Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Anthony Joshua KO’s Jake Paul + Who will Jake Paul FIGHT NEXT? + Jake Paul has BROKEN JAW

Episode Date: December 20, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Anthony Joshua knocking out Jake Paul in the 6th round, Unc & Ocho discuss who could Jake Paul fight next, and Jake Paul says after the fight that his jaw might be broken and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 3:07 - Anthony Joshua knocks out Jake Paul (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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He is 6 foot 6, 243 pounds, and he, I mean, I guess they say he's over the hill, but he looked in peak condition, and he can't, look, I thought he could have ended the fight a lot earlier, but look, let's give him something, let's give him something holding to sink the teeth into Ocho. Anthony Joshua defeated Jake Paul in the sixth round of the heavyweight fight in Miami. This bout sparked widespread debate with critics raising safety concerns over significant experience and size gap between Joshua and Paul. But Paul performed far better than his critic thinks. I don't think he did all that.

I thought it was WWE. Ocho, I ain't got no more to say about it. Take it away. Listen, I mean, I know good and well, obviously. You know, I commend Jake Paul. I commend Jake Paul. He dedicated the last five years to trying to hone his craft and being able to get as good as he could at the sweet science

and be able to produce and perform at the highest level he could. But one thing he will never be able to. to do is you can't make up all the years it takes to learn a craft and be one of the best in the world at it. You can't do that in five years time. It's impossible. It's almost in a sense. It's almost disrespectful in a sense. If you watch the night's fight, right? If you watch the nice fight, Jake Paul starts to fight the fight off on his bicycle. He starts to fight off on his bicycle running the whole time because you understand if Anthony Joshua wants to apply pressure and really end the fight, he can do that, I hope people understand the people that are watching.

If you wanted to end that fight because of Jake Paul's lack of ring experience and lack of ring IQ, he could end the fight right away if he wanted to. If you watch closely, if you know boxing, Anthony Joshua purposely didn't cut the ring off the right way. No. He just, he chose to chase him instead of cutting the ring off. Oh, Jake. Let him burn himself out, Ocho. Huh?

He let him burn himself out because that's not what Jake Paul normally does. Jake Paul is normally the hunter. He's not normally the hunted. So there's a reason why, and I'm going to let you go after this. Yeah. There's a reason why you don't see heavy weights move like that. It requires oxygen at the bigger man. That's why you don't see 200-pound milers.

Yeah. That's why you try. What do you see marathons? They ain't nothing but heart and lungs. That's it. That's all this. Because that's what you need. It takes oxygen to fuel muscles.

Right. And you saw he started out running. Did you see Jake's walk? Did you see our body? start to the preparation, how where he started to get? I said, okay, it won't, hey, it won't be long now. Go ahead, I don't think he understood what he was getting itself into. You could spar as much as you want.

You could bring as many people into your camp as you want. They could be six, six, they could be six, five. You will not understand the difference in level of an elite fighter, like Anthony Joshua, who is a world champion. He's an Olympic champ, right? Yes. When you feel that guy. damn when you feel that pressure with them with them 10 ounce gloves and it touch you or even if it don't touch you like um i just he was overwhelmed yes he bit off more than he could chew i did i commend him i'm not it it wasn't scripted it wasn't scripted but i know one thing anthony joshua held back i could tell you that oh yeah there were many many many many wide open shots yes that he that a fighter at his level you take those shots because the opening is there

He held back on. He held back. Listen, I committed him for getting in the ring. But if Anthony and Joshua wanted to turn up, if you wanted to turn up, man, listen, it would have been, it would have ended in the first round. Yeah. But listen, I commend, I commend Jake for getting in there. Ain't a whole lot of people. Ain't a whole lot of people getting in no goddamn ring with no heavyweight that don't have eons and years of ring experience.

That's a different ballgame. And you don't understand it until you get in the ring. Listen, I know one thing I can. say one i'm gonna say one more thing the training the coaches that are training jake paul what we saw the night from jake paul the training with nothing like that their training nothing he did in that ring was taught from the trainers that he has nothing but once you get in that ring with that kind of fighter you overwhelm everything you everything that you learned through camp is out the window it's out the window you breathing heavy in the first round because he's running on

He's not normal on his bicycle. That's a big 215 pounds. And to get on your bicycle and retreat, that if you notice heavyweight, that's why the only really head, when you go back and study heavyweight Socho, the only one that moved was Ali. Ali, way 205.

