausage patties. Pancakes, I take pancakes over french toast.
Starting point is 00:12:49 It'd be pancakes first, french toast second, a waffle third. I'm not a big waffle guy cause they get soggy too quick. I mean, I can do eggs Benedict, but it's not a must have. But scrambled eggs, grits, bacon or sausage, I'm it. Yeah, I'm not gonna like meat.
Starting point is 00:13:13 I've been fasting for breakfast. Hey, hold on. I just thought about it. Boy, you been to Grits Cafe yet? Where is that at? Man, right where you at? What you talking about? I'm gonna have to go to it then.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Grits Cafe, you heard of that? Man, hey, I guarantee you, all jokes, let me take my glasses off so you know I ain't bullshitting. I guarantee you love Grits Cafe. I bet you that. And everything you just named, they got. I mean, I used to go like, during the week in Atlanta, the Ritz Carlton used to have breakfast.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Buffet for them grits. Hold on, I started high, that guy one time to just make breakfast. Say, look here, bro, I just need you to break breakfast like four days a week. Grits Cafe is us though, it's us. You get what I'm trying to say? I'ma check it out.
Starting point is 00:14:02 What you saying, Chur? I'ma check it out, it's Ocho. What you trying to say, Chur? Ocho sent me. Hey, I'm trying to say it I'ma check it out. What you saying, Chard? I'ma check it out then, Ocho. What you trying to say, Chard? Ocho sent me. Hey, I'm trying to say it's us, like it's- What's up? Yeah. If they cooking grits, I'm pretty sure it is us.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Okay, okay, yeah, there you go, there you go. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cause everybody can't cook grits now, Ocho. Oh no, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, they give you these croissants to go with before the breakfast come? Yeah. It's at, hold on, it's at LA? No. No. I will tell y'all fair. We don't want everybody inundating it.
Starting point is 00:14:42 All right, all right, Ocho, we had the 100 men versus the gorilla, now they got another one, 100 Americans vs 100 British people, who's winning? Check out this video. Alright 100 British people vs 100 Americans fist fight no weapons and I'm going to make it more interesting. The British people get 20 savages from Birmingham, London, Manchester, Nottingham and Liverpool and the Americans get 20 savages from Louisiana, Los Angeles, New York, Chicago and wherever else. Texas.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Who wins that fight? Let me know in the comments section, you know, I'm sweating. No weapons and you can't sneak in, no shranks either, no guan, you know, I'm sweating. Leave it in the comments section. Let me know. I think America will beat the hell out of y'all. Who? I think America's going to win. I mean, I... You know what? It's going to be riding because you know a lot of them from Birmingham, and where he's named, Ireland, they're soccer fans, man. They be on one, old Joe.
Starting point is 00:15:43 They don't play. They die about soccer. They are willing to die. Anybody that's willing to die about a sport, they don't play. We are in a theater, Mocho. How you think we became America? Ta-da! I mean, damn!
