Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bama beatdown, Colorado shines, Georgia Tech upsets Miami

Episode Date: November 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Jalen Milroe and  #11 Alabama Crimson tide 42-13 beatdown on #15 LSU in an SEC showdown. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Deion “Coach Prime” ...Sanders, Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter and #20 Colorado Buffaloes 41-27 win against the Texas Tech Red Raiders, Georgia Tech upsets Cam Ward and the #4 Miami Hurricanes and much more!03:13 - Show start03:38 - Intro05:20 - Bamma beats down LSU tigers12:30 - CU beats TT50:00 - Ole Miss beats GA54:17 - GT upsets Miami01:01:30 - Quin Ewers/Texas beat Fla(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:06:32 Please make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Ocho, I mentioned it earlier, the number 11 Alabama Crimson Tide goes into Death Valley, beat down the number 15 LSU Tigers by the score of 42 to 14. Jalen Milro was sensational last night, last night, tonight. He did not put the ball in harm's way and that's what they're gonna have to do in order for them to go to the place that they want to go, which is the SEC Championship. Got their work cut out for them because they have two losses and there are a lot of
Starting point is 00:07:01 teams that only have one loss. So they got to hope, they got to continue to win and then hope somebody else knocks off a Tennessee or Texas A and M and some of these other schools that have only one loss. Jaylen Melrose throwing the ball tonight was 12 of 18, 109 yards. But that's not where he did his damage. 12 carries, a buck 85 for touchdown. And the last rushing touchdown, of 72 yarder was basically the straw that broke the Campbell's back but I don't think no one really thought
Starting point is 00:07:28 after watching this game for as long as they did they thought LSU was ever gonna come back and win this game 48 rushes 311 yards six touchdowns for Alabama and a very opportunistic defense Ocho Alabama did a great job of when of, of when they got close, when LSU got close, picked them off once in the end zone, picked up a strip sack. Once Alabama had turned it over on downs, the very next play, Alabama defense is rise defense rise to the occasion and takes the ball right back. Jalen Melrose runs it in for a touchdown. And basically once the game got 21 six, looking at the way,
Starting point is 00:08:05 uh, LSU was their inability to consistently move the ball. I felt very comfortable unless, uh, uh, Alabama did something crazy, like turn the ball over, let them get a scoop and score a pick six. I didn't think they could do enough. LSU could offensively. And, uh, I think Brian Kelly is probably banging his head. He's like, man, this was a game and it was, you know, it started raining and you know, oh Joe You know when it starts raining the likelihood of you throwing the ball isn't very good And so now you got to rely on your running attack and that's what Alabama did
Starting point is 00:08:38 Alabama put the ball in their best players hand which is Jalen Milro and he. And when he's playing like he's like he played tonight, they're going to be hard to beat. Kind of like when he played against Georgia, but there are some games that they lost where he turned the ball over and Alabama defense isn't what it once was. They used to go get your quarterback before because they had the Queenie Williams, they had the Jonathan Allen, they had the D lineman that could go hunt and they had the corners and safeties on the back end that could, that could, uh, you know, you had certain and you had a lot, um, uh, McKinney, they don't have those type
Starting point is 00:09:13 of, uh, players right now. Oh Joe. And so it's hard, uh, to consistently get pressure on the quarterback unless they bring additional pressure. And then you sacrifice your back end. But I thought Alabama came to play tonight. They knew it was at stake. You lose this game. There goes the chance at the sec championship. There goes the chance. There's your opportunity for the, uh,
Starting point is 00:09:32 the college football playoffs. This was a game that they had to have and they went on the road and got it. But listen, also is very important. Like the quarterback play has to be consistent. What happens even with the games they do have left, what happened when happens when you have a game where you can't be one dimensional, where you can't just run the ball up and down the field. What happens when it's not raining. So Miro is going to have to be efficient from the pocket and being able to be elusive and extend plays and be off script with it and not turn the ball over. Because some games you're going to play, you're not going to be able to run like that. You're not going
Starting point is 00:10:03 to be able to have touchdowns and run down the field for 70 70 70 yards however long as long as run was so if Alabama from the quarterback position can be as efficient as he was tonight in the passing game when they don't allow you to run Alabama has a chance they will have a chance yeah I thought the offensive line did a pretty good job of protecting him. LSU thought they had got to stop on third down, but they got a face mask call. And the next thing you know, they go down to field and score a touchdown. But when you look at this game, you're absolutely right. Look, Ryan Williams has been quiet the last couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Obviously, they've been paying a lot more attention to him than what they have in the beginning of the season. Because a lot of people probably think of a 17 year old guy that should be going to his, his high school prom has no business playing college football. But he was outstanding earlier, but now they're paying a little bit more attention to it. Um, I, I just feel low choice long as Milroy don't, doesn't put the ball in harm's way Alabama is they're not the Alabama, they're not Nick Saban's Alabama.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah. They had two and they had, uh, who was the other quarterback that they had? What's the male Greg McElroy? Yeah, they had another one. They went ponder. They won a championship with Ponder. They won another one with the that Brent Musburger was going
Starting point is 00:11:20 Google Gaga over his girlfriend. Well, what was that? What was that with AJ McCarran? They don't have defenses to support the team like those guys and like those quarterbacks had defenses. You know why? You know why they don't have the same players or they're not as dominant as they used to be? That got, that NIL, huh?
Starting point is 00:11:39 The NIL has even the playing field with all the big schools that have the boosters and have the money to be able to afford the players. So now everybody's spread out all over the place. Now the playing field with all the big schools that have the boosters and have the money to be able to afford the players Yeah, so now everybody spread out all over the place That a playing field is even now coaching comes into play that much more when it comes to playing some of the better schools that are Just as equal as you when it comes to talent and skill level. Yeah. Yeah, and so uh, alabama and a game They absolutely had to have in order to get their college football playoff hopes alive to keep their sec West hopes alive. They had to win this game by any means necessary.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And they did it behind a very, very vaunted running attack. Jalen Melrow, 12 carries above 85, four touchdowns. They got six cares for 21 yard, 27 yards of a touchdown from young Haynes have a touchdown. So I mean, you can't, you can't play any better run the ball any better than what they ran it. 48 carry 311 yards, six touchdowns with a long of 72. And they did it.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Like I said, they did a great job of neutralizing LSU's running game. LSU had 24 for buckle for, um, that's not even five yards of carry. That's more like that's a little over. I mean, excuse me. That's not even five yards of carry. It's a little over four yards of carry. Um, you can live, you can live with that old joke and they had 239 passing yards, but a lot of it was late in the ball game.
