Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Alabama upset, Coach Prime joins the show, Shedeur tops QB draft list
Episode Date: October 9, 2024Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best moments of the college football season thus far. Top stories include Jalen Milroe and Alabama getting upset by Vanderbilt, Deion “Coach... Prime” Sanders joins the show to talk all things Colorado football, Shedeur Sanders tops list for number 1 QB drafted and much more!03:13 - Vanderbilt upsets Alabama18:00 - Texas A&M defeats Mizzou21:40 - Ashton Jeanty from Boise State is going off27:10 - Shedeur Sanders tops race for No. 1 QB drafted30:45 - Ashton Jeanty best odds to win Heisman?37:10 - Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders joins the show59:18 - Ocho almost jinxed the Alabama vs. Georgia game(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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resources off the biggest subset of the day vanderbilt was 0-60 all time versus AP top five teams before today.
It's the longest such streak in the pole era.
The pole era started in 1936.
The Commodores hadn't beat Alabama in 40 years on the field in 40 years, 1984.
The 23 game Luger Street to Alabama,
this first win against Bama since 1984.
Vanderbilt goalpost traveled three miles
and was dumped in the Cumberland River.
Fire department dug it out.
From tearing down it ended up in the river.
It only took Vanderbilt fans a little over an hour
to get that goalpost three miles to dump it in the Cumberland River.
Nick Saban funded the Commodores two weeks early on the McAfee show, saying the only place in the SEC that's not hard to play at is Vanderbilt.
It's no disrespect to them. It's just the truth.
Vanderbilt had some fun with the quote after the game and played Sab quote on the loud speaker. Ocho, Alabama goes down 40 to 35,
the number one team in the country
after they took down the number two team, Georgia Bulldogs,
who hadn't lost the regular season game
in almost three years.
But today, Vanderbilt,
I've never seen anything like this, Ocho.
Time of possession, 42 minutes and six seconds to 1754.
I've never seen that lopsided of a time of possession.
Now I'm not saying it happened.
You know what, I'm trying to understand
and figure out where's Alabama's defense?
They continue to disappear.
Offensively, they play well.
They play well in spurs and then they disappear for a little bit and allowed team to get back in when they played
Georgia they had a significant lead and the defense allowed them to come back and
get in the game today when Alabama defense needed to stop they couldn't get
a stop huh I was hoping I was hoping they would get a stop just to get the ball back again and
see if brother Miro could take the boys down and score
So they can pull this one off today
If you think about the Ocho on what the third play of the game second play of the game he throws a pick six
It's a fluke you pick six the ball caroms up in the air. The guy picks it off
He got stripped sack the guy did a great play. He got him dead to right.
It's not good enough to just get the sack, Ocho. He stripped the ball out of his hand.
Great awareness from him. But the thing was, Ocho, Vanderbilt was 12 of 18 on third downs.
I don't know if I've ever seen that many third downs. Do you know how hard it is to get the 18 third down? Let alone convert 12 of them.
They were 12 of 18 on third down, 101 on fourth down.
And when you dominate time of possession, two and a half to one, let that sink in on show,
two and a half to one time of possession.
Alabama couldn't get the ball back.
So even though Alabama was scoring,
Williams made another circus catch.
He was unbelievable again.
But when you get the ball back,
because it's not like Vanderbilt was scoring,
but they're taking six, eight minutes off the clock.
Every time.
And so they got the quick score.
They was like, okay, you got two timeouts, Ocho.
You got two minutes and 38 seconds. And they got the quick score. They're like, OK, you got two timeouts. Oh, Joe, you got two minutes and 38 seconds.
And they got to get beat.
They ran out.
They ran. They ran the flow pass and they run the shovel.
Anytime they got in trouble.
And every time in Alabama, they made no adjustments.
I don't know if adjustments weren't made, but obviously at some point
coaches have to see somebody has to say something.
Whoever the spotter is up there in the goddamn booth, call down. Listen, they're doing the same thing over and over and over every time
they get in a third down situation. Make adjustments and you play ball. Yeah.
Yeah, bro, your quarterback opens up, he goes, did you lose sight of the time? With number nine,
the wide receiver, he runs like a lag.
And you have the back that goes like he's going to flat
and the quarterback shovels to him.
He turns it up, he's picking up first down.
He's picking up big major yards.
And then they run the flow pass.
The guy to the left, like, zero, that's the guy.
That's your guy.
Eyes in the backfield.
Where you going, bro?
Eyes in the backfield.
Eyes in the backfield, Ocho.
Alabama goes down, the number one team in the country on the road against the Vanderbilt
Commodores.
Normally the guys at Vanderbilt, they're probably going to be more apt to be financial advisors.
They're going to probably be, not a whole lot of guys end up in the NFL, but hey.
Yeah, I got one more question.
They were better than Alabama. When it comes to the rankings, a little better than I do.
And even though Alabama lost now, what does that mean for their ranking as far as being
number one in a people?
Does that change?
Oh, they go on.
They, they, they did not be a number one.
Okay.
Probably move to number one because they're the number two seat.
Yeah. The question is how far will they drive? They did lose be a number one. OK, probably number one because they're the number two seat.
Yeah, the question is how far will they drive?
They did lose to it, but here is the thing.
Tennessee, they lost to an unranked team.
USC, they lost.
Michigan, number 10, they lost.
Mizzou was number 10.
They lost to an unranked team.
What takes it in there?
I think we're number 25.
So they lost.
So the question is how far does everybody drop?
Do you think Alabama dropped far
simply because it is Alabama?
Yeah, it's an underrated team.
That's standard bill.
But I'm saying, you know, that committee,
they be playing around when it comes to certain teams, man.
But here's the thing, you got 12 teams this year.
It's not a death sentence.
Probably had this is the regular format
where you're only taking 14,
this probably would have been a death blow.
But because you're taking 12 teams, it's not life or death.
Now, you can't have any more slip ups.
Now you still got Ole Miss, you still got Auburn,
you still got LSU on your schedule.
So Alabama, Vanderbilt 26 first downs, Alabama 17.
Alabama was three of seven on third down.
Vanderbilt was 12 of 18.
Gotta get your beat.
Both quarterbacks threw it well, 18 and 24 for Jalen Miro over 300 yards,
310 yards passing.
Vanderbilt was 12 of 18, 252 yards passing.
So but the difference was Vanderbilt had 54 carries for 186 yards.
When you run the ball 54 times, you're going to dominate
the time of possession.
Yep. It's so funny. I think today, as far as ranked teams are concerned, today was the
day of upsets. Not only did Alabama, Michigan, USC, and Tennessee lose, obviously Alabama
as well. I mean, the UM game is going on right now and Cal is beating number eight number eight ranked UM
21 21 10
Like I don't and it can't because everybody's playing away. I mean I understand home field advantage, but not by that much
It's different Ocho it's different You got to deal with college kids.
A lot of times, the moments, the lights get bright.
They're not used to being in that environment.
And look, Alabama came off.
That's an emotional win last week, Ocho.
