Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Ben Johnson Bears, Travis Hunter Browns?, Lamar road block

Episode Date: January 22, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to a wild weekend of AFC and NFC Divisional playoffs. Top stories include the Chicago Bears finalizing a contract with Ben Johnson to be the next HC, Heisman winner Travis Hunter's NFL future could be in Cleveland, time is ticking for Baltimore Ravens QB Lamar Jackson’s Super Bowl hopes and much more!03:10 - Ben Johnson will be the newest head coach of the Bears09:41 - Travis Hunter going to the Browns?12:35 - Ravens vs. Bills28:47 - How many chances will Lamar Jackson get?34:46 - What’s the problem in Dallas?42:10 - Eagles vs. Rams(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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has agreed to a deal to become the Chicago Bears next head coach. Johnson has been the Lions offensive coordinator for the past three seasons. And if I'm not mistaken, I think they finished in the top five in offense each of those seasons. He will fill the job vacated by Matt Ibrifluce when they fired him on November 29th. Johnson will become the 19th head coach in French, the 105 year franchise existence.

Ocho, do you like the hire? You got damn right. I like the hire. You got damn right. Now listen, we talk about Ben Johnson now. We talk about Ben Johnson that worked wonders with Jared golf, worked wonders offensively with that offense, the creativity that is amazed all of us all season long. Now you know, Dan Campbell loves to go forward on fourth down. Why do you think he's so confident in doing some of the things he does as a head coach because of Ben Johnson and what he's able to do. So I look at it from this standpoint, you got Jameson Williams, you got Amon

Ross Lane Brown, you got the portal. Now you go to another supporting cast in Chicago that different skill sets, but they get the job done very well. Right. You have a great quarterback, dual threat quarterback who's a little bit more mobile, a little bit more agile, can play off script a little better than golf. And Kaden Williams, he's a good thrower of the ball as well.

This is going to be a perfect relationship, not only for Ben Johnson, but for Kaden William and his career. I guarantee you, and I'm gonna put it out there right now, and it's gonna be a I told you so moment when the season starts and we're about, we're in about maybe week seven or week eight, and I'm gonna be like out there right now and it's gonna be I told you so moment when the season starts and we We're about we win about maybe week seven or week eight number be like I told you so Kate Williams being one of the top quarterbacks in the league statistically because of Ben Johnson and his creativity in his office of prowess Watch I like to hire. Yeah, I like to hire. Yeah, but what I don't like but

I like to hire also, but what I don't like, Chicago and New England doing that fake stuff, bring black coaches in there when they know damn well they're not gonna hire them. They brought Eddie George in there, and you know, look, you gotta take it. Yeah, yeah. You know damn well they want, excuse me, but you know good and D well,

you know good and D well. You know good and D well. You wanted Ben Johnson. But Ocho, hey, the Rooney rule, I gotta get that quote. Same thing in New England. Y'all brought two blacks, y'all brought Pep Hamilton in. Y'all brought this other black. You know good and well. Byron Lefvage.

First of all, Byron Lefvage been out of the league for what, two years. And y'all gonna bring him in. Now he ain't got no office or court, but Y'all know good first of all Byron Lefvage been out of the league for what two years? Mm-hmm, and y'all gonna bring him in now. He ain't got no office according to what y'all brought him in Yeah, and see y'all what y'all did the Patriots did that thing so good. They brought two of them in Yeah, I mean listen they have to check the box some they think they got it they could they got a check the boxes Like you said, they got it. You got to meet the quota. You have to satisfy the rule that's in place that's really not working. Ain't got no tea to it. Look, I like to hire. I like Ben Johnson. I like what he did. You mentioned it. He has a quarterback that's more mobile. He has very good look. You got Roman Doomsday, they took it the first round for the Bears. You got DJ Moore that you signed to a contract extension. You got Kenan Allen, I think Kenan Allen's a free agent, so you probably bring him back

because he came on strong at the end of the year. He's that guy that he's not as fast, is not as quick as Amon Ra in the slot, but he gets it done. He got tremendous moves, he got great hands. I like him, he's a big body. He can body you up. So I like that. I like that. I don't really know they're running by situation. You're going to have to improve the offensive line because that's one thing. The offensive line and you're going to probably get better because you look at

what they got in Detroit. You know, you got Penesul, who's a pro bowler, all pro. You got Zeidler, you got Glassmow, you got Decker, you got Penesul, who's a pro bowler, all-pro. You got Zeitler, you got Glassmow, you got Decker, you got Ragnar, you got, you know, Detroit has a very good offensive line. And so you're gonna have to get that up the par in Chicago because your quarterback took 60-plus sacks. That's too many, Ocho. That's way too many sacks.

Now, all of it is not on the offensive line. Caleb Williams gonna have to do a better job of getting rid of the football. It's okay to throw it away. Because sometimes I think, guys, they get caught up, Ocho, well, I'm gonna mess up my completion percentage. Bro, throw that damn ball away. You don't want to be taking all those hits.

Right, right. But I like the hire. I'm sure they got money and cap space that they can improve this team. I love the hire by Ben Johnson. I got no qualms about that hire. He's put his time in as an offensive coordinator, as an offensive coach. I think it was the right time for him to get this job. So I really like the hire.

