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Episode Date: May 18, 2025

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If you look at how many players even answered who's overrated question, only 90 of the 450 players in the NBA. Then you see only 14.4% of the 90 voted for Tyrese Halliburton. It maps out to 13 guys. Obviously it should have been zero, but the NBA is the most petty league on earth.

Oh, what do you think about the players? Are we making too much out of this? Basically 13 players said Halle was overrated. I mean, yeah, we making too much out of it. I think he's a great team player. He do what for his team to win. He ain't, you know, he come and try to average 25 points. There's a team that moved the ball around,

everybody get the balls to the open guy. And you know, the team must feel happy with what he do night in, night out. They gave him a guarantee, you know, they gave him the stitch in like two years ago. Yeah, they gave him a match done. A year ago. And yeah, and plus he's on the dream team.

And I think that he's a good kid. He deface, you know, for the Pacers. Like I said, they back to back, he used to come, you know, finals. So, hey, every team need a guy. You know, you ain't gotta be the guy that have the 25 points, you need that guy that you can go to and know that he got your back.

And he seemed like he was a real general guy and you know, the teammate praise him. So, hey, you know, people always, you know, say this and that about your game, but long as you know what you bring to your team, that's all that matters. I told, I told Unc, right? I said, the players that actually voted

that might've said something, I just said,. I said the players that actually voted that might've said something. I just said, they only said it because his game wasn't aesthetically pleasing. It wasn't nice to watch. It's beautiful. Watch God damn Kyrie Irvin. It's beautiful to watch Shade. He does, you know, it's beautiful to watch Steph shoot threes and come off picking roles and, and, and picking pop and all that stuff.

It's beautiful. Why Kevin Durant, you know, come off something and pull up in the midi. But when you watch Halliburton, it's not pretty, but he gets the job done. Get the job done. He's the second, he on the second, third tier guy. He's not in the top tier of the NBA.

But you know what? Everybody that have a guy on their team to be the leader, be the captain. So he's that guy. So if he don't have a 25, but they still win, that's what's best on the team to be the leader, be the captain. So he's that guy. So if he only have 25, but they still win, that's what's best for the team. So, you know, everybody into the crossover behind your back and one, Kyrie finished at the rim,

Curry shoot one leg, half court shots. Yon is coming down to good, dunking on everybody. You know, AD, you know, do what he do, but that's what make your team go. LeBron, to take for his team, get everybody involved. I mean, everybody got a different job. When you're a leader, my thing is, where you at the last two years,

it's hard to critique his game in a bad way because the team is there. It's a team effort, and he's at stake on the team. Nick Van Exel has a theory on the increased Achilles tears. He said there've been an Achilles tear throughout the years but my thoughts on them is that they happen more now than I think if something has to do with them damn lows the players wearing now.

Cover them ankles up, fellas. You think it has something to do with the shoe that the guys are wearing or what do you think the problem is? I ain't got nothing to say. I mean, a lot of guys getting hurt wearing low tops now. They just cute shoes, but when you playing ball, you gotta be tightened up and for all safeties,

this and that, but they like to say, they're doing more running too. They getting them down to court more, they turning more. We used to play up and down, now they're playing sideways and up and down. So it ain't physical, but you still get up and down. You put miles on them shoes. Let me ask you a question, though.

Did you, did you, did guys, did guys tape their ankles? Do guys tape their ankles or do they play free? I don't think they tape, I think we played 90% tape. Now it's probably 20% tape. Because when we play, if you get hurt, if your ankle get twisted and you can't play, they gonna find you. Damn.

They don't do that no more. Oh yeah. They just find guys. So that's why most guys in our era, they played with the ankles, you know, so ankles are just a net cause they was taped. But now they taped, they don't get them taped and they twist them, they gotta miss two or three weeks.

Cause I got, I don't know how, did you tape your ankles on Joe? Yeah, for fashion, not for no support. You got, I like to feel the ground. I can't feel the ground with tape on my ankles. I need to be flexible in a sense. You know, I was a Reebok at that time, you know, Reebok had the uniforms and stuff, right?

Right. I had them take all the cushion and in what you call the line and out of my shoe. Yeah. My cleat was nothing but a shell and some shoe laces. I need to feel everything. It was like I had a track spot. You want like a soccer shoe. Exactly. I need I need to feel the floor every time I touch the floor.

