Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Bryce Young benched, Unc rips Kyler Murray, Tyreek Hill detained

Episode Date: February 2, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from the NFL season including, Carolina Panthers QB Bryce Young gets benched, Unc and Ocho rip Kyler Murray for saying it&...rsquo;s not his responsibility to get rookies the ball, Miami Dolphins WR Tyreek Hill gets detained and much more!03:50 - Bryce Young gets benched17:43 - Caleb Williams struggles utilizing college football strategy20:30 - Shannon goes off on Kyler Murray28:28 - Tua suffers from a concussion33:00 - Tyreek Hill gets detained48:10 - Anthony Richardson says college football was harder than the NFL(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:41 Chua suffering another concussion. Heading into week eight, Derrick Henry's on pace to break the record. Is it Mike McCarthy? Decided to bench Bryce Young less than 24 hours. He didn't concern himself about culture. They punished George Pickens tonight. Bryce Young era, temporarily, has been halted.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Dave Canales decided to bench Bryce Young less than 24 hours after telling everyone he start the red rifle. Andy Dalton is being named a team starter quarterback moving forward this season. Young was reportedly shocked by the bench and told and sources told Jordan Schultz. It came out of nowhere. Now, actually didn't. If you go back and look at your plate, look at the it ain't come out of nowhere. No one anticipated the plug. Oh, no one anticipated the plug being pulled after just two games
Starting point is 00:05:37 with a new coaching staff. But a reminder that the Patriots, Panther, excuse me, traded so much to get him. They traded D.J. Moore, Moore, the 2023 first round pick, which was Darnale Wright, a 2023 second round pick was with Tyreek Stevens. I think he's a starter. 2024 first round pick, overall pick, Caleb Williams, and a 2025 second round pick.
Starting point is 00:06:01 You don't do that. You don't do that. You don't do nobody like that. For one, I'm gonna start with David Tepper Because what David Tepper is doing Is insubordination. I don't even know what that sh** mean, but it sounds like it fits for this goddamn scenario Well, he can't insubordinate because he needs to hire up Yeah, okay, he needs to hire up and that's the problem Because now you pointing the fingers at Bryce Young,
Starting point is 00:06:26 like Bryce Young is the issue. That's not the issue. Yeah. That's not the issue. Look at the quarterbacks before Bryce Young got there. I thought that was the problem. Who was the quarterback before Bryce Young? Ah man, they had Sam Darn Donald, they had Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Sam Donald, Baker Mayfield, keep going. I don't really know who came directly after Cam. That's what I'm trying to say. It's been a revolving door of quarterbacks not having success because they don't have what they need around them to be successful. There was a reason you was able to get Bryce Young because he was the number one pick for a reason. You were able to have the number one pick for a reason.
Starting point is 00:07:10 So now you expect Bryce Young to come in, had a different coaching staff last year. You hired Dave Canellis, right? You bring him in, you let him play two games. He has nothing surrounding him to help him, but now you're gonna bench him and you're gonna start Andy Dalton. Like that's going to answer the problem.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Like Andy Dalton going to take you somewhere. Like that's going to answer the problem. No fix the **** around him and then you put him in an environment and I guarantee you, you'll find success. Oh, Bryce Young is an issue. Then people talk about, oh, he too short. Oh, he can't see. Hello, how tall is Kyle Murray?
Starting point is 00:07:50 How tall is Baker Mayfield? I have it. We know he taller than Kyle Murray. He absolutely is. It's not Bryce Young. Now, what I will say, if you turn the tape on, there will be some discrepancies in his play.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Oh, his confidence is shot, man. Yeah. Yeah. And this is no disrespect to any of the receivers that are on the Panthers. No, listen, no disrespect. You know, I love you know how I feel about you, even if I don't know you personally. But he has. You know what? I don't say that because I want to be disrespectful. I think the thing is, the question is, if Andy Dalton is the, is the answer,
Starting point is 00:08:34 I need to know the question. Hold on the red light faded. I'm just gonna keep it. Hey, y'all know what we do. We, I keep, I keep it one spot. So if he the answer, what's the question? I think having a veteran presence, I'm not sure what the Panthers are going to do going forward. Maybe allowing Bryce Young to sit for a year, watching the media outlets and some of the pundits,
Starting point is 00:08:54 some of the analysts are saying, Bryce Young time in Carolina as well. But they want everybody to play, because everybody think they're going to get CJ Stroud. The problem is, Ocho, is that people forget. Do you realize Patrick Mahomes sat his entire rookie year except one game? But that's not what they do with rookies now. They don't even give the rookies time to develop and learn from the sideline.
Starting point is 00:09:17 If you get drafted, number one, they throw you to the wolves. They throw you to the fire. Yeah. You got to get out there. Carson didn't start. Carson didn't start the whole year. Yeah. So times have changed now. For one, the money that's being invested in these players, you know, we paying you so much. We need you to go out there right now and earn that paycheck. You need to earn what you make it. Now it's okay. If you go to a team that is competent with weapons around you that you can use at your disposal that makes your job easier. What Bryce Young has to do is he has to put on his fucking cape and be Superman which he cannot do because it has nothing to use
Starting point is 00:09:54 around him and I mean that as respectful as possible. You traded DJ Moore somebody that could have gave him a quality receiver. You traded him. And I like Adam Phelan, but Adam Phelan, I mean, he's not what he wants. He's not that poor bowl receiver anymore. He's a decent number two. Look at the receiver in general. And I mean this in no, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. You know, we talk about number two,
Starting point is 00:10:21 we talk about twos and threes. Like who can Bryce Young, stay with me now, who can Bryce Young, right? In the time of need, life of their situation, he can come to the ball, get up on the center and look at a receiver and say, you know what? Right now on this plate, I need you. I need you to win for me. Yellow-high water, I know you got me no matter what. Who can he do that to? Who can he do that with?