You take down the Georgia Bulldogs, who hadn't lost in almost three years, a regular season
game.
You take them down.
You go in to play Vanderbilt.
Vanderbilt is the doormat.
Hey, Vanderbilt's everybody's homecoming.
I, no disrespect, but people put Vanderbilt
on their schedule for homecoming
because our alumni's coming back.
We want to get the students excited.
We want the alumni to see us kick somebody's ass.
That's what you, that's who you schedule.
You schedule Vanderbilt.
But they got that pig six they gotta get it got it early
And it's like hold on wait a minute. They started running the football
It make it make you believe it make you believe like hold on
We can play with these fellas. Hold on. We can play with these boys
And that's exactly what happened
And that's exactly what happened.
The one thing Alabama prized itself on Ocho. Yeah. Being able to stop the run.
Nick Saban played the 34 defense with 34 defense. They had them big halls up there. The outside linebackers stopped the run.
The thing that's always given him problem because he's done a great job of stopping the run was mobile quarterback You look at who's beating coach Saban go back and take a look cam Newton
Johnny Manziel
Deshaun Watson, they can run. What are all those guys have in common legs
legs
If you have a little mobility, Trevor Lawrence, Cordell Jones. Right.
That was a type of guys, Johnny football, Johnny Manziel. Look at.
Those are the guys that normally give coach Saban
defense trouble because coach Saban does a great job.
I mean, you got to go back out all the time.
I can think of somebody just like just ran the ball down their throat.
Well, Ohio State and the college football player with Zeke went for like 225-240.
That was the only time that I could remember off the top of my head.
Now, mobile quarterbacks give him problems because they're elusive and they ain't.
You drop in coverage and you guys run past them and they jump out the window
and they get a take off down the field.
But today, Vanderbilt just lined up and just ran the football and had great success running the football, which you don't normally see against Alabama.
Because Alabama has a lot of guys on the defensive line and linebackers and even corners and safeties that's going to play on Sundays.
You go to Alabama, you want to play on Sundays.
Let's start sugarcoating.
What do you think the problem is?
It can be coaching, because if you have a team
full of four and five star players,
a game shouldn't look like that,
especially when you got those halls up there in the trenches.
I mean, you couldn't stop the run.
Hell, they couldn't stop the pass.
So do they have that many players
that are good enough to go to the NFL or will be going to the draft
this year.
Well, that's the thing about college football or Joe is that it's easy for
those guys to lose focus. You got to realize now you do 18, 19, 20 year olds.
Yes. Yes. What, let me ask you a question.
When you're 18, 19 year old, did you have the same folks you had in 26?
No.
Yeah, but I'm talking about last year you locked in no matter what.
Exactly.
That's my point.
That's my point.
There are kids, Ocho.
That's why I didn't beat the kid up from Alabama.
He's a kid.
He 18, 19, 20 maybe.
Huh?
How old is he?
Yeah, Tennessee.
Yeah, I'm saying, what did I say?
Yeah.
Oh, that's why I didn't beat him up.
The kid.
Yeah, I mean, that's a horrible mistake.
That's a horrible lapse in judgment, but.
Yeah.
What, if that had been an NFL player?
But you know, an NFL player will understand
situational awareness. Oh, man.
Especially in that.
That's gonna come in your goddamn headset.
Listen, you got to give us a chance.
The first thing they come go through that, through that headset.
You got to give us the chance.
If nothing there, you got to throw it up.
Oh Joe, we've seen guys run out of the end zone.
That's NFL quarterbacks.
We've seen guys make, we've seen quarterbacks make boneheadhead plays like have a guy go the ball out of the end of that bro
Where you throwing the ball?
Why would you throw the ball? But but but of the 18 19? Oh, yes
That's the hardest thing is to keep the guys focused because they have the attention span of an 18 19
Year old is not that of a 25, 27 year old.
That's me. Look, and I understand the NIL money to collect money and they get some money.
And I get that. But the focus is not that of a professional because you understand these are still kids.
I mean, some kids are mature. I'm not saying all of them, but I'm saying it's harder to keep getting young guys to have a singular focus.
Then say NFL guys.
But, you know, that's there's no excuse
for him, no excuse for him running out of bounds.
They there's no excuse for that.
But but we saw it last week, Ocho, that the guys lose a little focus here.
And it doesn't take much now.
Cause the game is, look, the game is like inches, not miles.
Oh yeah.
You have a lapse in judgment, it's a touchdown.
That's it, it's a touchdown.
But give Vanderbilt credit.
I mean, they got tired of me,
they're two and two, one and one in the conference. Yeah. I'm sure they get tired of hearing we're the weak league. I mean, y' tired of me that two and two one and one in the conference. Uh, yeah, I'm sure they get tired of hearing with the weak link.
I mean, y'all just collecting the checks.
Y'all, everybody y'all get y'all $45, $50 million that the SEC dole out after
everything that's happening.
Y'all happy with that?
Y'all got a big old endowment.
Uh, but y'all ain't really trying to win no football games.
First of all, it's so damn hard to get into there.
I mean, I ain't going, man, look, I'm not going to win no football games. First of all, it's so damn hard to get into there. I mean, I ain't going,
man, look, I'm not finna spend all my time studying.
I majored in eligibility,
which means I'm trying to stay on the field
to get to the next level.
Y'all not finna have me in study hall
five, six, seven, eight, 10 hours a week.
Oh hell no.
In the library writing, doing projects.
Oh no.
So I majored in football, that's my major.
And as the process of back I did get a degree
in political science or history or criminal justice.
Okay.
We on the same page.
Yeah, now you know my brother, he's there to go
into summer school got two degrees.
Now, the only degree I was trying to get summer school, got two degrees. Nah.
The only degree I was trying to get was like, it was 105 in Savannah.
That was the only degree, 105 degrees.
No, I was like, I'm here now.
I might as well go to class and get my schoolwork.
Like my grandad said, get your lesson, son.
Get your lesson.
You dying there, son.
Get your lesson.
Thigh as well, Locho, I was dying there there but Vanderbilt pulls off one of the biggest upset in the last decade at least
Taking down number one, Alabama 40 to 35
They dominate time of possession 42 minutes and eight seconds to 17 minutes and 52 seconds give
Give Vanderbilt credit. They won. They deserve to win.
They outplayed him today.
Texas A&M at home upsets Mizzou 41 to 10.
Texas A&M quarterback Will Lee the second, the third.
He's nicknamed the blanket.
He sent this blanket
and a note to the Missouri wide receiver Theo Weiss.
Theo Weiss Jr. ahead of the game, a warm welcome to College Station.
He's like, get used to this blanket.
It will be it will be real tomorrow.
Will the blanket.
Wow.
Sit home, boy.
We pulled up wearing the blanket that would have held him to zero catches in the
first half.
Will blanket lead tweeted after the game.
It wasn't me.
Let me off.
Moss ran for 138 yards with three touchdowns, a career high 138 yards as
Texas A&M handed Missouri its first loss with a 41 10 victory.