That's it. You start getting these heavy weights 220, 225, 230, 245. Uh, uh, uh, uh, you get Klitsko 6,6, you get Fury, 6,8, 69, 260, 270, 270, 270, you get Lennox Lewis, 6, 255.

Now you start to get, and it's not a division, but they're what we call super heavy weights. Redic Bow, those big guys, 240, 245, 50 on, on up. You can't move like that, it takes oxygen. Yeah, hey. You heard how your boy was, I don't wanna break it up, but you heard how your boy was breathing. It take a lot of oxygen to move, 255, 260.

And you know what's funny too? You have to be so confident and so, and so skilled defensively, To have a weight gap, to have a weight gap and height gap that, that much of a difference. Yeah, that disproportionate. You have to be, hold on, you have to be that much more skilled as if you were Jake Paul. You got to be just elite to be able to what you lack in size and punching power, you got to make up in other areas.

And he, he's just not able to do that in such a short amount of time. Five years ain't enough time. No, Ocho. And he's never, you talk about a guy, Anthony Joshua, have probably been blocks since he was 10 or 11 years old. To go AAU, he probably had, how many amateur fights you think he had? Somewhere between 50 and 100, maybe even more. And then to compete at the Olympic level.

And he's a pro. I think if I'm not mistaken, he's a two-time world champion. So he fought the best. But let me tell you what you can't simulate, Ocho, that power. No. You can bring all you guys you want to, but you got a guy that 6 foot 6, 243 pounds. and he's dropping, did you see,

when he hit Jake Paul that final time, did you see what Jake Paul said? His face. Yeah, he, he felt that kind of power. Hell no. He never felt that kind of power.

Wearing hair gear and 16-ounce gloves or maybe 20-ounce glove, most heavy weights wear a 20-ounce gloves and train, huh? He should have used training glove. Jake Paul said after the fight, he think his draw is broken. Yeah, I think it is.

What you expect? heck it's a different level i mean you bit up more than you too but i commend you for getting now i could i commend you for getting now but this is what people are always saying oh joe if he fight somebody that's a skilled boxer you're fighting retired athletes that boxing is not the genre right fighting you fought uh Nate robinson and you fought tyron woodland who got knocked out again by got knocked out by anderson silver you fault Anderson silver you fault guys that don't doesn't have a boxing background. If you want to be taken serious,

you need to fight somebody with a real boxing background. Yeah. Then people who might start to say, okay, you fought Mike Tyson 60 years old and Mike Tyson, nobody, everybody knows that they don't think Mike Tyson let his hands go. He didn't, what you mean? I'm just, oh, Joe.

Anthony Joshua, they let his hands go. Allegedly, he didn't let his hands go. We got to be on the safe side. Let's say allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, Allegedly, this is nightcap. But with that being said, Ocho, once you feel someone's power is different. If Nate Robinson is, what, 165, 170 pounds?

Tyrone Woodley is, however much he weighs, Anderson Silver. You got a legitimate world champion. Yeah. Raining down power shots. He hit it with an uppercut. And Jake Paul stuck his tongue out. Bro, it was like Rock'em Sockham Robots.

I thought the hair was about to come out. Y'all remember Rock'em Sock and Robots that blue and that redwood? You catch him good and the head pop up. Yeah. When he jabbed and he caught, I don't know why Jake Paul thought being in the ropes would be a good shot. No. Bro, you can't move.

Hold on. He can't move no more. By that time. Yeah, he was out of gas. Well, he was out of gas. He was out of gas at that point. And you know this, Ocho. Look, I box for fun, you know, for cardio.

When you get tired, you, I don't care. He's like, Shanna, pick your hands up. I said, I can't. They say, well, move. I can't. No, no, no. It's like when you get, if we've all been tired before, you might be jogging. When you get tired, what you do?

You stop. Put your hand. So if you do that in the fight, what's going to happen? Yep, you go, you go on to sleep. And I know, you know what, the funny thing about it is, is I know what that feeling feel like. But Jake, I know what it feel like. My dumb behind.

Then Benin there. I didn't been in there with boots. I didn't been in there with Caleb Plant. I didn't been in there with Benavides. I'd have been in there with the Charlo Twins. Hey, what's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here. And I'm Bucky Brooks.

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and we work for real. Unk, it's overwhelming. It's overwhelming. For one, we're not in our environment. I'm not in my environment. And when they get inside that ring, Unk, it can be their mama.

