Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: ageing & dating, Jenkins family, best friends

Episode Date: January 25, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top pop culture moments of the week including age playing a factor in dating, the Jenkins Family joins the show to unpack a viral vide...o of them being racially profiled in their own neighborhood, best friends tell you what you need to hear and much more!03:14 - Woman crashes golf cart at National Championship05:44 - Age plays a factor in dating10:00 - Are your single friends giving you bad advice?19:44 - The Jenkins family unpacks viral story of neighbor racially profiling them48:41 - Best friends tell you what you need to hear52:00 - The NFL is an “update your resume” league(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:58 They can't even parallel park. Oh. Oh yeah. Hey, I mean, they also they're awesome powers clip. Oh, yeah. That's the whoa. She gave you. She gave the wheel.
Starting point is 00:04:21 All the wheels came out, didn't it? Oh, she didn't miss the ball. off, didn't it? Oh, she didn't mess with- You crashed into the little ball. Lord, have mercy. She done wrecked that. And she take off running. Hey, call the cops. Leave the scene of an accident. Bail her and render aid.
Starting point is 00:04:44 He must've been intoxicated. Lord have mercy. How can you drive right into the wall? Yeah, and you gotta learn how to whip that thing. Lord have- Boom, gotta bring that thing, bring it in, and come on. Lord have mercy. I mean, she stepped bring it in, and come on. Lord have mercy. I mean, she stepped on the gas too, old chump.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Too hard. Yeah, she drunk. She drunk. Well, I don't know who she work for, but I don't know if she's going to be employed tomorrow. Nah. And it's on camera too. She done broke the people. And she take off running. That's what got it's on camera too. She done broke the people.
Starting point is 00:05:26 And she take off running. That's what got it, Ocho. She take off running. Bam! Run, then. Like, what the heck? He tripping. Ocho, watch this.
Starting point is 00:05:42 He took off? Yeah, she running. She outta there. O don't what if she don't work there? What is she the snuff man security? And to be where she is. They got to be somebody cuz coach Ryan. They had just walked by too He was in the car the front seat. Oh he was yes. Oh Lord They had to, somebody important. Oh No, I don't know she's gonna be gainfully employed tomorrow That's just me So Matthew Stanford is gonna have options
Starting point is 00:06:18 See, that's the thing that you're in the more options that you have is Joe, it's just like a relationship. The more options a woman have, the harder the guy gotta come to impress her. If you ain't got no options, the guy, if you got options, you making 10 million, 15 million, 30 million a year, you got options. The dude that ain't got no options,
Starting point is 00:06:44 bro, you gotta take whatever, whatever like you, you gotta like her. You know, you get my age, you know, you got a few options. They ain't like they used to be. You know, they ain't the options I used to have when I was 35 or when I was 37. You're more about to be 50, Seb. So you don't ever want to, you know, your aunt gotta get a straggler if necessary. You know what I'm saying, don't you? I'm gonna keep it worth out of you, fellas. Hey, I'm gonna be honest with y'all, chat.
Starting point is 00:07:20 I ain't got it like that. So I just gotta be honest. Both shade had options. You know I was always looking at diesel, I asked them, you know what I'm saying, make it good. I was talking about my body. No. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:07:45 Hey, so hey, old Joe, sometimes, you know what you like? The ones that got the booty, you know, on the shelf and sat up there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, talk to me now. You know, nice, tight, you know? Hey, I'll be on Instagram. I'll see them ones like that that come up on Explore Play.
Starting point is 00:08:06 I'll just go ahead and scroll on up. I know y'all ain't even looking at them 57-year-olds. So let me go look at a watch. Let me look at a car. Something that I got to, at least I got a chance to get it. Clean's won't say it bad, don't you? Every man got to know his limitations. It's one thing about knowing your limitations, but it's also understanding that they don't know no better.