So when we played with Pat Riley, we had to tape and shoot around. What? And shoot around? Yeah. Yeah. We had to tape sometime and shoot around. If we lose a game by 20 points or something, we had to get, they shoot around, we had to come and tape because we run up to suicides and all. Yeah, Pat. Pat Riley, they make sure you was in shape. Body fat, everything. Suicide at the NBA level because you lose a game?

I mean, it's felt like that, yeah. I mean, that's how he, you know, yeah. He get all the miles on them shoes. Achilles and ACL injury this season alone. De'Jonte Murray tore his Achilles. Dame tore his. Jason Tatum tore his. Isaiah Jackson tore his Achilles.

Drew Smith ruptured his Achilles. Kyrie Grant Williams, D'Anthony Melton, and Maurice Wagner all tore ACL, and Grant Williams had meniscus damage. I take that directly to my skin. So I would take directly to my skin. I do more. Huh?

You got no pre-wrap? I ain't got no pre-wrap. I got mold skin, you know that thick mold skin, you know that thick tape? Yeah. I had the mold skin and then I had that brown tape, Ocho. You know that brown tape, they gotta take the scissors to cut. Okay, okay, that's what I mean. That's how I take my brown tape, Ocho. You know that brown tape, they gotta take the scissors to cut.

Okay, okay, that's what I meant. That's how I take my ankles. Okay, okay. I didn't have no pre-wrap, no pre-wrap, no. I thought that was the thin. No, I had that brown tough ass tape that they had to take the scissors to cut. Oh, I know what you're talking about, okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, my ankles were bad, man. I couldn't chance it, Ocho. Yeah. Now, I. Yeah. My ankles were bad, man. I couldn't, I couldn't chance it on Joe. Yeah. Now, I didn't take that. That's in the game. Now, I did, I did regular taping practice, right? But for the game. Oh, okay. But here's the thing. Oh, I wore. But you're stopping and going the game a lot though. See, the thing was is that I wore, I wore, I wore, I wore mids, and then later in my career, I went to the low. Oh, okay. But see, cause, but I didn't roll my ankle,

like a lot of people rolled their ankle over the top. I would turn mine in. Wow. People would fall over, would drag me down, Ocho, and the ankle rolled in. I know what you're talking about. Cause they pulling you from behind too, huh? Yes, yeah, yeah.

And they putting their weight on you. That hip drop, that hip drop tackle. Yeah, and they put their weight on you. They putting their weight on you. That heel drop tackle. Yeah, they put their weight on you. Yes. You get caught right underneath. Yep. I think we play guards, like point guards, two guards might wear low,

but all the big guys, they wearing high. They wouldn't wear no low top. If somebody see you in a paint with low top, they gonna knock you in the head. But then, you remember when we, you a little older than me, Oak, but you remember Chuck Taylors. Guy used to play Chuck Taylor.

Up and down, ain't have no cushion, ain't have nothing. It ain't never twisted no ankle. Them Chuck Taylors just like, remember them pro kids? That was Chuck Taylor. They had no support. Hey, I played, I played with Geron Ennis,

with Boots and Philly and Gilly. Gilly was there too. And they had a celebrity basketball game I played in. I was Black Hot Tops, Black Hot Top Chucks, some Chuck Taylors. And they looked at me, they looked at me crazy. Everybody else, I didn't know what the Kyrie's and the KD's and the LeBrons and the, you know, and the Jordans, man, I didn't know what the Kyrie's and the Katie's and the LeBron's and the,

you know, and the Jordans. Man, I dropped about 12 out there, man, in a pair of Chucks. I'm moving and everybody else, boy, you ain't got your shoes taped up? No, because when I'm wearing them Chuck Taylors, I can feel the flow. I can feel everything.

It just, it felt so comfortable. And everybody looking at me like, boy, you crazy, boy, you gonna twist something. Say, man, I'm good. Dr. J used to wear. Dr. J back in the days. And then they came out the cons, because you know, when Dr. J, everybody wore the cons.

