Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: Bears STUN the Packers in OT + Eagles HANDLE Commanders + Miami UPSETS Texas A&M + Ole Miss BLOWS OUT Tulane + Oregon WAXES JMU
Episode Date: December 21, 2025Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Green Bay Packers go on the road to face their rival the Chicago Bears, the Philadelphia Eagles beat the Washington Commanders, and... Ole Miss blows out Tulane to advance to the next round and much more! Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Subscribe to Nightcap presented by PrizePicks so you don’t miss out on any new drops! Download the PrizePicks app today and use code SHANNON to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 lineup! Visit https://prizepicks.onelink.me/LME0/NI... 05:45 - Bears beat Packers25:41 - Eagles beat Commanders36:34 - Miami beats Texas A&M43:22 - Ole Miss beats Tulane53:25 - Oregon beats James Madison (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Caleb Williams hit DJ Moore and who walked it off.
They won the toss.
They elected the Green Bay to have the ball because they wanted to see what they needed.
Green Bay was driving down the field, fumble to snap, and the rest is that.
as they say history.
Yeah.
They had a, got a, there was third and 20,
and the guy grabbed, uh,
Caleb Williams face mask,
gave him life when he really didn't have to do that.
But hey, right.
You're grabbing.
So yeah,
those things happen.
But Caleb Williams, 19 or 34, 250, two touchdowns.
He wasn't sacked and he didn't turn the football over.
DeAndre Swift ran them all 13 times for 58 yards,
Colley, uh, mongot, uh, mana,
man, uh,
Monagai.
Monagai?
Monagai.
Monagai had nine for 50.
Caleb Williams ran the ball three times for 30 yards.
They had 26 rush 150 yards with DJ Moore.
Five for 97 on a big touchdown.
They win this ball game.
They look like they're gonna win this division.
Who would have thought based on what they had last year, Ocho?
But we thought with Ben Johnson coming in,
you picked them to be one of your surprise teams,
them and the Carolina Panthers,
to be one of your surprise teams.
I think they surprised a lot.
I think they're a lot better than people.
They thought they would improve,
but I don't think anybody thought,
given that division with Green Bay and Detroit
still in that division,
Ocho, I don't think anybody had Chicago pick
to win that division.
Just going to show you what the coaching staff,
they brought in some addition,
they revamped the offensive line.
New center in Dalman,
new left guard and Thuni,
new right tackle.
So they revamped the offensive line.
And they got Lovelace,
Loveland, excuse me.
Loveland and the,
the tight end, the first round draft pick.
And he's been phenomenal.
So give the Chicago Bears credit, Ocho.
Jordan Love leaves the game, but Malik Willis did not disappoint.
He played extremely well.
He played very well.
11, 121 yards, threw a touchdown pass, the Romeo Dobbs.
But it was not enough because this was all about the Chicago Bears.
When they needed to get a stop, they got a stop.
They bend, but they didn't break.
They made them settle for a field goal.
And they get, because they can't score a touchdown.
The game's over.
Yes.
But they made them kick a field goal.
They go down the field.
field goal range, kick the field goal, go for the on side.
Romeo Dobbs misplayed it.
And given his concussion history, Ocho, I'm not so sure you want him there
with those kind of collisions.
Right.
Because they're coming.
And they come in with bad intention.
Oh, yeah.
Remember now, Ocho, ain't no helping the hell but on the on side now.
No.
That's a car.
That is a for real car crash.
Yeah, but also you want, you want your players with your best hands and the ones that
you trust the most in those such important situations like that.
you want them on your hands team yeah um also Josh Jacobs you're going in for a
touchdown he formed the football that has been his history he's had a history he's
had a propensity let the ball on the ground no Joe as as we start getting closer and
closer we start in December and we move to more January yes you got to hold on to the
football yes you cannot turn it over the ball is a premium and it cost them and guess what
But we didn't see him anymore.
Yeah, yeah.
We didn't see him anymore.
Listen, Emmanuel Wilson took over from there.
Yeah.
Josh Jacobs, you got to do a better job of holding onto the football.
They know, they know you'll give it up at some point in time,
and they're going to keep hammering at it.
You're good back, but you got to hold on to the football.
Oh, Joe, what did you like about what you saw from Chicago?
Because Green Bay really controlled this game.
Listen, yeah, they control the game.
Really, they controlled the game in its entirety throughout the game.
I really, honestly, I'm going to tell you,
I thought the bear was going to lose.
And going into the fourth quarter,
five minutes left into the fourth quarter,
the game is 16 to 6.
Yep.
I'm like, yeah, that's a two-score game
with only five minutes left on the clock.
So many different things have to go right
for the bears even have a chance to come back.
And those goddamn things that needed to go right,
they went right.
Those things absolutely went right.
The center exchange, the mess up
between Malik Willis and the center.
You can't have that, oh Joe.
Hey, listen, you can't have that.
The starting center and the bear.
and the backup quarterback,
how many snap do they get?
Think about it.
Well, Ocho, but you've got to realize
Malik Willis had been in the game,
so they had taken a lot of them.
They had to think about it.
When Jordan Love went out,
Malik Willis comes in.
Yeah, he comes, yes.
Because I didn't see, I didn't, me,
and I want you to go, Ocho.
I didn't see Jordan Love until they replayed it
where he got helmet to helmet.
Yes.
I didn't see it in real time.
And I was wondering why I could inform down,
I said, why they bring Malik Willis now.
And then when they went back,
they showed it, I was like,
okay, that's why they brought Malik Willis.
see it. But go ahead, Ocho, finish your point. But also, I think that might have been a problem.
You know, you can't blame the weather. You can't blame the weather. I would, I would just say
the fact that even though, even though he wasn't there for a few snaps once Jordan Love went out,
I mean, that center and quarterback exchange and the fact that they haven't had any type of
continuity together that might have played a part in it. Maybe Malik Willis then closed his hands
fast enough. I mean, I don't know. I don't know. Can Jordan Love is taking a thousand
goddamn snaps and it hasn't been one center exchange where there's been an issue. And
all of a sudden there's one tonight.
And obviously, certain things they have to go right,
and that was one of them.
They had to go right in the Bears' favor
for them to even have an opportunity
and a chance to win this game,
including the goddamn onside kick.
