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Episode Date: May 11, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to Round 2 of the NBA Playoffs featuring, Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves defeating the Golden State Warriors in Game 3, Derek Carr ret...iring from the NFL, and much more!01:47 - Intro03:30 - Warriors vs T-Wolves25:00 - Celtics vs Knicks32:16 - Nuggets beat Thunder41:50 - Pat Riley on Jimmy Butler trade fiasco49:11 - Derek Carr announces retirement from NFL54:55 - Saints coach Kellen Moore to rotate all QBs(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Ocho, as I mentioned earlier, the Wolves go on the road, take down the Golden State Warriors,
102 to 97, go up and snatch home court back to one. It took an outstanding game from Julius Randall, a triple double,
24 points, 12 assists, 10 rebounds. He also, for good measure, had three steals.
But Ant-Man took over the second half. He had 15 big points in the third, 13 big points
in the fourth, and Jadon McDaniels came along in the third quarter. He was 101
from the three, what, 202 from the free throw line. Big, big points for him, and
they go on the road and they get home court back and take a 2-1 series lead. Now, Jimmy Butler was having an outstanding game.
He had 33 points, with about eight and a half minutes to go.
And he didn't score another point.
He was gassed, Ocho.
He played 43 big minutes.
He played the ball.
Well, Ant-Man played 44.
Ant-Man might've played the entire second half
because he normally gets a break at the fourth quarter
at the intermission, so he plays the whole third quarter.
And normally starts on the bench in the fourth quarter,
but Chris Fentz like, nah bro, you got to suck it up.
And plus you're only 22, 23 years old.
I think he might be 24.
But you got to go.
And he went and he did what he was supposed to do.
What a superstar is supposed to do, find ways.
He got aggressive, got to the line,
and man that hammer dunk that he put on Kavon Looney.
Mm-hmm.
It got him going, it got this team going,
and they smashed back home court 102 to 97
from the Golden State Warriors.
Ocho, watching this game, how it shaped up,
I thought the Warriors gonna win this game
without Steph Curry.
Like, okay, now they got some breathing room,
let him relax, and so now we probably not gonna even think
about bringing it back to maybe game five, game six.
Now, what did you like about what you saw
from those T-Wolves on the road?
I mean, from the Wolves, obviously being on the road,
Julius Randall, Julius Randall cut a fool,
he cut a fool with understanding how important this game
was for him and being able to contribute
in helping Anthony Edwards
and the rest of the team collectively
and making sure he does what he needs to do
and getting his shots and being efficient.
The face of the league, he showed up tonight.
The face of the league, let me say it one more time,
the face of the league showed up tonight.
He had 36, he got to his spots.
He managed the game very well in his shot selection and went to win the shoot to three.
When he put the ball on the floor, and he got to the hole, he drew fouls and did what
he needed to do. I like the way Anthony played very aggressive tonight. And they gonna need, they gonna continue to need him
playing the way he played tonight,
along with Julius Randall, for them to have a chance,
especially once Steph comes back,
especially with the way Jimmy Butler played tonight.
Once Steph comes back,
game, what'd you say, game four or five, you think?
Now, he's not gonna be evaluated until right before game five. So he's out the net, he's out at least game four or five you think now. He's not gonna be evaluated into him right before game five
So he's out the next he's out at least game four for sure. No concern
You think you think you think for certain he's out game for I don't know for some reason
They're not gonna re-evaluate him until game five. So yes, he's out for game four
He's not gonna they're gonna re-evaluate him even if if, even at the process of reevaluating him, there is no guarantee
that he's playing game five, but there is a break between game five and six.
There's a three day break between game five and six.
We might not even get to a game six.
If they don't have, if they don't take it, they don't win one of these next two
games, there won't be a game six.
You know what?
The entire off season to get healthy.
Right. Hey, Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy Butler and Kamiga, man, they played real good on.
It is. Kamiga gave him great business. 36 minutes off the bench.
11 of 18, three or four from the three, five or six from the free throw line.
He had six rebounds, three assists, two blocks.
Uh, he played extremely well. He's plus five plus, plus minus.
He gave you 30 points off the bench.
Yeah. And I don't understand some...
And me, as someone still learning the game of basketball,
and I look at someone like Jonathan Kaminger,
come off the bench in half 30. He left for 18.
He had six rebounds, you know, and three assists.
He was plus five, which was best among the worst.
And you look back, and I'm trying to understand it
Wrap my head around how Steve Kerr wasn't playing him. I just I just I just don't get it
Especially you get this kind of production. I don't I don't
Get that kind of production either been starting but that's the problem
He's up and down but I think the main thing is oh Joe
He doesn't leave him in long enough because look this is a veteran ballclub
And so these guys used to playing together.
They know how to play the game.
Draymond, especially Draymond and Steph.
So when you are a veteran ball club and you're a young player, they don't make
excuses for you making mistakes as you being young, understand what you're
supposed to do, do it at a very high and efficient level, or you're going to sit down.
What's the saying? Cut off my nose. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's all. Listen, when you have a player
like that that's putting up numbers like that, even with the inconsistencies and knowing what he
can do when he is consistent and when he is on and give you games like this, even though it was an elusive effort,
you want that, especially with Steph being out.
You want that on the goddamn court.
But listen, the only way they're gonna have a chance
is they're gonna have to have a three-headed monster,
especially from a scoring perspective for the Warriors.
It gotta be Jimmy Butler.
He gotta score a will.
And especially, and I don't wanna say garbage time,
that's more of a football phrase,
but towards the end of games, he can't gas out like that
because the scoring has to come from somewhere.
If it's not you, it got to be Kaminga.
If it's not Kaminga, it got to be Buddy Hill.
