Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: 49ers frustrated, Mahomes vs. Brady, Unc & Ocho's heartbreaks

Episode Date: February 6, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers complaining about the conditions of their practice field at UNLV, Mahomes says he isn't close to passing Tom Brady in the GOAT debate, Kliff Kingsbury getting hired by the Washington Commanders, LeVeon Bell saying he wants to return to the Pittsburgh Steelers, and much more! 00:00 - Introduction05:00 - 49ers frustrated with field21:40 - Mahomes' GOAT case40:00 - Commanders hire Kliff Kingsbury53:00 - Can Belichick relate to young players?1:14:00 - Unc & Ocho's heartbreaks #Club #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Nightcap, Unk and Ocho. 49ers believe, get into the football, 49ers believe practice field is giving them an unfair advantage. The 49ers are trying to figure out where they'll practice this week after finding the surface at UNLV far softer than they expected.

The university has a pair of artificial surface fields that last week were overlaid with natural grass, but because there's no surface place between the artificial turf and the new sod, the fields had a sponge-like feel. The athletic road, the 49ers were so unhappy

that they initially considered flying back from Vegas following Monday night's media event and practicing in Santa Clara before the game, but have since backed off that plan. Tonight, Roger Goodell, Commissioner Goodell, maintained that the NFL has deemed the field playable despite the 49ers' concern.

First of all, guess what? NFL officials, you're not playing. Y'all don't put no cleats on. So this is because you said, oh, it's playable. What about the players? What about the coaches that's going to be on there and are expecting

a certain type of surface in order to be able to practice on? Now, we don't want to use that as an excuse, but I think in a situation like this,

Ocho, you want to make sure both teams are at their best. And the last thing you want is the one team to feel like we have an unfair advantage because the surface that we're practicing on is not adequate or is not appropriate or as close as to the service that we're going to be playing on come Sunday.

So hopefully everybody gets this thing worked out. And the 49ers say, you know what? Hey, it is what it is. Let's go make the best of it. But I just don't like the fact that the commissioner just came out and said they have deemed it. Let me ask you a question. Who put on cleats and went out there and tested it? Right.

I mean, listen, it's obviously it's unfortunate. I think about how you and I grew up. I think about the plan surfaces that we had to deal with. I think about the playing surfaces that I had to deal with playing throw up tackle at Charles Hadley Park, playing throw up tackle at Moore Park down in Liberty City. And to think about how happy I was to play on those surfaces with holes and divots and then and all type of sprinkler heads coming up. And obviously, I know you expect once you make it to the highest level, you want everything to be perfect. with holes and divots and then and all type of sprinkler heads coming up and obviously I know you expect once you make it to the highest level you want everything to be perfect and sometimes any little inconvenience or it's an

issue or the plan service is too small or or just like I and I get it obviously it's a Super Bowl so you you I don't think it's an unfair advantage now my you know we've been playing football for 19 weeks. We've been playing the game of football for 19 weeks. Now, we're grown men, and at the smallest inconvenience, we can't let the smallest thing be inconvenienced. We know what to do. We know we're going to be playing on Bermuda grass.

That is very fast when it comes to game time. And a little inconvenience with the service not being what you're used to it being shouldn't be that much of an inconvenience for you. You want to think about flying back home, you know, as opposed to going out there and practicing. Like, come on now. That's just me. Everybody else might be different. That's just me. based on where I came from and what I grew up having to do, something like the field being a little different than what I'm used to wouldn't inconvenience me when I know the work I got to get in

as far as coming and preparing for a game. Let's just say for the sake of argument. To me, it's nitpicking. You were the Bengals. And all of a sudden, I understand that you grew up playing on those fields, and all of a sudden, the Bengals had to go play on that field. You okay with that? You dodging sprinkler heads, divots,

bottles? I see where you're going, but that's very dramatic. You said, what did you just say how you grew up playing on the sprinkler heads and dodging those? I'm going to say concrete, all that stuff. But I'm saying, even though it's at the highest level, it isn't that much

of inconvenience because the field is a little soft. Like, it's just come on now. Everything can be perfect. Let me ask you a question. Why did you celebrate? Because in your mind, it gave you advantage. You needed to be Ocho. You wore your uniform a certain way. And when the NFL told you to change your

uniform, what did you say, Ocho? No. Why did you say no, Ocho? It ain't nothing but a little minor inconvenience. All it did was ask you to tuck your jersey. All they did was ask you to put the towel on one side, not the other. Would ask you to pull your socks up. So why was that such a problem for you? Because, you know, when you look good, you play good.

And I wanted to dress the same way I dressed when I was a little shorty. And I wasn't changing that no matter how much money you took from me, because that's not what I value. Oh, so in other words, the 49ers want to be practicing on the field that's going to be similar to what they played on if asking a bit too much hey i mean i'm just a small example of how i feel about it i don't care if they had i don't care if they had my black ass out there on muffin ice i'm finna go practice and be ready for goddamn sunday but i'm just trying to say but you wasn't willing to do that with your uniform but you expect them to be able to do that at the Super Bowl.

This wasn't the Super Bowl. They said, Ocho, we need you to correct your uniform. They asked you to do this for a regular game or preseason game. And your mind wouldn't allow you to do that because you didn't feel if you changed anything about your uniform, you couldn't be Ocho. Right. That's exactly how I felt. And I understand where you're going with it, but I think

that's apples and oranges. It's kind of different. Have you ever seen a fruit basket? Huh? Have you ever seen a fruit basket? They put apples and oranges in there. And pears, too, sometimes. And some grapes. And some plums. But I understand. I understand

their issue. Obviously, this is the biggest game and you want everything to be as perfect as possible in your preparation for a game of this magnitude. I'm just saying, for me, I ain't really giving a fuck about no goddamn surface, boy. Man, I'm like, man, let's get this practice on, man. Let's go to work.

Now, I have played on the field. Let's not make any excuses, because if they lose, now what's the first thing you do? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Because once you start playing on it, you get acclimated to it. It's less than ideal. Normally what we did, Ocho, if we had a great, I mean, like we're going to play on turf.

We might practice Friday on the turf. But we were saving our legs on Wednesdays and Thursdays. And then Friday we would practice on turf to we might practice friday on the turf but we were saving our legs on uh wednesdays and thursdays and then friday we would practice on turf to get our bodies used to it because you don't run routes the same way on turf turf as you do grass so that was the way that was the way dan did it that's the way mike did it did it uh uh when he got there is that we would get some get some uh um get some turf because that turf different man now they don't have the turf like we used to have back in the day we had that concrete we had we had carpet over concrete that was a different type of turf and when you left there you had

strawberries you had rug burns your knees hurt everything hurt because that was a pounding like you said you played on concrete that's exactly what you played on when you played at the vet or you played at the Astrodome or you played at some of these stadiums that had turf. That was terrible. Now, in the preseason one year, I think it was 2001, that the field was so bad. I don't know if it was called the LinkedIn in Philadelphia

or it was still the vet stadium, but the stadium was deemed, the NFL deemed it unplayable. Really? That's how bad it was. Yeah, it was awful. stadium was deemed the NFL deemed it unplayable. That's how bad it was. Yeah. It was, it was awful. It was awful. Somebody was going to get hurt.

Damn. Somebody go get hurt. Yeah. Long before they changed it though. Well, we didn't play, we didn't play, we didn't play that game.

I think they worked some things out because it was, I mean, you would go one place and then there was a divot about that deep, but the carpet was there. So you, I mean, you, somebody was going to get hurt. Right. Right. Somebody's going to get hurt. Now I know you don't probably remember this, but Wendell Davis, he jumped up and caught a pass and he tore both of his, uh, I think he's from Chicago. He ended up tearing both of his ACLs. Whoa.