When you fall behind, Ocho,
you have to, as the behind team,
you have to do everything right.
Because if they mess it up, Ocho,
how many times have we said,
oh, the game was right there for the taking,
such and such did this, such and such did that,
but you didn't take advantage.
of the opportunity.
So if you're the behind team,
from the time you're behind,
you have to do everything right.
Now, as the team that's in the lead,
you need because all they need
is the momentum because to realize you're on the road.
So what happens, Ocho?
Now of a sudden the crowd gets back in the game.
You've had the crowd at bay for the entirety of the game.
Quiet.
Now all of a sudden you've got 70,000 fans.
They're into it.
And then they stop you on third.
I don't like to call.
I didn't like to call on third.
I think you give the ball.
I think you give the ball to Emmanuel Wilson
and you go ahead and get the first down.
Right.
And look, and I'm, I just hate that offset.
I just hate, but anyway, that's not the here nor there.
But with that being said, Ocho, I think Emmanuel Wilson,
you give him the ball both times and you say,
offensive line, we need one yard.
Yeah.
We need one yard.
Now we get a new set of downs.
They didn't happen.
I think the bearers, the, the bearers, deserves a lot of credit.
Yes.
But Malik Willis showed me something because when I'm looking at him in Tennessee,
we didn't see this Malik Willis.
So it might be something in Tennessee.
Mike Brable was his coach.
They didn't want him.
He looked like a very, very competent quarterback.
He looks like he can be a starter.
I can look around the league and he's better than some people's starters.
Now, it might be the system.
It might be green bait and what they have to offer.
But also, he looks very competent right now.
And you heard what you just said.
It might be the system or it might be what Green Bay has to offer.
You've got to look what he has around him.
Look at what he has surrounding him.
Look at the personnel.
Look at the officer line.
Look at the running back.
Look at the receiving core.
So you're going to look like a competent quarterback when you're playing for a team
from top to bottom that understands how to build a team where you can compete week in
week out.
Of course.
I mean, when's the last Tennessee, when is the last time Tennessee has a team that's
been structurally built from the top to bottom, you know, to be able to compete week to
week. There's a reason they was picking number one in the draft last year. There's a reason why.
So they're not going to look the same. And unless you're Superman, you can't go to a team that's
not structurally built the right way. You've got to be Superman to make them look good, if that
makes sense. Bears take control of the NFC North, Ocho. They're 11 and 4. They're game behind the
Seattle Seahawks that are 12 and 3. But there are two games in front of the Green Bay Packers now.
Well, they're a game and a half because Green Bay has a tie.
Actually, yeah, well, theoretically, that's two games because, you know, they only have four in the loss column and you got one.
You got five in the loss column and one in the tie column.
So there are two games ahead of Green Bay and there are three games in the win column ahead of Detroit.
We'll see what Detroit does tomorrow.
But if they win one of these last two guys, one of their last two ball games, they're going to win the NFC North and they'll be the number.
They have a, there'll be the number two seed.
Oh, yeah.
Can the Eagles be the two seed?
No.
Yet, I guess they theoretically could.
But yeah, I'm talking about Chicago
because Chicago's going to win that division.
The question is, do the Eagles own any tiebreakers over them?
And like if they went out and the Bears lose one of their last two ball games,
does that give them the Eagles enough to jump them?
that'll be very interesting.
Oh, yeah, well, yeah, so that's a moot point.
So all they have to do is win one of their last two games,
and they're the number two seed.
But they're eyeing, they're eyeing potentially that number one seed,
so which is going to be very, very interesting if they have enough,
if they own the tiebreakers over Seattle or the Rams.
But we'll see how that turns out.
But I was very impressed with Chicago
because it seemed like they were meandering,
going through the motion, going through the motion,
and then all of a sudden, Caleb Williams,
this is why they selected them number one overall
because he can just make plays.
He has the ability to make plays on the move.
He can fit the ball in the tight window.
He can throw from the pocket,
but he can throw off his back foot.
He can throw rolling left.
He can throw rolling right.
And they've done a great job of giving him,
you know, DJ Moore, Roma dudes they didn't play.
Zikiyos, Colt & Lublin, Colquette.
They have guys.
Green Bay messed this up in the red,
down there, Ocho, when they went, when they went for it, on, what was that,
four down, they brought the Braun Blitz.
Yes.
It looked like on the left, the right side, like I'm facing to the right side,
it looked like they was going to pass this off.
If he comes in, I'm going to take him, you stay outside.
Yeah.
But it seemed like the outside guy said, oh, damn.
I'm a jump, you got it.
Yeah.
If any, if anything, they should, they should have passed it off.
Because the person, the person, hey, listen, the person going from out of the end,
I mean, once you pass it off, you're already in position.
You're in position.
You're already in position.
You're perfect.
Yeah.
You don't have to worry about anything.
You got everything covered because the guy goes in,
he goes into a guy that's already inside.
Exactly.
And if the guy coming out, you're right there.
You're right there in position and make that play.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think that's what you saw, some of the frustration with somebody like,
how do we, how do we, how do we, see, this is why I can't coach.
Because if you're supposed to pass it off a show, how are we don't practice that?
Now, you don't think they practice that formation against that?
Yeah, absolutely.
Now we get in the game and with the pressure,
and that's what's safe.
Pressure bus piped.
It does.
It does.
You know, lack of communication, that's all.
I'm lack of communication.
And the ball.
I don't need to communicate.
We don't rehearse this.
What do I do?
Ocho, I don't need to tell you to Ocho,
you got to out route.
Right.
We don't really random,
when you've been running the out route,
the whole practice all week long,
Ocho, you've been hitting 10, roll to 12.
Right.
Now all of a sudden, come to game time.
The rubber need to read the roll.
You run the end cut.
You know, just music communication.
We can't have no miscommunication.
Right.
That's the most important time.
That is the difference between good and great.
Yeah.
Because the greats in that moment, they don't succumb to the pressure.
Yeah.
First quarter, he probably all over it.
But he understands what's at stake, Ocho.
Now all of a sudden, what was this big?
All of a sudden, oh.
Oh, yeah, very, very tight.
Now he had a guy, now he ate a bag of lemons.
It's tight on him.
You're right.
That pressure, especially a situation like that, that's what happens.
Absolutely.