Well, the fact that the matter is that he has to play
because he and Draymond are really the two
that initiate the offense.
And as far as going and get their own shot,
it's really only Jimmy.
So if you take him off the court,
where are the points gonna come from
where you really don't have another guy
that can go get his own shot?
Now, Kaminga had it going tonight,
and maybe in the future,
that's something Steve Kerr has to look at.
And he says, okay, maybe I can give Jimmy
a blow here or there.
But I don't think tonight he was willing to chance it
because Jimmy did have it going.
He looked really, really good early.
He was getting to the free throw line.
But that's what happens, Ocho.
I mean, and when you hit that wall.
Yeah.
It's a wrap, huh?
It's a wrap.
Ain't no coming back.
It is.
And you see, he just go another bucket for eight and a half,
almost eight and a half minutes.
Hey, but also, yeah, he don't have the legs or the energy to do so
because they was, they was contesting everything.
And then you say, you talk about Jimmy Butler having to be in, because there's
no one else that could put the ball on the floor and create their own shot.
Hell, I seen Kaminga do it a few times.
But that's what I'm saying.
That's maybe that's, and maybe moving forward, that's something Steve Kerr has
to look at and says, okay, I can go with Jimmy, but are you willing to trust that?
Have you seen enough of Kamingo have these type of games
that you feel totally trust that, you know what,
I can take Jimmy off the court for two to three minutes
and let Kamingo do what he does?
They don't have him in long enough
because you just said it, they're a veteran team.
They don't have him in long enough to be able to allow him
to have games like this.
So, I mean...
Yeah, but still, but see, to allow him to have games like this. So, I mean, yeah, we still wouldn't.
But see, you have to look at it like this.
When Steph's on the court, when when they had Clay last year.
You run the office, you run the office for Kamingo,
you run the office for Stephen Clay, for Stephen Clay. Exactly.
And so I think the thing is, and he got Nick,
maybe lost a little confidence by not playing.
He also mentioned that, you know,
it's hard to get a rhythm when you're in and out,
in and out, in and out, and so playing extended minutes.
But I think their backs against the wall now.
I don't really think they have a choice
but to play him a substantial amount of minutes.
Draymond needs to understand, Ocho.
In that situation, why would you contest that dunk?
You got five files, you just picked up your fifth foul on an overturn because they called a foul one way,
but they said Draymond got the foul on Draymond. So you got five fouls.
Why would you give up the two points?
Because you are more valuable than two points. And by not doing that,
so now you really only have one guy to initiate the offense. Yeah, Kamenka can get a shot, but I ain't asking Kamenka
to bring the ball up, set the offense,
and that's not what he does.
Now, if I get the ball down on the post, yeah,
he can knock down a shot, but like Jimmy can initiate
the offense, that's not what Kamenka can do.
Draymond can initiate the offense,
but he's not looking for his shot.
He's initiating the offense to get people off back screens,
pin downs, flares, whatever they want to run.
That's what Draymond can do.
Draymond, look, anything Draymond gives you
over four points, thank you Lord.
That's what you're hoping for.
He's mainly an assist, he's mainly a rebound,
he's mainly a defensive stopper.
So anything he gives you in the point total,
as the points increases, that's another plus.
He gives you six, what, one plus, eight, two pluses.
He gets you in the teens, boy, you're like,
woo, Lord, thank you, Jesus.
That's a good night.
That's a great night.
But, you know, foul trouble and, you know, look,
at some point in time, he asks you like, you know what?
Because Scott Foster's one of those guys,
you're not going gonna intimidate him.
And now they're looking for call stuff on you.
Hey, what's the other guy?
Scott Foster and the other,
the black guy who don't be called in nothing.
He don't play either, he don't care who he is.
Oh, 20 Brothers?
Yeah, man.
You got 20 Brothers, you got Mark Davis,
you got Bill Kennedy.
Oh yeah, I don't know that stuff.
You got Mitchel. I mean, I go to the games, so I know him. Oh Bill Kennedy. Oh
I mean I go to the I go to the game so I know him that's our
Josh Timmons you got in Maloy
Yeah, well, you know, but you know, you know all the rest
Going to the game
Tool I forget I get forget the two ladies. I forgot their names.
But I see them, you know, hey, how you doing?
Great.
Good job, blah, blah, blah.
You know, just chew the fat with them right quick.
But you know, just see them, like I said,
I talk to them and this stuff, you know,
during the break, they ask me how to do it.
They pass me the ball.
But it's, you know, it's,
but I think in that situation like that,
in a situation like that, Ocho,
Dreymon just conceded.
That's two points.
Just let him go on.
Just let him have two points.
Because if it's his fourth foul,
okay, you wanna contest it, that's five.
But you got five, and you just picked up five.
So you come back down, and in less than 30 seconds,
you're out of the ball game.
You're out of the game, yeah.
He's your best defender.
So now, who you gonna put on Ju Ramble?
Right.
Andy, Andy, you know, he's the best defender, and he's undersized.
Yes!
But he has, he's undersized, but he has a big presence.
I don't know if that makes sense, if you know what I mean.
Yeah.
Julius Randall had 24 points, 10 rebounds, 12 assists,
three steals, only Steph and Yoke,
Nikola Jokic, have recorded a stat line
better in a playoff game in the 2020s.
Julius Randall became the first Timberwolves player
with 20 points, 10 assists, and multiple games
in a single postseason in franchise history.
Jimmy Butler's last points were eight minutes
and 16 seconds left in the fourth quarter.
Kamenga had a career playoff high of 30 points.
He had six rebounds, three assists, two blocks, plus five.
His previous playoff high was 18.
Now, moving forward, considering he had an out-of-body game,
you feel comfortable he can put another game
like this together, Ocho?