No, he ripped both of his patellas, not his ACL. And tore both of his patella tendons at the vet well that's crazy i ain't never heard of that and and obviously needless to say his career was over so i i agree i understand um in situations like that sometimes you can mentally create a ghost that's really not there. I understand what you're used to and if I was reading correctly Ocho, the grass was grown in, they had robotics and they've

been, this grass here has been monitored and it's supposed to be special and it's being flown in, especially for the Super Bowl. Now, it's going to be interesting I it's being flown in especially for the Super Bowl. Now, it's going to be interesting. I don't think they're going to have I don't think Allegiant has

a retractable roof. It's not like SoFi or Arizona. You remember Arizona has a retractable also. So it was a little slick because you remember guys were slipping early last year in the game. It's

don't. So it's not retractable, right? Okay. It's not retractable. But look, you made it this far and I don't believe the field is going to determine who's going to win this ball game. No, no. But again, when something like this happens,

somebody makes it not an excuse. Somebody has a gripe about something, my team itself. I guarantee you, if things don't work out come game time, somebody is going to say, well, you know what? We were at a disadvantage because when we, when it was time to practice, we, we didn't have the feel, the adequate surface playing surface similar to that that that we would be on Sunday to work with during the week. I guarantee you always they will find something. Always.

I don't even like the fact that somebody even said anything. I think we were very fortunate in Ocho because when we played we got the Chargers facility which was in La Jolla which was amazing. We got the Dolgers facility, which was in La Jolla, which was amazing. We got the Dolphins facility, which

was in Davie, which was amazing. But when we went to the Super Bowl in Tampa, the Giants got the Bucs facility and we got South Florida facility. So you can understand that the difference in between an NFL facility and a college

facility. Especially back then. NFL facility and a college facility. Especially back then. You think about a college facility. If you talk about Alabama or Michigan or Ohio State, something like that, okay, fine. But when you talk about South Florida, Ocho, they ain't got no $100 million athletic budget.

Right, right, right. But look, it didn't matter. We could have played them jokers in a late. The Giants wasn't going to beat that defense. You see the attitude you have, though? You see that mindset you have? That's the mindset that I would love for all players to have. I would love for whoever the captains are for the 49ers to say,

whatever officials or personnel with the 49ers to say whoever officials or personnel with the 49ers complain about a field. I would love for everyone to understand, man, man, fuck that. Man, we got work to do. Man, let's get this work done. We can't get about no goddamn field. You know what we've been through to even get to this point? Forget

just the NFL, just in general, the playing conditions, the obstacles that we had to overcome to get here, you think we crying about some goddamn field? Man, blow the whistle, man. Let's work. That's just, again, my mentality and my mindset. I just hated when it was raining.

I was sure hoping that Coach U sometime would call practice off when it started raining, but that never happened. Never. Never. Or when it was snowing, or when it was cold, I'd be like, damn, it's cold out here. But I will say this, when it

got really, really cold in Baltimore, Ocho, Brian Billing had heated seats out there for us. Yeah. So, what our defense, if it's number one defense and it's going against the scout team offense, the start, no, on the hot seats, just like you was at a game.

Mike Chattain was playing that bull. J. Reed was playing that bull, John. Man, you had to. I'm talking about this cold. Now, you know it get cold in Denver, not. Get real cold. Oh, yeah. And snow.

And guess what? Offensive linemen, all of them, always went out in shorts. No matter how cold it was. Hey, did your linemen do that too? What about with no sleeves? On game day, they had a rule, no linemen wore sleeves. No, no, you couldn't wear sleeves. Yeah, I never understood that.

Now, I didn't wear sleeves when it was cold because I need to be able to feel the ball up against me. Nah, I ain't one of them jokers holding. Huh? I ain't one of them jokers holding. Because you know they're going to hold that and something for them to grab onto. You ain't got no choice, especially when it's cold.

And if you're playing on a slick surface, you always want that advantage of being able to grab to be able to maintain your leverage. Yep. And so, like, even when I put on Vaseline, I never put it all the way. I just put it on the outside of my arms because I was going to have the ball inside the landing I need to have that thing slip out. So, the Vaseline. I never put it all, I just put it on the outside of my arms because I was going to have the ball inside

and the last thing I need is to have that thing slip out. So Vaseline only went on, I never put it on. You always had somebody, the equipment guy, put it on for you, but he never put it, never went above, you know, on the sides or up underneath. And I didn't, you know, and I didn't really, I just wore

a cut off and I didn't, I couldn't wear a bunch of clothes. No, I feel restricted, Un know, and I didn't really, I just wore cut off and I didn't, I couldn't, I couldn't wear a bunch of clothes. No, I feel restricted, Unc. I did too. I did too. I feel restricted. I hate that. I hate the feeling of being, feeling restricted.

Another, it's a crazy thing. People laughing at me. I tweeted, I'm off topic just a tad bit to give you a little tidbit on how weird I was when it came to playing. I was Reebok during my day right i had reebok take all the insulation out of my shoe all the insulation out of a shoe i didn't want any cushion i didn't want any ankle support i didn't want anything all i wanted was the the the cleat i want the bottom cleat and then put the shell around it and some shoelaces. Right. So I wanted my cleats to feel like I had a track spike on.

I need to feel the ground. I need to feel the ground. Anytime I wore tape, the tape was just more so for fashion. I hate my feet feeling restricted. I need to touch the floor and feel it as if I was wearing track spikes. When it came to wearing an undershirt, I ain't wear nothing. I just put my shoulder pads on and then I put my jersey on. Yeah. I always

had to cut off. And then, you know, obviously we gutted our pants. We were one of the first team to wear no pads. I mean, most of us had no pads. They were like spandex. But I needed to be free. And so, what Ed McCaffrey

did exactly what you did, he would cut all the inside out of his shoes. And then, you know, Eddie's shoulder pads were smaller than the kickers. His pads were like this. His shoulder was out.

Yeah. His arms, man, he was yoked up, man. That's the one thing I remember about Ed McCaffrey having them big ass arms with them little ass shoulder pads. Yeah.

Like, is it Martellus Bennett? They used to do that? Yeah big ass arms with them little ass shoulder pads. Yeah. Like, is it Martellus Bennett that used to do that? Yeah. Remember Martellus Bennett's shoulder pads? Yep. Like he had on some little high school shoulder pads. Yep. That's how Ed was. I needed to be, the first person that I ever saw wear no pads in their pants was Ricky Jackson. So I want to give Ricky Jack credit

because we stole it from him. He was the first person that I ever saw that had no pads, no thigh pads, no heel pads, no knee pads. And I just looked so cool. And then I'm like, man. So we started, I was like, hey, because you know, you can get Ed McCaffrey

to do anything. I said, Ed, I think we'd be light if we did it. He's like, you think so? You think so, Sharpie? I was like, yeah. So Ed and I gutted it. And then everybody else started gutting their pants. And Frank Gore took it to another level. He was running

back with no thigh and knee pants. I was like, oh, hell no. And then had his pants all the way up above his knee at that. Yes! With no ankles, with no tape on his ankles, just out there balling. Yeah. Oh, man. But yeah,

so hopefully everything has been resolved. I'm sure the 49ers have had a conversation with the NFL. balling. Oh, man. Hopefully, everything has been resolved. I'm sure the 49ers have had a conversation with the NFL. The NFL has gotten the field up to playing conditions what's adequate for those guys. On Sunday, hopefully, everybody's in the right frame of mind to go out there and give the

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tonight that he didn't think he was even close to halfway what Brady has accomplished in the NFL. The goal is to be the best player you can. I've been blessed to have a lot of great players around me, and now is doing whatever I can to beat a great 49ers team and try to get a lot of great players around me, and now is doing whatever I can to beat a great 49ers team and try to get a third ring. You ask me the question like

15 years, and I'll see if I can get close to seven. Seven seems like a long ways away. Does Mahomes need seven rings to be the GOAT? I mean, when you think about it, I think what he's done so far, there's a reason he's even in the conversation.

