Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Argentina COMPLETES COMEBACK vs Egypt + iShowSpeed ENDURES RACIST Taunts at World Cup + Switzerland KNOCK OFF Colombia + Belgium EMBARRASSES USA

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

Shannon Sharpe, Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson and Iso Joe Johnson react to Argentina completing comeback vs Egypt, iShowSpeeds encounters racism at World Cup, Switzerland knocks off Colombia in... PK’s and Belgium embarrasses USA in World Cup Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 00:00 - Introduction03:41 - Argentina beat Egypt21:12 - iShowSpeed enduring racist taunts from fans during World Cup games35:40 - Switzerland defeats Colombia38:20 - Belgium sent the USA out bad (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:20 man, man, man, what a game. Argentina down, oh, two. Hey, they were down to 79th minute, down two goals. And then, boy, Messi provided to Christian Romero. And the 79th minutes of gold. And four minutes later, the gold himself, Lionel Messi. And then, Messy, hey, Joe, Ocho. I was like, man, you mean to tell me Egypt is going to knock off the reigning,
Starting point is 00:06:48 defending champs, would many consider the greatest player they ever played? Is that what Egypt's about to do? Let's just say, man, y'all know I ain't going out like that. Man, I'm him. I've been him. And boom, boom, boom. And they win the game. Oh, Joe, what happened?
Starting point is 00:07:02 I don't know what happened. Obviously, it was two, it was two zero. I said, I tweeted out that it's not looking good. The refs can help. The refs can help Argentina too much longer. And then as soon as I tweeted that, Egypt went on the score. It's two zero. Now, so at this point, I'm like, okay, Egypt should be, yeah, it's in the bag.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah. Yeah. But there's the, there's a, there's a, there's a saying, two zero is a worst lead to have in soccer. Why they say it? Why is that? I have no idea, Uncle Joe, I have no idea. Long behold, here we go, messy magic.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Messy magic. Romero gets one, Enzo gets one, messy gets one. And before you, before you know it, it's three, two. And obviously, the Egypt head coach is complaining. he's saying the refs. He's not happy about, you know, some of some of the calls in the game. I think Egypt should have had a third goal.
Starting point is 00:07:55 If anything, the game should have been 3-3. There must have been a foul somewhere. I mean, listen, Argentina looked dead in the water until it mattered most. And Messi is one of the best, Uncle Joe, in those moments when you need it most, he always come through.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Now, some people will say, oh, the ref cheated, this happened. but those goals they still had to go in the back of the net that shot by Messi that was very very difficult that header by Enzo very very difficult obviously
Starting point is 00:08:28 not for them because they do it all the time but man it was a good game and you know messy messy's the real deal the messes the real deal again I understand his greatness a lot of people they were on my head on Twitter today after the game
Starting point is 00:08:44 and he's a lot of people's goat. I love him to death. I love what he's done for the game. But I don't know what else to say. I don't know what else to say about Messi that already hasn't been said. He to go. You haven't said that.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Everybody has been said that you haven't said. You say you don't know what it's to be saying. You out of your part your lips and say messy the goat, chat. I fought as long as I could. I fought as long as I could. I can't fight it any longer. Yeah. Okay. My bad.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Hey, hey, he might be, he won up him for damn show. Absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. He's one of them. And listen, it all comes down to preference. Now, when you argue about the goat debate, obviously, on one of the things that you and Joe are really good at doing is you understand the resume and the accolades and what every player has done to support your notion on why. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Who player said player is goat? Now, when I, when I say it, I'm saying I like it based on this individual's style of preference that I can actually relate to. I can relate to that. I can't relate to mess in any type of way because I'm not small. I'm not short. I mean, I can't do any of that.
Starting point is 00:09:57 But Cristiano, I can relate to the flare, the flash, the speed, playing on the wing. If I did happen to play football, I mean, play soccer.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I would be something like that with a little tad bit of craziness to it. I mean, that's what I can relate to. That's why I prefer him as my goat, as opposed to other people. And they bring up all the accolades. I understand. I know.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I know. You can't go wrong. Just for me, I prefer Cristiano. For those that like Messi, I love you. He's one of the greatest of all time. But I just... Well, it's not like a lot of other sports. Bigs don't ever get big.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Big, I mean, nobody really ever consider a big in basketball to go. Because of Cream and Will and Bill Russell, they don't even get no consideration. And you're talking about one, 11-11 championships, one got 30,000 points and 20,000 rebounds, and the other got six MVP's, six champions.
Starting point is 00:10:46 championships and ten appearances. And they don't really, so we look at going to hell. Won 11 championships? Bill Russell. Well, who the hell was he playing against? They won eight straight. Well, at that time, that was in the beginning. That was in the 60s.
Starting point is 00:11:02 They won eight of the 10 championships contested in the 60s. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, hey, A, Ocho, that's that Celtic pride. That's Celtic history, right? Yeah, he leading to charge in that. What the hell? Yeah. During the match, Hassan made the ex with his arms to report a case of racism.
Starting point is 00:11:22 However, it was ignored by the rep. Egypt after the defeat of Argentina at the World Cup said, we were wrong by the referee today. Everyone saw it. After 2-0, everything went and worked against us. I guess that's the signal for someone on the field. I guess someone on the field says something racist or use racist language or something. I don't know that that's something you can clarify.
Starting point is 00:11:45 I don't know. know, obviously in this World Cup, most of the time when players want to say something insulting to another player, I'm not sure of it's coming from the stands. It was referring to a player saying something, right? I don't know. We held hands up. Now, Argentina, I don't know, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:12:02 and there was a situation where somebody in the stand says something to speed a couple days ago. I saw that. I saw that. I don't know why people are surprised to Argentina. Do y'all not know history? Where do y'all thought? The Nazis and the fascist went.