Starting point is 00:12:59 The game was pretty much in hand. And like I said, they did a great job of keeping Nussmaier off, uh, off schedule. They pressured him just enough that when he had times, he saw ghosts, he saw things that weren't there. He'd never got comfortable sitting at feet and throwing the football with any level of consistency. And that's what you have to do. Even if you don't get the quarterback on the ground, you pressure him enough that they start to see ghosts and they start to feel the pressure, even though you're not close enough to cause any damage.
Starting point is 00:13:23 start to see ghosts and they start to feel the pressure, even though you're not close enough to cause any damage, they speed themselves up. They speed themselves up. So Alabama, number 11, Alabama keeps their college football playoff hopes alive and their SEC title hopes alive with a 42 13 win over number 15 LSU in death Valley, number 20, Colorado goes on the road. Takes down Texas Tech by the score of 41-27. Colorado followed four points in the beginning of the game with four touchdowns and a field goal to take the lead 31-20 after three quarters.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Chidur Sanders threw two touchdown passes and ran for a score. Travis Hunter had nine catches, 99 yards on a touchdown. Chidur was 30-43, 2-91. Shiloh recovered a fumble, ran into the end zone with 51 seconds left. Colorado has won his third consecutive game and is on pace to play in the Big 12 Championship game with a chance to qualify for the 12 team college football playoffs. Let's go. That's what I'm talking about. You know, you know what I like? I like the schematically what they did defensively. Normally goddamn Colorado defensively,
Starting point is 00:14:28 they play man to man semi a damn this 70, 70% of the time today they zoned up. They switched it up a little bit and knowing that goddamn Texas tech don't come out and throw that thing a hundred times a game and they switch things up a little bit that I think that was smart on their part. They were, that was smart on their part. But that was smart on their part. Travis Hunter. On I just I got to ask, yeah. Has your thought on Travis Hunter being able to play both side of the ball at the
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Starting point is 00:15:41 he didn't, he didn't hurt him. Nah, he didn't. And they Nah. And you know what? They were getting pressure. They were getting four man pressure too. Yes. They were getting pressure, getting the move around. So they had some success and they looked different defensively. Especially playing, like if it was Texas Tech playing the Colorado team of last year,
Starting point is 00:16:01 I think it would have been a different score. I do too. It would have been a different score. Well I too. It would have been a different score. Well, I think the thing is, look, they're a man team, but when you play a team that likes to throw the ball, like Texas tech, you zone it off because you don't want to get rubbed off or two. Cause a lot of times, you know, they run a lot of now Texas tech don't, doesn't throw it like they once did when they had Patrick Mahomes, when they had
Starting point is 00:16:22 a hair, yeah, Graham Harold, and they had all these other quarterbacks, they don't throw it like that. They're a little bit, a little bit more balanced, but they can throw it. But I thought it was smart because they're thinking one thing that they're going to get a lot of, a lot of man and they get a lot of zone. And so I thought it confused them early on. And then once Colorado was able to settle in, they took off. Like I said, like, you know, we started off by saying they had four straight punts.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And then all of a sudden they go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, I mean, touchdown, touchdown, field goal, and they did a great job of really controlling the game after that. I thought, they should have put the game way a lot earlier with some of those, with those games. Yeah, way earlier, the games should have been over. It should have never come down.
Starting point is 00:17:02 It should have never come down to it. It was a seven point game with like a minute, 10, minute, 15 seconds seconds left in the ball game and you end up having to get a scoop and score because this game should door and all your start a lot of your started with the I thought Pat got a little bit conservative in his play calling. Uh, and maybe times like, Hey, look, let's not do anything crazy. Defense is doing a great job. Hey, defense continue to pressure the quarterback. Let's try to take the ball away, but didn't give up anything cheap. The guy made a great play on the touchdown, uh, to pull them with them. Seven. He made a great play.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Give him credit for that. Um, but I love the way Colorado was playing. Who did, who did have next weekend? Not even next week. Look at the next three, the next three games. I look at, if I looked at this guy, I think it's Utah. I love the way Colorado was playing. Who did they have next weekend? I let not even next week. Look at the next three, the next three games. I look at that. If I looked at this guy, I think it's Utah, Kansas and somebody else.
Starting point is 00:17:51 They got they got a chance. They really got a good chance to run the next three games. They got Utah, Kansas and Oklahoma State. Yeah, I think that Kansas beat Oklahoma State today. Utah is not the power team that they've been over the last couple of years. So that's what- Yeah, they- That's winnable. OTC, you beat Oklahoma State.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Who did Kansas beat? Kansas beat somebody today. UCF. Kansas beat UCF. And so look, Oklahoma is not what they, Oklahoma state isn't what they've been in the past couple of years. Uh, Utah isn't what they've been in the last couple of years. That doesn't mean I was, okay.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Yeah. I will state that doesn't mean that they can't raise up and play above what they've been playing and beat you. You still have to bring your best package, your best pass protection, your best run game, your best defense, and let's see what happens. I think time will have them ready to play. Seven and two, they won 10 games.
Starting point is 00:18:54 That's the first time that they had a coach to win, go win 10 wins in combined seasons. Since Gary Barnett, 99 and 2000, that just goes to show you a team that won four games last year. Looks like it's about to double that wind total up this year. Uh, there are a lot of people that's disappointed that coach prime is doing so well because there are a lot of people that want to see him fail for whatever
Starting point is 00:19:16 reason, maybe he didn't do an interview with you. Uh, maybe you don't like the way, you know, that they call him a false profit. I don't get it. I don't know why it's not like you go into his church. false prophet. I don't get it. I don't know why. It's not like you go into his church. You're not a member of his congregation. This is the funny thing. Even the even the people that want to see him fail.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Think about everything. If you follow Coach Primes career, everything you go everywhere you go, even whether it was on the field or whether it's off the field, everything he does and puts his time in, it turns a goal. Everything he does and puts his time in, it comes into fruition and there's success behind it. So if you watch him at the high school level, he succeeded. If you watch him at the collegiate level, even at Jackson state, he succeeded.
Starting point is 00:19:52 It was a matter of time, even here in Colorado. Now you think about what he's done so far in such a short amount of time, what'd you think it's going to look like next year? What'd you think going to happen when the portal happened hit next year? What'd you think kid is going to want to do? I'm worried about this year because unless they get another Shadour and Travis Hunter. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Let's go ahead. Get this year out of the way. Right. Now, you know, you know, they're going to get a quarterback. You know, the quarterbacks are going to want to come play there. I don't think that's going to be
Starting point is 00:20:20 the issue. Yeah. Getting another player, getting another skilled player and snatching somebody else from one of those other Power 5 schools, oh, they don't count. You know Shadour and Travis can both be top five picks. Now what's the likelihood you get two top five picks out of the portal? Absolutely. So what's the likelihood of you getting two top five
Starting point is 00:20:38 picks out of the portal? Hey, it's some young bulls out there that can play some ball now. Now the chance of getting two top five picks, I don't know, but you can get some very, very good quality players, especially quarterback. I don't think we're going to see another Travis Hunter for a while. We can see another receiver. We can see another dynamic receiver that might transfer, hit the portal and cut me up.
