Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Alabama upset, Colorado’s Title hopes take hit, Aaron Rodgers returning?

Episode Date: November 24, 2024

Shannon Sharpe & Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jalen Milroe and the Alabama Crimson Tide getting blown out by unranked Oklahoma, 24-3. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss  Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders, Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter and #16 Colorado losing to unranked Kansas in a crucial Big 12 showdown and Hunter’s Heisman odds increasing despite loss, Aaron Rodgers saying he wants to return for 2025, but not with the New York Jets and much more!04:00 - Show start04:30 - Intro06:27 - Oklahoma beats Bama15:25 - Kansas beats Buffs37:05 - 4 Way Tie across the Big 1238:19 - Travis Hunter’s Odds Soar despite loss40:38 - Boise beats Wyoming45:46 - Florida beats Ole Miss48:00 - Auburn beats Texas A&M49:32 - Ohio beats Indiana54:11 - Tenn State beats Missouri State55:47 - Daniel Jones waived by the Giants59:20 - Jets Could Reportedly Release Rodgers in Season(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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games in a season since 2010. I have a question before you even go on, you just said, we started out Oklahoma upsets number seven Alabama. Is it really upset with the way Alabama has been playing all season? Is it really, when you think about it, the way they played all season? Yeah, Oklahoma coming into that game was five and five.

Now you tell me. Okay, all right. All right. Go ahead. But Alabama couldn't stop the run. Oklahoma ran the ball 50 times for 257 yards. They threw the ball 11 times for 68 yards. The one thing Alabama has always prided themselves on defense has the ability to stop the run. Yeah. And they could not stop it. Also, this is what we know about Alabama.

Jalen Milro, when they lose ball games, all you got to do is just go back and look at his turnover and see what he did. Go back to look at Vanderbilt. They lost. He turned the ball over multiple times. Go back to look at Tennessee. He turned the ball over multiple times. Look at Alabama. He turned the ball over multiple times. What he needs to realize, your team is not good enough to overcome your mistakes. They're not, they're just not.

They're not equipped to deal with that. And the way Alabama has always been built is that they take the ball away, they don't give it away. They're normally able to run the football, not allow you to run the football. But this year, they haven't been able to stop the run consistently. And when Jalen Melrose plays a clean gamegland game when he doesn't turn it over

Or he minimizes his turnover Alabama has the ability to win all their games what they've lost three lost the unranked Vanderbilt They lost to Tennessee and they lost to unranked Oklahoma with probably with all likelihood In their college football playoff hope and that's a good thing because all Alabama was gonna do was get in there and get embarrassed. Embarrassed, yeah. But listen, especially for Jaylen Miro, I'm not trying to make any excuses for him,

but the two deepest ends for Oklahoma today caused havoc the entirety of the game. All four quarters, they made him very uncomfortable. He couldn't even get into rhythm. He couldn't get into rhythm if he wanted to and he had happy feet, always having someone draped on him when he was trying to throw the ball. Like you I would love to give Oklahoma their credit to the defensive scheme that they played against against Alabama not only making him uncomfortable but the secondary as well and the

second level playing a few well but they couldn't well they couldn't run the ball. They really, honestly, they really couldn't do anything. No, no. Honestly. And they were one dimensional all goddamn day and the one thing that they could do, they couldn't even do that. Oklahoma is very good against the rush. Well, you know you have, and that's what you do.

When you have a team in your building and you know the crowd is gonna be a factor, what you try to do, you take away the run now we get up to the pin up here's back because we know they're going to be a tad late getting off the ball and I know everybody's going to silent count everybody's looking the guard looks back at the quarterback you ready and then he flashes his hand in front of the uh what you call him that's not the same as being able to hear that snap count because now the the Taffel's got to, he got to try to do this inside, but he's got edge rushes on the edge.

And so now you're just a fraction. And that's all these guys need, that he who hesitate is beat. But give Oklahoma credit, they came ready to play, they're trying to get bowl eligible. It's really that simple. I mean, these teams like, we're not going to the college football playoff,

but we can end on a great note. We can get to a bowl, possibly win a bowl, give us something good to go into the spring, get spring practice for something for us to build on 2025. But Alabama, this is this is a very, very I mean, you look, you lose the unright Vanderbilt, you lose the unright Oklahoma. There's no shame in losing on the road at Tennessee. But you've got to cut down on the turnover because your team is not good enough to overcome that. Jalen Millroad did not play particularly well today.

Well, he didn't play well, I ain't no particular. He didn't play well. You're right, Ocho, they did a great job of getting after him, but they're gonna get after your ass at NFL. I mean, you say you have hopes and dreams and aspirations to play in at the next level. What do you think you're gonna get?

Be able to pack the ball back there like you have 7-on-7? No, you're gonna have to be able to function under the rest. And that's what the great quarterbacks, the great players can do. They can function under the rest. And tonight, and he did not do a good job of that, but they couldn't run the football like you mentioned, 30 rushes, 70 yards.

Now you're one dimensional. I know you can't run it. You know you can't run it. And so now we're gonna put you in second and 10, second and 11, second and long, third and long. Now we just come get you. Really. I mean, they got, they got okay receivers. Uh, Williams is sensational. The freshman, uh, and, uh, Bernard, uh, he number five. So they, yeah, they got, they got receivers, but tonight was not Alabama's finest showing, considering they played a team that was very inspired.

Brett Venables wanted to give it, you know, he hears the whispers, this is not the Oklahoma, Oklahoma don't go six and five. Right. But give those guys credit, give Oklahoma credit. They came out ready to play, they took it to Alabama, and Alabama now for all intents and purposes are done with the college football playoff.

I just don't see how you lose two games to unranked teams. That's three losses, and somehow you still make it in, especially unranked teams. If these teams were ranked, you know, like damn, that is a tough gauntlet, man. You lost the Oklahoma rank, you lost the Vanderbilt rank, you lost the Tennessee rank, but you lost the two of these teams. They were unranked at the time in which they beat you.

I have a question. It's the question for the chat too, as well, understanding how the voters always have some type of favoritism for teams like this. Sometimes the rules are skewed. They do things uncharacteristic to allow a certain team to get into playoffs. How would y'all feel? How would you feel if for some reason Alabama is able to get into playoffs anyway, even, even with having three losses?