Starting point is 00:08:30 They don't know no better. Okay? You have to understand. Those that they're going to give an opportunity to, they're competing with everybody else at a chance to be the main. And most of the time, you never will be the main because the guy you chasing, a guy that have a roster and a harem of women. Loing. And they got choices.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Oh, Paul Hussle like those guys. You know, they call him the Paul Hussle back in the day. I ain't got no monsters like that. Yes, sir. You know what I'm saying? Oh, y'all know them old cars. You roll down the window. You know what I'm like that. Yes, sir. You know I'm saying, oh, I'm gonna roll cause you roll down the window You know I'm saying, you know, I got all them surrised sign bowls are hard and common, you know 14 speakers in the car and all that stuff. I got no defrauncer seat
Starting point is 00:09:15 I got no thing to burp, you know massage my back. I ain't got all the boxes on me Listen a a a a a plays a factor now I don't think people understand. Boy, listen, especially for when it comes to women too, and fellas, if you're gonna get it and get it done, you gotta get it done early. When you start hitting your 30, you hit 35, and you hit 40 and thinking you still got the oxygen you have
Starting point is 00:09:36 when you were younger. Oh, no, honey. Oh, no. Wait, boy, listen. You don't. You don't. I ain't no sense in life. I don't care how fine you is. I don't care. Okay. I'm okay. I'm looking thinking look he got you
Starting point is 00:09:50 Uh-uh, you still got the box like that when you do it what you think it means And I oh Joe I've been in my 30s and guess what And by the way, I had a little horn, man. Yeah, I thought I would be a little bit even more attractive. What I got on me and what I got in Thomas Jefferson looking on my shoulder like this here. Don't he look a little better right now? No, he's still old. Yeah. So that's why that's why I'm not you guys. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I hung the jersey up in the rafters, man. I'm not going to jersey up in the rafters, man. I hung the Jersey up in the rafters. A study by Oxford University researchers found that women typically have five close friends, but lose two of them when entering a new relationship due to reduced time or shifting priorities. However, those losses are often balanced by gaining a new friend, usually through their partner.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Professor Robin Dunbar attributes the trend to the focused attention on a romantic relationship demands leading to natural fading of some friendships. I mean, listen, I'm thinking I can only speak from experience. I can only speak from experience for me is regardless of any relationships I've gotten in throughout the years, my friend circle has always been the same. It's always remained the same. Did they say women?
Starting point is 00:11:19 Oh, okay. I see you. I see you going with this. But I think- That what he be hatin'. That what he be talkin' about. Oh, he. I see you going with this. But I think- That's why they be hating.
Starting point is 00:11:28 That's why they be talking about, oh, he ain't nothing on you. He cheatin', see? Y'all trippin' cause y'all be trying to keep her close. Let her spend time with me. Let her spend time with old Choke. Most of the time, you know what? Her friend girls, they be single.
Starting point is 00:11:43 They be single. And I, you know you mad cuz she won't go to the club with no more with y'all right your single friends will keep those that have boyfriends or husbands single they want to try to what you miss they want you miserable with them mm-hmm they do they gave they gave the worst advice and you the worst advice so you can be miserable with them. Wow.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I can see that, Ocho, I do. Because, you know, all of a sudden, you know, they used to go to the club, they go on the trips to Cancun, and they go in the Tulum and all that. And now she wanna spend time with her man. She wanna be booed up with me. You know what, the people-
Starting point is 00:12:24 You ain't got no time. So, oh, you too good to hang out? Yep. Cause I'm in a serious relationship. I'm trying to settle down. I'm going to get married. Maybe have a kid. Hey, ain't no kid going.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Ain't no kid jumping off. Maybe what I might can squeeze out one. I don't know how to get this, you know, how to get this, this pipe cleaned out, a little rusty up in there. You know what I'm saying? No joke. Forget that.
Starting point is 00:12:44 You know, I might can squeeze out one. Yeah, there you go. Well, you know, you gotta think, especially depending on who you're dating after a while, if you're dating after a while, you know, guys will allow their women to, foreign girls go on girl trips, you know, foreign girls be going dinner, go to outings,
Starting point is 00:12:59 you know, I think that's healthy for relationships when women can still- Oh yeah, I ain't got no problem with that. No, you go, hey, I ain't with your girl, do your thing, but just know, they don't mean no good. I ain't lying, they happened. Now you got a nice life, you got a G-Wagon, you got this, got this big old house,
Starting point is 00:13:20 go, you ain't gotta work. You got somebody cleaning the house three times a week. You got somebody preparing the meals. Hey, your family taking care of blah, blah, blah. Hey. Don't mess that up. Don't mess that up now. Well, you be out there like them,
Starting point is 00:13:35 texting three different people to make ends meet. All right. She get the purses, another one get the shoes, another one. Yeah. Yeah. You get flowers once a week, you get flowers once a week. Matter of fact, I done bought you a guard.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So you go pick your own flowers. Mm hmm. Man, five flyflying girlfriend. See, women got more friends. Women normally have more friends than guys, Ocho. Yeah. Yeah, most of them. Whenever somebody like close friends,
Starting point is 00:14:13 like I'm saying like, you'll actually like talk to, you know what I'm saying? Like share things with. Nah, cause see for me, if I tell somebody something and I hear it again, I already know where it came from cause I ain't told me two people. Oh yeah, oh yeah. See girl like, and see when somebody tell me something,
Starting point is 00:14:30 oh Joe, man, can I tell you something? Okay, before you tell me, who else have you told? Right, right. Cause I don't want you to come back, bring your ass over here and tell me, man, did you tell hell no, who did you tell? Mm hmm. I ain't want to tell nobody that bulljie that you told me.