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Starting point is 00:25:56 Right, right, right. They always expect us, but you know, why? Why I gotta be humble? It ain't bragging if I do what I say I can. Right, right, right. And the thing is, because a lot of times, because he was so great, I mean, to be a professional football player and a baseball player simultaneously. So well, we couldn't root again.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I mean, we couldn't do it, say anything bad about him because he was at the top of his game in one sport and he was a damn good player in another sport. So now I guess the only thing we can do is just root against his team, root against his players. Yeah. And if I look, sometimes I expect sometimes other people to do that. I just didn't expect that from, from, but I should expect it because where it's coming from, from some people, some of the people that are coming from, I expect nothing Yeah, most definitely most definitely because they've always done it
Starting point is 00:26:46 They've always done it most of the time for one We're not even afforded opportunities to be at being positions of power like that to be leaders of men, especially young man That's it. So you already know what it comes with especially when you have a coach That's not afraid to say what he needs to say He walks a certain way. He talks a certain way and he doesn't Abide by the guidelines of what it's like to be a head coach. He doesn't. He marches by the beat of his own drum and it rubs a lot of people the wrong way. Yeah, it does. It does. No, I don't root for the Cowboys, but I said after Jerry Jones
Starting point is 00:27:20 did what he did in 2016, yeah, they don't want another game. I don't openly root for because I like some of the players. I like Michael. I like did I like some of the players. I don't have no problem. I don't have a problem with that. But after Jerry Jones and out the way he's Oh, yeah. What happened in 2016? Everybody knows what happened in 2016. We don't have to go back into it. Everybody knows. Hold on. Everybody gonna stand that one. Yeah, all that. He's done enough over the last couple of years.
Starting point is 00:27:47 So like I said, I don't if they don't win any games as long as he's in charge, then somebody else gets in charge. Hey, let's go Cowboys. Because when the Cowboys win, everybody wins. All the networks win. The podcast, we talk about what we talk about, we win. But as long as he's at the helm, nah, I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. But y'all, y'all know who it is. Y'all know the guy that, oh,
Starting point is 00:28:14 he's a false prophet and he's not going to win. And you can't do this for the poor. Now we don't, we don't, we what we don't do is that we don't give people, we don't talk about, we don't give call people names on our platform. Okay, and can you give me a hint? Give me a hint. Yeah, I'll take it to you. But I think everybody in the chat knows who it is
Starting point is 00:28:31 because he openly goes out of his way. And it seems like, and the reason why a lot of these podcasts don't have success like a lot of the other, because they're lazy. Because they don't wanna do anything but talk about what you and I do or what a coach isn't doing or what somebody
Starting point is 00:28:46 else is doing. They can't create any other. They can't create any other content other than talk about what somebody else is doing. You're lazy. That's why you get 5,000 views. That's why you have 780 people that watch your show at a time because you're lazy. Huh? I got a question. And whoever you talk about, they be talking about us? We ain't do nothing wrong.
Starting point is 00:29:09 No, they won't talk about you. They talk about me. But because the people don't, Who? Who talk about you? The people, what they fail to realize, yes, there are some people that, hey, that's in your boat, that they don't particularly
Starting point is 00:29:22 care about me or the success that I'm starting to have. And so yeah, they're going to watch it. But there's a reason, there is a reason that the, that, that because you're so lazy and you can't talk about things, all you can talk about is what people are doing or not do. Your podcast create, create content. And so tell me, tell me who it is. So I can go at it. Create content. And so. Tell me who it is. So I can go at it. No, no. Why would we lend them our audience?
Starting point is 00:29:52 Nah, see, listen, it's not about lending. Sometime you gotta set a precedent. You gotta set a precedent. No we don't. Now if somebody talk about you, you gotta let me know. Let me handle your dirty work. No, but see what? I'm the enforcer.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Let me tell you how we do it, Ocho. We just let them down the vine. Just let them down the vine. And he didn't, man, he didn't put up with that for you, I don't care. No, no, no. That's the thing, Ocho. Leave them where they are. And then eventually people, and people are,
Starting point is 00:30:20 people like, bro, that's all you talk about is Shannon, what he's doing and what he's wearing. And he said this and he should have done that. When are you gonna create original content? Okay, okay, okay. All these games, do you know how many games to get played on a Saturday? Do you know how many NFL games?
Starting point is 00:30:37 How many basketball games? Do you know how many things are going on that doesn't involve Shannon? But seemingly four or five times a week, all you talk about is Shannon. What Shannon said on ESPN, what Shannon did, what, bro, damn! Now, I don't mind it because what,
Starting point is 00:30:54 when sponsors and advertisers, they see the impressions. Right. And they see the views, they like, oh, wit luck, wit luck, cause you mean to tell me somebody's gonna continuously talk about you and bring your name up? Uh-huh. Y'all thought y'all did, oh, look at, oh, wit luck, wit luck, because you mean to tell me somebody's gonna continuously talk about you and bring your name up? Y'all thought y'all did, oh, look at, oh, look at all. Do y'all realize that Total Wine, how many cases of Chez Bale Portier Total Wines are purchased?
Starting point is 00:31:15 I need y'all to go make some more videos. I need y'all to make some more videos, because Total Wine, love it. That's what y'all don't get. Y'all have made me way more popular than I probably would have been had y'all not done what you've done. Yeah yeah yeah make me popular too. Make me popular. Of course because it's nightcap. Yeah I want to be famous too. Yeah that's the thing Ocho but we're not lazy because Ash and I spend so much time and we run stuff by your producer.
Starting point is 00:31:47 OK, it's OK talking about this. We spend an enormous amount of time trying to create original content. Yeah, we get stuff that we think people want to talk about on the Internet when it comes to dating or somebody did something to somebody car. But for the most part, most I would say 90% of our content is original. No, we're not. We're not playing the game, but we're talking about games. We're talking about things that we think people want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Occasionally we have a dating thing in here or this or that. And sometimes we have to talk about what a player said or what a player has done off the field. But for the most part, we're talking about sports and we're talking about culture. We're talking about entertainment and a lot of other things. But yeah, you know what? You know what? And this is no disrespect to all the podcasts that I think I love all of them.
Starting point is 00:32:34 I love all of them. I'm not going to name them all, but everybody has, you know, great content, everybody's different. But there is no podcast like ours. No, we talk sports, we talk culture, we talk to the things, some of the things that are going in the world, but when it comes to the motherfucking stories, when it comes to the stories and experiences that we've both been through, you know, some of yours are from the past, some of mine, I'm living them now and some of mine that that I live, you know, back in the day, nothing touches that. It's so real, it's so authentic.
