Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Best of Ocho’s Resume

Episode Date: November 9, 2024

Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson does a deep dive into his stacked resume with Shannon Sharpe in this week’s Best Of episode. Ocho discusses everything from being the greatest route runner of all time and auditioning for T-Pain and Saweetie to wanting a job on Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders coaching staff and much, much more!03:00 - Ocho inducted into the Bengals ring of honor09:40 - Ocho greatest route runner of all time11:30 - Ocho’s attempt to collab on lyrics for super bowl commercial12:20 - Ocho is the FIFA expert. NBA players train with Ocho17:10 - Ocho’s time as a stripper19:00 - Ocho is the table tennis prodigy22:00 - Ocho wants a job on Prime’s coaching staff.27:10 - Ocho was a music video vixen29:10 - Ocho tests his rapping out on Unc36:19 - Ocho auditions for T-Pain and Saweetie(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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but I know you cried me a river. Oh, Justin Timberlake. Oh, baldhead Justin Timberlake. Trust me, I didn't cry, but I'm feeling good. Listen, I'm happy. Let me see your eye. Let me see your eye right quick. Oh yeah, you cry, you cry, you cry out in the car. I bet you cry out in the car. You cry out in the car.

I walked to the stadium. I walked to the stadium and I walked back here. Cause I wanted to be amongst the people. I wanted to be amongst the people. Yeah, I wanted to be amongst the people. And I wanted to feel that the love that I have missed for over a decade and some change. And that's exactly what it was. I had my be amongst the people. And I wanted to feel that the love that I have missed for over a decade and some change and that's exactly what it was.

I had my kids walk with me, I had the Mrs. walk with me, T.O. came out to support me, man. T.J. was with me. Man, listen, that felt good, man. That felt good to have my family with me and then my extended family, my extended family of 80,000 out there screaming that name,

hearing that Ocho, just the same way you explained it yesterday. You go into the ring of honor with a former colleague of mine, a boomer assassin. So tell me what was that moment like? You walking down as the half is about to end, you and your family and friends, you start to walk down

and now all of a sudden you're on the field and you start to get a little que like, oh man, this thing about to happen. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I kept thinking about happy thoughts and what I tried not to do, I tried not to go back to everything it took

to get to this point. Cause if I thought about everything it took to get to this point, as far as making it two, and getting that phone call from Mike Brown, and then all the ups and downs throughout my career, then the tears would have started flowing. I thought happy thoughts. I kept looking at my kids. I kept looking at the crowd, the focus, and keep myself locked in so I don't cry.

But that moment, I took it all in. I enjoyed it. You only get one of cry. But that moment I took it all in, I enjoyed it. You only get one of them. You only get one of them. You only get one of them. And man, I'm gonna save that moment, man, forever. Dude, I'm surprised also knowing how close you were to your mom and grandmother

and how special it would have been had they been there. Your mind just for a second didn't go there and say, damn, I wish granny, I wish mama. I purposely stayed away from that. I mind just for a second didn't go there and say, damn, I wish grandma, I wish mama. I purposely stayed away from that. I'm just telling you, I was able to compartmentalize mama, everything else that was bad, the journey to get to this point, happy thoughts, stare in the crowd, make eye contact with one person in the crowd and stay on that. You know, I didn't want to do it. I didn't want to break down in that moment

even though there would have been tears of joy, it would have been tears of sadness because I'm thinking about my mom and not here. I'm thinking about my grandma not here. Now what's going to happen behind closed doors when I get back to Miami tomorrow? Guess where I'm going with my ring on a jacket. I'm going to the graveyard.

They buried right next to each other. So I'm gonna have that moment with them. Let them see their baby. Hold up, hold up. Boy, you almost caught me. Hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You gonna let them see their baby

and say, hey, mama, granny, I did it. Yeah, let me get back right. Let me get back right. Cause you almost got me. You almost got me. Let me stop talking about that. But yeah, I'm gonna have that moment with them tomorrow. I'm gonna have that moment with them tomorrow, man.

And they deserve it. So since they couldn't be here, I'm gonna go that moment with them tomorrow. I'm gonna have that moment with them tomorrow, man. And they deserve it. So, since they couldn't be here, I'm gonna go ahead and bring it to him. You're going to them. I got it. Ocho, congratulations. I know this night was very, very special for you and your family and friends.

To go into a team's ring of honor, it goes to show that that doesn't go unbeknownst. Because a lot of people said, you know what? We think his play on the field and his behavior off the field is worthy of him representing the Cincinnati Bengals of perpetuity. I like that, I like that, I like that. You know what?

I'm gonna get one of them gold ones too. I'm gonna get one of them gold ones too. I'm gonna get one of them gold ones too. And if I don't get one, guess what I'm gonna go do? You gonna work for Century 21? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna go make me a gold one. I'm gonna go make me one. I'm gonna go make my own.

I'm gonna make my own bust too. I'm gonna make my own bust. Because I know where they get them done at. And it's gonna be one of one. You hear me? It's gonna be one of one. You know what that like? Listen.