Well, look, Alabama has a huge fan base. They're going to travel. They rate very well. Um, but who do you leave? I mean, Georgia seems like they're going to go. The only thing that I hate, Ocho, is that the conference and Lane Kiffin brought this up. He said, there might be a team that's on the bubble, a team that has two losses. They go to the conference, the conference championship, they lose.

They're going to be out. While somebody didn't even make their conference title, get an opportunity to go. Right. So if I'm not, if you're not careful, Ocho, the next couple of years, you watch the Big Ten and the SEC say the hell away with big championships because they don't mean anything. They do, they cause more harm than good. Right.

Because the last thing I want to do is go to a championship game, Ocho, and lose it and get beat. And a team that didn't even make it gets an opportunity to go. Go, yeah. So we're going to see how that plays out. Obviously, the SEC and the Big Ten controls all the cards. Whatever they say is going to go.

There's nothing to NCAA. There's nothing to ACC. There's nothing any other conference can do about it. Those two mega conferences control everything because they have all the blue bloods. They have all the programs. They have the Alabamas, the Georgias, they have the Texases, they have the Ohio States, the Michigan, the Penn State, and yada, yada, yada.

So they're gonna control what college football is going to look like moving forward. And the funny thing before you finish is I understand Alabama has three losses now, but also when it comes down to what we can't forget about is what's the most important factor for these teams when it comes down to teams going into the playoffs. It's all about money at the end of the day. Who's going to generate us the most revenue as well. So despite those losses, I'm just saying for those of you in the chat and those

of you that are going to see this at some point, let's forget what the bottom line is at the end of the day. What team going into the playoffs can generate the most revenue? Yeah. Um, so it's going to be interesting. Um, Texas A&M, um, I mean, cause look, you got, still you got Georgia, you got Texas and you got A&M vying to go to the SEC Championship. So there's a chance that one of those teams don't go, and then one of those teams, the other two teams go, somebody's gotta lose, and guess what?

The other team just sitting right back there saying, woo, thank you. Because it's not that you lost, when did you lose? It's better to lose early than lose late. I've seen that before. But this is going to be very interesting. I don't me. I don't think Alabama would have earned the right to go. I know what their fan base.

I know the eyeballs that they generate through ratings. But losing the two unranked teams, that should be a disqualifier right there. Kansas Jayhawks became the first team in college football history with a losing record to beat three consecutive top 25 teams by knocking off Coach Crime's 16th ranked Colorado Buffalo. Ojo, remember I told you.

I said this is the game that scares me. This is the game that scares me because they're gonna be trying to get bowl eligible. They are at home. They've got nothing to lose. And so I was more concerned about fake points, fake field goals, blitzing when you don't look at it, when you don't have anything to lose, the Colorado, anything goes, anything off the table.

I go for the fourth because they already expected me to lose. Oh Joe, if I go for a fake point and get stopped, so what I was supposed to lose anyway. If I go for a fake field goal they already expected me to lose, Ocho. So if I go for a fake point against stop, so what, I was supposed to lose anyway. If I go for a fake field goal and don't get it, Ocho, so what? If I go four on four downs, and so, yeah, I was supposed to lose. But they played extremely well today.

They ran the football. Without knowing the score, if I told you one team ran the ball for 330 plus yards, one team was nine and 14 on third down, two of two on fourth down. So that makes them 11 and 16 on third and fourth downs. If I tell you said team also possessed the ball for 40 minutes, you can say they beat the hell

out of somebody. Yeah. That was Kansas. Kansas ran the ball 57 times for 331 yards. They possessed the ball 40 minutes. Coach Prime said the Buffalo's fumble their own destiny. They did. We controlled our own destiny. They did. They didn't need any help from anybody.

They didn't have to say, you know, sometimes in football. Well, if Pittsburgh beat Cleveland and then this team, and then the Houston Texans beat Jags and Indy, Ty, we can get in. No, all you had to do was win. And you were in the driver's seat. You were in the catbird seat. And they came out a little slow offensive before you know it was 10-nothing.

Then it was, it was what? It was 17-seven. 17-nothing? 17-nothing, excuse me. And Travis Hunter gets a touchdown, gets a sensational block. He goes in for the touchdown. And it's a 17-seven.

They get it to 21-23. You're like, okay, now we got something to settle in. But don't show. It was second. Okay, they got a holding call. So it's first and 20, but they got a sack also that made it second, that would have made it second 11. Coach Prime declines it. Rob Livingston, the D coordinator, has their run lifts on. They got the guy. It should be third and 13. They missed Neil who had an outstanding night running the football, 37 carries, 207 yards, three touchdowns. So what should have been third and 13, he gets 25 yards.

Shy Low Horse calls him, he gets another 15. So what should have been third and 13, all of a sudden it's a 40 yard game. Yeah. Mistackle after mistackle. They had to have at least 20, 20 or more mistackles. I mean, at some point I'm like, right, bro, they not gonna throw the ball.

Why would I throw it when I can turn around and hand it off and get the same amount of yards if I were to throw it. Anyway it was it was it was working every time it was working every time and obviously the defense couldn't get off the field not only could the defense not get off the field but offensively what the Kansas defense did to the goddamn Bucks is they always kept him in in third and long. Yes. It was they always kept him in third and long over and over and they kept them in third and long. Over and over and they made them one dimension because they couldn't run the ball. If you can't run the ball on offense

and they know you have to throw at some point, it makes it that much more difficult for your offense to be effective. Chidora can only do so much. Travis Hunter can only do so much. You gotta be able to run the ball, especially against a team like Kansas that has quality players,

despite what their record may be knowing that they have nothing to lose. I'm throwing the kitchen sink and everything else I got right at you. Yeah. Neil 37 carries, 207 yards, three touchdowns. He had four catches, 80 yards, one touchdown. Um, he caught a little simple swing pass out of the backfield. Right.

They missed too many tackles. Shiloh has to understand everything can't be a big hit. He takes some terrible angles, Ocho. He really does. He be trying to, he's what we call a thumper. Yeah, but thumpers end up hitting the back of the guy's jersey as he run into the end zone. Because in order to be a thumper,

you gotta take great angles. Because you got to go to the point where you think you're going to be and you got to get there. I read that. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So if you get if you take the wrong angle, you already played because your momentum is not going to let you change directions. And he has to understand that everything can't be a big hit. It's OK to sometimes just get the guy on the ground. I know the crowd goes crazy.