Ain't nobody wore, in the early 80s, ain't nobody, in the late 70s and the 80s, ain't nobody wore Nike. Nike didn't take off till Jordan got there. Everybody wore the cons, the Dr. J cons. They wore the Magic Johnson weapons, they wore the Larry Bird weapon. What you mean weapon? What brand is it? That's what they call the Converse. That's what Magic and a birds were called. And the Dr. J cons,

that's what they were heavy, but that's what everybody wore. And then when, you know, there are a few guys that wore like Iceman, Moses Malone had had Nike contracts, but the Converse was the shoe. The only person I remember wearing Adidas, oh, correct me if I'm wrong, was Kareem. Kareem had the top 10 Adidas. He was the only guy that I saw with Adidas. Everybody else normally had Converse and there were a few guys sprinkled in there

that had on a Nikes. Hey, they did, hey, hey they wear pony back in the days. Pony had basketball shoes. Yeah Spud Webb wore ponies. Yeah yeah some people were Spud Webb and Robert Parrish wore ponies. Okay okay okay. Everybody had a pair of pony cleats man as a little kid man. I had pony cleats too I'm a little kid, man. I had pony cleats too. And back then- Pony was big back then. Uh-huh. Pony was big back then.

They were. But you know, back then, when I was like in middle school or high school, the posters, so you had the Iceman sitting on the block of ice. Oh yeah, the two balls. Yeah. Yeah.

You had the poster. Two ice balls, yeah. The poster was the big, was huge back then. And I had a bunch of posters, I had a bunch of posters with Bird and I had a bunch of posters with everybody else. They'd probably be worse up than now, but back then you didn't,

you wasn't even thinking, you wasn't even thinking about, man, they gonna be worse up than. My grandma like, well, you need to throw that issue in the trash, jump it up my house. An anonymous player on the Nugget says, Russell Westbrook is immature, perl Ramona Shelburne. According to Ramona's article she reported, minutes after the Nuggets lost game 2 in their first round series against the Clippers, Edelman had a problem.

While he had been at post-game lectern, there had been a heated discussion between Westbrook and Gordon in the locker room. Multiple sources told ESPN Gordon had challenged Westbrook and Gordon in the locker room. Multiple sources told ESPN Gordon had challenged Westbrook about his attitude outside the locker room. One player relayed why Gordon might have done so. He's so immature he said of Westbrook. First, Russ' wife Nina came to defense on IG. Why the Nuggets title host might hinge on a volatile player in the NBA? You should be ashamed volatile. You should be ashamed for so many reasons. I'll let you decipher them. J. Williams doesn't want to hear excuses for Nicola Jokic.

She wrote, at Ramona Scherber at ESPN, dirty work when putting on Ramona. How could you share and spread so many lies randomly for no reason and with such conviction? You're using his name for clickbait during the playoffs, which is ridiculous. Trust me I know the facts about every about literally everything Normally, I let you guys tell your silly lies in peace enough already stop with the lies go nuggets Hey, you know, players do get into it all the time. They do, they do. I'm not sure, why is this even, why is this even news?

Okay, there's a disagreement. Okay, I don't like the way you act sometimes. I mean, that's life, that's for people that have never been a part of a locker room or any type of organized activity. This happens all the goddamn time. You didn't even lose. Hell, shit, I'm sure it was some time,

Carson didn't like some of the stuff I did. I'm sure it was time with Coach Lewis didn't like some of the stuff I did. What did they tell me? Hey, well, I don't like that, but I needed to chill a little bit. Shit, Big Willie. Big Willie told me,

stop talking to the demons of linemen and TV timeouts. You don't have to deal with him. I said, hey, Big Willie, it shouldn't be that big of a deal. I'm just talking shit. He said, yeah, you talking trash, but we gotta block. Yeah, you talking trash to people you ain't gotta block. Right, so I mean, okay, okay, I guess. talking shit." He said, yeah, you're talking trash, but we got to block. You're talking trash to people you ain't got to block. Right. So I mean, okay, okay, I guess there were certain things that, I mean, it happens. You have, you know, little riff raffs and okay, they got into it. So what?

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Yeah, I've been very fortunate to be in locker rooms where stuff didn't get out. I think now, you know, I don't know if people pillow talk, I don't know. Hey, everybody have chatted Patty, boy. Yeah. Everybody chatted Patty. They can't wait. And it's a certain player that knows all the goddamn reporters and always wanna leak some stuff.

Oh, it always comes from somebody inside the house. Cause I was, look, that's one thing. How was work? It was work. I mean, what we practice, we met, we practice. Oh, such a such call and say, I said, I don't know nothing about that. And I don't go no further. I know somebody called you and said this, but don't you call somebody else and say that. Because I don't want that ish coming up. Because at the end of the day,

you are a representation of me. Keep your mouth closed. What somebody else got going on that ain't got ish to do with you. You worry about this house. All that other stuff that's going on out there, that ain't got nothing to do with you. What did you, I don't know about nothing.