Starting point is 00:10:51 T.J. Shroud got somebody to do it with. Patrick Mahone got somebody to do it with. Joe Burrow got somebody to do it with. Like you can go down a list of teams that always have one dog. You just mentioned. You got to have one dog. And the more you have the better you are count on no matter what he got me it's nothing and then you get he yeah you got he's having a string of bad plays back to back and all that does to a player's confidence you already know what it
Starting point is 00:11:20 does he in the press conference uh sund, they asked him, have you lost your confidence? He said, my confidence is in the Lord. And when he said that, it's, oh yeah, he says something like that. It's shot on. It's shot. I'm Christian. I believe, I believe in the man upstairs too. In that environment, that killer mindset. The Carolina Panthers fans, they try to hear that. Listen, the killer mindset you have to have at the quarterback position, your confidence is number one. Hell nah, you can't shake my confidence.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Your confidence is number one. That's number one. Once that's gone, you just a shell yourself out there. You a shell yourself. I wish more more guys realized Ocho for me. How you gonna break my confidence coming from where I came from? Do you know what it took just for me to get here? Now that I'm here, you'll think, Oh, you think, okay, I drop a couple of passes. Y'all boo. Y'all think that's gonna break me. I should have been broke a long time ago because there, along the way, I'm sure it's been 75,000 people that doubted me
Starting point is 00:12:30 at some point in time. And I might not know them, just like you don't know half them, 75,000 or the 76,000, 77,000, how many people that come to Carolina game, you don't know them. You can't break my confidence. You can't shake, you can't break my confidence because I know, first of all, you drafted
Starting point is 00:12:47 me because clearly you like what you saw on tape. I played on a big time program. I won big time games, I get big time competitions, but don't let a couple of bad plays. Don't let somebody pull it. Now, look, it's easy for me to say because I've never been benched, Ocho. So that's a lot easier for me to say. I try to do, make sure I do everything I possibly could. You know, it's different for a tight end receiver
Starting point is 00:13:11 than it is a quarterback. They have a lot more on their plate than what we have on our plate. But now you're not fit to break my confidence. You're not fit to shake me just cause I have a couple of bad games. Hey, I'm gonna do me. I'm gonna go out there and do me. And it's a lot. Like I said, Ocho, I'm responsible for my play. He's responsible for every, when things go good, he's going to get the credit. When they go
Starting point is 00:13:34 bad, he's going to get all the blame. You got to think about it, huh? As a rookie, look at the circumstances he's coming in. He's coming into as a rookie last year. There's a reason he was the number one pick because the damn short Alabama. It damn short in Alabama, because when you follow Tua, you follow Mac Jones and you got those receivers that you got, you got Jameson Williams and you got Metchi and you got those tiny, you got those running back, you got Jameer Gill. You come up, you come up from a winning
Starting point is 00:14:03 environment surrounded by adequate weapons that makes your job easy. I'm not saying the court is easy, but when you have certain players around you and you have certain weapons at your disposal, you're able to facilitate the ball an efficient way. And that's something that he can do. He has to put on the cape and be something that he's not. He can't be Superman.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Name one quarterback right now. Chat, chat, listen to me. Name one quarterback right now that you can put on the Panthers and it would turn the whole franchise around. Who? Who? You ain't got but, look, first of all, you ain't got but a handful of guys You probably got like three or four guys. Oh Joe that could go there and
Starting point is 00:14:51 Ella it raises the level of play that's hard for a rookie Because you got to look at when Peyton Manny got the end of you don't pay many had yeah, oh Joe He had Marvin Harrison. Yeah, it had a Marshall ball to God He had Marvin Harrison. He had written it had a Marshall ball to guy First battle hall Marshall Hall's fault was an it's an envy was an MVP and a two-time offensive player of the year And we know what Marvin Harrison is That's what he have and they say, you know what we're gonna do. They ain't enough. We're gonna go get you Reggie Wayne You know what? They ain't enough. We're gonna go get
Starting point is 00:15:21 Andrew James Oh, they're gonna get you Anthony't enough we're gonna get your anthony gontellis. We're gonna get your joe Dallas clark brandon stokely man. Don't man. Don't don't get me started If you look at what patrick mahomes inherited He had like what he got. Yeah, tyreek And he had kelsey and they went out and they went out and got sammy wakens The unfortunate listen You know you, think about everything you just said, drafting the right way, putting pieces around the quarterbacks so they can have
Starting point is 00:15:55 instant success. What is brother temper doing over there? And they want to blame it on the quarterback. If you know, they want to blame Brady was the only one, uh, coach Tom product said, coach Belichick, don't you draft anybody else? Cause you a draftable one player that's been some good. And that's wrong. Everybody else. We got free agency.
