Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Arch Manning & Texas TAKE DOWN Texas A&M + Steve Sarkisian MAKES CASE for Texas in CFP + Bears put BTA on the Eagles + Bears’ D’Andre Swift joins NIGHTCAP

Episode Date: November 29, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Texas beating Texas A&M, the Chicago Bears go on the road to beat the Philadelphia Eagles, and Chicago Bears running back Deandre S...wift joins the show and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction03:35 - Texas beats Texas A&M24:21 - Bears beat Eagles42:33 - D’Andre Swift joins the show! (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:10 longhorns, knock out the Aggies at the SEC championship game by dominating the second half. They outscore the Aggins in the second half, Ocho. Yeah. 24 to 7. Arch on third and short they put the ball in his hand quarterback draw and he went to the house 35 yards threw some great passes in the second half 14 to 29 179 one touchdown but they ran the ball finally texas running game yeah they were able to run the football 35 carries 218 yards two touchdown if it was enough at home to take down the number three texas an m agate by the score of 2717. Marcel Reed had a rough one.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Yeah. 20, 32, 180, no touchdowns, two interceptions. You kind of saw this where this was heading? Yes. Because South Carolina had them down real bad. And Carolina led them off the hook because their quarterback played terribly. Lenora Sellers played really bad in the second half. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And he allowed Texas sending them to get back in the game. But give Texas credit. They got conservative. They were had a lead. What was the least? 17. The score was 1710? Yeah, 1710.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yes. They got the ball. And then for some reason, Sark got conservative. Yes. No, yeah. And then they go down and score. And then the next thing, I'll say, you know what, I'm done with this.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Now he called a game aggressive to come out in their first path, sell right to the tight end. Then another path. And then Archmanning took it to the house for 35 yards. And they went 2717. Ocho, how impressive did you think the long horse? look I think they look very impressive obviously they didn't have to put the ball in archmanning's hands for them to actually win the game he didn't have to throw them set
Starting point is 00:07:55 throw the team to a victory they ran the ball so well they had a they had a balance turn your mic on no joe the hell okay can you hear me now yes okay yeah I was saying they ran the ball so well and had had a balanced attack where Archmanning didn't have to put the brunt of the offense on the shoulder. So when it was time to throw the ball, it was very easy for him to be able to throw the ball and operate from the pocket, you know, even though he's able to extend plays and do what he can with his legs. But because they ran the ball so well, they was able to throw it.
Starting point is 00:08:35 That's why they were so efficient throwing the ball in the air. They played really, really good, that damn defense. Obviously, what I didn't like on, what I didn't like is when you come, when you play against the better college team that has a good. It has a great offense, a better offense than what they saw tonight in Texas A&M. The conservative play call, it has to stop. You can't have those lapses. You can't have those lapses offensively where we decide, okay, I don't want to put the ball in harm's way.
Starting point is 00:09:01 So now I'm going to call plays conservatively. Yes. You're going to play better teams, and better teams are going to beat you when we decide to do stuff like that. Because what happens is that you go conservative. So you run the ball on first and second down, now they bliss you on third down and get your ass out to field. So what you should have done is come out and throw the ball on first down because they're anticipating you. What he did the last time he got the ball. He anticipated them.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Go come out. You know what? They're going to look for us to run the ball again. Now we're not going to do that. They come with the sale route. Now it's a big time first down. Now you got some momentum. Now you got them on the heels and the decorordinate doesn't really know what he's going to do.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Is he going to throw it? Is he going to run it? Is he just going to try to shoot time off the clock? I really don't know what to anticipate here. And then I love the quarterback draw. You bring the tight end in motion, and he's your lead backer. Yeah. Excuse me, your lead blocker.
Starting point is 00:09:52 That was a great call by Sark. The one thing we know about Sark is one of the reasons why Arch Manning went there, he's a quarterback whisper. Yes. You look at who he's worked with in the past and the success that those guys have had. He worked with Matt Jones. He worked with Matt Liner and Carson Palmer. He's worked with some of the better prototypical quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yes. When they go to the league, they're very well prepared. And so I think that's one of the things because obviously Arch Manning wants to go to the NFL like his uncle, Peyton Neelan. And I need to get prepared because I can't get prepared once I get there. I need to be prepared once I arrive there.
Starting point is 00:10:28 And so I think this was a great matchup. A lot of people probably thought he would go to his dad's I'm a model, Ole Miss. Maybe he followed his big uncle, Peyton, to Tennessee. But he went to Texas. That's what Sark was and everything seems to be working out really, really well. But I was really impressed with Texas.
Starting point is 00:10:43 You know this was, now that this was, now that this is back on the back on the schedule they hadn't played each other in a very long time because obviously Texas was in one one conference and A&M had gone left and gone to the SEC now they're both in the SEC
Starting point is 00:10:57 now we can expect this rivalry to continue just like Texas Oklahoma. Some rivalries need to continue whether they in the same conference or not. If it's an out of schedule you know something even let's just say for some unforeseen reason
Starting point is 00:11:11 Ohio State of Michigan where to lead the big 10. I don't care. I don't care where y'all go. Y'all go to Division 3. We play in y'all ass every year. One year it's in Michigan, the next year it's in Ohio State. That's because these rivals have been going on for so long. It's just like going to church. It's like you grew up in the church. Okay. We grew up watching these rivalries. Auburn, Alabama, Michigan, Ohio State. That's what it should be. But, man, I was very, very impressed with Texas tonight. That defense did a great job on Marcel Reed. limited them to 180 yards passing.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Didn't really get beat. They had 34 rush attempts for, what, 157 yards. So that's a little, about four and a half yards of carry. You can live with that. But Texas running game is really what won this ball game for. Bears what is Chad Ocho Signal went out for a second. But it was their running game because we had talked about all year long about Texas not being able to run the football.