Starting point is 00:33:03 And the funny thing about it is the people that are watching our show, they hear some of the stories like, god damn I can relate to that. They're going through the same stuff we went through. Yes, we did the same. Yes, but people, Ocho, when I tell a story, people actually think I'm lying. Man, I'm trying to get cred. Bro, you think I want to tell somebody somebody pulled a gun on me or kick the door off the hinges to get crepe Bro, I'm 56 my crepe days are over I can't get no crepe. Oh, you ain't grow up like that. Why would somebody tell a story? Oh Joe about no Have no indoor plumbing
Starting point is 00:33:44 Why would somebody have to tell that theycho, about no habit, no indoor plumbing? Why would somebody have to tell that they had to go outside to use the bathroom until they were 20 years of age, if that wasn't true? But all I gotta say is this, anybody that thinks any story that I'm tell, I'll match it. Put up a million dollars, and I'll go get the players that were involved. All you gotta do, anybody that says anything that I've said now, the lady,
Starting point is 00:34:11 the lady with the lobster story, I couldn't be, I couldn't remember a name and I couldn't find her. But the story about, but the dude pulling the gun, the guy kicking the door off the hinges. Yeah. Yeah. Me growing up, how I grew up and eating what I, all you gotta do is put up the money, money, talk, bulljive wall. Yeah. yeah. Me growing up, how I grew up and eating what I all you got to do is put up the money. Money talk, bulljive wall.
Starting point is 00:34:28 Yeah, yeah. I don't know. And people be telling me my stories be fake and be false. Everything I say is real. Yeah. And they hate those. I'm trying to figure out if Steven, they get 50 million dollars a year. How much money is coming out of your pocket? That's Disney. that's ESPN. Y'all should be rooting for a brother man
Starting point is 00:34:48 to get that kind of money. Because think about it, that gives everybody else an opportunity because that's the measuring stick. I don't give a, I wanted to get it. Cause you know who coming in the door after. Hey, hey, hey, hey, I'm gonna be right behind you. I'm gonna be right behind you.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Yeah, so that's the thing. I mean, look, like I said, I've known Prime for a long time. He is what he is. I mean, we joke. Like, I don't bother him as much now because he got a lot more on his plate. I bother him a little bit when he's at Jackson State.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I bother his ass a lot more when he was coaching his sons at high school. But I just I just want us to win because the money is out there. The money's out there. And just because Nightcap gets something, that doesn't mean something got taken away from you. Right. Because Club Shayshae gets a sponsor that OK, y'all make it seem like the financials. You got the pets. You got cars. You got hotels.
Starting point is 00:35:50 So if a sponsor does something with me, what you mean to tell me? You can't go to another one. A credit card or a cellular service. I'm confused. Yeah, I look at somebody like, okay, I got a team. See if they'd be interested. If they're not interested, guess what? All them sale providers, all those cars. I look at it. It ain't that hard.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Oh, Joe, it's not that hard. But I said, we try to be original. That's what we try to do. And I think what sets us apart is that we can tell stories. And the way I can tell a story I have, I've always been the guys when I was in Denver used to call me the storyteller because I have a great memory and I can remember things damn near verbatim how they happen. But lie about what? Because you know what has happened, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:36:56 People have lied and been deceived for so much that the truth is shocking. Ain't no way that could be true because what you see on the internet, what you see on social media, what people have done to constantly try to deceive people and pull the wool. But at this point in 56, what you see on social media, what people have done to constantly try to deceive people and pull the wool. But at this point in 56, what you see is what you get. A big old black 56 year old country mofo. That's it. Yeah, that's it. Same.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I'm not going to change. I'm not. Yeah. I'm just too, it's too late in the game to change now because this is served. I'm just doing it's too late in the game to change now because this is sir Me or my family my friends nightcap club. Shae Shae anything that I've been associated with the Broncos the Ravens It served as well. But uh, we go we go be alright. Oh Joe. We got Yeah, you'd a
Starting point is 00:37:47 Should do it Sanders side it takes a stick fans tortilla at the Colorado Wilds road victory. Ashes telling me, Ocho, that's their thing. Like Mississippi State has cowbells. You come in and you're ready to cowbell. Certain schools have certain traditions. I guess Texas Tech is throwing tortillas on the field. So I guess on Saturdays, you better be already stocked up on your tortillas
Starting point is 00:38:09 or you're not eating. What did they put in tortillas? Quesadillas or what did they put in tortillas? Tacos, okay. Meat. Yeah, oh yeah, burritos, yeah. So if you had stocked up, cause all these college fans,
Starting point is 00:38:24 they go in and they buy them, they buy them on the field. I guess it's kind of like, what is that? Detroit red, red wings where they throw fish on the ice? Yeah. Or, or somebody, somebody throw octopus too. Yes, yes, yes. And so, but should do or sign one of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Wow. Hey, we go, we go get copyrighted for this But should do or sign one of them. Yeah Wow, hey Okay, you saw Travis Hunter put a toti in his pants before the snap of the body Yeah, yeah Yeah guys we got to be so we don't. And people sometimes they've asked why we don't really show a whole lot of stuff. Oh, Joe, is that we got to we got a copyright. And so we got about another what we got to copyrights. So for the next 90 days.
Starting point is 00:39:22 OK, we got 55 days. We've already done 35 of them. And so, and what happens guys, if you use somebody else and I guess what happened was this is what happened. Oh, Joe. And I don't need, I've never shared this with you is that you remember that we showed the clip of trap of cam being on the field at UCF. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was talking to Travis, and he's talking to Shadour. Okay. Yes, sir. Ash got the footage from Twitter.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Right. We didn't know whose it was. I mean, it had already been tweeted, blah, blah, blah, all of a sudden, all over. It was everywhere. It was everywhere. Well, the guy that footage that it was, Right. He put a thing in YouTube YouTube flagged us so in the park so they took
Starting point is 00:40:12 They took it down. Not only did they take it down the money that we would have that we would have made he got it. Oh Hell no, no check this out. We had so now what we did, you know, we cut it. We had a breakout clip. Right. It was the same clip, but he said we had posted it again. So they took that one down, gave us a second copyright infringement and gave him the monetization from that clip. And-
Starting point is 00:40:40 Oh, so he took our money? He took all, he took it all. That's fine. I ain't got a problem with that. But the problem is, is the two strikes we get a third strike. They take nightcap down. So we got no channel. So that's why we've been extra careful.