Starting point is 00:16:14 We got, I mean, uh, what was, uh, uh, uh, Amandola. We, uh, you got here in free agency. Uh, I think, uh, Edelman was a, was a draft of fridges or low round draft pick, you know, Welker, you, youelman was a, was an undrafted fridges or low round draft pick. You know, Welker, you, you, you signed him, but he was undrafted. You look at the guy that he signed, boy, they were being good in terrible. You remember he got twice Tyquan Thornton, the guy from Baylor. They ran like four to six or two. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:21:04 You run or you're running back. They go play wood on you. Oh, Joe, what because you don't have the protection of the pocket. You're a runner. You're running back. They're going to lay wood on you. Ocho, what did you take from this ball game? Listen, I enjoyed the ball game. Listen, Caleb Williams, what he has to do, he has to learn and protect the ball, learn and protect the ball, learn to live to see another play. Some of those deep throws. Listen, I like what he's able to do as far as his escape ability.
Starting point is 00:21:21 You know, being able to extend plays, trying to make plays down the field to try to get his team into the game, but you can't do it. You can't do it. Obviously, like college, sometimes some of those receivers were wide open when you're able to dodge the D tackles
Starting point is 00:21:36 and the D tackles and the guards that might've gotten through. But you know, these players are covered. Sometimes you throw in a double coverage. Sometimes you throw him way, he had one throw, he threw way across his body from the right hash. Oh, way back across the field and got picked. Yep.
Starting point is 00:21:56 It's not gonna work. Sometimes, listen, just throw the ball away and live to see another down. You have to. Listen, they pressured him. They pressured him a lot, you know? They fooled him with some of the coverages. And other than that, I mean, it was a good game. It was good.
Starting point is 00:22:14 I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end, the Bears actually had a chance to come back and win. It got real interesting. Yeah, it got very interesting. It's funny how that always works. You know that? You you ever noticed that I do Because the thing is it seemed like they were the Texas was going in to put the game away Can't make a bomb of the ball. If somebody's going to go and touchdown or children about to go up to scores
Starting point is 00:22:35 They're about to get Game away and that's what you have to guard against because if you think about Ocho, more teams lose games than teams win games. Yes, sir. There's more a lot more losing than winning that we know at the end of the day, they're going to have to have somebody's going to have to win unless the game ends of the time. But you go back and look, you look at it like, OK, this was a direct correlation to why we lost the game.
Starting point is 00:23:01 And you know, like you said, Caleb Wave, I think he has a great, his escape ability is unbelievable. He can make every throw. He just has to understand this isn't college. Everybody at this level is elite. Even if there's tears to it, but you're talking about the best of the best. You only got 1600 men in the world of 8 billion people that do what you do. Yeah. 1600 of eight billion. That's a very, very minute percent of men
Starting point is 00:23:34 that can play this game at the highest level. Kyle Emery says it's not his job to feed targets to the rookie wide receiver, Marvin Narrazin. Who? It's me. Who, who, who, who, me? Did he really say that? Maybe, maybe, do you think they misquoted him?
Starting point is 00:23:49 As a quarterback, obviously, you're going through your reads. Sometimes the ball goes to him. And fuck them reads. But that's not my job. I have a, I have a sense and a feel for guys when they don't get the ball and when they're getting the ball.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Hey, man, hold on there. This, if I'm Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray, Kyler, I know you're gonna see this. When you come out the huddle, what number Marvin Harrison, I mean Marvin Harrison Jr. 18, isn't it? Kyler Murray, when you come out the huddle you and you're making your points with the line point out the mic check the courage whatever side 18 go to
Starting point is 00:24:33 look at the DB if it's one-on-one throw it to him don't worry about no read he is the read he He's the read. What you talk about it stuff like this that makes you annoying. Not my job. That is your job. He why you think that you're going to be fourth overall Kyler. I'll give you what you don't have to rip. You know what it is. That's over fucking coaching. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:25:00 That's over coaching. That's why that's why you said that answer. That they're over coaching him, forcing him to go through his reads when, hello, you got a special individual, that was the fourth pick for a goddamn reason. You do that to a rookie. Oh Joe, ain't nobody over coaching Kyler.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Kyler on some bull jobs. Kyler been on some bull jobs. But I ain't finna go there. This is not the time. This is about him not. A rookie quarterback. Trying to win games. going to go there. This is not the time. This is about him Not a really you try to win game rookie quarterback coach him This man has been to the Pro Bowl and you meet this man was what he rookie of the year What he rookie of the year? And then you go talk and you won't talk about that's not your job. So tell me what your job is. I
Starting point is 00:25:40 like to know So you mean to tell me the guy's rookie of the year, the guy's a Pro Bowl, he's been to the Pro Bowl, he's taken a team to the playoffs, but that's not his job. That explains, that explains. Now you see why. Now you see why. All I'm gonna say is now you see why. You know what?