Uh, A&M was up 24 zero at the half and padded the lead with Moss with 75 yards or touchdown on the first clear
of the third quarter. Uh, cause, uh, drinker wits saying he was embarrassed by his team's performance.
He was, we weren't competitive and that's not the football. He said,
number 10 and they were on the 10. I I saw I saw a little bit of this game
No, not Missouri's right number nine, no, they were on the road
Yes, Mizzou was on the road at Texas A&M all the teams that lost one the road today
that's oh, I
Like I like I like
Will Lee I like little message he sent even if, even if he didn't do it,
I like it because not only did, if he didn't do it, he backed it up.
He backed it up. I mean, it made watching the game exciting because now I'm
locked in. I want to see how Theo Theo we respond to get in the blanket.
Now I want to see if William Lee blanket, the blanket, AK the blanket,
if he really liked that. So that, that made it exciting for me. But I mean,
they'll take the same them dominant the whole goddamn game.
It may think maybe Mizzou was ranked.
Yeah. Well, they,
it made me think Mizzou wasn't supposed to be ranked the way they look today.
Anyway, he'll take made him that much better.
Yeah.
Number nine.
You know, Joe, you know, it's a situation when you're on the road, your team get out,
if it could easily get out of hand.
You saw last week, Georgia fall back, but you saw it was 28 nothing in the blink of an eye.
And that was the number two team in the country.
So you have to be careful when you're on the road, crowd gets into it.
You get, you know, you fall down seven, nothing.
You come out, you go three and out.
Next thing you know, you're down 14, nothing.
And all of a sudden you got the crowd into the game.
Now it's harder for you to hear guys hadn't been in that situation before.
And before you know it, the game gets out of hand 24 nothing. And that crowd is rocking in the house that Johnny built.
And hey, it's over. It was over.
The score was at the end of the third quarter. The score was 30, 47.
So Texas A&M, the number 25 Texas Texas A&M, Aggies take down the
number nine, Missouri Tigers, 41 to 10. As Texas A&M is now five and one, they're three
and on the conference. Missouri, four and one, one and one in the conference. Okay,
Ocho, Aston Genty goes off for 186 yards and three touchdowns on 13 first half carries
in Boise State's victory over Utah State.
Genti became only the eighth FBF running back since 1996 to eclipse 1,000 yards rushing
in his first five games.
A list that includes Ricky Williams and Leonard Fournette. He already has 1,000 yards rushing through five games,
and he doesn't even have 100 carries.
For context, Barry needed 130 carries
to gain 1,000 yards in his record-setting season,
in which he finished with 2,628 yards.
But here's the thing, Ocho, Barry had 225 yards
and five touchdowns in a bowl game that didn't count.
So he'd have been over 2,800 yards, 40 plus touchdowns.
I mean, Barry Barry's a different case.
Barry special.
Yeah.
But this young man here, I have to watch him tonight, Ocho?
How tall is he? He looks like he reminds me of Darren Sproes, like a bigger Darren Sproes. Yeah, but this young man here
He looked like he remind me of Darren Spro's a little like a bigger Darren's pros he looks short he looks he
Oh
That's what I'm thinking you think he he's not a no no no no no he's not he's not yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Oh, yeah. Okay. Right now he's a ball to the lead in the Heisman race
Genty now has a thousand has a 90 carries
1004 yards with 15 touchdowns
You know, you know what? Well, they try to use him not playing against elite competition to get against him
Because you know, you know the Scouts are good, they're good for doing that.
They good for doing that. Would you be able to do this at any other
in the other school? They've been doing the ACC
or the SEC. I don't give a damn who he playing against.
He could be playing against Gallyard dad. He runs for 2,800 yards. They better get
that man that Heisman. I don't give a damn that we play it against do y'all understand how much 20 Oh Joe?
Do it is on pace to average 10 yards a carry
listen
Ten he has a he has a thousand yards and five games on night. I just hear it
Hell he could have I'd let him play I say look at at that I'm gonna give you two series in the third quarter
I'm gonna try to let him get 300
Because I know there's gonna be some games that possibly I show he don't have rush games like this now
Everybody gonna be bad. Yeah, cuz bad was rushing with three
He's right.
With two eighty five against Nebraska.
Barry Barry was a different animal, though.
But this kid here, I mean, watching him tonight,
you see what he what he what he really got going on.
Do you know when they will play better competition?
Yeah, I want to see a better competition.
Where is a good what what what conference are they in?
The Mount West.
Yeah, the what? The Mount West.
They got Hawaii, UNLV.
Anybody ranked on this schedule?
But you and you and every would rank like 20 something?
Huh?
Damn.
Yeah, but they just lost though.
So
Chador now tops the race for the first quarterback drafted ES polled 20 NFL scouts and executives who evaluate college players to see where they stood
on the top quarterback in 2025 NFL draft.
The variants of the approved telling.
Shador got nine votes.
Carson Beck got five votes.
Jalen Milroy got four votes.
Cam Ward got one vote.
Quint Ewers got one vote.
Ocho, do you think Shadour will be the first quarterback
selected?
Absolutely, he's gonna be the first quarterback selected.
The unfortunate situation about him
being the first quarterback selected
is the situation that he's going into.
That that's it.
That that's all I'm worried about.
I don't want it to be another incident like
that of Bryce Young and what was going on with him in Carolina.
I hope wherever Shador does go, they have pieces that are already in place and around him.
And if they don't, I would love to know their long-term, short-term goals and putting the pieces around him to make sure he's able to be a successful quarterback at the next level.
Well, Shadour has had a productive year. He's led a miraculous comeback against
Baylor. He's thrown 14 touchdowns with three interceptions. He's number six
nationally in passing yards, playing on the longtime NFL offensive court, Pat
Schirmer, which has led an evolution of more than NFL style offense.
See, this is what I love about time. Let me go get somebody to go get my son ready.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That can play in a pro style, that coaches a pro style offense,
get him ready to play a pro style game. There are videos are going around to talk,
Mark Davis, Chador was on the bye week. He was at the Aces game last night. The Aces won.
Congratulations.
My girl Kelsey Plum, Asia Wilson.
Aw man, did you see that rapper Brown pass by Chelsea Gray?
How she had that thing and just like,
ah, take that with you Asia.
They played really well.
Tiffany Hayes did an unbelievable job.
Jackie Young, they won.
But he was at the game.
And Mark Davis was talking with Chador
at the Aces game last night. Said, who knows, but he was at the game and Mark Davis was talking with Shador at the ACES game last night said who knows?
You might be home now. It sounds good. I like it. I like it, but you know, you know our owners are they gonna say anything
They don't say anything to you say your dream that
They don't say your dream. It might not be the Raiders that had that first pick
But they might because they do need a quarterback ain't no telling how how they are jumping the draft to go
getting
Ain't no tip
right
well
He's like he's just say well, you just tip what y'all picking at. Yeah, I'll let you know cuz like if they're dead
They call it dead into the Giants
I think I think time told a story. He's like
Do an interview with time at the combine
Yeah, he's like, hold on. What are you picking? We picking 13. He said I will be there
They had time to do it. Hey, that's a good one. They gotta be what they gotta be walking
Man like I said, people don't realize
how special time was.
