Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Best of Life Advice - relationships, respect & money

Episode Date: October 2, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson enlighten us on hard work and respect being the number one currency. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss how to deal with issues between your significant other and your family, debate how to handle money and relationships and much more!03:14 - Shannon always shows a level of respect. Respect is the No. 1 currency.09:00 - Shannon moves Ocho to tears with this advice11:10 - Shannon tells Dallas live audience to put in work to succeed14:30 - You think you’re doing everything right, but God knows your heart - Shannon Sharpe14:57 - People think they’re above hard work nowadays. “I’ve never been too proud to work hard”20:06 - Not one thing is worth your life. Ocho dropping some wisdom.26:02 - Weddings cost way too much nowadays. You shouldn’t be getting married if you charge guests for their plate.33:41 - Dallas audience asks Shannon when he’s going to settle down.35:49 - Shannon and Ocho discuss Adrian Peterson’s financial situation.43:41 - How to deal with mothers and your significant other butting heads53:11 - Ocho and Shannon discuss money and relationships01:01:37 - Should you take a job before knowing contract details?(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I show everybody a level of respect because if you don't, they'll come get you. Because the number one thing in the streets is respect. That's the number one currency. You think it's money, no it's respect. They'll chop your head off if you're disrespectful. And don't think nothing about it. Because I see, I don't see them, they come in the barbershop or whatever. Hey bro, let me holler at you.

Oh, uh, hold on. Raw daylight now. Raw daylight. Hey, get out here, man. Hey, they nothing to wet this shop over me. Get your ass out there. It's been, I've seen too many examples over the years. Too many examples.

Too many. Man, look here. At Pasha, I wish Pasha passed away. Here's to have a car wash on 37th and 37th and bull. Dude Slim, little young kid came up there, they got the tussle. He beat the little boy up by probably about 12, 13. He came back.

He came right back with his mom. He said mom day go mom handed him that too. Did it to the little boy? His mom gave him the two. The little boy. Yeah. Yeah. You see how I got a body

that no joke. You see, you see what I did? Yeah, man. Hey, right. Everybody don't have the guidance that you and I had. I had a praying grandmother. My grandmother guided us, tried to teach us right from wrong. No, it was all my son. It's you know, hey, be respectful. Yes, sir. No, sir. It's OK. Right. You're wrong. You're wrong. Accept accountability.

But everybody like that. Yeah, you got some parents out there, got some some some dads and some. Hey, yeah, they tell the kid, hey, you got man. Stop. It ain't like it was when I was growing up when I was growing up, oh, we fall, we knuckle up. We fall, hey, you, hey, P, I see you. Right. Oh, in between fourth and fifth period. Hey, I told you, back then, back then,

obviously during your time and during my time, it kind of, it coincides a little bit when it comes to the other side of the street, outside of the game of football, there was still structure and discipline. There was still, there was still structure and discipline, even on that side of the ball. Obviously, even though we didn't play that side, but still, there was a reason behind something happening.

There was a reason behind it. You ain't just doing it all willy nilly just to say, oh, you know what? I'm hungry. I ain't got doing it all willy nilly just to say, oh, you know what? I'm hungry. I ain't got no money. I'm gonna go take this nigga shit. No, no. Oh Joe, when we were growing up,

you would never talk back. You didn't talk back to someone's mom or grandma. You was never disrespectful. I couldn't even imagine talking disrespectful to someone, even if they just five, 10 years older than me, let alone somebody my grandma age, somebody my mom's age, I wouldn't have been here. Man, Granny would have granted Mary and Barney Porter

to beat the brakes off us But no daddy played up them people didn't play that but you respect what there's a certain level of respect You could go to people's houses and get a meal My grandma didn't play that either. You ain't going nobody. Hey, my grandma didn't play that You want some side? No, ma'am, we just ate. Hungry to the mug. I ain't lying to you. Me and my brother be hungry to the mug. You bet I say, yeah. Man, Ocho, I ain't gonna lie.

Ocho, I be so hungry every time I swallow, my stomach say thank you. Ain't nothing coming down. Right. But, hey, but you ain't go to people's houses to eat. Get away, then you get back home, hey. You get some bread, hey. You maybe have a mayonnaise sandwich

or a ketchup sandwich, something like that. You got no meat. Hey, you did a syrup sandwich before? You wanted the bread up? Oh, syrup sandwich, you fold it up and dip it in the syrup? Yeah, of course. Oh, yes. I had them some good days. Yes. I had a good day.

Yeah. We had ketchup sandwiches, mayonnaise sandwiches, syrup sandwiches. Yes. Okay. Yes, sir. Always. But you did, but there was a level of respect that kids had for adults. And I don't know what happened.

And I think the generation you started having, parents started getting younger and younger. And the kids, they were so close in age. And kids started getting more and more disrespectful. And parents didn't correct them. Your generation, my generation, was the definition of it takes a village. And that village did

exactly what they were supposed to do. Now, now are the generation we in now. What? No, you can't create, you can't correct nobody's kid. It's always somebody else's fault. If if your kid, let me ask you a question, Ocho, if your kid disrespectful at home and you the parent or you the grandparent, what the hell you think gonna happen when he or she is not around you? If they disrespectful to you,

you think they gonna go to them people's schools and be respectful? You think they gonna be respectful of somebody's job? A lot of times, we'll give up on a woman that has 80, 85%, 90% of what we want only to be with somebody that has 10 to 20% of what we want. You ever notice that Ocho? I'm done, I ain't gonna, no, I ain't, it ain't the time. Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Ocho, it ain't time, Ocho, it ain't time, Ocho, it ain't time. It ain't time, Ocho, it ain't time. Hey, do me a favor, do me a favor. It ain't time, it ain't time. It ain't time, it ain't time. Do me a favor, do me a favor. Listen, listen, I don't ask you for much. I don't ask you for much, but I need you to bring that back one more time. I need you to bring that back one more time, because I've, boy, I felt that, boy. You don't see me tearing up?

But it ain't funny, man. Do me a favor. I promise I ain't gonna cry. I promise I ain't gonna cry. But bring that back one more time. A lot of times, men will leave a woman that has 80 to 90% of what we want, only to go be with somebody that has 10 to 20%. You see that? We'll get mad at the woman. She got 80 to 90 percent of what we want. We get mad.