Starting point is 00:14:48 So before you tell me, who did you tell? Mm-hmm. Man, I told you. I was going to say, OK, nah, don't tell me. Hey, you know what? It's another question since we're on the topic. How come women friendships never really last? Especially when it's a group. If they go on a trip together, they come back,
Starting point is 00:15:10 ain't nobody friend no more. They go to dinner parties, you know, everybody's with the bill, they ain't not friend no more. There's always a story or situation, especially on Twitter, or X, whatever you want to call it, where this always happened and it happens continuously and regardless of age, the you want to call it, where this always happened and it happens continuously and regardless of age, the teenagers, the older group,
Starting point is 00:15:29 even the old, you know, the of age, everybody be going through it. All the way, I'm like, why does it always happen with women they can never remain friends for a very, very long time, they always end up falling out about something that's so simple. They get a girlfriend one chance,
Starting point is 00:15:46 but they give, they give Ojo, he get 30 chances to mess up. But the girl give one chance, she don't come to him a birthday dinner. No, I ain't talking to that dish number. Yeah, women come to Ojo like, I guess I think I'm unique. I ain't a guy like, like if I, like my,
Starting point is 00:16:10 first of all, I ain't gotta worry about this cause a Bucket and Burns married, but if, my homeboy's like, okay, you interested in somebody, I'm good. Because I always felt that if you try to holler at me, you trying to get back at them, you try to tick them off. I ain't trying to take my homeboys off Now there are some some men. Mmm. Your boys. Yeah
Starting point is 00:16:33 Hey, you turn your back they like Yeah Yeah. Cause you know, back when you old, old, old, old, you know, he used to have a stepper. I kept a stepper. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir. And, and I, if they, they, nobody want it,
Starting point is 00:16:54 what I, what I need to find, I need a looker. Yeah. You're supposed to be a looker. Mm-hmm. Turn, I need you to turn your head, now. And I'm always getting there first because I want you to walk in because I want to see the reaction.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Mm-hmm. I don't care if the guys look, I want to see the women that look because if they look, I know I got something. Yeah. I know I got a winner. Right. That's what you need to look.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Look here, guys. They'll hit the crack of dawn and then they ain't saying nothing. They ain't saying nothing for them. Right. But when them women look Oh, okay. I like what she got all you know, yeah. You know, she got on some tom four heels or some wire sales. Maybe some balenciaga boots, you know Balenciaga got them knee-high boots right now? Yeah, oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. They seem to nice when it's cold.
Starting point is 00:17:50 For sure, for sure. With a nice bag, you know, wire sale, Dior, LV, you know what I'm on, nice ones. Yeah. Man. Ain't nothing like a beautiful woman. Nah. Ain't nothing like a beautiful woman. Nah. Ain't nothing like it, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Listen, God knew what he was doing when he made women in general. That is one of the greatest creations ever known to man. Ever. Ain't nothing like it, Ocho. A woman that work out just a little. I ain't saying she got to be alive. Right. But just a them, Ocho. A woman that work out just a little, I ain't saying she's got to be alive, but just a little, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:18:29 Yeah. Lord, forgive me for my ways. Tough. Tough. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to Say with Bobby Bones, join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle.
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Starting point is 00:19:12 Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it. And the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you sent it. You it's like do I send the heart now?
Starting point is 00:19:28 I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink Let's have a lots to say with Bobby bones and Matt castle on the I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball If only there were a professional WNBA player with her own podcast I could listen to. Hey, this is Lexi Brown, WNBA player and professional yapper. And this is Mariah Rose. You may know me from spilling the tea on Hoops for Hotties on TikTok.
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Starting point is 00:22:26 the events as you remember as vivid as you possibly can. Yeah, I can remember it wasn't too long ago. I was leaving one of my real estate job sites in the inner city wrapping it up for the day. It was about 5, took me about 45 minutes to get home. So, I'm proud to go home. Shannon, something I want you to know is, when they say it's a fluent neighborhood, it's one of the most wealthiest neighborhoods in Ohio. Wow, congrats. And my house, my house is the best house in the neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:23:01 That's what I'm talking about. Because I- Come on now. I defined it from scratch. I'm an architectural designer. I bought the land. I finan in the neighborhood. That's what I'm talking about. Because I- Come on now. I defined it from scratch. I'm an architectural designer. I bought the land, I financed the land, designed it from scratch, and I built it from the ground up, using all my resources.