I know y'all get, y'all, y'all, y'all watching,
I mean, you see some highlights of it.
I don't do no justice.
You hear him talk.
You don't do him no justice.
No.
Footage don't, because you need to see the speed.
You need to see.
Because I think a lot of times on Joe,
because the brass is it
Superceded his talent if you could imagine that and he was talented beyond talented
The boy deal that joker there man
Gentie now has the best odds to win the Heisman
Gentie plus 225, Travis Hunter plus 320,
Cam Ward plus 900, Jalen Milrow plus 1000. Wait a minute, wait a minute, let's, let's, wait a minute.
Jalen Milrow, do things change now that they've lost?
They just factored that in.
Okay, okay, okay. This update, they just factored that in. Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
They just factored that in.
I'm sure Travis Hunter will, Travis Hunter's case for Heisman will continue to rise, especially
when he has a great showing against K-State coming up this weekend.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
But, but here's the thing though, Ocho, you just said, what about the competition?
Now what happens when Gentie rush for 300 yards?
What is his stock gonna do?
The dude had 186 or 13 carries there, Ocho.
It didn't play a snap in the second half.
Hey, why do folks do that?
Why not let him obliterate the record?
Why, we don't wanna get...
Yeah, because they're gonna say, well, we don't want to get him hurt,
you know, because he because they had a they was like 40, 49 to like 10 at the
hell. You get him in a game.
Why you got to know what's coming.
But she can't will can't will got to pick it up,, see, Kam Will, Kam Will got to pick it up,
man, in his second half now.
You got to pick it up.
You got to do, yeah, he does.
I mean, look, it's happened to me,
you're coming, it happened to me, Ocho,
my senior year in college, we get like,
I remember the first game of the season,
I had like five catches, a buck 50, and two touchdowns.
So I'm thinking to myself, Oh, I'm going for three.
Coach told me, leave my pain in the locker room.
I know you were mad.
I said, coach.
What?
Oh Joe, I said, coach, coach, I can get three.
He's a son.
Right.
You're going to play on Sundays.
If something happened to you, I'd never forgive myself.
That's one thing.
Coach, today, listen, we ain't trying to hear that.
We ain't trying to hear that.
Oh Joe, you know I ain't trying to hear that.
Sometimes you gotta save you from yourself, though.
Sometimes you gotta save yourself.
He does.
He did the same thing.
What'd I have?
I had 10 for like 205 and four touchdowns against Clark right?
He said come on son you done done enough. I said coach let me get five touchdowns.
Oh man oh I was trying to sneak on the field man I was on the field.
Then I went out there and go call the pan. Oh I done snuck on the field.
Man coach hey they done told Davis, man sharp out there.
He done called a tire, but I was trying to get,
I don't get that touchdown, Coach Ocho.
I had a toe poke, my quarterback,
I said, poke, hey, throw me this fade.
Cause he looked at me and like, man, what you doing here?
I thought they took you out.
I said, man, shut up and throw me this fade.
Man, then I told Macky, Macky the Toad, Coach Davis,
hey Coach Sharp back out there.
Get your ass out of the game.
I just running down the sideline.
I said, man I'm just gonna stab the ball, stab that.
Nah, nah that's funny.
Damn.
Man, man Ocho, I would try to give you some stats.
I mean think about it O it, I had 60 catches,
1300 yards at 18 touchdowns.
Just think about what I could have had.
Hey, that was your senior year?
18 touchdowns on 60 catches.
And 80?
Yes.
I was like, man, oh man, I'm trying to give you some easy.
Oh. Well, I was trying to give you some ease.
Oh, well I was trying to give you some, oh man.
Oh, so I had what?
One, two, three.
Like three of my first five games,
I had two on the yard in a game.
I went for like 150, I went for 221, 154, 209,
oh no, 202, 202 204 I was cooking and cold will pull him out. So
Hell I thought he was playing for the other team
Hey, you're coaching me. You go to the numbers now
Them them them video. Hey, you know, hey you put in a video game number. What I'm sure
video and you put in a video game number.
Oh, Joe.
Well, hold on. I will.
I will.
I will like nine.
I will like nine, 10.
I might have went like 11, 12.
I've been like 12 games in a row.
I had to do 100 yards receiving.
Touchdown, had a touchdown at like 19 free games. Co-ordinators gotta pay attention.
Listen, if they gonna beat us,
it ain't gonna be number two.
I tell you that much.
Not where, somebody's gonna be wide open.
Yeah.
Because if you put two on me. I'm gonna jump over the top
You had no bounce like that to a to a to a go do it to me
Oh Joe, but you understand so we drove we took the bus everywhere so we get when we get there
You know, we have our paint
We have our helmets and shoulder pads in our hands. And so we just have our cut on you know, you know who got off the bus first
Yeah, oh Joe. Oh Joe. I've been up banking that's good. So i'm good
I'm just coming right here. Oh, Joe
What
Is a you see them look they point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah, that's me
That's me You gonna get it you gonna get it? Hey, man. I got that number two. That's you. Yeah, that's me. That's me.
You gon' get it.
You gon' get it.
I ain't.
Man, I'm the best thing going right now.
I'm better than the Cosmic Show.
Watch me.
Yeah, I gotta find you some Tim on this.
I'll cook it back.
Yeah.
Are you?
Oh, I'm cooking.
You got some VHS, Tim.
Oh, fuck Valley.
Yeah, I gotta see this.
I gotta see you high-light yourself. I gotta see you highlight yourself.
I can see why I was going deep on him.
Woo, there it is.
Hey.
Yeah.
There it is.
That shot for another one.
I gotta see this.
I'm cooking them.
Now let's talk about Colorado.
Colorado yesterday beat UCF 48-21.
The Buffaloes, your team with 14 point underdogs,
improved the four and one, two and oh in the big 12.
And Travis Hunter caught a touchdown,
he intercepted a pass in the same game
for the second time in three weeks.
And this is the fourth time in his three year college career
that he's done that.
He struck the Heisman pole after he picked off KJ Jefferson
with a diving interception in the third quarter.
Ty, I said yesterday, and I text you this,
that I thought this was your most complete ball game
in your tenure.
You look at the way you guys ran it,
you look at the way you guys stopped the run
when you needed to stop it.
After y'all done built up that big lead,
they started to get some cheap stuff.
You look at the way you protected the quarterback.
You look at the way you hunted the quarterback.
Your special teams got two good field goals from your kicker.
This was a complete game.
When you was looking at the week of practice,
you go into the week of practice, you go into this game,
what made you feel so comfortable?
Because I heard you after the game to say,
how much we were supposed to beat them by? 10.
What made you feel so confident that you guys were ready to play?
Adversity.
You got to understand.
We respond to adversity.
We got a bunch of former pros that are coaching, doing a great job
of maturing these young men, but it was a storm coming to Florida.
Or, you know, there's a storm coming.
So we had to leave on Wednesday to get to Florida to beat the storm.