Because of what he's been able to do in such a short amount of time. Now, if they're able to keep that team together, obviously the pieces are going to change at time due to money and players wanting to leave due to the success that they're going to have. has and the ability to draft, the ability to attract free agents because Patrick Mahomes is there, they will always be able to continue to have success offensively and defensively. So I think there's a chance that this can continue. And I think the Kansas City Chiefs are going to have the exact same type of run with Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid being together that Bill Belichick and Tom Brady had, I think they're going to have the same exact type of run. I would really like it even more so if Trav was in year six

as opposed to year 11 or 12. Right, right, right. Because you look at Mahomes in year seven, how many more years do you think Trav is going to be able to play at the level that he's playing at? Right. And so at some point in time, he eventually will start to slow down. Now, to be able to try to replace him, because think about it,

Brady won some Super Bowls, and this is not a knock on him, Christian Poirier, he had Wiggins, he had a couple of guys that wasn't Gronk. Right. But he did have Gronk from, you know, when he started winning the second half, 2014, stuff like that. They went in against the Rams. They went in against the Legion of Boom.

He goes to Tampa. So, but for me personally, I don't think he needs seven to become the GOAT. No? You don't think so? seven to become the GOAT no you don't think so? because I think the thing is we got to look at the total body of work what he would excuse me what Tom was able to do

is that Tom got all the records so let's just say for the sake of argument, Mahomes gets five. Right. But he has more passing yards, more passing touchdowns. Okay.

More regular season MVPs. Right. Because it can be most ring because people say Jordan is the goat and he doesn't have the most rings. He doesn't have the most regular season MVPs. He doesn't have the most points. He doesn't have the most rebounds. He doesn't have the most assists. He doesn't have the most points. He doesn't have the most rebounds. He doesn't have the most assists.

He doesn't have the most blocks. He doesn't have the most steals. So it can't be just the quality of, but it's the total, the people believe Jordan is the GOAT because you look at, okay, MVPs in the postseason, he has six. MVPs in the regular season, he has five.

And his level of play, well, so if you look at Patrick Mahomes, there's a chance that he might be five for five also. He might only win five Super Bowls. But the likelihood of someone else being the MVP isn't very good. Now, it could happen. I was there, Pacheco might have one of those

Ricky Smith type days, and he goes for 200 plus yards. But even when Smith ran for 200 yards, Doug Williams was the MVP because he had over 300 and threw for four touchdowns. Because it's still a passing lead. Now, the likelihood of a running back, when was the last time

a running back won the MVP in the Super Bowl? You got to go back. Oh, TD? Maybe it was a TD? In 1997? I'm trying to think of another running back that won it. Because when Willie Parker had that day, Hines Ward won the MVP. Won the MVP, yeah. Hines had a hell of a team. So I'm trying to figure out, running back that won it because when Willie Parker had that day, Heinz Ward won the MVP. Won MVP, yeah.

Heinz had a hell of a team. So I'm trying to figure out, I think his TD might have been the last running back to win the MVP. Yeah, probably. If it's a Super Bowl MVP. It was TD. Think about it.

That's 25, that's 26 years ago. Yeah, you got to have a hell of a performance as a running back to actually get that award. Yeah. Yeah, he had 157 in three TDs and he missed a hell of a performance as a running back to actually get that award. Yeah. Yeah, he had 157 in three TDs, and he missed a quarter of football. Mm. So, like I said, the way they've changed the rules now, Ocho. Yeah.

It's going to be hard for a running back. Unless he goes out there and have a Derrick Henry, a 250-yard game, it's going to be hard for a running back to win the MVP. Listen, and obviously he's not that style of back, but if you're that type of back, if Pacheco was that type of back that can hit his head off the goal post from anywhere on the field like a Chris

Johnson type. Yeah. Oh, Christian McCaffrey's in play though, Ojo. Christian McCaffrey's in play because he can run it and catch it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He's definitely in play. He's definitely in play though, Joe. Christian McCaffrey is in play because he can run it and catch it. He's definitely in play. He's definitely in play for the Super Bowl MVP. I believe he has probably the

third best odds behind Mahomes, Purdy, and he's next. If any running back is going to win it, the best chance is it going to be this year with C-Mac because he can do it all. Yeah.

He can have 100 yards rushing. He can have 100 yards receiving. And he's a touchdown machine. Mm-hmm. So if anybody's going to, if any running back is going to do what, the last person to do what TD did for the Broncos in Super Bowl 32, it's going to be C-Mac.

Yeah, because he's so damn versatile. So versatile. So versatile. So versatile. Mooney Ward spoke about handling this week before the Super Bowl. He said, well, the Super Bowl is in Vegas, so it might turn up a little bit the first day or two out there. But after that, it's really just focus. Who does he play for?

What? Oh, I don't know him. The whole week is really like a movie you're gonna see celebrities everywhere no you're not you do understand and this is what we told this is what we told the guys hold on right you do realize the festivities is for the people that's coming right to the soup bowl the game is for you that's the only thing for you yeah yeah right he said the pregame you might see jay-z beyonce Kevin Hart. You probably will. But still, the game at the end of the day, we still got to go out there and try to win, especially the Super Bowl. You know that you don't want to F that up in the Super Bowl.

And that's it. All the festivities that's going on and everybody will be having these parties. And, you know, first of all, you know what Vegas represents minus the Super Bowl. So now you bring the Super Bowl, the biggest event in North America, the biggest sporting event in North America. So basically you got a 5X, 6X, 7X. Yeah. The Super Bowl and Vegas. You know what the Super Bowl is like in Miami.

You know what the Super Bowl is like in New Orleans. You know what the Super Bowl is like in different places. Now add Vegas to the mix. So you already know it's on one. Yeah, most definitely. But it ain't for you. Yeah, at all. I think, what, the first two days

they get to enjoy themselves, right? Yeah, we got down there on a... I mean, we got down on a Sunday. We had curfew at 1 o'clock. So we got curfew at 1 o'clock and So we got curfew at 1 o'clock and then we got a Sunday. So you had curfew at 1 o'clock Sunday. You had, I think at like 1130, maybe

midnight on Monday and then you was on a regular schedule. Wednesday on? Wednesday? Okay, okay. I think, you know, especially for those that haven't been there. Oh, Money Ward is Travarius Ward. Oh.

I was like, who that? Why did you just put his name in anyway? Man, I don't know how to call it. Man, call it. Okay. But when we doing it, you got to understand, Ash, we speaking to people at home

that's not his teammates. And that's what I have to, you know, like I'm saying, we call people by their nickname because everybody on the team got a nickname, Ocho. And people are like, who are you talking about? You know what? I didn't even know who you were talking about.

I didn't know who you were talking about because you didn't say Trevarius Ward. Yeah, Trevarius. So I guess what I'm saying, like Money Ward. Who is Money Ward? Oh, that's his nickname. Yeah. That's what everybody called him. Everybody on the team might call him that. Yeah, but I ain't know.

Who do you call to that? Oh, Lord have mercy. Listen, that shit, the way he been goddamn playing, he can go ahead and enjoy himself. It'll be money. He definitely been balling out of his mind. But yeah, that's the thing, Ocho. I think the thing is you go ahead and you get it out your system.

Right. I don't know. I'm trying to think. Because they're out the strip. And so the NFL, they got these resorts that's really, really nice, that's inclusive. And so, hey, I don't think the NFL really want those players, the 49ers and the Chiefs, coming to the strip and doing anything.

I don't care if you're playing a little $5 hand of blackjack or anything else. They don't want any cross-contamination. Right. So they're probably advising them. Maybe they got a little situation set up at their hotel. You can play blackjack. You can play roulette.