I know your sideline goes crazy when you throw those big hits. But what it does, it puts you in a vulnerable position because a lot of times you're gonna be out of position. Yeah. And on that long run, he took a terrible angle. He did. Yeah, he had 13 tackles, which is not good because he's a safety.

That means your first two levels did a horrible job. Yeah. Yeah. A horrible job. Hey, that got damn Devon Neil, boy. He played, he had hell of a game today, boy. Two on the yard, 37 for two Oh seven. They ran the ball 57 times for three 31 and three touchdowns.

That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Colorado only had 40, they ran 42, they had 42 snaps that counted. They had 29 passes. Shandor didn't play, Shandor had 23 or 29. He had a touchdown. Right.

He had a touchdown, the guy made a great play, imploded out, give him credit, Shepard caught the ball, and the DB came over the top and ripped it out. Yeah, he did. Give him credit. Shepherd caught the ball and the DB came over the top and ripped it out. Yeah, he did. Give him credit. The guy get defensive.

Sometimes we gotta get, can't say every time a play is made, you can't say, well, the guy dropped it. No, the guy defensive guys, they get, you gotta give those guys credit also. He made a great play on the ball. But Ocho, when you, like I said, when you, uh, time of possession is 40 to 20. Yeah, lopsided. They had almost 300 more rush yards than what Colorado had. So when you lose the top time of possession, when you lose, uh, when you lose the top time of possession, when you lose the yard rush yardage, the total yardage.

Yes sir. And you can't force the team to turn it over. You can get beat. You are, I mean you are, you just go, it's really that simple. And they squandered a great opportunity. Now, guess what? All those people that have been hoping,

they've been quiet. Oh yeah, they're gonna be loud. They're gonna be loud, huh? Oh, they're going to be as loud as possible. But still, even with them being loud, you still have to understand, this is a successful season based on what they did last year. It's still a successful season.

Even if you don't have an opportunity to play in the Big 12 Championship, what you've been able to accomplish, they ain't gonna be holding your head down. I'm just saying in general, I'm being Tip. What you've been able to accomplish. They end up really holding your head down. I'm just saying in general, I'm being optimistic on what they've been able to do in such a short amount of time. They don't look at it like that.

111, 111 to four and eight to eight and, wait, to seven and, wait, what's the record now? They were one and 12, they were four and eight, and now they're eight and three. Yeah. But Ocho, Ocho, if I dislike you, I don't see any positive in anything you do Okay, okay, but you understand works. Yeah, you know we when you're hating you always find something wrong, right?

And if you're a nitpicker no matter who the person is or how much or no matter how great that individual or Here team success may be I'm always gonna find something wrong. You can do that I mean it's easy to do that. You can pick by any goddamn thing. You can. You can. If that's what you choose to do. But if you look at it objectively, I don't think you can say that coach time

has not done a good job with this football team. Go from one and 12 to go from the four and eight to here we are eight and three and you go into a bowl game. You close out. How many games they got left too? Yeah. They got Oklahoma State at How many games they got left, too? Yeah, I think- They got Oklahoma State at home, who they got else?

That's the only game they got at home? That's the last game? Oh, okay, okay, so they only got one game left. Okay, Oklahoma State. Yeah, no, I'm not going to look. Look, y'all, if you watched the game, you, OK. So we only got one game left. Oh, OK. Oklahoma State. Yeah. No, I'm not going to look at. Look, you know, if you watch the game, you saw it. I know a lot of you guys don't look at the game the way I look at it, because I'm not looking at, OK, yeah, they score.

OK, fine. I look at why they scored. I'm looking at the formations. I'm looking at the coverages. I'm looking at the front. And I'm looking at a lot of different things to try to come up with the best when I come in and I talk to you to tell you this is why what happened. There were terrible run fits, there were terrible angles. Like I said, Neal should have been tackled a couple of times in the backfield, but negative yards.

He's getting 10 yards, which should have been a negative play. Guys just missing tackles, taking terrible angles. Coach Crimes said the guy's success is intoxicating, and terrible angles. But you know, Coach Crime said the guy success is intoxicating. And maybe that was the case, but they definitely did not come. When you go on the road, Ocho, you have to, you know, they're going to swarm early. You have to match that intensity. Yeah, it's hard to spot a team on the road.

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In order to spot a team, 17 points and have an opportunity to come back. Your office got to be hitting on all cylinders. Uh, AM says, Shannon, you're not the only one watching the game analytically. Okay. Do you want to get a chance to talk about it? What's your podcast? cuz I want to hear Are you on television linear television? I mean just just shoot me a hop back in there and say wait This is what I'm doing this time breaking the day down And I said I said a lot I didn't say all there's no such thing as all in every right

But I know most people are not looking didn't break down tape like you and I did for a living. And now all of a sudden I can't, I don't really get an opportunity to really enjoy the game, Ocho, because it's just not about touchdowns. It's just not about sacks and interceptions. I need to know why I need to know how. So that way, when I go, when I go on before, when I'm doing night cap or I'm doing EFPN, I can talk with a high degree of certainty. This is what happened and this is why it happened.

Not to say everybody doesn't watch it like that, but normally people that didn't play the game or doesn't have a job that's in television where you have to talk about it, don't look at it like that. You just don't because you don't know what you're looking for. So, just hop back in and just let me know,

because I wanna hear your analysis on it, because I really wanna see how you do. I wanna see how you break down the game and how you look at it. Yeah, I do. Because I mean, when I hear guys on television, a lot of times, like Saturday night, a lot of times I see things kind of similar.

Dan, Dan looks at it from a quarterback perspective. Yeah, he and I, we see some things the same. I kind of see things more like me and Saturday kind of see things. Even Ryan and Fox see things differently than I do. I take an approach, okay, things. Even Ryan and Fox see things differently than I do. Right. I take an approach, okay, this, I remember going back

and I was like, okay, they were in this front. They were in this front, they were in this coverage against this formation. Okay, why, that should have been covered. Right. It's like, Ocho, we was talking about, bro, how do you give up when you got quarter? You got deep quarter He got deep quarter. He got deep quarter. How do you give that up of the post? Normally? Every time why are you down? Why are you down there trying to take an outroute away with that's Roe Quine Smith responsibility?