You know what that does?
That brings us together.
Close.
We in a hotel for a few days, none but
team. We, the walkthroughs, the practices that we went out and practiced, thank God UCF allowed us
their indoor facility. We utilized that. Our guys worked their butt off, studied a ton of film,
met with the coaches, watching film, walkthroughs. It was just straight football and straight focus. And that was the difference.
Us occluding ourselves and getting away from friends, family, and loved ones,
and just being locked in, man.
That was the difference.
When you guys played North Dakota State, I said after the game, I said,
I'm disappointed because, and I said, you never accept anything in a win,
you wouldn't have lost. Coach Saban said yesterday, winning when playing poorly I said, I'm disappointed because and I said, you never accept anything in a win. You went into the loss.
Coach Saban said yesterday, winning when playing poorly is a kiss of death.
You then said after the game, I didn't know that you had said this at the time.
You said, guys, we can't be happy with just winning.
We've got to dominate.
We've got to take the field, expected to dominate.
Is too many people happy that we just won the game?
Can you explain to those that say wrong, listening,
and watching what you mean by not being just happy winning,
but expecting to dominate?
As a coach, you know what you have.
You know what positions you're a little weary of.
You know what positions you're very strong in.
You know who are the dominant players on your team.
And when you go out and you perform and you may lose the defensive battle as well as special
teams, but you win offense and you score more points, you can't be happy. You're excited that
you won. You're happy that you won, but you're not satisfied with the true victory because you know
it could have went the other way with a bounce of this ball, a bad pass, a fumble, whatever. But when you excel on all three levels, and that's what we did
yesterday, offensively, defensively, as well as special teams, we excelled at all three levels
for our first time in my tenure, for the first time in a long time, even dating back to Jackson,
that we were truly dominant at all three levels, man. And I'm proud of the young man. I really am
because it was a valiant effort to do so.
You know what? I got a question. I'm glad you just said that one of the things you just
said as a coach, understanding your strengths and understanding you, you know, and wanting
everybody to come together. But how do you navigate that as a coach when you're playing
against an opponent? This I'm not, wait, I'm not going to talk about not talk about UCF,
you know, in, in, in, in this, in this instance, but when you go into games and understanding
your strengths and your weaknesses of your players,
how do you hide and navigate the weak parts
of what you may have going on and hide them in game
so you can still be efficient in all three features?
Well, you focus.
I mean, we had been great versus the run.
UCF was a running team.
You know, we gonna make this game plan heavy defensively versus the run. UCF was a running team. You know, we gonna make this game plan
heavy defensively versus the run. What does that mean? We got to get on these DBs all
week long because they're going to be one on one quite a bit man to man. And guess what?
It's going to be at least two to three balls that you're going to have to break up. You're
going to have to be there. Travis. I need you to be Travis. You know, I need you to
be you. I need you to do that.
I just need you to make a play.
I don't need you to win, but I need you to break even.
All right, I don't need you to win.
I need you to break even.
You two right here, I need you to be dominant.
You really be truthful and honest
about what you have and their abilities,
and you give them an attainable goal that they can secure.
And that's what they did.
They went out there and did that.
I look at both of your offense and defensive line
because you know that's the meat and potatoes of any team.
Yeah, you can have all the fancy bells and whistles,
but you need those pickup trucks and dump trucks.
And that's what you did yesterday.
Your offensive line, they opened up the holes,
gave running lanes, and they did a great job
of protecting Shidu.
I think he's only sacked twice.
Defensive line, they did a great job of stopping the run.
They got after the quarterback. I think you guys sackedacked twice defensive line. They did a great job of stopping the run. They got after the quarterback.
I think you guys like six or seven times going into that game.
And you know, I know staff is on your staff and he's preaching defense.
He wants those guys to hunt guys.
We got a hunt.
I know you tell them they got a hunt.
Right.
Did you feel comfortable?
Did you know like damn UCF they want to run the football.
We've kind of been little little lacks that stop in the run,
but I feel comfortable going into the game today that we can, we can do.
Yeah, we did. We did. Uh,
coach Rob Livingston doing a great job as well as Pat Sherman,
our both my coordinators,
they're doing a wonderful job of game planning and getting us prepared.
And I just add what I certainly, they cannot beat us at this.
We cannot surrender that we cannot do this
Those are my additives that I make sure that we can't do freshly navigating through the game and understanding
What's at hand during the game and situational football?
Like a situation like going down before the half, you know, we'll get ready to take a shot
It's no no, no, no, no, no, let's get it. My Tim, we all got this Tim. We all got this.
Let's dial up something.
Tim, oh, yes.
Give me that.
Let's get out of bounds.
We got eight seconds.
We need to do this within five or say we need three seconds on the clock.
We good.
We got a timeout left.
I'm going to use that.
Boom, man.
Pat called a perfect play.
We get out of bounds, hit the back on the shallow going across the field.
He gets out of bounds.
Model hits it.
Now we go hit him in momentum because they're about to get the ball get the ball to start the second half because we had to open it up so
there's a lot of situational things that going that coincide with what you're trying to do and
what you're trying to accomplish as well but the coordinators came up with wonderful game plans and
we ran the ball effectively anytime you just running the ball effectively and take some heat
off too back there it's gonna be a problem because now it gets like
seven on seven and when you give him that opportunity you've seen it when you give him
that opportunity sit back there and settle his feet it's gonna be a problem. But he makes him throw yesterday time on the move
I watched him throw that ball to uh to Trav he's rolling to his left and he has to throw it over
because he has a guy in between him and Trav so he has to put enough he has to put enough heat on
it but he has to put enough touch to get it up and down yeah yeah the guy in front of him and he has the
safety closing in on him when you watch him i look he grew up in your house you know what you got
but at any point in time do you get impressed by seeing what he's doing
no because that my expectations are out of the room and I get mad.
You know, I get mad at times.
Hey, dog, what's wrong with you, man?
You know, like, that happens and we have these intense conversations,
but sometimes I have to dial back because I'm looking at it from this point of view
and I'm hearing the call goes in.
I don't know if this happens or that happens and we don't know.
Right. But he knows, you know, he could, he could redial it and say, this is what was supposed to happen, but this didn't happen.
This is why this happened. Like he, these quarterbacks, he can't everything and he could tell you everything that he saw.
Because that's the first thing I asked. What did you see? What did you see? And he and Pat are wonderful together.
I mean, you got to hear the chemistry going in and see now is the luxury because you got a quarterback that can see the field.
And then the coach gets to talk to him until 15 seconds is left on the play clock. So that's
almost like stealing man, because now he's telling them, okay, they may come weeks out. Oh, look at
the front side of this. This is already there. He's already right there. And sometimes, you know,
he'll check off something.
We're like, oh my God, he should have stuck with the play.
Oh, oh, good job, good job.
It's like, it's almost like that, Shadoor.
Sometimes, because he can see the game.
He can see the game tremendously well.
Yeah, speaking of seeing the game,
Unc and I were arguing last night.
We were talking, obviously watching Travis Hunter
and what he's doing and how special he is. I'm talking about special. There haven't been many players.