Absolutely. Okay. Because when you have a game like like this you know what that does for your confidence right I would you talk about you know when you when you
meet that young lady you going you going your first date you're going your first
date with her and it's a hit the conversation was good the food was good
you know she reciprocated everything you did. Um, you know how you feel going into that second date?
What? You, you feel, you feeling like, what?
I can't wait.
Camila has to be feeling extremely good.
Especially with the thought about, he's going to remember, you know, all these times,
I ain't even get to play in the game.
Coach Kerr had the media and analysts and punters talking, thinking there was issues with me.
Or him and I were, you know, we're beefing or whatnot. Coach Kerr had the media and analysts and punters talking thinking there was issues with me or
Him and I were you know, but we're beefing or whatnot and now I finally get opportunity to play
a good amount of minutes a good amount of minutes and look what I was able to do
Yeah, so that that that in turn just boost your confidence tremendously
So I'm expecting him to have a repetitive performance along with Jimmy Butler and
Goddamn Buddy Hill, but I know one thing
The face of the league ain't going nowhere
The face of the league ain't going nowhere
He's probably gonna have another repeat performance as well and try to hurt to getting the boys up out of here in five
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Paz got to play better. He played 39 minutes. He was one of 10 from the floor, one of four
from the three. Five points won't get it done.
Uh, you got, I mean, you got commingo coming off the bench and giving you 30. You got Jimmy Butler giving you what he gave you.
Uh, but the rest of your two starting, your best, your
starters gave you 14 points.
That's not nearly good enough.
Not nearly good enough.
I know Tyson Jackson Davis only played 11 minutes.
Uh, he and, uh, uh, Looney split a lot of time, but I need more from Paz.
You playin' that long a minute,
you gotta give me more than five points.
You got to, it's an absolute must.
Dre'mar's gotta stay out of foul trouble.
He can't argue every call,
because at this point in time, they look.
They're not lettin' him get away with anything.
There are stuff that I saw that Dre'mar would normally
get away with in a regular season game.
They're not.'s Scott Foster.
The last one you want to tinker with Scott Foster and he, it looked how many
times he done gave Chris Paul the hook.
Hey, Hey, him and Chris Paul, they got, they got beat for real.
Yeah, for sure.
They got beat for real.
So with that being said, Draymond just going to have to be smarter, have to pick and choose his spot.
Everything is not...
Everything is not for, like, to have a heated conversation about.
It's not for discussion. It's not for debate.
Because now it's like, okay, you think that was a bad call.
Where do you get this one?
Oh, yeah. 23.
They human. People don't understand what you got.
No, no, they're human.
Right.
You talk to someone sideways and they get an opportunity.
It's just like I tell people all the time
when it comes to Hall of Fame voting.
Now, you don't gave these people your butt to kiss
for 10, 12, 14, 15 years.
Now you want them to put all of that aside
when it comes down to Hall of Fame voting.
How'd that work out?
It doesn't know you can't do that.
You can't treat people. You can't treat people.
You can't give people your butt to kiss continuously and then ask them to do
turn around and do something nice for you. They are human.
I understand what they got a job to do, but even a job now, if they were AI,
that's one thing they don't have no feelings, no emotion tied to the thing.
And they just, okay, it is what it is.
But when you're dealing with the human element of anything, you gotta be careful.
And great minds just need to be smarter about this and pick and choose the spots.
Everything is not a foul.
Everything, yeah, they're going to miss some, but they're going to be tired.
They're going to give you some calls that you probably did
deserve when you didn't earn.
Right.
And so that would be, you know, me sitting up here from the
peanut gallery, trying to try, trying to tell a four time champion or two time,
a gold medal winning, uh, uh, basketball player, how he should go about it.
But you have to pick and choose your spots with these, with these, uh, uh,
officials, um, I don't know the other guy.
I know it was, uh, Scott Foster and Mitchell.
Um, um, I think Mitchell Irving is his name. Been at the other guy. I know it was Scott Foster Mitchell
I think Mitchell Irving is his name. Isn't that the other official Mitchell Irving?
I'm almost certain that's
Hey speaking to Dre Mon, but this was so funny I'm talking about I might have been in tears about 10-15 minutes where on Twitter obviously Dre Mon after the game
He made his comments about people trying to make him out to be the angry black man.
So I saw somebody made a clip,
you know, it was what he said to the media after the game, right?
And then they had like a two, three, maybe four minute clip of Dre Mon
doing all the, we say antics, you know,
or the fling of the arms and the kicks by accident.
When I tell you I was in tears rolling.
I'm talking about, it was so funny, man.
I love Draymond.
Listen, I'm telling you, for me, for me,
if I was playing that somebody, I would love to play with.
If I had to go walk in a dark alley and had to fix somebody to NBA, then I with. If I had to go walk in a dark alley
and had to fix somebody to NBA,
then I won't by my side to go walk in a dark alley
because we don't know what's gonna happen.
It's Draymond.
So I appreciate his enthusiasm, his passion for the game.
Right.
Sometimes you're the bearer in the brunt of your own issues.
Okay, did you see,
we had that discussion about a
100 men or that silverback. Did you see that silverback barely touching that coconut with his fist and splitting it open?
Oh, who you telling?
Who you telling? That's why I don't understand people even with the hypothetical
I don't think you understand the strength of an actual silverback gorilla.
And he didn't do like this here. He like
Yeah, yeah an actual silverback gorilla. And he didn't do like this. No. He like. Yeah. Yeah. I was just thinking like I gotta make sure I get this. I gotta make sure I get this thing.
Hey man listen people don't understand. Forget that. Did you see I know it's kind of gruesome
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Well, the one that had that he totally disfigured,
he was a pet, and he got loose.