Look, Green Bay going to be kicking themselves because we had them dead to right and we had an opportunity.
We had an opportunity to set ourselves in great, great positions.
And we let them off the hook.
Yep.
And you can't, you know what?
You can't blame the quarterback situation.
You can't blame Jordan Love going out because Malik Willis came out and they were able to call the exact same plays, run the exact same.
offense and had the exact same efficiency efficiency as if jordan love was still in so yeah oh no no
no no this is not this not a quarterback where we love yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah this is not a
quarterback issue this is a situation where you squanded too many opportunity you fumble the ball going in
you're going to get points out of that at worst case scenario ocho you're going to get three
and then you had a situation on third down uh i don't know what the play you call and you call
something and greet and uh the bear's had it covered yes um elite willa scrambles and he gets back
to their line of scrimmage and then on fourth down the core the uh the center quarterback
exchange i don't know if i don't know if he took it out because wasn't it wasn't they in the gun
he wasn't on the center wasn't he was in the gun yeah yeah and another thing too can we can you
pull that and see if they were in the gun if he's under center he might have been under center i don't
because all i know is that the back reached down and picked it up and tried to get back but there was
too much penetration you know another thing who deserved credit the bear's kicker i can't
remember what his last name was, but he had a 54, a 51 and a 54.
In those conditions.
Listen, in those conditions with the wind blowing like that.
And the fact that I was watching him, and if the wind was blowing to the right,
he kicked the ball just a smid's far left, so the wind would take,
and do the rest of the work for him.
I'm on the center.
Malie Willis was under center.
Oh, he was?
Okay.
Yeah.
And that's the thing.
We're going to talk about the Miami kicker because I thought in that situation,
I thought they was going to say, hey, if you get the first down, go down and let us walk it off.
But because the kicker had missed and people were like, well, you try kicking in that conditions.
Ocho, the reason why we go out there and warm up is that we can take advantage.
We want to see what our cleats are like.
We want to see what our gloves are like.
The kickers go out there 20 minutes, 30 minutes before us to see what the elements are.
They cook it deep each hash.
They start at like 25 yards.
They go left hash, middle, right hash, X, Y, and Z.
And they back out.
Right.
Go ahead, Ocho.
And the funny thing about it, as a kicker, and I can say this in my, I'm not even joking around, as a kicker, you see the kicker during the game, when you flip sides of the field, you take the grass, you take the grass, you hold it up or whatever you need to do, no, lick your finger, put your finger, so you can see which way the wind is blowing because the weather in the way, in the direction of which the wind is blowing, it changes as a game is going on. It changes. So as a kicker, you're supposed to know that. I don't understand what Miami kicker.
was doing today i don't know this you you adjust to the climate it's it's okay and what do kickers
and punters do they kick on both ends of the field you have to i mean you kick it on one end
then the opposing team is kicking on one end and then you guys flip yes so therefore you know
what it's like kicking in that direction you know it's kicking like in this direction yes so now
the elements and you get a feel yes go out there before we want to test our shoes do we need
are the molding bottom is good enough or do we need to need you
studs.
Right.
The gloves.
What type of gloves do you need?
And all that.
That's why you go out there to feel it.
Yeah.
The quarterbacks go out there to throw because they need to know the conditions.
Yeah.
So we don't just, you know, hey, and Texas N.
Kicker.
So that's, that's, that was that.
But we're going to talk about that game a little later.
Yeah.
But Caleb Williams walks it off with DJ Moore, a back, hey, throwing off his back foot.
But go back and look at Ocho.
He is calm.
I mean, he throws.
ball and puts his hands in his warmers.
Yeah. Hey. Hey, hey, hold on.
That just wasn't any throw.
That was a dot.
No, no, no.
That was a dot in the bread basket.
He didn't have to break stride.
He didn't have to do nothing except put his hands up and make sure he secured the catch.
That was it.
That was a beautiful throw.
And that was a heck of a catch because the guy was all over him.
Yeah.
He was all over him.
He did a hell of a job holding on to that football.
But Kayla, that was a great throw.
was a tremendous win by the Chicago Bears.
They did an unbelievable job of remaining poise,
keeping their cool and finding a way to win this ball game.
That's coaching.
That's coaching.
And that's the belief that we're never out of a ball game.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.
But, you know, turnovers get your beat, Ocho.
Every time.
And that was, you know, that was really the difference in the ball game
because you took points off the board.
And, but Chicago, man, Caleb, hey, they're a young team.
They're, hey, they're going to add some more, they're going to add some more pieces.
I mean, they got a quarterback.
They got a quarterback that they're going to have for the foreseeable future.
Next 10, yeah.
Yep.
So all you got to do is discontinue to do that.
More, you got, like I said, you got Zakias, you got Loveland.
Hey, Walker, Cold Command, DeAndre Swift.
you can run the ball low cho they can they're the number one rushing team and when you can run the football your play action should be exemplary beautiful it makes everything that much easier anytime you can run it makes everything else you want to do offensively easier you running the ball the playbook opens up exponentially absolutely uh well chicago hey they might not have a place to play they might be looking for a venue to play they talk about going to gary and they talk about going outside of the city they talk about going everywhere but
But hey, all I know, you're going to have, wherever you go, right now,
you got a great team to go into that building.
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely.
And I saw those reports about them going to Gary, Indiana.
Uncle, it ain't nothing but a 30-minute drive from Chicago, from downtown.
You know what, Ocho, it's just that you got to think about how long you've been at Soldier Field.
Right.
I mean, it's, you know, just something about the monsters or the midway.
Right.
But, hey, teams are moving.
You see, there's a Kansas City.
they're thinking about moving out moving theirs they get you know these these lawmakers
talking about hey we got a billion dollars come on out here go where uh they're trying to
move to Missouri right oh oh same whoa Kansas City okay hold on hey you know you listen my
geography is kind of off now how far is Kansas City away from Missouri don't start
me to line aren't they trying to move aren't they trying to move them out of
Missouri to Kansas City or the other way around?
So they're moving them out of Missouri to Kansas.
Okay.
Yeah.
So, but.
Good city, Kansas, right.
So, look, and the thing is, what we're seeing is that these owners, although they're
billionaires, they're trying to spend as little as possible on these new stadium.
Yeah.