Starting point is 00:12:16 And finally tonight, when they really absolutely needed to run the football and they absolutely had to run the football, they were able to run the football. Wisner did a tremendous job, 19 rushes, 155 yards. We mentioned Arch Manning had that 35-yard touchdown. He had seven carries for 53 yards on a touchdown. And Townsend, they ran a great,
Starting point is 00:12:36 they put him in a wing set, the tight end. And they were looking for something else and they handed it to him, and he goes in for like a two-yard, a two-yard touchdown run. So I thought, I thought Texas' ability to run the football tonight was really the difference in the ball game because I don't believe Arch Manning,
Starting point is 00:12:53 with that vaunted pass rush that Texas A&M have, I don't believe Arch Manning could have just dropped back and through Texas to a victory. Because they were able to run the football, because they're able to play action off of it, they were able to win this game. And I was very, very impressed with the Texas Longhorn. They got something going.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Do I believe Arch Manning is coming back? Yes, I absolutely do. Do I think he'll be better this year than he was this year? Because this is really his first year starting. Quinn Ewers was there, and yeah, he filled in. But beating San Jose State and beating some of those lower tier teams, that doesn't prepare you for the next level that you anticipate playing at. And so I was really impressed, especially the back half of this season.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Yeah, we saw him against Ohio State. We saw him early in the year. And most people, I know I wasn't very impressed. But if you look at those last four or five games that he's played, he's impressed me. The way he's thrown the football, the poison which he's shown, I'm very, very impressed with Arch Madden. And I think, yeah, he's going to be what they thought he was going to be,
Starting point is 00:13:51 which is a top three, top four pick. Who knows, maybe even the number one pick like his uncles, Peyton and Eli were. But it was a very impressive win, and I know Sark is extremely happy with what transpired today. Everybody was looking forward to this game. Texas A&M, they're supposed to play each other. And I'm glad this rivalry was renewed. and Texas were able to pull it out.
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Starting point is 00:18:55 So listen to good luck with that on IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast us. Okay, after the game, Sark lobbied for his team to make the college football playoff. That team was undefeated. Number three in the country, a lot of pundits out there think they're the number one team in the country. Nobody thinks that, Sark, but we love you.
Starting point is 00:19:15 We just beat them by 10. If you really look at the body of work, you really look at the SEC and what we have to go through every week. You look at the non-conference schedule. We played where we went to Ohio State week one and lost by seven. We outgained them by nearly 200 yards. We got a really good football team and it would be a disservice to our sport.
Starting point is 00:19:33 If the team's not in the playoff, we went and scheduled that non-conference game because if we're 10 and 2, it's not a question. But we were willing to go play that game. Is that what college football is about? Don't play anybody and have a good record or play the best and put the best teams in the playoff. We're one of the best teams.
Starting point is 00:19:53 I agree. But it was one of the things that kept Alabama out of it, last year. Right. I don't believe, I don't believe because there are a lot of one lost, the one loss and two lost teams that, you know, so if Georgia goes to the, because Georgia beat Texas. Yes. So that would be a disservice to them if they lost the SEC championship game and not make the college football playoff, but a team that we beat does. They get a chance to make it. Right. So I get what Sarks said and I do. I believe they're one of the better teams, but three losses is really, it's going to be really hard for you to commit, convince
Starting point is 00:20:35 the committee considering the one, one and two lost teams that are in front of you, especially in the SEC. Yeah, but Oklahoma has a compelling case. But knowing how the committee is, especially when to come down, come down to the process, sometimes not really understanding how they come up with the decision making when it comes to certain teams going in. Do you think you think they still have a good, they still have a good chance? No, Ohio State is undefeated. Even if they lose in the Big Ten championship, they're going. They're going.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Indiana is undefeated. Even if they lose in the Big Ten championship, they're going. Texas A&M, they have one loss. Georgia, if they lose, they'll have two losses. Texas Tech, they have one loss. If they lose, they'll have two losses. Oregon has one loss. SEC Ole Miss in the same conference
Starting point is 00:21:26 that Texas is the end, they have one loss. Oklahoma has two losses. They don't play anymore. Notre Dame has two losses. Alabama has two losses. BYU, one loss, Miami, two losses. Utah, two. There are 15 teams.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Damn. 15. Now, if Vanderbilt wins tomorrow, they'll be 10 and 2. They play Tennessee. It's 15 teams that have fewer losses and ranked above you. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:59 So I don't. Was his, was his compelling argument? The fact that the schedule that they have is much more difficult than everyone else's, the reason is why they have two losses? He's saying our non-conference. One of our losses of the three is that at number one Ohio State. And we lost by,
Starting point is 00:22:15 I think he said he lost by seven points. I forget that was the very first game of the season. But guess who else is in that same conference you're in? Alabama. Alabama. Oklahoma. Oklahoma. Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Georgia, A&M. They played the exact same schedule except for non-conference. They lost 14 to 7, so they lost by 7 points. So, but you lost to Florida. You lost to Florida. So you lost to Florida,
Starting point is 00:22:44 you lost to Ohio State, who's the other one to? You lost to Georgia. So how do, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, Georgia goes to the SEC championship. and they lose again. How do you put them,
Starting point is 00:22:57 how do you put Texas in over Georgia when Georgia beat them head to head 3510? Yeah. And it wasn't close. Everybody remembers that game. That game wasn't close. Yeah. And the funny thing about it, too,
Starting point is 00:23:07 the committee can look at the type of team Florida is and how bad they've been. They've been extremely up and down all season long. And if you're, if you're one of the better teams that's supposed to be making the playoffs, that's the game you're actually supposed to win. There are no excuses about that.
Starting point is 00:23:20 So that's definitely, you know, going to be somewhat of staying and the committee going to take that into account where they could be on the outside looking in. The Big 12 has a championship game, and I think if Texas Tech win that, I don't know, Texas Tech might still go even with two losses. Oregon has one loss.