It's go time. They know how to set you up. You can't, like, you know how you, if they're getting in the ring the train, they tape of the gloves, they put the Vaseline on, tape everything up. It's go time.

Whether you've, five, whether you 10, whether your uncle, whether your auntie, you're fin to get that word. I wish people could have an opportunity to Ocho, like you have, like I have, get an opportunity to sit down and, because I had to sit down and had a conversation with Lennox Lewis, had conversation with Evander Holyfield.

Just listen at them talk and say how I can walk somebody into a punch, how I can cut the ring off where he think he's doing something, but I'm actually walking him into a trap. Yeah. And to see them how they can rotate, like, like, right. He's like, no, you got to do it like this.

Bud was in the ring and he said, nah, what you got to do? What I would do, if you're like this, I'm going to step around. Now, when you step around, one or two things, you're going to try to push me off you or you're going to try to step back. Yeah. If you step back, I'm going to land a clean right. If you try to peel away, I'm going to throw this left on you. To hear them talk how they can walk you, I think I'm doing something.

I think I'm doing something. Hey, bro, you're walking into it, you walk it into a right hand. Yeah. Or you walk into a left and they can check everything. everything because they know you throw this okay if I throw this he's got to throw that right how they take they can take their hand you got your hand up here not this go hand down and then catch you come with something yeah and funny thing about it you're not supposed to knock my gloves down you're supposed to be that I want to get a clean shot it is but we are

look I always we thought this and a lot of people thought it was kind of like butterbean I don't know if you remember butter bean butter bean would knock up people like uh and then he fought a real boxer oh yeah hey it's different it's different and the one thing about it too on for those who like boxing in the chat really like boxing you know how you play tic-tac-toe on yeah and it's a mind game and trying to that's all boxing is on for those when it when it's done the right way it's like tic-tac-toe you always want to be able to counter and always be two steps ahead of the next person well if he throw that i know i can throw this but if he throw that i know this gonna be open well maybe the other dude got to know well if that's if i know i'm vulnerable here

so I'm going to make sure I come back home real fast and I know we're going to shoot this and when it's done the right way unc it's a beautiful thing that's why it's the reason why it's called the goddamn sweet science for a reason it actually is a science yeah yeah you know most sports are like this

on your football okay they're in this defense they're trying to do this we're trying to do that yeah it's a constant cat and mouse game hey the question is if you catch me where I'm vulnerable, can I hold onto the ball?

So if you catch me with a clean shot, you don't knock me out. I take it because what a, and the line, you catch me in something, and the line doesn't pick it up. Quarterback, just hold on to the ball. Yeah. Don't throw it arbitrarily kind of like John Materer did tonight. You got to pick six. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, hey, we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Go ahead. Jake Paul after the loss, said I'm feeling good. That was fun. I love this sport and had a blast. Anthony is a great fighter. I got my ass beat,

but that's what this sport is all about. This sport has helped me so much. I think my draw is broken, by the way. Joshua called out Tyson Fury. I shook off the cobweils tonight, and if Tyson Fury is serious, and he wants to shake off that Twitter finger to pick up some gloves,

he should fight me. Let's see how serious he is. I thought, I mean, I thought Tyson Fury said it was retired. Is he willing to come out of retirement? No, he said that on Twitter. He said he's not a YouTuber. He's not a Disney guy. You want to fight?

He said he's going to beat his ass. In his accent, that's basically what he's saying. Okay, okay. I mean, that would be a good one. That would be a good one. I mean. But it's, oh, Joe, this is years and years and years and being able to see punches and know what counters are coming and know if he's trying to walk you into a trap

where you think you're doing something. You could tell because he kept going down. He looked like he's like he's hyper-extended his knee. or something because he like, and he like started acting funny when he was retreating. Yeah. He kept like, like, come on, man. And Trevor he said, hey, man,

there ain't nobody paid to see this, pay to see this mess. Fight. If you wanna fight, fight, fight. Nah, he overwhelmed. And then you got, you gotta understand. If you're fighting a heavy weight like that, defensively, you have to be that much more confidence of your defense.

We don't have to keep retreating like that. We don't have to. He had his hands down, he had his hands down the whole. He tired. Let me ask you quick. you try to do one or two things, don't you? Either one or two things. When somebody gets tired, don't you?

What we do? Yeah. You're trying to hold yourself up. Uh-huh. Or you're doing this. Yeah. So with that being saying, Oh, you clench up.