Maybe, you know, you think like, okay,
somebody's going to give us a sweetheart deal, blah, blah, blah,
because everybody ain't got money like a Stan Cronkey.
Stan Cronk and say, I'm leaving St. Louis.
I'm going to have a big, I got a billion dollars in escrow.
It costs money to move.
You have to play the league to move to relocate, don't you?
Absolutely.
I understand it.
I understand it, you know, economically, you know, financially.
I mean, what it does when they have to move,
what owners need to be able to move.
Yes.
And Stan is in a different situation
to everybody else.
Do you understand how many franchises, Stan Owms?
Outside of just the goddamn Rams?
Mm-hmm.
Man, listen.
The album, the nuggets?
Yeah.
Arsenal?
Yeah.
You know what's the...
I think you're on Arsenal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Listen, I would...
If, hypothetically speaking,
as much as I love the game of soccer,
you know who would have been the first person
to play for the Rams and for Arsenal?
Who?
Who?
Who? Okay.
Yeah.
I don't know, Joe.
I've never seen nobody play two sports and that was sports.
I mean, we see baseball, basketball, baseball, football, football, basketball, football, baseball.
That cross over there.
I would have been the first one.
I would have been a gunner and I would have been a ram.
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Yeah.
Yeah, but see, all he does is kick.
See, Ocho used to do it with hands,
so they're going to kick that ball,
and Ocho going to catch it unless he's going to be a goalie.
But I thought Brandon, as he was mentioned,
Brandon Albrey, I watched him in the, and, uh, UFL,
and he had a leg, he was booming it.
He'd been doing that, boy.
He'd been doing it.
But, uh, the Bears stay atop the NFC North,
thanks to a 2216 overtime victory over the Green Bay.
Packers.
Oh, Cho, the Eagles beat the commanders by the score of 29 to 18.
Nick Sarion and said his team wasn't trying to run the score
against Washington with a two-point conversion late to give him a 17-point lead.
But as the play ended, a fight broke out on the field, resorting in three players being ejected.
Limer Tyler Steen and the commander's defensive end, Javon Kenlaw and Kwan Martin.
Ocho, did you like the moves by the Eagles?
Yeah.
Yeah.
damn near
you know what I like about the Eagles that you know
they were able to do today on that they haven't been able to do
all year successfully
consistently they were able to run the ball
they were able to run the ball
Sequin had 21 carries he had a TD
he had 132 yards
Janet Hurst through the air
I mean he was okay 22 for 30
two TDs for 165
185 but my eyes so bad
damn my eyes so bad oh yeah
he had 185
I mean it was cool they did what needed to
be done to get the job
done the day.
He had a couple drop passes, too.
AJ dropped a couple of the day.
Yeah.
Devonte dropped a couple of the day.
Yeah. Yeah.
And so his staff probably, I don't,
they weren't like huge yardage,
but he could have had a couple of more touchdowns today.
Yeah, yeah, a few more.
And you know what, there was really no threat.
At no point in the game where the command is a threat to the Eagles at all.
The Eagles were really able to have their way and do,
do everything they wanted to do,
whether it was through the air, whether it was through the ground,
And, I mean, it was, it was a winnable game and a game they should have won and they did just that.
The Eagles need to get their kicking situation resolved.
I'm right here, uh-huh.
Elliot, Elliot, Elliott is not automatic like he once was, Ocho.
And you know in the playoffs, it comes down.
It matters.
These games are one possession game.
And a lot of times, it's a field goal that the difference in that possession.
Yes.
And, hey, hey, aunt, I'm telling you, you got somebody right here with a friend.
leg you know I'm good from 70 I'm not just good from 70 I'm good from 70
consistently I'm good from 60 50 40 30 after field goals P-A-T I mean that's what I
do seriani if you need someone if you need someone like me if you need some
what's up baby a vacuum who spills something stop eat go pick the prunes up
and don't take no more food in that room yeah go yeah I mean no I mean I mean I mean
just I mean there's there's no way you can get a kicker right now not not this time because
anyone that's available is the reason why they're available you well hey what you call them
available I don't know if they're looking at him I mean he had two trials Justin Tucker
oh I forgot I forgot tuck you know hey you're going to have to block you're going to have
to block out the noise yeah I mean and what you know what comes along yeah he had a couple
see he had a couple of trials we'll see you know when our one our favorite kickers is
available who that young hook who cool
Yeah, I think after Youngway, after he missed the whole ball,
it's going to be tough for him to get back.
Yeah, you think that, yeah, yeah.
It's unfortunate.
He did.
But the Eagles, the Eagles, the Eagles, 26 first downs, they got three first down.
They were only four, they were four nine from on third down.
I mean, they possessed the ball 34 minutes.
Like you said, and then Marcus Mardiota looked like he dislocated a finger or something.
And they bought Johnson in, don't you know, there's been 32 teams in the NFL.
He's been on damn there 20 of them.
Yeah.
I mean, at that point in time, you know all, there was no chance.
Right.
That the commanders were going to mount anything as far as a comeback.
Right.
there's a reason why a guy
and I thought Josh McCown
had been on a bunch of teams
right
hey he ain't got no room
for nobody else's jerseys
he got all his jerseys on his wall in the basement
yeah yeah yeah
how many teams have he been on Ash
he's got to been on like 13 to 14-0-0-cho
so he's in the same boat with um
god damn
um
who um Fitzpatrick
oh he's been on way more teams
he's doubled he done doubled
Fitzpatrick
Josh McCown has been on a bunch of teams.
He doesn't got, he didn't pay,
he way past Josh McCown.
Okay.
He doesn't been on like 13, 14 teams.
Okay.
Damn.
I'm trying to think.
I could have swore.
He's been on Washington twice.
A total different teams.
In how many years?
Only eight, that's it?
Well, he had two stints with Washington.
How many of Josh McCown and Fitzpatrick been on?
Because I know Fitzpatrick was with the Jets.
He's with Buffalo.
He's with Miami.
I think he's with Cincinnati.
I think he's with the Texans.
And Fisb, hey, everywhere Fiskeld and he'd be dealing that thing, boy.
Just know you ain't going to the playoffs.
He's going to be fancy, but you ain't going to the playoffs.
Right.
Josh McCown's been on 11 teams
Okay
But he played like 20 years, didn't he?
