Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Bad Bunny BREAKS Super Bowl HALFTIME RECORD + Jay Glazer says Max Crosby is DONE with Raiders + Seahawks Uchenna Nwosu JOINS Nightcap + Vikings LOOKING for a VETERAN QB

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Bad Bunny having the most watched halftime performance of all time, Maxx Crosby told Tom Brady that he will retire before playing for t...he Raiders again, and Seattle Seahawk and Super Bowl Champion Uchenna Nwosu joins the show and much more! Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI...0:00 - Bad Bunny has most watched half time show of all time14:55 - Jay Glazer made it clear that Maxx Crosby is done with the Raiders26:57 - Super Bowl Champ Uchenna Nwosu joins the show42:02 - Vikings likely to add vet QB to roster (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:24 Please drink responsibly and be safe. We will be joined by champion Ochinawa Nuwsu. that name right. I've been practicing that thing all day, Ocho. Oceana, oh, Genu, a new woosu. But first, first, first, bad bunny. Bad, damn, I guess many people didn't boycott who we thought, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Bad Bunny delivered the most watch Super Bowl halftime show at all time. The show drew 135 million viewers, surpassing Kendrick's record. Rock Nation Super Bowl viewership since he's taken over. I guess that's 2020. He did $103 million in 2020. 96.7 in 2021.
Starting point is 00:07:10 103.4 in 22. 121. Brianna in 23. 123.4 in 24. Kendrick did 133.5 in 25. And coming over the top by almost 2 million views. Bad Bunny. Bonito.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Go ahead, don't you. Hey, well, one thing, one thing I can say is a lot of people welcome. and the percentage of people that didn't enjoy it, the percentage of people that didn't like it, the percentage of people that wrote think pieces that had huge dialogues on, on their displeasure with the halftime show and complaining about, oh, it was in Spanish. I didn't know what was going on. It's a very small percentage, it's a very small percentage. What people have to understand is that the NFL is trying to grow. They're trying to grow a consumer market outside of just the United States.
Starting point is 00:07:59 They want to grow globally. That is the only way growing globally that you continue to continue to. to push the boundaries, include cultural diversity. And I think they're doing a really good job at it. And if you think about it, we've given a different halftime performer almost to every different genre of music. So whatever you do at this point, I think people still will not be happy.
Starting point is 00:08:22 They're gonna always complain about something. You will never be able to please everybody. So I like the direction that the NFL is going with the halftime shows and touching each and different genre of music and giving them their opportunity to have that big stage. And I think his interview on Apple Music is the most watched interview on that format.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I think he did, he's 68 million and counting. But it's always funny, the people that boycott, but they didn't tell nobody to boycott them when they perform. I know a guy that's talking about, he had his own thing at another venue. But did you remember when he ain't nobody boycott? We ain't gonna get in that, oh cho.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Let's not, let's not do that, but you know what we're talking about. But listening at people, and they were talking about, we pay paid $5,000 a ticket and we paid this. And it's like, I come to see Benito. I ain't know they call him Benito. I ain't know Benito Santiago.
Starting point is 00:09:12 I didn't know that was his name. Bad money. But it's like we come to see Benito and they started speaking Spanish and they were so excited. Yeah, they had on their team gear. They had on the Seahawks and they had on the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Somebody, I think I saw somebody. His team wasn't he met it. He said, I came to see bad money. I came to see Benito. Right. So. Right, right, right. At some point, I mean, you're not, you're not going to please everybody.
Starting point is 00:09:37 When they had Kendrick, he wasn't broad enough. When they had Usher, he got old son. When they had Rihanna, where she showed up pregnant, they had Kendrick. I mean, excuse me, excuse me, they had Dr. Dre and Snoop and Mary Jay, you're not going to please. When you got almost 400 million people in the United States, you're going to offend someone. But you know why? Because people are looking for reasons to get offended. Oh, Joe, I don't like apples.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Okay, if I don't like apples, just because I like something, that don't mean I hate something else. If you like oranges, that don't mean you hate apples and bananas. That means you like oranges. You like mangoes. That don't mean you hate watermelon and honey, do. But people get so offended. They're looking for a reason to get offended.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Oh, this is an American sport. This is, okay. Broaden their horizons. You like American food, but you'll be tearing up. up some Mexican food you tell up Indian food you tell up Jamaican food yeah y'all need to stop this and stop looking for reasons to get offended right I said I ain't no one word I couldn't tell you what the song was but I was grooving and the big little effects and the production was over the top over the top I love how he played to his hair to jocho I love the guy
Starting point is 00:10:53 playing dominoes I love the sugar cane I loved the the uh the no cones I love I love the ladies in the nail salon getting the hair done I loved it. Um, even if you don't understand the words, um, you become one with the music. I'm moving. Sometimes you go to the club. Hey, sometimes you go to the club, Unk, you can't even hear what's being, you can't even hear what's being played, but you become one with the music.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It's easy to do. I think most of the people that work complaining saying, oh my goodness, I don't understand what he's saying. Okay, if you don't understand what he's saying, just go and flow with the beat. It's about having a rhythm. Maybe don't, maybe, hey, maybe you don't have rhythm. Maybe that's why they mad. Probably.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Because if you got rhythm, all you do is you catch the beat and become one with the music and have fun. That kind of music, it's about a vibe. You don't need to understand when you travel to the DR, when you travel to Spain, when you travel to Puerto Rico, when you travel to Brazil, you're not going to understand what they're saying. You're not going to understand the music. But you're not going to understand the words, but you become one with the music depending on where you are. And people need to understand what the NFL is trying to do globally, not just here. We wanted to be one of the best sports to watch outside of the U.S.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And we're competing with soccer, which is number one outside of the U.S. Well, soccer is the number one in the world because the Europeans play it and more countries play it. Yes, African nations, the European countries. Of course. Of course. They play soccer. Of course.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Really, they don't play a bear. And that's why basketball is so big globally because there's the Slovenians and the Serbians and they got so many different people. But when in football, every once in a while, Lachio, you get, like the gentleman we're going to bring on tonight. We'll get a few here and there that come from Cameroon or come from Nigeria, come from different countries, but not to the vast number that soccer, not to the vast number.