There haven't been very many two way collegiate players that can do what he's
doing at such an early age and be efficient on both sides of the ball.
Like at that level. And I talked with yesterday, I'm sitting there arguing with him.
I'm telling you, I say, um,
I believe Travis is a better receiver as opposed to DB.
Now, I tell you, you hear it.
So I just want you to treat you like a pro scout.
You have to find out on your own.
I know the answer.
I know. I don't know.
I mean, I'm watching myself.
No, what you're saying, this is what you really say.
You've seen him with more opportunities at receiver.
That's why you feel that way. If you see him on a day to day basis,
pat them feet and get down there and get that. I mean,
it and I know I'm like a book right before they play.
If somebody dial it back before the play he made, I say, look, man,
focus, focus, focus. Cause they getting ready to come at you.
I need you to focus and stay low and do what you do.
That's what I said to him on the sideline because I know him and I know the floor of the game.
And I know when a coordinator's thing, he's tired of their, they may try to take a shot
to try to catch him sleeping or slipping.
And he ain't, he ain't getting ready to do that.
That's just who he is.
But I know the answer to that for sure.
This is my problem.
Every week we got a ton of scouts come to practice and they asked me that question.
What do I think he is? I I said I'll tell you what if
you put them on defense and don't let them play offense in the pros you're
gonna look crazy because you're not moving the ball down the field and your
best receivers over down the defense side of the ball and then the fans gonna stop
booing and they gonna start saying put Traversey now if you if you put it vice
versa okay now he's on offense he's lighting it up then your corner back is getting killed but you got him over there sitting on the bench
And your best corner is sitting over there waiting for the office to get attorney you get murdered
I think you're gonna look like a fool as a head coach
So you got to allow him to be who he is
I'm thankful that God blessed me with him and God gave me a career where I could see the game from both sides and I could understand that. No, this is not a not only this is who this kid is. I got to let
him be. Imagine if I was selfish and just was traditional and just played him on one
side of the ball. We wouldn't see half of the plays that we've been blessed to see as
a collegiate football player. I would have robbed him of that greatness that he has, that he's displayed
for us. Thank God that he came, he chose us, and he gave us the tremendous gift.
Let me ask you this, Ty. A lot of people are asking,
obviously you want your son to go to a great situation. That's first and foremost.
Yeah, you want him to go high. You think.
to go to a great situation. That's first and foremost.
Yeah, you want them to go high.
You think.
You want them to go to a great,
knowing how you think, yes.
High, you want them to go high,
but sometimes going high means going to a bad situation.
What about, because everybody's like,
well, Coach Prime pull an Eli.
Have you thought that far?
You just go, hey, son, just do what you're supposed to do.
Everything's gonna take care of itself. and we're gonna crop after the season will sit down and discuss
Yeah, no, honestly we've talked about it extensively.
I talked to most of the teams
because they had practice every day,
but I want what's best for him,
but I want him to be happy as well.
So, you know, you really don't get to dictate
where your son gets to go because there's a draft process,
but you know us, you know how we are.
We know who ain't trying to win in NFL.
So you know, you know that.
You know who's consistently, you know, in the basement,
year after year after year, you don't want that situation for your kids or your family members.
Nobody, no, no, none of them.
So we know what time it is, but you got to understand Shador is, is, is he suited for
adversity.
All our life we've been on adversity.
All our life we've been hated and mistreated and talked about it lied on and just naysay. All our life. He ain't never
had the red carpet rolled out to him. I'm not that kind of father. You know, I wouldn't
know. He had no silver spoon. He had a wood spoon. The kind we used to put on the wall.
Yeah. He had one of these.
A fork and a spoon.
Yeah. He said in an interview last week, he said, my dad ain't give me no trust for him. Yeah, we don't work like that.
He had to earn everything he has.
So he suited to go to a team that's been up on adversity
because that's what he's done all his life.
He's been in adverse situations.
I heard Mel Kipers say that Cover 2,
they need to do away with the cover two because this is why quarterbacks are struggling.
This is why teams are struggling so early in the season.
Man, what's your take on that time?
Jack and Jackie didn't have to be the ultra.
Yeah.
Okay.
Why don't you just go to two-meter?
Why?
Why you got to go to two?
You know, you can get them out there too.
You can run them out there too as well.
That's the two-meter can get him out there too.
You can run him out there too as well.
That's the two beater.
Run him out of it.
If you wanna get that two, first of all,
check if they had a couple two on you
and you playing tight end, you gonna tear that seam up?
That linebacker gonna keep on shooting that seam
if he run it, what's your,
yeah, we're gonna put it back shoulder,
then what you gonna do?
You gonna go to work?
And matter of fact, and if they in that two hell,
all you gotta do if you got some dogs out there,
they're condensing goddamn Smiths,
we corner out they asses to death,
or we go two yards outside the number
and we got them run that dig, dig they asses to death.
Let me tell you cover two.
Cover two, first of all, Chad love cover two.
You know why?
Because he towed a cone up and now he one on one
with a safety that's not usually playing in space.
So that was a murder.
Honestly, I've always told coordinators and the pros,
guys, if you're gonna play cover too,
just put the safeties up front,
put the corners in the back.
Because you want the call,
which are now the safeties to come up and make the tackles.
Then you want those guys to defend the pass.
But now you're dealing with a guy back there on the hash
that ain't used to space.
And Jared can't wait to get off that gym
and see that joke and face him up, man, please.
Yeah.
It's all right.
Please.
Yeah, I cover two beat.
I used to tell TD, TD, run him out of cover two.
That's right.
That's your job.
Run him out of cover two, make him drop.
You not finna stop us with this light bop.
Play action, bop, get him two though.
Play action, don't kill him two
because when you got a running game, he has to, you know, he has to take that thing.
He has to stay still.
So he won't let you get up,
but he gonna let you get up the scene.
He ain't got no choice.
Dr. Frankie L. Bellamy says,
"'Hi Coach Prime, what's the biggest lesson
you learned as a coach that you wish you had known
during your playing days,
and how do you apply that lesson to your coaching today?'
These kids are different.
These kids are different these days.
It's totally different.
You can't expect what you would give.
Don't ever expect what you would give.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Stay right there, Nass.
Stay right there.
Yeah.
Stay right there, I gotta write that down.
What you would give. You can't expect. I'm gonna use this one. I'm gonna use this in my next argument.
He's a fool. Yeah. That's tough. That's why I couldn't be no coach.
He got to. he has patience.
And that's the one, that's the number one thing
you have to have in surplus.
Because like you said, look, time, you know,
we go out there, we practice all week.
We go over Saturday morning, we talk about the first 15.
We have Saturday night meetings, we go over the first 15.
The first, and I'd be dang it if we don't get out there
and the first, somebody jump offside
Somebody fall start somebody blow it
For three days we know how you mess it up
Right, right. You can't be like we used
Good it's all different. Oh, it's a whole different game I did, man.
Gotta be careful how you talk, bro.
Yeah, but I can make you feel like I do.