Starting point is 00:23:40 They play Oregon State. They win. They'll be 11 and 1. Ole Miss 10 and 1. Oklahoma 9 and 2. Oklahoma has beaten, I think, if I'm not mistaken, four top 25 teams. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:53 that's tough yes oklahoma lost to texas but they only have two losses two now last i check i mean now if you play in golf you want a high number you know you want to be minus three minus four minus five minus 15 but when it comes to ranking the lower number matters one team lost two games ranked higher the other team lost three games ranked lower so if that's the case so let me get this straight so what do we do with michigan if michigan beats ohio state do we put them in because they've only lost two games and they would have beaten ohio state the team that you lost to so how does that work so chat let's have some fun right now so what's going on how do we how do we resolve this if michigan beats ohio
Starting point is 00:24:49 state tomorrow there'll be 10 and two will have beat the number one of the number one of the number one one team in the country. Texas gets in, they're nine and three, lost to that same team. So you put Texas in over Michigan. It doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense at all.
Starting point is 00:25:08 But does it always make sense and who the committee chooses to go to the playoffs? Has it always made sense? No, because a lot of people thought, Ohio thought Alabama was going to make it last year. And they didn't. And I think Alabama had two losses, right?
Starting point is 00:25:20 Alabama was the only two loss, was a two lost team that didn't make it. The thing is, look, you get this. This is what you get, Ocho. Yeah. Because remember and it says, okay, it used to be, well, it was so arbitrary because you had the two highs ranked teams. Yes. And you play for the national championship.
Starting point is 00:25:43 And then it says, okay, we're going to take the four teams. And then that wasn't enough. And they said, we're going to take eight teams. And that wasn't enough. I mean, pretty soon, you're going to have them 40 teams played. Yeah. At some point in time, these kids got to go to school. Damn.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Because, okay, you got your top four seeds. They have vines. But everybody else got to play. So you have the opening round, then you have the quarterfinals, I mean, the quarterfinals and the semifinals and then the finals. Hell, these kids are going to be, I get it. I get it. It's damn near like professional football now.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Yeah, basically. But you see it damn they're going to be playing football in February. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And some of them, and some of them, Ocho got, got, got, got, got draft coming up, got the combine. Mm-hmm. And you know what?
Starting point is 00:26:26 You think some players, especially those that are high-brown picks, you think they elect not to play? That's going to be interesting, Ocho, because what we've seen in the past, if teams weren't competing for a national championship, some of the guys, the Leonard Ford Nets, Christian McCaffrey's, some of those top-tier guys didn't play. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It's going to be very, very interesting to see. Let's just say, I don't know off the top of my head, Who would it be? But would they consider sitting out? Right. Hell, you, listen, honestly, to me, you can't play the game of football.
Starting point is 00:27:04 Being. What you call the Michigan in the ball game, yeah. I mean, honestly to me, I mean, the game of football, you can't think about it. You can't be scared playing the game of football. You don't play it all season long. You made it just damn far.
Starting point is 00:27:17 I mean, one more game, get out there and do, get out there and do what you need to do. To continue to show, know, show the scouts, you know, what you can do. And obviously, playing against better competition. Shoot, I don't know. You know, it'll be four rounds, right?
Starting point is 00:27:35 So you play the first round, and then you'll play second round, then you play the third round, and then you play the national championship game. So somebody's going to have to, somebody's going to have to win. Somebody's going to have to win four games, Ocho. Yeah, basically. So somebody theoretically, I mean, Indiana, Ohio State could be sent the record and be 16 and 0 because there have been a couple of teams on LSU and Clemson that was 15 and oh so now you play it basically NFL season
Starting point is 00:28:04 so it's going to be very very interesting to see how this thing plays out Texas did look impressive tonight but I think it was a little bit I think the Florida loss really killed them yeah right the top four teams have buys three games okay yeah uh texas you'd probably had a i think texas would have a more compelling argument ojo if you don't lose to florida you can't lose the florida yeah i mean that that's everybody know florida's a bar and fire that's probably gonna hurt them yeah that's probably um the question is how far does texas a and m fall i don't think texasas and em drop it out of the top 10.
Starting point is 00:28:57 I mean, they went to Notre Dame and beat Notre Dame. Let's see where Notre Dame's ranked. Notre Dame's ranked number nine. They've been on the road to beat Notre Dame. How many ranked teams have L, has a, uh, A and M beat? So they had three wins over ranked teams at the time that they played them. Right. Missouri,
Starting point is 00:29:34 Notre Dame and LSU. So they had wins over three ranked teams. How many wins does Texas have over ranked teams besides the night? Okay, they beat they beat, they beat, they beat A&M tonight. Oklahoma. Yeah. Vanderbilt. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Okay. Vanderbilt's rank number 14. Oklahoma's ranked number eight and A&M ranked number three. Yeah. So Oklahoma was six at the time. Vanderbilt was nine at the time. But Florida was like 117th at the time. So all the good deeds that you done got under.
Starting point is 00:30:21 did by that. But it's going to be very interesting. They make a compelling case with how they took care of, Texas A&M. It's going to just be hard to put a three, put a three lost team in. That's what, because, I mean, Alabama last year, they beat number one, Georgia. They had some compelling win. So it's
Starting point is 00:30:41 going to be very, very interesting. It's going to be very, very interesting. I think, I think, like Ohio State, Indiana, A&M, and Georgia, I think there are locks. I think there are locks. Yeah. Alabama wins, Alabama's in.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Nope. Now, what would be interesting, Ocho, if they win, get to the SEC championship and lose. And lose. Now that's because, but they're saying this is why they want to do away with conference championships. Because now all of a sudden, somebody just sitting back with the heels up that didn't make the conference championship. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:14 And I lose. Now we got the same number of losses where they say, well, we saw you lost last, uh, just Saturday. so we're going to put this other team that didn't play. So I think that's why they're kind of head to the directional show. They're going to just do away with the conference championship. Yeah, that's that's something, that's somewhat unfair. Oh, absolutely.
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Starting point is 00:36:34 A.J. production, it rises, but the Eagles struggle still continue. Philly has the highest salary offense in the NFL featuring Sequin, A.J. Brown, DeVante Smith, and Jalen Hertz. Yet they enter the game ranked 24th in yards per game, a little over 300. 23rd in passing, less than 194. 21st in rushing, 110, 18th in points, 23.2. The Eagles are averaging 15 and a half points over their last four games. Today, the Eagles only ran 50. total plays to 85 by the Bears.