Yeah, one of one. One of one. Make my own, make my own Hall of Fame jacket. Hey, Ocho. She back here asleep, man. Who is that? You say you wanted a bust? Oh, you're gonna. Hey, Ocho. 101. Oh, you gonna spend that kind of money? Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Cause they ain't gonna spend it on me.

I got it, I got it, I got it. I got the dude for me, ain't that what you told me? Ain't that what you just told me? I did, I did. I'm gonna make my own bus. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna make my own, I'm making my own Hall of Fame jacket. Make my own jacket, yeah.

With some, yeah, I'm gonna put the 14 karat gold glitter on my jacket. If, if I, you know what you know now, and I can transport you back to your rookie season. Yes, sir. What type of numbers do you believe Ocho could put up? To my rookie seat in today's game? I'm gonna, you know what you know now.

Right. But I'm gonna transfer you back to your rookie season with the knowledge that you have now. Of the game, right. Yes. I think consistently, probably 1400 consistently. Consistently. You say 1600 consistently? 1400 consistently. 14istently. You say 1600 consistently?

1400 consistently. 14. 14. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, especially during that time in that era dealing with that Ravens defense and dealing with that Pittsburgh defense, you know, the numbers get a little low when you play against them.

But as far as everyone else, I'm just being honest. Them boys ain't play. Just being honest. But outside of the division, it's, oh, I'm going crazy, but you know, those divisional games are always close and they really minimize my production very, very well. Right.

Yeah, well, especially with what I know now. I wish it was reversed. Who is the better route runner? Ochoa, AB. Uh-oh, uh-oh! That's a good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.

Yeah, now you wanna be there bummin' them. You were bummin' them just earlier. You know what the funny thing about it? The funny thing about it is, is people won't even know, me and AB trained together for the past, what? They ain't ask you that. 13, 14 years.

They ain't ask you that. They ask you a simple question. Who's the better route runner? They ain't ask you who you train with not get people it depends Who I'm the great I'm the greatest route runner of all time Say I'm the great lady. Let me stop. Let me let me talk. Let me say something I'm the greatest route runner of all time. There's one receiver. Listen to me. I don't stay with me, baby There's one receiver and you get you can, and NFL Films has all the footage that can come to the line of scrimmage

and before the snap of the ball, tell the DB my route and still get open. There's only one person that's ever done that. Let me finish. There's one receiver that before the season started, he had a list of every DB, every DB in his locker, it was checking them off week to week. There's only one. You check the reels? I don't care what nobody else did.

No, I'm talking about early in my career. Oh, okay. I can't ask you no questions. I'm talking about early in my career. You said stay with me, stay with me, stay with me now. Stay with me. I'm trying to keep up with you now. The funny thing about it, that's one man.

And not only that, it ain't really bad to lose to that one man, because that one man is one of the greatest they ever played a game. So he got you, Ojo, Ocho, but just for what that would have said about you, if you would have did a number on it. Huh? Huh, I mean you heard exactly what I said. No, I would have said, I would have said I got lucky.

Cause that motherfucker was good boy. That nigga Reavis had the motherfucking patience of Sallie Mae. Because you know, ain't nobody paying that money no time soon, but at that line of scrimmage he ain't biting that first move Ocho don't embellish did Toby uh Wiigiwi is that the guy that wrote no Toby Toby Toby Wiigwe. Wiigwe okay yeah did he write all the lyrics or did you have some input speaking about excessive celebration with Toby you didn't do do nothing though, Toby? No, he wrote my lyrics. He wrote my lyrics, but it was perfect for me based on who I was. So the lyrics were perfect. So I came up with my own lyrics, but the NFL wouldn't, they wouldn't clear

it because when I rap, I like the curse. So we had to get clearance from the NFL because yeah, this is a Super Bowl commercial. It's a Super Bowl commercial. So, you know, they ain't playing about that. Oh know, they ain't playing about that. Oh no, they ain't playing about that. Absolutely. Yeah. I went with Toby Lier because that is his profession. He's really good at what he does.

Toby, I appreciate you. I know you're going to see this. I love you. But I was just grateful. I was grateful for the opportunity to work with one of the best artists in the game today. And it was dope. So right now I really think I'm a rapper. Hey Ocho, I've been trying to challenge Ocho

on Xbox to a game of FIFA, but he been ducking me. So I figured this is the best way to contact him. Love you guys, please don't stop making this show. So Jose Jalapeno on a stick, say you been ducking him. He say he want that smoke on FIFA. Well, technically, how I know Jose on a smoke jalapeno ain't really serious about no goddamn FIFA and he even called motherfucking FIFA no more. It's called EAFC. So that let me know he's sorry as hell. He said he want to beat you on whatever

it's called. Whatever you call it. He ain't gonna lose to me. He ain't gonna lose to me because he even saying the title right. He know how to find me. Anybody in the gaming world knows my game of tag and they know how to find me. I ain't hard to find. You scared? Child please. You scared?