It ain't my business to know. It's my business to know Shannon's business and what goes on here. What you doing? That's my business. All that other stuff, what they're doing, I let them worry about that because I can't control the house. I ain't in their house. So I don't know what you're talking about.

What he said, well, she, I don't see that. That's the problem right there. He said, and now you repeating it. I don't get down like that. I don't want to hear nothing about what going on in somebody else's house. If it's not football related. I ain't got to do it.

I'm like, Hey, bro. All I'm saying, I ain't got nothing to do with it. Nah, I'm like, hey, bro. All I'm saying, I ain't gonna go, hey, you need to tighten your screws down a little bit. You're a little loose out here. Man, Sharp, what you mean, what you mean? Hey, Sharp don't go out, but if Sharp know, how did he know? Yeah.

Okay, yeah. So I'm gonna go, okay, okay, you right, you right, you right, okay, that's all I'm saying. Yeah. Because I'm telling you, you know, I don't know how you do it wherever you were, but Mike ain't gonna play that. Mike will get rid of your ass.

Yeah. Quick, quick, quick. So anything that's going to take your focus away from winning ball games, not being attentive. Look here. That's one thing. Hey, you came to work at, hey, when you went to Dove Valley, Bronco Parkway, you went to work.

All that other stuff and, see, I try to warn them. Because we had to see, we were the first team that had cameras throughout the whole building. In meeting rooms, big meeting rooms, training. I said, y'all do know, y'all run out of here, was throughout the whole building. In meeting rooms, big meeting rooms, training. I said, y'all do know, y'all run outta here, y'all get on the phone. Y'all run outta here and you get on your cellphone. It's okay.

Man, it's okay. It's okay. Hey, you know what I'm saying? Hey. Hey, listen, I'm laughing because I'm guilty, hey, you know what I'm saying? Oh, hey. Hey, listen, I'm laughing because I'm guilty, bro. I mean. Hey, you know how the old people, the old people like, oh, okay.

Yeah. That's what my grandma, my grandma wasn't home. She like. That's it. You're not, huh? Hey, anyway, hey, you brought back some memories, boy. Oh, Joe. You brought back memories. For that time, I didn't have to be, I wasn't on special team, but on Friday.

So Friday, they were like, hey, and special teams coach would always say, hey, we're gonna do hands team, so don't worry about it. We'll go over it, just be out there on the field, blah, blah, blah. Right. So I didn't really have to get to meetings till nine o'clock.

But anyway, okay, we got a break. So we got the big meeting. Mike, we got the big thing, you know, nine o'clock. But anyway, okay, we got a break. So, you know, we got the big meeting, Mike, we got the big thing, and then we gonna break up and defense go go in the area, offense stays here. And then after the offense, we're gonna be, okay, we got a 10 minute break cause we're gonna break up an individual.

We got the tight ends to running back to wide receivers. Yeah. I'm gonna leave us here. Yeah. Okay, man, sharp, man, you ain't, man, you ain't never on the phone, man. You, I mean, damn. I said, let me ask you a question. Where you think my girl think I'm at? Where do you think I think she's at?

Because see, y'all calling to check up. If I got to do that, I got to get me a new girl. I ain't calling to check up on you. You don't call to check up on me. You don't call to check up on me. As a matter of fact, my phone was off. Now if something like look, my phone was off. My nephew passed. They called my sister called the Broncos.

My phone was off. Mrs. Chandler, such as such, your mic need to see you. Damn became I went as it was so much. I said, yo, what's up, Mike? He say, your nephew passed. I said, oh, so your sister says she's been trying to get in touch with you. I said, okay. I called her. I called her.

She said, she's under my baby gone. It's like, all right, I'll be there. I went and I said, Mike, I gotta go. He said, all right, just let me know when you're coming back. I went home, took care of my sister, got there, and I was like Mike, I gotta go. Say, alright, just let me know when you're coming back. I went home, took care of my sister, got got that situated. I came out with like a Saturday. I got back that. Think that Wednesday. Right. I'm all business bro. When I'm at

work, I'm at work. I ain't talking to nobody on the phone. I ain't doing all that stuff I do all this day And now I talked to me, you know, cuz it was two hours difference in time So I'm going to work I might call my sister or once I got done with work before it got too late cuz you know, it's already You know seven o'clock my grandma going to bed if I wanted to talk to my granny I'll a living put granny on the ball right quick. But other than that, no, I ain't about that. All that talking and like I'm at work.