Starting point is 00:37:11 They split it on third down. There were four of 12 against Chicago's defense that ranked 27th heading into week 13. Oh, Cho? Yeah. Hold on. Go here. Hey, chat.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Hold, let me turn my lights on so you can see me. Nick Sariani stood by of Kevin Petula after the game saying he will not change play callers. We are not changing the play callers, but we will evaluate everything. It's never just been about one person. You win as a team, you lose as a team, and you try to evaluate everything and win, lose or draw, and get better from it.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I have confidence in this entire group. I know we'll keep coming back to Kevin. If I thought it was one thing, I'd make those changes. Obviously, it has a lot of different things. I don't think it's Kevin. Hey, hey, uh, let me tell you something. Hey, chat, listen to me real quick. If you have a car, right, if you have a car, Unk,
Starting point is 00:38:05 and your car's not working right, and you go to get service now everything else is going right except one thing everything is going going right except one thing and the rest of the world could see Stevie Wonder could see what the problem is with the offense right? Yep. I mean, what is Seriani looking at? Or is he being politically correct and saving, saving face and not saying what the actual problem is with the offense?
Starting point is 00:38:30 Obviously, we can all see us to play calling. It's been to play calling for a very long time. Everyone can see it. those that play the game of football and those that are just fans of the game itself if you're actually watching. They put the play calling again today. There were some plays that I was able to call out. I don't even play for the Eagles. I just watched the games and I can tell what is going to be ran. It's too predictable. It's too predictable. Like AJ Lottop on the left hand side outside. What is he running, chat? He's going deep. He's going deep. He's going deep. It's
Starting point is 00:39:03 I mean, it's the same, it's the same thing over and over week to week. There's really no creativity to their offense. Now, before when your officer line was healthy, when everybody was healthy, Lane Johnson was in there, Mackay, what was the big boy name? Mackay McKinkeye. Yeah, when Mackay Beckham was there, they were a dominating force up front. The passing game was so good week to week, and AJ Brown and Devante Smith were able to go off. The way they were able to go off was because they were able to run the ball at will.
Starting point is 00:39:31 every single game you take that element away the element of not being able to be balanced not being able to do both things this is what you get okay you take away the run game now the onus is on the officer coordinator now i have to be a little bit more creative because some of the things we did last year aren't working so what do i need to do offensively i got to manipulate the formations i got to show things that are different than what everyone has already seen on film that they've studied. But no, everything has been very generic, very bland, you know, for the, for the lack of better words, and everything is caught up to you.
Starting point is 00:40:13 At the team, a team coming off of a football win, you have to evolve. You're not going to win game the same way you win them last year. Don't tell the, don't tell the Eagles fans that because they told me they're going to do just what they did last year. Now, somebody that won back-to-back championships and know you have to. to evolve but i i don't argue with eagle fans because if you start to argue with eagle fans they're going to say you know what they say oh cho you just against the black man so i just let it go it's just another case of the man's holding us down hold on i said okay y'all know more than me i'm
Starting point is 00:40:46 gonna let y'all have it but okay when the super bowl like you won it last year wait hold on you say what they say what they're going to say what you against who jailer hurts oh now we didn't want to talk about we're going to talk about that that one he threw he threw that that was a man that was man And Devante Smith kept going and he threw it behind him on third down. But that's my fault. Why you point that out? Josh Allen had that same play three years ago. You ain't mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Right. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Will we make an excuse because of the elements because of the win? Will that play a factor in the throws? Well, the Bears wasn't playing on the tent. They was in them elements too. What the hell?
Starting point is 00:41:24 The hell? Okay, so we're not going to use the win. Okay, okay, okay. Hey, it'd be raining out there. They're like, hey, hey, you got to catch the ball. I'm like, they're not catching it either. What the hell you think I'm in a phone booth? The hell?
Starting point is 00:41:49 But, hey, Eagle fan. Did y'all see that? Did y'all see that was a man, that was a man read. Devante Smith rated this man. Even though what happened was the two men ran together. He kept it moving because it's man. Yeah. You got to.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Jalen Hurst threw it behind him. But if I were to, hey, I said, I said, look, Jaila, I said it was miscommunication. I've tried to be, hey, it was miscommunication. One guy thought it was on. The other guy thought it was man. Blah, blah, that's how you got to leave it now. Because if you say what really happened, they're going to be all over. You're a hater.
Starting point is 00:42:24 You just man. You're right. So I let them have it. Yeah. I let y'all have it. I don't even argue with y'all no more. Because y'all know more football to me. I'm telling you what it is.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Just like, oh, I'll say, I can look at Jay. I can look at AJ Brown. And I tell you where he line up, I'm telling you what he's going to run. Every time. I've been telling you all for nine weeks. I say, when he's outside the numbers and he's on the left, right side, he's running a goal ball in some shape of fashion. He's running a stutter go, a straight go, or out and up.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But it's going to end up a nine route. Yeah. And, Lord of my whole chat, what are he catching that touchdown? When he played Minnesota, what did he catch that touchdown on? When he played, I ain't going to say. Hold on, hold on, what side? I don't know, I don't really know no football. I just be on here.
Starting point is 00:43:05 How about this? On all the plays you just named, he's on the left side of the ball. Even though they were touchdowns, every time it's on the left side, it's the same thing. Yes. Same concept. Same route, just a little decoration before we get to the deep ball. Yeah. Every time.