But you don't bet hair the thing no time.
You don't curse anyway.
I can make you feel like I do.
That's my kids. I'm like, he is. He is. He is. He is. He is. He is.
He is.
He is.
He is.
He is.
He is.
He is.
He is.
Anthony Blaylock, can you ask Coach Prime
how is he preparing for life after Shador?
I know my son like a book.
So I know all his ways and the things
that makes him who he is.
And when you're recruiting, you look for those attributes.
Like you can't find another Travis Hunter, but you could get close. You could find those attributes that he had.
He may not be a two way player.
You may have to get two guys to be that one guy.
But try to find those attributes that he has that's already in it.
So life after life after, you know,
store shallow or Bucky going to be with me, he's not going to leave me. So life after, yeah, life after, you know,
Shaloh or Bucky gonna be with me.
He's not gonna leave me, but trust me,
I don't look forward to that, but he's coming.
D Talon says, DJ, Florida State quarterback says,
how FSU has fallen from undefeated season
to his abysmal season.
Say he still loves football.
Ocho, I mean. Ocho and time. When you see a guy, he left Clemson, he left Oregon State, he's at Florida State now. Is that a red flag to you
when a guy has this is his third university and say what three years? Is that a red flag to you,
coach?
Yeah. I think some of them keep running, they keep running from competition.
They don't want to compete.
How you go from organ, the Clemson, the FSU, so me based on what you look like this year, It makes me believe you running away from competing.
Right. Is he is he winning the job based on on actually like.
Running the job and holding on to the job to do everything.
been holding on to the job two different things.
True. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Oh, that's a good one right there.
Put the wrong thing in water.
Hey, you know, because boiling water can have two different effects, Ocho.
It'll soften the potato, but it'll harden the egg.
Ocho, I'm done.
I ain't giving you no more, Ocho.
I'm done.
I'm done.
Time out, Ocho.
Let's go.
We gonna keep it moving.
Mo, where you got that from?
No.
Hey, hey, give me that boy of water. No. No. No. Hey, hey, give me that, give me that, give me that boiled water man one more time.
Bad.
What is it, hey, it'll soften the potato
or harden the egg?
Ball in water, it's ball in water.
Two different effects.
Harden one, soften the other.
Ocho, your janky ass almost jinxed though.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Can someone tell us, we can start nightcap early because the Alabama guys
Yeah, I mean listen, that's that's what I thought it was. Listen, the game was lopsided the whole first half. I had no idea
That they were gonna mismanage the clock and allow Georgia to get back into the game. This is this is the rule rule of thumb for coaches
Don't take your foot off the gas.
You're allowed to get back in the game.
The game shouldn't even been that close.
Continue to run the same off as you're running.
There was no hard.
There was no need. There was no need to come out again.
It's a lot easier said than done.
We watched this in a Super Bowl, a team be up 28 to three
and still try to be aggressive.
And it bit them in the butt.
You put Matt Ryan in the shotgun, the guy misses a block,
you cost him a football.
You see what you're saying?
Key word, you saw a team still try to be aggressive.
Alabama team tried to be aggressive.
They were very vanilla the second half.
But they didn't be aggressive.
They won, the other team was aggressive and lost.
Now, which would you rather be?
The thing is, the way I look at it
and what I try to explain to people at Ocho is like,
look, when you have the momentum,
how much separation can you put between you and the team
that you have the momentum?
Because eventually they're going to get it.
They're going to get the momentum.
And when they do, how much distance?
Have you separated yourself enough?
Now, Alabama, because what happened,
they got conservative, your defense,
they couldn't get off the field on fourth down, Ojo.
Georgia was one for 13 on third down,
but they were five for five on fourth down.
Your defense can't get off the field.
Your offense can't stay on the field.
So Georgia's keeping you on the field,
10, 12 plays, Alabama's going three and out.
So you're bringing that tired defense
right back on the field.
What do you think is gonna happen?
And so the next thing you know,
now you're out of rhythm, the other team is in rhythm,
and now you're holding on for dear life.
So I get it.
It's a lie, I'm telling you,
having been in both situations,
Ocho, I believe it's easier to play from behind
than it is with a lead.
Because you can throw caution to the wind.
Ocho, we already down 27th,
so what the hell I got to lose?
Let it rip.
You know what's funny?
Why couldn't Georgia play the way they did
in the second half when you throw in caution to the wind
and start
off the game like that. Start off the game like that. But I think, listen, if you were
to write this story again, or write how you would want this game to go, there was no better
ending than the one they had tonight. Listen, this has to be the best collegiate game of
the year. And I'm not sure there's another another game that will top it this year
based on what we saw tonight.
What we saw tonight was unbelievable.
Yeah, you got to get away.
I left. I stopped watching the game and when I had a cigar break,
I went into the car break.
I come back in and George got to lead.
I'm like, wait a minute.
But what happened?
So now I got to rewind my TV back
and then let it run forward to catch back up.
Alabama DBs and then a defensive back.
Bro, stop celebrating when you're back.
If you can make a pick, make a pick.
In fact, that's the difference between
the good corners and the great corners. Ed Reed was a safety, but he came down with the ball.
Prime came down with the ball.
Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson.
It's not good enough.
I'm doing my...
No, no, no, no.
I'm trying to take these possessions, the defensive possessions,
and turn them into points.
So that's the Alabama, you know, oh, you strapping them down,
but you do realize they got two more down to try to get a first down or maybe a touchdown.
So while you're celebrating and you should, hey, you happy. But bro, if you can get your hands on the ball, bro, you got to come down with it.
Like the DB did in the last play, the last play of the game. That was a big time play.
A freshman at that. A freshman at that. Yeah, I like, I like that he played to a strength to, I'm not, I'm wondering if it was the defensive coordinators, uh,
choice to have him play off on that so we can get his head,
so we can get his head around and on the ball as opposed to being impressed and
be playing from trail and then having to turn around and look and losing the
ball. That's one of the reasons why he got that pick.
But another thing I want to say about,
about DBs is 95% of DBs why he got that pick. But another thing I want to say about about DB's is
95% of DB's Play not to get beat and it's a small percentage about 5% of them that play to make a play
And that for that that small percentage that 5% are those that always turn out to be great
Always turn out to be great
That's the biggest difference between a college DB
and an NFL DB is the ability to track the football.
Ball skills.
The really good, you know, after certain, hey,
if you notice, watch the really great,
the NFL DBs, watch how soon they're like jam turn.
They'll start looking too.
Head back right away.
The ball's gotta be coming up.
You're too far down the field for the ball not to be coming.
And so that's one of the difference.
And the skill set, it is a skill.
I can't teach you that.
You're born with that.
That is innate.
Ed Reed's ability to find the football,
Prime, the ability to find the football,
Rod Woodson, Charles Woodson,
any of these great corners, Trayvon Dees, that is god
given.
Trayvon is a god damn ball hook, right?
That's god given.
I can't teach you that, Osil.
That's instinct, huh?
That's instinct.
It is.
And people don't understand that.
And I made the comparison today.