Yeah.
Ugh.
Because, I mean, you talk about something.
Let's just say the eight times the strength of a man.
Right.
A little regular, yeah.
Let's just say the average man can bench 200 pounds.
Right.
If he's eight times, he can bench 1,600.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think people understand how strong that is. he probably got a bite force he probably got a bite force
of a thousand. Easily. I told you listen if it's a hundred dudes I'm gonna go I'm
gonna beat them I'm gonna be 100 though because I need to be the last one so I can live and tell the story about the other 99.
Yeah, but this is a very good game.
I mean, I like games like this here.
This was a very good game.
It came down to the wire.
Minnesota got their big guns.
Ant-Man and Drew Randall, they did what they were supposed to do.
Your two best players need to take the game over.
Now one of your best players is on the sideline for Golden State.
Who is going to come along with Jimmy Butler?
Well, Jimmy didn't come along the last eight, 16.
And I think if he could have given him anything,
it might have been a different ball game.
Who knows? We'll never know, Ocho.
But all I know for the last eight minutes and 16 seconds,
Jimmy didn't score a point.
And so now you're asking get points from Draymond,
what Draymond found out. Now you're getting asked to get points from Draymond, with Draymond fouled out.
Now you're getting asked to get points for Jackson Davis.
Nope, that's not happening.
Buddy, you gotta run sets for Buddy.
Buddy ain't getting it off the dribble.
Every once in a while, I saw him shake somebody.
Mike Colley might've been, but that's not his game.
Kaminka was having an out of body experience.
He was playing really well.
Quentin Post, again, got in some great cardio, zeroes across the board.
He cut into his cardio session after the game.
Gary Payton, 26.104 from the field, 0 or 2.
He didn't have the impact that he normally does.
And whatever, Moody has kind of fallen out of the lineup.
So, Moody, now Kaminka's kind of getting Moody's minutes, Ocho.
I can remember in the previous series, Moody played. Kaminka really didn kind of getting Moody's minutes, Ocho. Because remember, in the previous series,
Moody played, Kamenka really didn't get a whole lot of minutes.
And so, the roles are reversed now.
Celtics crushed the Knicks.
Oh, they got lucky.
Who?
They got lucky.
What you mean who?
Who?
The Celtics.
I know my baby watching, she's been talking about the Celtics.
She all happy, you know, bouncing off the walls, because the Celtics won today.
I told you, listen, the Knicks let you have this one.
They let you have it, they let you have it in the garden, so don't be too happy because
the series will end in three more games.
Yeah, with Boston taking it.
You don't want, oh, whoa, whose side you on?
I ain't on no side, I just thinking, what's it called, let me get this.
The Celtics win, they crushed the Knicks, 115 to 93.
They had 71 points at the half,
and it really was never threatened after that.
They got six guys with them.
They had Jason Tatum had 22 and nine and seven.
Al Horford had his best game of the postseason, 15-9.
Derrick White had 17.
Jalen Brown had 19.
But the leading scorer was off the bench
with Peyton Pritchard.
Eight of 16, five of 10, two of two.
He had 23 big points off the bench
as they used a balance attack to route.
They was 48% from the field.
They was 50% from the three-point line, 20 of 40, 15 of 17 from the free throw line.
They did a great job all around and they went going away. Who did it? Jalen Brunson did have 27 points, but he was 9 of 21. Cat five of 18 he had 21 and 15. Josh Hart had 10. Mikael Bridges had
12 but it was not nearly enough. This game was never really close Ocho.
Never and I don't understand. We at home you got an opportunity. I'm talking about we.
The Knicks are at home and have an opportunity. They kind of really
put this series away, right?
They kind of do.
So I think about it.
I think about it the past two games.
You know what?
At one point in both games,
the goddamn Celtics was up by 20.
So I don't know why in my mind,
the thought even though they're playing in the garden,
that maybe they would be able to hold the Celtics
and someone would keep the game close.
But again, the Celtics, man, they just shooting and scoring at will. Yep, and then the lead there is okay
It's back up to somebody so I'm watching the game. I'm like, okay, it's up to 20 hell
Was that 25 at one point? I like, you know, okay
This is the game that the Knicks like to play they let him get a lead
Let him get right let let him get no and in arms, and then they come back and they run him on down.
It was never able to happen today.
And I thought maybe the Knicks would have played
a little better, Kat would have been a little more efficient.
Jalen Bronson did what he could, but defensively,
hey, they corralled him, huh?
They contested everything and they made it very, very
difficult for Bronson.
I'm not sure how many turnovers they had,
but they turned the ball over a few times. That goddamn Payton Pritchett what?
Now you see why he won sixth man of the year. Hey man. Well listen he won sixth man of the year
but he's supposed there how many teams in the NBA? 30. 30 teams in the NBA right?
Mm-hmm. I think he should be starring somewhere else.
They're not coming off nobody's goddamn bench, not playing the way, not what I saw tonight.
You know, I ain't really paid, you know, Brother Pritchett really don't mind.
I really focused on Jaylen Brown, Derek White, and goddamn Jason Taylor, man, what they gonna
do.
But wasn't Payton Pritchett today, man.
He had 23, 8, wait, 23 with 8 for 15.
He was 5 or 10 from 3.
Man, he was nice.
He was nice.
The Boston guards, they tossed Knicks from deep and shit.
It was all over.
Especially with the way they would shoot at night.
It was all over.
Yeah, I mean, that's what, in that look,
they didn't shoot the 60.
They shot the same amount of threes
as they shot in game two.
The difference is they made half of them and you know if you turn it into a
three-point game and you're gonna shoot you're gonna make 20 22 25 threes it's
gonna be a harder let's the team match that you see the Knicks was five or 25
20% so they plus 45 from the three- line on you. That's crazy.