I ain't hard to find. You scared? I mean I find you. I know you. Even if I'm scared, I ain't hard to find. All you gotta do is pull up. What you running from? Same reason you wanna play me one on one.

Ocho. I have Ocho. The last time. I don't care about your surgeries, I don't care about your hip, play me one on one. I don't wanna hear none of that. The last time I shot a basketball, I weighed about 212 pounds. I'm about 247 and I'm a lot more muscle bound now than I was then. What does muscle have to do with Dwight Howard? Muscle bound too. He ain't made no excuse. And he can't shoot with a lip. Well, you better go to the hoop.

You better go to the hoop and try to lay it up. Go to the hoop and try to lay it up. Ocho, Ocho, see I just, hey, all I'm gonna do is dribble just like this here. That's fine, that's fine. I'm coming up right up under that and I'm stealing the ball. Next.

Oh Lord. Next. Ocho, you can't play no basketball. You didn't play basketball in high school. Yo, did you not listen to me when I told you multiple shows ago, the NBA players come to train with me to help with their off the ball movement and come, what? And come out the dribble.

All I know on the all area team, if you go back and look at 19, what was that? 85 or 86. I know two players made the team. Shannon Sharp and Purvis Ellison. You ever heard of him? I'm talking about 20, 23. I want to play one-on-one at it. I come to LA. I come to LA, get your camera crew so we can have some footage. Nightcap, Ocho versus Ocho. I tell you what, I'll play you in the basketball, you come in the gym and work out with me.

I can't cause I'm boxing right now, I cannot lift any weights. Oh, look at Holyfield, Holyfield lifted. Holyfield lifted. Please understand, I cannot lift weights, I can only do band work right now. Cannot be inability to do something. Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson has the ability. I cannot lift heavy weights right now because I have a fight coming up.

That ain't got nothing to do with me. I cannot shoot light basketballs right now. You understand I'm training for something. Yes you can. Okay D. What you training for? Are you training for Mr. Olympia? I'm training to put these little pythons around your neck. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side and Liar's Poker.

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Listen to 10 takes on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. ["I'm On My Way To Hell"] Oh, 1998, the year I was ineligible at Santa Monica College. I was ineligible at Santa Monica College. I was ineligible in 1988. 1998, man, my mama pissed.

My grandma wouldn't even let me come back to Miami. Like, listen, baby, I done watched my grandma. I watched my, it's her favorite line. I washed my hands. I done all I can do. Make sure you stay up there with your mama in LA. Shoot, I had to make a living. Boom. I was working at the Right Track, you know,

exotic club, you know, so I was dancing, making a little living. I was bringing in about like 2,500 a night. Right Track, off of Florence. Yeah, off of Florence, yeah. Hold on, women pay to see you get naked? Man, listen, listen. Or they pay to see you put your clothes on?

Cause you probably walked back there with them. I ain't trying to be funny. I told you we family now. I wrote that the right track on Florence. This way back in 1998. They used to call me, they used to call me Twix. Cause I, you know, I was tall and I had a lot of veins, but I wasn't big.

So I was skinny. I thought they called you Twix for another reason. I thought they called you Twig. No, no, no, no, they called me Twix. And always what I learned about the nightlife and obviously when you're dancing as a dancer, you're always dancing for the BBWs, the big women, because they tip well.

They tip real good. Yeah. They tip real good. So I would make a $2,500 a night. And I was, I was. You ain't a lady if you ain't 180. What? 210, count your boy in. Ooh, we we I like that one. I like that one

Having 20 get making Friday Saturday Sunday $20 a night you and going to school going to school Monday morning trying to get my grades together So I'm eligible for the for the following football season man. I would live I would live in life Living life then boom. That's when I got my grades together, played in 1999. Dennis Ericsson gave me that one shot at Oregon State. I ain't looked back since. Alec Hurst said, one game to win. Everyone in their prime.

Unc with LeBron, Ocho with Jordan. But, really? We're gonna beat the dog. Wait, oh, wait, in basketball? I don't care what it is. Basketball, shooting pool, table tennis, what are they called, court hall, I don't care.

Listen, whatever it is we play, whatever it is, if me and Jordan are teaming up against you and LeBron or anything, whatever it is we play whatever it is if me and Jordan teaming up against you and LeBron anything whatever it is we play you are the liability and the reason y'all gonna lose you can't dribble you can't shoot you can't play table tennis you can't shoot no pool you can't bowl that but man we would we would wipe you out and Oh Joe, did you know I have my own cue? They call you boy. I got my own cue too. You heard the Minnesota Fats.

They call your boy Georgia Slim. I beat him. I beat Fats. I beat Miss Coney. Willie Miss Coney. I beat Steve Mizorak. Boy, you better stop playing with me. Gerda Halstead.

Go ahead, we're going to go ahead with that man. The Black Widow. Oh Joe, stop playing with me. The black widow. Stop playing with me. Go ahead, man. Come on, man. Hey, who you beat again? Willemiscone, Steve Miserat. What they what they what they what they what they what they call you?