Starting point is 00:40:57 And then then what happened is that we reached out and tried to have a conversation. Okay, okay. He wanted to come on nightcap, spend at least five to 10 minutes talking. He wanted us to promote, he wanted us to do a segment about that video every single, a breakout clip with him every single week. In other words, to make a long story short, I'm not going to get too far into it. He wanted us to leave the video up permanently. So to make a long story short, he wanted us to build his YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:41:33 That wasn't gonna happen. Hold on. Hey, man, we got to put our shisties on, man. He took our money, man. Bro, don't worry. Ocho, we get that money back. I know I'm just I'm just I don't like the way he move it. I don't like it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:41:49 It is what it is. Had we had we known? Well, we don't. Oh, Joe, do you know how much money that I lost from that cat Williams clip? Mm hmm. Probably if I had got a lot like Joe Rogan, you can't use Joe Rogan clips.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Right. Had I just set it up, say you can't use my clips. Right. I probably, it's that we've had like 150 million views just on my YouTube channel. Yes sir. We probably would have done 500, 600 million views. And what I've made, you'd probably triple it.
Starting point is 00:42:32 But I said, you know what, hey. Hold on, don't even worry about it. We gonna get that back though. Yeah, for sure. But that was a. That was a. Hey, hey, hey, hey, cause right now the cuff run is over.
Starting point is 00:42:43 For sure, for sure. I'm not gonna preach, I'm not gonna preach but the cuff run is over for sure for sure I'm not gonna preach I'm not gonna preach but the cuff run is over. But my thing was bro. I said bro. We don't have no problem Bringing you home, but you're not gonna tell us how long we got to have you on for You're not gonna tell us we have to leave your video for perpetuity You're not gonna tell us we've got to promote your channel. That ain't happening. We got the... And he wanted us on all the channels, Shayshae Media channels, to follow him.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And he wanted me to follow him personally. What? Hey, what's his name? Send me his information. But guess what? Hey, can I ask you a question? He work for Colorado for the bus. No, because I'm I'm going to the game next weekend.
Starting point is 00:43:29 But the thing is, it's all good. I look, I think we're going to stay out of harm's way for the next 55 days. We don't get we don't know. No, we're going to we're going to get we're going to get those those two things removed and we're going to be because what happens is that it slows the viewership Now we're not as the algorithm doesn't Recommend us like it was did that's why if you know this if you notice our subscribers have slowed I've been hold on
Starting point is 00:43:59 You know what I could do that. You know, I got the connection. I know the people at YouTube I know the CEO so if you need me to make a call, let me know. No, we good. No, we're gonna play it by the book. The right way? Okay, okay. We're gonna wait out. We've been great for 35 days.
Starting point is 00:44:15 We got 55 more days. So 55 more days. So by like the 20th of December, we're gonna be straight. But it's a valuable lesson. I'm Ash moving forward, team moving forward, reach out, ask, cause a lot of times like, they'll reach out like house highlights and people they'll reach out.
Starting point is 00:44:37 Can we use this? Can I use that? Huh? Yeah, we didn't know. We didn't know because we didn't know who it was, who it belonged to. Like if somebody had something out there, I would like, okay, sure. But a lot of people would reach out. Shannon, can we use this clip from Club Shay-Shay? Can we use this from Nightcap? Sure, no problem. Yeah. No problem. But had we known, we would have gone through
Starting point is 00:45:04 the steps, just like have gone through the steps, just like people go through the steps when it comes to Shea Shea, when it comes to Nightcap. Absolutely. But we didn't know. But it's a lesson learned. You live and learn.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Ain't no problem. Yeah, he got the money that we would have made from that episode and that clip. It's all good, Ocho. You can't stop progress. Oh, absolutely not. Cause one thing, my God, he got favor now. Come on now.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Yeah, he did. Yeah, well he tried to, and I was like, I thought about it. I said, nah, nah, I said, nah, we've not been negotiated with a terrorist. You're not been the mode of hostage. We all made an honest mistake. Bro, you actually think we did this on purpose? You think we did this on purpose?
Starting point is 00:45:54 It's the world we live in, uncle. It's the world we live in. Most people, they're opportunistic, especially when they know you made an honest mistake. It's all good. No, I don't want him to get banned. I would not reach out. I would not tell time to do anything
Starting point is 00:46:09 because I want their young brother to make his money. I want him to get his money. And he felt this was the best way for him to try to like come up by all means. Do what you need to do, bro. But. Damn. Damn, I'm sorry to hear that, man.
Starting point is 00:46:23 That happened. Hey, he took food off both our tables. Yeah. I ain't the only one that lost out, but everybody, I mean everybody, you know what I'm saying? Oh, we got a big staff here. Yeah, yeah. Hell, I didn't know until we had a meeting.
Starting point is 00:46:42 We got 20 people. Damn, you got 20. God, when you have a nightcap and a club, Shaysay, 20 and that's not even that's not even talking about Shelley. Just just the people because nightcap is every single day. So we got right as we're talking, Ocho, we probably already got the clip up with Alabama. We probably already got that posted Okay, people doing graphic. We got to be
Starting point is 00:47:10 Yes, we got producers and everything we got people damn they're working around the clock to spit out Cut it and it's gonna go out a certain amount of time. Right? So yeah, it's a it's a it's a big undertaking There's a lot of you know People think oh, you know, you can do this. No, if do, you do it right. Yeah. Cause I want it to look professionally done. I always wanted to be the best.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I want people to like, okay, look at the lighting, look at X, Y, Z, look at the graphics. And we're always trying to, you see, we have graphics for every segment. We have a ticker, we try to have it. We try to be as professional as we possibly can because we believe our viewing and listening audience, because they're giving us their eyes and their ears, they deserve the absolute best.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And I'm not going to be standing and try to save money while shortchanged. My fans that listen to the club, she said that listen to nightcap. That's not going to happen. Right. That's not going to happen. So I just want you guys to know that we do everything we possibly can to bring you the best single show every single night, every night that we're on Sunday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday club. Shea Shea. We pay a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Hey, we spend as tons of money. I mean, just, just for the sites, when we go on the road, you know, yeah, we spent, I think for location fees, just for club Shae Shae, we spent three quarters of a million dollars. That's not including the camera. I'm just saying for the venue that we go use, that's what we spend. Cause we want to make sure it's right. We want to make sure it's done right. And so we because I believe I believe my fans deserve that. I believe people that listen to Nightcap, if they're going to take time out of their schedule. And that's why I'm so hard on
Starting point is 00:49:01 the crew. I say these people you got these people stand up midnight, one, two, three in the morning. And we're going to give them no, we're not going to do that. That's not what we're going to do. And I understand things happen, but it damn sure better not happen more than once. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side and Liar's Poker. And every season of my podcast Against the Rules, I take a broad look at various characters in American life.