You can play craft. You got a couple of slot machines. You can do all the stuff that you would normally do on the strip. Right. You just do it here. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. Even if you have all those amenities for them at your hotel, you know the boys getting out. You know them boys getting out. They getting out until it's time, especially them first two days or whatever. Yeah. However the schedule may be, if you're getting there early, I think to me, I think- Everybody got it.

Chief got there yesterday. Chief got there on Sunday. Sunday. So I know Monday we'll have a date. Maybe you have Tuesday off. Well, when you do that,

but you got to take your pictures. That's your media day. Because see, normally Ocho, Tuesday was the day, was the media day. Right. So that's when you put

your uniform on, you got your NFL, your Super Bowl patches. And you go out there, you talk to the media and that's when you put your uniform on, you got your NFL, your Super Bowl patches, and you go out there, you talk to the media, and that's when you take your Super Bowl picture. But now the media aspect is out of the way because they make that a big event. And so now you just go out there Tuesday.

I don't know, maybe you have a walkthrough or something, and you go, you know, you do what you need to. I think we had a walkthrough on Monday. I'm trying to think. We might have had a walkthrough. Man, that's been so damn long ago. Yeah, you know, the walkthrough ain't nothing but an hour or two now. Look here.

I don't know who told you what a walkthrough was, but our walkthrough was no joke. Right. Our walkthrough ain't no, I don't know who termed it that, but they needed to call ours a run through. Y'all be moving, huh? This is how we knew. We played Green Bay.

Right. And we played Atlanta. The first two days, the ball didn't hit the dirt. Y'all boy was locked in. Because see, what we did, I don't know. Look, I'm thinking like West Coast and I can speak. West Coast, we put our plate,

we put everything in the week before. So once we got to the location, it's dress rehearsal. Fastier, faster. Yeah, so you know it. Now you might add a plate here or there and come up with a specialty plate.

You might add one plate for third and one to three. Or you might have with a specialty play. You might add one play for third and one to three. Or you might have a little gadget play. You might add something. But all the heavy lifting is done back home. So when we, hey,

so when we hit that field on Wednesday to get it. Yeah. Smooth sailing. Locked in. Mike didn't have to say nothing. Right. Mike didn't have to say nothing. Right.

Brian didn't have to say nothing. Because we did the same thing. We put the thing in in Baltimore. We put the game plan in the week before we left. And so when we got there, it was just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Right. Okay. And then you watch that defense.

I'm like, Lord, have mercy. I said, boy, I felt sorry for Tiki now. I did, Ocho. I felt bad. Man, if you saw the way Raden was hunting in practice... Yeah. Y'all was thudding up back then?

No, we didn't thud up. No, no, no. But you could tell the way they was focused. They was on everything. Every play, guys was where they was supposed to be. Right. I mean, it wasn't no, everything was contested without putting somebody on the ground. When they tried to run a comeback,

Starks, we called him Heavy. Hit, there. C-Mac, there. Right. They tried to run a seven route. The one thing, Corey Harris is one of the best guys I've ever seen at playing a seven route. He automatically if he got a whole safety

you can nod all you want to to the post. He ain't going. He running to the seven. Now if you run a cross route, you got it. He ain't bite that nod to the post. He up under that seven. Yeah.

And you know, you know, you know, D. Starks is my quarterback at B-Town at my freshman year in high school. Was he? Yeah.

And so Samari, Samari was the other receiver. And then when D. Starks left and Samari was the quarterback and Samari Rowe was a quarterback. And y'all didn't win no state championship,

did you? Nah, we didn't win no state though. We was good. Well, but y'all, so what y'all didn't win no state championship, did you? Nah, we didn't win no state though. We was good. So what y'all do with all that talent? We was good though. Matter of fact,

you know who else was there? I just forgot. Terry Cousins. Remember Terry Cousins? Yeah, I do. Yeah, Terry Cousins. And y'all didn't win no state championship?

We was all on the same team, man. I know y'all on the same team. You told me that at Beach High School in Miami. Did you win

a state championship? No, sir. Oh, I don't. I know y'all on the same team. You told me that at Beach High School in Miami. Did you win a state championship? No, sir. Oh. No, sir. We was good, though. We was good, man. We was a sight to see, man. Yeah, but that's the thing. I mean, Ocho, do you understand why you're there? Because they're going to chronicle this now.

Hey, if you go back to Super Bowl 58, somebody's going to chronicle this now. Hey, if you go back to Super Bowl 58, somebody's got to lose this game. They're going to have three people that's going to talk about it and what it was like to go through the season, the ups, the downs, the highs, the lows, and the wins. I don't know if they chronicle the Super Bowl. I don't know if they have a talk to three players on the losing team. And it was fortunate.

Unfortunately, it was fortunate for us. We won as opposed to you kind of leave at the same time and you see all the buses pull up at the airport and pull up and you know the guys going to get off the plane and you see them guys holding their head down.

We up there laughing and joking and talking and carried on talking loud. Right. That ain't a good feeling. Ooh, Ocho. I was like, man, I don't never want to feel like that. Ooh, thank you. Knock on wood, man.

God bless me. I went three times and got all three of them. Because I can just imagine. Look, I don't know how you feel about this, Ocho, but I tell people this all the time. Losing hurts more than winning feel good. And you'll always remember the losses more than you will remember the wins. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, listen, I've been through a lot of losing during my career. Obviously, being in Cincinnati, to master losing, I tried to make it as fun and entertaining as possible even though we were losing. We had a great year. My 2005 season, obviously we went 11-5 that year. Obviously, Carson went down

with that hit by the D-tackle with the Steelers at that time on the first play of the game. Yeah, Kimo. Other than that, everything was decent. I go to the Patriots. I didn't really contribute the way I Yeah, chemo. Other than that, everything was decent. I go to the Patriots. I didn't really contribute the way I would have liked to, you know, that year, but we won. And we won consistently. And getting to that Super Bowl and playing against the Giants and that feeling, you know, after losing, it was bad. You know, it was bad for me. For one, I'm not contributing the way I want to. And then on top of that, we lost the game. So it was a double me for one I'm not contributing the way I want to and then on top of that we lost the game so it was

a double whammy right and that was the second time in as many years that they had just lost they lost to the Giants in 2007 and they turn around and lose to the Giants in 2010 yeah something about the Giants I don't know what it was about them that what they just had I don't know what defense

they could get out of your quarterback without sacrificing their back end bingo and it comes down to plays He just had, I don't know what defense. They can get out of your quarterback without sacrificing their back end. Bingo. And it comes down to plays. Tom sees the whole safety. He tries to throw it to Wes' back shoulder. Wes doesn't open his hip fully all around. He drops it.

Because if he gets that, that's a first down. The ball game's over. Over, yeah. You remember the play, huh? I absolutely remember the play. And I understand why Tom Brady threw it behind him because he's worried about Wes getting blowed up by that whole safety. Oh, yeah, he was sitting right there.

He was waiting on him. Yeah, he was going to blow his ass up. But see, Ocho, that's the thing. As I analyze, you and I, we played the game. And so you understand why quarterbacks do certain things. See, when John would put the ball, like if I'm facing John, let's just say we call it a short cross. Some people call it a wall route.

If John put the ball between the eight and the four, he's telling me, Shannon, get up in your shadow. They're coming from both sides. Just turn and get straight up the field. If he put it on one side or the other, he's telling me go to that side because he can see what I can't. Right. So he's telling me,

if he put it here, I'm turning there. If he puts it here, I'm turning there. If he puts it in my chest, I'm getting up in my shadow. Now, I'm going to feel some type of way if he put it here and I turn there and do clean my damn cloth. Right.