That is not your responsibility Right, that's what that's what left me baffled. They told me and Cam was like, hey, hey, you know, sometimes the woman, you know, she she dangled that skirt in front of you. Yeah. But Cam, he married. He ain't supposed to look. I mean, that's that's what I'm saying. He can't look. Right.

I already got somebody because that's not his responsibility. And so it was it was was, it was tough to watch, to see Neil, how he ran the ball with such conviction. I, it's been a while since I saw a guy that ran angry. The first guy did not bring Neil down. Not once, not once. I am not going down with the first contact. It's going to take more than one.

And even if you, you know, you got his leg, he will stumble it for three, four, five yards. Yeah, he always fell forward. He always, he always did. He was always passed the second level every time whenever he did get tackled. He was always passed the second level. Yeah, and so like I said, when I, your corner, your safety have 13 tackles.

Yeah. Another guy corner had nine tackles. Another, nah, that's too many. That's too many. That means, that means the, the first two levels are not doing a good job. And that means guys are up on the second level because they only have 14 completions.

So it's not like you're getting a whole lot of opportunities to tackle. You had 85 total tackles, Ocho. Woo. That's not good. That's not good. That's not good. But look, all is not good. That's not good. That's not good. But look, all is not lost.

You get an opportunity to finish up at home. You win the game at home. You're nine and three. Now you're probably going to go to a really good bowl game. Because it is Coach Pratt. It is Shadour. It is Travis Hunter. People don't want to see that game. They'll travel.

So I think they'll get a very good game. Go ahead, Ota. Now we talk about seeing them in a big bowl game. Now we know Travis Hunter and Shadour Sanders are going to the draft next year. Do they play is the next question. Do they play in the bowl game? Because you know how players have been sitting out the past few years? Yes. Passing up the bowl game. So that's another question that comes. True, true. And we've seen a lot of that happen lately. If you go back and look at Bryce Young,

Bryce Young didn't make the college football player. He played in the final game. A lot of these teams play, their players play. But if they didn't play, am I gonna hold it against them? No. No. And seeing, okay, I don't know if you saw this play with the linebacker from Kansas, he went into, that's dirty, that's Butch Lee, bro.

He went low, hit the knee, that play? The only thing that saved Shadour, he was a split second and he got that leg up. Had he not got that leg, had he not got that foot at the dirt, there's no way, there's no way that guy doesn't rip the knee and it was intentional because his head was down He was not a he was going for the man's knee. Hmm. Yeah, and that's Bush League, bro. That's Bush League I mean you wouldn't want some you wouldn't want someone to do you like that

I don't know what the guy young man's draft status is but you know karma man his draft status is, but you know karma man. Karma sometimes, you know, sometimes it's long. Sometimes it's long and other times it's like Amazon Prime. They'll get it to you the same day. Yeah. So girl be careful, but that was a Bush league play. Bro that was a Bush league play. And look, I'm not saying Colorado friends

don't not send a man death threats. You look, you can be funny, you can be upset and you have every right to be upset. But it was a Bush league play. It was a dirty play. It was an intentional play. Can't know one. I don't care what his coach says. I don't care what his parents says. I don't care what he says. That was intentional. He made, it was deliberate. I'm going at the man's knees and I'm going to do what I'm going to try to, I'm going to try to take him out That's what that was that was that was that was which league it was

Should or spoke about the dirty play hit it up the game on Joe He said it doesn't know how the play was legal given a non call from the officiating officiating crew Mm-hmm. I don't I don't know how that's legal overall. I understand that but you know, it is what it is It was a couple of plays like that. But yeah, it was. Shadour also had a chippy moment between him and the ref. Shadour took issue to one of the officiators, blocking him from getting in the face of the Jayhawks and chose to shove the official.

The officials did not throw a penalty on him or the shove. Shadour, just just be careful, bro. Yeah, because at the next level, you're going to get tossed. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Cause at the next level, you're gonna get tossed. Oh yeah. It's really that simple. You're gonna get tossed out of the game. If you put your hands on official, when there's a confrontation between you or team

and whatever the case may be, you're gonna get tossed. It's not worth it. And plus you're the quarterback. I understand when emotion is high, logic is generally low. But just be smart. Just be smart. You're the quarterback, I understand. When emotion is high, logic is generally low. But just be smart, just be smart. You're too valuable. That's not a good trade off because the official stays in the game and you get tossed.

I know the game was over, but hey, just be smart. Just a lesson learned, something to move forward. I'm, look, I'm not telling anything that his dad is not gonna have a conversation with when they get home. If they haven't had the conversation already. So I'm be smart. You're much too valuable.

That's not a good trade off. Even if you were to show up a player, you get tossed, he get tossed. How is that a good trade off? Messed up the whole game. Yeah, absolutely. But give them a gift. Give Kansas credit. They are they're bold. They need one more win to be bold eligible, right?

Your five and six. Kansas, they need six wins to be bold eligible. So they put themselves in position to be bold eligible. They're the first team and does they have a losing record to be three ranked teams consecutive yeah that's that's that's good coaching they could have easily given up on the season but you know what it's a no we look we still got something to play for they're playing the tails off and congratulations to Kansas Jayhawks if they take down the number 16 Colorado Buffalo's by the score of 37 to 21. Now, it's a four-way tie atop the Big 12.

Arizona State, six and two. BYU, six and two. Iowa State Cyclone, six and two. Colorado Buffaloes, six and two. Man the bus. No two teams from Kansas, Kansas State and Kansas Jayhawks. Beat them.

Yep. Yep. Damn. Yep. Damn. Damn. Let's see what happens. This is a four way tie and probably what do they take? The highest ranked, the higher ranked of the teams? How are they gonna settle this?

Okay, well, none of these teams, they didn't play. So you didn't play anybody, but Arizona State, right? Did they play Arizona State or they played Arizona? Because I don't think any of these teams that have the tie ricks, they didn't play BYU, they didn't play Iowa state and they didn't play Arizona state. Okay we'll get you that information. Travis Hunter. The tie team will be compared based on their head to head records during the season. Well, to my estimation, I don't think Colorado played into the team that they're tied with. Oh, Joe, that team will be compared based on percentage against common conference

opponents. OK. Tied team will be compared based on percentage against common conference opponents. Okay. Tide teams will be compared based on win percentage against the next highest placed common opponent in the standings based on record of all games played within the conference. Man, that shit too complicated. Excuse me. Man, that thing too complicated. Hey, we just gotta wait for this thing to play out on with y'all. It always has been. It always has been. You would have to really be, really be, what's the word I'm looking for? Really have great understanding on how the format works in general to understand, knowing the team's records

and how they judge and decide who goes in because sometimes it gets confusing. It's damn near like calculus. Yes. Because it used to be okay head to head and then common opponent. And then how, you know, what did you do in the conference? Strength to skill.