Starting point is 00:12:40 That's why baseball. They got the Puerto Ricans and they got the Dominicans and they got the, you know, the Nicaraguan's and they got the Japanese with Shohei and these others. So, and the Panama. I look, I've stopped, look, I've stopped looking for things to get a feel. for unless you're speaking directly to me. Mm-hmm. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah. I mean, some people miserable. Yeah. There's nothing you could do about it. Some people are miserable and you have to allow them to live their miserable lives where nothing anyone else does is going to make them happy. They're going to find something wrong. They're going to nitpick at something and it's unfortunate. That's some of the times that we're in now. We're in 2026, you know, when we talk about culture diversity and everyone having to stop it. They don't want it. They don't stop it. They don't Don't want cultural diversity.
Starting point is 00:13:31 They don't. They want what they want. They want them to stay here. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. And no one else gets the opportunity. You should supersede yours. What I want is supersede yours. So it ain't no diversity. I mean, look, uh, and somehow if somebody gets the job,
Starting point is 00:13:51 oh, they are D, uh, DEI hire. No one has benefited more from D.EI than white women in America. but we ain't going to have that discussion we're not going to have a real discussion hey we can't make it a political show no we we can't we can't do that but they know we got we got to keep we got to keep but they know yeah in colleges in title nine you they know affirmative action who's benefited the most but y'all ain't ready to have that real conversation but one day we will yeah but it's it's look uh uh uh uh You know, the hammer and the nail can never be a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Wait a minute. Take your time. I know something good coming. Take your time. The nail and the hammer, how can they go back and forth? We know how it's going to end. The tree will never have a great relationship with an axe. Come on.
Starting point is 00:14:57 We go move it along, but they don't. Hey. Y'all want to, y'all want to. How does the gazelle get down and have a conversation with the lion? Or the cheese. We should we should be able to sit down really okay okay okay well you just you just pull some gems out of nowhere you hear me yeah let me get let me get let me get a let me get a we're gonna have a real we're gonna have a real
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Starting point is 00:18:00 I'm feeling good. I got to tell you how to treat me, how to talk to me. Ah, now I'm good. Last week, Jake Laser made it clear that Max Crosby is done with the Raiders. Now Jason Lake and four reports that an unnamed general manager claims that Crosby has directly communicated his wishes to minority owner Tom Brady. He told Tom Brady he will never play for the Raiders again. The unnamed GM said, that's a fact.
Starting point is 00:18:26 He told him he'll retire before. he ever played for them again, but I'm not sure they're actually going to trade him. Miles Garrett said the same thing last year, and we know how that ended up. Ocho, how do you see this situation unfolding? Oh, man, understanding, understanding what Max Crosby means to the Las Vegas Raiders, I'm not sure if things can be rectified at this point. Most of the time when the players get to this point like this where he feels I really can't do it anymore, there might be some thing going on behind the scenes internally that we don't
Starting point is 00:18:56 know about, especially for Matt Crosy. to get to the point to where he is now, to even let someone outside that building know that I would never play here again, especially if those words have been echoed to that of the greatest of all time, Tom Brady. He's not really playing, especially someone like Max Crosby, who wants an opportunity to win and understanding that being at the Las Vegas Raiders, he's not going to have an opportunity to win. Hoping for a move similar to that of Dexter Lawrence in general, where he can go to a contender
Starting point is 00:19:24 and hope that things turn out or pan out the way they should, where he can contribute on and on his side of the ball on defense, he can be an asset to so many different teams that are a piece or two away from actually contending and have a chance of reaching that end goal out there in LA. Well, the difference is that D. Law was an unrestricted free agent. So he chose where he wanted to go.