Here come the 10 to 20. I need that. I promise you ain't crying. These are tears of joy. I need to hear that. Hey. Oh, shit, joy. I need to hear that boy. Hey. Oh shit, boy, that was a good one, boy. Oh.

It happened. I've done it. All right, see, a lot of times with y'all, I don't tell you things that somebody told me. I'm telling you what I know. Cause a man will get mad. And I don't know if women do it. I can't speak cause I don't know.

I don't know how you guys think, but I'm just telling you how a man of thing how I thought Man Hey, what I was doing boy ain't even Sunday, but you preaching though Shit got me got me crying shit fuck wrong with me. Okay, let me tighten up. Let's go back to the show What does it take to be a great sports analyst like yourself? Work. You have to become selfish. You have to become obsessed. You have to give up a lot. People, everybody says, okay, I want to get into the sports industry, the sports business, but when the sports come

on? They don't just come on Mondays. They industry the sports business, but when the sports come on They don't just come on Mondays. They don't just come on Tuesdays. They come on on the weekends What does people like to do on the weekends? But if you want to be great at this you got to watch you've got to study You see everybody wants to go to heaven, but nobody wants to die The Bible says you can't enter there without going through that process. You want to be great. People wanna be great at a given craft

but don't wanna put the time or the effort in to be great at it. And then get mad when it doesn't work out. Don't be mad for the results that you didn't get for the work you didn't put in. It is no secret. put in. It is no secret. Only in the dictionary does success come before work. That's the only place you'll see that. I understand I'm selfish probably why I'm still alone at 56. Probably should have got married a lot earlier but I was so obsessed with being getting

my grandmother and my family out of the environment unless you grew up like I grew up imagine a thousand square foot cinder block cement floors when you got to spray you've seen a mechanic shop where they have to spray water on the floor to keep the dust down that's how I grew grew up. With no indoor plumbing, no running water. You think I wanted to live like that for the rest of my life? You think I wanted my kids? I didn't want my kids to have one hour

in a day like I had, let alone a lifetime. And I neglected and I sacrificed a lot of people. And I told my kids, I'm not here to apologize for that. Cause I got you to a place that you never would have gotten Without it You're starting at third base When your daddy started in the stands, I didn't even have a bat to go to the plate to play it What are you willing to sacrifice

You see People will always write down their goals in the left column How many times people write down there what they're willing to sacrifice in the right column? What are you willing to sacrifice to be the great sports Alan's that you asked me about? What are you willing to give up? What are you willing to go without? Only then When I train when I work out, if you don't ask yourself, when is this over? How much longer?

Why am I doing this? Where do I go from here? Why are you doing it? Why are you doing it? That's it. If you want to be great at something, you got to sacrifice something. You don't catch a lion without sacrificing a goat. So what are you willing to sacrifice to get to what you want?

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. But that's why, if people wonder why they don't get the blessing

that someone else, ask yourself. See, you think you're doing everything right but see God know your heart. See you can fool everybody else but you can't fool that man upstairs and you wonder why. Ask yourself. Ask yourself when you alone and you by yourself. Oh I like such a, but it's in here. Can't fool that man. You can fool us. You know, people don't want to. Everybody's gotten above working, man. I ain't working on no damn enough.

McDonald's, that's beneath. I ain't doing this job. That's beneath me. So I let me go. Let me let me go take some somebody else to work hard for. Let me go take that up off them. And then when it is, he have to do it like that. He have to shoot it. He have to kill him. Well, you have to take that man's shit.

You rob this when you rob in somebody. Yeah, when you do it bad to some harm to somebody, whatever happens, happens, Ocho. And you don't have to do it like that. How you had to do it? Oh yeah. Yeah, always. Hey, go get your job.

I'm glad, oh Joe, you know what I'm glad. I've never been too proud to work hard. People try to make me feel bad, man. You working in them fields, you getting tall in your, because I mean, you know, you get tall on your hands, you got tar in your hair, you out there getting black. I ain't never been too, I've never been too proud to work hard.

Man, give me an honest day salary. I give him an honest day's work. I can honestly say I ain't never took nothing off nobody. Okay, I hit my grandma up a couple times for 50 cent dollars, but you know, I gave him, I gave him. Yeah, I hit granny up, but I think she forgave him, baby. I think I made good on that, Ocho. But that's just me. And the biggest mistake that I've made a large portion of my life, Ocho, is that I think everybody thinks like me. Yeah.

Oh, I'm gonna go out there and work hard. I ain't gonna take nobody else's fish. I'm gonna go out here and do the right thing. I ain't gonna do that. People looking, thinking just the opposite. Just the opposite. It is. Well, you know, times are different now. Time's the opposite. It is. You know, it's you know, you know, times are different now.

Time is different now. You know, everybody want that fast life. Everybody want that. Everybody want that Instagram lifestyle. You know, it's always only it's only it really is too many jobs that provide that like that lifestyle you see on Instagram's all the time. It's only one. It's only it's only one way to get that.

You know what I mean? If you if you ain't on the goddamn field of that basketball court, hell, It's only one way. It's only one way to get that. You know what I mean? If you ain't on that goddamn field of that basketball court, hell, there's only one other route to attain that type of lifestyle and luxury. Yeah. Unless you a rapper or something, entertainment or something, you doing something because ain't nobody that's working, that's worth money posting that money like that. No, because I mean you post too much, they gonna come get it. Now they gonna come see what you buy. The more time you invest in something, the more it hurts. That's why people, you see people when they invested a lot in a relationship, 10, 15 years,

and it hurts. I'm sending flowers. I'm writing. I'm not saying me, but I'm saying that sending flowers, they're writing, they're buying gifts because they don't want it to end because they're invested. And then you see people, they go on it like I would eat with that person. Because they didn't give a damn from the beginning. They weren't investing.

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Listen, there's another lesson in this for my athletes, for anybody out there that has nice items, nothing is worth your life. Nothing is worth your life. You can buy another Rolex, you can buy another chain. If someone's trying to take your car, you can buy another car. Anything. If you are at gunpoint, you give up those possessions.