Yeah, yeah, you know, that in the NFL, you know what I'm saying, that's the way it was, okay? Head to head, division, conference opponents, common opponent, man, I ain't got time for all that. Travis Hunter odds soars in spite of a loss. He hauled in 125 yards receiving two touchdowns on eight receptions. Hunter eclipsed 100 yard receiving

mark for the sixth time this season, tying a single season school record on defense. Hunter, seven total tackles, two pass breakups, and were an interception. Here's the thing, Ocho. Yeah. He got that interception, Here's the thing though, Ocho. Yeah. And he got that interception, which he don't.

Oh, re-up, re-up the planet? Yeah, yeah. They didn't go ahead and send him to high. But they didn't go ahead and send it to him. Listen, you might as well. You might as well, especially, he almost had it too. If they'd been one foot of ground, he would have caught that. Yeah.

Drav King Sportsbook now has him as a minus 800 favorite ahead of Aston Gentry, who has the second best odds at plus 650. I just don't, unless he rushes for 400 yards and six touchdowns, I just don't know how he overtakes him. I just don't know, Joe. He's not, he's not, no. He's not going to overtake him. Listen, Travis Hunter is going to win the Heisman Trophy.

Everybody can see that. Everybody can see that. Now I would hope, and again, I've said it before, those that are doing the voting, I would hope that they don't allow their personal bandana against Prime, maybe not like them for whatever reason it may be, but don't allow your personal issues with Prime

to take away from a player's success that's doing something absolutely phenomenal and spectacular that's been done before but never been done to this magnitude. Don't do that. Don't do that. Oh, damn, he big as hell, boy. Hey, I'll whoop him. Right, man.

And then titles you get boy, you get it. Boy, I love you too. But maybe Bart making more. Is it now all Bart until you come in here to house? You come in the house. He bite, oh he bite? Oh hell yeah. What? I see you, I see you.

All right, off. Oh, he listen too, boy. You say off and he cleared it. Boise State defeating Wyoming 1713. Asstin before mentioned, Asstin Gentry. 20 carries, a buck 69. One touchdown. Now, if I'm not mistaken, Ash, what is he?

2000, he needed 107. So now he's what? 2062? Rush yards? I think he had 1893. So let's go with 2062. I'll take 2062 for 800, Alex. Hey, I like S and G is good.

Yeah, he's good. And that's what he's having. He's having a great season on show. Yeah. But I'd be personally, I don't think he's the best player in college football. No. Now, if he had put together a Barry Sanders type season,

okay, now we tell Joe, 11 games, 2600 yards. Yeah, we got a conversation. We got a conversation. Oh, but he is good, though. He's unbelievable. You don't want to take anything away from him, especially what he's doing from a statistical standpoint.

But what Travis Hunter is doing running back. Yes, it's one thing. Yeah. Being able to play both sides of the ball consistently every single goddamn snap and play at the level in which you're pitching on both sides of the ball man what Travis Hunter is doing man is something different man it needs to be seen as such you knocked it off, he's playing unbelievable. I mean, he got out the gate for the first carry with 61 yards. Uh huh.

And so look, they saving it. He only had 19 carries. Yeah. So he was, he's playing good. Look, I don't want to diminish the man because I think the guy, I think he's a phenomenal football player and he's having an unbelievable season. But I just don't think we've seen anything like Travis Hunter. No. We've seen guys.

Look, I'm old enough to remember champ. Champ from Charlton County. Our teams used to play each other a lot. I watched champ at the University of Georgia. Woody, Charles Woodson. I remember when Woody came out, he went to the Raiders. We played against Woody a lot before he went, you know, obviously I retired, he went to Green Bay.

Who else? Was the guy from UCLA. He was a running back, he was a running back and a lineback, Miles Jack. Yeah. Miles Jack, he was freshman of the year, defensively, he was phenomenal. But this kid here, this kid here,

bro, y'all stop that. Oh, he ain't playin'. See what they try to do now? Wait, what'd they say? Travis Hunter ain't playin' one elite team. You see what they do, Ocho? Hold on, hold on, hold on. I have a question before you say that.

Now again, this is where we talk about nitpicking. Where you get nitpicking. Well, we can say Asson Gentian played against- And played one lead team. Yeah, I mean, you can say the same thing. Okay, what are the elite, okay, if they don't mind me asking you, what's the elite team? Well, he did play, I think Boise State did play Oregon.

Are we saying Oregon is the lead team? I mean, obviously. How did he do against Oregon though, huh? He went for like 100 or something. Oh, he's gone over 100 every damn game. Every game, yeah. Yeah. I think people need to understand,

if you're not a casual fan, you understand a player's skill set and understand the skill set that they do have will translate to any team that they're playing. And that's what Travis Hunter is. Regardless of who they're playing, what he's able to do from a skill set that they do have will translate to any team that they're playing. And that's what Travis Hunter is. Regardless of who they're playing, what he's able to do from a skill set perspective, he can do that on any guy.

It doesn't matter who it is. But I just don't like, I mean, y'all try to do anything y'all can to undermine anything. Always. He had 192 against Oregon. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh, he legit. He's legit. But it seems to me what they would, they would, they'll do

anything to undermine anything that see you because it's related to Coach Brian. Yeah. You watch the game. I just said. What that guy's doing. you watched the game. Yeah, I just said what that guy's doing. You watched the game. Right.

Look at the level in which he's playing it. He just out there. Yeah. He's intercepting the balls. He had a big force former that ended up winning the game against North Dakota State. He's in a, you know, outstanding interceptions. Look at the touchdowns. Look at the plays that he's making. They get a man is credit, man interceptions. Look at the touchdowns. Look at the plays that he's making.

They get a man's credit, man. Y'all, I mean, come on now. I get it. But like I said, I think Aston Genty, he deserves the dope Walker. I think he's an All-American, no question about it. But in my estimation, watching them both play, I think Travis Hunter is the best player in college.