Oh, Joe, what am I doing at work? Yeah, well, you better than me, but we got to do it. Hey, listen, we hit when we leave that big team meeting and we got that like that 10 minute break before we go to the to the meeting. I'm on that phone where I'm I'm I'm just going to. Oh, I'm on that phone. I'm scrolling to it, I'm scrolling, cause this is towards the end. No, I got Twitter by that time, 2000, 2008, 2009, 2010.

Man, I'm all on it, man. I'm having a good time, you know, sending my tweets out and boom, I'm going to a meeting. Now, I don't take my phone with me to the meetings. But once I hit that meeting room, I'm strict. Oh, yeah, yeah. I never took a phone to the meeting. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, boy, when we got that break. Oh, well, you know how black folk, well, when we get a break, boy. Oh, yeah.

Hey, I'm going to join a break. I'm going to join. I'm bragging on somebody. That Joan. I'm going to Joan. I'm dragging on somebody. That's what I'm going to do. Okay, that's what we're going to do. Check this out. I don't know if you guys heard Michael Jordan will be joining NBA on NBC and Peacock as a special contributor.

Jordan the Bulls won six titles. He's a five-time champion and and he's regarded as the GOAT. What version of MJ would we get on air? What you expected? I mean, yeah, because think about it. I think the NBA hadn't been on NBC since, what, 02? Because the NBA used to be on NBC. Well, before, it was on CBS.

I remember when they had Bill Russell used to commentate NBC. Well, before it was on CBS. I remember when they had, Bill Russell used to commentate with Brent Musburger. That before your time, Joe. And then it went to NBC, Bob Costas, Marv Albert, Sideline reporting was a marvelous shot. I mean, we really, really never heard Mike really talk basketball, not in a professional setting, not in, you know, he's sitting around now. You hang out with him, he talk ball like that.

But cameras, action, people around, I don't know. I don't know what to expect. I think he's going to be very blunt and honest on there, like, you know, just telling kind of how you really see the game. Like, I don't think I think it's gonna be pretty entertaining. Okay, Ocho. I think people are gonna tune in because they want to hear Jordan talk. Because I mean, outside of it, we've really never heard Jordan talk except in a press conference or except after a game.

You know what I'm saying? We've really never heard him in a studio and he's asked to give a critique or an analyst or analyze what happened in the game or what this player did. You know, I like this player. I like Kobe. He liked LeBron. He liked this. He liked that. But to ask to critique and analyze a game, we've never heard him do this. I'm not saying that he can't because obviously the man has a tremendous basketball. I mean, it's going to be interesting just to hear his views, his points based on what he's seeing, being able to critique while being fake. I wonder if they're going to call him a hater when he calls somebody out, because you know, they call everybody else a hater.

And then it all depends on it. All depends on how far he goes in his assessments on players or what's going on. He's going to pick and choose the way he wants to commentate and analyze as well. He might not want to put himself in position where he has to critique people in that manner, the way most analysts and putters. Charles Barkley does. I think it's gonna be funny. It's gonna be funny.

I just wanna hear him with his take. Because I think the thing is that a lot of times people think the greater you are at something, the more opinionated and easier it is. But we know from football, some of the greatest guys that have ever played the game can't talk about the game. And it's funny how that works because a lot of times like bodybuilding, I'm a big bodybuilder fan.

A lot of times bodybuilders can train themselves, but they can't train somebody else. That's me. So, I'm really anxious to see and to hear Jordan, his critique and his analysts of the game and players in today's game. Yeah, me too. But I do, I do, I expect for it to be blunt.

I'll get out your, I expect for him to really tell it how it is because maybe he'll draw the analysis as far as like when back when he played in today's game. But I know he don't like that three. Yeah, I know he has a three ball. So yeah, I'm excited too, man. I think it's going to be fun because it's a whole generation, especially today, who never even got a chance to see him play.

So. Or heard him speak. Yeah, or even heard him speak. So yeah, I think this is going to be great for the basketball world for sure. He different. I mean, if you've never been around him. He talked about everything.