I think he played like 20 years, Ocho
Yeah
He's somewhere, he's coaching now
He's a quarterback coach in Minnesota
I just saw him rare recently
I think he's a quarterback coach in Minnesota
Don't be surprised
Because remember he got interview for a job
Yeah, don't be surprised
Don't be surprised if he get a job
I mean, can you, can you still be the Chicago Bears if you play in, if you play in another state?
Hmm.
Oh.
Hey.
If you're in Indiana, can you still be called the Chicago Bears?
Yeah.
Because it's not that far.
You still, you still.
Gary in the end you know that's a good question huh
hey listen that's a great question
even though it's so close
well I guess they say well
theoretically the Giants they don't play in New York
they play in Jersey yeah so
and they still call them to New York Giants
yeah it makes sense
it makes sense
do you think they were tried you had a problem
with them going for two
no
you
I don't know what the purpose was
I mean whatever play that you ran
Ocho right I'll save it for a ready day
I'm damn sure not breaking it out now
if I'm already beating the team
by the score of which we beat them
yeah and probably just want to try something
they probably worked on it
they worked on you heard what you call them
said though you say we'll see them in two weeks
who said that I'm telling
now you're going to get guys going out there
you hey oh you want to run this go up okay
right they're going to cheap shot you
they're going to do all that stuff
Hey, stop it.
If you don't like it, stop it.
Uh, it's going to be interesting.
It's going to be a lot of fights.
I mean, you got, you saw the fight happen when you went for two.
Oh, yeah.
So you, so you know what's coming when you, when we go to Philly.
Oh, yeah.
Hold on.
I'm going to have a little extra to it now.
And they play it, they play again in what?
Two weeks.
Oh, yeah.
Well, it, it ain't going to be no different.
It ain't, ain't going to be no different.
you don't have enough horse power.
I love, I love the commanders.
You don't have enough horse power
to compete with the Eagles right now.
Even as up and down
and as inconsistent as they've been all year long,
you don't have enough horsepower.
You don't.
They would have, they would have to just lay down.
Nah, they're not going to lay down
because they got to play
because they're trying to get, you know,
you try to, obviously you won the division
so you're going to get a home playoff game.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, okay, I'm going to add a little sauce to it.
So y'all want to be out here.
Y'all want to go for two?
Don't worry about it.
We got something for that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Hey, you saw early in the game how they stole on DJ Moore?
Oh, you noticed that?
Yeah, I noticed it.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
He has nothing to do with the plate.
Yeah, I thought you would have missed that.
No, hell, no, I saw it.
I got something for y'all.
Did you just say, see what you get?
That's what y'all get for trying to cheap shop.
Yeah, let me send y'all home.
Let me send y'all home, the right way.
But the Eagles, this is the first time and a long time.
When was the last time we had back-to-back champs in the NFC East?
Had to be like 20 years that's been different.
You know, it's been the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles, the Eagles,
Cowboys, Eagles, Cowboys, Eagles, but now we finally have a back-to-back
NFC champ.
And the Cowboys are officially eliminated from the postseason.
Ah, damn.
Damn.
It's been two decades since we've had a back-to-back division champion in NFC East.
Well, that's a long, that's a long 20 years.
Right.
Last time was 2004, Ocho.
Sierra honestly said we did what we thought was the best interest.
To go up one more point in my mind is not running up the score.
Eagles right tackle Fred Jones says,
I guess they were upset we went for two.
But I don't give a F.
It's football.
You can't control what the next person does.
Absolutely right.
Siriana job is to coach your team.
Let Dan Quinn coach the commanders.
That's it.
I mean, they're going to start complaining about everything.
First is the push push.
They want to get the touch push plan.
Next thing you know, they're going to start complaining about people going for two point.
They're going to try to get the goddamn two point conversion ban.
Listen, they don't matter what the other team is running.
Your job is to call to play defensively and the job for the players is to stop the goddamn play.
That's it.
You're running up the goddamn score, man.
Come on that.
You see they calling them guards for false starting at Tush.
pushing our thing. Yeah, yeah, they call it. I'm like,
bro, they've been doing it. Oh, yeah. They've been jumping to snap. Yeah, they got an eye on it,
nato. Absolutely. Mm-hmm. Oh, Joe, three of the...
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Slopiest windest quarters in recent football college history followed by an incredible
dramatic fourth quarter.
It looked like Tatsus A&M was going to force overtime or score and potentially go for two
like we saw with the Seattle Seahawks Duke on Thursday.
denied, but Bryce Fitzgerald picked off Marcel Reed
in the end zone with 23 seconds left.
A Miami's defensive lineman Ruben Bayne, Jr.
put together a performance for the 80s.
Bain had four tackles for losses, three sacks,
and a blocked field goal.
You know, just scanning, he's the best college football.
He's the best D-Lyman that I've seen this year.
Yes.
But hey, maybe there's some other guys out there.
Ocho, the only thing with Marcel, bro,
that you cannot throw, you got to throw that guy open.
There was a window.
late yeah super late super late trying to aim it and obviously uh when you're that close
when you that when you're that close to the end zone but you got to let that ball go early because
you're running out of goddamn real estate not only not only you're not early you throwing the ball
behind him anyway so it makes it that it make it that easier for the for the young freshmen who
had a second pick of today to send you home and end the game oh it was a it was the deep as the game
today, Unk. It was the defensive game with plays being made and sprinkled out. Malachi
Tony, boy, he's special, Unk. They call him down here at the crib, Unk. We call him baby Jesus.
We call him baby Jesus for a reason. Man, listen, he was special. I was kind of upset. I was kind of
saddened for him. When he fumbled the ball, he fumbled the ball. Maybe with the sideline had
his head down and seeing his teammates, Mark Fletcher, man, Mark Fletcher was tote in that rock today,
You were.
He was.
He was a totaled net rock today.
He had 172, and I had a lot of people say,
well, hell, if the hurricanes were running the ball like that,
why did you just do that the entirety of the game?
Just keep running the ball until they stop it.
Man, Carson Beck.
Hey, he ain't had that kind of game.
He ain't had that kind of year.
You're talking about that kind of game.
Oh, bad.
He was, ooh.
It was bad, huh?
He did the right thing.
getting up out of Georgia.