Florida knocks off number nine Ole Miss, knocked them out of the college football playoff with a 24-17 win in the Swamp. Florida, which is top LSU last Saturday in the Swamp, beat ranked teams in consecutive weeks for the first time since 2008. We're just getting started. Billy Napier said,

this is a part of the big picture journey. Believe is the most powerful thing in the world. Ole Miss, which came in as a 10 point favorite, lost for the first time in four games and will drop out of the 12 team playoff picture. out of the 12 team playoff pitcher. Florida. Yeah, I mean, look, this is the Florida we expected to see early.

We didn't expect them to be as bad as they were. They're six and five now. They got off to a very, very sluggish start. Whoa, a horrible start. They were not playing particularly well, but Billy Napier has turned his team around, got him playing extremely well. They did a great job of getting keeping Jackson Dart.

They confused him a lot of plays. They got after him when they have four sacks. They have four sacks. Excuse me, picked them off twice. Give them credit. Okay, they played well. And you know, the swamp is not an easy place to play. I mean, it's not, it's not, but they had played,

they'd been playing so bad early where they were playing home away. I didn't even respect this. If I was a gambit man and I was gambling and betting on the game today, I would have had Ole Miss winning. I would have had Ole Miss winning this game so the fact that Billy Napier has been able to to get up a whole of his team and get them to play different and not And not um, what's the what's the word I'm looking for not lose themselves, you know

Sometimes the coach loses his team when players stop playing but they just feel like well hell the season is over We're gonna chalk it up But he found a way to get the boys to turn it around and they been playing some goddamn good football as of late. I know Lane, I know Lane, I know Lane Kevin. Mad as a motherfucker. Yeah, yeah. So Ole Miss looks like they about to have the same fate

as Alabama out of the college football playoff. Oh, Ole Miss looks like they about to have the same fate as Alabama out of the college football playoff. Auburn, unranked Auburn upsets number 15, Texas A&M. So now the number 17, SEC, the number nine team, SEC, and the number 15 team all lose today. Texas A&M lost 43-41. All lose today. Texas A&M lost 43-41. What is it? After two scores, you gotta go for a two point, so now everything is a two point conversion.

And Auburn scored, Texas A&M did not, and Auburn upsets Texas A&M by the score of 43-41. And I think that's the only game Alabama got left is the Iron Bowl against Auburn, right? Which will not be easy. No, hell. What if they lose that? What if they lose that?

Is it Auburn or is it Alabama? And back to the, it's an Alabama Ocho. And to make matters worse, if you think about it, on fourth down, you remember Colorado, it was on fourth down and then Shadoor ended up throwing the ball out of bounds. And it was like six minutes to left. Yeah. Kansas never gave him the ball back.

No. They ran it, ran it. Run. And they killed the clock and ran it right down they throat. Yep. Right there and I'm, it's stacked the whole box. I mean, you couldn't, you couldn't, you couldn't stop it running all goddamn game. Stacked the whole box. So, number two, Ohio State, hands number five, Indiana. It's first loss of the season by the score of 38-15. All Ohio State has to do now is beat Michigan at home next Saturday and it will earn a return to the Big Ten

Championship game for the first time since 2020 and get a rematch with number one Oregon. The Ducks beat Ohio State 32 31 in a wild one point back on October 12. This time the game will be on a neutral turf, a neutral site, neutral field. No, I think I think the Big Ten, they played their championship game a little at Lucas Oil in Indiana. But Ohio State played well today. Will Howard, 22 of 26, 201, two touchdowns, one of the reception. They ran the ball, the ball 29 for 115.

Yeah. What's that? True or false? Man, my homeboy Jeremiah Smith, the first game he didn't score, man. Yeah, he only had one kick. He had, nah, well hell, I mean, they only had 22 completion.

What'd he have? He had three catches for 34 yards. Yeah. 22, they had 20 or 22 receptions for 201 as a team. They didn't really do anything. The defense was suffocating. They won this game defensively. Ocho, they held Indiana to 151 yards, 83 rushing, 68 passing.

Let that sink in. A team, they had eight of 18 for 68 yards. three Russian 68 passing, let that sink in. They had eight of 18 for 68 yards. They had 41 carries for 83 yards. 151 yards of total offense. They sacked the quarterback five times, eight tackles for loss and they picked him off. Yep, defense, defense, defense, defense.

Yeah, this was a defensive game. And you look, offensively, Ohio State did what they needed to do. They got, they capitalized on, you know, the field position that they got. Great punt return to get them going. But this defense was all over Indiana. And so I, look, I don't follow Indiana that close.

I don't really know how good they are. I know there were 10 and old coming into this game. They were the fifth ranked team. It's gonna be very, very interesting to see where they ultimately ends up at Ocho. Obviously they're not gonna make the cup. They're not gonna make the big 10 championship, but they're still an outside chance

because they ain't, find no harm and losing to the number two team in the country on the road. Right. I'm sure the voters will take that into consideration. When one would hope so. Uh, they've done crazy things, but the number two buck guy, if they beat Michigan, they earn a trip back to the Big Ten Championship where they'll face off against the only team that's beaten them, the Oregon Ducks, which

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Saturday at Nissan Stadium with Lef the Tigers knocking on the door of the FCF playoffs. They share the title, Ocho. Tennessee State finished the regular season in a four-way tie, first with Southeast Missouri, UT Martin, Tennessee Tech, and the Big South Ohio Valley Conference. Eddie George makes Tennessee State case

for an FCS playoff berth. Tennessee State ended the regular season by winning seven of its last eight games, something that may benefit the Tigers with the FCS playoff committee, which often favors team on the uptake. So congratulations, Eddie. Congratulations. Congratulations.

Tennessee State Tigers. Unbelievable, we were down there at the HBCU Tour. My best friend, obviously Keith Byrne, he's the special teams coach. So I am very, very, very happy that you guys have finished the regular season nine and three. FCF committee Be spiked Lee do the right thing

Y'all know what y'all should do. Oh, yeah, they won seven of eight Congratulations, Tennessee State Tigers Co-champs of the big South Ohio, Ohio Valley Conference of the Big South Ohio Valley Conference. Very happy for you guys anytime HBCU do something. Man, you know we proud over here at HBCU, that's what we do. We're very proud of you guys. Congratulations, Eddie.