Hey, you better stop playing. Hey, you better stop playing. Oh Joe, you better stop with me. Oh Joe, we beat the breaks up, y'all. Hey. Man, trust me, they had nothing. Nothing with me and Jordan team. Oh, and table tennis? I'm telling you who the liability is.

Oh, I was a fan of table tennis. Oh, don't do that. I'm Roger Federer, table tennis. Now, right there, I'm going to stop you right there. I'm going to stop you right there. One thing you're not going to do is you ain't going to sit here and put no laughs do that. I'm Roger Federer, table tennis. Now right there, I'm gonna stop you right there. I'm gonna stop you right there. One thing you not gonna do is you ain't gonna sit here and put no laughs like that. He on God's green earth about beat me

in no table tennis, boy. I was the Charles Hadley table tennis champ in 1985, all the way to God damn 1999. Ain't lost to nobody in Liberty City. That's what I'm saying, Liberty City. Don't do that. Everybody king of the block in Liberty City. Nah, boy, I come from the whole of true table tennis champions.

What did you talk about, man? The Chinese wanted me to come play for them. Yes! They wanted you to come play for them. They the ones that told me I had to play. I couldn't betray my country. You better start playing with me. Man, don't do that, man.

No, that's the table tennis. Don't do that, man. Don't do that shooting pool. Don't do it to yourself. I'm the president of the House of Humberdade. Cornhole, don't do it to yourself. First of all, I know you can't play no pool because you didn't know how many balls were on the table.

That's first of all. You ain't know nothing about no eight ball. You ain't know nothing about no nine ball. You ain't know nothing about no nine ball, you ain't know nothing about no six ball, you ain't know nothing. So stop. You not beating me in any of these games you talk about. I got a question. But he don't understand.

Okay, I got a question. So listen, listen, I'm gonna put you on the spot. I'm gonna put you on the spot right now. Since I already had 37 jobs, let's make it 38. How about you hire me to come be the assistant receiver coach? You don't wanna do that. You ain't dedicated like that. But I didn't have instruction disciplines in 1960.

Yeah, but you ain't dedicated like that. You ain't even talked to me like that. You dedicated to play, but you ain't dedicated to coach. You ain't do that. You ain't like that. So you basically, you gonna try to give me some mumbo jumbo and just say, you know what, I don't wanna hire you. Why don't you just say no.

I will bring you in as an analyst, but you can't be there every day. You ain't gonna be there every day. I know you, you do know I know you. Listen, I love the kids. I got enough. I got enough mums. Yeah, you love the kids.

That's one thing, you love the game. But you're not gonna be there every day. I'm going, where's your coach? Where am I be at? He'll get back at us. He text all of us this morning, he'll get back at us. But see, before he got the job, we didn't have the job at Jackson State.

We talked at least four, five times a day. Really not about football, it's a lot about a bull giant. Okay, he goes to Jackson State, and I call him two, five times a day. Really not about football, it's a lot about a bull giant. Okay, he goes to Jackson State and I call him two or three times a week, mainly about bull giant, a little bit of football. But when he got there, that's the first thing I said, I gotta let him get his seat wet, let him get in there,

let him get in there, figure that thing out, and then I will hit him up. Now, this year ain't gonna be like last year, cause you already know what to expect. And then you gonna gotta do that. You know what I just thought about? Hey, I just thought about it. I done got turned down two brothers that I love.

Y'all supposed to uplift me. I done asked both of y'all to do something for me. Unc, I done asked Unc, right? I've been begging him for three months, man, get me on first tape. He done sold me a dream. I done asked you to let me come be a coach at or assistant at Colorado.

You done told me no. So both of y'all done turned me down. And we got a bunch of people. I mean. You do know we know you. Y'all supposed to be helping me climb the mountain. I know I heard what Shannon did to you, but he was right. He said, let me get in here first and let me work it out

and let me do my thing. He done been in there three months, three months. He ain't all the way yet. He don't know everybody's name. He just getting in there and you know, he just getting straight. He just got the whole makeup situation straight. So, you know, he just getting that right.

What? What? You grown up. See, I knew you. You dirty time. You dirty. You dirty. Anyway, he got all that straight. Now he good. I know you.

I been knowing you. You know I know you. Listen, if you give me a job, I will move to Colorado, man. I will uproot everything in Miami and I will come to Colorado. You know that. I promise you. Boy, if grandma wasn't a lad right now, she'll cut you out Boy, if grandma wasn't a liar right now, she'll cut you out. You know if grandma wasn't a liar right now,

she'll cut you out. Now you know, you know who I'm telling time. And Shannon, when I'm talking about his grandma, that was my girl. He know grandma cuts him out if he's a liar. Grandma know I know you. I got my right hand up. I got my right hand up.

That's the left one, bro. That's your left one. That's your left hand. On TV that's your right, but that's your left one. That's your left one, okay. That's your left one. On TV that's your right, bro. That's your left one, okay. We ain't know you! That's why we know you! That's why we already know you!