Where you gonna make that up?
Now, again, I will say this, they got to the free throw line.
The Celtics shot 15 free throws, the Knicks shot 35.
So you're plus 18 in free throw attempts.
But you're only a plus nine in free throw makes.
One team was 15 or 17, the other team was 24 or 35.
But this is what we know.
The Celtics did a better job of closing out
the third quarter because what had happened
in second quarter, what happened,
they were not closing out the quarters.
And so they have these big leads, Ocho,
and now all of a sudden Boston going to run,
and now all of a sudden they've closed the distance on you.
Now they got confidence confidence they start the fourth on a
6070 run and at one point in time it was a 20-point lead they close out the once they close out the third on a
11-2 run and now they're going to set now all of a sudden. It's a five-point game
Now oh damn what happened?
That team got confidence're kind of reeling
because you just had this big lead, you're like, uh oh, here we go again. Yeah. But I
got to give the Celtics, you have to give the Celtics a lot of credit. They held their
composure, they held their pose. The Knicks tried to make a little run, you know, they
were like 25 and next thing you know, they cut it to 17. Um, Azula called a timeout.
They pushed it right back to 23. So, um, get, look, they're the champ for a reason.
Big Al Horvath, 15 points, nine rebounds, two blocks, six of nine from the field,
three or four from the three point line, fourth all time in playoff games with
two blocks and two plus threes.
This is what he gives you.
This is what he's capable of giving you.
This is what you expect for him to give you.
Presenka's, uh, you know, he had a couple of blocks.
He had three blocks, had 19 minutes.
He was five or six from the free throw line,
gave you five points, but it was Al Horford today.
Kat did not take advantage of him
like he did in the first game.
With the first game, or maybe the second game.
But he had that on the block
and he did a number on Allen.
Hey, Allen been in the league this long for nothing.
Yeah.
He understand, he understand and he go back and he's going back and watching
tape and see where cat got the best of him.
He's like, okay, I'm gonna see, I'm gonna send you to your weakness.
I ain't saying I ain't gonna let you play to your strip, but give our credit, give
the Celtics credit because they came out with a single focus
That was a dominate this game. They got off to the great start
They had 36 in the first quarter got 35 in second quarter 71 at the half and once they got that they didn't look back
They were able to relax they closed out the quarters and they just knocked down the shots. They were open
Yeah, I don't think they did anything different. They just knocked down shot when they were open
They knocked those shots down and they were able to close our quarters.
Yeah, most definitely. That was it.
I mean, once they came out of the half, Boston outscored the Knicks by 16 in the
second half. Damn bench outscored the Knicks 42 to 23.
At that point, it's really no answer for the Knicks when they playing that well.
The Nuggets beat the Thunder last night in overtime.
Aaron Gordon in the fourth quarter in overtime
this postseason.
He's shooting 54% from the floor.
He's shooting 47% from the three,
100% from the free throw line.
Cluck.
Nikola Jokic and the Thunder let one slip
because Nikola Jokic had might have one of his worst games.
Well yeah, he said it himself too.
And they still won.
Second most missed shots in a playoff game,
he was over from the three point line,
so he was over 10 from the three point line.
He had eight turnovers.
So he was five or 23, he had 16 points.
So he had more shot attempts than points.
That's never good.
Right.
But when you got Aaron Gordon doing what he's doing, Michael Porter
Jr. had a signing big time threes and then Jamal Murray.
I mean, what, what do we, what, what can we say?
What can't we say about Jamal Murray?
He gets into that zone and he started dealing late in the fourth and the third, in the overtime.
And then Aaron Gordon, we've seen him hit big threes.
In the game one, Rush pushing,
Brown get the rebound, push your head to Russ.
Russ push, passing to Gordon on the wing,
bang, knocks down the three.
Last night, three-pointer, the tie of the game.
In the fourth quarter, late, steps up,
no hesitation, knocks it down.
Yeah.
That's what you have to have.
That's the mark of a really,
that's the mark of a really good,
what we got here,
of a team that understands the moment.
Yeah.
They understand the moment.
We here, we here for a reason
Pull up that game from last night. I got it
um, I
Mean look at this Aaron Gordon 22 points plus 15 Michael Porter jr. 21 points plus 7
Nicole, Ayokich had 20 points plus 5
Jamal Murray, 27 points plus 14 plus minus Kristen Brown had eight points plus
six, uh, Russ, Russ gives them that energy.
Russ, I mean, look, like I said, it's a roller coaster.
You, you, you never know what you're going to get.
You're going to get effort.
Son, just play hard.
That's what coaches always say, son, just play hard, full speed and that we can teach you everything else. We can't teach how just play hard. That's what coaches always tell you, son, just play hard. Full speed and that.
We can teach you everything else. We can't teach you how to play hard.
Uh-uh.
I know Russ is going to go, yeah, he's going to miss some easy shots. He's like, damn Russ.
Yeah, he's going to take some middle of five shots.
You're going to say, damn Russ.
And he's going to turn the ball over. You're going to say, damn Russ.
But you're like, damn.
How Russ get that rebound?
Man, how Russ get that steal?
Man, Russ, fuck Russ get that rebound? How Russ get that steal?
Man, Russ, not that down.
Yeah. Yup.
You will say damn and yeah, a lot.
And you have Russ attached to it.
Damn Russ.
Yeah, Russ.
Shay Gilders did not have a good night.
Seven and 22, only 18 points.
Jalen Williams had it going.
He had 32 big points. Chet Holmgren had 18 points.
They didn't get much from Lou Dort.
The bench did not give him what they gave him at home.
And normally, the bench plays better at home.