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Starting point is 00:51:55 It's Peter Schrager from the NFL Network's Good Morning Football and Fox's NFL Kickoff Show. We're back for the season with Peter Schrager, the podcast you find right here. In each episode of the season, I'm gonna take you inside and behind the scenes of the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. We're bringing the top GMs, top coaches,
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Starting point is 00:53:37 So join us every week as we break down episodes of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's official challenge podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. ["Battle of the Eras"] Also, for the next 55 days, guys, we can't show y'all no video. I said all that. I said all that chat to show y'all no video.
Starting point is 00:54:07 I said all that. I said all that chat. We can't show y'all no videos. So hopefully, hopefully what we'll do, we'll like explain it to you and then you can go see it. And then you can put two and two together and you can use your imagination of what we're talking about. So to what we're talking about. So, a matter of fact, you know what? I went out with him plan. I'm not. I'm sure you know now that you in the podcast world, you know, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:34 Josh Headey. I don't know. Okay. Very, very good friend of mine. He created a app I had long time ago called Mad Chad, right? Yeah. And he is very, very, very, when I say very well connected, very well connected when it comes to the world of podcasts. YouTube.
Starting point is 00:54:57 So when I when I when I said that statement, most people in the chat would probably say, you know, he's joking, but I really have the, the get away from the middle man to go straight to the top. That's why I said, yeah, but we want to do it. If they want to do it, they can go see it at some point in time. The video like a video or something. Yeah. So what we're trying to do, we're trying to post a link
Starting point is 00:55:22 that you can go watch the video that Ocho and I were talking about. So you'll get a better understanding. Um, because it's kind of hard. I like, we, we say something and we don't have the cause a lot of times, don't you remember we used to talk over the video. Right. And so people would actually see what was going on. And so we could explain and, you know, you had your take on what you, why you
Starting point is 00:55:42 thought it was this or that I would have my take why I Thought it was that or this but it's kind of hard But hopefully you guys understand but 50 bear with us for 50 by 55 more days Can you give us 55 more days and we'll be right back at it and I promise you guys we won't make this mistake again like January January like like We were 35 days in. Uh, so we've got 55 more days.
Starting point is 00:56:09 So like middle of this, like middle of December. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Cause we got, we got what? 21 more days.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Today is the night. The day is the night. So there's 30 days in November, 30 days in November. And then, okay. So around damn near damn that Christmas time. Yeah. Yeah and then. Okay. So around them, their damn Christmas. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But we go to be like, that'd be a good gift. That'd be a good gift. Yeah. And then, and then guess what? We have all the strikes removed.
Starting point is 00:56:40 We would have gone through the process. Hey, yes, we disputed it, but, but what's there to dispute? We had the video up. Yeah. He said, we, you know, we use it. We use this thing unknowingly. We did. I mean, we wanted to use it, but we didn't know the channels to go, you
Starting point is 00:56:57 know what I'm saying? To go, you know, who we, who did it belong to because it had been tweeted because it was a viral clip. Well, yeah, we didn't really know who it belonged to. I bet he tweeted because it was a viral clip. Well, yeah. So we didn't really know who it belonged to. I bet he didn't do that to nobody else. No, he did. He did.
Starting point is 00:57:11 I think it was about 20 people, he said. You know, he had a big thing. He was, he was proud of it. Oh, he went and capitalized then. Yeah, he was, he was, he was happy about it. That thank you, YouTube, that, you know, people, you know, you know, trying to, you know, I'm just the honor, you know, that people trying to, I'm just honored. You know, like I said, we spent far too much time.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Number 16, Ole Miss defeated number three, Georgia 28 to 10. After taking the opening series, Ole Miss recorded five sacks, nine tackle for losses, four fumbles, and intercepted a Carson Beck pass. Ole Miss fans rushed to fields carrying the goalposts through the streets of Oxford. That dart, who was 13 or 22, passing for 199 yards with an interception.
Starting point is 00:57:52 The Ole Miss Rebels finished with 397 total yards. They did a job on the Mojo. They did a job. They got after Georgia. Georgia, Georgia, Georgia problem is their quarterback. Now I don't know how, what they saw in this guy to have this guy, after Georgia, Georgia, Georgia, Georgia problem is their quarterback. Now I don't know how a, what they saw in this guy to have this guy. He was like, he was the number one prospect quarterback. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Hey, I got, I got a question with all the 10 and two teams, right. In a sec, you feel like there's a paradigm shift in the conference? Oh, it's yeah. But look, yeah, it's shifting completely. Well, you brought Texas in. I mean, I think the thing is, Ocho, and now you got 12 teams. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Because when you only had four, it would pretty much be over for a lot of teams. But because you have 12, so now you're gonna get eight more teams that had no chance the previous years. Yeah. So, but we, I don't know if you get in with three losses, but they're going to be some because they're going to be some teams with two losses that get in.
Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah. Right. But when I think about, right. Think about, think about when I talk about the paradigm shift, it's been Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia. I mean, consistently year in and year out now, man, listen, everything is changing. The landscape of, of who's probably going to be in a playoff is changing. They still can be there. I think what you're looking at, you're talking about the SEC has been Alabama, Georgia, Alabama,
Starting point is 00:59:21 Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, Alabama, Georgia, And it still could, but Texas has one loss. A and M has one loss. And these are some teams. I think Texas played, no, the Texas play for the, uh, they played in the SEC championship game last year. Right. Or was it, Oh, this is their first year in SEC. So yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:41 So I think the thing is, Oh Joe is that you're gonna have it's gonna be tough I don't think Oklahoma's gonna be down forever right, right, um but Yeah, it's a situation where? The likelihood of you seeing Georgia and Alabama dominate like they once did No, but uh, they did a job on them, oh Joe they did a job on them. Oh, Joe, they did a job on them.
Starting point is 01:00:08 And I'm not, I'm surprised. I'm not surprised based given how Carson, how poorly Carson Beck has played because they won some games in which you threw three interceptions and consecutive games, and they won those games because they were so much better than the opposing team. Now you get a team that doesn't turn the ball over as much as you do. Now you see what happens. And the talent in just about as even too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Yeah. And Lane Kiffin is a hell of a coach. Now he has a very unorthodox way and I think he kind of rubbed Coach Saban the wrong way, but there is no denying he can coach. There's no denying he can coach that. And you know, normally the guys that come up on the Saban, they learned something when they were there. More so than in, you know, Lane Kiffin was on the Coach Saban.
Starting point is 01:01:00 Kirby Smart, Jimbo Fisher, there've been a lot of Billy Napier. I mean, you go back and look, got, uh, uh, Loxley at Maryland. You go back and look at his tree, go look at college football and look at coach Saban's tree. Right. That thing, like a dry, a giant redwood, he got some coaches on it. Yeah. Um, but Ole Miss, the number 16 Ole Miss,
Starting point is 01:01:27 defeats number three Georgia 28 to 10 and keeps their SEC championship game hopes alive, keeps their college football playoffs hopes alive. Georgia Tech upsets number four Miami 28 to 23. Oh Joe, you can't keep living. Hey, can't live. Keep living on a prayer, bro. You you you tipped in fate. You tipped in fate. Yeah, man. Cam Ward had an unbelievable game throwing the ball, but they got stopped three times on fourth down the last time.