Starting point is 00:12:18 When the fall, when, when, when Nazism fell in Germany, what did you think they go? What did Eichmann and Joseph Mingling the angel of death? What do you think they went to? Where do you think all those soldiers and all the upper ranks where they went to? They fled to Argentina. Peron gave him sanctuary.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Oh, my man, damn. Man, you know what Joe, I hate doing. How do you be doing all this stuff? That's what I'm saying. Hey, you're teaching me something here. Keep going. Hey, I'm in history class. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:51 Even though, even though I know y'all know the story about Evita, Ava Perone, who was the highest record, she was married to, I know who that is. Yeah, but the song, Don't Cry for me, Argentina. That'll have anything to do with what transpired. But even though, even though he got overthrown, got exiled, came back, won an election again, ended up having a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But y'all got to understand the history of this. Nobody's surprised, if you know history, nobody's surprised at all. Argentina. Now, I'm not saying somebody on the, but when he said, when that said that speed, I wasn't surprised. I might have been to one of the least surprised people, given the history of Argentina and how everybody that was under Nazi Germany, a lot of a high-ranking official, they got sanctuary in Argentina. So I was, I wasn't surprised by that. Now, I don't know when you throw up the ex-sign chat, y'all can educate me on that. What does that mean? With somebody
Starting point is 00:13:42 says something on the field, it's hard for me to believe that somebody can say something and the stands and then the fish is on the field. But I guess they could. They've done it before. They tried to clean that up, Ocho, because you used to hear chance and stuff like that. Yeah. We just saw a situation where the Paraguay, the senator
Starting point is 00:14:00 of Paraguay said something about I and Boppe. And then not she threw in the and refuse to apologize at that. Now what they did is World Cup so players can't throw insults. Most of the time what they like to do, Uncle Joe, they like to cover their mouth and talk to get the insults soft. But at this World Cup, if you
Starting point is 00:14:16 cover your mouth you get an automatic red card you get an automatic automatic red car so no one's been able to cover their mouth if you're gonna say anything if you're gonna sell somebody you gotta say it and obviously they don't want you cover your mouth because now they can read your lips and hey hey hey one thing about this world cup man playing soccer boy you gotta be tough out that don't you are oh cho oh oh oh yeah hey them boys jump down your hey them boy jumped down your throw in a minute talk you know what I mean talking man hey I say man look every time somebody jump up and getting somebody face
Starting point is 00:14:46 I'm like, shh. And you know, a lot of times, guys, these guys speak multiple languages. Yeah. Like you might be saying something slick that they don't understand. Exactly what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So you think you tried to get one off on them. They're like, hold on. What's your saying? Yeah. Yeah. But this was the unbelievable game. I just knew Argentina. I said, man, Argentina, y'all done.
Starting point is 00:15:11 Bro. You did. I said, ain't no way. And I'm looking. I'm like, damn, Egypt brought to pull off. And look. If you've made it this far, obviously you are very good team. It's not an accident that you're to the round of 16. That's not an accident.
Starting point is 00:15:25 But to be, and there are the reigning champs who's played unbelievable thus far. And they've got the best player, many consider the best player in the world or one of the two or three. Now, we know what he represents all time. But he still might be one of the handbooked two or three best players that's currently in this tournament. And we've got them on the ropes. and you know what the coach is saying I can just picture him saying it with the old Denny Green Argentina is who we thought they were
Starting point is 00:15:52 and we let them off the hook if you were the crowd and you crown their ass but they are who we thought they were and we let them off the hood. You know what's funny too, Uncle Joe? If you look at Argentina people in the chat, I'm sure you could agree with me
Starting point is 00:16:05 even if you like messy, even if you do like Argentina is their path to the round of 16 was fairly easy. Obviously the group stage play wasn't hard at all. It really wasn't difficult. They didn't have to play anybody. No disrespect to those teams that they did have to play.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And obviously, Cape Verde had a great showing, obviously, against Argentina. But I'm saying, and this was their first real test. This was their first real test of playing a top club, a club that can perform well and play well with them in all three phases of the game. And it looked to me, I was kind of, I'm not going to say I was nervous, but I also thought they had in the bag. Oh, you was nervous. You had to be nervous, my God.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I'm not nervous because I'm not going for Argentina, but I just, the messy magic showed up at some point. I mean, and obviously collectively as a team, they did well to come back and get in that game. But it was a joy. That was the most exciting game, one of the most exciting games of the tournament. Easily.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Well, here's the thing, though, Joe, let's just say for the, let's just say he wasn't rooting for Argentina because it would help his case a lot more if Bernardo goes out. Right. And Messi goes out right on. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Because the last thing that he wanted to see how If this man get another golden boot and another World Cup, because it's going to get harder and harder to make that argument, even if you like his stock. Not really, because even though Messi won the World Cup last year and Cristiano hadn't won one, I never used stats and accolades
Starting point is 00:17:27 when I talk about the conversation of who the goat is. Everyone else does. And not understanding my choice and preference of player is based on skill and technique and stuff of that magnitude. Well, then, how is he not skill? if he doesn't got all them, he's going to go.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Because I can, if I'm, if, let's just say, I can't go out there and mimic and try to emulate messy in real life. I can try and emulate
Starting point is 00:17:54 and replicate what Kreschano does. I can't? You should be able to be with messy because you could take off running and not every, running everybody to the ball and put it in the back of the neck. I don't get as easy as you think, man.