Starting point is 00:19:44 Max Crosby, unfortunately, is under contract for another three years, three, four years. I'm not sure how long, how long, Chad, his contract is for. But he's not in that situation. And so probably we're going to want get him out if they are to trade him the conversations that they're having oh cho is that we want to get him out of the afc and we want to get the most bang for our buck now who's going to give us
Starting point is 00:20:07 the most compensation now i understand that sometimes when you have a relationship a good relationship with a team they'll work to send you to a place maybe to your heart desire but i'm not so sure that's going to be the case with this situation he's one of your better players he's if you know i work with Jason at CBS also. He's made, if that's true, and, and, uh, Jay Glazer came on I show last year and said, last week and said Max was, was,
Starting point is 00:20:35 was done with the Raiders. Yeah. Two guys I know pretty well. I know Jason a little better because I work with him for a number of years. If that's the case, the likelihood of them working with him to send them to his ideal setting,
Starting point is 00:20:50 probably not going to happen, Ocho. But I do say, there's, they're going to trade him. They're going to put him in the NFC. because I ain't really trying to see this man in the AFC and I'm damn sure not going to trade it within my division. That's an absolute no-no. Right. Even though some teams, you know, Kansas City would be more than
Starting point is 00:21:06 glad to trade compensation to get him. But I don't see that happening. With that being said, Ocho, because he doesn't have, he's not unrestricted and he doesn't have a choice in the matter of where he goes, it's just hard. He has, he signed a three-year, um, um,
Starting point is 00:21:26 $160 million contract extension in March of 25. So he got some years on that contract, Ocho. So I don't. Yeah, I mean, he does, but you have to understand his value. You have to understand his value, especially with Kubei coming over, understanding that there are so many pieces, there's so many missing holes, so many questions that need answers on that Las Vegas Raiders team,
Starting point is 00:21:50 that I don't think he will have a problem, understanding the value that is Mack and allowing him to go elsewhere. even if it's to an AFC team, what pieces can I get for someone who is as valuable as him at the position and being able to continue to build for the future? If I couldn't win with you, then I have no problem winning without you
Starting point is 00:22:09 and I'll get as much as I can. I'll lose with you. I can lose without you. I get what you're saying. But I think the thing is normally, yeah, teams that are most equipped to give up the most are teams, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:24 and he doesn't want to go from a losing team to a losing situation, but I believe the Philadelphia Eagles will have something on the table. The Chicago Bears will put something on the table. I don't know, I don't know, considering that they just gave Aiden Hutchinson that deal,
Starting point is 00:22:41 Jack Campbell's, I don't know if they got Jack Campbell done this last offseason or they're going to get him done this offseason. You know, they got money tied up in Joseph. So they got, and, you know, oh, Jemir Gibbs is due a contract. Oh, yeah. You took care of Alman Ra,
Starting point is 00:22:55 you took care of Pernet. You took care of Jerry golf. You took care of J-M-O. You took care of J-M-O. So, yeah. But I think me, I think the Bears, I think Philly, would have no problem
Starting point is 00:23:08 giving up a first and a third and maybe a third next year because he's that good. He's a game-altering player and they don't come around very often. And I promise you, there's no one in the draft that's as good as Matt Crobber. And I don't know who they have.
Starting point is 00:23:25 I don't know how high, who's rated where on the defensive side of football, but I guarantee you there's not a guy coming out in the draft that's better than Max Crosby will be next year in 26. Not even close. Coming out of the draft. I mean, please. I mean, no disrespect to those coming out of the draft,
Starting point is 00:23:40 but there was nothing like Mac Crosby based on the resume that he's, you know, done so far in the other. Can you imagine Matt Crosby with a star on his helmet? Oh, my God. Woo! Can you imagine Max Crosby with a star on his helmet? No. I mean, with him.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Come on, man. He's a game change. I mean, he changes. He's going to alter wherever defense he goes. And the more talent you have around him, the better he's going to be. You put him in Philly. Yep. You put him in Chicago or you put him on the Dallas.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Hmm. The Raven, could the Ravens put a package together? Now we're talking. Because they need a game change. Yeah. And they haven't had a game change in a while. Hey, listen, I know you haven't said it. one thing we haven't had either over there in the 513,
Starting point is 00:24:29 over there in Cincinnati, right across, right over the river. We haven't had a game changer. Do I see them having the money to be able to take care of a Mac Crosby, understanding how much we need on the defensive end as well? We need some pieces at one level. I mean, either we're going to get one at the first level or the third level, maybe at the second level and the first level. But we need two impact players that can make a difference over there on our team as well.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Now that the season is done, And you kind of look at each team and you can see what teams need going forward, especially those that already have a quarterback in place to actually give you a chance. Most of the time, those answers are going to be impact players on defense, mostly the officer line if you already have a quarterback or impact receiver. Buffalo. Can Buffalo put a package together? That's not fair.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Because I think the thing, at the end of the day, he wants to win. So who's close to winning? And who has a quarterback, the situation that quarterback is stable enough that's conducive to give him a chance to win 26, 27, 28 until his contract's up. You look at Philly. Obviously, they just won the Super Bowl last year, so they're equipped. You look at Chicago, got to the division around this. They're a young, up-and-coming team. I think they're a piece of way defensively.
Starting point is 00:25:51 You mentioned the Cowboys. Buffalo quarterback situation. Cincinnati quarterback situation. Baltimore, quarterback situation. So I think there are some places that have a quarterback in place, have a team that he's going to instantaneously make that defense better. So just imagine what a team can play with a lead. So that's what was so impressive about Miles Garrett.
Starting point is 00:26:17 There are very few times that his team had to leave. He got 23 sacks and 85% of the time, they were down. And he put them numbers like that. They're losing by double digits, and he's still getting three, four, five sacks in a game. So imagine if they're in a situation where they play with a lead, and he can just go hunt the quarterback. Just go, yeah. But definitely Max Crosby is going to make somewhat, if they trade him,
Starting point is 00:26:44 and we're speaking hypothetically, because we've heard two insiders say that Max Crosby is not going to be playing for the ravers. We hear Jason Luckamore says that he's talked to a general manager and that he relayed this message to minority owner Tom Brady. He's done with y'all. He didn't take kindly to being benchy. Like, I've been playing with this banging up to you all year. Now all of a sudden, y'all want me to sit out?