He was tired. Yeah. Do you see how much that man was sweating? Yeah. Do you see how much he was sweating? Yeah. I mean, his hair was dripped. I mean, he was sweating profusely.

Yeah. You know what? You know what the one thing also is not only does he not have the ring experience. or the ring IQ to understand what's coming when you're getting in there with somebody that's much more skilled much better much more experience

the two things you got to be able to do two things that would at least help for one you got to be able to survive yes your breathing got to be on point your breathe your breathe a young you're breathing got to be on point and you better be relaxed like a marge up like a motherfucker

but do you see do you see how relaxed AJ was the whole time yeah Yeah, because AJ is not moving around. He's not, he's not the one that's retreating. Hey, if you think about, Ocho, what do they tell you? All right, son, deep breaths, slow it down, slow your breathing down. You got to.

Because when you get tired, what are you doing? Yeah. Deep breath, son. Boy, it's hard to stay calm. Hey. Hey, what they do? They always in the hard movies chat, what they always do? fall down

car they get tired every time and you stumble over your own down feet and here come Freddy here come Jason and they get you Mike Myers

any other you know saw whatever else they got out there but that was that's the thing on Joe I mean I'm looking at

him after the first round I say I said did they don't water on this man head yeah different way but you got to look at him

though now he's not he's in shape yeah but he has that body he's not he's not going he doesn't have the body that can carve up like Anthony Joshua you say Anthony Joshua look yeah yeah yeah you see those those caps on his shoulders you see his back the small waist yeah he's always going to how he can be in shape but he's always going to have a high body yeah yeah and his body just started he just started perspiring technique was on soaking with yeah hey everything was out the window

again i guarantee you i know i know i know i know it's coaches i know i know all this coaches i know their background their boxing background they did not teach what you saw tonight definitely not all that went out the window i don't know what happened bad what happened oh jo but just think oh if anthony joshua had a hit with the punch that he hit clitko with come on that's not fair that that's not fair that's not that's not fair he wouldn't he wouldn't Anthony Joshua wouldn't do that he wouldn't do that I mean if you if you know boxing he's really hurt it this if you watch Anthony Joshua a fight before you know he held back oh he got power that's the one thing and that's right and most heavyweights

have power in their right hand because he's mostly a jab boom yeah Klitsko boom boom now some guys uh what's the guy's name Larry Holmes Larry Holmes and Lynn Lewis They shot the jab to actually hurt you. A lot of heavyweights use the jab as a range finder. Range finder, yeah. Okay, you're within reach. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah.

So you right now, I can come over with this. That's what they did. Lenny's Lewis. Lair home, they use the jab. They really trying to do damage with their jam. Yeah. I don't know if Joshua is trying to do damage with his hand, but he got that and most heavyweights have dynamite in their right hand

because most heavy weights are right hand. But man, look, I don't know where he goes from here Because I don't know if you can sell any more fights Because they saw what happened that look That's out of his weight class Maybe he can fight a cruiserweight Maybe he could but he can't he can't beat a heavyweight Ocho He's not gonna beat any cruiserweight either

I know but I'm saying you can't but now Once you've gone this route Ocho They're not gonna let you go back and fight guys That boxing is there not Oh, Joe, if I'm a track, what I, what, uh, Melissa Jefferson looked like trying to race, uh, Asia Wilson. Asia Wilson in the NBA, she ain't a damn track and field athlete, right, right. So what did you try to wait, race Cocoa golf?

Cocoa golf play tennis. Right. You, so they're not going to, fans are not going to allow him to go back and fight somebody that boxing isn't their background. I do, I do know one thing. Jake Paul is a creator. Jake Paul has a brilliant mind. He's always had a brilliant mind a very long time ago when he started YouTube.

So I'm sure he will come up with something, something that's going to be exciting, something that the fans are going to want to see. I don't think Jake will put himself in harm's way again because obviously you can't play boxing, and tonight was very dangerous for him. I like the fact that A.J. understood that if I wanted to take him out, I can actually take him out when I want to. But what I will do is I will get the fans something to see. I will get the fans something to see until I feel like taking him out. And that's what he did. Hey, what's up, everybody? Daniel Jeremiah here.