I'm talking, bro, I'm talking about from what you got on. You play cards. I mean, there ain't nothing that he ain't talking ish about. And he want to bet gamble on everything. How long is it you get from point A to point B? Man, come on, dude, I just I'm just here, man. Hey, how y'all do? Hi, everybody. But I ain't I ain't coming to bet no money, man. Hey, he's a very like I said, I mean,

seeing him on television, don't do him justice. You got to see the person to get a sense and a feel of who and what this man is. I've never seen anything like it. Yeah, it's different, bro. It's different. I ain't gonna lie to you. Look, I had a pleasure to be around him on numerous occasions and I just kind of sat back and watched. You know, I didn't ask a lot of questions on K.O. Joe. We had things we would do in the summer, whether it was bringing Jordan athletes, taking vacations together, us just meeting up, hanging out.

And every time, bro, I would just be like, just watch him. Just trying to pick up any and everything because as he's talking, he's giving game at the same time. You know, he take us out to eat and we sit there and we talking. He'll tell you, you know, hey, look, man, all you gotta do is average five to six points a quarter, man. That's 20, 24 points a game.

Like it ain't easy. I mean, it ain't hard. You know, we make the game hard, but he broke it down to a size, you know, and had the work ethic to prove it. But yeah does he seem does he seem real? No it really didn't a lot of times because okay Ocho that's who you know as a kid I grew up watching you know watching all them Bulls game like I said they played on WWGN or something like that I know we had that channel they was on almost every every night. So for me, he was like a hero, bro.

It was like he wasn't even real. So to get the opportunity to rep the Jordan brand and be a part or to be in that circle, like that was, I can't even describe it, bro. We had such a great time. But yeah, he didn't seem real. He didn't seem real. He doesn't.

Oh Joe, I'm telling, listen, I've met talk to Denzel face to face, had a conversation. Samuel Jackson, Oprah. I saw Victoria, David Beckham. I mean, I've seen some of the biggest stars in the world. I've never seen anybody. It's like he levitating. I'm like he don't ultra I'm mad this man glowing. You remember how Bruce Leroy, how he was glowing? Showing up. Yes, oh I swear. And I'm not going to be blasphemous, but boy, if you ever met him,

but Ocho, if you think about it, every athlete that ever meet him says the exact same thing about him. So I thought it was just me. I was like, well, you know, hey, I'm just, I'm in the league. I made a couple of Pro Bowls, Ocho, I'm an all-Pro. I'm a pretty good player.

So I'll say, well, you know, man, I'm starstruck. I'm... But then I hear people that's Hall of Famers and won championships feel the exact same way. I said, okay. I ain't... It ain't no bulljab. No, he for real. I mean, and like I said, he different because I'm saying, you know, you think he gonna be like, hey man, how you doing? Bro, you just met me. You talking ish I'm from the get. Yeah. I said oh my goodness. But like yeah, you gotta I've never met Tiger

so I don't know how that'll be but I can't imagine I can't imagine it'll be I can't imagine it'll be I can't imagine it'll be I can't imagine it'll be I can't imagine it'll be I can't imagine Tiger so I don't know how that'll be but I can't imagine I can't imagine it'd be the only thing I probably could compare it to would probably be the other MJ the OG MJ Michael Jackson that's probably

the only thing that I can compare it to because Mike was the only one that people people pay all that money to go to the concert and don't watch it cutting pain The man come out there just staying and people just faint So that I think that would probably be the only thing comparable to it I had to forward to the meeting Jay-Z and Beyonce Like I said, I've met you know big big big Had a conversation with Jeff Bezos.

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He joked like, he just, as a matter of fact, I'm trying to think, when the All-Star game was in LA, he had a party and I got an invite. And you couldn't drive because they was at one of them Bel Air mansions and so you had to you drive you drove and they had bus and shuttles to pick you up and take you I mean the mansion this place probably 50,000 square foot and the thing is like I mean you know they had crab legs, lobster, all the stuff, but they had it like on a conveyor belt. So the plates were coming around, Ocho coming.

Oh, yeah. I fooled you. I fooled you. I fooled you. I fooled you. I fooled you. I fooled you. I fooled you.

I'm like, I was like, man, what a food. They was like, oh, it's getting ready to come out. I was like, okay. I'm like, man, what a food. They say, oh, it's getting ready to come out. I'm like, okay. I'm like, so I walk a little further and there it is. On a conveyor belt. Now he is like in a little back room, you know, hold up, he's, you know, smoking his cigars, you know, he gonna be on them cigars now.