And Tennessee State Tigers and all their fans out there. Daniel Jones, damn, that escalated quickly, Ocho. Daniel Jones has officially been waived by the Giants. Saquon Barkley rooting for a fresh start for Jones. Jones went once to go to a team go to a playoff team huh? Who? We say that again? Wait read that for me again read that for me again real slow. Read it for me again.

What I'm gonna do I'm gonna press rewind and then I'm gonna hit play. Okay. Daniel Jones wants to go to a place. I'm a press rewind. Then I'm gonna hit play. Okay Daniel Jones wants to go to a place Daniel Jones wants to go to a playoff team. Okay Now let me let me get this straight. So Daniel Jones wants to go to a playoff team He not even he wants to go to a playoff team where they already have a quarterback in in place But I'm assuming he wants to go to a playoff team. So not, he wants to go to a playoff team where they already have a quarterback in place. But I'm assuming he wants to go to a playoff team so he know the field likes to win.

Okay. And maybe be the backup. I'm assuming that's, that what do you mean by saying it? I don't think he means to actually start or contend or compete to be the starting quarterback for a team that always has a start or starting quarterback. According to Adam Schefter, Jones is expected to have multiple options,

but likely would prefer to finish this season on a playoff contending team, where he would be involved in big games rather than going to a Mandarin quarterback needed team, not remotely in playoff contention. But if they go, if you go into a team, you're not, I mean, so what, you just want to see what it's like? Yeah, I think that has to be what he mean, huh?

But he's already been to the playoffs. Hey, hold on, think about this real quick. I don't mean to break it down. I'm not sure how good you are with being able to name all the quarterbacks in the league, but think about all the teams that are playoff or in playoff contention or even in the hunt. Even in the hunt, huh?

I mean, how many teams actually need a quarterback? None that's in the playoff hood. Yeah, exactly. That's the whole point. So I think he just wants to experience knowing what it feels like to win and to be competing in the playoffs or being in contention in general.

It has to be what he means. Go to the cowboy. But here's my thing, Ocho. When I look at it, maybe he needs to go somewhere with a different culture. Because sometimes it is culture. You get, you get caught up on show. Um, um, the way they coach and the way they do things, and maybe

that's not conducive for you. You get into a new situation. They practice different. They meet different. The coaches coach you different. They talk to you different. I don't know. I look, it didn't, when I heard it, I did,

I'm like, oh, you wanna go to him? I can see, Ocho, you're a wide receiver. You're a running back, you're a defensive player. Okay, I get that, because there's an opportunity. But there's only one, because all the other positions, you can have multiple positions at the same time on the field. But when you're a quarterback, you can only have one.

And I'm looking, I'm like, well, so, going to a team that's in playoff consideration or contention, what are you gonna do? Right. Oh my goodness. I mean, it has to make sense. The only thing that makes sense is based on what he's saying, he wants to be somewhere where maybe he's not going

to be the starter. We know he's not gonna be a starter, but I wanna be somewhere where I can be on a team, where I can be a backup, if need be, I can help, but I would like to know what it feels like to be contending or be challenging for a playoff spot with that team. That, that, that, that, hello, that got to be it, obviously.

Yeah, so you want to rewind that thing and press play again, Ocho? Nah, nah, that was a good one. That was a good one though. That was a good one. That was a real good one. The Jets could reportedly release Aaron Rodgers this season.

In season. Let me repeat that again. Say it again, say it again. Now rewind now, rewind it again, rewind it again. Go ahead, rewind it. Go ahead, rewind it. Play. The Jets could reportedly release Aaron Rodgers in season. Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not with the Jets.

Whoa. What? Time out. Time out, man. Time out. Time out. Hold on. Let me get my flag. Let me get my. Let me get my flag. Is a flag on the plate. Let me get a flag. Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe heehehe he is he going? You know what's funny? You know what's funny? When it comes to a quarterback like this, with a resume like this, even though the NFL is all about what have you done for me lately, when Aaron Rodgers says, you know what, as desperate as teams are to have a quarterback, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets the opportunity after what he

just said. If they do release him, if if the jets do release him and start over, as far as searching for a quarterback and Rogers will get a job simply because of what he's done in the past, they can hold on to that. They can hold on to the, for how many, how many times MVP for, for she, Oh Joe, he's one of some of old mesh. Diana Rossini, Diana Rossini, he talks about the Jets. Let's listen what she has to say.

Yeah, I'm told Johnson has lost confidence in Roger's ability to lead the team to the playoffs for the first time in 14 years, a drought that now stands as the longest and major North American professional sports league. There are some on the team who believe everyone is simply tipped on around the fact Rogers isn't the same player anymore. Some around the league say they won't be surprised if Rogers is cut in the season.

As far as Rogers, his relationship with the owner has been strained for months. That's not a secret in the building or the locker room. At this point, after conversation with sources with the team and around the league, my understanding is Roger's stand still wants to play in 2025, just not with the Jets. I like it. I like it, but I don't like it. I like it, but I don't like it. Cause I want to break down, I want to break down the other 31 teams.

There are many teams that don't even need a quarterback. No. What teams can Aaron Rodgers go to where he can make a difference, where he couldn't make a difference where you're in New York? They gave you a baby. They gave you everything you wanted.

They gave you everything you wanted. You wanted Adam? Yes, about the Adams. You got, you got Lazard. You got Breeze Hall. I mean, come on now. Remember Ocho last year. Remember last year they got a, uh, what you call them random car for it. Yep.

Yep. And then, and if he is to go to a team, it has to be a team where he doesn't have to do much because his supporting cast can hold him up. He can't go to a team that has less talent and make them better. He needs somebody to uplift him. The longest time he could uplift other play of his teammates. He can no longer do that. Yeah.

Time to change. Time to change. So there's nowhere for him to go. Huh? There's nowhere for him to go. Hey, if you think about it, it's nowhere for him to go, huh? There's nowhere for him to go. If you think about it, there's nowhere for him to go. Where are you going? Tell me so we both know.

Man, listen, man. I think, listen, Aaron, Aaron, what? You better focus and lock in. You better focus and lock in because you're going to be on the outside looking in in a minute. Bro, football, Ben stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers. Y'all can see what y'all want to say.