If you watch Travis Hunter, his ball skills are comparable to Ed Reed, because you think
about it, he's made like two or three of those interceptions.
He's like he's playing off and he
watches the corner and he's diving and laying out.
You watch him undercut that ball at Colorado State.
That's
everybody doing to be able to come off and be able to come off that and know it's
coming that you're in that's you know, you remind me of another player who has pure instinct,
pure instinct and superior ball skills that doesn't get the credit they deserve.
That guy, my son Samuel,
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And we've, this is another one who doesn't get the credit.
I'll tell you, we know he's in the hall of fame. We understand how great he is.
We understand what he did that 2009 season and locking up all the all time greats. But his ball skills, his ball skill, his technique,
his patience, what he arrived you. And once you get past 10 yards, man,
that had come around so goddamn fast. You'd be able to locate that ball.
And that's what happens. Interceptions came from.
Yeah. But see, the thing is with him,
like those other guys, you could tell
they were offensive guys.
Because when they, they ain't trying to knock it down.
Ed Reed was trying to take it,
trying to pick it and go to the house.
Every time.
Brian, Woody, if you look at those guys,
that's why you see them guys, seven, eight, nine, 10,
return touch, returns for touchdown.
Because they're trying to take defense and
automatically turn it into offense. And that is, that is a God gift. I can't teach you
that. So, and I can't teach you how to find the ball. I just can't, I can't teach you
to like, no, okay, here, this is a two by one. They're going to try to overlap this.
I got to play two by one. Yes. I got the, uh, uh, the inside, I got to make sure the inside
cause I got the outside guy. I got about two by one because I got I got the the inside. I got to make sure the inside because I got the outside
guy about two by one because I got to worry about the same also, Ocho. But I got to go.
Yeah. Yeah. I know what you're trying to do. I got this by one. I'm going to overlap you.
I'm going to make you think I got to see, but I'm a picket when you throw it. Oh, yeah. So it is.
It is. It is. It is an unbelievable game tonight. Alabama Jalen Milrow was sensational again.
27 to 33, 374, two touchdowns.
He had an interception.
The tight end has to understand on the pick,
on the pick, he needs to widen
because Jalen Milrow can see what he can't.
If he'd have led him,
he wouldn't have finished the rest of the game
because that linebacker
would have decapitated the mocho and so that's what you have to do you have to widen the guy widen him
So jalen millrow can fit it in that so that's why he put it on his back shoulder because if he the laddie
Oh, you've been out you've
For sure for sure very smart on miro's part to know that just slowing down
for sure. For sure. It's very smart of Miro's part to know that. Just slowing down. Sometimes, listen, a quarterback can save you every time. A quarterback that you're doing can save you every time.
That's the thing. The one that can save you. Because anytime you get a collision,
it's the quarterback's fault. Because he can see what you can't. I'm trusting you that you're not
going to lead me to harm. I'm trusting you. I'm going to do everything I can. Either I'm trusting you that you're not gonna lead me to harm. I'm trusting you. I'm gonna do everything I can.
Either I'm gonna catch it or I'm gonna break it up.
All I ask you is not have the ambulance
come on the field to get me.
So you're absolutely right.
But the tight end, he needs to understand.
But he's young.
You talk about something that I've,
over years, Ocho, to know, to widen.
And sometimes you gotta get, you gotta, you know,
you gotta get hit in your head to understand that it hurts.
Widen the guy, give Jalen Milroy some room
to protect you from the inside guy.
But he went in there hard.
Jalen Milroy tried to back shoulder.
He popped it up.
And in the process, he was about to catch it,
but the DB hit it.
And now, hey, that safety for Georgia 17
He could play night. I think it's 16 or 17
Otherwise, which one was it cuz he got a pick he can play night. No, he could play he gonna play on
Yeah, he got that capability if you don't see you don't see a whole lot
Yeah, and he got something about it when you talk about going to the next level
This is the close you gonna get to an NFL game
Because all the talent that are that they're on the scene if you can stand out on film in a game like this when in Georgia When in Georgia, Alabama
Where it's a bunch of five four four star five star players and you stand out on film like the safety you just called out
Well, you special yeah that boy. Yes that that received it, that's only 17 years old.
That Ryan Williams, Ryan Williams, I know you're going to see this. Listen,
I know you ain't old enough to drink. He's special.
I know you ain't old enough to party, but when you see this, boy,
I need you to send me a DM. I need a Jersey sign.
I need a Jersey sign. If I don't get a Jersey sign in less than 24 hours,
if you don't send me a DM in less than 24 hours,
you ain't getting nothing that NIL money.
Matter of fact, hold on.
I know we talk about Alabama, Georgia, right?
I got to mess with two more players.
Hold on.
So they know I mean business.
Hold on.
Cause they think I be...
Hold on. Go ahead.
But there was a big time game.
There's a lot of big time talent on the field.
There's this game was littered with four
and five star recruits.
You look at the offensive defensive line,
you look at the skill position,
you look at the linebackers.
This is, I mean, there's a reason why Georgia
and Alabama naturally year in and year out
in the top five in recruiting,
because when you play the brand of football and they see all those guys going to the
NFL from the University of Georgia from the University of Alabama
Same thing with Ohio State and some of those big 10 team. Hey
Hey, I want to be like that. Hey, I want to be like Amari Cooper. I want to be like
Jerry Judy and all these other guys
That went from Alabama.
Who is it? Calvin Ridley.
And so I look at Georgia and you see all those defensive players.
N'Kobe Dean, they had Walker and they had Jalen, the big D tackle.
They got two of them. Jordan Davis.
What's his name? Oh, man. Huh?
No, I know N'Kobe Dean, but the Jalen number 98 for the Philadelphia Eagles, they got two
of them, Jordan Davis and the, what's Jalen's last name?
Carter, Jalen Carter, Jalen Carter.
So when you see that pipeline, it's easy for, because the recruits, because the players
recruit.
Coach, you don't have to do a whole not, hey, y'all saw my resume.
Y'all see, we got 60 guys in the NFL.
We got 58 guys in the NFL.
Hey, you see how much money you will sign for?
You see how much this guy signed for?
You see how much this guy signed for?
Yeah, absolutely.
So it's a lot easier to recruit
when you have those guys doing that.
Go ahead, what you got to get out of the boys.
No, I'm not even playing.
I got three people, three people, everybody in the chat.
Make sure they get this message.
I know they're going to see this video. Ryan Williams.
Jeremiah Smith and Travis Honnell.
I want a jersey.
I want a jersey sign and less than you got 24 hours to send me a DM.
Get me a jersey down to Miami. If I don't have my jersey before Monday, before eight o'clock Monday,
ain't nobody getting no NIL money. And you know what that means?
You see, you see, you listen, I didn't got this on for nothing. Ain't none of y'all getting no NIM money no more.
The rest of the season.
Ryan Williams, Jeremiah Smith and Travis Hunter.
I want my jersey, FedEx, Monday morning.
You know how to get my address.
Ask your coaches.
That's it.
And I ain't even playing.
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