Starting point is 01:01:59 He got stopped on fourth down and he fumbled the football and Georgia Tech was able to win. on fourth down and he fumbled the football and Georgia Tech was able to win. It's going to hurt. And that sack fumble hurt, man, at the end, Brian. Some if I think I'm honestly believe that they were going to go down to score if it wasn't for that sack fumble. Well, that was for down. So they were going to go down unless they got a first down.
Starting point is 01:02:22 You know, I mean, they were going gonna get the first to be able to continue to continue to drive in the series. I really was hoping and I really felt, you know what these boys gonna come at, God was gonna answer their prayers and they were gonna be 10 and 0. But it's unfortunate. Georgia Tech ran the ball 48 times, 271 yards.
Starting point is 01:02:44 When you run the ball like that, what do you do? You control the clock. You keep that high powered Miami passing offense off the field. Cam Ward was sensational again. He was 25 and 39, 348, three touchdowns, no pick. They ran the ball 24 times for 86 yards, but they are a throwing football team. They're not a passing team.
Starting point is 01:03:04 Cam Ward was the Heisman favorite going into that game. I don't know if he still is coming out of that game. Damn. But they lost? They lost, man. They lost. So who, I mean, let's say, okay, they- For me, I still think Travis Hunter is the best player in college football I think right if they win or know if they win another how many more games do they have that two or three? You got to be more than three they got three left they got three games left if they make the big Okay Remember last year Jane Daniel won the Heisman losing three games. I think that was the most losses for Heisman winner in a very, very long time.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Normally they won defeated one, maybe two games, but Jane Daniels won it last year and he deserved to win because he was in session. He was clearly college football. Best player. I mean, look, what did you do tonight? Did you have a big game rushing? Oh, but what do you what do you think? Oh, Miami. But you can't keep do you think, Ocho, Miami? But you can't keep living like that, Ocho. Every time you think about Ocho, the Cal game, they came back.
Starting point is 01:04:31 The Duke game, they came back. There was another game that they came from behind and they won. The Hurricanes got to find a way to be consistent and efficient all four quarters. Yes. No more lapses. No more, no more starting slow. I'm not sure why they always start slow and always play hero ball towards the end of the game.
Starting point is 01:04:51 End of the third, middle of the third, coming out of halftime. They got to hit the ground running from start to finish. Yes. But there's, there's no reason they should have lost to Georgia Tech. Obviously Georgia Tech did play a good football game today, but teams like, I think when it comes to teams like that,
Starting point is 01:05:07 if you want to be the Hurricanes of the old, you come into a game like this and you win convincingly. You win convincingly, you just have to. If you are who you think you are right now, as far as how far the Hurricanes have come in improving, you know, that school and that program. Yeah. But that's what happens, Ocho, because see, the thing is, is that when you play a team and the longer you leave a team in a game in which you're supposed to win,
Starting point is 01:05:39 the more confidence you give them. Oh, yeah. My college coach used to always say, say son killing that with a sledgehammer. We're better than that team. But if you leave them in a game long enough, they gonna start turning cart wheels. They're gonna start feeling good about themselves and they're gonna believe they can beat your ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And so I always kept that in the back of my mind. Okay, yeah. I think we should, we were better than this team. We've won six games, they won no games. And all of a sudden here we are in late in the third quarter and it, we're up 10, seven. Now they believe they, they believe they belong. And now a game that we should have won, you know, we done got sloppy. We done throw a pig or we fumbled a ball or whatever the case may be.
Starting point is 01:06:21 I had a drop on third down or something. We've allowed a team to stay into a ballgame. We should have put away at the first at the first half. Right. And I think that's what's happening with Georgia Tech. They keep starting slow, Ocho. And you given these teams hope you given these teams are like, man, man, it's the third quarter. And we right here with the number 14, number three team in the country.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Now you got hell on your hands. And it's kind of like a boxing match, Jojo. Hey, the longer you lead, the longer you lead the underdog in there, it's like, hey, man, we round eight. I'm still here. I'm round nine. At that point, it's a punch, you got to punch his chance.
Starting point is 01:07:00 Exactly, exactly. You got to punch his chance. And so, and that's what Georgia Tech says, hey, here we are in the fourth quarter. Uh huh. Uh, we're up. But give the Yellow Jackets credit, Ocho. I mean, they're tough. I mean, look, you don't see an offense like they run often on a whole lot. They have a whole lot of teams run the wishbone or the broken bone, the beer or whatever you want to call it. You know, maybe army, Navy tech, but not a whole lot of teams. They used, a lot of teams used to run.
Starting point is 01:07:31 Everybody used to run in the big, in the big eight, uh, before it became the big 12, you had Nebraska and Colorado and Oklahoma and Oakley state, uh, Tennessee. There are a lot of teams run the wishbone, the beer, the worldly bird option, Tennessee called there's a lot of teams run the wishbone, the beer, the Whirlybird option. Tennessee called there's the Whirlybird. But now only a few teams, and because you have to be sound every single play. If you got the fullback, get the fullback. If you got the pitch man, take the pitch man.
Starting point is 01:07:58 If you got the quarterback, take the quarterback. Because the one time you don't own your responsibility, and he gives that ball to the fullback, he gonna hit his head on the goalpost. Yeah. And so, uh, but give Georgia Tech credit six and four, four and three in the conference. 91 Miami, Miami was undefeated. Number four, hurricanes lose. They go down to Georgia.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Hey, they went down to Georgia looking for a soda steel. They're troubling. My, they drove in the line, look and make a deal. You know, Charlie Daniels, they ever drove down to Georgia looking for a soda still their troubling money drove in the line looking make a deal You know Charlie Daniels There was no doubt. You're looking for a soda still What you know about Charlie? Yeah, man, there are hurricanes like my coach used to say man a high school man. Don't play down to your competition Yeah, don't play down to you competition
Starting point is 01:08:43 You leave him in the game and this is the results you get. That's exactly. Quinn Ewers throws five touchdown passes as the number five Texas Longhorns drove the struggling Florida Gators 49-17. Queent Quinn Ewers, 333 passing yards, five touchdowns and the number five Texas roll over the struggling Florida two days after the third year Gators coach Billy Napier was given a public statement of support from the school's athletic director. I just don't know, Ocho. That's still Florida. That's the Florida Gators.