Starting point is 00:43:22 So it's, it used to be a time you could properly evaluate because I remember when I played, Ocho, there weren't as many players that had to. platforms and you say i just wish that would evaluate me that actually played the game right that played the game at a high level you so because as more players gotten to it well i want somebody that played the game at a high level yes well you got two on here that played the game at a extremely high level yeah one guy's number 267 there ain't 400 guys they got a gold jacket there ain't 400 guys of 30 000 men that's played in the NFL that's coached in the NFL that's a team that's been a general manager that has a gold jacket so you're talking about one guy with
Starting point is 00:44:06 the six pro bowl was a multiple time all pro with the eight pro bows with a multiple time all pro one three super bowl but y'all get on here and argue with me talking about i don't know what i'm talking about now you have yet you y'all got to do what y'all want y'all see mike shanahan or gary kubiak y'all see wade phillips why don't y'all ask brian billick why don't you ask some of the quarterbacks that i played with man shenna be saying this on tv what was he like Did he know what he was supposed to do and see what they tell you? Yeah. Because y'all ain't going to believe me.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Y'all think I'm lying. I just, just believe with my eyes tell me. I mean, Jaylen Hertz is not a natural throw of the football. He's not. That's not to say he's not good and you can't win with him. Right. But he's not a natural throw of the football. That's in a game like this when the weather is inclemental choke.
Starting point is 00:44:59 you've got to make every play count. You can't miss that early in the ball game because maybe that's the death, but maybe that's the one like, damn, the bear's like, damn, they don't jump that on us. Yeah. You've got to capitalize on those, having been in those kind of environments,
Starting point is 00:45:16 now Chicago's like, okay, yeah. And then you must ride and miss a field goal. They later missed a field goal, but it's because points are going to be at a premium when the conditions are like that. You see what that ball did on that PAT, Ocho? Yeah. Man, he put it over here, that you know.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Yep, yep. Way over there. And he's looking at it. He's shaking his head, like, I don't know how that happened. Mm-hmm. Look like my golf shot when I did talk, talk golf. I know I aimed it at, but they ain't where it went. No, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:45:44 Listen, the turn, the turnover, too. Ocho, I, Ocho, you remember about three, four weeks ago, chat? Yes, sir. They took the ball out of Jalen Hurts' hands, and the official say the play was over. Yeah. They took it out of his hand. I said, no, you can't. can't do that because y'all let him keep on driving but you can't say when somebody
Starting point is 00:46:03 take the ball out of his hand or the play was over they didn't call they didn't call him and a dude came right in he's like oh give me this yeah snatched it right out got it right up out now what if they said his momentum will stop like they did the last time because the other time they did that they said the momentum stop and the dude had the ball well honestly that would be blatant cheating that would be believe i don't know what it'd be called but i know he was his momentum wouldn't start when the last guy took it out of the day of the end. But that's the problem that you have because you're trying to, you're trying to go forth.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And you can't have it like this because remember Josh Allen, Ocho, last year against Kansas City. He didn't get the first down. He didn't get the first down. He didn't get the first down. Exactly. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:47 That's a, but look, and we keep telling you. Yeah. The defense isn't the same. Your defense, Ocho, I had one of the great,
Starting point is 00:46:56 in 2000. one of the historically great defenses in NFL history. If you go back and look at the 100 plus year history, the Ravens going to be a top five defense. Easily. They weren't the same defense. And the only one thing changed, but they weren't the same.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Therefore, the team wasn't the same. Yeah. This is not the same. This is not the same team. They don't dominate the point of attack like they once did. Cam Jurgis, I believe is hurt. the center he's hurt more hurt than what they're what they're telling us uh lane johnson not being in there yeah hurt remember dickinson he had surgery before the season so he can't be healthy
Starting point is 00:47:42 no and you know if we know it's funny uncle you think about this this time of the season where everybody is every NFL team is hurt every player is nobody that's 100% well if you hurt if you have surgery coming into the season how healthy you think you're going to be doing the season you're going to limp your ass right out of them You're going to limp right, you're going to limp right back out of it. But we can't use axi injuries, you know, as a reason why they're playing bad. The Eagles defense has been carrying them all season long. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:08 The Eagles defense has been carrying them all season long, but today is one of those days where we need you offensively to pick us up. I need, I need y'all to help us out. Going four for 12 on third down and having turnover as well, that's the recipe for disaster. 17 carries 87 yards. Do you know how many yards? 17 carries, 87 yards. Do you know how many yards? God damn, not only DeAndre Swift, man,
Starting point is 00:48:37 I hate, I don't want to butcher young bull name. Mono guy. Yeah. I said the right, Mono guy? That's close enough. You can't call it mono, though. Yeah, okay. First, oh, Joe, first time since I think, like,
Starting point is 00:48:56 2014 or 2015, the two guys on the same team have at least 125 rush yards and a touchdown. So that just goes to show you how impressive what they did. 281 yards combined. Now, that's what I was saying. Now, sometimes there's games like this. Sometimes you have games like this. Hell, we just saw it from the Ravens offensively the other night. The defense has carried the load.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Damn, they're all season alone because you have. haven't really done much offensively. So these are one of the nights where the Eagles defense is not what they want to be. We got the goddamn Chicago Bears running all over us. Offensively, we need you to pick us up this night. We need y'all to take the weight off our shoulders based on what we've been doing for y'all all season long. Again, when we were winning, everybody said, oh, hush up, be quiet.
Starting point is 00:49:49 So what? We got the win. We got the win. But certain players, certain people on the outside that have gone. watched the game that understood the gripes that AJ Brown was having in season, it was more than just him getting his numbers. It was more than him just getting the ball. He can see it before it actually happened.
Starting point is 00:50:08 But now it's unfolding before everybody's eyes. I'm just trying to where the Eagle fans at. Oh, hush up, Uncle, no, Cho. Y'all don't know what y'all talk about. Fly Eagles fly. Now you've got your wings clip back-to-back weeks. I mean, you got your wings clip. Fly now.