Oh, yeah.
He's going to be on the bench behind Stockton.
You think so?
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Those two interceptions really, really killed them.
I mean, Texas and them, they really couldn't run the football.
They had 35 rushes, Ocho, for 89 yards.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean.
It was a defensive game.
Yeah.
You sprinkle in some drops, you know, a fumble here.
Miami came to play.
Oh, yeah.
hostile environment you know i think miami's office is kind of challenged because of the
quarterback play i think they got some skill position players that can oh yeah they got yes uh 10 to
three um but they got it right i mean they got it right i i think my miami deserve to be there
yes um they got the who does miami miami play oh ohio state ohio state listen they think they're
going to have to come to the party man okay they're going to
We're going to talk about this a little later, Ocho.
Oregon beat James,
beat James Madison, beat the brakes off of them.
That wasn't even interested.
So Oregon is at, plays Texas Tech.
Alabama plays Indiana.
Ole Miss plays Georgia.
This was a game that went down to the wire earlier this year.
Ole Miss was in control of this game and Georgia came back and won.
And do you play Ohio State?
So, hey, are you, UM can't play like this?
against Ohio State, aren't?
They can't play like this.
Offensively, they can't play like this.
Not going to happen.
Carson Beck, boy, you got a, you got to pull it.
Because Ohio State got a defense boy, they get after you.
Yeah, but who you tell?
They got some guys going to go high in the draft.
They can get after you.
Yeah.
They can get after you.
Carson Beck's going to have to have to play the game of his life.
Oh, yeah.
Because I don't know, I don't know.
And Miami has a great defense on, you don't, don't, they play.
They're not.
They're here for a reason.
We're not selling them.
short no but they uh ohio state has an offense the question is cars and beck and quarterback can
he crack ohio state's defense yeah i mean you know what you know for cars and back honestly
it makes it easy because he has a receiving cause to do that he has a supporting cast now i mean
you you know the comparison people say carnell taiton and jeremiah smith there's nothing like
that they're over there at um but um they got some some homegrown boys that's straight here from day
county yeah that can play some ball on they can he protect him oh that that that too
because i don't care about your receiver if your offensive line can't hold up because
ohio state got some guys can get it can get out to the quarterback absolutely absolutely
it's going to be a good one it's going to i just know offensively then boys going to have to show up
all of them yeah but this game i mean texas nm they i mean they let the they let the uh they lose
the texas you know last game of the season
season and now miss an opportunity to go to the S&C championship game and then they lose.
Look, there's a lot to be proud of, but there's a lot, there's some disappointment.
Because you never want to lose your last two games.
And they didn't play their best football.
Marcia Reed's got to do a better job and throw in the football.
I don't know what he's going to do.
I don't know if he's coming back.
He probably could use another year in college if he has it, Ocho.
Yeah.
He's got to do a better job.
You've got to have better anticipation because as Ocho said, when the feel is condensed,
you got to realize where do you think the guy's going everything everything speeds up on
i'm just saying that window was open you got to throw him throw him and let him go get to the
ball because if you even if even if you're not that far behind him you're going to give the db a chance
because he can't back pedal out of the end zone yeah what do you think he's going yeah and and
i can't i can't remember the safety's named the young freshman he played it so well too
just just the route in general how he he he set his feet in the ground he didn't
didn't back up anywhere.
No.
He held his ground and broke right on it.
He broke right on it.
He can't because if I, if I stand right where I am,
you're going to have to run over me or go behind me.
One of the other.
If I backped up, I'm going to be out of the end zone and you cut cross my face.
Yeah.
So I, hey, I'm already eight yards deep in the end zone on your show.
Where do I need to go?
Yeah.
Now where it's not a, it's not a field play where you have to get some depth because
they might throw the ball over you.
you have no choice yeah yeah yeah they put them all over your head they're gonna be in
lubbick yeah he played he played it really he played it really he played it he played it
perfect he played it perfect but my the you moves on take on ohio state uh uh oh miss beat
talyn 4010 oh cho i know to lane but hey oh miss team looked very good today lane kiffin
made $250,000 even though he's not
coaching right uh uh look i thought lane allowing some of the coaches that he took with him
yes to go back there and coach to help pete golden um who's a defense coordinator right um the question
is before we talk about this game if they win a national championship does lane get a national
championship ring also absolutely absolutely because he was he was a part he was he got he
Listen, hey, listen, he was a part, he's a reason, and he was a part of that team just before leaving.
It was a huge part of their success.
Huge part of their success.
And, I mean, Unk, you got to remember who they play in today, Unk.
You got to remember who they're playing today.
It's nothing to clap about, nothing to be, you know, be excited about.
I call it, that would be a tune-up game for what's real and for what's to come.
That ain't about nothing.
Uh, Trinidad Chamblis, 23 or 29, 282, one touchdown.
Austin Simmons came in, played well.
He fumbled the ball right before the half, but they're about to get points out of that.
They ran the ball 34 times for a buck 51.
Uh, Kiwan Lacey, 15 carries, uh, 87 yards.
I mean, Ocho, they scored with like, if it is like three plays with 50 seconds.
Yeah.
Game was over.
It wasn't even, I mean, look, you could just see the difference.
You know, my grandfaces always say, boy, just because you got the fastest donkey,
that don't mean you deserve an invite to the Kentucky Derby.
Now, you got a fast-ass donkey.
Yeah, now we're talking.
Tulane got a good thing.
But Tulane need to play.
Tulane should have been playing James Madison in the boat.
Now, that's a good game.
That's a good match.
That would have been a good game.
Because at no point in time did anybody think Tulane was going to beat in this ball game.
Nobody thought the same thing with James Madison.
It's over 34-6 at the half.
Game was over.
And people were looking at it, man, that game was in it.
No, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
That wasn't even closed.
They got to come up with the system.
They got to come up with Vanderbilt.
Vanderbilt, Texas, would have been better in this.
You notice I ain't mentioned Notre Dame.
Right.
Until they get to the conference, they did the right thing.
Stay y'all ass home, crying.
We ain't going to a bowl game.
And ain't nobody missing you.
Right.
But, uh,
41 to 10.
It's crazy.
41 to 10.
41, Ocho.
You knew that was going to happen, though.
Anybody that understands.
Well, everybody knew that was happening except the committee.