I'm a little surprised that he went in the same division. As his former boss normally, they get away, Ocho. But hey, that was the best situation. I always thought that the Bears, for me, that was the best situation that was available. To me, I mean, other people, people like the Raiders, cause Tom Brady didn't play a quarterback. Ain't nothing to work with over there, huh?

Ain't nothing to work with over there. Ain't got no quarterback. Yeah, so you understood that that was the best fit, especially for him and what he bring to the table. so you understood that that was the best fit, especially for him and what he brings to the table. Yeah, I thought that was the best. I thought that the Jets, you got the Jets situation, you got a lot of stuff going on with the Jets.

What other job is available, Ocho? The Jets was available. The Saints? The Saints. Hopefully, AG get the saints or the jets. Um, I know, I think he, you know, he obviously, AG played with the jets. Hell, he played with the saints also. He was on the defensive side. He was on Sean Payton's staff, uh, when he was at, at the saints.

So, but I, hopefully he gets one of these jobs. Um, it's going to be tough without a quarterback. You gotta find a quarterback coach Joe. Without that, you don't really have a chance to have longevity. Your lease is going to be short. Lease is very short if you ain't got no quarterback. You got to find a quarterback, Ocho. Without that, you don't really have a chance to have longevity. Your leash is going to be short. Leash is very short if you ain't got no quarterback. Well, our leash is short anyway. But anyway, that's not what's there. We'll talk about that another day. But I like to hire. I like Ben Johnson hiring. Chicago should be good. That's a very tough division, Ocho. You got young court, we'll see what Minnesota does with Sam Donnell.

Do they move on or do they elevate JJ McCarthy? Gonna be very interesting because you got Jordan Love, you got golf, you got Caleb Williams. So I like it, I like it. Many scouts believe the Browns will take Travis Hunter, two overall and focus on the quarterback later in the draft. A multitude of NFL scouts are reportedly of the belief that there's no way Shadour Sanders will play for the Browns, even if the Browns were interested in picking him. There's reportedly thought amongst scouting circles that if Hunter were to go to Cleveland,

he would have a Jim Brown type impact on the franchise. Brown's hold 33rd and 67th overall pick, uh, which would possibly give them a potential to select Jackson Dart, Quinn Ewers, Jaylen Morrow, or Kyle McCord. Uh, this is going to be a franchise changing draft for the Brown. I like it. What you think? I don't know. You know, their identity anyway is defense is their defense honestly until you get a

quarterback at the hand that can change the franchise right around like James Daniels has done like a C. Dave Stroud has done but can you imagine Denzel Ward and goddamn Travis Hunter? I don't care if you got Denzel Ward I don't care if you got Demsie award. I don't care if you got prime time. I don't care if you got male blunt. I don't care if you got Reba. If you cannot score, you cannot win at this level.

You got the Bill of Foundation somewhere. You got a star somewhere. And it's been how long since they've had a quarterback? Uh, autograph? It's been how long since they've had a quarterback Graham Good year with Bernie, you know, you know, they had the cart the cardiac the cardiac brows with a Yeah, the guy named Brian site

if I'm not mistaken, I think in the 80, uh, 1980, uh, site was an MVP, but. And you know, they, they have some, they have some, uh, situation. I think it was Bernie that they went to the championship games that they ended up losing to, uh, the Broncos. They lost twice to Broncos and AFC championship game, but it's been a while. That's been, Oh Joe, that's been 30 plus years ago. Hell that was before I got there. They lost as a matter of fact, they lost to the Browns the year before I got there.

So that was 89. I got to the Broncos in 90. So when I, when I, when I was 37 years ago, putting the asses is, excuse me. Talk about putting butts in seats. They had Baker. I mean, Baker, Baker look, um, they had Baker and they had Baker and Baker had a couple of good years, but they didn't have a talent around him. He got hurt.

And like I said, Baker needed to move on. They didn't like, and you have to accept Baker for who he is. He's cocky. He believes in his ability. I got no problem with that. You know, they like when we want an adult in the, in the building. Right. But he's where Baker is where he should be in Tampa playing unbelievable football for

a team that believes in him, players that believe in him. Also, the Bills get their revenge. The Bills defeated the Ravens 27-25 in a dramatic finish in Buffalo, advancing to the AFC Championship game for the first time since 2021. A heartbreaking loss for the Ravens. The Bills were heading to Kansas City for a rematch. Remember, Kansas City went to Buffalo. I think they lost by two, well, they lost by a double digits. Now the regular season doesn't matter.

If Buffalo proved they lost really big, really bad to who, who was that? The Ravens earlier this year, Decker Henry ran a while, but Buffalo gets their revenge and now they turned her out and head back to Kansas City. Uh, Buffalo is the only team to beat Kansas City starters during the regular season and the entire regular season in 2024. Remember Ocho, they sought their starters the last game. But at the end of the day, this game came down to turnovers and missed opportunities. The Ravens are going to kick themselves.

They turned the ball over. Lamar had two bad turnovers early in the ball game. And then this is a game that Mark Andrews is going to want to forget. He had a couple of drops, Ocho. He had a costly fumble. And then the two point conversion. You know, in a situation like drops, Ocho. He had a costly fumble. And then the two point conversion. You know in a situation like that, Ocho, when the weather's bad like that, if you bobble it's over.