Starting point is 00:16:05 That's a good one. So we good. Hey, bro, we good. We already one up. That's a good one. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi for a conversation that's anything but ordinary. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of 3C Ventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi for a conversation that's anything
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Starting point is 00:19:53 Albert Brear. The Giants won, they gave players an install, and there are mistakes intentionally put in the install. He didn't catch them and got called out. He was pissed that they did that to him. Mm-hmm Now before we get into this Ocho, I told you you and I had a conversation I said Ocho unless teams tell us what their draft grade is Oh should do it then and only then can we the Cleveland Brown says we didn't have a first or second day grade on
Starting point is 00:20:23 I mean a first day grade on. They said that. So unless the other 31 teams come out and tell you, Ocho, man, I don't know why. Okay, I had this grade on him. Some teams say they had him as a third day option. Ocho, we were talking, I said, normally Joe, what they do with the quarterback,
Starting point is 00:20:42 they're bringing in the quarterback, they'll send plays and look, okay, here's the plays we want you to break them that want you to diagram, blah, blah, what they do with the quarterback, they're bringing in the quarterback, they'll send plays and look, okay, here's the plays we want you to break them, that want you to diagram. Blah, blah, blah. Or they'll get you in, says, okay, here's the play. Two jab, flanker drive, red right, two jab, flanker drive, okay? Z motion.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So the Z is the flanker. He got the drive route. Tight end, got the basic cross. We can run the dig, we can run a dig, or we could just have the X run a post to clear it out to make sure ain't nobody backside. And then you know, got the rim right, got the bat, check it. So we tell you that.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Okay, we tell you, okay, what's happened this, if you get this front, this is where you go with the ball, you get this covered, you go here with the ball. So now, oh, so you know the play is long now, they got this, red, right, yogi, sample, X-Men, diverse, the disc, the deck. So they tell the quarterback this. Now, they show it to him on the board, then it goes dark, they say, okay, good, you wanna play on the board. And they want you to regurgitate what you sold. Because as a quarterback, you have to have great recall. Because if they call that damn play, Joe,
Starting point is 00:21:53 and you'll have it, you got to regurgitate. Plus you gotta know, if I get this coverage, I go here. If I get that coverage, I go here. If I get hot, I go here. I go here. If I get that coverage, I go here. If I get hot, I go here. But a lot of times they're like, you know, we want you to like be a quarterback. Now, knowing what you've heard, Cleveland Brown said we didn't have a day one grade on it.
Starting point is 00:22:21 We had a more like a fourth or fifth, you know. Fourth, fifth round grade on it. OK, fine. The Giants sent him plays to install, intentionally put mistakes in, he didn't catch the mistakes. They told him, he got upset that they didn't tell him. Oh Joe, what's your thoughts? I mean, listen, I understand teams have to do their just do
Starting point is 00:22:44 when it comes to these meetings, these interviews, going over plays and having installs and having quarterbacks go up and explain plays. There are a lot of people, Unc, that play the game of football, that can go into these meetings and these interviews and ace them. They can point out every mistake, they can do everything right. And you turn on a film, they sorry than a motherfucker. They sorry as hell. Can't play a liquor ball,
Starting point is 00:23:14 but they're great in the film room. They're great in, and it comes with drawing up plays, but when it's time to play where it actually matters, on game day on Sunday at one o'clock, they're horrible. We know what you get what you do or when he plays the game of football on Sunday. We watched him do it at Jackson State. We watched him do it in high school.
Starting point is 00:23:34 We watched him do it at a very bad institution and turning that program around in Colorado. Yep. So what you tell him about him not knowing and him missing mistakes on something you purposely try to trip him up on. Okay, he didn't see it. He didn't see it. But I know what I get on the field. Why even play this game? What game are we playing? What are you proven by purposely
Starting point is 00:24:03 putting mistakes in there? He's a rookie, he's coming in, he's young. Of course he gonna miss it. Of course he gonna miss stuff like that. Who wouldn't at the position? Yeah, that's not his plays. You know, if you were to give you the game, his plays at Colorado and then try to slip that in. Cause the BP, my position coach in Denver
Starting point is 00:24:22 would do that sometimes. And I was like, you know, I was like, no, this is not a 70. This is a 50 protection. 50 protection, you know, I mean, blocking. So 70 protection, I'm free to go. So you call the play knowing. You know, and we had we had live colors, you know, blue Detroit. That's a live color that, you know, we get a stretch, we get over
Starting point is 00:24:45 what we call a bare front, a bare stretch or Navajo. We call it Navajo. Some people call it what Joe, I'll be teaching a little football. When you have the center and both guards cover, that's called a bare front. Yeah. Now, if you want to stretch it, we put somebody over, we put somebody over the tight end, and we put the defensive end outside. That's called a bare stretch. The 85 Bears made that defense famous.
Starting point is 00:25:10 That's a Buddy Ryan defense. So, bare. Both guards, center covered, that's a bare defense. Now you stretch it, you put some of it over the tight end, you put the defense outside. So that's a four down lineman. And they found out the way, the way you beat that defense because what teams were trying to do,
Starting point is 00:25:27 they was trying to take the tight end and block Richard Deer. Oh, Richard. Uh-uh, bad idea. Hold on. And so if you did that, if you went out to blocking, the guy over you would come hit your quarterback in the back of his head.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So they say, huh, how about we do this? We fake like we go block this guy. When he see that, he gonna come. We just raise up and throw you the ball. Or what we do, we'll slide it or we'll molly the protection. We'll take the tackle, we'll kick to him, or we'll take the guard to molly out to him. They started blocking it up.