That's why we already know you! I just want an opportunity, man. I'm trying to get with y'all. I just want an opportunity. Time, time. I give him a, I give him a platform, get him on here three, four times a week. I got the full time.

Tell me, you ever been on time? You always on time. I ain't never late. I ain't never late. Now, listen, I might not wear watch that work, but I'm gonna be on time. Now, now, not historically. I don't care about all that.

Well, I've never been late nowhere. I set my watch five minutes ahead on purpose so I never go anywhere, never be anywhere late. Do you really want me to call Marvin Lewis right now? Huh? Well, I ain't never showed up late to no meeting. Oh yeah, you know you lie. Not that correct.

You know what, I got CTE, I can't remember. You lived at the complex, how you live at the complex if you was late? Yeah, exactly. I don't understand. Oh no, I over, I can't even remember. You lived at the complex. How you live at the complex usually? That's exactly what he's saying. Oh no, I over, cause nobody woke me up. Nobody woke me up. That was early in my career now. Hold on.

Do you remember the strength and conditioning coaches Chip and Friday? Yeah, Ray and Ray Oliver and Oliver. Since then, because I'm talking to you. Chip, Chip Morton. Yeah. Yeah, and then Friday came in as an assistant. Okay, so you know I know that we know that we know each other. It's like a fraternity.

Yeah, I mean, we all family, we all family, but I just don't like when I don't like things being said about me that aren't true. Sometimes, you know. That was true though. That's not true. One thing about it, I'm never late. No, that was true though. You was late. That was true though. One thing about it, I'm never late. No, that was true though.

You was late. You lived in the complex. Like how do you do that? But you said they ain't wake you up. I take that. Yeah, they ain't wake me up. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you've been in the grocery store

and starving. How you starving in a grocery store? I don't even understand that though. Jordan Hackley, what's up Shannon, Chad, big fan of the show. I have a question for you, Ocho. How did you end up in Monica's everything to me music video? Oh, you know, I was a video vixen back in the day.

How'd that happen? I did, I did, I did a little bit of everything. Yeah. You know, I did, I lived a little bit of acting, you know, uh, I did a little amateur, you know what, I mean, that's the whole other story when I was in college and then it transitioned into being a video vixen. So I'm really well-rounded and very cultured.

So I've really been around the block and done everything, you know, and I consider that a job. It paid me a little something in the off season. Man, you know what, Ocho, man? I enjoy it. Not to cut you off. Man, I should have told that. Man, you know how many people, Ocho, I ain't gonna lie.

Do you know people come up with that? I mean, I've had women to ask me, no, talking about that, about you wouldn't let me order no lobster on the first date I say oh Now that was a great topic that was that was the running the running conversation on Twitter for about being there two weeks now two three weeks Even a pilot I was on a flight

Even the pilot, I was on a flight. Right. Pilot be asking me questions. I'm talking about, that's one of the, that's probably the question that, I mean, probably the most question that women ask, can I call, can I address you as, can I call you up? They ask me about the lobster. And they asked, you really get upset? I mean, you really make your partner go to another room to pass gas?

Absolutely. But then was classic topics, classic. Luda don't get the love and respect that he deserved cause he's a lyricist. And his flow is impeccable. Always whether he on his own or he on a feature. Luda gonna give you that work. So don't play with that man.

You know I can rap too now. What Christmas over we don't need anything else rap. Nah I'm just saying this is my own. I'm gonna give you one let me give you one bar. this is my own. I'm gonna give you one. Let me give you one bar. What kind of bar? I'm gonna give you one bar. You ready? You listening? I got a bar right back here. What you need?

Nah, listen. Let me just give you one bar real quick. Okay. My grandmother was blind. And I had to read in Braille. Every time I think about it, it was a touching story. You get it? No, no, I get what you're trying to go with it. My grandmother was blind and I had to read in Braille.

It was a touching story. Yeah, you know what? You told that story about your grandma reeling in Braille. Before you make me mean. Next time you wake up You gonna be in hell. You don't make fuck I don't want to give you this boat. I Like that. I like that. Hey, I got that. I got that from torque torque. I appreciate you, baby

I just I just use your life see imitation. Yeah It's a purest form of flatter. Yeah Hey, that was nice on bring that back It's a purest form of flatter. Yeah. Hey, that was nice. Bring that back one more time. I ain't bringing that back. Ocho, fair question.

Ocho, the wrong road, the wrong road can railroad your career. The same as the wrong song, album can kill your career as a singer, rapper. Listen, in acting, if you ain't that boy, you right here turning down roles, it ain't like role just be, ain't just coming at you like that. You might be good and take the wrong road and it derails you. It's kind of like a quarterback going to the wrong team. We see guys go, ooh.