I don't think they pulled a gun out of him on first, Ojo, cause I believe he the gave it up like you said. I think he probably tried the strong arm and got the tusseling. Yeah. Shit. Yeah, see, don't do that. You only get one shot.

This ain't a video game. If somebody come up to you and they ain't got no gun, they ain't got no knife and they say, oh Joe give it up. You taking it off that freely? Then you have to. Yes, I'm not playing. Why am I playing tough?

Why? Oh, why, why, why play tough? Listen, listen to me. If somebody come up to you and say, let me get whatever is off of you, you already know they holding. No, go out and say, go out and get a job. You already know they holding.

Why even play that game? Yeah, man, here, you could take, man, take this shit. I can buy this again. Go get a job. I can't, uncle, this ain't Call of Duty. I can't revive myself. I don a job. I can't, I can't, this ain't Call of Duty. I can't revive myself. I don't get a second chance at life. Yeah. I mainly, Ocho, like I said,

the man's either at an autograph signing, Ocho. So I'm pretty sure it's probably in a, probably in a fairly nice area. I mean, I've done a few autograph signings and it ain't really no shady places. Right, right, right. Yeah, but you know, it don't matter where you at. It don't matter where you at.

He probably, Jit probably knew he was there and waited till after the signing to confront him. Let me ask you a question. You think that 17 year old gonna run up and say, hey Trent, give it up? Yeah. Exactly, that's my point. Trent Williams? Don't run up and say, hey, Trent, give it up. Yeah. Exactly. That's my point.

Trent, what you? She's lit. And that's the thing. But I get what you're saying, Ocho. Try not to put myself in that situation. You're right. You're absolutely 1,000% right. Yeah, I mean, I've been in that situation a bit,

but I didn't turn around. I took his word for it. He said, hey, you already know what he does. Hey bro, my wallet in the car. I ain't got nothing on it. Hey, I ain't got nothing. I don't want no problems. That's what stopped me from taking

cut carrying cash around like that, Ocho. I used to always carry cash. Anybody that knew me when I was younger. Yeah. Ocho, if you ever saw Shannon Shaw with less than 10 bands on it, call the cops. Somebody just robbed it right around the corner. I kept it on me.

But then I was like, man, for what? I'm inviting trouble? But what I'm inviting trouble. Yeah, you're right. You know, half the people, you can understand who really doesn't value, who doesn't really value their life. I can see the comments. I can see the comments

and you can tell who really don't value their life about dumb ass jewelry or change or shit that really holds no true value. Just by the comments and folk folk folk don't care, man. You're right. They swear. Listen, you don't get two of these. You don't get you. You don't. You don't get two of these. You can't revive yourself.

It ain't it ain't you can't press press start You can't you can't play over now hell man take this shit cuz you know what the funny thing you take my shit You're gonna be mad anyway We try to go pawn to the cellar cuz they ain't real no way you try to and you try to get it But hey, bro. Hey y'all fellas. Go ahead. Take this. I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can Yeah Oh, hey, y'all, go ahead. Take this. I'm trying to get you away from me as quick as I can. Yeah. Man, go on about your business, man. I'm trying to get home to these goddamn 85 kids, buddy.

Yeah, I ain't done wrong with that, Ocho. I totally. I get it. You're right. I mean, you're right, Ocho. You ain't wrong when you're right. And you're right. You ain't wrong when you're right, Ocho. Just a little young fella habit.

And he's been dealing with it. He's been dealing with some injuries. It's been kind of hard for him to get on the field, Ocho, because he's been nicked a lot. And then this happened. Man, he probably thinking like, Lord, I mean, you done blessed me, but I got buzzed up right now.

Because what's going on? And it's like, bro, like I said, but that's 17 year old. Nah bro, you ain't no juvie. I got to put real charges on you because you doing a real adult crime. Yeah. Yeah. Yes.

And think about it. He hit him in the chest, right? And God obviously has favor. Yeah, for sure. Ricky is OK. Now, what happened if you weren't OK? What happened if he passed away? You know, and I'm thinking, like, we don't really value life. We don't really value life until we lose somebody close to us.

We don't really value life until it happens to us. Always. And then everybody favorite line is, oh, you messed the city up with this one. Oh, but no, I'm reading the comments. Everybody tough. Oh, you were easy lit. But you never value it until it either happened to you

or somebody close to you. And then it's a, oh, damn, you fucked the city up with this one twin. Damn. I just, I just saw, I just talked to you the other day. Yeah, I just everybody try everybody trying to get that late though, Joe. You know, everybody, everybody trying to hit a lead. Oh Joe, he go talk about we'll have been close to one hundred and fifty, two hundred thousand. Y'all the damn fools

You ain't got it. If you got to charge for a wedding your your ass shouldn't be getting married I wish I might pay for somebody go to put somebody waiting Oh, oh, you're gonna charge everybody four hundred fifty dollars to try to recoup the money that you paid on that you paid for the wedding Which it shouldn't be that much. It shouldn't be a hundred and two, excuse me, excuse me if I'm wrong. Chat, y'all help me out. Please give me an amount on how much a wedding should cost. Let's start there.

I wanna break it down into parts. How much should a wedding cost? You know better than me, I'm just asking you. Oh Joe, oh Joe, the question is how bad you want to impress somebody and that'll dictate the cost of your wedding. Right. You see they don't fit 200,000. Now unless her daddy worth about 10, 15, 20, 30 million, I wish I might, I wish my daughters would come to me and talk about y'all better take this money for a down for a down payment on the house and get y'all ass on the bottom here.

I go stand beside, I come stand beside you the court and just to the piece. So 200,000 is that's too extravagant. That's way too much for a wedding. But I listen. What? For a wedding? They just coming to be nosy, huh? And half the people that don't even like the groom or the bride and don't, hell, man, I wish I might.

So, Chad, help me out, Chad. Please give me the numbers. Cause, listen, and you don't even know I'm playing the C right now. I keep asking you for a reason that yeah but here's the thing oh Joe normally the father I got two daughters they already know my orders already say oh if you think my daddy go play X, Y, and Z, that ain't happen. Destination wedding if you want to, OK. I wish I might pay $400 to go to somebody else's wedding.