Starting point is 00:26:03 You know what's gonna happen though? Who the who the cardinals Who the cardinals? Who the cardinals play tomorrow? Who the cards play, Ash? I guarantee they feed in tomorrow. I guarantee they feature in tomorrow. They play the Rams. I bet that. Oh shit. Damn. Hey, but even though still, even with them playing the Rams, I guarantee you they feature Marvin Harrison and he has a welcome to the NFL day. I guarantee you, it's just the way it works. It's just the way I'm not saying I know the script, but after a day like that, which to me is an embarrassment, especially with the quote coming behind you, you're starting to quote back saying something like,
Starting point is 00:26:47 you can't just quote back, that's an embarrassment. They're going to feature Marvin Harrison Jr. tomorrow. I guarantee you. The wise thing was to say, look, I got to understand that my playmakers and I got to do everything in my power to make sure I get them involved early and often. Yeah. What did Tom Brady say? Tom Brady says, Tom Brady said it's my job to get my playmakers to ball early. Who wants to go to the second quarter, the third quarter before they get a target? That's what Tom said. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Kyle O'Byrne said that's not his job. Now, Chad, you see what I'm talking about? You see the difference between mentality? You see how the great players think? And the other players look in the place to blame on somebody else. So in other words, what he's trying to do, Ocho, is up any blame that you might've placed on me,
Starting point is 00:27:36 that's the coach's job. Now, listen at the other great quarterbacks. And when they talk, Peyton Manning, the Tom Brady's, the Mahomes, all those great quarterbacks and when they talk Peyton Manning, the Tom Brady's, the Mahomes, all those great quarterbacks, they go out of their way early to make sure their playmakers get involved early. Kyle Murray said that's not his job. I mean, listen, I'm not. Kyle Murray is is media savvy.
Starting point is 00:28:02 He's he's savvy enough to be able to answer that in a different way. And I just, it was upsetting for me because on Marvin Harrison, Jr. debut as NFL player, it shouldn't look like, it should have looked nothing like that. Nothing like that. But I know one thing tomorrow is going to be, I guarantee you, and I bet anybody in the chat, I bet you a dollar, tomorrow he gonna have a day. Oh Joe, now you see where I was born when I was born? Now you see, oh Joe, it would-
Starting point is 00:28:35 The mentality is different, the mentality is different. Man, look here. Guys, I know y'all think, I think, you know, look. Oh shit. Whatever. None, go ahead, go ahead. I'm good. I took a nap. Man, I just, it would bother me.
Starting point is 00:29:01 It bothers me some of these guys mentality. It bothers me that winning is not of the utmost. Why the F am I here? Why am I putting my body through this? Why am I denying myself when I train? I question myself every day I went to train. I asked myself a couple of questions. Why am I doing this? When is
Starting point is 00:29:25 this over? What am I doing it for? How long is it going to last? And then I got to come and hear somebody talk about it's not his job. Guess what? Lord have mercy. It bothers me man. It really does Because all I want to all I care about is winning how do we get better? You don't get better With players like Kyla Murray his mentality is not what it needs to be Go listen to all the other great players look at and listen to Elway, look, listen to Marino, listen to Aikman, listen to any great and they'll tell you, I gotta get my playmaker involved early.
Starting point is 00:30:09 They not saying it's not my job. You got the damn ball, it is your job. Touch it the most, you touch it the most. But that's why I say over coaching. Cause when someone a quarterback throws out, I have to go through my reads That's coaching that's them being in his ear a little bit too much guess what if I'm a quarterback damn it all of a sudden I can't read why 18 there. I Don't even know the rest of the damn place 18 get open
Starting point is 00:30:39 That's a better move man. That's something me and Carson was doing a year five and six and seven and eight That's a bit. That's a veteran move, man. That's something me and Carson was doing in year five and six and seven and eight. That's a veteran move. I'm not sure if he has the leeway to be able to go off like that. Hell, he done got one coach fire. He can get another one fire. It's easy to fire a coach than it is a quarterback.
Starting point is 00:30:57 It's just, man, it's just the mindset of some of these guys. That's what it means, Ocho. That's all I'm saying. Right, right. Yeah, I bet I bet asking what his job is on card. I bet he know that. I bet he know that. I bet he know what his job is on that. I get best when he playing partners. Ain't nobody gonna say, man, it ain't your job to protect the blind spot. It ain't your job to go in there do that I bet don't know how to tell him that. He'll be fine he just got it you got it you got to choose his
Starting point is 00:31:32 words a little a little better that's all. To a suffering another concussion Ocho knowing his history I don't know why he had already had the first down why didn't he go down and slide? That's my thing. You know, you probably play with a bum shoulder or a bum something. The last thing you want to do is get hit on it. So you're going to, you're going to, Hey, you ain't here on that shoulder. I will turn the other shoulder. Let you hit me on the shoulder. That's good. But I'm not going to let you know if I know, Ohcho, I've had head trauma,
Starting point is 00:32:05 like three or four of those, I'm not taking it. I'm gonna just slide. That's what the protection is in for the quarterback. Tell me what you thought. What I did see is him trying to run for the first down, understanding he got the first down, I'm not sure if he was aware of already having the first down, but you already know
Starting point is 00:32:18 how you're supposed to slide. You never slide head first. As a quarterback, that's one of the first things you learn when you're scrambling, you come out the pocket is how to slide correctly. Tua you already know you already know you've had three or four concussions you missed not last season but the previous season due to concussions so you should always be aware not only of surroundings but when I'm talking about when enemies not enemies but when you in danger and when it when you got to know when to go down