Oh, like my dude, Zack, like Zack Wilson. Yeah. And you know what, I never thought about it like that. I never thought about it like that. Not as you opened my eyes and the people in the chat are obviously opening my eyes when it comes to those that are acting, those that are in that field. I'm thinking, you know, shit, if you're good

and you're really good at what you do, you will always have opportunities. And the role you take, it shouldn't divert what it is you're trying to do or or where you trying to go and getting more. What's the old adage? You never get a second chance to make a first impression. Hey, hey, I like that. That's why, because okay, Ocho, we do this, we bomb.

How do we reinvent it to come back for people to come back and watch again? They're like, we already heard that. Right. We already saw that, we good. Right. You get one chance to get it right. Especially when you're dealing with,

it's not like, look, we got family and friends who's gonna watch us regardless. But we're asking people that have really no connection, no affiliation to us to tune in, listen to what we have to say, be educated, be entertained, and to come back once, twice, three, four times a week. And you know what, by the way, check out your favorite uncle and club, Shea Shea.

That's what we're asking. Yeah, you've got to get and you don't get a second chance at that. People are unforgiving. Have a bad meal at a restaurant. How many times you have a bad meal? They like well, you know, it was just bad this time. They're like, no, I'm good. Right. I got one more question. I mean, in the chat chat, I need y'all to help me out. Listen, listen to me real quick. I understand Hollywood in a sense. I understand acting in a sense. I've heard the frustrations and the gripes for many of people throughout the years in general, how hard it is

to get roles, how hard it is to get jobs. So when you say you don't want to take certain roles, like so many opportunities are being presented to you to be able to take certain roles like so many opportunities are being presented to you to be able to turn down roles. How do they navigate in that area, in that field, and in that space when it's already hard to get roles and you have to turn stuff down because of what it might be and it might derail your career when you can't even get your career off the goddamn ground because you're turning shit down because you're not getting enough opportunities to begin with. Faker, look at it like this. That's the part that's confusing me a little bit.

Let me enlighten your eyes. How much money you think I can make if I were to say my people, my community, it's our fault, all of our fault that we're in this position and take some of the approaches that we've seen other people take? They'll write me a check as big a check as long as the Hollywood sign.

I refused to compromise anything because at the end of the day, I gotta lay down with me. Money don't make me, I make it. All money ain't good money. Because at the end of the day, now I'm not saying that anything that can't say it about these people, cause I don't know these people. I don't have, I don't have knowledge of what he said.

He says he has information. Okay. But at the end of the day, Ocho, I prepare as well as I can. And I'm not always right when it comes to predicting the score, but I can honestly say when I critique a player, there's no malicious intent involved. I've done as much research as I possibly can on a given topic. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis,

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I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're going to welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm Bob Granckowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're gonna welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show. We're gonna highlight players, peers,

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We'll break down their games. We'll share some insider stories and determine what kind of dude each of these dudes are. Is Randy Moss a stud or a freak? Is Tom Brady a dog or a dudes dude? We're going to find out, Jules. New episodes drop every Thursday during the NFL season. Listen to Dudes on Dudes on the iHeartRadio app,

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the podcast you find right here. In each episode of the season, I'm gonna take you inside and behind the scenes of the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. We're bringing the top GMs, top coaches, the young coordinator you're getting to know. We're gonna give you the story behind the story,

but you're probably not getting anywhere else. Like all-pro Jets cornerback, Sauce Gardner. You know, as a defense, we looking forward to adding on where we left off last season and just continuing to get better. Like first-year Atlanta Falcons offensive coordinator Zach Robinson. Bijon, he's got a ball every single play and he's gonna make a play. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week,

but the next week you're gonna be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast. Music is awesome. It's like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schreger on the I heart radio app Apple podcast Wherever you get your podcast What you want to say oh Joe I want to have a single I I want to have a sing-off. I want to have a sing-off.

I got to sing tonight. Sing-off, I got to... You coming to my residency? Wait. I could... Matter of fact, let me perform with you. Come on up there. No, I'm serious.

You have the shortest residency in Vegas. That should be one night only. With T-Pain featuring Ocho. No, no, no, no, no. Listen, I moved the needle now. I can sing. If you want an example, let me know. Go ahead. Hit a note right there. Go ahead. Move the needle.

You gotta take a shot. Got me fucked up. You got to stand up, cuz you know, you got to stand up some jack. Diaphragm and stuff. Ah. The diaphragm and stuff. That was it. That was the... I'm so in love with you. I know one of those notes.

Whatever you want me to. One of those. That's it. That's it. That's it. You gotta do the... I'll do right... You, you... Sure. Yeah. What you think, what you think?

I'll take that, that was... One to ten, one to ten, be honest, be honest. Because my vocal coach ain't here, she in Miami. I will say this, on one to ten, that's a hot four. You did good. I said a hot four, that's almost a five. I'm telling you, that's a good, that's good. A hot four.

I'm telling you, you did that. You playing gay you more than what I was gonna give you. What you gave you? It wasn't on the scale that you put it in, one between one and 10. I needed to be lower than one. That's messed up. I need a negative energy.