Yeah, y'all go see Chris Brown. And then he go, he got the dirtall go see Chris Brown. And then he got to stop count my pockets. Oh, y'all pay to spend money on frivolous stuff. That's my money. Don't worry about what I spend my money on. Right. I. I just say spending four and fifty dollars to go to the wedding. So if I want to take four hundred fifty dollars, if I want to take four thousand dollars to buy a Beyonce ticket, if I want to take ten thousand dollars and I want to take $4,000 to buy a Beyonce ticket, if I want

to take $10,000 and buy a Beyonce ticket or go to the Super Bowl, that ain't none of your business. Support family and friends means I'm going to show up. Okay. If you got a business, if let's say, oh Joe, you got a restaurant. Okay. I ain't coming to eat free. I will pay.

I'm going to pay for my meal. I'm going to tip the servers. If you got a business where you selling t-shirts or clothing, I support you. But if you think for one second, I'm gonna pay $450 to go see your funky ass wedding, man, you out your mind. Hey, the chat, I didn't see nothing over 50 grand. I'm reading the chat and everybody in the chat said,

50 grand is a max for a wedding. Now, when it comes to weddings, I love the fairy tale ending. I love little girls that are raised, watching movies and being taught and groomed into that happy ending and actually making that come true and living that dream or living that fairy tale. But at what cost?

And in today's era, today's era of women and aesthetics and social media, like do women really wanna be, do they wanna have weddings? I think they wanna have weddings. They don't wanna be married. I think that's the disconnect. They like the weddings, the aesthetics,

the pretty, the changing outfits, but they don't like what actual marriage entails. There's a difference. I would break it down right now, but I'm not gonna break it down because we don't have that kind of time. The more extravagant the wedding, the shorter the wedding, the shorter the marriage, the more extravagant the short.

Go look at all those Hollywood stars that spent all that money. One million five hundred thousand two hundred thousand and see how long they stayed. Now go look at the ones that had a little quaint wedding, they went to the church or they went to Justice of the Peace. Cause you got a big ass wedding, you just try, man, I know a dude had a homeboy, man, Joe got married, custom suit, custom gator shoes. Hey, you were marry what? How long was mad by the long as a snowball in the microwave?

As long as a snowball in the microwave. How long that layer? Man, please pay it all that money 200,000 200,000 for what? What are you paying $200,000 for, Ocho? What? I'm just trying to figure what you're renting out.

The Taj Mahal? What you renting out, the White House? What y'all eat? What y'all eating, caviar, lobster? Man, please. That's a great topic, because I have no idea on how much weddings actually costs. And the funny thing about it is I keep asking purposely because you already know

who is doing all the planning and I'm curious to what that bill going to look like. Cause we ain't going too far now. We going, we going right to, we going right to the Bahamas. We ain't going there. I mean, that's the 30 minute flight. We're going right to we're going right to the Bahamas. We're going to. I mean, that's a 30 minute flight. Hey, I gave my daughter the budget.

You got a budget. I don't get whatever you do after that. OK, so you can you can have a you can have a wedding with 30,000. Thirty thousand. I don't know what you could have. I ain't the one getting married. I'll give a damn. Hey, they better go get one of them.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, y'all from the South. Y'all know about that. That that that fried can't finish his spaghetti. Hey, they better go get one of them on front. Hey, hey, hey, hey, y'all from the south. Y'all know about that, that, that, that fried catfish and spaghetti plate. Hey, I know somebody who that thing rottled up. What did y'all about a plate? 1050 ahead. Spaghetti, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, fried catfish, a piece of cornbread and a thing, a styrofoam

cup of sweet tea. That's all you're getting. Hey, Ocho. What up, Twain? What up, Twain? Shout out to Rayo. I'm an entrepreneur and a former track athlete as well. Okay. All right. This is for um. Okay. With my name is Rayo. I'm an entrepreneur and a former track athlete as well.

Okay. All right. This is for um. Okay. With my name is Rayo. I'm an entrepreneur and a former track athlete as well. Okay. All right. This is as well. Okay.

All right. This is for, um. Okay. With much success and being surrounded by love, how soon are you looking to find a balance in your life? Because you do believe that men and women need each other, correct? I do And we're not we're not made

And you are believer that we're not made to go out through this thing called life without our partner So how soon are you looking to find that balance to settle down and find your life partner to be honest with you? That's probably one of my greatest regrets that through this process. I really haven't had a whole lot of people to share it with If I had to do over again, I probably would do it a little different Probably should have met someone look I had some opportunities, but things didn't work out God didn't make any mistakes We ain't gonna do shoulda coulda woulda. How soon in the future are you looking to find out about? I wish, I wish. You shooting? I wish.

You shooting? I wish. You shooting? Come on now, Kobe. I wish, honestly, I wish I could give you a definitive answer. That I could say, you know what, in six months, year a year and a half he's talking about tonight oh I was a ball player too you if I was shooting you would know okay my bad my bad he's a bit but uh man my daughter here come here Come here. Hey! She's gorgeous. So if he is looking, they need to be age appropriate.

They have to be older than me, so I'm 55. Adrian Peterson, who earned more than 100 million dollars during his 15 year NFL career. He now faces a debt in excess of 12 million, and he's been ordered to turn over his assets to pay for it. According to the USA Today, a Houston judge has ordered AP to surrender property to satisfy the debt. Constables have been ordered to seize assets from his home. A court-appointed receiver has accused Peterson

of playing a shell game in order to avoid payment. Ocho. Ocho, man, oh, Joe, man, a P bro, you made 100 million. And then he borrowed. I think he borrowed like 5 million in like two years to interest. So when you borrow money like that, you got to play like 20, 25% interest on Joe. So it went from 5 million to like 8 million in three years it might be 50% interest Oh Joe but then you know a birthday party and you fly everybody I wish I might have a birthday party and I fly y'all in to come to my party where Where they do that at?