Starting point is 00:18:05 I know it's not easy. But with your speed, all I do give you a great lead, you take up. Hey, for one, listen, when Messi dribble, the ball is stuck at his foot, Joe. It's like, it's like, you know how you got a yo-yo and a yo-yo being on the screen. Yeah, I know what you mean. I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Pushing on him, tugging him. Yeah. Yeah, Messi, Messi got a handle like me. See, you got a handle like, let's see who you got to handle like. You got to handle like DeAndre Aiden or somebody. You ain't, you know what I'm saying? Your hand, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:18:39 You're handling the ball ain't what you do. feel? Yeah. Yeah. Little hand. Okay. Yeah. They call it they call them small hands. Okay. Okay. Okay. But they say messy is small. They say messy hands are only seven and a half inches. Do you know how small that is? That's a large lady's man. Do you understand how small seven inches is for a man to have hands that small? Do you
Starting point is 00:19:05 do people realize that? Yeah. That's why he don't have to use them. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what. I don't know. I don't know what. I don't know what he could play other than soccer with that small. He, he, he, he, he, he, he, out there with a glove. He out there with, I don't know what type of glove he's going to have. He'll have a kid's glove for real playing in the major. Hey, it's all good, man. But that joke was phenomenal, man.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Yeah. And just when you think he's done, this when you think, you can never count that joke out. He caught that ball in. Yeah, yeah. Nice little Bali, right out there, man. And then, then he put it, the only place you can put it to get in the goal. to go in.
Starting point is 00:19:43 He kicked that thing so fast and so hard, Ocho, I'm like, ain't no way. This man got to be praying. This is a praying man. Ain't no way. You can see how much that game meant to him after that game, he was crying.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Yeah. He was crying. He was crying because he know, he know the opportunity that they have now and what they had to overcome to get to hell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You're being, man, come on, man. They really supposed to have been down three nothing. Hey, I ain't going to say done. I ain't going to say done. Yeah, they, really poor hey that second that second goal by Egypt after they took that one yeah he came back there was a if you go like but they had done take his shirt off on that second when they took it back he came right back I saw yeah they
Starting point is 00:20:25 feel like Argentine gonna go down even Brady said hey man this might top 28 three man being down two goals in the 70 that that's about that's no no it's top that it don't top that Brady that's what Brady tweet is it's equivalent in a sense because it's the World Cup. So it's equivalent. Because Bradyman was down, Bradyman was down, I think Bradyman was down 283 with 306,
Starting point is 00:20:49 three minutes, almost a little over three minutes left in the third quarter. So they had about 18 minutes. So if you look at it, they basically had to overcome, they had to overcome what they did. So they had 11 minutes left to make it 90 and stop his time.
Starting point is 00:21:07 So they had about four or five minutes. So they basically had 14, 15 minutes to overcome a two-go deficit. of the Spurs in this finals, I ain't seen a bigger debacle. I'm serious than what the Falcons had against the Patriots. That's one of the biggest.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Yeah, I mean, you got to go back, well, just a couple of, what you call them? The Colts? No, Minnesota, who had to lead with 31-0 over the coast? Wait, 31-0. 30-something and nothing. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:21:42 That was this year? That was two years ago. Didn't Minnesota come back and beat somebody like that? Not 31, huh? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yes. Chad, who was that? Who had that lead like that?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Was that, did Indy beat Minnesota or Minnesota beat Indy? That must have been just a regular season game? Colts blew 3.0. Yes. Damn. 330. Buffalo came back in the playoffs against the, against the Houston, Houston, the Oilers.
Starting point is 00:22:19 330? Yes. Yes. We talked about it. That's how I remember. We talked about it. Yes. But it's, and I tell people,
Starting point is 00:22:30 it's easier to play from behind and come from behind as opposed to get a lead and try to hold on to it because you get conservative. Because what happens is that you're like, man, why you stop throwing it? Yeah. Why you stop doing it? because I'm trying to bleed the clock.
Starting point is 00:22:45 I'm not going to stop the clock. And I don't want to give them any, I don't want to give them any scoop and scores because every time I drop back, I subject my quarterback to get scripts at. I subject him to get a ball tip, Karen, and it gets picked. So I'm trying to do everything I possibly can
Starting point is 00:22:58 to keep us out of that situation. So you start to play extra cautious. I get to get extra aggressive because I'm already down. Don't give it down. I ain't got nothing to lose. Yep, absolutely right. You got everything to lose.
Starting point is 00:23:10 You're supposed to win. Like I said, that's why you said 33, nothing, 33 nothing, you're supposed to win the game. I don't give a damn what happens. Damn. Not in today's game, not in today's game, fellas. Not the way it's played. It's just like basketball. It's easy to come back now.
Starting point is 00:23:25 What a three point shot. And everybody's shooting so well. You only had like a handful of guys. Right. Now you got a team, two or three guys can get hot and make five, six in a row. And what was a, what was a 20 point lead is down to six or eight inside of two minutes.
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Starting point is 00:28:29 I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's not my thing either, but we're here. When in Rome. Top athletes. chefs, musicians, everybody. Listen to Paul's best podcast on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last week while streaming at Argentina's win over Kate Birdie,
Starting point is 00:28:48 a different fan speed in Spanish, go cry at the zoo. Damn. And you know the Paraguay lady, what the Paraguay Senator, what she said to Mbopi. I'm saying, does this surprise you on Ocho, though? No, hell.
Starting point is 00:29:04 No, no, not Argentina. No. Even in Belgium. People understand the story of Belgium, and people talk about these horrible dictators. And I hate assignment where he was working. If you're a dictator, you're bad. So I hate assigning where he was worse than him.
Starting point is 00:29:18 And we mentioned dictators. We mentioned Stalin. And we mentioned, uh, uh, uh, and we mentioned, uh, who was that, Ediam. And we mentioned penitia. And we mentioned, uh, uh, Pol Pot. I don't know if people know about King Leopold of Belgium and what he did.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Go study. And they go look that up. When they talk about all these others, go look at what King Leopold did in Belgium to those people. Oh, my God. And then you're going to start to say, well, hello. Why don't we talk about him like we talk about some of these others? Oh, my goodness.