You gave me something to work with. I got, see, I can throw a bunch of auto-tune on that and make something happen. Auto-tune, I can throw a bunch of auto tune on that and make it make something happen To not sound like a tin Cartoons ain't enough to Looney Tunes ain't enough to make a boy sound good Teeba I'm telling you I didn't know I didn't hurt a lot of real bad singers get turned into real good singers But just a little bit engineer like him. I just a little bit of engineering. They sound like him? I mean, a little bit worse, actually. Oh my goodness. There we go.

Some critically acclaimed artists. Thank you. Really? Yeah, some of these artists, y'all think, y'all think. Prada Tours could do that? Oh, man, let me tell you. That's why everybody thought I was, that's why everybody thought I was, I was paid for it.

They didn't know how talented you actually were because you had that. Yeah, yeah. No, you got to be able to make it sound good. You got to sing in some kind of capacity to make it sound good. But with the right engineer and a bunch of money behind you absolutely you can go well. He did an engineer from MIT Both of y'all rich enough to do anything you want I've got to stay in my wheelhouse. I know you're hiding your finances from all these people

I'm sorry I'm here to tell you. Ocho the cheap one. I mean, I swear. Even though he was on a bombadilla the other day. Nope, nope. I didn't pay for nothing. You didn't pay for nothing? I ain't pay for nothing, no sir.

And they think I'm flying back with them, it ain't happening. Why not? No, absolutely. That was very uncomfortable, it just wasn't me. I like, listen, I ain't even got fucking pre-check. I ain't got pre-check. People say- You gotta figure that out. Listen, me and my old lady. We go to the airport. She got pre-check

She say why you give pre-check for what what am I paying? $85 for and we get to the gate at the same time. We've told at the same time. We landed the same time A year, no, you don't No, you don't understand Y'all y'all understand what I'm saying? No Listen listen to me if y'all got pre-checked, right? Okay, we get to the airport at the same time Okay, all y'all go through first. Okay, I go stand in line with the people When they call the board we still board at the same time So where's the fucking convenience you waited two hours and I was sitting in the sky club But we still bought at the same time. So where's the fucking convenience you waited two hours and I was sitting in the sky club

But we still bought at the same time With the people I'm gonna be at the gate like he about to miss that Yeah Cuz I'm one of the ones I will leave Because I'm one of the ones, I will leave your ass. Y'all don't understand. I will leave this nigga, man. Y'all don't understand. Y'all don't understand the value of the dollar.

We do understand because you're going to come through, because you're one of them people that be stuffing all your jewelry in one pocket in your backpack. And I know that, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to check that. It's going to show up black on the screen at the TSA. They're going to check that. Y'all not thinking logically. This your bag?

Is this your bag, sir? Sir, is this your bag? First class. I'm going to have to run it again, okay? All right. All right. I'm gonna have to run it again, okay? Alright, alright. I'm gonna need you to take all this stuff. Can you take all the electronics out? I see an iPad in here. You can't bring the iPad through sir. You cannot bring the iPad.

If it got a keyboard on it, you gotta take it out. What's all this right here? Is that water? That's not water. Okay, I'm gonna have to run it again, okay? And then they take all your shit out, and then they run it run it again And it is okay. Thank you. Have a nice day All your sister sprawled out over the goddamn exactly I don't travel like that. I'm at the gate. I'm at the gate with Apple vision pro on you putting all your shit back in your bag You fly first class. Yeah. Yeah, you fly first class? Yeah. You fly first class? Absolutely.

All y'all fly first class? Yeah, mostly. Yeah, they're the best. I'm just asking. I only fly exit row. You fly first class? Exit row. 13A, Spirit Airlines.

13A, Spirit Airlines every time. See, that's a seat with responsibilities. I ain't telling you that. That's a seat with responsibilities. Yeah, because if you're at exit row, you got to be able to open the door. That's a seat with responsibilities. I ain't done it. That's a seat with responsibilities. Yeah, because if you're at exit road, you got to be able to open the door. Sir, are you willing and able to help

in the state of emergency? Yes, and I can fly too. I got my pilot's license. First of all, let me tell you, ma'am, I don't know how much this door weigh. You got to let me get a practice run or some shit before we take off. I don't know how much this is.

I'm like, yeah, I can handle that shit as soon as we going down. I picked that, oh, wait, bitch, hold on. This shit is, hey, ma'am, I'm gonna need about two of y'all. Hey, somebody else, you asked somebody else, does somebody else wanna sit here? Somebody else is a doctor in the goddamn plane. Bitch, I don't know.

Y'all don't understand. Everybody love first class. Oh, I'm in first class. I'm an exero. When the plane land, we still get off at the same fucking time. No, you don't. Yeah.

No, you don't. No, you don't. You know why? Because I'm getting off, and then it's that one old ass man that can't get his bag down, right? And your ass is stuck on the plane and I'm sitting at the gate again

with an Apple vision pro on like, this nigga ain't even coming. I don't know. What the? What the? Y'all don't understand, man. Yeah we do. We do understand.