He got camels, he got tigers. Dude thought he was talking for real. Man, listen, you know how I am. The chat know, hell, the goddamn world know how I am when it come to finances. And I don't play that. I don't play that. Listen, him being in this situation is very unfortunate. I wish him well and hoping everything turns out in his favor. I'm not sure how this works.

Every nigga finna try to do that in his favor. He owe 12 million. I mean. And in front of the looks of it, he ain't got it. Yeah. I hope so. I hope he does. I hope he has some. How you take out a loan to throw yourself a birthday party. You better get, hey, you better go down there and get uh uh uh about five or six dozen crabs and some shrimp. Is it here you go? Who takes out a loan to throw themselves a birthday

party unless you're what trying to impress the party goers. I don't know. That's crazy, man. 100. Damn, man. Oh Joe how you oh Joe you throw a birthday party and you bring it what he flying 300 people 300 guests he flew in 300 guests I don't know 300 people if I'm 56 I don't know 300 people and I damn sure don't know enough of people to have to fly the ass to a mile's end. Right.

Man, you think I know 300 buckets, 300 burns? Hell no. That's messed up, man. He flew in 320 people. Ocho, check this out, Ocho. Yeah. But guess how he flew him? First class. First class. Yeah, but guess how he flew him Not bad first class. Oh, oh

Is there is there any way oh can you just file bankruptcy Hey you know if you ain't got no money it's hard to file bankruptcy you ain't got no money Cuz guess what your credit gonna be shot. So what you gonna put up? What you gonna put up for collateral? And I mean, but like the more the more people you say, Hey, can we get this? The more women just say what I'm gonna get it with ass amount. We got no money. What am I paying with it it for what I'm gonna pay with it but what am I going to pay to get what you're asking for if he doesn't have the thing is the best thing

to have if you don't have money is to have great credit you could have f-ed up credit if you got money you see how that works? Yeah. Boy, and the people okay. And think about it anytime you try to buy so what are you gonna do? They're gonna pull them credit scores. Credit scores. Equifax, Empyrean, what's the other one? Experian. So at this point in general, they got three of them. Now, some might be a little higher than the other one,

but I feel very good. Mine all start with eight. I ain't going to tell you what else they got. You know what comes after that, but I feel very comfortable. All three of mine start with eight. Right. But okay. But I, but I, I got a little bit of money. I ain't saying I'm the richest man in the world, but I got great credit and I do have a little cash, but I'm not doing anything to impress anybody. I'm not buying no $10 million home. I'm not buying no million dollar car. I'm not buying people in. Oh, oh, Joe, I used to have a party in Glenville.

I'm like, hey, y'all can drive in. Hey, you're welcome to come, you ain't gotta bring nothing. I got all the alcohol, I got a hundred pound of crab leg, a hundred pound of shrimp, we got like 200 hot dogs, 200 hamburgers, all the, hey, have at it. But to get there the best way you can. Preferably I'd prefer you to walk, because you're gonna be drunk by the time you leave now

I want nobody have no accident knock on wood. Thank god. We're watching over. Nobody got no dui. Nobody got hard But I ain't pressing nobody man. No Y'all know I got money. I'm playing in the field. I'm the highest paid xyz, but i'm not finna impress nobody Yeah, a theme a theme birthday party Blue jeans t-shirt shorts flip-fl-flops, sandals, whatever. That's the theme. Too. I don't even celebrate my birthday. I just say, I say, say me a little prayer. I'm glad to see, glad to see another year. Yeah. Give me a little Starbucks, give me a cigar, man, and kick my feet up. That's another.

That's how I just feel. I just feel bad, Ocho, that people come in and, I mean, some people never see, some people will never see a million dollars in their lifetime. And I get it when they say, when you say he made over a hundred million, you figure Uncle Sam will take 50% of that.

So that's 50 million. Let's just say, Ocho, I throw 25 million, I just throw 25. You still gotta have 25 left. Even after your agent take his cut back then, they tell you what, three, 4%, I don't know, five, if they paying for everything. Nah, and people like, oh, kids.

Kids don't live, her is the thing. Yes, my grandpa used to say, my grandpa told my brother and I, we were young. He said the worst kind of poor you can be is child poor. Don't let that go over your head people. That's an 18-year expense. That's damn near as long as your mortgage. Now, just imagine, your mortgage you got one. Because there ain't a people, they ain't, they're very many people that have seven mortgages. So you start having five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10 kids. Okay. And they're not by one. Guess what? Oh, Joe, that's 18 years. I know I done done the

math. Oh, shoot. I done done the math. Oh, shit, I done done it too, plenty times. Okay. So you know what that mean? That's right. That's why Shannon, you ain't with no vacation. Hell no, my vacation was right there. That was my vacation right there.

Yeah, oh, she don't play. She don't play because all that, all that. Man, man, Hurricane don't play. She cussing everybody out. How would you handle that situation? Obviously, Real, Real is important to you. That's your mom. Hey, Real got it when my mama was here, huh?

Real got cussed out when my mama was here. Matter of fact, I'm gonna show you. You can't even see, right? Listen, remember I told you when my mama passed away, I was here, which is a matter of fact, I'm going to show you. You can't even see right. Listen, remember I told you when my mama passed away. Her messages, right? You see, you see, you see before you scrolling, all her messages still there.

You want you want to know her last message was to me. I didn't erase yet. Hold on, custom real ass out. Thank you, bro. You laugh at I ain't pushing second row to Mark Funeral. Not a seat for me at the funeral. As for Sherrell said to me, she had no contact information on me to let me know you were having a party. Fuck that bitch, too.

Hey, what? Oh, well, my mama was hell, man. And everybody got it. There's a saying. I don't know how many people in the chat that are from Miami or any of my friends. There's a saying, you are really not a friend of mine. We are not really friends if you haven't been cursed out by my mama. So what I do try to do in situations like that, I try to de-escalate them as much as possible. But once she got that lick in her system,

if my mama got that lick in her system, it's a wrap. Yeah, there's nothing I can do. There's nothing I can say. It's a wrap. I believe there have to be a healthy level of respect on both sides. I understand because moms don't believe anybody is ever going to be good enough for their daughter. Yeah.