Starting point is 00:27:07 Yeah. Don't worry about it. I can think of something, too. I'll sit out from y'all for the next 10 years. Yeah, I can think of something too. And obviously, them contending him might be a sign. It might be a sign to him. Listen, we don't want you to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:27:21 We want you to sit down. We want you to heal up to make sure that, trade value we're going to give you what you want you requested it we're going to give you what you won't you stay out i don't want to get we don't want to get yourself hurt because we want to get as much as we can back for you i Jacksonville don't don't worry about yeah oh that's a good one that's a good one especially with the way they plan now they get that Ferrari coming out the garage after being down for a little bit with Trevor Lawrence playing really really good really good football right now. I like that. I like that, especially on that defense. That's a good one.
Starting point is 00:27:59 And so he's going to be looking to go. Like I said, he's probably going to go to one of the teams that we mentioned. The question is who's just going to give us the most compensation? Because that's what they need. They need draft picks. They need draft capital. They need to build this team. You look at Seattle, how they built their team. A lot of drafted players. Yeah, you got to go get a Leonard Williams. Yeah, you got to get a D law to come over in free agency, but you drafted Spoon. You drafted Wolin. Yeah, Julian Love came over in free agency. You get lucky. You got really, really lucky with Sam Darnel because normally guys that win 14 games, the other team is not letting them go. It's just not. You drafted a JSCN. You look at the offensive line
Starting point is 00:28:43 that they have. They drafted a K-9. So sometimes you've got to be a little luck. But I think the thing is that there are seven or eight teams out there that does have the draft capital to I think to appease the Raiders and I think it appease Max Crosby as well because I mean selfish is with me I do like when when great players get an opportunity to compete and see them see them on the highest level. Just like basketball players. I mean, you want to see a LeBron. You want to see Katie. You want to see Steph compete on the highest level. not be mired in meteorocrity.
Starting point is 00:29:23 So. Mm-hmm. Or being too loyal to stay at one place for a very long time. Well, that was Kevin Garnett. He was loyal to the soul until he realized that, man, I ain't winning nothing. Dame, I think that happened to Dame. Game, yeah, yeah. Staying in Portland, you know, a little too long.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So I think the Raiders, look, they got the number one pick in the draft, though, Joe. Many believe they're going to go for a quarterback. They believe it's going to be Mendoza. It's hard to argue that. Like I said, they're not a handful of, but a handful of quarterbacks that's, you know, I think that are game changers,
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Starting point is 00:31:55 from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the Iheart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. All right. We got a very, very special guest joining us. He had a pick six, took it to the house. Ochitawa Nwosu.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Did I get it right? You got it right. I've been trying to say this thing all this. Because I'm like, hold on. I wasn't at the end and silent. Did I have to go back and listen to the car? I listen to the TV copy when Mike Jericho on the call, but he said the first name so damn fast.
Starting point is 00:32:30 I'm like, well, damn, I get it in Nuwusu, but what's the first name? So, Achinawa, the woosu. So, go ahead, Joe. Hey, Ung, you won before. You won before. So I need to take this moment so I can get a better understanding of what it feels like. Well, Chinna, you finally won a Super Bowl. Unk, you won multiple Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:32:48 So you know what that feeling is already like. You need to let me. live vicaracy through you and give me an explanation. We all come from different backgrounds. We all got to our end goal in different ways. What does it finally feel like to understand all the work you put in whenever you started playing football? You reach the promised land, the plateau, the highest of the mall, the biggest game, and you finally won't tell me what that feels like as if I'm a little kid because I didn't play 12, 13 some years, but I've never ever had the opportunity to have that feeling that you haven't right now.
Starting point is 00:33:22 So just just give it to me raw and up. My bad. Oh, yeah, yeah. My bad, pause. Just, hey, hey, let's, we're going to rewind that. We're going to rewind that. Okay, I got it. I got it.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I got it. My bad, my bad. Just give it, give it to me. Give it to it straight. Straight, yeah, there you go. That's a good one. My bad. Well, to be honest with you, man, like, honestly, I'm not feeling how I thought I was going to feel
Starting point is 00:33:49 if I'm being honest with you. Really? Yeah, it's like. I don't know, the coaches have us wired in a way to where like every game is just like another game. So we're going out there and play, that's truly how it felt. Like it was just another game to us.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Like, we expect to win. We expect to go into every match. Like, you know, we're going to dominate these guys and, you know, it was all said and done. It's like, okay, like, what's next? You know, we've got another game. That's just how it felt. But I'm sure, like, once I see that really, yeah, yeah. But right now, I don't know. I just don't feel like how I thought
Starting point is 00:34:20 I would feel. I don't know. It's crazy. Yeah, that's funny. I mean, you're not the first guy that I've heard say that. But I think the thing for me is that everything as an individual, like, okay, I want to make the pro bowl. Oh, I want to lead the team. I want to lead the league. I want to be an all pro. That's an individual goal.
Starting point is 00:34:37 But only one team. You know, there are four guys that make the pro bowl for a wide receiver. There are three defensive linemen that make the pro bowl as a D lineman. But there can only be one Super Bowl champ. That means for the year, you get the basket all the goals. glory. And you mentioned you said something very interesting. You like, the coach has us wired that we take one game at a time
Starting point is 00:34:58 and you're like, okay, what's next? But this was the culmination. So going into the week, you're like, okay, you're watching them on tape because the difference is like, you know, you play a regular season game, you watch four games. You watch the last four games. This team played. But when you watch this team, you watch everything.