I'm going to be looking at him like, my bad, G. Okay. But I'm saying, so you understand that. So, look, Wes, being who he is, he wasn't an undrafted player. He wasn't a rookie player. Wes Welker was one of the best. And so that's a catch that you really expect him to make. Yeah.

But I understood full well why Tom put it on his back shoulder that's safety we're gonna clean his clock and tom is very conscious of not putting his receivers in harm's way he's spoken about that about why he would throw certain balls certain ways because he didn't want the guy to get knocked out of the game. Right. But Wes couldn't come down with the ball. They have to putt and then Eli makes two incredible throws. That Minaham sideline

catch. Against two men. Woo! That was a good grab. You can't do it any better than that yeah so yeah oh cho check this out the commanders hire cliff kingsbury fire eric b enemy i don't think any surprise that eric b enemy was fired commanders fire eric b enemy after one season with the team quinn said he delivered the news to b enemy in person today we won't work together here but i

wanted him to know i really respect the work he's done. I wish him nothing but the best. They also hired Cliff Kingsbury yesterday, and people are speculating that Washington could move up to two since Cliff worked with Caleb at UFC, and Caleb is from D.C. It's possible.

Yeah. It's possible. I mean, when you want somebody bad enough, you will find a way to get up there and get them, especially when it comes to a quarterback of that magnitude who has the opportunity, I think, to actually change that franchise around. When I think about him going two,

well, who the hell is going number one? Marvin Harrison Jr.? No. Yeah, yeah. Unless they know something we don't. I think they need to move up to one in order to ensure they get caleb wayne well you're gonna have to well you had to give up a king's ransom but you're gonna have to give up a heap of shit for that oh it's gonna take at least

three ones because look at look at what san francisco gave up but san francisco it san francisco didn't have to go from 12 to 3 right But you're still going to have to give up 3-1. You're going to have to give up a couple 3s. Oh, you're going to have to give it up. But if you believe he's the guy, Kansas City,

people are like, man, they stole Patrick Mahomes now, even though they gave up 3-1s or 2 or 3. Right. And that's the hiring of Mr. Cliff. I always think about it. When you look at his resume, it's not one that jumps off the charts at you like, you know what? This is someone that we need in the building.

This is someone that can help us from a coaching standpoint and and and really always fails up i ain't never seen nobody fails up fall up as much as he did and i think you know he got the job based on relationships obviously and the people he know and when it comes to the coaching tree the coaching umbrella and the coaching family there will always be someone under that umbrella that will be willing to give you a job based on who you know that's what that's what it all comes down to it always comes down to who you know and what you know oh joe that's what i tell people this is what i've learned since i've been on the business side it's not about how much it's not about your education it's about relationships yeah yeah i read somewhere like 80 of the jobs that get filled don't get posted yeah hey ocho you know we're hiring over

here hey ash what what you looking for a job hey they hiring over here right hey i'll put you i'll put a word in for you yes sir see how that work on you every time? Every time. It's all about relationship. When they say it's not about what you know is who you know, that is 1,000. 1,000%. That's why it's very important. That's why it's very, very important, very imperative,

even those that are in the chat that are watching, it's imperative that you don't burn bridges. It's imperative that you don't burn bridges because you never know who you might meet and be rude to in life. Then later on down the road, they might not be the exact person you need, but they might be the bridge to somebody else that can say, yeah, you know what? I know so-and-so. Good dude.

So if you think about hiring him, think about hiring her, that's the route to go. Yep. Man, I ain i really never worked with ocho but man i heard a number of good things about him yeah and last i i mean i had a buddy that worked with him say man he a really hard worker on time don't cause any problems no okay they don't but he do curse he cursed he cursed too much that's about it so So, yeah. Because if you remember, think about it. Cliff got the job. Why?

Because he worked with... Who did he work with? Caleb? No. He coached Kyler. Really? Kyler Murray? In Arizona. Oh, okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. I thought you talked about... Didn't he coach... Yeah. Yeah... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know, man.

What don't you know? How to look at the resume, look at the difference in resumes. How do you not retain and bring back the enemy based on what he's accomplished so far in the NFL? Well, if you look at Ocho, if you look at it, if you look at Washington stats the previous year, they were down with the enemy. So it's not like you say, well, hey, we were the fourth best offense. We scored the seventh most points.

We had the best most first downs. I mean, so what are we hiring him based on? What are you hiring Cliff based on? I get it, Ocho, but you're asking someone to hire someone

and look, I get it. Cliff Kingsbury have fallen up a lot. And that's look, I get it. I said, Cliff Kingsbury have fallen up a lot. And that's why I said, Eric B enemy should have stayed his ass in Kansas city. He wants the opportunity to be a head coach though. I'm not going to Washington.

Rivera was going to get fired. Sam Howell is not going to win you enough games to keep that job. Oh, Joe, you got to survey the land you enough games to keep that job, Ocho. You got to survey the land. Hey, read the temperature, Ocho. Read the temperature. I mean, I heard in the offseason before the season started, this season right here, they said Sam Howell was the guy.

They said Sam Howell was the guy based on how he played the previous season. If he's the answer, what's the question you're asking? The quarterback, who's going to be the starting quarterback for the Washington football team? Or the commanders? If that's the question, if that's the answer that you gave,

okay, that's a perfect logically, that's a perfect logic, logical question. Right. Anything outside of that, Sam Mahal is not the answer. Yeah, I got you. And Airbnb should have known that. I'm going to stay my butt Right there And now look at it Ocho

Now you got Kansas City Back in the Super Bowl Again How about this Knowing Andy Reid Does Andy Reid Bring Eric B. Enemy back So they can work together again

And probably Probably will Probably going to go For a fourth one next year Yeah And maybe go for a fifth one The year after that. Red, one thing about Red, now Red, Red, Red, you know, he good people.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like Red. He very matter of fact, you know you stand with Red. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, I think BNME, he will be there next year. He will be there. I don't think Andy Reid will leave him out like that. I just hate to see a coach

that has had success with two, you know, winning two Super Bowls just out on the street like that with other coaches that aren't proven or getting jobs. Yes, I agree, Ocho.

I agree. But I have to understand. Now, think about it, Ocho. I agree. But I have to understand. Now think about it, Ocho. I'm struggling getting interviews. Like I said, I don't know what happened. Everybody says he's not interviewing well. I mean, it's hard. How does somebody not interview well?

This is the system I implement. These are some of the coaches I'm looking at higher to fill the position. This is the defensive coordinator. This is the offensive coordinator. This is my game plan. This is how I like to practice during the course of the week these are my meeting time this is lifting time i like to travel at this time i like to leave at this yada yada yada right i'm trying to that that can't be that hard especially after you do it several times you should get better at it each and every time because you kind of know what the questions they're going to ask but i just i i i don't i don't i don't i don't get me personally i'm not taking that job

why am i hold on ocho check this out now he's already on thin ice i'm on i'm on the shore right why would i go join somebody on thin ice and I'm perfectly fine over here right because now look at all the coaches that got jobs look at the black coaches that got jobs Raheem Morris Nico

yeah AP got a job Gerard Mayo got a job uh gerard mayo got a job now gerard mayo and ap situation was a little unique ap was the interim played extremely well we knew that seemed to be a foregone conclusion it seems to me that coach bellic that uh mr craft already had a succession plan already in place that when Coach Belichick left, Mayo was going to take over. He liked what he stood for. He liked the man

that he had watched him grow. But I'm not... I wish the situation with Eric would be enemy. Would have been similar to that of Antonio Pierce with the Las Vegas Raiders with the players vouching for him publicly

you know even Matt Crosby going even to the extent of saying listen if we don't bring APN or bring him back as our head coach I'm asking for a trade Wow you know and I think if the enemy was that type of coach and I see him as a player's coach, I'm not sure. The only rumblings or anything negative I heard about him obviously came from Shady McCoy. And I guess their exchange and the way he coached him, he didn't see fit on how he did. I mean, that's the only bad thing I've ever heard. And remember Tyreek, because he says something because Shady

did comment, and Tyreek re-chimed him and said, hey, you still mad because he told you to tuck that ball, huh? Because you know Shady McCoy like to hold the ball in one hand. Yeah, he does. He does. He's going to make you tuck that ball because the last thing you want to do is turn the ball over in situations like that.