And fathers don't believe that anybody is ever going to be good enough for their daughter. And fathers doesn't believe that anybody is ever gonna be good enough for their daughters. But there has to be a level of respect there, that this is the person that I choose and whatever mistake I make, I'm gonna have to stand in it, I'm gonna have to own it. And there might be a time down the road

that you say, I told you so. But if I introduce you to somebody, I don't need you to, in this situation notwithstanding, just be respectful. Because I'm gonna demand my partner be respectful of you because you are my mom and you are an adult. You're older than she is. And so she's gonna give you a level of respect,

but in order to get respect, you're gonna have to give respect. Yeah. And I don't wanna be, listen, every time I come around, I'm not gonna be a referee. I'm not, I'm not, I to be, I'm listen, every time I come around, I'm not going to be a referee. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. That's good. That's not, that's not what I'm here for. Yeah. I, you know, I, I, I want my partner to be around to know my family, to, to, to my grandmother and my mom and my sister, my brother and family. But to come around and beat and to be be, you're not gonna be disrespectful.

You're not gonna call out her name. And my partner damn sure not gonna be disrespectful to you cause at the end of the day, that's still my mom. Yeah. She gave me life. So we're gonna be respectful. I demand respect on both sides. I demanded from my mom to respect my partner

and I demand my partner respect my mom. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough. I mean, listen, I mean, your, your, your mom is a little different than my mom was. I mean, there are other people's mom, they, they, they operate different in that, in that space when it comes to who their son might be dating. My mama don't give to, you know what, and didn't care who you were. You was, you was going to get it. Any small little

situation where things don't most of the time go her way or you don't check in. It's just weird some of the things that would trigger her and I would do everything I can in my power to de-escalate situations the best way I can And it was hard for me to even take my mama places with me. It was hard to take her to important stuff, red carpet events, because I know what's gonna happen. I know what's gonna happen. That's tough. And it never failed.

It never failed, even when I tried. It never failed. And chat, if y'all don't know about Hurricane Paula, you can go watch in action when we did Marriage Bootcamp together. My mom and I, we did Marriage Bootcamp together, family edition, where I tried to reunite and bring us a little closer together

because we were always at wits end. My grandma raised me, so I tried to do all I can to see if I can fix and rectify our situation as mother and son. And boy, she showed her ass. She showed her ass. She cussed everybody out. My thing is I'm never gonna curse my mom.

I'm never gonna be disrespectful to my mom. I'm just gonna have a conversation with my mom and like, Mom, look, I'm an I'm never going to curse my mom. I'm never going to be disrespectful to my mom. I'm just going to have a conversation with my mom and like, mom, look, I'm an adult now. Yeah, I'm not the little boy. Yes, I am. I'm still your baby. I'm the one that you gave birth to on June 26, 1968 in Cook County Hospital. That's me. Yeah. But I'm a man now. And I'm well. I'm in my right mind. I'm old enough, I'm wise enough to make decisions.

They might not be perfect. My grandmother had just the opposite approach. My grandma was like, I ain't gotta sleep with them. If you like them, I love them cause I ain't gotta spend one day with them son. That was my grandma. Anytime I brought someone, I didn't bring a whole lot of people around my grandma, but she say,

son, you the one they gotta live with them. Are you happy? And if they make you happy, you being happy makes me happy. And if my happiness is dependent on you, you being happy, son, do it. But you know, my mom, and look, my mom is, and I get it, but I would never, I wouldn't, my mom, and look, my mom is, and I get it,

but I would never, I wouldn't allow my mom, I probably would've like, you know, take my partner home, my girlfriend home, and then I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna have a conversation, I'm gonna have a deep conversation with my mom. And I'm gonna say, mom, that's disrespectful. I say, so in other words, you don't respect me.

So you don't give, you don't care about me. You don't care what I want. You don mom, that's disrespectful. I say, so in other words, you don't respect me. So you don't care about me. You don't care what I want. You don't care what I like. You don't care about my happiness. This ain't about you, mom. Right. This is not about you. And I understand you want what's best for your child.

All parents, I'm gonna say all. Most parents want what's best for their child if they have anything. Cause I've never gonna be that parent that I prepare. Oh, you think you better than me. What parents worth anything saying that to a child, you think you better than me. But I will have a conversation with my mom

that I thought that was very disrespectful. Yeah. The way you talk to her, the way you talk to me. Right. Hey mom, I'ma always love you, but if you can't respect the person that I'm with, I can't come around you. Yeah. Shoot, that shit there, boy.

Man, shit. You see that little speech you gave just now? Being nice about, man, you can't, I can't even come around. Man, my man, but carry your black ass on there. Fuck you and that bitch. But I wish you could have met my mama, man. I don't know how many people from the chat,

but as watching the show that's from the crib, that know about my old girl. Boy, she ain't play that shit, bro. Boy, she ain't play that. It don't care, it don't matter who he is. Everybody got it, coaches, teachers, friends, my girls, my kids, those I have kids from, everybody got it. Everybody was playing a game.

It's different. It was very different. The way my grandmother approached my girlfriends or people that I was dealing with, than my mom. Yeah. My grandma was like, you happy? Take care of the babies. Hey, cause I want them great,

I want them great grand to be around X, Y, Z. Alice, Mary Alice? Different ball game, huh? But the thing is that, that, you that, you know, you take mom, just because I have somebody in my life, that doesn't mean I love you any less. Just because I got a kid from this person, that doesn't mean that's gonna take any of my love from you.

You my mom. You always gonna be my mom. I'm always gonna do for you. But now I have responsibilities that I have to do for someone else also. Now I might not be able to do as much as I could do because I have other responsibilities. First and foremost,

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of the Challenge 40 Battle of the Eras. Listen to MTV's Official Challenge Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Do you understand how fortunate that young fella was to have a woman do something like that for him? Do you know how difficult it is to find a woman that's willing to extend themselves in that manner? In that manner, let alone the small things. But if you think about it today, in today's era, in today's society, everything is on us. Think about

it, man. Everything is on us. Everything. We have to do everything. You got a court, you got to buy, you got to do this. And if they do buy you something, it's probably your money anyway. True. You know? So the fact that she was willing to do this out of maybe love or whatever it may have been at that time. Oh, it's gotta be love.