Starting point is 00:26:04 People got out of the bare defense because you're one on one. Joe, no, so you said, why play these games? Why, why put the mistakes in there? Just have the man regurgitate the play. Draw it up. Okay, here it is, Ishtador. This is one of our best plays right here. Is this da, da, da, da, da, da.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Okay, you see this coverage? Where you going with the ball with the ball if the coverage was such a if the coverage though discover one Single high safety now if we had quarters coverage or if we wanted to cover six what we call cover six Joe We play quarters on one side. We play cover sick half the field on the backside six kick That means a we press on the two side. Oh, yeah That's what we that's what the kick come in, but we play in quarters one side we press on the two side, Ocho. That's where the kick come in, but we play in quarters, one side, half the field, the other side, that's why we call it six.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Two, four, six. Okay, now, go should do a quarter play. You go into the line of scrimmage. Now I done told you, I done gave you three names. This is where we go with cover one, this is where we go with quarters, this is where we go with cover one. This is where we go with quarter. This is where we go with cover six. Go to the cover, you call it.
Starting point is 00:27:11 It's cover one, it's cover one. Blue, 17. No, no, no, it's six, it's six, it's six. Boom. You see how chaotic it get? Yeah. Quarterback gotta remain calm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Because they joshed around. Oh, Joe, you know, they started one thing. They did it. Dallin around. They rock and roll. Yeah. Safety. They tootie. Now here he come. No, they shoot back the other way. You remember the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Hell, Troy Pallamalo. And the line of scrimmage. And the next thing you know, hell, he in the hole. Right where he's supposed to be at. Yep. So that and I get it, but look, hey. I mean look, when you turn the film on, Uncle Ocho, when you watching Shadour,
Starting point is 00:27:53 like for me it's like the film shows the poise and patience that he has in the pocket, although you know everybody say his line wasn't great. I thought he showed tremendous poise and patience. Yes. And I feel like, I feel like his talent will show in game situations. You got some guys, man, who are just performers, bro. They just, they just know how to perform.
Starting point is 00:28:16 They not, I've seen guys who wasn't great practice players, but man, you put them in the game, they know how to perform. And I feel like, I feel like that's when his talent is show. I think he get his opportunity. I think he'll get in there and he'll get a chance to show what he can do. And his talents will be on display. But I think he's getting a knock for not having the athletic
Starting point is 00:28:39 paralysis that his daddy has. Or yeah. And it's just not it's just not who he is as an athlete. Yeah. He has the opportunity. I think it's a blessing in disguise. The Browns have struggled on trying to find a quarterback since Bernie Cozart and finding someone consistent, someone
Starting point is 00:28:56 that can be a quarterback for that franchise for a decade straight. And I think God put him in this position and sending him to Cleveland on purpose to give him that drive and that hunger. Not that he didn't have it already, but the purpose of giving that drive and hunger to show everyone that passed on him and obviously show to Cleveland Brown that you made the right decision in bringing me here.
Starting point is 00:29:20 So I'm happy for him despite you know what what would happen you know having to go in the fifth round I don't know I think it's probably a little fire upon him he gonna be alright you're gonna be alright because he's definitely gonna be there everybody out even to beat everybody he might not be flacco out but if flacco struggles at some point this season they gonna make that change now flaco gonna not look. Flaco gonna have 350, three touchdowns, but three picks too now.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Now, Flaco, he a equal opportunity employer. He gonna help you, he gonna help Bill. Joe, is there any similar situation to like, so what's the NBA pre-draft? What is it like? NBA pre-draft, yes, you know, guys go there and you do the agility test. I don't think guys, yes, you know, guys go there and you do the agility test. I don't think guys sit out, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:08 from what I can remember, especially when I had to go through it, man, you had, we had to do everything. Now what they've implemented is, you know, you see a lot of guys, they had to play five on five now, scrimmages, back when I was coming out, guys had to do that, okay, Ocho, you know what I mean? Wow.