Starting point is 00:32:44 you have to know when to go down. So I think he didn't realize he was well past the first down and didn't think Damar Hamlin was gonna close in, was gonna close in that goddamn fast. And it was too late, it was too late. If anything, if anything, slide early, slide early and you always go feet first. That's even more of a problem if he didn't
Starting point is 00:33:06 know he had the first down considering you're supposed to know. You can see that. I mean, most guys know that you can see that out of your peripheral because you look at left to right to make sure there's no oncoming trade. Nobody's been a side swipe you. Okay. I don't know. I got this first. You know, you know, you know how we didn't know he had the first because he was diving head first. But if you know where they got the first. You know, you know, you know how I know he didn't know he had the first because he was diving head first. But if you know where they got the first, there's no need to be going forward at all. Just give yourself up. No, he was trying to set the tone trying to fire the crowd up.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Remember you like guys to fire. You like guys that was different. That was Lamar going out of bounds and seeing the safety coming on and just, you know, just give him a little show to let him know it's gonna be a long night. Duh, I have to give you no shoulder, not my throwing shoulder anyway. I give you the other shoulder, not the one I use to throw the football with. Elcho, and I don't take this lightly,
Starting point is 00:33:56 and I really hate saying this, but two of them probably need to seriously consider sitting it down. If you notice, the concussions are starting to look worse and worse. If you notice, every time he has a head trauma, he get what they call rigor mortis. It's a, hold on, a doctor,
Starting point is 00:34:11 this is what a doctor sent me when it happened. It's called decerebrate posturing, a rare abnormal body position that indicates severe brain damage or disruption of brain function. It's decerebrate rigidity, indicate severe brain damage or disruption of brain function. As deceit, this December, decerat, decerebrate rigidity or extensive reposturing. Arms held straight out, rotated towards the center of the body,
Starting point is 00:34:35 held parallel to the side. Leg, these are some of the symptoms. Legs extended and rigid. Toes pointed downward, turned slightly inward. Hands flexed. back arched or stiff wrist flexed away from the body fingers curled how many times have you seen him get that ocho i mean what three and it's starting and every time he gets it ocho it's not you know some people get it and they look like okay look he got his bed wrong but och, he going stiff with it, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:35:05 He's getting stiff. Yeah, I mean, listen, at this point, I heard what you just said about him probably sitting it down or shutting it down. You know, you gotta understand, we just, I'm talking about we. They just paid to him. They just paid to him a lot of money
Starting point is 00:35:21 because he is the future of the franchise and the quarterback. In order for them to contend, he has to be at the helm to do that. Now in order to do that he also has to be healthy and he has to protect himself. So at this point going forth he was able to play all last season without this type of injury, without any mistakes. You know when he does come back and I'm sure he's going to come back I'm not sure how long he's going to have to be in the concussion protocol, but he has to take better care of his body, his head, and just make smarter decisions when he does scramble. Because you've got to think, Tua is not known as a dual threat quarterback.
Starting point is 00:35:55 It's not that many times he's going to be out there running around and taking off with the ball, as opposed to a Josh Allen or a Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. So when he does scramble, he has to make the right decisions and protect himself and learn how to slide. Oh Joe, the dolphins beat the Jags, but the big news actually happened before the game and this is what happened. Tyreek Hill was detained by police Sunday, a block away from hard rock stadium or driving violation.
Starting point is 00:36:21 He was reportedly stopped for speeding and then got into a verbal altercation with the police and was subsequently placed in handcuffs. Dolphin teammate Kaleus Campbell, John New Smith, stopped to offer support for Hill, leading Campbell detainment for disobeying a direct order. Miami-Dade Police Department released a statement requesting an immediate review of the incident. One of the officers involved in the Hill detainment was placed on administrative duties during the investigation. No, not administratively administrative duty, which means he's going to be at the desk. He's not going to be in the field.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Oh, Joe, what was what we're going to we're going to discuss the game. So but, oh, Joe, this situation, you have driven the home games. I did it for 14 years. You did it for 11, 12 years. So you notice like, yeah, lay out, give, give the fans an idea. You go into the stadium. You got to be at a stadium. I mean, normally they ask you to be at the stadium two hours before the game. So, okay. Now, oh, Joe, you leave the hotel night before the game. I don't know if you stayed there the full time or you go back home and change, but you're on your way to the stadium.
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Starting point is 00:41:48 You know, cause you can see the stadium, you know, in the background. So obviously, obviously he was right there. I'm not sure what actually happened. I'm not sure what time it was. I'm not sure if it was running late. So obviously if you're stopping for a driving violation, the only type of driving violation you could have
Starting point is 00:42:03 two hours before a game would have to be speeding of some sort. Maybe not using your signal. Um, I'm assuming something minor. Well, speeding is not minor, obviously. So I'm, I'm assuming he was pulled over because all, all, all I have to go off of is based on what we all saw. I mean, that, that's it. Um, I think, I think it's unfortunate.