What else could it be? Yeah. Yeah. You know, what the hell? Give me $60,000 that don't love. The funny thing about it is when you in love, you do things that you wouldn't do when you're not in love because you're thinking in your right mind. No, they say love is blinding.

I ain't got no cataracts. I can see just fine. Right, right, right. $60,000. You wouldn't do that? Be honest, if you were in love with a woman right now, you would tell her no. I ain't paying no $60,000 on no shit.

Oh, but nothing. I just said, you didn't listen to the scenario. If you were in love. No, Ocho, that's my wife is one thing. A girlfriend? Right. 60 grand? Hold on, oh Joe. That's my my wife is one thing our girlfriend right 60 grain Hold on. Hold on

Wife the rules are basically the same. The only thing that's different is the document in the ring I'm not I because you know what happening cuz when they broke up and she left the plate He beaten somebody else back in now. Guess what? I paid for those loans I'm paying that loan off if somebody got a somebody got a bent over the balcony. Oh, hey. Oh, hell no. Come on, Ocho. Well, let me tell you, listen, I had a I had a I had a I had a wonderful, beautiful saying, I've been saying all my life, what you have to understand. Now, I think we are put on earth to experience people. We're put on earth to experience people. And at times, my grandfather told me, long time ago, son, listen,

you're going to meet people. And I want you to always remember, she's not yours, it's just your turn. Yeah. She's not yours, it's just your turn. Yeah. She's not yours, it's just your turn. So you really can't think like that. Now, for me, for instance, you do things to extend that vacation. You do all the right things you can

to extend that vacation and that stay as much as possible. And you do all you can to keep an individual happy. So it maintains itself long-term. Look, I think the thing is, Ocho, for a situation like yourself, me or yourself. Yes, sir. 60 grand, that's a lot of money, but I'm not gonna,

I ain't gonna lose a night of sleep. Right, right, right. 60 grand for her is probably like, I ain't gonna say what night of sleep. Right, right, right. 60 grand for her is probably like... I ain't gonna say what it would be for me. I see what you mean, yes, sir. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. 60 grand is different for different people.

Right. For her, that is a stretch. Right. I'm not losing sleep over 65. Right, that's how you know it was love. Right, but the problem is, Ocho, is that, like I said, look, have I, have I, look, if I care about you, I want what's best for you. I don't want even most of the, most of the women that I've dated and they'll tell you this, all of them, if they've

ever asked me for something and I could do it, take off. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Not with a reason now. With a reason. Okay, I was waiting on that part. Okay, I was waiting on that. Because here, look, now, a lot of times I've been in a situation and they've always did me a solid. They didn't say anything negative about me,

didn't say anything bad. So they always good, in my book, they could always, they hey, Shannon, I need X. Okay, I got you. Shannon, I need Y. Cause I'm never gonna say anything bad about you. No matter what is transpired behind closed doors. That's why I don't do anything publicly

because I can break up privately. I can get with someone privately. But if I break it, but if I date publicly, if I'm posting, I'm doing all this, the moment, then people start to try to fish and try to figure things out. But any, any, any, any woman that I've dated, say in the last 30 years, if they've ever asked for something monetarily, and I could help them, I did. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. I like, I I did. Okay, okay. Yeah, I like how you said within reason. I like how you threw that, you know, within reason. Sometimes they're continued to take and take and take and take and push the limits to see how far they can go. No, I mean, I had one did me one solid. I ain't gonna tell y'all what the solid is. But when it came down, she said,

well, she had to not need a house. I ain't gonna tell y'all what the solid is. But when it came down, she said, well, she had an ID to house. I want to, I don't have a job. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Man, come on now. You said that a little too casually. Listen to me. You said that too casually.

She did me a solid. I be the real solid. Your boy was jammed up. Okay, okay, okay. I was in a bind. Okay, okay. I said, I tell you what, Okay. Okay. I was in a bind. Okay. Okay. I said, I tell you what.

In this situation, she could have came to me and got 60,000. Right. She could have came to me and got 100,000. Right. Right. Right. But she didn't do that. Right. You say, I just need the down payment. Right. I said, well, how much is the down payment? She said X. I said, if I give you Y, how much would your monthly payments be? Because I wanted to be as easy as it possibly can. So I tried to make it as easy as I possibly could. So her monthly payments would be something that she could manage where she wouldn't have to come back because I was in no position, I would have had no choice, consider what she did for me.

Right. OK, I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I like that. I understand wholeheartedly understand when you coming from based on based on circumstance. I like that. I like that. But you're real. I'm looking real one. All you, if you ever, any of my coaches, my coach, my college, my high school coach, I bought him a car. My remedial, his Spanish teacher, every game. She didn't want anything, she'd say, Shana, I just wanna come see you play. I'm just so proud of you.

But women that have been in my life, that have been good, and didn't try to harm, because you know, everybody ain't good. But if they've been good, they know they can get it. And I don't want nothing in return. It ain't no, oh, you getting the good, nah, nah, nah, I ain't spunting the block. I have it.

Yeah. Why you do, why you, okay. But she did, hey, for what she did for me? Right, right. Like I said, Ocho, oh yeah. I understand. You ain't even got, listen, you ain't even got to go in depth.

I get, from the passion in your delivery, I already know I'm with you. The man had the job for six months, Ocho. What you mean you working on his number? Who takes a job and you still trying to figure it out six months later, how much I will pay you? I'm just telling you, if I was an issue. Chad, am I out of line here?

I'm like, I'm trying to figure this out. So hold on, wouldn't it hard by getting the job at the job? What did Harbaugh get the job at the Chargers? Because maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me guys. Because you know, sometimes I have a sometimes I have a propensity. You got Harbaugh got a job J named head coach at Michigan. January 26th? He was named head coach January 26th. So February, March, April, May, June, July, August, here we are September.

So we've had eight months. You know who else doesn't have a contract that is deserving for the work He's put in and going to put in Jamar chase Who not enough Jamar chase has a contract Oh, no, no, he got two years left on the contract he signed that's not enough No, okay, but you said he'd had he doesn't have a contract. He actually does have a contract. He has two years left on the

contract that he signed on his rookie deal at all. Ron Moore does not have a contract. Okay, that period. No contract. Just trying to work out terms. They're trying to come to an agreement. So the come to an agreement. So the man was an intern. How many games did Harbaugh miss? Three, four? So he missed three games.