You're not going to catch it again because the ball's too slick. And you got no footing. And so once he bobbled it, you know it was like, well, this is it. This is the opportunity. But when you look at this game, and it's another disappointing season, and we can't place all of this at the feet of Lamar. I didn't think he played well early. Um, I thought they got away from the running game too soon.

Oh Joe, because if you look at, you look at, look at when they came out of the locker room in the third quarter, they got the ball, what'd they do? Oh Joe. We're right down the field running the ball right down. Go ahead. Right down. What was yours? They, they, they got the, can you please explain to me understanding how you won all season long,

even with the turnovers that you did have, you had opportunity. You have opportunity. There are moments in a football game, there are moments in a playoff game, there are one, one, two, maybe three plays if that matter, out of all the plays that you run in the game and those those those moments those plays that actually matter they didn't capitalize on those opportunities despite the turnovers that you had yeah despite the turnovers like I'm not one to blame the game on one person I would never do that the turnovers hurt from Amar one I'm one I'm didn't count

because it was still tight it was it was still tied up and even though they can't go down and score on that turnover, he still had an opportunity to tie the game back up. Right. Second one, the fumble. Now that's call suit. Yeah. That's call suit. Andrews. You have to live with that though, Ocho, because we've seen him bobbing a snap. We saw him against your bingos. He bobbed a snap and threw a touchdown to Lightly. So you're gonna have to live with him because I know a lot of people say, Lamar just fall on it, live to see another day.

What makes him Lamar Jackson is his ability to turn a disaster into something dynamic. Yeah. Tonight, tonight just wasn't it. I feel, I feel bad for Mark Andrews because it was right there. It was right there. Tonight just wasn't it. I feel I feel bad for Mark Andrews on Because it was right there. It was right there All he had to do was be able to just to secure that catch if anything watch it That's his step was his was as his second or third drop. That's a second. He had two drops in a fumble

Remember they punched it out. He had a big game and the dude punched it out and they go that if I'm not mistaken I think they went down and got a field goal. So that's what puts you to an eight point game. You got to make that catch on by all means. You got to look that in. You got to stare at the laces on that ball and look at all the way. And if you got to go back to the basics, the basic fundamentals of catching the ball, you can't drop a ball in that scenario like that.

Yeah. Cause it allows you to, it gives your team another chance, a second chance. Now you put it back on your defense. Now you put it back on your defense to stop them. Don't let them get in field goal range. Now Josh, now maybe they're going to play a little free. So now Josh is going to probably do a little bit more running around because he has some freedom.

So now he can rely on his legs. And I thought that's the thing that really helped Lamar. And I'm like, Buffalo didn't want to give it a big play. But the one thing you got to do is you got to keep him in the pocket. You can't let him get outside the pocket. You let him get outside the pocket. So he started off, he's running. Now he gets outside of the pocket.

He hits likely. He gets outside of the pocket. He hits Sims. He gets outside of the pocket. He hit Andrew. You can't let him get outside the pocket. Make him beat you from the pocket. And I know it's a lot easier said than done,

but you want to keep him in that box. And if he works his magic in the box on Joe, you just have to live with that. You can't take everything away. But I'm going to take away what I know you want to do, which is get outside the pocket and buy yourself time. Yeah. I mean, the first half the Bills played really good.

They did. The first half, it looks like they bullied the Ravens on both sides of the ball. They did. Even though, when you look at it, now I know I'm not blind. I know I'm not blind and I know what I'm seeing. The Ravens defensively are first in almost every statistical category. But what I saw from the Bills in the first half, it didn't seem that way. Now I don't know if the conditions played a part in that

and then being successful running the ball and moving it down with the intermediate game through the pass. I don't know if the conditions played any kind of part in that, but like it sucks. It sucks. It does. It does cause this part is a season.

Let me tell you how I know it sucks because I feel bad for Lamar for one And it's how you know, I feel bad because I'm not even making funny you I'm not even making fun of you about your team losing and going on Hey, I'm not even making fun of you because Honestly as a bangle as much as I love my bangles I really thought and wanted and and I can say, I really wanted Lamar to win this one because I know he's going to win MVP.

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and we've seen Lamar this season have games where he's damn near perfect. Well, he has a perfect quarterback passer rating, 158.3. You can't get any higher than that. And we've seen him have those games. For whatever reason, we have, those games have come few and far between when it matters the most.

This is when it matters the most because there's finality to this. There is no tomorrow. There is no tomorrow. This great season, we got an all-pro quarterback that's probably gonna win his third MVP in a five-year span. We got an all-pro running back that rushed for damn near 2,000 yards. Now, Zay Flowers third MVP in a five year span. We got an all pro running back that works for them.

They're 2000 yards. Now, Zay Flowers not being in there that hurt, but they still got two of the best tight ends. They still got, I believe they got two top 10 tight ends. Nobody else can say that in the NFL. They've got, you know, Marlon Humphrey, made with the first team all pro at the slot. Hamilton made the Pro Bowl. I think they had a defensive line. Matt Abiqua made the Pro Bowl. They had another game in.