Aaron Rodgers, Ben, and football was the... Football gave him ability to have the cachet to talk about all the other stuff that he carried to talk about. Right. Y'all know this. Y'all see it. Y'all see the man's demeanor. Y'all see his behavior. Y'all saw the way he conducted himself. Football, Ben stopped being important to Aaron Rodgers.

Yeah, he's one of the few, he's one of the few, you know what, Aaron Rodgers has what most don't, what mostly all quarterbacks do, he has privilege. And he's one of the few, how does he have that privilege? He abuses that privilege and the power that he has because of what he's done in the NFL. Yeah. The few that does it, you know?

Yes. Nobody else will be able to get away with some of the things. Can you imagine you, forget you, because you follow the rules. Let's say me, who bent the rules and always told the line and never crossed it. Can you imagine if I say, you know what?

I'm not going to Minicab, I'm going on a retreat because I already had a free plan. Can you imagine? Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah, I can imagine. They defined your culture. She's what are you talking about? That's what happened.

Hey, all I know is that Antonio Brown didn't go to a team meeting and they cut it. Yeah. They had a meeting and had a walkthrough in the ballroom. He didn't team meeting and they cut it. Yeah. They had a meeting and had a walk through in the ballroom. He didn't show up and they cut it. Yeah. They don't play. They don't play. Certain people.

All right. But see, y'all get upset with me. When I tell the truth, see, my thing is, I don't know why anybody would question. Because y'all see, I call it right down the middle. It doesn't matter if you're Aaron Rodgers, you're Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Lamar Jackson, or Patrick Mahomes.

If I see it, I'm just gonna be honest. I've been telling you guys for the longest, Aaron Rodgers is an arrogant, condescending, lipid. He blames everyone. He takes no responsibility for himself. He blames everyone. He takes no responsibility for himself. He's been that. He's always been that. But that, he won MVPs, so everybody overlooked it.

Now he can no longer be an MVP. Everybody's saying what I've been saying for years. Yeah, but you know, when you had that kind of, when you had that kind of resume like Aaron Rodgers, when you had that kind of success for so long, you know, when you're a franchise quarterback like that, and when you're a Super Bowl champion, you extended a different type of grace.

Yes, for sure. Especially at the quarterback position. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. But I, O position. Yes, absolutely. Absolutely. But I, Ocho? Yes, sir. One of the things, you know what I'm saying, boy, if you not careful, you'll become the very thing

you despise the most in a person. He despised the way Brett Favre treated him. Treated him, yeah. Did he not turn around and become the very thing he despised the most? Yeah. He would. Yeah. Yeah, he would. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, have mercy. See, y'all don't wanna listen to me. Oh, I'm talking, I'm talking like he, but see, I don't know what he talking about. See, y'all say, I'm talking a lot. Y'all don't really be saying I don't know what I'm talking about because when it come to fruition,

the first thing you say, oh, Captain Obvious, well, why didn't you say it? If it was so obvious, you could have said it. Look how he got out of there. He didn't want to come to many camps. He wanted everything to be his way. Isn't that what Brett Farb isn't that why they got Brett Farb? Now, where did Brett Farb go when he left Green Bay?

Tell the people at home, Ocho. The New York Jets. Ocho, tell the people how long did Brett Farb stay in New York? One year? Yeah. And we're, hey, hold on, hold on. Where'd he go next? Where'd he go next? So are we saying that Aaron Rodgers is probably going to beat him in Minnesota?

No, McCarthy got J.J. McCarthy. They got J.J. McCarthy coming back next year? No. And he's already missed a year. You're not going to send him back another year? No. Right. And I'm drafting the quarterback.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not I'm not what is that Roger's gonna do at most He plays a year and you think I'm gonna pass on a quarterback for a year Are we sure he can elevate my team the jazz thought he could how that work out for them They gave up draft capital and they're worse off than they were when they had rock when they had of Zach Wilson When they had Sam Darnall when they have whomever else they had Rock, when they had Zach Wilson, when they had Sam Darnold, when they have whomever else they had at quarterback. Bruh, you're not getting a Tom Brady ending. You're not getting a Peyton Manning ending.

Wait, oh wait, what if he changed his mindset? What if he changed his approach to the game? Or it's too late? It's too late? Oh Joe, how you do something for 20 years and you won MDPs and you won a Super Bowl, you change your mindset. Tom Brady couldn't change his mindset if he could,

because he still had that underdog mentality. All he saw himself, as accomplished as he was, was a sixth round draft pick that nobody wanted until the sixth round. That's all he ever saw himself. He always felt I gotta go in and prove that I gotta make the team. Even though after one Super Bowl, two Super Bowl,

three Super Bowl, MVP, MVP, MVP, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, Super Bowl, I've got to prove it. Peyton Manning every year, prove it, prove it, prove it. It's always been about him. He's always been condescending. They always been flippant. He's always been arrogant. He's always been a loop. You overlooked it because he's winning the piece.

Now, he's playing player. You know, you don't change when you lose, right. You don't change when you lose. Right. You don't change. See, losing doesn't change who you are. It reveals who you are. That's what losing does. It reveals your kid. You don't build character.

It reveals it. This is who he's been. It's like just like just like anger. It's like, just like anger. Just like anger and just like someone that drinks. Yes. You finally get to see someone true colors. Yes. People are like, oh, he got money, he changed. No, money doesn't change you.

It makes you more of what you already are. You don't get money and become generous. Right. You don't. That's always in you. You don't get money and become a jerk. You've always been a jerk, but you were a minor jerk because you didn't have the power and the money

to be a asshole. So that's what money will allow you to do. People that have money and that are nice and respectful, they've always been that way. I guarantee you, you go look at anybody and they'll tell you, I don't need to call no name, but when they got money they say, they been that way. Right. But if we're on the same level, how can I be a real jerk when we're on the same level? But let me get a little advantage over you. Yeah.

Listen, money does some strange things to people. It does, it does strange, it does some strange, strange. Yes. It's hard to remain yourself. You know, it does strain. It's just, it does some strains, strains. It's hard to remain yourself. You know, you get it. But if you are able to control it and don't allow it to control you, it's a beautiful thing. Who were you before you had the money? Shoot, cheap as fuck.

Who were you before you had the money? That's all I ask. Is that who were you before you got the money? That's all I ask. Who were you before you got the money? That's who you are now. You just have the opportunity to really, to really show that you got money. You really give people your ass. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

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