Starting point is 00:42:24 I think it's an easy fix. I think it was a very easy fix to where it even had even have to get to this point to where it got to today. Uh, I'm not, I'm not sure if cooler heads had prevailed in that, in that time or in that manner or, uh, him being detained wouldn't have happened in that, in that situation. I think you and I have talked about it before. When you're stopped by the police and doing all you can
Starting point is 00:42:49 to be able to resolve the issue without it going any further. I'm not sure if Tyree said anything. Maybe the officer was having a bad day. Was having a bad day, but there has to be some level of respect on both ends where this doesn't happen. The fact that I don't have the evidence on what really happened and what transpired for it to get to that
Starting point is 00:43:12 point, it's hard for me to dig deeper and say some of the things I want to say outside of the fact it shouldn't get to that point though. There should be a level of respect on both ends, obviously, especially Miami Police Department. If you work in a game, if you work in a game, you're on detail at the game and you know it's a player, obviously maybe extending him a little grace. If he is running late, letting him know a week, if anything, just slow down a little bit, baby, because you got people, you got foot traffic.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Obviously there's a game going on. People trying to get to the game. Slow down a little bit. If you're going to be late, if anything, just take the fine or whatnot, whatever it might have been. I don't know what it was, but again, I mean, as officers, knowing that there's a game getting ready to be played and knowing that it's a player, not saying he should be getting grace,
Starting point is 00:43:58 obviously there are rules and laws that you have to abide by, but it just, there's a certain level of respect that the officers normally have for a player or in a situation and understanding what's going on. But in this case, ladies and gentlemen, like we would go to the game. Um, we were, we had to be, we were required to be to the game at least two
Starting point is 00:44:17 hours before the game. So our game will start at two o'clock because we're in mountain time. So we start had to be there at least by 12. I normally got to the, I normally got to the state of about four and a half hours before the game. So I normally got to the game, uh, the stadium about four and a half hours before the game. So the traffic wasn't as heavy, but a lot of times they block it off because they don't want traffic.
Starting point is 00:44:39 They want to be able to control the traffic coming in one way. They don't want the normal flow of traffic being able to come in all directions. So they, a lot of times they'll have it blocked off. I was always conscious of that. And so, you know, anytime I pulled up to an area and I saw police office, I would all, I would like roll my window down to let them know this is Shannon. Cause my, when I always had, you know, I always had to, but I wanted them to know that, Hey, I'm Shannon, you know, Hey, I'm going to the stadium and a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:45:04 Most of them recognize who I was. Hey, hey, Mr. Sharp, how you doing? Have a great game. So forth and so on. Now, obviously, the later the later you get to that, that cutoff time that teams have established, the more foot traffic is going to be coming. And so obviously, they don't want you reading through their 50, you know, not even 35 miles an hour. They probably want you around five to 10 miles an hour because there's some
Starting point is 00:45:29 traffic. Like I said, I haven't been to. And Miami state of Ocho in since 98. So I couldn't know. Actually we played them in the division around. Yeah. But that's been so long. That's been so long ago. So that's been over 22 decades. So I really couldn't tell you. And you know, normally when we come in on the bus, we got police escort. So it's a lot different when you got police escort as opposed to being, you know, you driving yourself.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And so you're absolutely right. I think the thing is for that minor of a traffic, okay, he's speeding and you got to lay him face down. Yeah, hold on, hold on. Write him a ticket, Right in my ticket. Right in my ticket. There's no reason to detain him. There's no reason for him to be faced down.
Starting point is 00:46:10 But what you do have to think of, if it's sort of that, if they've resulted to the point of having to have him face down like that, I think there might have been some exchange back and forth. There might have been some exchange back and forth. That's the only time it gets to that point when an individual is being somewhat volatile towards the law. Then they take things in their own hands because as you get a little loud, what's the first thing they do? Well, and in that situation,
Starting point is 00:46:36 they try to entertain you. They try to escalate the situation. He got all the power. He got a gun. He got a taser. He got a baton. He got a bulletproof vest on. In that situation, he's gone. My thing is anytime the police officer comes to my car, I get pulled over. My job is to get him to the car. Back to his car.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Me on my way. He on his way. With as little conversation as possible. Okay, you pulled me over, Mr. Sharp. You know how fast you were going. I really don't. I welcome you telling me. When you was traveling such and such in this much money, I say, I'm sorry officer, I didn't know I was traveling that fast, but I'm going to take your word for it. Because I'm trying to get him, Ocho, I'm trying to get him to my car, back to his car as quick as possible. The longer he stays at my car,
Starting point is 00:47:25 the greater the chance that there's something that we can escalate. Now, a lot of times they're supposed to be in a situation where they de-escalate the situation. But that's not always how... And plus, oh, you think because you did that, you driving this car. Oh, you think you can... No, I don't think that. So that was that's my whole thought process. How, you think you can. No, I don't think that. So that was,
Starting point is 00:47:45 that's my whole thought process. How soon can I get him to my car back to his car or on his motorcycle and get him on his way in a situation like that? Oh Joe for the, for the outreach to be laid down. And it looked like I saw a video. It looked like the guy to need him in his back. I thought that was, yeah, yeah, yeah. He, he blacked him, but I thought he knew, I thought he knew I could be wrong. And maybe the video, maybe somebody, the video that I saw, maybe that wasn't how it happened, but it looked apparently to me that the guy did mean a little excessive. And I'm not saying that he dropped the, uh, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:21 the Ric Flair L D on him or something like that, you know, in WWE, but, um, but it looked like it was unnecessary. It seemed to me that it was unnecessary that you lay a man down in the street for a traffic violation. I can see it. The guy was, he was traffic violation and he was wanted for some heinous crime. But I don't think that was the case. Um, but I think what's going to happen because this was so public and it is the Miami Dolphins and Steven Ross and NFL. Now everybody's getting involved.