Starting point is 00:50:26 We're Eagle fans, y'all has so much to say, you a hater, um, where are y'all now? I mean, the Bears must have had y'all for Thanksgiving. They didn't have a turkey, they had Eagle. But I thought it was against the Lauder Eagle. That's a good one. Oh, Joe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:46 The Bears was 10 of 17 on third down. The same thing that happened to the Chiefs last night. Yes. When they couldn't get off the field, the Cowboys was 9 of 16. I don't care what all you say every defense says look let's get the third down and get off the field I don't give a damn what you do on first and second down yes you can't get that office off the field on third down you're gonna get your ass kicked every time every time I ain't tell you what somebody told me I'm telling you what I know I don't give a damn what happened on first and second down yeah you can't get that office off the field on third down you will get your head split yeah absolutely and that's the money down yeah every every time and the most important day To me, honestly, the most important down is third down. But right after third down, I think first down might be the most important. Because what can I do on first down to make sure that when we get the third, it's manageable.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Yep. It's manageable, you know, anything. Stay in front of the sticks. That's that's what we preach, though, Joe. It's like baseball. So what, you get two strikes on a guy? It takes three to get that more four out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:51 So you get two strikes on him and now he hit that more four over the fence. What have you done? okay you get two strikes on him he's driving to the gap what have you done so you stop a team on first and second down you get the third down and you can't get him off the field you've done absolutely nothing mm-hmm hey they had to take it to win out yourselves especially because the more looks I get at your defense mm-hmm the longer I keep their ass on the field I'm gonna wear them down absolutely I'm gonna wear them down that's just that that's just that's just that's just football yeah
Starting point is 00:52:23 And Caleb Williams is getting better and better. He's getting better and better. And you notice what he's doing this year as opposed to last yocho? What's that? They got him under center. Oh, yeah. When you under center, you don't know what I'm doing. I might hand it off.
Starting point is 00:52:39 I might run the stretch. I might run the toss. I play action. You don't know what I'm going to do. No. You disguise a lot of things when you put it when you guys up on the center. The way they random, hold on. I was like, oh Joe, I tweeted.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I'm like, hold on, hold on, uh, uh, bears. Yeah, you're running the ball up and down the field and you got to get the guy dropping back to throw the ball. Man, I'm not going to step over a dollar trying to pick up a damn time. I mean, the guy getting 10, 15, 5, 4, 3, 6. Mm-hmm. And obviously you try to drop back, no.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Listen, and the funny thing about it is the game of football, as great as that, defensive line is for the Eagles, the game of football is one in the trenches. The Chicago Bears won that game today. They beat their ass. They won that game today up front. Blood in their nose. Because the Eagles pride themselves on being physical, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Yeah, they do. Especially with goddamn Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter sitting up there in that front now. They made their plays. Hey, but if I'm either one of them, Ocho, if I'm either one of them, they're like, hey, you Jalen Carter or Jordan Davis, nah. Nope. They made some play, nah. They made some play.
Starting point is 00:53:53 But you got damn the 300 yards. Ocho, do you know how hard it is to run for that many yards in the NFL game? You get two backs. Yeah. Ocho, hold on, let me go back. Hold on. You told me I run for that many yards. You know how hard it is to run for that many yards in today's game.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Yes. In today's game where the running game is the second option. Thank you. One guy had 22 carries. The other guy had 18 carries. Hey, them boy were toting that day. So even if you look at it, those two guys combined for 40 carries. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:24 What the hell? Yeah, I don't, they go one right there. Hey, speaking of, joining us now, here you. Hey, ran the ball today, 18 rushes, 125 yards, former pro bowler. Here he is, D'Andre Swift. Dee, what's going on, bro? What's going on, y'all?
Starting point is 00:54:45 How are you doing? Hey, yeah, we see you. Hey, y'all was told that thing today. What was your mindset coming into this game? Because you guys came in and said, look, In order for us to win this game, we're going to have to be the more physical football team. When you run the ball for almost 300 yards, there's no question in anybody's mind the most physical football team that day. Exactly that.
Starting point is 00:55:05 We knew we was getting into when we got off the bus today this morning. Hostile environment, defending champs, so it was all about physicality for us. Yeah, also, you know what I want to mention. I want to talk about the culture. I'm going to talk about the culture shift in which Ben Johnson is brought to this team, where it seems now you guys are playing completely different. You look like a completely different team as opposed to what you looked like last year.
Starting point is 00:55:29 I mean, talk to us about Ben Johnson and what he has done just for not y'all to be as a team, but that's our offense. That's the man right there, man. When him and every other coach came in, it was exactly that, the coach's shift. And that's what they was preaching from day one. We had to put the work in.
Starting point is 00:55:47 Training camp was rough. Early on, it was rough. Like they always say, Rome wasn't built in the day, so we knew we had to put the work in. And we still working, still things that we need to get better at, things like that, man. But I got so much respect for him on and off to feel how he goes about his business, his mentality, his approach to the game, one of the most smartest coaches I've been around. So, yeah, we go as far as he go. Well, there a little bit of like, okay, you know, I used to be here once upon a time, but y'all didn't think your boy can get it done. Let me show you what your boy can do.
Starting point is 00:56:19 You see that? Yeah, you can say that. I'm just, I'm going to let you tell it because I know how it is. Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. You know how it is, for sure. But I mean, look, you guys, I mean, you could tell what Coach Johnson comes in, you guys are under center a lot more and the way you guys run the football. But I don't know if you guys envision damn near 300 yards,
Starting point is 00:56:42 you're like, look, we want to control the ball. We want to, you know, keep their offense off the field. We want to keep them on the field. Keep pounding and eventually the cracks. we'll come and the crack will get it'll be instead of a crack it'll be a hole and we'll be able to run through it but you guys from the rip I mean you were getting up four you're getting up 10 the other guy comes in he gets four he gets 10 he get 12 I'm like damn now I thought you guys could have some success but not like this yeah I feel like maybe we shocked a lot of people that that don't be in the art building every single day you know what I mean so we know who we have on the team coaching staff and Shout out to the old line, man. We won't do nothing without them. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:57:24 They paid them for us. They was moving people. They make our job easy. So if they get me the second and third level, I got to go ahead and do what I need to do after that. But, man, like it was all about mentality and physicality today. Like I said, we knew we was getting ourselves into. That's bare kind of weather.