This is why we do what we do. First class is a waste of money. Pre-check is a waste of money. We all get to the same destination at the same time. We get on the plane at the same time. We de-plane at the same time. Let me ask you a question. When you was growing up

and you were thinking about making money and getting out, so what did you want to do? So you wanted to make money to stay the exact same. You don't dress the same you did when you was in Liberty City. I look just like this. No, you don't. You think you have a Cuban?

Yes. Best out line. I had a Cuban at 14. Boy, you was born in church mice. No. Boy, a robber broke in your house in Liberty City. Y'all robbed him. No, no, no.

Tied him up and everything. I have a question. Did y'all, y'all saw Griselda? So who'all saw Griselda you see Griselda. Yes. Yeah Man, I was a runner for Griselda back in 88. Oh my god So you didn't run track I promise you No Griselda was in Kendall, I understand what's going on, but that don't mean you was a... No, I work for Big Ike. I'm telling you. Bae-bae. I can't...

All I know is bae-bae be dressing. Bae-bae be spending that money. So I don't know what you doing, but I know bae-bae. Yeah. Listen, I'm here to tell my stories, and I'm just telling you the truth. I can sing. I don't like pre-checking. I don't need first class. Yeah. So you don't spend the money, Raelle's spending it.

She's spending my own money. No, that's you spending your money. Shit me. Well that's why she said, hey Raelle, pre-dub, pre-dub. Yeah. That's fine. So she can continue to spend her money. That's right.

And you can't spend none of it. I'm not signing it. That's okay. If she decided to leave me, I'm leaving with something. You ain't leaving with nothing. Leave what you came it. That's okay. If she decide to leave me, I'm leaving with something. You ain't leaving with nothing. Leave what you came with. That's it. The McDonald coupons.

You gotta sign it. Take them all with you. You gotta sign it. You gotta sign it. You gotta sign it. Wow, you hear T-Pain? You gotta sign it. You gotta sign it.

It's like the Apple terms and conditions. What you gonna do, not use it? Yeah. You gotta sign it. You gotta sign it. That's what it is. It's like insurance. I ain't really trying to go out there and hit somebody, but if I do, I need to got it. You got it. That's what it is. You got it. It's like insurance. I ain't really trying to go out there and hit somebody,

but if I do, I need to know it's taken care of. Absolutely. LA says she trying to divorce you, but just in case, she need all what she can't need. You need security. You need that insurance. It's not happening. I need security.

The same lifestyle that she- Well, go hard. No, no, no. Go hard, pick it up. Listen, you gotta understand. The same lifestyle that she's... Well, go hard. No, no, no. Listen, you gotta understand. The same lifestyle that she's provided me since she came into my life, I'm leaving with that. You gotta understand, if we didn't have these lights up here, the people that's the color of us, if we didn't have these lights, we'd be just teeth and eyes up here. We got to have some kind of backup plan or something.

It's some lighter, some lighter, huge people out here. They ain't got no problems. We got the problems. We can't be seen like that. We can't have tinted windows. You got to have that insurance. You got to be ready to crash. Yeah, all right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm just protecting myself. I get it. I get it. So collabs, how many features, how many collabs are on the album with you? I mean, typically I like to get the song done and then get the features afterwards. Ahem.

Go ahead. She said a feature. Collab. Huh? I rap. Oh. Yeah, I rap. You do?

Let me hear something. Huh? Let me hear something. Go ahead. I'm not the one to play with. Let me hear something. Huh? Prevux. Let me hear something. You want, um... Go ahead. I'm not the one to play with. They call me Ocho. Bitch, I got a itch.

That's it. That's it for now. Okay, a little freestyle. Yeah, yeah, a little something. You can write for me. Ain't nobody gonna know. Okay. Yeah.

Baby, I got another job. No, you don't. The volume. You can write for me. It ain't nobody gonna know. Okay. Yeah. Baby, I got another job. No, you don't. I'm exploring what it means to be a sports fan in America and what the rise of sports betting is doing to our teams, our states, and ourselves. Join me and listen to Against the Rules on America's number one podcast network, iHeart. Open your free iHeart app and search Against the Rules. Listen to Against the Rules on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

Muhammad Ali, George Foreman, 1974. George Foreman was champion of the world. or wherever you listen to podcasts. All the biggest black artists that on the planet together in Africa. It was a big deal Listen to rumble Ali Foreman and the soul of 74 on the iHeart radio app Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcast I'm Julian Edelman I'm Rob Granckowski and we are super excited to tell you about our new show dudes on dudes We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories, crazy details, and honestly, just having a blast talking football. Every week, we're discussing our favorite players

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In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast. Music is awesome. Incredible. Very good.

It's very kind of like a funky beat. Listen to the season with Peter Schreger on the iHeartRadioApp, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey everyone, I'm Madison Packer, a pro hockey veteran going on my 10th season in New York. And I'm Anya Packer, a former pro hockey player and now a full Madison Packer stan. Anya and I met through hockey and now we're married and moms to two awesome toddlers, ages two and four. And we're excited about our new podcast, Moms Who Puck, which talks about everything from

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