Starting point is 00:48:50 Oh, you're going to come to a quick resolution here. And I can assure you that will probably won't happen again. I'm not going to say for categorical for certain, but there is a great chance that this won't happen again. That guy might've been a little overzealous. I'm not saying that Tyreek wasn't speeding, but I'm just saying, I don't know if speeding warrants that laying a man down face down in the pavement, you put your knee in his back, your handcuffing.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I mean, if you're going to do, if you're going to, if you're going to do all that, you might want to take it down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Most definitely. I mean, you might want to take it down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. I mean, that would make it even worse. That would make it even worse. And obviously I wish the situation could have been rectified right away. There's a certain level of respect.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Obviously me being from Miami that I, yeah, not even close, not even close, not two hours before a game when the office is understand that. OK, whatever the driving violation may have been. Listen, quick little talk. Listen, you got to slow down. But you know what? OK, if you are speedy, Rick, listen, I know you got a game, baby. You can't be you can't be driving that fast through here.
Starting point is 00:49:59 I got to get a ticket. I got to get a ticket, man. I got I got to do right by the law. But I'm going to let you go. Let you go about your way. That's it. Simple. It's over. Driver's license registration.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I got to write this ticket. Just slow down for me next time. We got seven more home games here. Next time you come through here. Hopefully we got more than that. Just be driving the right way. Hopefully we got more home. Huh?
Starting point is 00:50:21 Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely. But listen, I think it's sustained though. Yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. Most definitely. But I think it's the stain though. It's the stain on the Miami on, on, on the Miami. It is.
Starting point is 00:50:30 My good look. It's definitely not good. Look, well, it's over abusing your power. Just a little bit, just a little bit. Yeah. Understanding the situation, understanding the circumstances, you know, that Tyree is no threat in this situation. He's not gonna do you any bodily harm. I mean, you know that. So I think obviously it was very excessive and unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Yeah, but like, you know, I think the thing is, I mean, like Tyree said, what if he wasn't who he was? And the thing is now I think, you know, the cameras and a lot of times and people like, well, body cameras on, you know, he had he were there wearing body cams and people like, well, Shannon, you talk about you don't get on the elevator with women. Do you understand it was cameras? Do you know how many times we've seen stuff on cameras and mofos walk up out the courtroom, start ass free and you want me to take that just my luck. Guess what? The camera ain't working that day. How many times there was a situation, Oh, the office forgot to turn his body cam on. Oh Joe,
Starting point is 00:51:32 I assume nothing thinking they slick. You pull somebody out. You're supposed to be up, but that's not the here North bear. Yeah. Tyreex okay. Probably a little, a lot embarrassed. Not a little, a lot embarrassed because this played out in front of national in front of, you know, you play in front of millions, but I don't expect to be handcuffed face down with a knee in my back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:59 Oh, not in my own city. Not in the city I play for. And then Tyree, he did what Tyree Hill does. He catches an 80 yarder, takes it to the house. He ends the day seven catches, seven catches for a buck, 31 touchdowns, 80 yarder. And then he did, hey, by 10 a.m. they had his hand behind his back,
Starting point is 00:52:21 and then at 3 a.m. he had a celebration going with his hand behind his back. Hill 3 a.m. He had a celebration going with his hand behind his back Yeah, here. Lynn. Jaylen wattle counter for 211 of the Miami Dolphins 400 total yards and offense To or through for 338 one touchdowns Jacksville was the ninth best defense against the run last season and they showed it Miami only had 25 carries for 81 yards showed it. Um, Miami only had 25 carriers for 81 yards. Uh, but a chain has 75 Russian waddle had five for one oh nine. Tyreke had seven for a buck 30. Um, but this game seemed to be, Oh Joe, this game was about to be put away.
Starting point is 00:52:57 You Jag eight, 18, the Jags and do come peanut punches. They get the ball and two plays later. So what was about to be a 24 seven ball game. Oh Joe, now all of a sudden you get the ball in the 20 and two plays later. Tyreeks in the end zone. Right. And so now what was supposed to be 24 24 7 is 17 14. Now, now you get not a crowd back in the game.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Now the defense starting to feel good about themselves. We got a ball game. But give Miami credit. Jacksonville had an opportunity to really put some put some distance between them. They were unable to do it. And it just go. Yeah. And the blink of an eye, the momentum flip just like that. Oh, Joe. a 14 point swing.
Starting point is 00:53:45 Coast D shine as they beat the Bears. The defense held Chicago to 63 yards rushing for sacks, three turnovers. The Coast gave up nearly 500 rushing yards to the first two opponents. Yet the Bears attempted 52 passes on the wife. Chicago had 247 yards in the first half and was shut out in the second and shut out at the half after four straight runs and shotgun in the four yard line and didn't yield a touchdown. This game featured two of the youngest quarterbacks in NFL, uh, Richardson and Williams. Kayla
Starting point is 00:54:14 Williams responded late touchdown throw to Roma, Dunezay and Cole Comet, his first two NFL passing touchdowns. Well, they got a lot to learn. Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't miss it. So this is the only game I couldn't see. Oh Joe, they got a lot. Yeah. They still, it's hard. Oh, they Richardson is still try. Both of them are still trying to make throws that they made in college.
Starting point is 00:54:40 And I keep telling them they got the arm. They got the arm. You can't make them pros. Oh, Joe, you're not going to roll one way and throw back across the field. I don't know what the Hissburg Richardson first interception in the end zone, even if the ball wasn't tipped, it was going to get picked. He got three right around the guy. And then he rolls and throw, tries to throw back across the field.