They got what, two points from Wallace,
seven points from Wiggins,
two points from Joe, Iza Joe, Caruso gave him seven,
Jay Williams gave him five.
Yeah.
But you had, Nuggets had four guys with 20 plus.
Hey, that's how you answer the bell.
That's how you answer the call.
You're going to a hostile environment.
You got championship pedigree already.
Well, Nuggas were home.
Nuggas were home.
Oh, they were home?
Yeah, the first two games was an OKC.
Oh, yeah, the first two were an OKC.
My bad, my bad.
But being able to come back away from a hostile environment
and being in front of your crowd.
Obviously, the Nuggets.
After getting blown out by 43.
Yeah.
They're in that Denver shot, 49, 40, 45% from the, from the goddamn field.
They had 16 threes.
Jamal Murray did what Jamal Murray did.
We're used to seeing that.
But when nobody's really talking about it, we talk about Aaron Gordon, right?
Yep.
In the game he had, in his shooting prowess now to this point, Aaron Gordon has evolved
this game because most of the time we talk about Aaron Gordon, we talk about him being a high flyer.
Yep. We talk about him dunking the ball, you know, catching alleys and stuff like
that. So his game has evolved to now, well hold on. Now we can't just leave him
like that. We got to close out on him. You know, he could put the ball in the
flow too. So now he's become more of a, that much more of a valuable player because the shot is on.
He had 22 points.
He was 7-4-11.
Hell, he was 4-4-6 from three.
And we'll be talking about.
So I think, I think them boys gonna be right.
Shade can't have another game like this.
No.
Not, not, not, not, not with, not with Williams and goddamn Shade showing up.
I think, I think Shet had what 16, 17?
18.
Yeah, 18 and William, I think William continued to-
32.
With 32, now Shay, you give us a little bit better than 18
and what we used to seeing from you, you know?
I think they would have been all right, but he didn't.
But you already know what he can do.
You already know what SGA can do.
He probably won't have another game like this.
The, I don't even think this game could have been,
the Nuggets gonna have to do a better job
of keeping OKC off the glass.
They had 18 offensive rebounds.
You get that many offensive rebounds,
you gonna get a lot of second chance points.
Yeah.
And that's the problem that they have.
They had 18 offensive rebounds.
The Nuggets had five.
Five.
Yeah.
Do you know how many second chance opportunities
you're giving a team to beat you?
It's kind of like, at some point in time,
what you gotta get up to field on third down.
You can't keep 11 team get three cracks at you
and another three cracks and another three cracks
because pretty soon the levy is going to burst.
Wait.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, points in this series, the thunder have scored 372 total points.
The nuggets have scored 340 total points, but the nuggets are up to one.
Michael Porter, Jr.
is playing through a shoulder injury that should have sidelined him for the six
weeks.
I'm not doing that.
Porter said he suffered a grade two sprain to his AC joint
in his left shoulder during the first round of the playoffs.
Man, them AC joints, I don't know if you ever had one, Ocho.
And you said grade two,
but that ain't nothing to play with, what?
So he ain't picking that shoulder,
that shoulder ain't going much higher than this.
Uh-uh, that's about it.
I had them.
If they ain't pay for boy.
They are.
But you know, old Joe, you know what we do?
Put that medicine in there, go all that day.
I took, I took, I took the pill.
I just took a little pill.
I had a little, I took the pill and had a little harness where we're strapped,
it's strapped down right here.
Won't you let go of it so high?
Yeah, I could only go up so far, yeah.
But it's hard.
I mean, you see a lot of defensive players
play with those harnesses.
Because they don't have to have do all this and all that.
Especially lying back as a delimber.
But if you're a wide receiver,
that's man, it's virtually impossible.
Or tight end, it's virtually impossible
to try to play with that thing.
Yep.
And the whole time, your body catch everything. Yeah, your body catch everything
I'm jumping I'm jumping, you know across the middle for digs and slants
I'm about to go hit you between the eight and the four and now you're jumping and catching it in your bread basket
Catching everything in the bread basket
I've been there, but the Nuggets get
Come back take home court.
22, 21, 20, 27, the big guns fired yesterday
for the Nuggets and they went in overtime 113 to 104.
Yeah.
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I will always say that to the players.
If I was coaching, keep your mouth shut.
I'll see you next training camp
when you get back on the court.
But it's different today with players.
It's over.
I wish him well.
Good luck to him.
And I hope deep down in his heart somewhere,
he wishes us well too.
I just turned 80.
I'm proud of 80.
It's the new 60.
I mean, that's how I look at it. I feel great.
I'm competitive as hell.
See what I said, Ocho?
You see what I'm saying?
What did he say?
I would tell the players to shut their mouths,
but he also said in the same breath, it's different now.
Well, if it's different now,
who else needs to be different if it's different now, Ocho?
He does. He has to evolve, see?
You know why he said what he said? You can tell we had that conversation. Now you believe me?
See, I told you. I told you. I said, Pat, you're gonna have to loosen the reins a little bit.
You're gonna have to loosen the reins a little bit for us to get back to our winning ways.
You got to have, nobody want to come play here, Pat. You got to settle down, baby.
Let the horse run free a little bit. You got to change your ways because times are different
and the players are different.
Yeah.
Adaptability is the greatest trick to survival.
You got to be able to adapt to what the...
What... I mean, a guy that's invested now,
they're different. You have to invest differently
than you did back in the day.
Everything, you have to do it differently, Ocho.
You just do.
And that's why, Icho, you just do.
And that's why, I mean, I understand, I understand that I couldn't coach you
because my mentality doesn't allow me to doubt.
Not to a player, because I don't like having to tell
somebody something over and over, Ocho.
We go through the thing the whole week, Ocho.
Then we go walk through the first 15.