Made the Pro Bowl. This is very disappointing. You look at the way they turned their season around, especially defensively, Ocho. They were really good offensive. They lost some games that you're like, y'all go and y'all beat this team, but y'all lose to the Raiders? How the hell y'all lose to the Raiders? I think they lost, ended up losing, maybe ended some other team that wasn't very good. And you're asking yourself, how the Ravens losing to these teams with Lamar and Derrick Henry and all these weapons that they have, is that if you go back and study Lamar, and y'all can dress up however you want to, Ocho in the playoffs, he's had, look at how many games that he's actually played in the playoffs,

and then look at how many multiple turnover games he's had in the playoffs. Not go back, juxtapose, rewind it, press play, look at the regular season all of his starts, and look at how many multiple turnover games. Not nearly. So damn near every game that he, damn near every game, the two thirds of the games that he's playing the playoffs

He's burning the ball over. Oh, when you turn the ball over not only do You don't give yourself to can still get play out to play out to play Hmm, you give them possession So now they take you off the field because they're really not like a turnover defense on Joe They can occasionally but they don't really like take the ball away like the old Raven and put points on the board with it. But now all of a sudden, instead of, you know, seven, eight, nine, 10 plays where you can have something to hang your hat on, you only get three plays because you've turned the

ball over. And that's what that's what is hurting Lamar. And I know he's like, he's like, hey, here we go again. It has to. Don't let anybody tell you. I know you will say not no, yes, it does. Because you know what happened last year? You had two turnovers.

And you had two turnovers in the first half this year. So you're playing all of a sudden, it's going through your mind, and everybody's thinking the same thing in Baltimore. Here we go again. Lamar, because think about it, Ocho. The man only had four interceptions the entire year. Season.

So he plays 18 games, 18 plus, 18 plus one, he didn't turn the ball over against Pittsburgh. So he played 18 games with four interceptions and then you come out here and have another interception and then I think you have, I mean, had another fumble. He just has to let, and I don't want him to get over this so bad because it's a very disappointing season because like I said, okay You and I both believe he's about to be a three-time league MVP He is he's gonna win it he's gonna What he did during the regular season you can't take it away from you can't because it was the special season

It was he has to understand and I know Lamar already knows, when you go into the postseason, and if you look at when you made it before, and you've lost, you've lost the one thing that is the turnovers. You make it that much difficult. You put your team behind eight ball when you turn the ball over. And you say it all the time, Monk, you pay double for them. You pay double.

You pay double for them. Even though double. You pay double for them. Even though you had a chance to come back, now everything else has to go well or damn near perfect to get yourself back in the game. It is. And if you look at Joe Flacco, Joe Flacco's not a third of the quarterback. But can't play all time?

Oh yeah. Joe Flacco's supposed to have been to two Super Bowls. He hit Lee Evans in the hand and had the Patriots beat and he dropped it. Knocked it. And then we know he went on the road. He went on the road and beat Peyton in his house. He went on the road and beat Tom in his house. And he went and he won a Super Bowl.

And he had Tom beat again in his house. Yeah. Joe Flacco played a book. You would think Joe, you like, hold on a minute. Yeah. How the hell are you doing this in the playoff? You don't look nothing like this in the regular season. They was calling Joe, Joe Flacco. That's Joe Montana. Yeah. Protecting. It's just the opposite with Lamar. I don't, I don't know what it is. I don't know if he's putting too much pressure. I don't know if it's a mental hurdle, but for the turnovers, you go back and look at his first playoff game

Against the Titans in the divisional round. He turned the ball over he played but remember in the next year He goes on the road to play Buffalo. He throws a hundred plus yard interception. He comes back last year He had two interceptions Zay flowers have again Zay flowers the interception was very Turnovers costly because they was like at the one yard line. You like the thing, Ocho, where he fumbled in the end zone. So you like the thing, Ocho.

Yeah. They're gonna get points out of that. Maybe a touchdown. And then Mark Andrews, they're driving again. He punches it out. Drop pass on the two point conversion. It's just tough because they're gonna put this at, yeah, he dropped the ball.

Mark Andrews didn't play a good game, but they're going to place this at the feet of Lamar because he's the best player. He's going to be the guy that's going to win the MVP, not Mark Andrews, not anybody else. But listen, he won the MVP, right? Not only what he was able to do with his legs, but also his support and cash. Yes. His support and cash, you know, and you need to support and care to show up for you all the time as much as you'd like to. Now, listen, the only thing on you as a quarterback, you know, when you win, you get the praise. When you lose, they're gonna blame. They're gonna let you have it. But your support and cast has to

come in for you, especially in times like this. And they have to, huh? They have to. If it was a situation where, you know, they're going back and forth, and all of a sudden, somebody fumbling the ball, and Lamar had one of those, had one of those days where he's like five touchdowns, and he doesn't turn the ball over, but somebody else gets stripped, or somebody, you know, ball caroms off their hand.