Starting point is 00:55:06 The same thing with Caleb Williams. Bro, you not getting away with those throws in this league. The guys are too good. This is not, you're not playing Louisiana Monroe. You're not playing, you're not playing the FCF team. These guys are the best of the best. They make you pay for mistakes. So stop putting your team in harm's way. I think Anthony Richardson would be good, but he's got to stop making these
Starting point is 00:55:32 mistakes and he got to learn some touch. But I mean, sometimes he's throwing the ball to the guy from me to this wall and he's throwing it like he's throwing it in the hurricane. Bro, some time now. Yeah. And Caleb, what you 52 times? Come hurricane, bro, sometimes. 100 miles an hour? Yeah. And Caleb, what, you 52 times? Come on, bro. Come on, y'all doing? I wish, I wish I was playing in the offense when they throw the ball 52 times. I wish, because that's a receiver's dream.
Starting point is 00:55:59 You know how many, listen, some teams only ran 65 plays. Sometimes you only run 65 plays and 52 of those are in the air. But that means you will probably lose. If you throw the ball that many times, you probably gonna lose. Ain't gonna be very many times now. It ain't gonna be very many times that you win a game
Starting point is 00:56:16 when you throw the ball that much. You behind, you're probably behind and you're probably gonna lose the game. Now, if you want some stats, those are great. But you're not gonna lose the game. Now, if you want some stats, those are great. But you're not winning, 52 times? What if you throw it 52 times and you win in the game? What if you throw it 52 times and you are fishing? What if you throw it 52 times
Starting point is 00:56:35 and the quarterback is 48 for 52? Yeah, but Ocho, what are the like, normally when you throw that many times, what are you? You're behind. And teams will let you, hey, do that so they don't give up anything cheaper. D. Right. Just keep them in front of us.
Starting point is 00:56:53 Yeah, I mean, I just I mean, if some of the guys and they just I will show you, I just want to know. Because I had to Richardson said that the college was harder than the NFL. I want to know if he still feels that way. But he said it last year before he got here this year. Oh, yeah. I don't, I don't really think he meant that though. I don't know if he made it.
Starting point is 00:57:18 He would just be, he would probably be a girl called you ugly. Oh, she ain't mean that day. What does she mean? She said it. Now, if a girl, I mean, not when you get, you got to listen, you know, a girl called you ugly, oh she ain't mean that. That ain't what she meant. She said it. Nah, if a girl, I mean, nah, but you gotta listen. You know, a girl called you ugly, sometimes she flirting, and she really don't mean that. But you know, sometimes she said to keep you ugly.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Don't keep me hungry. My grandma called me ugly all my life growing up. I'm gonna take your word for it, I'm done with you. Oh, ugly self, okay. I'm done with you. Oh, ugly self, okay. Hey, I ain't gonna try to convince nobody. Did you mean that? Because you remember the other day you said I was ugly.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Did you mean it? No, you said I'm good. I will keep it moving. You can't take it personally. I ain't taking it personally. I ain't fit to be, what I look like trying to, somebody go call me ugly and they think I'm to be what I look like trying to get somebody to go call me ugly.
Starting point is 00:58:05 And they think I'm going to be with them. I mean, come on. We're also we grow. You do that in the fourth grade when you were in elementary school, you got a crush on somebody, you hit them, but you're ugly. Say you make me sick. We're all now playing no type of game. I mean, she really like you.
Starting point is 00:58:28 She'll pay. I mean, she real call me ugly. Sometimes. Was she mad at you? Yeah, exactly. But when, when, when are women the most honest? When they what? When they're angry. When they what? Thank you angry. When they what?
Starting point is 00:58:45 Thank you. So probably, maybe I am, you know. Listen, I ain't the, I ain't, I'm not the, I ain't top 10 in the world. I'm not strong six and a half, especially with a haircut. If I get a haircut, oh, long as I'm above five, I'm straight. Now when I ain't got no haircut and you know I ain't been on the waist, I'm a strong, I'm straight. Now when I ain't got no haircut and you know, I ain't been on the waist.
Starting point is 00:59:06 I'm a pro, I'm a strong pro. I mean, look, yeah, I mean, I guess that's what you like. I'm looking for, like you said, I'm trying to be a strong six, seven. A seven? Yeah, I mean, you say if you wanted your girl, you wouldn't want your, you want you. So I mean, you say what, what would you say?
Starting point is 00:59:28 Rails or what? Nine, 10? A nine? Nah, real, real. She probably, I give, I give seven and a half. Shit. Hey, rail, you heard? Nah, she ain't there.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Nese ain't there. Hey, listen, my dog, my dog, she, she, man, she, she about it, she ain't there. Nisa ain't there. Hey, listen, my dog, she, man, she about to, she about to 10. I outkicked McCurvey though. You did. I outkicked McCurvey. Yeah. And I, only reason, only reason she probably, listen, the only reason she with me is I won because of my personality.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Okay, I can see that. That's it. That's it. I'm just being honest. Because you know what they say, if you can make a woman laugh, you can laugh, I ain't gon say it. You know what I'm trying to say. Yeah, you get up out of them. Yeah, I get what you're saying.
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