Starting point is 00:23:15 So proud to come home. I'm pulling up, checking out my Christmas lights we just put up for the holiday season. And there happens to be a lady in the driveway with two kids. So I don't think nothing of it. Kids coming in and out of my house all the time. I got kids, got a family over here. I don't think nothing of it.
Starting point is 00:23:34 I think she looking for the front door. I say, hey, are you looking for somebody? She doesn't answer. She didn't proceed to go through the porch. So I'm like, okay, so she's probably coming over. So I pull in the driveway. I'm about to park and she rings the doorbell and comes to the front of the front porch. So he stops at me and says, do you live here? And I said, yeah, I live here.
Starting point is 00:23:59 She said, well, I don't think so. So I said, well, what are you doing here? She says, I don't think so. So I feel well, what are you doing here? She says I don't think you live here. Picks the kid kid up drops the stroller pops off the porch starts running and I hear screaming yelling for help at that point now I'm in fear. I'm in fear because I I know what we face as black men in America. So I rushed to the garage. Park in the garage, come in the house.
Starting point is 00:24:31 My wife's in the office. I said, babe, some white Caucasian lady, she just jumped off our front porch, screaming, yelling for help. I don't know if she's going to call the police. I'm pacing back and forth. I don't know she gonna call the police. I'm pacing back and forth. I don't know what's about to happen. 6pm, regular day. We pacing back and forth. I don't at this point I'm like, I don't know what's about to happen. She comes back before the police gets here. I don't want to go outside. I don't want to go outside with them outside.
Starting point is 00:25:08 And the police pulls up and we're, I don't know what's going to pop off. If police pull up, our case should happen. Anything could happen. I know they're going to try to do it. So my wife's come outside and she just wants to figure out what's going on because she's in shock. And I let her say how she ended up coming outside or whatnot. Okay, when he came home and he said, you know, I was going to ask you, he comes into the
Starting point is 00:25:36 house. He says, babe, there was a white lady standing on my porch. She's running, yelling, screaming. I don't know what this is about. And so what's going through your mind when he explains what he just encountered? I was in my office working and I'm confused. I'm not understanding what's going on. Like, what do you mean there's a white woman
Starting point is 00:25:57 running through it for help? For help for what? He's like, I don't know. And immediately my heart dropped. I'm like walking and pacing back and forth. Like, OK, just wait. Just wait. OK.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Well, what happened? Nothing. I was just fooling in the house. And I'm like, what is she screaming for? He's like, I don't know. And I'm like, I feel what? What? And I keep opening up the door because I feel like the police
Starting point is 00:26:22 is going to come here. Somebody's about to come here and I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't even know what fully happened. I didn't hear anything. I'm in the house working. So she go- And so I kept opening up the door
Starting point is 00:26:34 and that's when I came out. So she did end up calling the police. She did end up calling the police. Okay. So let me ask you a question. Now this happened in November. The video just recently got released. What caused you guys to release?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Because I'm glad this is on RingCamber because you're absolutely right. Had this not been captured on camera on video, we all we already know the story that was going to be told and how it was going to be spun. But you guys had it on camera. What made you guys finally decide to release it? Well, I actually released the video in our community Facebook group. We have a community Facebook group about 500 or so people.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And it, ever since I've been like, we've been shattered. We've been upset. we've been shattered. We've been upset. We've been, it's so many different factors and so many different feelings. So many different feelings. I picked a video in our community Facebook group to share what happened. And it took a lot for me to do that. And then we woke up in the videos everywhere. You know what's funny, it's one thing to experience racial profiling in public, you know, in public,
Starting point is 00:27:49 I'm sure we all have stories where it happens in that setting. Well, for it to happen in your own home, I mean, it can be unsettling, it could be uncomfortable, especially when it comes to a place that you call a place of peace. We, we go we can all get away from, you know, from the outside world. Has that affected your sense of security and trust in the neighbors and have you reconciled in any way with the neighbor who caused these issues? Of course there's a lack of trust. Of course it makes us feel unwelcome and unsafe. We have two boys and he leaves our family, he protects our family. So to know that we can't go walk the dog or someone looking at us is what's going to happen. It's a lot of weight, it's a lot of pain and a lot of
Starting point is 00:28:40 emotion. I can't stand it. And he's being synthesized to this. I still hear it in your voice. So, of course, it is. Not once have we got, I thought the next day, maybe there will be flowers at the door saying, not once has this person wished out to us