Okay, if they're top 10, okay, Ocho, we put them in.
But come on now.
Come on.
Y'all know this is not the same now.
Y'all know James Madison and Tulane doesn't have the same caliber of player as
Ole Miss and Oregon.
So what did you expect to happen?
I mean, listen, they understood what was going to happen.
They understood what was going to happen, but they,
they were deserving based on what they did throughout the season.
Oh, Joe, you got to look at who they're playing.
Okay, if you put Tulane in the SEC, you think they're going to have this record?
Well, they're going to be O for, huh?
Okay, you put them in the Big Ten.
They're going to have this record.
Yeah, they might go five hundred.
You're not playing comparable opponents.
You play it, come on now.
Yeah, I'm listening.
I'm watching when you're right.
I ain't going to hog at the point.
I'm watching when you're right.
And it's a great story.
It is.
Hey, we went to the college football playoff one year.
And you can sell recruits that.
But after this asswhip and y'all took,
it's going to be hard for y'all to get back in their game.
You're going to need to be, you're going to probably need to be a 30.
Oh, can you want lost three games?
So lost 50 one today.
So you came in 11 and 2.
You're going to need to be 13 and 0.
You're going to have to be in the top 10.
We can't be putting teams in.
Come on now.
Come on.
We got to be real about this.
There's a, there, and y'all.
Okay, if Tulane, if y'all would schedule one of these SEC teams?
Because I think they played Ole Miss.
Didn't they play Ole Miss this year?
I think it was the second time they played Ole Miss.
Okay, now they beat them 41 to 10.
Hey, well, you're...
So they beat you...
They beat you...
86 to 20.
Two times.
Hey, that's like you get beat up.
You go home and you tell your mom
you had a fight and you got beat up
and she's seen you back out the house.
Go back and fight him again.
He whip your ass again.
Nah, hey, he beat you so bad.
You don't go out there and you fight him.
You don't fight him.
You don't have to fight me.
Well, Mama, I'm going to have to whip you though.
That did you told me up.
Mama, you got to take it.
Hey, that's hell.
Yeah. I mean, come. I get it. Like, you know, they's like, okay, we got to find ways for, for the, the, I guess like a mid major, they're not a mid major, Ocho, but I'm saying they're not a pot. There's, there's levels to this. There's levels. Yeah, it is. And this is. Just because, look, the committee knows that, huh? They know that. So I'm not, listen, I'm not sure how the voting goes. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
not sure who those are that control
the voting, but they saw fit
to allow Tulane
to be in. They saw
fit to allow James Madison
to be in. Well, the
rubs rolled the hell out that wave.
You knew. They
rolled the hell out that wave. I mean,
that ain't that supposed to be. That wave
and the old miss, you know, they ain't got
nowhere to be riding no waves in no Mississippi.
I guess they're getting that dirty ass with Mississippi River.
But anyway,
Olez rode the hell out that green wave.
Look, you got some nice gifts.
I wonder what the gift bag was.
You probably got some headphones and some nice gear and stuff like that.
The school got a little check, too, right?
Yeah.
Huh?
I guess they, yeah, I'm sure they do.
I'm sure they got a little money.
Okay, okay, okay.
They probably get, they probably got $1,500.
And you have the local barbers, the local barbers of Mississippi,
come cut the teams here and everything like that.
That's what they normally do, Ocho.
That's it?
Yeah, I mean, you could get your nice temper fade
or whatever you want to do if you got,
I guess you've got braids.
They'll have people come braids your hair.
But this, come on, man.
And listen, I'm not saying that couldn't happen to a Power 5 team.
I'm not saying, I guess the Power 4 is now.
I ain't more Power 5.
But anyway, I'm not saying that that can't happen.
But when you look at, but look at the Power 5.
And people, I know everybody's going to say, well, look what Georgia did to TCU.
TCU kicked Michigan to ask to get there.
Yeah.
If Tulane had to beat Alabama or Vanderbilt or Texas or Texas tank,
you know, if somebody, Ohio State, sign me up.
You got you, boy.
It makes sense.
It makes sense, yeah.
Man, you can't be beating them teams like that.
Oh, man.
But, uh,
And that's the thing.
It'd be interesting to see.
I didn't hear it because, well, Coach Saban was on today.
It would have been interesting.
What did Coach Saban have to say?
Did you hear what he had to say, Ocho?
Because I'm sure he wasn't, because he wasn't too pleased to begin with.
Right.
He's like, because the level of competition that you played and to get this invite,
I think he compared, I think I read, he compared it to a minor league team,
a AAA team, winning a bunch of games and getting an opportunity to play for the World Series.
Yeah.
Get an opportunity to go into the playoffs,
you know, the big guy.
Yeah, that makes sense.
That makes sense.
But weight classes, there's a reason why we have all these things.
There's a difference.
And just because you're good, that doesn't mean you're the best at it.
No.
So, oh, man, they're 11 and 2.
Okay, and?
Regardless, right?
You think Tulane is better than Vanderbilt?
Yeah, absolutely.
You think Tulane is better than Tennessee, Texas?
No, absolutely not.
Listen, there's a reason they have,
way class like you said also in college football there's there's levels on there's levels
to it and you see the discrepancy and the difference in levels when you have some of the smaller
schools playing some of the bigger schools regards to what your record shows the play is different
the skill gap is different the quality of players you get is different yeah and it showed
there's a reason why the SEC and the big 10 put more
more players in the NFL than any other conferences.
There's a reason why.
Yeah, absolutely.
If you just take the Big Ten and you take the SEC
and you take all the other conferences,
you take the ACC, you take the Big 12,
you take the Sunbelt, you take the AAC,
you take whatever, they still don't.
Because when you look at it,
I mean, they're putting 40 guys,
they're putting 40 guys, the SEC putting 40 guys,
the Big Ten putting 30 guys,
35, 40 guys.
That's crazy.
A year.
Come on, man.
That's crazy.
And Texas, I'm sure Sark is like, man.
These jokers got an opportunity to get their ass kick.
Texas was playing good at the right time.
Vanderbilt playing good at the right time.
Timing is everything.
Oregon.
Blast James Madison by the score of 50.
51 to 34, James Madison Dukes, making their playout debut,
played well on offense.