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or wherever you get your podcast. Yeah, baby, look, look, I don't know how much Anthony, I don't know how much Tyson Fury has left. I don't know how much Anthony Joshua had left. If they fight, I'll watch it. Because when you talk that much, ish, I want to see somebody go to sleep. Yeah.

and a lot of times in the heavyweight division they can turn the lights out of the building with one punch, Cho. I think that's why people that's why the heavyweight, everybody loved that's what people loved Mike Tyson. You better get your ass in your seat. Oh yeah, don't try to get no popcorn. Don't go to concessions ban before the fight.

Go to the matter what you want to. You just spend $4,000, $5,000 for nothing. Hey, for no reason. You missed it. I hope your hope the undercar was good because a lot of times you don't really see the undercar like you and I, they had like 10 fights. Me and you walk out there,

They walk into the down there walking to the ring. I see, man, come on, come on. Right. Hell, no, I don't want to see. I ain't going out there. Yeah. When they get to, they start walking to the ring, we'll be there. We're going, yeah.

But I commend him for taking the fight. I commend him for getting in there. But I think everybody thought this would be the outcome if, if Anthony Joshua was going to take it serious and apply pressure. Now, they went six rounds and everybody going to say, well, he went six rounds. Well, hell, I can go, I can go, I can go, uh, four rounds with John Jones. If he's just circling, don't grab me.

Yeah, yeah. Or don't try to do anything. But if he wanted to end up, like, you know what, I don't really want to go past one. It's over. And I think if Anthony Joshua really wanted to do what he did in the sixth round, he could have did that in the first round. Absolutely.

I, listen, I knew when I saw some of the stuff Jake was doing, you know, on his bicycle, and instead of Anthony Joshua cutting off the ring, the right way, the correct way, and instead he just he followed him instead of cutting the ring off I say yeah all right

I mean he's on his side I'm not saying it's rigged and I'm not saying it's scripted I'm saying he's on his side in favor of giving the fans some that they want to see yeah you can't you can't end it in the first round people are going to be disappointed

I knew man people because people like man Anthony Joshua went two rounds he went three rounds he went four rounds he went five rounds with Anthony Joshua Anthony Josh was a professional.

Yeah, he is. You ain't like. Yeah. Hey. What a. But. Oh, it's your man. I don't know.

So what you're thinking? What, where does Jake Paul go from here? As far as fighting, we know he's tremendous on YouTube. He's a great content creator. He's done amazing for himself. Yes.

I mean, what he's built the past five years? He wants to be a fighter. And I don't think this is the end of him. I think he wants. wants to continue to fight what's his next move you know what i'm not sure what his next move is but again like i said he's a brilliant mind and everything he's done um what he's accomplished the past five years and dedicating his life to boxing and trying to to build an empire in which he has

built up to this point and he challenged himself he challenged himself and he puts the envelope and fighting one of the best fighters in the world that is a heavyweight uh you went down but you don't stop you don't stop you don't stop creating content you don't stop living your dream because you lose you get your ass up hey listen you get your back you get your ass up you get back to the drawing board work on your craft some more and you get back in there who your opponent would be this time I don't know just don't bite by don't bite off more than you could chew but and don't bite off more at 216 I mean can he fight Bobo yeah you're trying to get him kick well but also I don't know

how he goes back and fight people that aren't oxers again. That was great to build it up. Okay, that's because that's what you do, also even sugar, even even professional fighters. Yes. You give them somebody and they can increase, increase, increase. Yeah. Now, what should what sugar ray got into the fight and he, I think he took the bell from, um, Wilford Benitez. Look to see who, uh, sugar rate took the bell for. I think it was Benitez. But anyway, if he lost, it's like, okay, when he lost to Duran, he couldn't go back down and fought the guys that he was coming up to get in that position. Right. So how does.

So how does he? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm going to say, you can't put him in there with Bevalh. He gets himself killed. But he has to fight somebody.

Okay, he's too sick. He gets himself killed. Now, hold on. You got, now you're telling me to get in there with a pressure fighter that's going to come forward. And that's not going to be lenient with you like Anthony Joshua, Joshua was. He going to cut off the ring. He's going to get you out of it in the first round. That ain't happening.

Anthony Joshua was lenient. We're going to get to people something. Man, Bevall is taking your ass out in the first 10 seconds. What, but I'm saying. One more thing. Go ahead. Beval is a volume puncher. Yes.

He's going to be overwhelmed. It's going to be over in 10 seconds. It's good that he fought a heavyweight because heavy weights don't normally throw a whole lot of punches. The problem is, bingo. The problem is as he, if he were to go down and wait, the punch volume increases. Increases, yeah.