Right. You're like, hey, I don't know what that's Lamar, y'all want Lamar to do. The man had five touchdown passes He didn't have a turnover that was the receiver got it pulled out That was the running back to fumble the ball, but these situations Ocho they had three turnovers tonight That matched their total from the last seven games That's that's crazy

That's crazy and Conditions we can't make no excuses. Yeah. The weather's bad in Baltimore. That makes me feel like, oh, the weather, bro, do you, Baltimore, what's the weather like in Baltimore? Cleveland, what's the weather like in Cleveland? Cincinnati, what's the weather like in Cincinnati? Pittsburgh, what's the weather like in Pittsburgh?

Baltimore plays bad weather games. Newsflash, and they don't play in a dome. Right. If you didn't know better, we're gonna talk about this game a little later. If I didn't tell you, if you didn't know the Rams was in LA, you would have thought, hold on, how's Matthew Stafford throwing the ball like this?

How are they doing what they do? They're not supposed to be able to do like this. It's certainly in California. They play in a dome. Arizona is in a dome. Arizona is in a dome. Right. This. It sucks.

Lamar Jackson Ocho has played eight playoff games. Eight. He's had multiple turnover in half of them. Damn. From a playoff standpoint and the chances at Lombardi, right? What is the window of opportunity for the Ravens? While they have the team that they have right now, what do you think the window of opportunity for them is to actually get to a chip? Long as they got Lamar, they still got a chance.

No matter what. You know the funny thing? Even with the other teams getting better, even Even with other teams getting better in the AFC, in the NFC, they will still not be another Lamar Jackson. They won't. So it always gives you that hope. It always gives you that chance in the back of your mind, even as a Ravens fan, you know, for those that are you in the chat that are watching. You're always going to be in contention. But then not only are other teams getting better, you know, your owner, your GMs, your coaches have one job as well. Continue to put pieces around thear to make sure that you have a chance to get back to

this point. To get back to an AFC Championship. At one point to be able to play in a Super Bowl, you know, and improve your team. Can I ask you a question? Talk to me. How many times do you take the pretty girl out and you don't get nothing before you stop? Three. Okay. Three. Because that's what I mean. That's the pretty girl. Yeah. Lamar Jackson is that. I mean three time league MVP and all pro. I mean think about it. Lamar Jackson is the first quarterback to be a three time first team, uh, uh, uh, three time all pro quarterback in his first seven. He's the first. Think about all the quarterbacks. Peyton, Tom, Aaron Rodgers, John Elway, Dan Marino.

Name a quarterback, none. Yeah. Has done what Lamar Jackson has done. He's a three time first team all pro quarterback in his first seven years. That's crazy when you think about it. That's just how dynamic and special young boys- Montana, Young, Brett Favre, name a quarterback.

All your great quarterbacks, the one that's won, Tom Brady. Tom Brady's only been a three-time quarterback three times in 23 seasons. 22 seasons. Have a long each play. He's a three-time. Lamar Jackson has done that three times in his first seven years About to be a three-time three-time. He's about to win have more MVP than his first seven years than any quarterback But at the end of the day Ocho, you know, it counts more in the playoffs

But that's what they judge regular season put each other quarterbacks off. Well, that's what they judge. The regular season. It's what he chose the quarterbacks off anyway. That's it. No other player, really no other player gets judged off the playoffs like the quarterback does. Because that's why that's how he makes, that's how he makes his money. Yeah. That's how he makes his name. If you want to be, look, you can be great, but if you want to be iconic,

Great. But if you want to be iconic, yeah, the playoffs are where it's at. Kobe, Bird, Magic, Jordan, Braun, iconic. Yeah. Shaq, Montana, Rice, Mahomes, Brady. It puts you into another stratosphere. It puts you into another stratosphere. It puts you into another conversation. The conversation separates you from everybody else. Oh, there've been a lot of NFL players in NFL.

There've been a lot of NFL quarterbacks in NFL. But you become iconic. And almost- I think it's over, Ocho. Players, coaches, general managers, front office, over 25,000., over 25,000. Damn. 25,000. 25,000.

Yeah. Now, you talk about the Hall of Fame that I think is less than 400. But when you talk about historic and iconic players, Lamar Jackson has an opportunity that when you talk about the NFL, you cannot mention anything about the NFL or quarterbacks without saying L. Jackson's name. Yeah. That's what he has an opportunity to do. You know, you know, it's funny. And even now, even at this point,

with no Super Bowl, with no Super Bowl, you can't talk about the story of the quarterbacks throughout the entirety of the NFL without mentioning his name now. So imagine what happens when he gets over the hump. Cause you can't tell the story of quarterbacks based on what he's done once he wins his MVP without mentioning his name. But what now you want to subo when the Brady's and the Montana's and the Mahomes having a discussion. Yeah.

Let me roll my eight. What y'all guys talking about? I'm at the table Ocho. Well,all guys talking about? I'm at the table, Ocho! Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I'm at the table! Yeah. Damn, man. Yes.

He's special. All it takes is one. And I've said this. I believe if he can get one, and I hate using the caveat if, but if he can just get one, I believe the floodgates are open yeah I believe the floodgates so I believe the floodgates for Lamar Jackson will open and boy it's hard I mean you think about it Marino was 23 went to the Super Bowl won the MVP and never been back it took took, I mean, John went, John went, I think John came in with 21, uh, 83, 84, 85, 86,

he went to the Super Bowl in 86, went in 87, went back in 89 and he went it. John won the Super Bowl in year 15 to year 16. That's killing. Kelly never won won Moon. Never won. I mean think about it. They were killing Steve Young. Steve Young was winning MVP just like Lamar.