So you saw him intern. He kept the ship afloat. He was your OC. Called a national championship game. You won that game. You named him head coach on January the 26th. And you didn't work out a deal in February, March, April, May, June, July, August and here we are in September. They would do that.

Right. You think something else is going on that we don't know about? I don't know what's going on but I just know the other, I know other coaches don't get happy to do that. I don't want to make any speculations. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's maybe maybe maybe maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. Maybe I know the athletic director is that Michigan. We could always send him a message.

I just I just thought someone starts a job. It's already in place. You have the agreement, okay, here's the thing. Hey, yes! Who takes a job? I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this ain't just any job now. So let's, let's, let's try this. Put yourself in Mr. Moore's shoes.

If you were in his shoes, are you not taking the Michigan job because a contract has not been fulfilled yet? The contract, Ocho, the contract you worked out before you take the job, that's why you're taking it. Okay, but this one hasn't been worked out, are you gonna say, no I don't want to coach for Michigan because the contract hasn't been worked out? I'm just, I just want to see, I'm just asking. Are you not going to take the job because the contract hasn't done yet? Oh Joe, do you? The contract would have been done.

There is first of all, the contract is going to be done before you take the job. Who takes the job? It would be so you say you don't know. Oh Joe, the contract. I'm just hypotheic. Oh Joe, the contract would be done. Hypothetically speaking, if you were in his shoes with the opportunity that is presenting itself to coach the Michigan Wolverines and it wasn't in place, would you take it or not? You would say no because the contract. My agent would never let me take a job in which the contract would not contract

was done. Oh Cho! That'd be like that'd be like you said you know what I'm gonna get mad with no pre-nut worked out. We gonna work on it at a later date and time. You doing that? work on it at a later date and time. You doing that? Me? You talking to me? Well, yeah. But see, my situation, when it comes to that,

using, I mean, for better context, pre-nup. when it comes to that, for better context, pre-nup. Rail says, okay, Ocho, we gonna get mad. We gonna work out the contract. We gonna work out the pre-nup. You like, okay, Rail, we can work out the pre-nup at a later date and time. Whatever we gonna do, we gonna work out that at a later date and time.

And here we are, eight months in. So y'all been dating three and a half, four years. Right. And so now, because Ron Morris been there for a minute, he's been the old seat, and so now eight months into your marriage, you ain't nothing been signed, ain't nothing been settled.

Cause I'ma make sure if you try to leave me, I'm leaving with half, I ain't signing shit. Yeah, I get what you saying. I get what you saying. It I get what you're saying. It just, like I said, this ain't no regular program. This ain't just no regular job. We talk about it. That's my, oh, Joe, that makes it more egregious.

That's the University of Michigan. I think the fact that we're talking about it, I'm sure other people are talking about it as well. When the numbers do come across, we're gonna be like, oh, now we see why it took so long. Now they gonna take care of me. How you know? He ain't finna get dabble money. He not finna get no. Ocho, ain't no first year coach about to get no 12 million. Stop. I bet he hit double digits though. Let's bet. Bet $100.

I bet he don't. Bet $100, okay, bet $100, okay bet. I bet you 100. What college, Michigan played already, right? They played last week. And they play again, I guarantee you have a contract in place and I guarantee it is north of nine million before week three.

Okay, first of all, you said it's gonna be double digits. I said north of, what is north of nine million? Okay, I get your point. Okay, north of nine million is 10. You said double digits. But the fact of the matter is that this is a blue blood program. Like you said, it's not some small school. This is a preeminent program that probably spend a hundred million, two hundred million

had a hundred plus million dollar athletic budget. And you mean to tell me you've had this man working, recruiting. Yeah, you're right. You're right. I guess he doesn't have a contract. I mean, I see it from your point of view. I also see it from another point of view with the opportunity that that that presents itself at hand, working for this historic prestigious university, knowing they're going to take care of me at some point. They don't have me working for nothing because how do I know that? Why haven't they taken care of me? Because this ain't 7-Eleven,

this ain't H&M. This is the University of Michigan and I know they're going to cut that check. You would think they'd have taken care of him by now. Yes, sir. I understand. I totally understand what you mean though. I totally do. I promise you I do.

I don't know why it's going on. I don't know what they waiting on. But I'm just saying if the opportunity presented itself, if I was Mr. Moore with great understanding that it might not be done now, but I know they're going to make sure I'm good. 8 months? Okay.

Listen, you think 8 months long? let me ask you a question. You think eight months long? How long you think I made? How long? Just not to put my personal business out there. You know, I made I made real wait nine months before she even could get some. And you think that's long? There's no difference. But she had to work for that. But hold on. But but but what what what if real had to pay you for sex and say, well, oh, Joe, I I will pay you in eight months. You're exactly you see how you look at it now. Now, when you put it like that from a context, because I don't I don't I don't lay down for free. You right by there.

Yeah, that's my only thing to outro. I'm like, okay, normally when you like, okay, you come in for a job interview. Okay, okay, well, how much does the job pay? Okay, what are you, what are my expectations on the job? What's the job hours? What's the whole, what's the work schedule? Overtime, is that, okay, do I get health benefits?

Okay, do I get, you know, PTO? I'll come in with a job, I need CTO, choice time off. You know what I'm saying? No choice, no pay time off. I choose to take off. So all those things I'm working out, okay, Mr. Sharp, you got the job. Okay, thank you.

Oh, whoa, I got a job. How much did the job pay Okay, thank you. Oh, whoa, I got a job. How much does a job pay? I understand sometimes like medical, it can take 30 to 60 days before you get medical. I get that. But that ain't taking no damn eight months for me to get no back check.

I'm not familiar with these types of situations being that I've never been in a position to be a coach or work at a university like Michigan, so I don't know what's going on. I have no idea. Maybe if I was Paul Feinbaum, I'd have a better answer for you. But I don't know. I don't know.

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