So now what does he do? So I'm trying to think. Like I said, it had to be cruiserweight. It had to be light heavy. So where does he go? He can't fight it. Ocho, he cannot fight another heavyweight. Who is he going to fight?

He going to fight Deonté Wilder? No. Oh, you're trying, no. That's what I'm saying. No. I don't know where you go from here. No, I'm not saying compared to his journey. I'm saying, once Jake Paul fought a professional boxer, he lost, he can no longer go back

and fight guys that aren't boxers. He can't fight a Nate Robinson again. He can't fight a Woodley again. He can't fight an Anderson Silver again. He has to fight boxers. That was everybody's, that was everybody hang up about him. They say you're a professional boxer, but you're not, you're fighting everybody but professional boxers.

Right. Even if they're not, even if they haven't. want a title, at least buying somebody, Ocho, that all they done is lost. They got like 30 fights. They lost 30 of them. Yeah. Only one, two.

Or maybe he's only done is lost. You've got to fight somebody like that, Ocho. I just don't know how he can go back and fight somebody that doesn't have boxing background. That's not unfair. All the people with a boxing background, like amateurs, amateurs that are skilled on, whether cruiser weight, light, heavyweight,

or heavy weights, they will beat Jake because of the ring experience. Yes. It will beat them on spirits alone and being used to being in that atmosphere and what I like to call chaotic environments. But when the lights is on and people are watching and they sit in the stands and then lights is bright and the camera's on, Uncle, it's different. It is. It's different.

You know it's different because we played a game of football. You practice one thing. But when you actually get into the game and that guy putting hands on you and they take your ass to the ground and they hold it up dog hold it up that's a whole different animal and and as the game get late in the ball game yeah now every catch matters every possession matters every play call matters yes the anticipation you feel it and don't don't let anybody yeah being in that situation before it definitely helps because you kind of know what to expect but there's a there's a rise in anxiety

when you down six and you got the ball and you got a minute and a half or you down three and you need to get in field goal range right there's a difference in tempo there's a difference in plate the crowd knows it it's more everybody it seems like the yells are louder

and the it's like oh a pass is dropped or a sack or something you can feel it so i can just imagine what jake paul being in that situation like damn he bigger than that fault man yeah that punch is hurt more than that fault hey boy boy it's different what it's different and i i know it is just like i understand that overwhelming feeling i took that ring walk on We come out of a team. You took it by yourself.

Oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely. By yourself. You and your thoughts. Hey, that's it. Ooh, that's tough, boy. That's tough. I'm trying. It's tough, man.

It's really tough when because you know everybody's going to say, see, I told you. told you. I told you there ain't no real boxer. Hold on, but nobody should say that because we already knew what would happen if he was to fight somebody elite. We understand that. We know training for five years, even if you dedicate your life, which he did to the

sport of boxing, there would be no way that he can beat someone who's been doing it since they were young. That's impossible. That's not happening. You could handicap the fight and say, AJ, Anthony Joshua, you can only throw your goddamn jab hand. he still would not win that fight you just wouldn't it's impossible but again

I do commend Jake for getting in there I do and if you watch Anthony Joshua if you know boxing you can tell you know he wasn't on 10 he was on 6 scared I mean as far as pressure and in volume punching

and letting shots go where openings are wide open I mean openings are wide open oh yeah and you're not throwing I'm looking like When the guy got his hands down, Ocho, he had his guard up, like, after the first minute of the fight

of trying to go side to side, that's cute and all. Yeah. I told you the first thing I, the first time they put me on the clock, Ocho. Oh, Joe, I'm bouncing. Oh, no. I'm bouncing, but, oh, Joe, I'm $255.

Right. He's like, hey, don't do the bounce. You're going to tie yourself out. I'm good. Hey, I feel like I'm sugar-ray. I'm bouncing that thing like sugar-ray. Oh, Joe, ha. Boy, I got about a minute of half in.

You were tired. Because what he's doing, don't joke, I'm in the ring, but he got the miss. One, two. Yeah. One, two, three. Yeah. Oh, you know, that, no joke. Yeah.

And you feel, you feeling good, huh? Oh, you know, I told him. Yeah. I say, damn, that horn ain't the horn ain't gone up yet? Yeah. What the hell? Eighth them three minutes ain't no joke. Oh, Joe, I had to look over there.