The game 509 yards and scored 34 points despite leaving a couple of points on the board.
Man, this game wasn't even close.
No, not at all.
And listen, don't let the end game or the end score fool you now.
Well, it was 34-6 and a half.
Yeah.
I sit out like, well, how much more of this game do I need to watch?
They tell my, man, go watch the Bears Packers.
uh the bra uh lebron they're about to the laker game about to come right i mean at one point
wasn't it 48 it was 48 to something 48 to yeah 23 48 to 20 something yeah it was bad it was
bad i mean there's no there's no way there's no way that james madison they don't they don't
they don't they ain't got enough rocks in their back pocket even even with organ on it's not
even fair but one as you know games are won and lost right up front yeah that a lot of
alone right there you don't have a chance you don't have a chance that's that's all that was
was a tune-up game you know our boxes boxes boxers have tune-up fights and most of the time when you
have a tune-up fight is somebody that they know you are better than and all you're doing you're
trying you're just working on your stuff that's all yeah that's all it was I mean you look at
that I mean you look at that like man and they had 500 yards of offense man that thing was
so out of the day's like, look, let's not get anybody hurt.
Right.
We got a game next week or in two weeks or whenever they play.
But it's, uh, I don't know, committee.
You got to rethink how y'all do things.
And I understand, take the 12 best teams.
Take the 12 best teams.
Not necessarily 12.
ranked team you think so a committee or can you honestly say that James Madison and
Tulane are better are better than Texas Vanderbilt and Notre Dame I got no love
loss for Notre Dame do it do you actually believe that James Madison and Tulane are
better than the three teams I just mentioned no absolutely not and the people that
the people that are part of the committee they know that but the criteria
that they judge on
that they base everything off of
on who gets in and who doesn't
I mean the criteria is
what's messed up
because there ain't no way in hell
ain't no way in hell
James Madison
Oregon like come on now
come on now
O lane
I mean two lane
oh man come on now
you have better team
that could have been in
regards to whether they had
two or three losses or not
you know
that would have given us
better games to watch.
It would have been better competition.
And Texas is a bigger draw
than James Madison or Tulane.
Vanderbilt would have been a bigger draw.
Notre Dame would have been a bigger draw
because you said it's about money.
This was, this was,
they missed on this one, don't you?
Yeah, they did.
They missed on this one.
They definitely did.
They need to do a better job
because this was,
So, oh, my goodness.
I don't really know what to say.
I mean, at, Ocho, I can't, I can't, I mean,
how many people do you think turn the game at halftime?
346.
What, what am I watching?
What am I, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what
is going to happen?
I mean, people, people.
May, that this, ugh.
The only people that are watching, honestly.
Yeah, they put those, there's a reason why ESPN passed those games of T&T.
Oh.
That's a good one.
It ain't no accident.
Mm-mm.
It is not an accident.
It's,
I don't know, Chad.
I'm sorry, guys, that you had to watch James Madison.
And congratulations to those schools.
Hey, it's a hell of an accomplishment.
It's a hell of an accomplishment.
But it's just like, Ocho, with the HBCUs
and you win your tournament and you get,
guess who they give you?
They give you Duke.
Yeah.
They give you North Carolina.
They give you Kansas.
Mm-hmm.
They give you Kentucky.
Mm-hmm.
Hey, you better put your big boy bridges on.
And good ball.
Oh, Joe.
Adam Shepter just gave us an update on T.J.
Watt, after missing two games due to a partially collapsed lung,
Watts returned to play remains murky and uncertain.
Watts' focus has been getting healthy from his partially collapsed lung,
returning to play as secondary.
And he's not,
and that's not been his focus.
Darkness will assess how he feels next week to see if there's even a chance to play in week 17.
but ideally, Watt gets more time to recover from his lung injury
that resulted in him being ruled out Sunday game versus Detroit.
Pittsburgh has got their fingers crossed saying,
I hope he don't sue us.
Eh, knowing him, I don't really see a player.
No, they gave him money.
They gave $100,000, $809 million fully guaranteed.
He's straight.
He's good.
He good.
Because it's the same thing that happened to, remember, Tyraud.
Tyraud Taylor.
What did you put the charges?
Because the charges.
Yeah.
He has some rib issues in the preseason.
He got a thing injected and they punctured his lung.
He sued him.
If I'm not mistaken, I think he won.
Don't quote Bill that.
I believe it is by what I read that, you know, he did file a suit.
Can we look that up to make sure?
Because I did think he filed a suit.
Hey, just thinking about that needle going through the skin.
Now, that don't bother me.
That don't bother me at all because I had to get shot up at halftime
because I was cramping in my calf.
The only thing that bothers me and it's cringy
is the fact that them going in the ribs
and then actually puncturing the lung.
That's the part that doesn't sit well with me.
Because you got, what did you say?
When you do dry needleing and they got to move it around?
Well, dry kneeling is that they're trying to,
you know, they're trying to get blood flow in there.
And they, you know, it's kind of like,
I mean, you've seen James Harrison get all those acupuncture
where he's looking like pinhead.
He's got his whole back, his legs, ass, calves, everything.
I wasn't no, I wasn't no, I wasn't no big fan of acupuncture.
I did it one time, man, that thing hurt worse than them needles than getting injected.
I was like, no more of this for me.
I'm good, Cud.
Is that bad?
For me?
Now, some people say it didn't bother them, but I, and I was like, I did, I'm good.
Yeah.
I'm good.
I want to, I'm going to, but I, I, I want to see what that's,
like uh i think it's going to be very hard i think more probably more probable than not
that all things being equal ocho if the pittsburgh steelers make the playoffs i think that's
probably when we'll see j jay because that lung's going to have to inflate back up yeah
oh i just don't like the way that sound boy yeah
Okay.
Pungshut long.
So,
well, I guess they're saying
that he got his salary.
Yeah.
So that's why, you know, it's going to trial.
But he said, well, I had incentives too.
I could have reached.
Because that's when they had drafted Justin Herbert
and he was going to be the starter.
But he gets hurt, Justin Herbert plays out of his mind's rookie
at a year.
Because Herbert and Chase,
came in the same year.
Yep.
Yeah.
So, he's like, I could have played and potentially got more as a starter somewhere else.
He should have sued for more.
But hey, they'll figure it out.
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