Starting point is 00:35:14 You go back from week one, you go to the playoffs. They sprinkled a little preseason in there. And so you guys were locked in. You guys were locked in from the jump. I mean, I'm going to throw that last quarter out because y'all was in,
Starting point is 00:35:27 and y'all, y'all like, okay, let's not get reckless to do anything like that, and they got some of the cheap yardage. He threw for the most yards in a single quarter and anybody in the history of the game, and the game was a blowout. So why, how were you guys so able to get locked in and just basically have a bead on everything they were doing?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Man, shout out to Coach Mike, man. He's like a nerd when it comes to his football stuff. Man, he's in the lab, man. He's studying hard. He's making sure we're in the right, you know, the right calls. He's preparing. He's got assistant coaches, you know, making sure we know what's going on. We're on the game plan.
Starting point is 00:36:00 We study and every day. We're watching film. We have about two, three, four meetings a day. We just so locked in. We're just communicating and we're talking. And just overall, just the whole team is just buying into what was going on. And we realized what was at stake? It was a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:36:12 So everybody was just locked in, man. We just had a mission and one goal we accomplished it. Yeah. Hey, with that goal to accomplish, did you expect to dominate the game the way you dominated it defensively because defensively you guys won that game obviously offensive with kenneth walker keeping that balance where you need to throw you through but because you ran the ball so well simply you were able to control most of the game defensively you watch obviously you're going in you watch film you see how the Patriots look you saw how they look in the playoff
Starting point is 00:36:38 you see how they looked in the regular season and you take bits and pieces of what you're going to get based on their tendencies dude bro you dominate the whole game to the point where some people are saying the game was a snooze fest not understanding no this is this is a defensive game The defenses are control the game. Yeah, they got a great defense over there. They got a lot of players over there. Their DB, number zero, he was playing phenomenal. Yeah, Milton Williams, they made plays.
Starting point is 00:37:03 Number 33 Jennings, he made plays. They was just making plays. But we knew, we kind of knew going into this week that, you know, we wanted to show that he was going to be the best defense in the world, which we did. And we had our mindset made up that we're not going to let these guys come out here and, you know, do what they did to all those other teams. We know we get after Drake May.
Starting point is 00:37:21 We kill their end. which is him, they got nothing left. And we made sure we made that happen. When I look at you guys on defense, you're not that complex. Y'all play quarter coverage. You keep the safety back. And you say, you're not running the football.
Starting point is 00:37:35 And so we won't have to drop a safety down. Because when I look, yeah, you show something now. Y'all brought a lot of slot bliss. Spoon, you know what to see Spoon and coverage. Y'all saw something on tape because y'all brought spoon a little bit more than I'm used to see them. Now, man, normally that's a, worry. He normally comes on.
Starting point is 00:37:54 But this time, he was back and Spoon was coming. What did y'all see the like, you know what? We can catch him with the slot. Yeah, you just got to split it up. You know, I'm sure they go back and they do their study. They see we bring Nick a lot with a lot of pressures. So Mike said, you know, guess what? We're going to bring
Starting point is 00:38:10 Spoon. Spoon is a great bliss. He quit. He's fast. Spoon is fast, man. He can make Lyme and Ms. He can juke and thin. He can just get to the quarterback in a hurry. Same thing with Nick. So Mike just saw that. He switched it up. Nick's a great blitzer, but we switch it up with the spoon and he may play it.
Starting point is 00:38:27 He timed those blitzes perfect because when he's got, I mean, he hit it on a dead run every time when they snapped the ball, he was on a dead run. And it's hard because like you said, they so small, big lima used to blocking guys like yourself. And so when you get a DB and he doing all this right here, they got no chance. They got no chance.
Starting point is 00:38:46 So. Hey, one thing I want to say, which isn't it, did coach? without you being disrespectful to your opponents, did coach most of the time you're going to a game plan, you're going to a game. Most of the time you want to recognize who the fish is and you draw a circle around the fish's head.
Starting point is 00:39:03 The fish is the weak league. Obviously you have five people in the officer line, but there's always one week link. Based on the game we saw, it was three fish and it started from the center going all the way to the left. Was that address before the game started based on what you saw from their officer line played throughout the week? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:39:20 But instead of fish, we call it tilapia. So we knew from the center all the way to their left or right. You know, those two rookies, we got to take advantage of those. Right, okay. We're down the road, there'll be, you know, good players that will develop. But going into this game, we couldn't let that slide. We have to get out there. And the thing when you get a push, you don't let him off the hook.
Starting point is 00:39:40 And I saw because they ended up putting D. Law. D. Law normally rushes on the office office is right side, the defensive left side. They're like D. Law said, let me get somebody is, man. You all over there eating and don't even bite me. Let me get a piece of this young fellow. Yeah. When Spoon came on that blitz
Starting point is 00:39:57 and you were right there because they made the mistake because Spoon got through. The guy blocked you and Spoon just closed so quick because he was getting ready to throw and you were Johnny on the spot. So when you see Spoon hit his arm and the ball's up in there, what's going through your mind? Man, I just reacted.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Honestly, I didn't even think. I just caught the ball and just took off running. look left and right, hope I ain't get caught on DB back. That's why my soul was good. I was out of there. Yeah. I mean, you got to play. Hey, did it feel like you was running?