And then the night before the game, we get the first 15.
And everybody got their nose out, Ocho, they're looking at the plays right before they go, we get the first 15. And everybody got their nose side on the shoulder
and looking at the plays right before they go out there,
the first 15.
And I been damned if somebody don't jump off sides.
I just look at that.
Hey, let me tell you something.
You know who would be the one to jump off side too?
You.
You. You. You.
Hey, because I know that first play coming to me,
I break the huddle.
I break the huddle fast and do the one thing I never forget.
I forgot who told me.
Dale Carter told me.
You pull your glove, you tighten your gloves.
I tighten my glove when I come to the line.
And when it's a run play, I don't do it.
Uh-huh.
I'm like, damn, you pitching to know that?
Say, yeah, young, yeah, yeah, young fella.
Hey, they don't know.
Guess what they say?
Oh, that ball coming to you on your heart.
You out the gate on that one.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha.
Oh.
Are we being the huddle?
Hey, hey, this is the time we're going
to get them to jump off size.
You know, they get a little tired. They're going to get antsy. You know, they gonna try to attack the quarterback.
We gonna go on two.
Mm-hmm.
Blue 17!
Blue 17!
How the hell you forget that from walking from the huddle
to the line, dumb-dumb?
How the hell you forget that from walking from the huddle to the line, dumb-dumb?
Ay, it's so funny. As easy as it sounds, most of the time I don't think people will understand how hard it is, boy. I was notorious for it.
Hell, I jump off-side on one.
I tell you, Uncle Joe, all I hear is, uh-huh, I'm gone.
I'm gone.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
I'm out.
It's so funny.
I already want to look at the sideline.
Look at the sideline.
Mike over there like this here.
I can see Marvin.
I can see Marvin with his hand on his hip
looking at me right now, man.
They would have to, Carson would have to tell me twice,
boy, it's on two.
TJ, me and TJ would break the huddle.
If TJ and I, if we got a slot formation,
we going to the same side, man, he had to say, boy,
Osho, it's on two.
Yeah.
It's on two.
Just a friendly reminder, boy,
because boy, I'd be so antsy.
I'd be ready to get a fight
Oh boy, as a matter of fact, so I don't even run no route
I don't even want you to go out just stay here. So we don't we go we tell you to do something
You go jump off that
And Alex get arrested so he would quit ish for brains
All of them some good be the dumbest
Yeah, but but that's why I bet That first 15 used to get me every time, Ocho. We work on it the whole week. We go out there and walk through it Saturday morning.
We do it again Saturday night and the meal right before our...
After we get together, Ocho, office get together, we go to first 15.
These gonna be our plays. I'm looking looking cuz I'm right now like okay one two three okay I got four
opportunities in the first 15 yeah yeah okay okay and it's the one thing too
don't break the huddle and they in the right defense when you go through the
script and you get the yo play and then the right defense
And you know, you getting the ball
What Carson if you don't hurry up and say said hi, yeah, hey don't do all that blue red just say hut
All that come on man, hey
All that other stuff we we don't need that.
Just say, hey, go, I'm going.
Man, come on, man.
It doesn't like that, man.
We had a play call one time, Mocho.
We played in Detroit.
It might've been my last year in Denver.
I think it was 03.
Perfect call.
Oh, they call this thing and say,
normally, like 85% of the time,
they gonna play cover two.
They line up like this, but they gonna play cover two. lineup like this, but they're gonna play cover to
Right. Hey 84. All you gotta do is get down the hole. It's a touchdown. Oh till we backed up to it It's gonna be like a 90. Oh
How about the quarterback throw the ball to the damn flat
Wait and cover to yes
We gonna get somebody killed. Oh, Lord have mercy.
All you had to be was the middle backer, right?
All they had to be.
I was gone.
Because we kind of ran like a counter.
We had run this play earlier, not earlier that year, but in 2001, 2002, when I hit Kansas City, we ran like a counter pass and they split cover, too.
And all I had to do was beat the linebacker. I beat him, Greasy hit me. me hey I put that thing like this here I was gone so this right here oh oh that
thing split I mean them safeties got so wide yeah yeah yeah in the back or
didn't even run oh he he he shoot back he shoot back or nothing he held he
tripping because what we did we faked it and so now we fake it in the back. Oh, and you drew him up a little bit. Yeah, in the back.
Yeah, he bought you a little time.
Cause all you wanted was one of those big,
see you get one of them big ones early Ocho,
now I'm thinking, oh this one went 50, 200 yard day down.
Yeah, easy.
Easy day.
That's what I'm thinking.
Pat, you have to change your ways.
Dan Carr announces his retirement from the NFL.
Ocho 34 recently underwent multiple medical evaluations on his shoulder. Shoulder was deemed
the only route back to 100% and that would mean six up to six months of recovery. Carr retires
after staying on 11 seasons. He's a four-time Pro Bowler. 257 touchdowns, 41,000 passing yards, top 25 all time.
Third place in the MVP vote.
He walks away from 30 mil.
Hey, I have a question, don't.
Yeah.
I'm confused.
We in April, we just had the draft.
The season ended, how long ago?
December?
Well, that season ended in January, beginning of January.
But he know, his season been over because he got hurt.
Remember, Rattler been playing.
Yeah. So I'm trying to understand why wouldn't the situation rectify
so you come into the season healthy?
Why are we still talking about the same thing we were talking about last year?
You know, sometimes they give you say rest.
And then when rest don't do it.
Now see now you don't let two months pass and rest. You should have went and had that shoulder.
Listen, you know good and well you don't play around nothing like that anything with the upper extremities with the arms
especially when it comes to a quarterback. You want to get all those issues done and out the way.