Yeah. It wasn't until he won that Super Bowl. He got that bear off his back. Once you get that monkey off you. Hey look at you. You ever ran the 400? Of course. You know what it's like when you come when when you come in all that, that, that,

that curve on that 300, monkey, that monkey jump on your back coming down that straight right away. Yep. All right. And that's, and that's what it takes all Lamar. That's what, that's Steve Young. He had to get that. He had to get that one.

Right. Get that one. That's it. Every team has played in an NFC championship game since the Cowboys last went to the NFC championship game. You got a, you got Dan Quinn with a rookie quarterback in the NFC championship game. Kellen Moore is calling plays in the NFC championship game. His first Moore is calling plays in the NFC championship game. His first year there. Who do you think the problem is in Dallas? I'm just curious.

Chad, can you, who do you think the problem is in Dallas? Because everyone that leaves Dallas and goes somewhere else, they seem to have found success or finding success. The coaches thrive. So who? Hmm. I'm just asking and I'm curious what the chat would say Oh Yeah, you know Mike McCarthy Got tired of a Kelly Moore getting a little shy. Oh

You know, he wanted to run the ball to he wanted to pass the ball too much and lo and behold He get he get Kelly Moore out there and he wrote he throws the ball more than what Kelly Moore did when Kelly Moore was Calling the place Yeah To see me to Dallas coach I know we've heard the rumblings about prime going there and I'm not sure if that would work that situation Because prime would be the one to take all the spotlight away from Jerry. All the tremendously. I think Dak and Chad might not agree with me but I think Dak

and CD Lam and the rest of the supporting cast offensively would do very well with Ben Johnson and his creativity, you know, with that, with that offense and being the fact that with Ben Johnson, they would score, be somewhere statistically in the top five when it comes to scoring. I, I, I don't know why I just like it. I just think someone like Ben Johnson being in Dallas, uh, having be, not only being the head coach, but also controlling and doing the play calling as well. You can't Ocho. Because he's like Al. Man had to get out of sheet. Al needed to know what you was running. We're not gonna get into that. Ocho, in fact seven Dallas assistant coaches from 22 or 23

will be participating. Wait how many? In the NFC Championship game. Seven. The last championship game appearance for the Dallas Cowboys was 1995. The Bears, every team has been in the NFC Championship game except the Cowboys was 1995. The Bears, every team has been in the NLC championship game except the Cowboys in the 2000s. Even the Bears, the Giants won the Super Bowl, the Seahawks, Carolina, Arizona, Falcons, Minnesota,

Saints, Packers, Tampa, Rams, 49ers, Detroit, the Commanders and the Eagles. Do you think Jerry knows this or he doesn't pay it no mind? Oh Joe, if you could do whatever you wanted to do and make 300 million, or you could do whatever you wanted to do and make 300 million or you could do it the right way, make 300 million, but you're not going to get no credit. Jerry wants credit. That ain't work. That's what Jerry wasn't working. It ain't working. It's not working. He doesn't. Didn't that man tell you he bought this team? He bought this occupation. Yeah, but normally he told you that.

Oh, when you buy the point of buying the occupation is for one. So you can succeed and win at it. Not just buy it to tear it down or not just buy it and be losing. I want to do it. I want to work on my, I want to work on my own car. It didn't want to ever crank. Instead of me taking it to, instead of me taking it to a auto technician. It's still a me taking it to a auto technician.

You know, we got to be politically correct. We can't say mechanic anymore. We got to say auto technician. Not because, you know, people that, oh, let's give them the problem. Okay, okay. Auto technicians. I like that. Shade Trier's mechanic. But in that situation, man, it's I mean, look at this, with a rookie quarterback Dan Quinn stayed longer than what he probably should because he thought he's gonna get the Dallas job

He was gonna be willing to forgo give up of himself We saw Dan Quinn get to the Atlanta Falcons to the Super Bowl have a 28-3 lead so he can coach He can coach. He can coach. But nobody. Ben Johnson is not going to be Ben Johnson in Dallas. He needs to go somewhere where he's going to have control. It looks like all indication is pointing to the Raiders. I wouldn't be surprised within the next two to three days. How are we going to the Raiders?

We don't got no quarterback. I'm talking about we. He doesn't want to. Listen, a lot of times guys don't want to be in a situation with Detroit. A guy that gave him his start. I don't really want to be in that situation. Dan Quinn said, I don't care. Dan Quinn said, I'm tired of this.