Starting point is 00:28:58 to give us a sincere apology. Whoa, whoa, whoa. A-so-A-A. I reached out to A-so HOA immediately after it happened. Nobody say anything? Immediately after it happened, I reached out. HOA ghosted me. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:14 For lack of better words. Can I ask you this? Prior to that night, prior to that incident, had you ever seen this woman prior to this incident? Have you ever seen this woman prior to this incident? I've been in a neighborhood for three years. I built the house from the ground up. I know the developers in the neighborhood. I lived in the front of the neighborhood
Starting point is 00:29:37 while I built the house. I walked to the job site every day. So have I seen her eye for eye? No, I've walked by her house and seen them on the front porch. So she see- When they came, I didn't recognize- Go ahead, Mal, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:29:53 I didn't recognize them, but I was gonna say that 90%, 90% or more of the neighborhood is predominantly Caucasian. So we're one of one black family from the neighborhood. And our house sits all the way in the back of the neighborhood. And the people ride by and take pictures every day. And there's a lot of publicity with our house. So it really was, it was shocking. But they stay toself in the neighborhood. Let me ask you this, you walk up and you ask what
Starting point is 00:30:29 can I help you with and she says is this your house you say yeah and she says I don't believe you when someone tells you they're standing on your porch and they tell that's not their property and they tell you that this is not your property what what went through your mind when someone is standing on your porch and and they tell you that this is not your property, what went through your mind when someone is standing
Starting point is 00:30:48 on your porch and they say, well, you don't live here? Well, that's when I was battled, actually as a black man, as a man. And in the prison, that's, you know, had to transition and learn how to put pride and ego to the side and control your emotions. Okay. That's when I kicked in.
Starting point is 00:31:11 That was the ultimate battle test. Cause in my mind, I said the audacity of her, that was in my mind, but I had to control my emotions in the moment because I knew where it could have escalated at. I'm thinking, well, what if she had a gun? Would she have been running or would I have been running? Is this a situation because now she said, well, you have to see it from my point of view. No, I don't need to see anything from your point of view when you standing, you know what, on my porch.
Starting point is 00:31:43 But for her to say, well, you didn't say, well, I really live here. I live here. I don't have to identify myself. This is mine. Why do I have to tell you who I am when you standing on my property? It's, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it took everything out of me, you know, not to get out of character. And especially when they came back, um, you know, she to get out of character and especially when they came back
Starting point is 00:32:06 You know, she brought her husband back. He was real standoffish. I was I was scared to go outside But I said on it I was listening. I said I can't let my wife sit out here with these people What if the police pull it? So, you know, I went outside and I Just had to make my face known and I had to let them know I do live here. A black man does live here. I did build this house from the ground up. I did design this house. I had to show my face.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And as soon as I came outside, you could tell they switched it all the way up. Let's get out of here, let's go. They switched it all the way up. When the police arrived, what did the police say? Okay, what was the side of the story that they told the police? And then what did the police, what was the interaction once the authorities arrived? I hid in the house.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I didn't talk to the police. I'm not about to come out there with them. Those police might tell me that. So you let your wife? I hid in the house. So you let your wife... I hit it in the ass. I let her handle that. I made a report. I made a police report. It was emotional to make a police report because we all know what happens.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And you call the police so I had to think to myself, do I go outside? Do I let them come inside? Do I sit up? Do I sit down? Do I let my son be sitting here? How do I explain this to him? And even explaining and sharing that this lady racially profiled as she ran from our house screaming.
Starting point is 00:33:41 There's no telling what people can think. My son came home from work,'s 17 and said, mom, what if I was taking out the trash? What if she had a gun? What are the, like what's the whole lie? The police here. That's crazy. Hey, I knew I had to make this work. Hey, despite the difficulties of the situation you've been through, have you guys or are
Starting point is 00:34:05 you guys moving forward with reclaiming your sense of safety being that it is home and in any way despite them not, you know, giving sincere apologies or letting you know that we welcome you here in our home, especially HOA and the neighbor cells, do you still have hope and motivation to keep sharing your story from this point on for others that might encounter these situations and ways they can prevent things from happening and being able to deescalate those situations? 100 percent. Uh, I have nothing against their family, but I grew up dealing with this all the
Starting point is 00:34:44 time, so we still have to live here. They live two streets over. I have nothing against their family. But I grew up dealing with this all the time. So we still have to live here. They live two streets over. We have to ride by each other's house. I'm okay with being cordial with riding by each other's house. Have no issue with them. The issue is getting a word out here and letting my situation and what I've been through and what I've overcome be inspiring to people in the world, people that look like me.