Starting point is 00:40:30 Oh, I'm going to say, did it feel like you was running in slow motion? Like you're running in a quicksand, even though nobody was around you? Yeah, it's weird because I was my first time like being that position, like catching up. Like, you were receiving. Right. You got to do that all the time. But me, I'm like, oh, okay, this is how it is. So let me just go ahead and not fall, run out of bounds.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Let me not do something. May you have no celebration set up you? I mean, you've got to have a celebration. Like, man, if I get a scoop and score, I get a pick six, I get something, I got to do something. You ain't have nothing playing? Well, being from Los Angeles, I usually hit my squabble. I'm sure you guys heard that before the squad.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These things were just moving so fast. And I was like, man, let me just celebrate with my teammates and just get on because we got to go back on defense again. Right. You guys, look, I was thinking like, man, they might not score. This might be a situation.
Starting point is 00:41:20 So, because first half, nothing. I mean, basically through three quarters. And then did it dawn on you at any point in time? So you know what? Man, we might shut these guys out. Hey, guys, man, let's see if we can push this shut out. Yeah. That's exactly what we were saying on sidelines.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Like, yo, keep that goose egg up there. Don't let them score. Don't let them score. You know, they was able to move down the field. They got that bomb to Mac, to Mac Hollins. And they got that scramble pass to Stevenson coming out in the goal line area. But we tried, man.
Starting point is 00:41:50 We really tried to pitch that shut out. That would have been a great accomplishment in the Super Bowl. Yeah. Plus, when you think about Seattle, obviously the Legion of Boone. You know, you got Sherm and you got Earl Thomas and you got those guys B-wags and you got that. Yeah. But you guys are establishing a Danny on your own.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Yeah, everybody's going to remember a historic defense. They will get remembered. But you started something on your guys on. You call you guys up. What's this MOB? The dark side. The dark side. Yeah. Dark side. I'm a part of that.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah. Yeah. That's just something that we just try to bring, you know, our own identity. Of course, we respect the Legion of Boom and what they've done. So we've kind of try to, you know, integrate our own way of life, our own thing, MOP, which stands for mission over BS. It's something I believe there's other team came up with. And it's something that stuck. It's like our creed. It's something that we live by. And the dark side is just something that the defense is just incorporated and something we just built on. I look at you guys, get Ernest Jones.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Ernest Jones was traded like twice in a single season. You get Big Leonard Williams. Yourself, you come over from the Chargers. When you look at this team and how you guys, D-Law came over in Free Agency, and you look at how this team is constructed, you guys are built. You guys are built.
Starting point is 00:43:09 That it doesn't guarantee you because, you know, every year is different because we said the same thing about the Eagles, that the Eagles are going to be back, and boy, look out there, blah, yada, yada. it's going to be different because everybody's going to break your guys down and it's like, okay, look, they like to keep them safety back. We've got to run the football. So it's going to be a different year.
Starting point is 00:43:26 But the guy, the way you're constructed, you guys are built the land. You got a young football team. You got a hungry coach. And I think you got a group of hungry young men. What's your mindset going into the offseason? Because I'm sure you need some time away. It's been a grind for five months, six months. It's been a grind.
Starting point is 00:43:43 You want to get away from it. But when will you start getting him back into it? And when will you start like, okay, start getting into the group, Chad, start talking to guys. Okay, what's the plan for next season? Yeah, like you said, you definitely want to get away. It's been a long season. This is my first time playing this long. Everybody's first time really playing this long, except for a couple guys, Coop and EJ.
Starting point is 00:44:04 But you definitely relax, get our bodies right. And it starts with OTAs because that's where it started for us last year. You know, we made up that identity that we wanted to start in OTAs and build who we are, start that brotherhood, that creed, that togetherness. that camaraderie that we build all-stars in OTAs, off-season workouts, everybody's showing up,
Starting point is 00:44:21 being there for each other. And that's where we start to build this thing for next year. He had an unbelievable game. Sack, pick, took it to the house, got so excited if you got a celebration. The World Champion of Seattle Seahawks
Starting point is 00:44:39 for Chino, Nuwosu. Enjoy it. That ring is going to be something crazy because it seems like every year the goal is the top from the previous year. You saw what the Eagles look back I'm sure Jason Beverly Hills is on speed down because I know the thing, hey, y'all ring might be this side right.
Starting point is 00:44:57 It might be, I don't know if you're going to be able to lift your hand to hold that big old piece of rock. I got a question, though. Yeah. Yellow gold or white diamonds? White, white, white. It's clean. It's something about that white.
Starting point is 00:45:13 It's something about that white gold, man. Okay. We was deciding that as the leaders on the team what we should go with. but I'm gonna go by y'all. Yeah, that white gonna be beautiful. Listen, I never wanna ring. As someone that's somewhat of a jewelry connoisseur, it's gonna, it's gonna stand out.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Well, congratulations, man, and enjoy it. If you get an opportunity, well, your guys are probably, you guys are back in Seattle, not right? Yep, yeah, got back this morning. Did you have an exit? Did you have an exit today or is it tomorrow? Tomorrow. Okay, all right, if you get an opportunity
Starting point is 00:45:46 to see EJ, tell them to come back and join us, He told us he went the bowl, he's going to come back. So we expect him to come back. Yeah. For sure. I'll let them out. I appreciate it back. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Great job. Great season. Continue success, my brother. Thanks, fellas. I appreciate you. Hey, you know what I think, you know, I think a lot of people don't realize is, is you look at some of the, some of the sports figures that we've had on the show or some of the people that we have in the show in general.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You understand, do you see, if you do your homework chat, see the luck and the success that everyone has come on. show has had in their respective crafts and what it. I'm not saying it's because they came on nightcap. I'm just saying maybe it's some type of coincidence and I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but everyone that comes in the show has some type of success and whatever it is that they're doing in life. And I just find that like, you know, I think everybody came on.