Starting point is 00:29:59 That's why I wanted them to beat Belgium more than anything. Now, look, I'm not feeling to sit here and try to put us on a pedestal, because we've had our own share of atrocity. right here in America, okay? So, chat, I don't want you to think that I would ever. I'm just saying there are things that have happened in society that we try to brush over. And sometimes even if you try to brush over, it doesn't go away. Nope.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Man, this, I wrote a, hold on. I wrote a quote down today, man, that Einstein said. And man, this thing spoke to me like, I don't know if anything has ever kind of spoke to me, kind of like this. Like, uh, hold on. Let me find this. quote. Oh, he says whoever runs with a lie at some point will eventually trip over the truth. Nothing remains hidden forever.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Eventually, no matter what you scrub away, no matter what they do with the textbooks, no matter what they do, no matter what, try the story they try to tell, nothing remains hidden forever. People who do their homework, they'll do their research and they'll find out. But I'm not surprised. When they said Argentina, I was like, okay. I'm not surprised. I mean, especially in soccer, you know, racism has always been prevalent, depending on the league that you're playing. Players have had to deal with it.
Starting point is 00:31:26 There was an incident, obviously, with Vinnie, when Vinnie, when Real Madrid playing Benfica, there was an incident. And just over the years, it's always been issued racism in general. And it's always been a part of sports, you know. you get rid of it. Sometimes they ban fans when they're able to catch who the fans are. But it'll always be there, Uncle. It'll always be there.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It's as American as Apple Pie. Yep. I'm just going to take it as what? I got to write that down. He's as American as Apple Pie. I mean, some things are just inherently in the game. I mean, I read that before, you know, whites wouldn't fight blacks because they said they didn't deserve a chance at the championship.
Starting point is 00:32:10 They wouldn't fight them. And think about it, they had to pass legislation to get blacks to be even in the league. You remember there wasn't no blacks in baseball. They wasn't no blacks in football. There wasn't no blacks. You hear the first black, the first this.
Starting point is 00:32:23 What, Jackie Robinson in 1947? Man, they've been playing baseball since the damn of 1800s. Late 1800s. It took damn near 100 years. Damn. Oh, yeah, there were no blacks in football. Hey, give them the history on how long. Man, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:40 What I hate doing. Are you good? You're going to get bad. They're going to get bad at a little. They're going to get bad at a vote, Joe. And they're going to say, you, you break your policy. I'm sorry. Politics is the part of the sports.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Tell them how long it took they get a black quarterback out there. Oh, bad. Well, if I'm not mistaken, I think Marlon Briscoe was the first black to start a game. And he was in the Broncos, I think, in 1968. Now, you had Shaq Harris for the Rams. You had Marlon Briscoe. You had Joe Gilliam. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Jefferson Street, Joe. So we had some, but it wasn't until Doug did what he did that they really, really felt. Because unless you win the big prize, Ocho, they say, oh, yeah, you won a game or two. But can you win the ultimate prize in which how you're judged? And that's a Super Bowl. And once Doug did that, it's like, okay, maybe they can. I mean, think about, go back and I think what, I saw a thing with, Hank Aaron was doing a story
Starting point is 00:33:42 about the hate mail that he was getting about he was about to break Bay Ruth's record. Yeah. It was bad, man. Well, it was so bad, Joe. It was, well, people don't even know. But they want to, but they see, but see what they do is they say,
Starting point is 00:33:59 well, you had a two-term black president, so racism had to be gone. See, they'll take an isolated incident. They'll take a situation like Joe, or myself or Ocho, someone that's made it. See? you made it.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Everybody can make it. Come on now. Come on now. It's crazy. You got to realize, I mean, hey, you didn't have, I mean, supposedly we had rights, but it took the Voting Rights Act in 1965. Yeah. The Fair Housing Act, it had so many. I mean, you had to, it's in the Constitution,
Starting point is 00:34:37 what you're supposed to be able to do, and we still had to go fight for it. People died. March the Edmond, Peders Bridge and Selma. When the boycott, the bus boycott, the same thing in Greensburg, the city is. That was in the Constitution.
Starting point is 00:34:53 We're supposed to be able to vote. We're supposed to write the vote. And we still got to die for it. So I'm not surprised. But I don't want people to think it's just your hell. Open your phone. You see it on social media. Somebody constantly used the, I saw a guy,
Starting point is 00:35:12 I think a guy, he got, I think he got three, 10 years, three, five years in jail. He ended up punching a man because he kept calling. of his kids the N-word and he said they had a history of that. Yeah. So I don't want people think it's just Argentina or it's just Belgium or it's Europe. Good old, good old America. We got our fair share right here too.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Yeah, absolutely. We got our fair share right here too. So I'm not surprised. So hopefully, like you said, Ocho, it's not leaving. It's not going to where because, hey, Ashton also said something also. He said so very interested in it. I know this to be true.
Starting point is 00:35:47 He said, watch how what people say to you when they're angry. He said, they've been dying to tell you that. Watch how people talk to you when they get angry, Ocho. They've been dying to tell you this. Okay, so, okay. Cambodia really meant that. Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Baby. Okay. Yeah. Remember how I said, Ocho, people get, and people use that as a, see, alcohol breaks down your inhibitions. See, you won't do anything drunk. at least thought about sober. Because your mind won't let you go there.
Starting point is 00:36:21 See, alcohol breaks down to inhibition. The fear that you had of maybe doing that. And then what did they say? Man, I was drunk. You thought about that while you were sober. Now, I got a question. Now, I like... Out of the mouth speaks the heart.