that's what... that ball because the last thing you want to do is turn the ball over in situations like that so um that's what we don't i wasn't there so i couldn't speculate uh shady has his reason why he doesn't believe that eb has become a head coach yet right i don't know what there are i haven't been in any of those meetings i haven't heard any ownership group or anybody that could possibly be in those meetings say anything. So I don't want to speculate either way if you ask me. But that's what he said. Reports are saying Mike Brayboy didn't work

out in Tennessee because he was too large of a human. Diana Rossini reported I don't think there was a fit for him. I don't think he sat in front of any owner who thought of his style was going to work for what they were looking for. I had a GM at the Senior Bowl who mentioned to me

Braybill's physical build that he's a very large human being and that can be very intimidating to people in the organization that's going to be a part of these decisions and that is a factor. What the hell does somebody Andre Desjardins? Can he win games? Rest in soul, Andre. That is a factor. What the hell does somebody... I'll give it to Andre the Giant.

Can he win games? Rest in soul, Andre. What the hell does someone's physical appearance have to do with being a coach? He was too big, and you know, if he get mad, he might do something bad to him. The type of excuses of the people that run these organizations, how do they take you seriously?

Do you really want to win? No. When you hear stuff like that, you think about serious? Do you really want to win? No. When you hear stuff like that, you think about it. Do you really want to win games? No. What part of my no, the N or the O did you get?

Like, come on. Oh, we're intimidated by his size. What are we talking about? I ain't never, I done heard a lot, Ocho. I done heard a lot. That's the first time I've ever heard something like that.

I ain't never heard that one either. Especially not in the sport that we play. Have you seen some of the linemen that are even on your team? Yeah. Whatever GM said, have you seen some of the sides of some of the people on the O-line, D-line? You talk about the head coach. I've heard.

Is physically imposing? Yeah, I've heard that maybe he should lose, you got coaches should lose a few pounds or he should, you know, groom himself a? Yeah, I've heard that maybe he should lose a few pounds or he should, you know, groom himself a little better. I've heard things like that. But physically imposing? Can the guy coach? Excuses.

Excuses. Listen, I thought they only did players like that. No. Well, clearly, I guess not. That's crazy. mean I thought I thought Brable I think he's gonna get another chance to coach again yeah you'll get another shot wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast NFL daily with Greg Rosenthal five days a week you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm sure he's going to get a shot at some point. What about Bill? The question is, Coach Belichick is in his 70s. The question is that I think general managers and owners are having, does his message still resonate with these young players

when you don't have a Tom Brady in the locker room that can control everything? Because guys might want to be mutiny and Tom said, hey, guys, don't worry about that. We got this. We're going to win the game regardless. Right. So unless you have a Tom Brady or you have a guy the equivalent

of that, say a Patrick Mahomes is... Kind of iffy. Even with Belichick being in his 70s I wonder if he can adapt to today's era. Adapt to today's

younger kids as far as coaching style kind of kind of manipulate his coaching style a little bit to fit you know today's kids you know as opposed to you know i think some of the same some of the stuff he did during his day really wouldn't work or resonate with young kids in today's today's era i'm just curious about that because it seemed like most of the coaches or most of the decision makers are going younger. Yeah. You know, as far as head coaches

are concerned. These young kids are different now, Ojo. And I think for me, I am glad I didn't play in this era because I take it, I'm too serious about it. Right, right. I don't care about no cars.

I don't care about no jewelry. I don't care about how many chicks you got. That ain't got nothing to do with me. Can you help me win? Yeah, yeah. That's all I need to know. Are you meeting? Are you ready to play?

Are you practicing hard? Are you doing what you need to do to help me win games? That's all I cared about. Right. I didn't come to make friends. And so that's my thing, Ochoa. i'm very matter of fact why i'm here and i think that's why coaches like me because there was never man man i wonder i wonder if shannon's prepared i wonder if he's doing what he's supposed to be doing coaches never had to worry about that right my eyes my college coach told me if I had 50

Shannon Sharpe, because I told him, he said, hey, he called me too. He said, too, you ready? I said, coach, this is my sophomore year, like first game of my sophomore year. I said, coach, you ain't never got to worry about me getting ready. I said, get them other 50 guys ready. I'm going to show up for you every...

Never had a problem. Mike never... You know, hey, Mike would always tell me, go back and look at him on, hey, 84, get him going. That was my job. He let me be me. As far as practice, you know, I'm loose, Ocho. We got the Soul Train thing coming down.

But... Oh, you're going to... Hey, you... Because here's the thing. Because Mike's looking at me sideways. So if you mess up a play and walk through, now we're going to have to stay out there longer. And so now I'm feeling some type of way

because I remember when you were bulljabbing shooting basketball. I remember when you were bulljabbing on your phone. So now I got to talk to you. I got to have a conversation with you. Because you're messing up the church's money. That's a good one. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, this thing for real.

Right. Like, you couldn't come in club Shea Shea. Like, we had club Shea Shea. Okay, guys could drink. Guys, you know, hey, smoke. You know, we played, they play video games we rolling dice we playing cards okay normally we don't let rookies come in there but you know with a clinton porter some of the guys don't f up because you f up when you come back up

i'm gonna slam the door in your face and put my foot in your ass it's really oh it's really that simple. Man, don't know. No, no, no, no. Study your playbook. Hey, man, let me come up to Club Shashe. Hell nah. You bust three plays today.

You ain't going nowhere. You need to be in your playbook. Don't worry about Club Shashe. Right. That's a privilege. Don't talk about winning, Ocho. Yeah, that's a privilege. As long as you're on point.

Absolutely. As long as you're on point. And so, you know, we be, O know, we used to gamble on the plane. Yeah, yeah. You know, them boys played spades on the plane. They played spades. We playing Blu-ray. We playing, we playing, they playing Blu-ray.

We rolling dice. Okay, you know, we got sponsors at the front of the plane. They got to go to the bathroom. They see us. They mention something to Mike. Mike said, hey, 84. You know, I don't mind you guys gambling. Right.

But if you're going to gamble, don't have the money out. I said, Mike, money out of sight calls a fight. I said, we might as well scrap this and wait until we get to the hotel room. Because I'll be damned if y'all not going to talk about, okay, I owe you. No, hell no. I need to see the money on the wood. Right, right, right, right. Mike said no more gambling.

Hey, no gambling. Okay, I shut it down. Hey, we ain't gambling. Now come playoff time. Hey Mike, you know 84, do what y'all do back there. Okay. That's what we do.

That's what we do but That's what we do. But my thing was, I was an extension of Mike because a lot of times, Ocho, we handle situations in the locker room before they got to Mike.

That's what leaders do. You don't wait for things to get out of control and then you go take it to Mike. You suppress it before he has to ever hear about it. There are a lot of things that went on in that locker room.

Mike had no idea. Idea, yeah. That's crazy. But what are your leaders for? You think you're just a leader just because that's just a title? Right. You got to be able to do something.

If there are issues going on between teammates, hey, bro, what's that about? Bro, how you mad you married how you mad about somebody you married how you mad

what y'all was back doing like that over there boy I know what you're talking about I see where you're going too I'm picking up what you're putting down I didn't play that I didn't have no allegiance to nobody's wife. But what I had allegiance to was that locker room and was to keep the peace. That was my allegiance.