Starting point is 00:46:38 I think the team at least made the playoffs. Yeah, yeah. Except I had it work. Except Kansas City. Thornton came on and didn't make the playoffs. But you look at Jalen Johnson and the, uh, what you call them? They made the playoff, the Bears.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Leonard Williams came on, E.J. came on. The guy that plays opposite of birds from the Rams, he came on. So, yeah, you come on. No guarantee, but there's a great probability in all likelihood. Yeah, yeah. Oh, so the Vikings are expected to add a veteran quarterback to the roster, and rumors are, first cousins. Kirk Cousins could be back in Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:47:16 The Falcons are expected to cut cousins before the new league year begins in March. Ocho, do you want to see Cousins back in Minnesota? I think it would be dope. I think it would be great for Justin Jefferson, huh? Obviously, I had appearance with Justin Jefferson with Lowe's in San Francisco before I got home and the news had already broke. The rumors had already broke a run across the ticker on ESPN about them, the Falcons
Starting point is 00:47:43 releasing Kirk Cousins at some point. And I asked JJ, how would you feel about that? Listen, the more people in the quarterback room, the merrier. You know, having that better than presence would be good. Man, that man, he's going to be JJ and McCarthy out. I mean, obviously, I know that because we know what Justin Jefferson was able to do with Kirk Cousins. We know Kirk Cousins at the helm at that quarterback position who already knows that offense. You know what the number is going to look like during the regular season.
Starting point is 00:48:10 You know, you know what they're going to look like. He might feel a lot on the pro season, but JJ going to have 115 catches, 16, 17. About 1,600. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. So with him, with JJ understanding that and really being PC with his answer to me, he was cheering for both quarterbacks. And if Kirk Cousins has the opportunity to come back, listen, more quarterbacks in the quarterback room, the better for us as a team collectively.
Starting point is 00:48:37 But, I mean, I think it's cool. I think it makes the most sense. It's an offense that Kirk is familiar with. You saying he might be JJ McCarthy out? Let's say he doesn't be JJ McCarthy out. It's a good veteran presence to have in that locker room. And if, if JJ starts playing bad, they won't have any problem.
Starting point is 00:48:55 They won't have any issues, you know, making that switch and making that change at any point. If they feel they have an opportunity to contend and make the playoffs. I believe that's one of the reasons they moved on from Darnell. They know Darnell would beat him out. Oh, Joe, if I bring a veteran in, Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:12 If I bring a veteran in, I got to bring one that can't win the job. Yeah. If I bring a veteran in, Ocho, and he good. I didn't, I did, Ocho, I didn't like this signing from Atlanta from day one. I didn't. No. And I said it. I said, Ocho, the best.
Starting point is 00:49:33 They need a security blanket. I'm saying for Atlanta. Oh. What they had, what they had to sign him for coming off that injury. I said the best you could possibly hope for. You hoping that the man gives you two years. But what if you only. gives you one.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And then you go draft the quarterback that high. You drafted a quarterback that already had multiple injuries. It didn't make a whole lot of sense. And Matt Ryan, he was non-committal to Pennix Jr. Like, well, you know, hey, we know I see him up there all the time. I'm in the building often. And, and, and, and I know he's working hard. That wasn't no commitment.
Starting point is 00:50:16 That didn't know yet he's our quarterback. You also have to understand. Matt Ryan knows what you need. Matt Ryan knows what you need. He's an evaluator of talent. He knows what it's supposed to look like. And he knows what you need to get over the hump. Obviously not winning a Super Bowl, but going to one.
Starting point is 00:50:33 Would he have a 283 lead? All they had to do was run the football. Run the ball. Yeah, that wasn't his fault. It wasn't much he could do in that situation. Because if he wouldn't call him plays. If I got a 283 lead, there is no way in hell. the team that has three have more rush attempts
Starting point is 00:50:52 in the second half than me. Me, yeah. Let that sink in. The team that's losing 283 got more rush attempts than the team win in 283. Make it make sense. That's crazy. But I tell you what, who didn't make that mistake?