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The majority of the yardage came on two carries. He had a 78 yarder, he had a 62 yarder. Jalen Hurst suffered his knee injury in the second half but was able to finish the game. Ocho, you and I talked last night. I'm not gonna let Saquon beat me. If Jalen Hurst throws for an efficient 250 yards, three touchdowns, I walk to the middle of the field, hey good luck next week, whoever y'all against the

commander's man, you're a hell of a player. That's what I do. I'm not gonna let Saquon beat me. And I be damned if they didn't let Saquon beat him. You have to remember, right? We got Lane Johnson. We got Lane across the board. They average as far as weight goes, but the Rams offensive defensive line is undersized. They're undersized. They tried. They had some moments where they were able to contain Saekwon. But at some point, you keep chopping that wood, at some point it's going to break. At some point it's going to crack. And that's exactly what happened due to them being so

on the sides up front. Even if you stack a nine in the box. You know, once they come off the ball, they bullying them boys up front. They definitely did that. They bullying them boys up front. So, and it takes so much pressure off Jena, takes so much pressure off Jena Hersh too. It takes so much pressure off him because he don't have to do much.

Because Saquon is carrying the load. Same situation over there in Baltimore. Put the ball in your bell cow's hands and let them take the game over for you But but Philly never got away from that Yeah, they did They did that's the problem. Oh Joe Baltimore got away from it for a quarter Why?

And you look at someplace they had a Saquon got stopped, but you let him get that hole and he stepped to the side. Peace to Bob. You know what's so funny? He's taking small steps when he running and it's faster than every damn body and never get caught. The thing is he's quick.

The thing is he has great balance. If you look at the crossover, his step, like they give him the ball and he steps outside and when he sees a crease, he hit it. He hit another gip. He stepped on it, man. Yeah. The first one that he stepped on it, gone. The 78 yarder, Ocho, he's like.

Out of there. And that was just a, Ocho, that wasn't a talk. That was just a head off. Head off. Yeah. And then he crosses over. Boom. And he exploded.

Uh, a pair of fumbles on back-to-back drives set the Rams back significantly the red Matthew Stafford had LA in the red zone I thought LA was gonna do it cuz Pukka Nakua made a heck of a catch over Slay or Darius Slay with a chance and then on fourth down but Ocho I'm looking at there was some music communication with the center and the right guard because on back-to-back plays you turn Jalen Carter in the car I don't know what I'm not going away from him. Yeah. Well I'm not going away from him. The center look right and the guard slid to the right and then he went to the left and then tried to come back

and by the time he came back he was second Stafford. I'm like young boy. Bro why would you do? Listen,, y'all handle that over there. I got to worry about this one. Yeah. This is the one I got to worry. He's the one. And he did it again on fourth down. I'm trying to figure out, like, bro, I'm not, listen,

on a defense, Hocho, if you got Reggie White, if you got Bruce, you got LT, I respect everybody on the offensive line, defensive line, if you got Bruce, you got LT, I respect everybody on the office of defensive line, cause you in the league, but I'm not to, Hey, it's like, it's like AD, why would you do, why would you slide? Why would you double someone else other than Aaron Donald? Why would you double someone else other than JJ watt? Why? Now that's Jalen Carter. Yeah. He's the most, he's the most disrupted right now. And I said this, if he ever got in shape, cause I saw him in college, not as last year, as last year he was bulljabbing.

But when he hungry and motivated, and I think he's motivated now because he's got some, he's an all pro, he's a pro bowl player. Oh Joe. If in the next three years, he's not a defensive player of the year. I ain't talking about a candidate. I'm saying that the defensive player of the year, what they tell it, call his name defensive player of the year is Jaylen Carter. He should be disappointed. Yeah. That's the kind of ability that this young man has.

He's explosive. He can play the run. He's disruptive. He can pressure your quarterback. He's disruptive. He can pressure your quarterback He punched the ball out cuz he did a great day Yeah one hand on the go and punch the ball out of Kyron Williams. Yeah. Yeah, man. He has he has all the tools He now he should be thanking man. I'm thinking I'm thinking Hall of Fame I'm thinking they need to start getting me ready for the size 52 a 54 jacket

He has that kind of ability. Does he know it though? Now if he can channel all that and understand how great he is or how good he is now, it's all about him understanding what you can see watching from home. We can see the greatness in him. Oh, he's special. He got to understand it and funnel all that energy into his craft. He can be one of the best to ever do it.

He showed up so, he's so quick off the ball, little Joe, for a man his size. Man his size ain't supposed to be that kind of explosive. Not, his first step is not supposed to be that fast. And he's powerful. I don't know if he's weight room strong, Ochoa. I don't know if he can bench 500 pounds and squat all that. But I'm talking about football strength.

To take a man. I said, that's the way you could tell somebody, can you move a man against his will? Against his will, yeah. I knew you were going to say that. Can you move him against his will? When he said, man, I ain't going nowhere. Yeah, you say This plot of land whatever

Think about it. I got three defensive tackles, right? Three three different three defensive tackles that were not only weight room strong But on the field it showed up as well and then their first step Quick as hell now watching Jalen Carter. He's one that's been able to do it. Aaron Dono, way too strong. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, a technical savage with a quick step. I got two more for you though.

Who do you got? Remember Big Sam Adams? Oh yeah, I played with him. Man, Big Sam had one of the quickest first steps, man, to be that size, but also weight room strong. And to be honest with you, the only man I've ever seen put 45s on the bench bar to where it's no room left and you can't put them on now, with the quickest first step as well, that goddamn Vince Wolf, man.

What? And then he up under the bench, talking, holding the conversation, and with all the place, the bar bending. Wow. Why aren't you even straight no more? He got all the 45s on the, I don't even know how much it was.