Starting point is 00:30:24 You go to a team, you have these individual workouts where, okay, so I worked out for the top 10 teams in the NBA draft in 2001. So I worked out for 10 teams. And then, in those workouts, yeah, they were working me like a dog. So in those workouts, in those workouts, they invite two, maybe three more other guys
Starting point is 00:30:43 so y'all can play two on two, so y'all can play one on one. So we can see who is what. And- You cooking them, Joe? Man, listen, I was getting into the chicken because coming out, I wasn't a top prospect to some degree.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Guys were telling me I was gonna go top 10, but I didn't know, so I had to work out for the top 10 teams and guys who were coming out in my time, who was before me, well, you know, that was a high school draft, the Kwame Brown, the Tyson, yeah, Curry.
Starting point is 00:31:16 But you still had the Jason Richardson, the Shane Baddie A's, guys like that. So I was looking to work out against those type of dudes, you know, to try to improve my draft stock. And I ended up getting drafted 10, but I don't know, after 10, I hadn't worked out for any of the other mother teams, so I wouldn't know what it would have been like.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Right. Jose, I'm cooking something. I don't know about y'all, but I'm cooking today. Man, look, you get once in a lifetime, bro. Like, it's like, it's like, it's so close. It's right there in your hands and you like, it's going to be left up to you, especially in those workouts, you know, to these scouts,
Starting point is 00:31:54 these coaches, these executives, GMs, things of that sort. So, man, I think those are the moments that we all live for. We trying to compete for a roster spot. Oh yeah. That's exactly right. Raven's rookie kicker, Tyler Loop, hit a 75 yard field goal with ease.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Loop has a cannon for a leg. Does Baltimore have their replacement for Justin Tucker, Ocha? I mean, no, I wouldn't say that yet. Justin Tucker, one of the greatest kickers of all time. I know he struggled last year, struggled a little bit before that. But just because you have a strong leg
Starting point is 00:32:24 doesn't mean you're consistent. It doesn't mean you're gonna be consistent in clutch and clutch situations when Justin Tucker has always been. Having a strong leg is cool. I mean, that's nice being able to kick from 75 yards. That's also nice, but can you do it when the game is on the line? Pressure.
Starting point is 00:32:37 Can you do it when it's windy? You know, so there's so many other factors that come into him being having a strong leg, but also being a great clutch kicker in situations where it matters most. Because it's easy to do it right now. It ain't no pressure on you. Ain't no pressure, ain't no line, ain't no crowd, ain't no fans. No, there's nothing else affecting you in kicking 75 yards. But can you do it when it matters, when it matters most? Right. Man, hell, all these kickers got legs now.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I mean, I mean, I, oh, Joe, guys, they wouldn't even let you attempt no 60 yarder. Now these guys like, okay, to get about five more yards than 60 yard. These guys kept, from now, a 50 yard field goal is like a 50 yard field goal is like a PAT. That's a layup, that's a layup, that's a layup. These guys got, these guys got, I mean, when I was in,
Starting point is 00:33:23 only a handful of guys was, what could be consistently accurate from 50 plus I mean they was trying to get that thing 45. Yeah. But now and they get oh Joe you miss a 55 yard and they like what what happened yeah what happened is 55 yard. Remember the goalpost a little bit more narrow now. A little bit more narrow. So you know I kicked 65 yards too now. Yeah. Oh Lord. No, I promise you not. Listen, hey, listen, now you know, who was the backup kicker for the Bengals
Starting point is 00:33:56 for a decade straight? They didn't have to use you in that, thank God. Okay, they did use me. They used me when we played the Patriots now. So you know I can kick. In the preseason. I know, if he had got hurt in the regular season, I was still the backup kicker.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Oh, you kicked one in the preseason, Hojo? Yeah, boy. Hey, it was, hey, Joe, it would have been good from 50. Oh, Lord. Hey, matter of fact, chat, chat, can somebody please send this to Uncle, if, ask the chat, there's video of me, footage of me kicking 65, kicking 70.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Like look at chat, go on Google it, ask it. Yeah, kicking the ball, you wasn't kicking no field goals, no 65 or 70. No, I'm talking about field goals. Somebody in the chat, man, please show Unk, man, me kicking from 65. Oh, you got Google it, YouTube it, it's on there. Hey, with ease too, Unk. Like it would have been's on there. Hey, with ease too, uh?