What you do, look, what you did, as long as it didn't interfere with the locker room, I could care less, Ocho. I really could. Yeah. That's not my responsibility. Your wife wasn't married to me. You weren't married to me. so i don't give a damn but i tell you what you're not gonna do it's not gonna interfere what's going on in this locker room so take that a take that ish somewhere else yeah it's really that simple

but that sounds like a good story now you might want to go ahead and share that well that thing sounds juicy what nah nah nah, nah. Hey, hey. But here's the thing, Ocho. I was reading the chat because I like to read the chat and see, like, okay, what can me and Ocho do differently? What could we add?

And I was reading a story about this lady, and the lady was saying, well, Shannon, what I've learned throughout my life is that when guys talk like you be talking, it's untrue.

I've been on TV for the better part of 20 years, with the exception of two years, Ocho, that I was out of work after I got to CBS. So those two years, but for the better part, so about 18 years, Ocho, I've been on TV. Name the one time I've told you a story about something that happened

in Baltimore or Denver, and somebody came back and said that didn't happen. Name the one time that I've said something about, since you and I have been doing this. If it wasn't true, some female can get on a fake account and say that didn't happen.

Not one time. I understand now in today's society, a lot of people lie. But what the F if I want to lie? It is what it is. Now, I got some stories that also they say that the only difference between truth and

fiction is that truth has to make, fiction has to make sense. I got some stories that say, man, ain't no way that happened. It absolutely was. It did happen. And I was there.

I was there. I might have been an active participant, but that's neither here nor there. That's for the movie. Right. But guys, I'm telling you things that have happened, college, NFL, my personal life. college, NFL, my personal life. And a lot of times, some of these things that happen with female women in my life, Ojo,

we cool. 30 years, we cool. Yeah. Hey, the fact that you've been able to remain a cordial relationship with people that you've dated and been intimate with even after the fact is very commendable very very very commendable because most of the time you know things always end on bad terms and there is no you know being friends once you cross a

certain threshold it's a wrap it took me a while to get to that, Ochoa. It took me a while. It took me a while because I was allowing these women to hold my feelings hostage. They were going on with their lives, but I was in bondage. So I said, I am not going to allow you to hold my feelings

hostage. I refused to be in bondage. So I had to forgive them. And yet it took me a while because some of them did some things they didn't have to do. You could have just. I tell people all the time, I don't have bars on my house, so it's not to keep you in or out. Right. Walk in the door. I'll allow you to walk out. Yeah. Boy, I like that. And so for me, it took it took me a while. It took me a while. Yeah, I've had situations, but I've...

Because I believe, Ocho, that I'm always going to come out on the winning side. And so when they've done things to me, I was like, okay, it is what it is. You felt that's what you needed to do. But I'm going to win. I'm going to win. I've had situations, Ocho, with women that I've dated.

They ended up getting married. When they're going through hard times, who you think they call? Well, Shannon, I'm going to get a divorce. I say, no, you're not. I say, you better stay with that man. I say, you got to understand how old you think you are.

You got two kids. You this age. I say, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to get you a hotel room. You stay there for a week. Y'all figure this is shop. But you don't need to leave him. Yeah.

Yeah. We talked about it last night now. Pickings get real slim. Yeah. I said, who you think you about to get? Who you think you about to get? You and your damn little 50. Well, reality will hit once you get out in them streets and you're about to get you and your damn little 50? Well, reality will

hit once you get out in them streets and you see what's left over. Yeah. I said, because y'all have a disagreement? Oh, he said something that you didn't like or you don't like the way he... Oh, hell no. Y'all better solve that. And as a matter of fact, hey, I already

got it taken care of. You ain't got to show nothing. Everything that you need, the room and the incidentals are taken care of. You ain't got to show nothing. Everything that you need, the room and the incidentals are taken care of. Right, right, right. Stay your ass up there and make sure you make the right decision now.

Yeah. Yeah. You make the wrong one, you're going to be looking back. You're going to be looking back mad than a mother. Come back 10 years later, they still married.

Thank you. I appreciate that. Mm-hmm. But you ought to be a therapist, man. I could be. Oh, to the way I look at it, look. You and I didn't work out. I don't think you're a bad person.

You might have not been right for me. I might have not been right for you. But you might be perfect for someone else. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes that hurts. That's okay. That's okay.

Because at the end of the day, I want you to be happy. I might not give you the happiness that you're looking for, but that doesn't mean I don't want you to have it. And if you found it at one point in time, stay there. I say it's easy. I say, damn,

the minute of heart, I thought richness and poor, sickness and health. Well, damn, so y'all just talking up there in front of the man, huh? Y'all up in the church and y'all just lying. Yeah, they'd be ready to go now. The slightest inconvenience or things don't go well or you do something that don't sit right with them, they're ready to go.

They're ready to go. Matter of fact, they're ready to go to somebody else that's going to do the exact same thing. And worse. Yeah. Yeah, but you know, like my grandma say, they ready to go matter of fact and they ready to go to somebody else that gonna do the exact same thing and worse yeah yeah but you know you know like my grandma say

my grandma always told me that you don't have to lie you don't have to lie to a woman cause if she like you enough she'll lie to herself yeah for sure you don't have to lie to a woman

cause if she like you enough all them red flags look like six flags oh she going for that ride yeah she going for that ride they color blind yeah oh yeah when it's when it's convenient yes based on the opportunity but i but i won't i want all the women

that i've been with and and my time i want them to find happiness it wasn't for me it you know we didn't work out but if there's anything i I can do to help you and you're in a situation, I got you. We didn't work for me. All right. Like I said, and even though sometimes it didn't end on the best note, the best terms,

we didn't end on the best terms. That's all right. I mean, I think that came from my grandmother and my sister. Cause my sister like, Shannon, just pray about it. It's going to be okay. Yeah. You Because my sister's like, Shannon, just pray about it. It's going to be okay.

She's like, you still my little... She always tells me this. Every time I've always gone through something, a breakup, she always reminds me who I am. You still Shannon Sharp. You still my little brother. And you're going to be okay. She's that calming voice

because a lot of times I'm like, hey, I want to bury this, you know what? What do you get out of that? What do you get out of that? Right. I mean, my sister, look, let me tell you what my sister did. I was in a relationship.

Can we get a name this time or no? No, we ain't gonna get no name. We ain't gonna get no name. Let me tell you what my sister did. My sister really, because like, if you call my sister, if you automatically,

I would think my sister would take up for me. Right. That's what my sister did. When you're wrong, you're wrong now. She got to hold you accountable. My sister say, you should leave him

Hmm Cause he ain't doing right So why you gonna stay? Why you gonna stay in a situation Where you're unhappy? You know he makes you unhappy You're not happy, but you're gonna stay, why? Leave

And if it's meant to be Y'all will be together. You'll come back like a boomerang. Man, I ain't leaving. What the hell you done done? What you think the girl did? She ain't leave. Left. What?

Left. You serious? Left. Ain't look back. Oh, man, that's too nice in a row. You done told me somebody left you now. ain't look back oh man that's too nice in a row you done told me somebody left you now I don't like that Ocho Ocho

it's okay it's not the end of the world Ocho damn Ocho CBS CBS let me go I went to Undisputed got bigger

Undisputed let me go now look at it look at the subs I got more subs than Undisputed look at the talent they got over there I got we got a new podcast and we got more subs than everybody they got over there combined so

I'm okay I'm gonna be okay i believe in me i'm always gonna bet on black yeah oh yeah so i i don't i don't i don't get you know when when something happens i remember i wanted a situation and my agent said hey don't worry about it don't worry about it next contract somebody else will pay for what you lost i like that i don't i don't i don't get upset man it's not the end of the world i'm strong i'm strong hey i'm born in 68 i came from good stock not woodstock you better understand where i came from from and how I came to be. Damn. I don't like that.