Having people in the chat, if you know, if you lift weights, you can can tell me please tell me how much we have all the 45s on the binge bar where you can't you can't put them on there he holding the conversation with me we in the weight room he talking to me and slow i'm not talking about bringing it down and coming back up right away i'm talking about slow what the hell you be What the hell you be? What? Man, I love, hey, watching him, you know, obviously, uh, uh, watching Jaylin Carter, like I said, I was disappointed in him because I thought he bulljabbed his last year. He knew he was going to be a top pick.

Uh, the Eagles got a bargain. The Eagles should have never been able to get him at 10. But he has some, he has some issues. He has some red flags, got a couple of, you know, some trouble with the law and speeding and the situation. Yeah, got himself into some trouble. But he's supposed to have been the number one overall pick. That's how good he is. That's how good he is. That's that's the kind of ability that he has. And I and I think now he's starting to learn it.

Hopefully Fletcher Fletcher Cox, who was was there and retired. Hopefully he got an opportunity to talk to him, say, son, you can be a little Hopefully Fletcher Cox who was there and retired. Hopefully he got an opportunity to talk to him and say, son, you can be, look, you got Reggie White's potential. Everybody know what Reggie, the Minister of Defense, everybody know what Reggie was. Reggie brought it. Every game, every play, whether he was in Philly,

he was in Green Bay, he retired, came back for his last year, played one year in Carolina. People don't realize that Reggie played a year in Carolina because he, you know, he had at that point in time, I think he had retired him and his wife, Sarah had got a place on Lake Norman. Man, Jalen Carter, this Eagles team is going to be, hey, everybody thought they were going to be going to Detroit. It's like, no, we got the AFC, we got the NLC championship game on our field. And we got to, it's going to be a great game. It's going to be a great game.

Cause both games were close. Both games were close on Joe. Uh, they won by eight on their field and then, uh, Washington ended up winning. Uh, and that last and sudden death, what, what, what an overtime, but they ended up winning on the last second when he threw that touchdown pass like four or five seconds. And the thing with Washington is because of the quarterback Ocho, they believe they got a chance.

Cause look how many games that they won on the last possession, the last throw of the game. So we don't believe we out of any game long as we got that guy. Yeah. It's gonna be a good one. I wonder, I wonder what the weather, I wonder what the weather is going to be like, but you know, in DC, DC, you're cold.

Yeah. DC and just as cold, just as cold. Yeah. Uh, you'll get, you'll probably get, you'll probably get, I mean, it started a game, look at the field, how it looked like, Ooh, it's just going to be cold. And next thing you know, no snow. Yeah. So it's pro it's probably going to be that next week you know, no snow. Yeah No, it's probably gonna be that next week. Same thing. Oh Joe

Eagles fans showed up outside the Rams team hotel today and started trash talking to players this morning This comes out the LA's Jared verse said last week that he hates Philly and all their fans Jalen Carter approached verse pregame over to put the championship game bonus on the line verse decline Yeah, listen verse might've verse might've talked his trash but boy did it well he showed up today on Well, he gonna be defensive rookie of the year he showed up today He verse showed up today as much as much as that's listen as a team The team didn't win But when you talk trash like that before a game Mm-hmm, he backed it all up. Oh, yeah, he backed it all up with his play. He was all over the place

He was getting out. Yeah, there's hell Hey, I like I like Jayla Carter. Jayla Carter. Hey you call for this. Put your put your bonus. Yeah, what's your money? Oh? J. LeCun said, hey, you call it is it put your put your bonus on. Yeah, put your money up. He want to do that. Oh, I was just playing. Nah, man. I was just playing with your bag. You know, I'll be.

Yeah. Anyway, no, as a rookie, he put that money on the line. I know. I don't play. What I mean, what did it get? Seventy-seven grand for winning today? Yeah, everybody. You know, when we get to the playoffs, everybody's checking.

Oh yeah, yeah. I don't like that I'm taking a play cut. Cause I know my check, I know my check look like it in the regular season. And y'all give me, first of all, it wasn't near this when I played. So you can just imagine when I went to that, I retired 20 years ago, Ocho.

So you could know the checks wasn't nowhere near this. So I definitely wouldn't have been, I wouldn't have bit. Oh, I would bet like a Green Bay because they were talking that ish I definitely would have been all them bums. I Definitely would have been all them for sure Man it's gonna be a good school be a great game. It's gonna be I don't know who had this if you who had Washington and Philly on your bingo card in the NFC championship. I think a lot of teams had, but they might have Philly. They might've had Philly in it. Exactly. But not Washington. No. Everybody either had Kansas City. You had some combination, Kansas City Buffalo, Kansas City Baltimore, Baltimore Buffalo.

That was the combination that you had in the AFC. Mm-hm. So I don't think anybody's surprised that we see Buffalo in Kansas City. I think there's a lot of people in shock. Other than people like you know Earthquake quake is a big Washington fan. You know, uh, uh There are a lot of people that don't that are that a commander fans that grew that like man, man I'm tired of this losing some I think somebody asked me today man. We got a chance I like yeah, you got a chance as a football game, but I wasn't gonna put no money on Washington, not against Detroit.

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