Starting point is 00:34:45 Like it would have been good from 73. Guys with ease. It ain't good enough that he was kicking 50, 60, or 70 yards, now he kicking it with ease. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I got a soccer background, Joe, so you know, I do a little bit of everything now. Oh, okay, I see, I see.
Starting point is 00:34:59 Elite college football recently ranked the most toxic fan bases in college football. Number 1, Ohio State. Number 2, Florida. Number 3, Georgia. Number 4, CU. Wow. Number 5, Miami.
Starting point is 00:35:16 Number 6, Tennessee. Number 7, Texas. Number 8, Alabama. Number 9, FSU. Number 10, Michigan. One, two, three, four, five of the top ten, where do you play football at, Elcho? In Miami. SEC.
Starting point is 00:35:35 SEC? Hey, I still haven't had a chance to really go to these games and really understand. You got to go, listen, go to University of Georgia. Go to Tennessee. I went to Tennessee with my daughter. She was on a visit. Go to Alabama. You gotta go. You gotta go to work. You gotta go to Tennessee game in the LSU game. That's it in Arkansas. You gotta go watch the Razorback. Go Alabama UGA now take San Am to see 105. 105 what?
Starting point is 00:36:08 Thousand. In the stadium? They be rocking. In the stadium? Yeah, they be rocking. Yeah, Ocho, you know the South, look, you grew up in Florida. And that's what I tell people,
Starting point is 00:36:17 when you play in the South, football is it. Yeah, it's different. They closed that way, you swear to play in a small town, they close early. They gotta, you gotta go to the game. How long? That's why in Texas, they got high school stadiums that hold 20,000.
Starting point is 00:36:34 A high school stadium that looked better than some college with their weight facilities. Football is king. Man, look here. And that's what, who was we talking to? We went to, we were going to tour and we had somebody at camp. And he was talking about, I said, bro,
Starting point is 00:36:52 ain't nothing, Georgia Bulldogs in the state of Georgia? Atlanta Falcons went to Super Bowl, 10. They ain't playing at UGA. Who's that? Them dogs. Football. What? Yes sir. And then they go? Them dogs. It's football. What? Yes sir.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And then they go to Braves. Yeah, yeah. You're talking about somebody little, I've been there. Boy, Ocho, man. And when they used to play, I don't know, they might still do, they still do. They play at Jacksonville Stadium. Boy, at 16, coming out 16 to get down on 95
Starting point is 00:37:27 to go down to Jacksonville. Man. They love some football in the South. I'm not surprised. I gotta see that. Hey, hey, look, but I'm surprised to see you. When did see you get such a rabid fan base? You basing this off two years?
Starting point is 00:37:43 Prime effect, baby. Yeah. In Miami, I know Miami. Y'all just show up because Miami, they don't come to nothing on time. No, we don't. We don't get there in the second quarter. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Exactly. Ohio State, yes. Florida, Georgia, yes. Tennessee, Texas, Alabama, Michigan. Florida State, I don't know what y'all been rabid about. Y'all been, y'all ain't been good in a minute. I mean, listen, the best, obviously the best college when it comes to college football in Florida.
Starting point is 00:38:13 Now UM had a phenomenal year last year, but FAMU is a better college. FAMU is the best college football team here in the state of Florida. You like FAMU? FAMU is, listen Listen, Famu's everything. Famu's the. We gotta we gotta we gotta find HBCU. We gotta rank the HB10 top 10 HBCU fan bases. Uh number one is what
Starting point is 00:38:32 number one is Famu. Top to bottom. I don't know Ocho. I think it might be Granville or Southern. Come on. Wait. Come on. But our human jukebox. Man, our human jukebox. Listen, with all due respect, with all due respect to the human jukebox, they were nothing. They will never be comparable to the incomparable Marching 100. Don't do that. Oh they done passed it one over. They done passed y'all. They done passed y'all bro. Yeah they done passed y'all. The jukebox is where it's at. The jukebox.