Starting point is 00:57:40 It's not like it's 75 in Sunday in Chicago. And I'm sure Ben, have you guys ass outside because you're going to play outside. If you guys play in Green Bay, it's going to be cold. You play at home, it's cold. You come to, and so it's ideal because a lot of teams that doesn't have to play in these kind of conditions normally. When they go and have to deal with these kind of conditions, they don't know how to handle them. But you practice in them. You play in these conditions.
Starting point is 00:58:06 So it wasn't out of the norm. Like, we do this. There's another work day for us. We practice outside, no heaters on the sidelines. Yeah. So any, any, any, whatever. Whatever the weather forecasters for that day, we'd be ready. Did you think there were any challenges?
Starting point is 00:58:24 Were there challenges offensively because of the win, because of the elements today where you guys had to run the ball a little bit more than you wanted to, but because you had success doing it, you kind of stayed away from the past the game and you picked your places when you wanted to throw it? Yeah, I would say that. Just me personally seeing how the game kind of went. It was windy out there today. ball was getting a little way
Starting point is 00:58:47 away from us on a couple of throws I would feel like just because of the win and we're having success early on in the run game so you kind of stuck with it you know what I mean? Like you said, trying to eat up the clock a little bit and to finish those drives. I said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I tweeted. I said, hold on. Ben Johnson, you mean to tell me y'all running the ball getting 100 yards of clip y'all getting the first dime damn it and you want to have this man drop back there and throw the ball in this kind of conditions? Make them stop to run.
Starting point is 00:59:15 Yeah. And the funny, hold on, the funny thing about it is, is, Dee, I don't know if you know, but I'm going to show you this little clip. I think going back maybe, maybe in August, where I said, you know, what was going to happen based on the personnel of what you guys had and Ben Johnson coming over there and what your guys looked like in the preseason, as, ask run that clip from me real quick. So, D. Chad, I'm going out on the limb. I'm going to say it before the season even gets here. The two teams that I think are the dark horses. to surprise everybody and make a run and having a playoff appearance, the Chicago Bears and the Carolina Panthers. I'm telling you, people might, people might, in the chat, you might laugh, let's say, yeah, right, whatever, whatever. I'm telling you, watch. And when it happens, don't call, don't call me Ultradamus. I just know, I just, I just understand how things are going to play out.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Hey, hey, Unk and D, hey, listen, I understood. I understood the mindset and what Ben Johnson is going to have I understood he's a player's coach I played with him I had an opportunity to beat him once I knew what he was going to bring to that organization I understood having Ben Johnson
Starting point is 01:00:28 and his creativity and what he can do offensively match with Caleb Williams' skill set and him being able to maximize the talents that he has then the supporting cast DeAndre you back there DJ Moore Rome I like you know what
Starting point is 01:00:43 the boy is going to surprise a lot of people, a lot of people that aren't even looking at the Bears as a team that can actually make a goddamn run. And lo and behold, here we are, after Thanksgiving going into December, who leading the division?
Starting point is 01:00:58 That's crazy. You even said that. That's crazy. Yeah. But you have familiarity with Ben Johnson because you played with, you was under, he was the O.C. When you were in Detroit. Yeah, my last year, my last year there, he was the, that was his first year as the O.C.
Starting point is 01:01:12 What I also didn't know, it was special for you you from billy you went back home yeah that's my city yeah that's where i'm from you're like hold on they didn't want your boy hey y'all come on out i got something for y'all y'all don't worry about the game playing don't even worry about it but i got something for them today y'all will be real proud now i don't need y'all don't eat a whole lot because i need you jumping up and down because every time i hit the hole i'm looking to get five or ten for sure yes sir How many tickets did you have to get? How many, like you said, you're from Philly.
Starting point is 01:01:46 So I know you had to buy a boatload of tickets. Total, I probably had like 26, 27. Damn! Yeah. Did they give you some good seats? They didn't put your way up in nobly, did. It was half and half. It was half and half.
Starting point is 01:02:01 Damn, and tickets is expensive. Now, ain't no more $75 dollars. They were high. I ain't going to lie. They was high, super high. There wasn't a black pie. The thing's high of the eagle butt, huh? Yeah, no big.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Black Friday, it does on the tickets. But because you, you, you, he was, Ben Johnson was your offensive coordinator your last year in Detroit. What were you able to convey about what the team, tell the team what they were about to get in a head coach, although he had never been a head coach, he was an offensive coordinator, and yes, he's going to call the plays, but he's got to oversee defense, special team, all that other stuff. What did you, what were you able to tell your teammates, what type of guy they were going
Starting point is 01:02:41 to be getting as a head coach. I could tell when he took over as OC for that one year I was with him in Detroit. I could tell just how he commanded the room. And that was just offensively. And I could tell like how he, like he said he's a player's coach sort of relationship that he had around the building with the players was, I feel like second to none. Like you can go up there. It's open door policy with him, you know what I mean, talk about anything.
Starting point is 01:03:03 He approaches it like growing men, any conversations you want to have, go holl at him about whatever. But one of the most smartest individual. I've been around when it comes to the game, knowing how to put people in position and play makers to go ahead and showcase their talents. So I was happy to be reunited with them. You guys are now in first place.
Starting point is 01:03:24 You ran for 282 yards, the second most this season and were dominant. But Ben Johnson did something in the locker room after the game. Let's take a look at this video. Kobe. Behind. Hey, Ben, being slow, nah. I'm being in the weight room.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Don't be in the weight room. Never let it rise. You can get better. Everybody gets back. Everybody gets back. And see, A, Unk, and D, a small cliff like that. It's small gift like that that give people on the outside looking in a reason why you guys are having success. Not just on the field.