Hey, hey, Ocho, there ain't nothing like the brand Jordan parties during All-Star weekend. I was... That's what it was. Yeah, so I had the luxury to be a seven time All-Star, so I was a brand Jordan athlete that entire time. So man, they will start studying, bro. It was it. That's the place you wanted to be. So man, they will start studying, bro.

It was it. That's the place you wanted to be. Hey, look, even when I don't even go to All-Star weekends now, I got people who be hitting my phone doing All-Star weekend. You think you can give me any joy and party? I'm like, man, look. No. I mean, I don't, you know what?

I got there by, I got there by half an hour. As a matter of fact, to this day day I still don't know how I got in because somebody sent the thing to my phone. They sent, they did. They sent the thing to my phone. I don't even know how they got my number. I was like, is this for real? Hey.

Oh, it was off the chain, Ocho. I ain't gonna lie to you. It was off the chain. Hey Joe. I ain't gonna lie to you. It was off the chain. Hey, I gotta meet George, man. I gotta see if he can really talk. I gotta see if he can talk. Hey, you got, you paid. I gotta see if he can talk.

J know I'm gonna go at him, Joe. Hey, you gonna have to take nightcap to All-Star weekend. I gotta go at him, Joe. But you really think you would've done something with me? Huh? I would've had that 23. I would have had that 23, I would have had that 23 looking like 32. Hey, he gonna be like, we can do that right now.

But let me tell you what he gonna do. He said, I got a million cash right now. Let's go play the level. I tell you, for his million, for his million, I got 5200. Are you gonna pay this? Hey, because he, the way he, cause the way he bet, the way he bets on you,

he gonna bet whatever's gonna make you feel uncomfortable. Hey, listen, and you know what? I live my life being a, I've gotten comfortable being uncomfortable. So that's not gonna work with me. Yeah, dog, when that man say a million, see, I don't know. I ain't, I ain't.

I've seen a million dollars cash. That's fine. And I ain't really trying to do anything for a million dollars cash. I ain't trying to shoot no one shot. I ain't trying to play no pool. I ain't trying to play no ice hockey. I ain't trying to play no Madden.

It's a whole different ball game. You notice like in the World Series of Poker, when it gets down to the final table, what they do, Ocho, they bring that eight million, that 10 million dollars line of cash and they put it on when it gets down to the final table, what they do, Ocho, they bring that $8 million, that $10 million cash and they put it on the table. Yeah. Just imagine, Ocho, they your salary.

They put your whole salary up there. They said, okay, now, win this game, you get that. If you don't, we take it. Yeah, I like it. I like it. Listen, I like my chances one on one, anything right now with him, with Jordan right now. I don't.

Be honest with yourself. I don't, I would put my million on him, that way I don't. Matter of fact, say, are you sure? Joe, who you got right now? A horse, shoot around one on one, me or Jordan? I got Jordan. You know, hey Mike, if you see this, make it happen. Make a lot of yourself.

Hey Joe, hey Joe, I think me and you could get a lot of credit. We might need to get some more money. Mike, I love you baby. Make a lot of yourself. How about your boy, man? We get a lot of, Joe, I think we get a lot of credit and make us some money, make us some quick money.

We right. And Mike, with all due respect, how about your boy, man? Let's do something, man. I need to prove myself to these folk now. A Kentucky mom is speaking out after her eight-year-old son unknowingly ordered 30 boxes of dumb, dumb lollipops on Amazon, racking up a $4,200 charge.

She discovered her son, Liam, had placed an order on Amazon over 70,000 Dum Dums. After discovering the order, Lefavor said she immediately called Amazon. She was instructed to reject delivery to initiate refund. The family stayed home to intercept the package, but despite traffic tracking the delivery in on the app The first 22 boxes showed up without notice Liam went outside to ride the scooter and started screaming my suckers are here She said there were 22 boxes of suckers on the front. Hey How Liam know how to order something I don't is one thing about it though You can tell you can tell you can tell the ethnicity of a group like this

when kids order that kind of stuff. Because if it was me, and I ordered something off my grandma or my mama, my mama card without them knowing, $4,200. Man. First of all, ain't nobody had no credit card. I ain't had no credit card till I was a senior in college. So damn sure ain't nobody had no credit card. I ain't had no credit. I ain't had no credit card till I was a senior in college.