That there was even a thought or inclination that there's something wrong with it
that would hamper your throwing motion or playing your position at the best of
your ability.
You go get it fixed.
Oh Joe.
Go get it, go get it fixed.
Derrick Carr has made $205 million in his career.
He has a 77 and 92 record, a 455 win percentage, just one trip to the playoffs, and I think they lost to
you guys.
The ninth most cash from 2014 to 2024.
Aaron Rodgers has made $292 million.
First Cousins, 291.
Matthew Stafford, 287.
Russell Wilson, 264.
Dak Prescott 244 Jerry golf
234 Matt Ryan 222 Tom Brady
198 Derek Carr
196 and my homeboy
179 but him boy and boy make a pretty penny boy and make a pretty penny
You know the funny thing about it, but I was upset. I was sad
You know, I don't like to see players hurt. Hell, I got damn tweeted the the
broken heart emoji about Derek Carr being gone. And then I had to remember,
well you know what? The people in New Orleans, in Baton Rouge, in
Louisiana. Man, they happy. They cheering. They second-lining. Oh, I mean I know
you're happy Derek Carr is gone. you didn't like your quarterback that you had,
but now who you got?
Now you got Spencer Radler,
no dishes, no young bull.
You got Spencer Radler, they took the quarterback.
What is his name?
Slop.
Shuck.
They took Shuck.
I'm just tellin' you who they took.
I ain't shuckin' with your old Joe, that's who they took. I ain't shucking with your old Joe.
That's who they took.
They took Shupp.
That's exactly how the Saints gonna be.
They gonna be Shupp until they get a goddamn quarterback.
You know, and listen, my people in New Orleans,
boy, we ain't got no patience.
We ain't got no patience.
We done dealt with too much.
We need a quarterback.
Well, what happens is you get spoiled.
You had Drew Brees for 15 years and you expect
every quarterback.
It's hard to follow that up.
You're not going to be Green Bay. You're not going to have Brett Farr for 15, 20 years.
You're not going to have Ed Rodgers for 20 years.
And then you're going to have a Jordan Love.
That ain't happening. You're not going to have, most teams don't get to have 30, 40
years. I mean, you're talking about could be 40 plus years of prosperity
at the quarterback position.
That's crazy.
That is absurd to think about it.
Cause think about it.
You had 17 years with Britton, look, about 17 years with Farr.
And then you had another 18 years with Rogers.
And now you have Love.
So that's 30, that's what, 30, 35 years?
So you're about to have 45 45 maybe even 50 years of prosperity at the quarterback position
Hello, and not just any quarterback. We talk about them boys
One of the greatest of all time
Mm-hmm as was Brett far. Yes, and listen Jordan love on in his own right is on his way to be just that as well
Yeah, as he continues to improve year in year out Yes, and listen Jordan love on in his own right is on his way to be just that as well
Yeah, as he continues to improve year in year out, but their car is done
he says no, I don't want to go through that anymore. He says I talked to my wife and my family and
Six months a rehab for 30 million
Like nah, it ain't even worth it. Hold on. Hold on. Wait a minute. wait a minute. Stay with me right now. Hey, Chad, y'all stay with me real quick.
My Saints fans, tell me what you think about this.
Now I know based on what we saw from him last year,
it wasn't anything to hype about.
You know, it wasn't nothing to second-line about.
But how about Aaron Rodgers coming in for a year
in New Orleans until we get the rookie right?
Or for Spencer Rallick and also, you know,
watch and learn behind him.
What y'all think about that?
I know I got some Saint fans in the chat.
I'm just curious.
What's your thought on that?
I'll let the Saint fans try me with that one.
No, yes, no, what you think?
One year?
No.
No? Okay.
I had to work off of the Jets.
He was there two years.
Oh, I mean, you're right.
I'm just curious.
I'm just curious, your thought process
and bringing in the veteran presence, you know, to see what
they could do with Aaron.
But if you say no, but you're bringing him in for one year, what are we getting
out of one year?
Uh, development for the younger quarterbacks, allowing them to see how it
should go.
You told me guys don't get better by being on the bench.
That was what you tell me.
You're right. You're me. You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
I was just curious.
Saints head coach, Kelly Moore said he will rotate all their quarterbacks, give
them all opportunities as one tries, tries to seize the starting job.
We're going to let all three of these guys roll.
Each will be given a chance to win the Saints starting job.
The people in the chat, the Saints fans,
that got fucked this shit, we cooked.
Harrison stands for shook.
He has the second worst quarterback accuracy
versus power five opponents of any quarterback
in this class.
42% completion rate when precious.
58% completion rate when blissed.
Solid performance when kept clean.
All quarterbacks are good when you keep them clean.
Yeah.
You got to be listening.
Hey, my house is immaculate when it's clean.
Duh!
Hahaha!
Damn!
Listen, under pressure, under pressure.
A lot of times you're going to, under pressure.
A lot of times you're going to be under pressure. Yeah, exactly.
How accurate and consistent can you be when you're under duress?
That's the, that's the tall tale time of a great quarterback.
Always calm under pressure.
Always, always accurate under pressure, regardless of what's coming,
coming at him from all time.
Man, it's, man, again, that's coming at him from all time. Man, it's... It's like a machine book.
And again, that's why I questioned the draft again.
That's why I questioned the draft again.
Could you take those same numbers you just talked about, and I'm not going to say his
name, but you know who I'm talking about, and you look at what he had to deal with because
his offensive line play wasn't that good, but for some reason, Uncle, I mean, he was
highly accurate
still. Yeah. It's funny how that works, but that's neither here nor there.
So as a wide receiver, you want a guy that can catch the ball in traffic.
Oh, I can catch when they wide open. I hope the hell. The hell? The volume.
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