Starting point is 01:04:10 the field but it's small stuff like that where you have a coach like that whose door is always open more than just a head coach but some you can actually talk to when it comes to um no other problems not even related to the game of football right you go out there and you run through a wall for somebody like that every time you're running a wall for somebody like that man so i i i saw it long before it even happened and to you guys man congrats on your success but you got to keep that thing going and make that run try to get down at the San Frans shit yes uh when we get a time hey man one of my former coaches had done that out of hand him a shirt man put that back on that couple hey don't hey don't let that get hey don't let that get
Starting point is 01:04:54 hey NFL film don't let this video get out of here yeah I thought he was tripping I ain't know he was about to do all that you took the shirt off I'm like oh I ain't know he was doing all of that I'm like hold on do are we supposed to take all our shirts off too I mean we're supposed to join What's really going on? Yeah, that's a man of the people right there. Man of thank you so much for joining us. DeAndre Swift had a hundred and twenty-five yards on 18 carries on a touchdown today. As they go in there and they physically beat up the Philadelphia Eagles by the score of 24 to 15.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Run 47 rush attempts, 281 yards, two touchdowns. Before you go, dear, you were in the back field with Chubb, right? Yeah, yep. And Sonny Michelle, yep. Yeah, yeah. So you're used to being a two-back system. Because when you and Chubb at Oklahoma, when y'all played Oklahoma,
Starting point is 01:05:48 Oklahoma jumped out to that lead, and then you come in there with spinning and revving it up. So this is ideal for you. You're like, man, I ain't going to have no wear and tear on my body. Hey, do your thing, yo, boy. Hey, let me go in there.
Starting point is 01:06:00 You don't got them softened up. Now let me go on here and hear them right here. Cross the head right quick. Yeah, I'm used to trying to make my opportunities count. For sure. Hey, that's it. You don't get very many. I don't have to make the, hey, I don't need that many,
Starting point is 01:06:12 but I'll make the ones that I do get count. Most definitely, most definitely. And then I'll make you give me more opportunity because you can say, hey, we got to get this man more touches. Whether we hand it to him or throw it to him, but we got to get him on the field and we got to let him get his hands on the ball. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yes, sir, yes, sir. Congratulations on a big win. The Chicago Bears first place in the NFC North thanks to a 24-15 victory over the Philadelphia Eagles, defending Super Bowl champ, they go into their building, and they take them down and they do it convincingly. DeAndre, best of luck, stay healthy the rest of the season, and we'll see you down the road. Yes, sir. Appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:06:46 Thank you. Appreciate you, man. Have a good one. Hey, they, oh, Cho, they, uh, bears look good. The bears, they're going to be no easy, offensively. They're not going to be no easy out now. No. They got two tight ends.
Starting point is 01:07:04 They got commit. They called a test out of day. Loveland is their guy that they can move. I think that's an advantage that you can have because you can get Loveland matched up on linebackers. You saw her to try to Kobe Dean. Complete mismatch. You saw him a blanket ship.
Starting point is 01:07:18 You see Colquemette sneak behind them and catch the touchdown. So they got tight ends that can receive the ball. They got great a Roma doonese. They got DJ Moore. Burton the third. Lula. Luther. Yeah. May. Excuse me. Luther. Yeah, Luther Burton, the third.
Starting point is 01:07:32 They, they, oh, Joe, I physically. And what they've done, they've rebuilt that offensive line because that right tackle, hell. And they got Joe Tuni, who's an all pro, who's a multi-time pro-bow player that all he knows is winning. He went from New England to Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:07:48 He don't know about winning. Yeah, that's it. He don't know about the LFC championship games of Super Bowl. That offensive line has gotten better. They rebuilt that. Caleb Williams is getting more and more confidence. You know, look, yeah, he was under 50%
Starting point is 01:08:02 today, but I thought he made some big time throws when he really didn't need to make those throws, but it was their running game that ended up winning this ball game. So congratulations to them. Hold on, what we got? Ocho. Yo.
Starting point is 01:08:20 And Arni? That was my daughter, that was trying to say how she just walked in. Hold on. You heard me? Ocho, you know what? In honor of you correctly predicted, the bare success will cover 100% of the cost
Starting point is 01:08:35 of nine bear wins people who make merch purchases in the next three hours. Oh, whoa, say that again, hold on this Black Friday. Say it again, tell them one more time. I'm about the blackout on somebody Friday. Hey, chat. You heard that?
Starting point is 01:08:50 In honor of you correctly predicting the bear's success will cover 100% of the cost of nine people. Right. So if nine bear fans order merch. Any money. Yeah. So, like, right, right now, like, right now, like, right now, what's the time in? So nine people will get their, their order totally free.
Starting point is 01:09:18 All you have to do is place an order. We'll reach out, deny to you, sending you a refund and covering the cost. Hold on. Let me see. I don't know who I deal that was, but that was mine. I show what they would check with the CEO. Can I. I wish they checked with the CEO of Shay, Shay Media.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Can I give it away. Ish. Can I be in that or do, am I? No. Okay, because I was on the site ready to order something too. Uh, if the work, current weather conditions, any indication of what's to come this weekend, the 49 of Browns are probably going to have so a lot of fun. When they meet on Sunday, expected rain, snow and gusty winds.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Check out this video at Brown's practice today, Ocho. Oh, hell no. What the hell is that? Oh hell to the no. Is that the rain? That's right. Yes. Oh, it's snow.
Starting point is 01:10:09 It's snow. Okay, that's not bad. It's rain and snow. Okay, I have one question for you. See, now for me, honestly, for me, for the, from a quarterback standpoint, I don't know. From a receiver standpoint, as long as that just snow, I'm good. It ain't just no, it's rain too. Now, now that's, that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Yes. Yeah, now, now that's a problem. I don't mind the snow. The snow ain't the problem. Oh, no, no, not at all. all get slicked and that rain, it get heavy. Yes. People don't understand that moisture, that pigskin, that leather absorbs that water.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Water, yeah. Like trying to catch a down bowling ball. Yeah, it is. It is. But let's hope it's not like that Sunday. Let's let's hope. I know it's going to be cold. Obviously, it's Cleveland.
Starting point is 01:10:53 They write down that goddamn water. Let's hope it's not, it can be cold, but give us one thing or other. Either you're going to rain or you're going to snow. Don't give us the combination of both. Don't give us. There's a combination of both. But they should kill me with that. Come on, Sharp, you got to catch that one.
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