Starting point is 00:36:35 That's what the Bible teaches us. I like that. I like that. So, yeah, so, Juncker Joe. Now, give me this one now. Now, you know, you got people that sleep all, you got some people that talk and they sleep. So last night, I was sure.
Starting point is 00:36:47 sleeping and I kept hearing something and Cambodia was she was talking in her sleep. So obviously wouldn't the truth be that that would also be the truth whatever you say in your sleep? Well what was she saying? That's a that's a subconscious. It's like
Starting point is 00:37:05 Chad you ugly. That's an involuntary response. Huh? Go ahead, don't you Joe? What she say? What did she say? Oh Joe? She probably said that. She would probably wide away. That's different. But, I mean, people use, and people use, I was angry, I was upset. That's how they really feel, huh?
Starting point is 00:37:35 That's how they really feel, always. Kids, angry people who generally tell you the truth. Yep. Because they'll suppress a lot of things and then speak on it. And, look, and, but I was like, huh? But I'm not surprised by this. I mean, I wish,
Starting point is 00:37:53 I mean, this is, if Dr. King was still alive, he'd be over 100 years of age, he'd still be disappointed. Yeah. He still be disappointed. It was a good fight. The message in what he was trying to get across was awesome. A lot of people died for that. A lot of people still fight for that this day.
Starting point is 00:38:12 But with great understanding that we got a long way to go. And even though we wanted to end, it's something that is highly unlikely because there's so many different people that will never because you have to look at society how was it founded how was America found it take your time y'all know what they did y'all know what the people that was already here what they did
Starting point is 00:38:35 not only did they kill them and steal their land they gave them blankets that was infected with smallpox so when they went on the trail of tears they were dying along the way so they could steal more than land come on come on man I don't want to get our sponsorship taking I don't want to do it I don't want to do it Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Don't know how America was founded. Chat, no. So think about it. Think about all those countries that got invaded and they stole their value with their artwork. The Nazis, when they took the artwork, when they, an Austria and all these countries, what did they do?
Starting point is 00:39:14 They made them give it back. But you come take these people land and you rob these black men that was sharecroppers and purchased this land and you took it from them and when they say give it back you said no but you know what Chad up I don't said enough
Starting point is 00:39:36 I don't said enough y'all y'all go see I chat we I've tried to get us I'm trying to get us some sponsorship and I don't know if this is helping our cause but chat y'all know I'm telling the truth anything that y'all disagree with me with go read they know it they know this it's blown to them
Starting point is 00:39:53 because normally You take something. If you take something, normally, if you take something, you steal something, Ocho. They find out, what do they do? They come give it back to the rightful owner. No questions ask. How can you purchase something that you didn't need to? They already live here.
Starting point is 00:40:15 They already had it. You can't purchase something that's not for sale. Man, I bought the Statue of Liberty. It ain't for sale. I brought the Brooklyn Bridge. It ain't for sale. So how'd hear you buy something that wasn't for sale? you took him
Starting point is 00:40:28 and then you put them on a trip and look where they put them at a little small pockets of land Arizona and a whole lot growing in Arizona Oklahoma y'all see what they did they used to be up and down the south
Starting point is 00:40:46 shawnee chicktoll the lumber lumbey up and down what they had now they still got the seminoles they still you know hey Florida State Seminole they're proud they're a proud group some of them
Starting point is 00:40:59 the Apache, some of them still won't want their name. Some of them are upset that the NFL removed that from the commander. The commanders now what it used to be. Some of them are upset about that. But they know. That's why
Starting point is 00:41:15 it's really hard for me to talk about other countries when I know we've been one of the biggest pervils. Violence of systemic racism. The biggest prevail. What do you think? We learned it from.
Starting point is 00:41:34 Violence is learned. Talk. Oh, so that's how you get it. That's why you have to be careful if you're a child and had violence perpetuated against you. You'll have kids that if you're not careful, what would you do?
Starting point is 00:41:50 You do to your kids what were done to you. So that's how you can get that. So I can get me something. Okay. See that. It's a cycle. I mean, let's go. Let's go, man.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, may it make me think about something, man. It made me think, damn. I ain't learned nothing in history, Claire, because I don't know, nothing shit you're talking about. I was like, I was like,
Starting point is 00:42:19 I got to be there. All right, all, all. I will say this. And, yeah, I'm going to, I'm going to pat HBC you on the black, on the back. There's no way I'm as informed and as knowledgeable as I am.
Starting point is 00:42:34 had I gone to a PWI. The curriculum is completely different. Completely different. They want to make sure that their best, Shannon, you're going to be something. We want you to be our best representation. Argentina would not face Switzerland
Starting point is 00:43:02 in the quarterfinals. They defeated Columbia in the defensive master class. Match ended. Couldn't get it solved in stoppage, couldn't get it settled in extra time. Switzerland won on PKs 4-3. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Ocho? It was a good. This was a very good game. Hey, I thought Columbia had it right before half. I mean, he got off a hollet, sir. That goalkeeper, that goalkeeper from Switzerland. Yeah, he was a baller. Hey, it's been some good goalkeeping throughout this whole World Cup.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Yeah, man. Absolutely. Columbia had a few chances, too, an open play, huh? You know, I can't remember number 21's name for Columbia, he had he had a shot. They had the right towards the end of the game, and he skyed it. He scyed it. He curved it too much.
Starting point is 00:43:45 That could have won the game for them before it even went to the extra time. Outside of that, really good game. Both teams, obviously, they had their opportunities on goal. The goalies played extremely, extremely, extremely well on both sides. Obviously, it came down to PKs. I don't like PKs because you don't know it can go either way. A lot of people, I think a lot of players, it makes them a lot of, uncomfortable to have to kick PKs as well, as you can tell by some of them that are missing
Starting point is 00:44:11 and not confident. You can just tell them their body language when they get up there. So, I mean, listen, Switzerland is really, really good. So when they play Argentina, it's going to be a really good game, really, really good game. So I'm excited. Man, that dude from Switzerland, he kicked the ball so far than there. I say, because I could have did that. Georgia, that wasn't even close.