Starting point is 00:51:05 Clint Kubiak can't make that mistake, did it? I don't give a damn view. Hey, I understand. I'm sorry, hey, K9, I'm sorry you lost three yards, but we're going to hand it to you again. Yeah. And get that three back in some. Because I've got to because that's time.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. Because you throw it in incomplete, it stops the clock. Yeah. If I run the ball, if I get one first down, I'm going to take damn to three minutes off the clock with one first down. Don't let me get two or three. And that's all they needed to do. What, hey, that happened many, many years ago.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But yeah, I definitely think the Vikings, the Vikings are kicking themselves. saw Sam Darnel. Now that's not to say Sam Darnel would have led them. I'm not saying that, but Sam Darnel was better than what you had. You make the, I believe you make the playoffs with Sam Darnel. And now with that, you take Sam Darnel away from the Seahawks. Now they've got to go in a different direction. Yeah. So not only do I build, I build myself up, Ocho, I weaken an opponent. Because at the end of the day, isn't that what I'm trying to do? Yes, I'm trying to, I'm trying to win. It's I'm in court.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Yes, I'm trying to make a very compelling argument from my client, but I'm also trying to punch holes in the prosecution or the defense. Right. So if I can do two things, I'm cool. I got it. Yeah. You don't. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:52:37 You know what? I think I'm not saying they would have won a Super Bowl, but I think offensively that defense over there in Minnesota was good enough, especially with Brian Flores. calling that defense. He didn't have the Legion of Boom. He didn't have the dark side, similar to that of the Seattle Seahawks
Starting point is 00:52:57 and the defense they have. But the pieces that he did have, he always put him in the right place. Yeah, but they could get after the quarterback. No, they weren't as formidable as the Seahawks, but with a different quarterback. Now maybe they're playing more. I mean, you think about it.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Sam, Donald, Ty, for the league, league, and interceptions. I mean, for turnovers. Yeah. So imagine if they didn't have, to defend as much as they had to defend. Had to. Yeah. You saw them yesterday. You saw them in the postseason.
Starting point is 00:53:25 I think they're the first team in postseason history to go the entire postseason, a minimum of three games and not turn the ball over. Hey. And that was the issue. That's all we wanted to know, though. Can he do it? Can he keep the ball out of the other teams hand in the postseason? That's my only concern.
Starting point is 00:53:42 They will have an opportunity to win. They got it. Look, there are a handful of teams. I look at Houston. I look at Seattle and I look at the Broncos. They had defenses that could win you a game. All I need the offense not to do is F it up. You go back and look at Houston.
Starting point is 00:54:03 What did the office do in New England? F it up. What did the offense for the Broncos do in Denver? F F F it up. Seattle's offense didn't munk it up for the defense. And they're the world champ for a reason. Yeah. And that's what you have.
Starting point is 00:54:18 That's complimentary football. They didn't put the ball on the ground. They didn't give, they didn't give, put their defense in harm's way Ocho, giving them short fields. They didn't give scoop and scores, pick sixes. And okay, good luck driving the ball 75, 80 yards on this defense. You might get one, but if you think you about to make a living, going 12, 13 plays, taking seven, eight minutes off the clock, okay, let me know how to work out for you at the end of the game. Not happening.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Not against that defense. No, it's not. but I can see cousins going back I don't know where he's going to live I don't know I mean I'm assuming he's from Michigan he went to Michigan State so I'm assuming he's from somewhere Michigan to Midwest he seems more of a Minnesota
Starting point is 00:55:09 Michigan type of guy as opposed to Atlanta type of a guy but I understand Minnesota moving on he tore the Achilles Ocho I can't I mean, Atlanta basically gave $50 million coming off on the tour. A guy that's non-mobile that's coming off an Achilles injury. No. Hey, hold on.
Starting point is 00:55:33 And now he's a year removed from that. Another year removed from that. So he'll be that, he'll be that much better. He's familiar. He spent, what, three, four years in that system with Kevin O'Connor. So he knows it. You know, just unlearned, you know, the two years that he was in Atlanta and learned that, that won't take long.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Because I remember when I went to Baltimore, having to learn a new system. When I got back to Denver, Ocho, in like three of, two or three days, I was good. I was absolutely good. But Minnesota, they can use a veteran, you said it, use a veteran presence,
Starting point is 00:56:06 but at the end of the day, J.J.J. McCarthy's going to have to become something, Ocho, because you gave him a guy. It's not like, Ocho, he got four million dollars in incentives. Ocho, you could have put that, Minnesota could have gave those same incentives. Damn.
Starting point is 00:56:24 You could have gave him those same incentive. If Sam Darnel is 33, maybe I can get. Sam Darnel probably only like 26, 27. Yeah. I didn't think they didn't want to keep him on because they knew he wasn't going to beat, he wasn't going to beat Sam out. It wasn't going to make no sense. It wasn't going to make no sense, especially him coming off the season he just had.
Starting point is 00:56:48 No, let's go ahead and get rid of him. Let's go ahead and get rid of him. let J.J. McCarthy take the hand. When that's about looking on his shoulder. You ain't going to be looking on your shoulder? Because what you call them? Sam Darno is going to be in front of you. You look over your shoulder with something behind you.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Sam's going to be in front. That man won 14 games, Coach. Hell, I think he went to the Pro Bowl last year. Sam's 28. So, hell of up. How old JJ McCarthy? J.J. McCarthy probably 24. So we'll see how this thing plays out.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Yeah. Hey, this is what they're all season for. They're going to be a lot of moving and shaking, Ocho. I think we're going to have a season where a lot of turnover. Yeah. JJ is 23. Damn, that's it? You know, he came out early.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Oh, that's right. Godly. He's going into his third year, right? That's crazy. Yeah. I mean, if you don't red shirt, yeah, you're going to come out at 21, 22. because I didn't red shirt, so I got drafted at 21, turn 22 in June. If you red shirt, you're going to probably be 23.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Now, if you red shirt and still come out, or you know what I'm saying, sometimes you red shirt and come out as a sophomore, you know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. So we'll see how that plays out for them. But the Minnesota, boy, they blew that one. And the winner of the IHeart Podcast Award is, You can decide who takes home the 26 IHeart Podcast Awards, podcast of the year by voting at IHeartPodcastawards.com
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