Starting point is 00:38:59 Man listen man, listen man, Dr. White and brother Shelby Chipman have done a wonders. Have done a wonder with the March 100. They done a wonders, but that jukebox. Nah, listen, no man. Oh yo, they ain't even break, oh yo, they ain't break number two records. That wasn't even the full jukebox that we had at the end. I know, I know, listen, I've been watching something for a very long time. And chat, listen to me, if there's anybody, oh young put you probably won't do this, but it's for me.
Starting point is 00:39:25 You know how much I love the band. Anybody in the chat that went to a PCU and might have played in the band. Let me tell you how much I love Southern. Still to this day. I always watch it's on YouTube. It's called a fifth quarter. Obviously, you know what the fifth quarter after after two HPC teams, but at the end of the game, but they go back and forth. Battle of the human ju but they go back and forth. Ballot of bands.
Starting point is 00:39:46 The Human Jukebox versus Alcorn State in 2014. Chat, if y'all have any time to go on YouTube and watch Southern versus Alcorn State in 2014, boy, you will enjoy it. It was a masterpiece from both schools back and forth. But when it comes to HBCU marching bands, there was nothing, nothing like that school, the highest of the seven hills down in Tallahassee, Florida, that looked like a reptile
Starting point is 00:40:13 known as the Rattlers. Nothing like them. Nothing. And I stand on that. They gonna put on a show. Man, every time. Only one school is Mars for the president now. Only one school is going to play for the president now. We done been everywhere all over the world. We different. Huh? We strike different.
Starting point is 00:40:34 What you mean we? You went to Oregon State. Time out, time out, time out. You know I wasn't able to go to FAMU. I ain't had no grades coming out of high school. But listen, I'm an honorary member. I'm an honorary member. And I'm an ambassador for FAMU. Teddy. Hey, what a dog. What a dog. Joe, what a dog. Titus. He put up, Titus sleep.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Titus. I'm talking about Joe Titus sleep. Titus sleep. I'm talking about Joe, I wanna see Joe dog. He roaming the property right now, Ocho. Oh, you got property, boy, you got money. Property? And he say he was in the yard, then he say he on the property. Ocho, you gotta cheer, Ocho, you gotta cheer.
Starting point is 00:41:18 You gotta cheer, Ocho, you gotta cheer. But the dog say he on the property. He got a, he doing his job right now. He doing a job. What you got? What you got money? I'm gonna put him on, I'm gonna bring him on camera for you. But he looks, he the same color as dog dog.
Starting point is 00:41:33 He brown with that black mask. Yeah, he bite. Yeah, he bite. Yeah, yeah. He got teeth dog. I rough, I rough. Name something that got teeth that don't bite. I rough your dog up. Yeah, I rough, I rough. Name something that got teeth that don't bite. Yeah, I rough your dog up.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Who? Me. All right, you gonna put the suit on? You gonna put the suit on later? I don't need no suit. I don't need no suit. Just let, just, just, just, you got commands for him, right?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Yeah. Yeah, just command him to attack and watch what I do to him. Nah, I ain't gotta command him nothing. All you I do to him. No, I ain't got to command him nothing. All you gotta do is be in the backyard. I ain't gotta say nothing. I ain't gonna say a word. But I know you don't see that thing on YouTube
Starting point is 00:42:18 where that Amazon driver, that UPS Amazon driver, he hopped over that fence back. You see that? I said, where's the package in his hand? Hey, that was funny. I see what delivered. Looked like he was delivering the Uber Eats, and that big dog came through the screen, though.
Starting point is 00:42:34 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Put a little tie out there and then catch him a little bit. He would have had Buddy, yeah. The volume. I'm Michael Kassin, founder and CEO of Free Seaventures and your guide on Good Company, the podcast where I sit down with the boldest innovators shaping what's next. In this episode, I'm joined by Anjali Sood, CEO of Tubi.
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