What you don't like? You're a good dude, man, because that stung me a little bit, man. That's two times. Oh, cho, cho, cho. Two times somebody, oh, they up and left. Oh, that ain't the first time.

That ain't the first time. That ain't the first time. That's not the second time. I was dating a female and we were living together and when I came home, she was gone. Oh, hell no. Oh, hell no. I don't care. Like, that's the type of shit you see in movies, man. Well,

I guess I was living the movie then Hey Oh hell Nah Listen when I tell people I can write a book Y'all think I'm lying I know y'all think I'm lying You came home

Like on some gone girl shit Like the movie Gone Girl She was gone Gone Biggie Biggie on some gone girl shit, like the movie Gone Girl. She was gone? Gone. Biggie, biggo, biggie, biggie. Gone. I gotta take my glasses off, man.

Bye-bye, Birdie. Hey, that's slightly disrespectful. Why? Because if you love me, and if we deal in... What's happening? That wasn't the case. He didn't love me anymore. Yeah, anymore?

Would you tell me that? If you've checked out mentally and you stay here physically and you're not feeling the situation we're in, I need you to communicate. Isn't that what women always talk about?

Women are big on communication. Where's the communication? Why wait until you leave on some sucker shit and then pack your shit and leave in when I ain't here and not face... Face the wolf. here. And not face the wolf.

Face the wolf. Come on now. I mean, Ocho, everybody can't handle situations like, I don't know how you handle situations, but I can sit down, I can have a conversation. You're not happy? You want to move on? I'm not happy, I want to move on.

I can have that kind of conversation right right right everybody can't have that conversation everybody's not built like you and i like i i can't speak for you oh i'm built but i can handle it let me let me tell you something let me tell you how i feel and me and you on the same page i was born in 79. I was born in 78. But one thing about it is I'll give my all and do all I can. Now, if you choose to lose, I never see it as a loss. I see it as one less expense. That's it. Right.

I'm doing everything. So now that's somebody else's responsibility. If they want to pick up where I left off and do more, so be it. And good luck. Yeah, for sure so be it. And good luck. But I always see someone actually leaving me, well, shit. That's better for me. I just think about how much I can save from this point on.

Yeah. So I don't get upset. I don't fuss and fight. I want things a certain way. I like people that after you've been with me for a while, you kind of understand my mannerisms. You know what I, okay. Shannon don't really want to talk.

Let him be. Right, right. Shannon won't want something like this or Shannon won't want something like that. Let me have this ready for him. I want people to like study me and have without me having to tell you. Right.

No, no, no, no. I think the best relationships are you've been with someone long enough you understand hey you know it's funny i like that you just said that like i've been with real like so long now we starting to look alike i can start a sentence i ain't i can start it i can start i can start a sentence and before i even finish what i'm saying she finished the damn sentence i like but what can i and it kind of irked me a little bit like can I get my thoughts out I know you know because I'm I'm a creature habit huh yes you don't change my routine doesn't change and the

things that I say based on the situation it never changes as well so I start saying something and she had finished it whatever it was I know I know, I know, I know. All right, I know you know. Just let me get what I want to say out. Yeah, I want to say it, though. Let me say it. Let me finish. So, basically, it sounds like you're irritated because you already know

what I'm getting ready to say. You don't want me to say it? Yeah, yeah. Small little discrepancy we be having. You know, that starts the argument. Yeah. But it's going to happen, Ocho.

And, you know, I think the argument yeah but it's gonna happen ocho and you know i think the thing is for me um distance is hard because you know wanting to talk every day all the time physical touch is important i don't see how people do long distance i don't see how people do do long you know when you're younger i understand when you're younger you don't really know no better you know you're in, you don't really know no better. You know, you're in love. You know, that's puppy love. Like my grandma used to call it. Boy, there ain't no puppy love.

You ain't going to know her in three years. I ain't believe her. I say, my grandma, my grandma, boy, she going to be here forever. Boy, you in eighth grade. Thank you. Goddamn, I never forget.

She left me for goddamn Willis, man. Oh, look look We all would We all done been through that You know And played them songs Lenny Williams Girl you know I love you And

And And And sent for me Atlantic Star I'm just a telephone call away I mean we all played That Lionel Richie song Hello

Boy you bring it back Boy I'm Boy I almost teared up, you bring it back. Boy, I almost teared up. Boy, you bring it back. That makes me emotional, boy. I remember them days, boy. Listen to that Lenny Williams. You know how hurt you got to be to watch TV

till TV went off? Because TV used to go off. See, TV wasn't always 24 hours a day. Like at midnight, the TV would go black. There was nothing else on. I know a lot of people out there that's watching this don't remember those days, but TV used to

go off at midnight. It would go black. Yeah. That's that hurt, boy. There wasn't a cartoon network. We had a TV that had three channels. Own off and don't F with me. You know what I'm saying? We could barely see what was going on anyway.

Yeah. I think that's the thing and don't F with me. So, you know what I'm saying, Ocho? We could barely see what was going on anyway. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, and I think that's the thing is that you understand, like, you know, look, as you grow, Ocho, your partner needs to grow with you. Now, sometimes what happened, Ocho, as I started to grow,

they weren't growing, and then all of a sudden, I became, you know, because here's the thing, Ocho. I'm with somebody. I'm like, hey, hey, you know, most people are going to recognize who I am. They're going to say, but I would always say, this is my partner. This is such and such, blah, blah, blah. But here's the kicker. When she wasn't with me, didn't get no acknowledgement.

So basically what she was, what she had become, was she was like, you drowning me out. I can't be who I am. Right, right, right. I like that. I think I'm kind of fortunate.

It's kind of the opposite. It's kind of the opposite for me, a little bit. Like, I'm still who I am, but this young lady, obviously, real, has her own identity. Yes. You know, she has her own identity to where it's gotten to the point where, oh, it ain't't that's Chad Johnson oh that's the dude Sherelle go with

oh that's the dude Sherelle excuse me honey but I was out there catching them touchdowns that was me celebrating that was me what you mean

that's the identity oh that's Shannon Sharpe's girlfriend so that's how that's how people would refer to her it wasn't her name but it was like

oh this is this is a Shannon Sharpe's girlfriend this is Shannon Sharpe's significant other right people would refer to her. Don't do me like that. It wasn't her name. Mm-hmm. But it was like, oh, this is a Shannon Sharpe's girlfriend. Right. This is Shannon Sharpe's significant other. Right. And she's like, that's not my name.

Mm-hmm. That's crazy, man. But I'm like... I'm still thinking about that. That really bothers me. Like, you going to work or you going to practice and you coming back home

for practice after hard days of work and she gone. No, this was, I was, I was, I was in Denver. She was, she was in Atlanta. So I came home after the season. Oh, oh, yeah.

No, after the season she wasn't in my house. She wasn't with me in Denver. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. But damn, man. I mean, Ocho, I looked at it like this. I didn't have to pay for moving. Hell, if I'd have had to move,

I'd have had to pay for somebody to move ass up out of there. Hey, I'm with you when you're right. And that's how I look at it. When those situations fall apart, I remember the memories. I remember the good times. memories i remember the good times i focus on the good times but then all in all i think about well hell damn i ain't gotta pay for this no more i ain't gotta pay that yeah this and now it's somebody else's responsibility

yeah then i feel better and i start smiling yeah damn that's crazy bro I'm telling you That's some shit out of Excuse me I'm sorry for cursing That old fat all this

That's something out of a movie man That's something out of a movie bro Oh yeah The only thing I was mad about Ocho She had cooked Thanksgiving dinner And left all them pots In my refrigerator You mean she left She didn't clean up Before she left No She had cooked Thanksgiving dinner and left all the pots in my refrigerator.

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