So damn sure ain't nobody had no credit. I didn't know what no credit card was. You know how young he gotta be? He's excited about ordering suckers. He's a little kid. He's eight years old. So that mean he went in his mama purse. He ain't got no credit card for himself.

He didn't win and got a card and order stuff online. Man, you know where I would be at? Man, CPS would have had to come get me, man. Am I there? They had to come get me. No, I ain't gonna call cause they gonna kidnap me and beat me again. I ain't calling. I ain't calling. Hey, they would have had to come get 70,000 dumb dumb. Hey, 4200. Can you imagine get you. 70,000 dum-dums. Hey, 4,200, unk?

Can you imagine back then, back when we was young, all the 4,200 worth of- What? Bro. On they card back then. Do you know how much 40, and look and see how much $4,200 is in the price of inflation right now. It's gotta be like 20,000.

Man, listen, I told you. Just go, Hella. Eight years old, so that'd have been $76. It's gotta be $15, $20,000. I don't, it don't matter what it is. We didn't have it, I know that. We didn't have it. We didn't have it.

So I'm calling Child Protective, Child Services for me. CPS on yourself. Hey, do me a favor. Please come get me for my mom and my grandma. Get home, please. I don't want no problems. We see it. Yeah.

1976, $4,200. I'm going to go to the house. You're worth $34,000. $34,000 now. Boy, I'm going to die. There ain't no way. And here lies the boy. That's a house. You know, I'm like 34,000. You could have bought a house for $34,000 back then. Absolutely, a nice house too at that.

A good car was like $3,000, $2,500, $3,000? Oh no, I don't play around with that, man. You could look. My grandma, hey boy, go bring me my purse and don't go in it. Hey, ain't no, ain't no, hey, she ain't say, hey, go get this, bring me my purse. Cause you know,

might had to sneak me a couple of quarters up out of there. Cause you know, back then people kept change in a handkerchief. It wasn't a loose change in the bottom of my grandma purse or that side, they kept change in a handkerchief. So. My grandma had a little change, my little change, the little change pouch.

The change first. Oh Joe, you remember the thing that you squeeze and you put your change in the side, the little squeezy thing? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was rubber. It was like rubber, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You used to give them at school.

Here you go. I hope you get them at school. Here you go. I hope you put some money in it cause I ain't got no money to put in it. Just have it in my pocket. I ain't got no money. But there was a lady pulled over. She was swerving. Come to find out she had a suspended license.

Tag was suspended. When they arrived to the window, there was a raccoon had a meth pipe in his mouth. He said, it ain't mine. It's hers she just passed it off to me. Wait it's a lady she was swerving her license suspended and she has suspended tags so the police pulled her over. When they get to the car there's a raccoon she had the paperwork all the documentation because you have to have documentation for wild animal like that. He was on the passenger seat

and he had a mouth pipe in his mouth. They got to be somewhere in the country, boy. And it ain't none of us either. Ohio. Ohio. Hey. This ain't lived down the street from Jordan. Hey, as long as it wasn't Cincinnati.

And I could imagine, I could just picture that right now too. I could just picture it. Raccoon said it wasn't his. Hey, that's funny. I take him at his word. Did she go to jail? Yeah, she got suspended license. I guess that'd count somebody to come get the raccoon.

Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, cause you can't, I mean, certain states will allow you to have them, but you have to have the proper paperwork. Yeah, you can domesticate them, but you do, you're right, you do gotta have the paperwork. All right, we got the video, we got the video. Let's see the video. Oh. Hey. What? Come here. Hello? The raccoon has her meth pipe. Oh my god. Her meth pipe.

He's playing with the meth pipe right now. No, don't reach for it. That's evidence now. I don't want him to have that. Well, that's why I'm gonna do it. Hey, buddy. Huh? It's okay. Okay, you're on two beer and two minutes. I'm right across from my office. Is that what that is?

Yeah. This is what she's smoking meth in. Okay. The raccoons playing with her meth pipe. Alright. Should have got a cop's episode with her meth pipe. Right. Should have started a cops episode. Hey, that seemed like a cops episode. I mean, he laughing, talking about the meth pipe,

the raccoon, he not taking the job too serious. That's a good one. No, I mean, at that point in time, I mean, it ain't nothing, and I guess they ended up finding some, I think, it's been reported that they found other contraband in the car also. Okay. Yeah, she a little older too, but she on the back end.

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