I see the clock is still ticking. 141, 142, 1. Hey. Hey, that's a bull. Hey, that three minutes is crazy. Hell yeah, because you got to constantly move. Now, think about it, Ocho. Ain't nobody chasing me.

Mm-mm. So imagine, imagine. Somebody trying to knock your head off. Now you, not, hey. I think I'm trying to think What about Let me see

Maybe maybe I could Maybe Jake could fight me next Ocho Yeah You do smote There's too much weight disparity I'm 205 right now No you're not 205

That man is 216 You're probably 1805-19 And you're not going to get a sanction It might be an exhibition Wait let me take this off What you're talking? Who, who? Who?

Man, two. Triple. Well, you don't see how big I am? I see. You still, you still on the 200 pounds. Huh? You know what? You know what?

I don't want Jake Paul. I want James Harrison. I'mma beat his ass. I'm going to rearrange his face. Matter of fact, hey, James Harrison, I hope you see this. When I see you, and I know you got an iPhone, I'm going to rearrange your face where your phone ain't going to record. phone ain't gonna recognize FaceTime ID. That's what I'm gonna do to you. That's what

that's what I'm gonna do to you. Huh? Hey, I'm gonna take James Harrison. I'm gonna take his nose and I'm gonna put it upside down and sew it back on his head. Yeah, that's I'm ooh. But I think the fight ended, but man, do you know all the money was being bad on Jake Paul? No. I think I think I think yes. I think Drake, Drake bet you're like $2,000. Drake Like $2.50, right? $200? Yeah, he's bad something. Yeah, he's tripping.

He tripping. Man, I know a bad, please. Hey, see, hey. Yeah, yeah, but see, he won 1.25. You give him away money. Yeah, man, you know, you know how to, you know, that's the big boys, you know how they do.

You know how they do. Hey, you know what I do? You know what I do? You know what I do want, though? What you won't? Because I've been doing this now to pass, what, seven years? Yeah. I really need that fight with Andre Ward, huh?

No, no, no, you're not understanding me, I really do on a, on a serious note. And that's on, that's on my mama. That's on my mama, rest in peace. And it's not about trying to beat him. It's about showing and proving when you dedicate yourself to something, how good you can get at it. So what's he supposed to be? So let me ask you a question. Yeah.

Why, it's not about winning. What's he supposed to do? Oh, he's going to get his ass whoop. He's going to get tussed up. See, Andre Ward, Leiskin, you know, they bruise easy. Yeah. Yeah.

Andre Ward is a world champ. It ain't never been defeated. I'm a world champ too. You heard me? I'm a world champ. You're a world champ-ish-talker. Hey, that one thing about I am, I did that,

that, that, I could, hey, I'm with you right. Yeah. But look, um, and as a matter of fact,

oh, whoa, before you go, before you go. Hey, who was that from, um, from, was it 520?

What that? Who is that? Who was that? That said they wanted. the box from uh from gill uh podcast somebody somebody on oh rasha mccans yeah i'm gonna beat his ass yeah he shouldn't have said hey rachal mccance hey boy you barking up the right tree and i ain't even got no bark hey he's talking about he got a we got a pool cue he said he got a bowling ball he got a boxing glove i'm like damn do you have a home you got all that shit in your car

Olympics. If it's to happen, if somebody, I'm, oh, we're going to make it. It's going to happen. Oh, it's going to happen. But you know what? You know what we got to add to that? Yeah, it's like, what you call them? It's like, uh, what's that with Jennifer Lawrence in it?

What was that? Hunger Games. Yeah, it's like Hunger Games. You know what we need to add paintball. Team, teams of paintball. Team to three, teams of four. And hey, we ain't got a three. That's all we need.

That's what I'm saying, though. So, I mean, they can only have, so each team got to have three. Okay, but that'd be dope. a paint paint ball competition as well. It's so much we can do, man. That's going to be dope. Yeah, we're going to be, me and you're going to do paintball first.

What you mean? Your ball ass head. Me, no, I got, you know, I got military background training. That's okay. So therefore, hey, I'm going to give you a military funeral, too.

I'm going to folk, I'm going to have about there playing hard. Hey, you know, Hey, Unk, you know, you know, I, I used to playing paintball competitions down here in Daryl in Miami, right? Okay. Yeah. I ain't do all that.

Oh, that's what, that's, that's why I mentioned paintball. I'm trying to name things that I know I can, I can do. That's all right. I'll be like sniper. Nah, that ain't work. That ain't gonna work. That's what I do. I ask my baby, baby.