Starting point is 00:35:14 So that's the space I'm in. And I'm thankful for God because I didn't ask for her to show up on my porch. This is God's movement here. This is God telling me that people need to hear your story. You need to inspire. You need to tell people what's going on and use this so that hopefully this won't happen to the next person or the next person that comes across a care situation. They will know how to control their emotion because us as black men, especially young black men, we struggle with that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 We struggle with that impulse, with that, that acting. We have, we, we, we think irrationally and we never think rationally. So I'm here to inspire people. Um, I'm a real estate developer. I build houses from the ground up, single family houses. But I thought that moving into the most wealthiest neighborhood in Ohio, that this was the right thing to do. But maybe my focus needs to be building communities that's for us and by us so that we can inspire people that look like us. We can, we can build a community that's for us.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Can I ask you a question? You said something very interesting. You said she lives two streets up from you. So you mean to tell me she went two streets out of her way to try to find out who lived in this home? Not on your street, not on, not, not on your street. Not on your block, not on your street, not on your block, not next to you. Two streets. It's two streets up, but it's, she's all the way north. We're all the way in town.
Starting point is 00:36:58 It's multimillion dollar housing back here. The lots are big. So it's two streets, but it's still, we could go 30 days, 60, 90 days without seeing each other. So she went out of her way. Let me ask you this. She issued an apology. She also said that she reached out to you and tried to apologize multiple times,
Starting point is 00:37:20 but she hasn't had a response from you. Has she tried to, did she try to apologize to you in person or was it through this video that you guys have seen? Yes, I tried to apologize to us in person via phone, via knock at the door, via phone call, via email. No, only the live videos. Now, apparently if we were to believe what the report says, that this woman has a history going back as far as 2018
Starting point is 00:37:48 of creating these situations and then making herself out to be a victim. Have you guys seen that? Have y'all seen any of those reports that's being circulated? I have not seen that. I have not seen that. Can I ask you this?
Starting point is 00:38:02 I wanna ask you this. Have you thought about, since your privacy, your security, have you thought about potentially even leaving that neighborhood and going elsewhere? Or you say, nah, y'all not going to run us up out of our home? 100%. I've been in Ohio my whole life and I faced racial discrimination at its highest peak. I'm a stereotype person tattooed dreadlocks, a man that's in the professional world, in the real estate development world, that you don't see too many minorities building multi-million
Starting point is 00:38:37 dollar homes. It doesn't happen here. So we 100% have thought about moving to another state, taking my talents elsewhere, building a community, to go on places where we can be surrounded by more people that look like us. Man, so let me ask you a question. What was your relationship with the neighborhood?
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Starting point is 00:42:43 Follow The Big Take podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you listen. So it's the wealthiest neighborhood. And they got a saying that once you reach a certain tax bracket, race doesn't matter. That's a lot. So it's a lot. But people say that people say that. So everybody out here, majority of people out here, they walk every day, they take pictures of our house, they say hi.
Starting point is 00:43:16 You can ask people in a neighborhood. Those people are not friends. They don't say hi. They don't take too many walks. They don't walk their dog. They stay in their house, they are stand off. So the neighborhood is friendly.
Starting point is 00:43:31 I don't know about them. Do you say something very interesting? We participate in- Go ahead, go ahead, ma'am. I was just gonna say we participate in community events and, you know, for the most part the neighborhood is friendly. She posted videos after this happened, and the neighbors brought it to us
Starting point is 00:43:48 because they picked two and two together. So that's how we even found out that they knew about it. She mentioned to you, as you was walking up, you have to see her point of view. She's walking her kids, it's late at night. If you're that afraid, why are you out at night walking your kids if you as afraid as you say you are? Did you like, did that cross your mind?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Like, well, if you say you're afraid, why are you out here in the dark by yourself? You're married, your husband's not with you, and you got a small child. So it can't be that dangerous. You can't be that fearful of your life. If you choose at night to walk a child. It's six o'clock in the evening.
Starting point is 00:44:33 It gets dark early, but yeah, we thought about that. Of course, I wouldn't be outside walking with no, no. Yeah. No, not at all. Especially if you have been through things or whatever, like I'm not walking at night, period. That's crazy. It's as simple as that.
Starting point is 00:44:51 And as soon as someone tell me that's their house, all bets are off. Okay, let's, you know, be scared. Then you can walk home. That's it. I don't know. I guess I just look at things differently. I've really never walked by somebody's house.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Oh, you live here? Oh, definitely I'm not standing on somebody's porch and asking if this their home. If they drive up, I'm in the neighborhood. I see somebody in the driveway or somebody on the porch. I throw my hand up. I keep it moving. I'm not going to stand on someone's porch
Starting point is 00:45:18 and ask them if they live here. That's none of my concern. That's just me. Maybe, maybe, maybe I'm, maybe I don't think I'm unique in that, guys. Oh, we ain't nosy. That's pretty. We ain't nosy like that, though. We ain't nosy like that. Man, we see somebody, man, we chug up the deuce, we say hello, and we keep it moving. The first thing we say, we see a night house. Boy, that ain't nothing. Nice, ain't it? Right. And we keep it moving. It ain't our business.