Starting point is 00:44:37 And he was like, Lord, please let us win this game. Please let us win this game. Oh, my goodness. And I think the thing is the Colombian goal kicker. He's like, you know what? They've been going this way the whole game. Let me, and he gets wrong. He gets wrong.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Because he almost got his hand on it. On the first one, he almost got his, he got his hand on it, but the guy put so much on it. It still got past him. Yeah, but he's like, oh, I was right there. And the Swizzler guy, he had two of them and went right up, right up under. So he was on it the whole game. He was, oh, man, he was phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:45:19 It was nice. Now we ain't got no soccer tomorrow. No soccer tomorrow. That's the one thing I don't like when it gets to the round, you know, round of eight. And now you got to wait. It was so exciting. What, Thursday and Friday? Yeah, Thursday and Friday, but, I mean, what the hell on?
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Starting point is 00:49:28 Let's talk about the best moments that we had on the road. I would love a goddamn. Do Joe could get last row, middle scene on a Southwest Airlines flight? Joe, I was your flight. It was great. The guy on Penn State, who were on the field. And the player thought Joe is his former coach. And he hugged him.
Starting point is 00:49:45 And he hugged him. And Joe just went with it. And the guy goes, what are you doing here, coach? And Joe just goes, man. And you walk in, and it is bananas. I mean, it's a feast for the eyes. And I was like, it's not my thing either. But we're here.
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Starting point is 00:50:21 Belgium has six shots and one goal in the first 10 minutes of the game. Malik Tillman scored in the 31st minute, the tie the game 1-1. But one minute later, Charles K. K. Tillerah, K Tillerah, scored the second goal of the game.
Starting point is 00:50:36 So we score in a minute later, they done to lead again, Ocho, Joe. You're right. Matt Freed, I don't know what he was thinking. Ocho, I need you to help me understand what he was thinking on this situation. Belgium got the final goal in the third minute and stoppage time. Ocho, four to one and this is what I said. And I say this and I believe this in sports. When you get beat really bad, they do your favor.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Because we have started to think that we were really close. Joe, we're not close. So we're not close. We're not close. So Belgium did us a favor to let us know, guys, we had our hope way, way too high, way too high. And I got involved and I still, hey, I still, I'm waiting on my damn battle gun journey to come in.
Starting point is 00:51:22 But we're not, we're not there. We're not there. Hey, uncle and Joe, we got out class. When I say out class, we got out class in every sense of the word. The gap. And I think want people. obviously I have my soccer people that in the chat that are probably watching the gap between
Starting point is 00:51:39 the top soccer nation and the U.S. is so far apart. They're technically better. I think they're a little bit more skilled and it showed them like the mistakes that some of the U.S. players were making where they could even make simple pass and Joe, simple passes right there in front of you.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Oh, Cho. What about clear? What am I clear the ball? They make a little league mistakes. Uncle Joe, Little League. The basic fundamental. that you learn when you four five years old that you're supposed to master by the time you get to, you know, on the
Starting point is 00:52:11 world stage. That level. It was bad, man. Ocho, I agree with you. It's definitely levels to this and we just not on that damn level. Okay, Ocho. And listen, when I'm looking at it, man, we can't win no one-on-ones. Hell, we barely can even get lateral passes.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I'm like, damn. It's like we're playing more backwards than forward. You feel what I'm saying? So when I'm watching, I'm like, damn man we can't we can't get no rhythm bro and look you're right y'all right Belgium saved us ass for them from Spain here we were gonna play Spain yeah you know man please you want you want it you want to know why they were going backwards and I'm gonna use basketball analogy let's say the Nixon plan right you pass the ball to Jalen Brunson
Starting point is 00:52:56 and they pick up 94 feet you know what I'm trying to say yeah hot yeah yeah yeah pressing the whole time and we not comfortable playing out the goddamn back. Not only are we not comfortable playing out the goddamn back. They messing up the passes so everybody looks sloppy. The USA team for the first time, and you know it's my fault too. Because I was praising them every week we came on here because they looked so good in every game they played.
Starting point is 00:53:21 What's the first thing I said? I've never seen the USA team look so comfortable on the ball. I've never seen our players play like this with that kind of confidence. They move the ball really well. All of a sudden we play a real team. God damn, we go right back to, we go right back to you go what? Listen, them last two goals,
Starting point is 00:53:39 they just, oh, they just disgust me. I mean, I'm like, come on. Man, you can't let nobody, you can't let nobody come knock on your door, on your front porch. Hey, man, come here and catch his fade, homie. You don't do nothing? Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:53 No, he opened the door and slap you. You free? Oh, you want to fight? What do I want to fight? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Hey, hey, I mean, bro, I, Hey, bro. Hey, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Polisic, you owe the U.S. team, bro. You think he was hurt? That's what you put on tape. What you did this World Cup? You think he was hurt, huh? Sit down. Because all I saw was Polisic on the back. I don't know what he was.
Starting point is 00:54:22 But he didn't play with him. They couldn't clear the ball. They couldn't control the hell. Bro. And then they look at it like, like, oh, my goodness. I think until a lot of people, what I don't like, a lot of people,
Starting point is 00:54:38 I hear a lot of people keep saying this in this discourse, and this dialogue on Twitter and on Instagram, if our best athletes played soccer, and they started mentioning all the NBA players, all the NFL players, that really, the infrastructure in which we have here, if all our best athletes did play and trained here in the United States, we'd still be levels behind.