Come here, come back, come here. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I got, I got one of 85 here with me. Oh. Give it up. What's up? Say hi, you good? Yeah, hey, our Christmas start today.

Christmas start today? We're not really, I mean, you know, all the babies come in. They'll all be there by when? Shoot, tomorrow. French ride, Kennedy, Chacha, G, Chade, my daughter. You're bringing everybody over on Joe? You know, the moms come to? No, no, no, we don't do that.

We don't do that. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. Oh, yeah. Hey, it's, yes, yeah. Hey, boy, this thing here, hey, um, this is for kids only. Kids only. Listen, uh, no.

I mean, I thought you break a couple of exits and everybody. Hey, we break brats and, hey, we good. We move past that. No, no, no, no anger. Ain't no love in Otcho. Oh, no. Ain't, ain't, ain't no anger. It's never no anger.

It's never that. But this, this is, this is for me and my babies. Okay. That's it. Ain't, no, no parents, no nothing. I got a special guest coming, too. two. Ooh.

My brother. It's going to be the first time in 38 years we spent Christmas together. Hey! Last time we spent Christmas together was 1987. God damn. That's dope.

We y'all gonna be at, huh? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. He covered in.

I was like, hey, bro, I'm gonna come on. I had a feeling. I had a feeling that it was coming because he was last. man you know what you what you doing like working you ain't going nowhere yeah to work he's like well i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna come out there at heart i said all right come on there yeah he coming in first time in 38 years as though what you're all gonna do y'all i mean y'all got to get out and do something huh you know i'll show him around you know

i said you know put him put him on the bag he can smoking cigars yeah put his feet in the pool cool whatever yeah oh you got a pool yeah but you know what go joe my family love now he'd like to drive like but my sister right my sister have shell they say hey my sister Uber everything so she'll get she like ramen noodles she's got a loaf of bread she'll get two bags of chip she'll get some soda she'd get Jimmy Dean sausage stuff like that right that's it my sister don't want to go nowhere my sister don't want to go nowhere my sister don't Don't anything. Hey, right. You want something? No, I'm good. You want to go somewhere? No, I'm good.

No, I'm good. Chilling. So my, like, I was like, I ask him. I say, well, what you want? He's like, hey, whatever you eat, going to be good with me, bro. Yeah. That's how we are. We, yeah, we. We don't, we don't like the inconvenience. Right. So he, they look at it like if, if I say, well, let's do something, I'm, they're inconveniencing me. Right. I look at it if I ask them to do something, I'm inconveniencing them. That's just the way we are. But, no, it's going to be, uh, I'm excited. You know, like I said, I had a feel of Ocho considering everything that that has gone on in 2025.

Uh-huh. I had a feeling because he told my, before he told me, he told my sister. And I told my sister, I think it was yesterday, day before. I said, you know, Spang said he's coming out here. He said, he told me, he said, but you make sure you call me when he get there. That's dope, man. And, you know, I got all us, you know, we got our days lined up. So everybody be here by tomorrow.

Saturday, we're going to, I don't know if you, I'm sure they probably do. We're going to Sanis and Chanter Forest. It's like a big park. You have all the lights up. You can take the picture with Santa Claus. Yeah, okay. Stuff like that.

Then Sunday, we're going to all go to the Dolphins game. Okay. Yeah, I'm taking all the kids at the Dolphins game. And, you know, Monday, we're going to do what? What are we going to do? Horseback riding? Yeah, they love riding horses, man. All the babies ride horses, so we'll probably do that.

I asked them, do you want some fruit. You're like, nah, I'm good. Fruitcake, but you, hey, I ain't had fruitcake in years, huh? I don't care to have none either. You don't like fruit cake? My grandma used to make it. My grandma used to make it in a big old thing by this big around, don't you? My grandma too.

And then she would put wine on it, put a towel over it, and put it in a cool place. Yeah. So it stayed moist. Hmm. Now, we grew up about, I don't know, about 15 miles from the, the fruitcake capital of the world, which is Claxton. Right. They make more fruit cakes than anybody, anywhere in the world. Right.

My uncles worked there. So it used to bring us them fruit cake. It's just something about them green and red-ass cherries that I can't get past. Inside the fruit cake? Yeah, man. Yeah, I ain't had that in so long, man. Yeah, I'm good. I don't want it either.

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