Starting point is 00:45:45 You mentioned that you have a 17 year old son and as black we have to have that conversation with our black young men. Is that we always, it's always yes sir, no sir, it's yes ma'am, no ma'am. When you pulled, get pulled over, look, hey just be as polite as you possibly can because your job is to get that man or that woman to your car, back to their car, and on their way as quick as you possibly can. It's not about, you know, all this and all that. We'll fight it in court, whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:46:14 If they said I was speeding, if I was in proper lane change, I don't have a tail light or what, erratic driving. Let's go to court. We can argue it in front of a judge, in front of 12 people. I can't argue, I gotta have you make it home. Have you had to have that talk with him? Have you had it already,
Starting point is 00:46:31 or did you have to have that talk with him immediately after this incident? Absolutely. Absolutely, it was emotional, and it was multiple talks. It was multiple talks and even with days where it's like, you know what, I don't know if you should go outside and walk our dog. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Make sure you go out before it gets dark. It's a lot of weight. It's a lot of weight. You've received a lot of overwhelming support from social media though. I mean, everybody's been on your side. And the social media has come to your defense and like the way, the way you handle it and you mentioned your situation, um, having made some decision in your previous, uh, when you were younger and you learned and you said,
Starting point is 00:47:16 look, I got to channel this. I'm not, I'm not going to give them the ability to say, I'm angry and I have every right to be angry because I'm in debt, I'm in the right here. But nobody cares about that because all they're going to look at you as a black man, look at your history and bring that into the equation when it had nothing to do with this woman standing on your porch. Think about it. If you could, people are going to watch this, this is going to get picked up. If you could, people are going to watch this.
Starting point is 00:47:45 This is going to get picked up. If you could say, what would you want people to know about you, your family, and how you handle this situation? I'm a black man in America that's overcame every obstacle that could be thrown at you. Growing up, making bad decisions, being around the wrong people and being given a second chance to transition. Raising a family, being married. My 17 year old, I've been there since he was six months.
Starting point is 00:48:23 This is, this is, this is my, it is my son, but he's not my biological. I've raised him as he's my son. I have an eight-year-old as well. I'm here to inspire people, to show people that control your emotion. Control your emotion, control your emotion. That's one of the most powerful things that a man can do because a dangerous man is a man that can't control his emotion.
Starting point is 00:48:54 So a situation like this that's broadcasted across the world, you can see that I was given every single reason to act. And I still control my emotion. So I want to use this moment, these platforms, to inspire people, lead people, and to show them what a real man is and what a real man is supposed to do. You take care of your family, protect your family, control your emotions, and that's what we is supposed to do. You take care of your family, protect your family,
Starting point is 00:49:25 control your emotions, and that's what we're here to do. And also build communities. I wanna build houses from the ground up. I wanna build communities. I wanna design high-end luxury home. These are things that I wanna do that I got a passion for that. It's in my bloodline.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Custom home builds. My grandpa was a custom home designer and builder. These are things that I want to take to the next level and be known for and show people that in the real estate industry that we can strive, we can survive and we can do what they do and even better. So that's what I'm here for. Do you have a sense or when or if you will ever get your normalcy back because your life has been interrupted? You didn't ask for this, but as you mentioned before, God don't put on any more of this
Starting point is 00:50:25 than what we can handle. He chose you. He chose you for a reason. And the way you handled yourself in that situation, I'm not so sure a lot of us, because she went out of her way. She had no business on your porch to begin with. If she didn't think you lived there, she could ask that question from the street. You don't bring your tail on someone else's front porch and then ask them that's not your place i can see if
Starting point is 00:50:49 you're at her house and you and i'm you're asking for direction you like are you lost you need help she's in your she's on your property did you think about pressing charges for trespassing we did and they they threw it under the rug. They filed a police report. That was a nothing that we told them We asked for the police report. They never gave it to us We had to track them down and get the police report and looked at it. It was vague We thought about pressing charges. We did all that. I thought she gave me every right. She's on my property Right, that's self-defense. I could have gotten them down But I had to hold my composure as a man
Starting point is 00:51:27 for my family Because even though it was self-defense, it could have been self-defense not for a black man Not for us Hey wow D'Michael thank you for sharing your story with us. We really appreciate it. You handled that thing very well. To your wife, what's your name, ma'am? Brittany. You and Michael handled it very, very well.