Starting point is 01:09:20 National champion. They've had national champions. They've had Heisman Trophy winners. They've won national championships. You can't blame the coach, academics, AD needs to understand, they need to understand in order to compete, you got to have the players. In order to have the players, you got to open up that pocketbook. Oh yeah. It's a different time now. players, the players in Florida aren't staying in Florida anymore. It was at one point they was picking between three different schools.
Starting point is 01:09:52 He was either going to Miami, he was going to Florida state, he was going to Florida, one of the other, not, you're not going to be the powerhouse. You, you, you were, or you used to be at what you used to do. And you're not going to win like that. You got to open up your pocketbook, open up your purse. I don't know who the athletic director is at the end of Gainesville, but it's the only way, baby. I think, Ocho, the thing is that when you look at it,
Starting point is 01:10:17 when you looking at a power five and you looking at a team in the big 10, you're looking at a team in the big 12, you're looking at a team in the SEC. Yeah, I can go pro from any of them. Yeah. So now if I can, if the end 10, you're looking at a team in the big 12, you're looking at a team in the SEC. Yeah, I can go pro from any of them. Yeah. So now if I can, if the end result, I can end up in my destination.
Starting point is 01:10:31 Right. Who gonna make sure I'm the coolest when I arrive at that destination? Meaning, who gonna make sure mama got a nice crib? Who gonna make sure I'm driving a Lambo truck? Who gonna make sure I'm driving a Lambo or a Cullinan? I just need to know who gonna make sure that before I get there.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Cause I need to arrive in style. I mean, I can't just, I can't, you look at it. Chargers and challenges are nice. Yeah. But I need a little bit more. It's a different ball game. For sure. And I ain't mad at them.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Gotta pay the plane. Man, they talk about third string walk on quarterback. Tell the Florida fans that. Tell them Boosters that. Anybody try to handle those users? Boosters, no. They see the landscape on how everybody else is doing. They're seeing what teams are doing.
Starting point is 01:11:29 You got to pay to play, baby. That's it. Yeah. That's who we are now. I ain't mad at them either. At all. I ain't mad. I am not mad. Get that money.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Get it. Because, do you see, did you see what the ESPN paid for the SEC rights? Did you see what Fox paid for the big 10 rights? So y'all got all that money go to school and the players don't get nothing. Oh, they got an education and. Educate these pockets. That's what I need. So I mean, college kids, they got ages.
Starting point is 01:12:09 They get ages now. They got CPAs because you get this NIM money. You got to pay taxes. Just cause you 70 to 18, Uncle Sam tax your ass too. Everybody get it. He coming to get it. Oh, he want your money. And if you don't pay it now, you're gonna pay it later
Starting point is 01:12:26 Sure will cuz I I've been man. Uncle Sam audited me and it costs more for the postage than what he got But he won't hear money. Oh, I pay I overpay they'd be sending me look They send me money back or I let it roll over. Oh, no, you're not Cuz they go let that thing roll. Let it go. Let the interest build up. Hit your A. Double your answer. And then because they already know that, oh, you know what? He can cover this right now.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Let's not bother. Let it go. Let it go. Interest. Then guess what? Once they audit you, they take that thing way back. They go way back. Way back. They go back. They go back with you like car seats. Y'all go take that thing way back. They go way back. Way back. They go back with you like coffee. Y'all going way all the way back. Listen, you know when you're a high drive pick,
Starting point is 01:13:13 you know how far back them scouts go to do their homework on you before they invest that money in you? Oh yeah, they go to high school, they go way back. That's how far back Uncle Sam goes. Joe will. He want all his money. I never forget.
Starting point is 01:13:27 My draft process, talking to Mike Brown, Duke Tobin, sat down and talked with Duke. And they told me and they gave me a understanding of the process. Why did they go back and talk to my elementary teachers? They sure would. Why did they go back and talk to my teachers in junior high? What does what I did in elementary and junior high
Starting point is 01:13:47 have to do with me being at the NFL level where I'm still not the same person I was in elementary and junior high? They went back far. They gonna make sure you not that same person. Hey, the hot dog, the stuff that, I mean, for those of you in the chat, I mean, you should see the research that teams,
Starting point is 01:14:07 scouts do before they invest in these players and pay them all that money. They went, they go all the way back. But they should, I mean, elementary, junior high, college, that's crazy. Oh Joe, think about it. If you about to invest $50 million in a property, you just gonna take the last,
Starting point is 01:14:25 you will just take the last year or you gonna go all the way back. Right. Hell yeah. These team invested millions and millions and millions of dollars. I mean, anytime you invest that kind of money in something, you wanna know exactly what I'm getting.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Yeah. Yeah. I just wanna make sure it ain't no ain't no funny business. Okay How was it in college because I got to make sure because money doesn't change it makes you more about you already are now I just want people to understand that money does not change you it makes you more of what you already are If you act it like a jerk and you act crazy, sometimes you see guys. It clicks for.
Starting point is 01:15:11 Man, I'm in this position, I'm in this situation. My mom, dad, grandma, my family straight, and I can't mess this up. And sometimes you throw caution to the wind, ain't nothing going to happen to me and you do crazy stuff. And then people like, well, man, I don't know what. But when you if you've done your homework. Mm hmm. The guy told a story. What's the Oklahoma State black man?
Starting point is 01:15:37 When the Jacksonville Justin Black, you know, the real boy, he went nice. The guy stole say, you know what? They was thinking about drafting it. Obviously he was the best receiver. Go down to Oklahoma state. Say, he spent a week down there. Guess who went, was in the bar every single day for a week, having drinks.
Starting point is 01:16:01 Tell the people that home or Joe what happened. He was in the bar every week. Every day for a week. That's not a man. What's the likelihood? And I go somewhere and I see that person in that bar every single day for a week. That's not his pattern of behavior. So are we surprised that What transpired for him once he got to the NFL
Starting point is 01:16:30 No, we're not because that's who he was and now that I think about it If you ain't got no money, you know when you in college, you ain't really got no money You drinking private stock you drinking booze form you drinking big mouth Mickey's you drinking bull drive you get some money Man, you get in Belleouth Mickey's, you drinking Bull Drive, you get some money. Man, you getting Bellevue, you getting the good stuff. You're gonna afford the good stuff. So that's the thing, and I don't have a problem with guys invest, yes, I'm gonna find out
Starting point is 01:16:58 as much as I possibly can, because I'm about to invest. Right. You can buy a building, or you buy a laundromat, or you buy something, I about to invest. Right. You can buy a building or you buy a laundromat or you buy something. I need to know, you go back as far as you possibly can. The revenue that it generates. Okay, has there ever been liens on this property? What's the, okay.
Starting point is 01:17:17 When you buy a house, what you do? You have somebody else, you come do some appraisal or do appraisal of the house. They do a walkthrough of the house. Not just you, you have somebody that doesn't have a vested interest in it to go, okay, give me your assessment. What is the actual value of this property
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