Starting point is 00:55:04 we'll still be left behind, even if we started from four or five years old because we don't have the infrastructure in the academies that they do. Yeah, you'd have to divert money that you put towards football, the war you put basketball, to what you put towards baseball,
Starting point is 00:55:17 you'd have to divert that to soccer. Like they do, they don't have, they don't have all of that. No. How many, how many Argentine and baseball players they got? How many Belgian baseball players they got? How many Swiss baseball players they got? Yeah, everybody keeps saying,
Starting point is 00:55:31 oh, we're so fast, we're so tall, Where the fast is, and people don't understand, it had nothing, speed is, is, is an asset. Being fast, that's a good thing in soccer, but everybody ain't fast. Yeah. The technical ability to be able to play with the ball at your feet is more important in your IQ and understanding of the game,
Starting point is 00:55:52 being able to see, being able to see, being able to see, being able to pass is, it's much more important than just being fast. That's just, that's just half the damn battle. Yeah. But. we see a lot oh joe if that's the case all the fastest men the fastest 100 meter men why ain't on the football field if that's all it would require we've seen a lot of guys come
Starting point is 00:56:14 out there and try that that ran track and they take their ass right back to the track yeah i don't peep it on okay they dig hey go back and look when ronado nil maire he ran that shallow cross and he didn't know it was man on and he and he was looking at joe and joe thought oh you looking at me? When you're telling me it's man. Look at it. John Capel tried it.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Jim Demp's tried it. It's not a whole lot of guys. You need to be able if speed is great to have, but if you can't control it, it ain't going to do it. It's different. It's different.
Starting point is 00:56:56 But like you said, Ocho, that's not, I mean, guys like they grew up soccer has always been their big thing. in those countries. Just like basketball and football and baseball has been our big thing here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Now, you know, you see all of a sudden some of these guys, you look at Serbia. You see they get basketball. Because they're putting more emphasis on it. How long? Since the dream team in 92, they're like, oh, I can probably do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I can do that. You look at, you look at, your, Yonnis. It's like,
Starting point is 00:57:36 oh, I can do that. You know, they're in a whole lot that one of, what that physicality come with that football field. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:43 That's a whole, that's a whole different animal them now. Hey, they don't care, how fast you are, boy, look here. Eventually,
Starting point is 00:57:55 they'll hear me up. Yes, uh. They'll run you into something. Man, Belgium beat the brakes off us. And I'm so disappointed me, my sister, man, my sister, my sister couldn't even all the talk.
Starting point is 00:58:06 So that was embarrassing. You know how, you know how I knew and I didn't get a chance to share this because I can't write it. I didn't want to write it on Twitter and had that long-ass speech. But I hear a lot of people saying, oh, our best players, if they played, if they played soccer, we dominate the World Cup. And I just made one statement and told them, probably not, probably not. Even if there's no guarantee, even if we did start from four or five years old, that it was
Starting point is 00:58:33 still translate. Think about how many Brazilians there are, right? How many Brazilians play soccer in general. But there's every, every few years, there's only one. There's only one Namar. There's only one Ronaldino. There's only one Ronaldo. So of all the Brazilians that've been playing, you know, with that infrastructure and ecosystem that they have out there, playing with flair and sort of like streetball, still not that meaning have been, not that meaning of come along. Not that meaning of come along. I remember, but that's all they got. no, Ocho. They ain't playing basketball.
Starting point is 00:59:04 They're not playing baseball. They're not playing baseball. They're not playing. They're not a lot of. So, I mean, that's, I mean, think about it. When you, if, if you said, okay, you can only play baseball. And there are a smattering of guys that play football or smattering of guys that play basketball. Well, you don't get a lot of, like the Dominicans, like the Venezuelans, like the Caraco.
Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah, Kirasat. Yeah, Kirasai. I think Andrew Jones from curious. So yes. So yes. But when you got millions of guys playing football, million of the guys playing basketball, million of the guys playing baseball,
Starting point is 00:59:43 man, what you think you're going to get? You go get a dabbling of this, dabling of that, a dabbling of this, as opposed to all your focus is on this. The Brazilians, the infrastructure is what? Okay. You have something that are good, Then you have great ones.
Starting point is 01:00:04 So just because we all play, doesn't mean we all going to be great because we're great at football or great at basketball. It might not translate. It's completely different. You know, you know,
Starting point is 01:00:13 it was eye-opening to me, Unk? And Joe, I'm going to share this real quick and for people in the chat. What's that? I mean, I'm sure those that follow me on Twitter
Starting point is 01:00:20 have always seen the pictures that I send or our post with Messi and Cristiano over the years. Back when Messi was at Barcelona, when he first debuted, when Ronald, when Ronald Deño went in Samuel Eito
Starting point is 01:00:31 were there, And obviously there's pictures of me and Jose Marino, who's now the head coach back at, he's back at Rio Madrid for his second stint, right? Unk, I think, I forgot what you, I think it was 2007, 2007. I can't remember what year was I went down to Real Madrid in the offseason. But damn, you just said 2007?
Starting point is 01:00:51 You just said 2007. No, I'm trying to remember the year when Marino was there. 2007 is a year. Okay, hey, come on, Unk, I'm trying to make sure it's the right year. But anyway, to make them, to make a long story short, I went to see Cristiano in the team, and I asked if I could practice with them. Because it was a, they didn't play till, they didn't play till Saturday, and they got there on the Thursday.
Starting point is 01:01:14 So they let me put on the orange reserve jersey. So I was part of the reserves. Now, they don't play big field. They play the smaller fields. My football season just in and up. So I'm like, I'm in shape. You feel fresh. So you feel good.