Starting point is 00:51:53 I'm not so sure very many people would have handled it with the class and with the poise that you did. You did everything right. And even though you did everything right, it seems like everything has gone wrong. She was wrong for coming onto your property. The authorities seem to be wrong for how they've handled this situation. Hopefully you get the clarity, you get the judgment, the respect that you deserve in this situation
Starting point is 00:52:17 because you did everything right. And seemingly as of right now, things have gone wrong. Hopefully, the Nightcap family, everybody that's in this chat, we're praying for you that you get your sense of peace, you get your sense of normalcy, and you get everything that you deserve back tenfold. Because just talking to you, you're a good man. Really, you're a good woman. Y'all a great family. And you're doing the right thing. So, I tip my hat to you for the way you handled this situation and continue to be blessed.
Starting point is 00:52:48 God's gonna continue to bless you because you're a good man and you do great things for the community and I wanna thank you, Ocho and I, Nightcap family, wanna thank you for sharing your story with us. We greatly, greatly appreciate it. This is gonna go out and you're gonna get an outpouring
Starting point is 00:53:05 of support. Yes, sir. And it still wouldn't be enough for what you guys went through. But I thank you for sharing your story here with us on Nightcap. Continue to be blessed, continue success, and we'll talk to you soon down the road.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Andrew Warren said, "'Best friends tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.'" They do. I've been very fortunate to have those kind of people in my life, Ocho. Like I said, I got my two best friends, Bucky and Burns, Bucky and Quink to say,
Starting point is 00:53:30 homeboy, I love you, but you wrong in this situation. Yeah. And that's the problem in today's era too, you got to think about it. Whoever is the golden goose, most of the time the people around them are yes men. Are people that don't have the best interests at heart. Look at some of the incidents that have happened
Starting point is 00:53:49 in the NFL in the off season. Yeah, off season is a lot of people this year. They're gonna be people that get in trouble. They're gonna be people that get in trouble, they have entourage around them that won't tell them, you know what you're getting ready to do, it ain't a good idea. You know what, you've been drinking do it ain't a good idea you know what you've been drinking you don't need to
Starting point is 00:54:06 drive you know what I'm gonna drive you home matter of fact we gonna leave the car here give me a key we gonna take an uber yeah you'll see people that don't have their best interest cuz you know you know if you if you challenge the person who making the money that mean it might keep my cut your water off yeah so everything is a yes yes not telling them what to do when what's in their best interest yeah Brown really thank you should do that by you know I love you but this ain't it mm-hmm it's different it is for now and that's the thing, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:54:45 You're right. You're right. I just, for me, it's just, uh, I need to know. That's your job. Your job sometimes is to protect me from me. Mm. Oh, that's a, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. That's a good one, man.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I got to use that.. I gotta use that. I gotta use that in my next argument. I can use that. But that's why, but that's why, Ocho, that's why you have, like, in certain situations, my partner's supposed to protect me. Even if I wanna, even if I wanna wallow, she like, hey, boy, you ain't finna mess up this money. Man.
Starting point is 00:55:32 That's a good lad I could use. Like, I'm a deliverer too. Yes, she like, you're not gonna, I, but I was having an argument, she's like, Shanna, let that go. Right. For what? You willing to risk all that over something petty?
Starting point is 00:55:52 No. That's what- I bought you in my life, you know? Hoping at some point with what I envisioned after explaining my long term goals to you. I see who will visualize you as an asset to me. Yes. And I'm going to be able to protect me from myself.
Starting point is 00:56:18 But this what you want to do? Yeah. Don't egg it on. Right there, right there on that spot right there. When I give that delivery, I'm gonna let a tear drop out the right eye. Because if a tear drops out the right eye, that'll let them know you're serious. Yeah. Hey, boy, I'm ready.
Starting point is 00:56:32 I got that set up. I got it right here in my notes. He had to drop the two-point conversion. So he's gonna be... But I let... Look, they said that when I used to kill Tony Romo, I didn't like white quarterbacks. I killed Aaron Rodgers, I don't like quarterback.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I killed Baker, I didn't like black, white quarterback. If I say something about a black, oh, I don't like black. I hate my own people. So I think I'm doing something right because y'all say I don't really like anybody. When my home doesn't play well, I point that out. Have I not pointed out that my homes didn't play well? I point that out. Have I not pointed out that Mahomes didn't play well? Of course. Turnovers help you lose a ball game. My point was people like, well you
Starting point is 00:57:11 didn't like Joe Burrow. It ain't got nothing to do with like. I'm saying his turnovers is costing his team. It doesn't matter how well you play. The Volume Hey it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every The volume. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm so sick of hearing men talk about women's basketball. This is Lexi Brown and Mariah Rose.
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