Starting point is 01:01:28 So I'm in my mind, my ego, being kind of arrogant and cocky. man, I'm going to fly about all these dudes. And my skill and technique wasn't as good, but I just knew because I'm fast as hell, I'd be able to get by. Joe, though, they embarrass me for about 30 minutes straight. I mean, no, no, no, I'm not trying to be funny. That's why when I look at, I'm hearing the discourse
Starting point is 01:01:51 about our best athletes, my year, I'm still in my prime. I'm in my prime and I'm playing with the reserves. And it's a small field. So it's a, it's a shorter distance for me to be running. I should be able to do it. They made me look stupid. I was out there like a chick with my head cut off trying to catch the ball.
Starting point is 01:02:08 I couldn't even see the ball at that level. Dog, everything is precise on point, on pricing. And nobody made mistakes. And, dude, it was embarrassing for me. It was humbling, but I also understood there's levels. Now, this is Real Madrid. I mean, obviously. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:26 I mean, we talk about one of the best club, if not the best club in the world, especially during that time. it was eye-opening. There's levels to pros. I don't know how many people have ever seen a tennis match. But go watch a tennis match. Of close.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Yes. I did an exhibition in Baltimore, Pete Sanfrey-Agris, and to watch Sanfrey-Apros hit that ball. Now, Sanfrey was a huge server. Now, you know, now we had those big guys, and back then everybody served in Bali. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:58 You hit the ball, run to the net. It was these quick points. Now everybody play baseline to baseline. You know, that was before John Isner and Carlovak and, you know, we had even these events and we had some cratchack. We had some big service. But now the guy, they can serve, but they don't, they play baseline. Everybody stand back and wait for you to make a mistake.
Starting point is 01:03:18 These guys, you know, when you had Stefan Edberg and you had those Boris Becker's, you had guys like they hit the ball and they go to the net crowd and make you make a great pass. But when you see people that they do this for. the highest level. It gives you an appreciation. You're like, I be damn. Yeah. When you watch a pro hit a golf ball,
Starting point is 01:03:39 that ball is different than when somebody, you know, oh, yeah, I go down there, me and my buddy play on the weekend. That issue is different. You go to an NBA game and you watch the guy and tell me, man, that guy is bummed. He'll never get in the game and watch him shoot it. Never miss. Man, I told you, I watched Chet.
Starting point is 01:04:01 Chet hit like 17 threes in a row from one spot. You watch these guys, I'm talking about pros, and you look at him like, bro, how are you not in the game? And then that just goes to show you. The guy that is in the game, just how good he is. Yeah. Because these guys are really good. But when you see Jokovic and you see Nadal and you see Federer,
Starting point is 01:04:26 you see all these guys, now you got Sen and Alcarat. You see all these guys doing you like, well, damn. You really, really get an appreciation to watch a pro, watch them at their craft. Man, I watched Serena Williams. I saw Serena Williams and the semifinals. That's when the semifinals used to be played at night. And she was playing, she married David Lee.
Starting point is 01:04:52 What's her name? She's Danish. Man, Serena Williams was hitting the ball. It sounded like somebody hitting the baseball. them. Wozniacki, that's who, yes, the Great Dane. I said, oh my goodness. I mean, she was, hey, the sir,
Starting point is 01:05:13 and then she was cranking that forehand. Hey, Greg, got some power on you, man. I bet I feel bad. I ain't a lot, Joe, I felt bad. She got some power, don't you, I feel bad? She got some power, don't you man? What? Yeah. Look, I saw Serena when she was in a,
Starting point is 01:05:26 I'm talking about when she was physically at a peak. Yeah. Lord have the caps on her shoulders her arms her legs are yeah oh yeah man it's different and hey Joe hey hey yeah you really get an appreciation
Starting point is 01:05:43 Ocho so I can understand what you said to be there and to see them and even though those guys weren't messy or Renato or what we and Boppao those guys but just the reserves I was with the reserves I was going to get I was going to get You were going against them.
Starting point is 01:05:59 You were going against them. Yes, I'm going against them. They had me looking stupid. It had me, it had me looking stupid. And I'm thinking, I'm just coming off the season. I didn't have no injuries, no nicks, no knacks. Man, I'm going to go out here and act a fool. Man, I come out of the field.
Starting point is 01:06:15 Mordino laughing at me. Yeah. Now you know how people feel when they're standing on the sidelines and they see us going to, man, to my home are like, God, damn, boy, y'all are moving. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Yeah. Yeah. And the legs hurt. Yeah. Because you running fast and they're running fast and continue hands. Oh, man. Yeah. So you get to,
Starting point is 01:06:39 that's why I appreciate the greatness to play a sport and to be, to be at that level, Joe. Yeah. You know, the level that you had, Joe, and a whole lot of players. I mean, they're 5,000.
Starting point is 01:06:54 They ain't 5,000 players been better than Joe Johnson. Hello. Say it again. They might not be, they might not be, 500 players out of the 5,000. Hello. Because like we say. Hello.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Hey, hey, hey, hey. They do that damn top 100 because they got, what they got top 75 right now. Yeah. They're going to have to take it up, Ocho. Come on, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. I ain't now. I ain't, no.
Starting point is 01:07:17 I ain't. A lot of people get, hey, they're like, who's the underrated score? You know, T-Mack and Mello and Garnett. They say Joe Johnson. Yeah. Hey, that's the biggest compliment you can get from your peers, bro. I can't wait until we play. You know, guys who you don't battle with, guys who you didn't battle against.
Starting point is 01:07:39 I mean, come on, man. What you say, Ocho? What you just said? I thought I heard you say something by one. You know, I, what, what you? Yeah, yeah. Hey, baby, I'm going to whoop Joe ass, boy. Hey, you got to cheer at home, boy.
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