Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Caleb Williams Struggles, Chiefs beat Bengals, Cowboys get BLOWN OUT by Saints

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to a loaded week 2 of NFL action, Including the Houston Texans beating the Chicago Bears.  Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs outlasting Joe Burrow & the Cincinnati Bengals, the Dallas Cowboys being blown out at home by the New Orleans Saints & much more!03:17 - SHOW STARTS04:57 - Texans beat the Bears17:10 - Chiefs Beat Bengals42:30 - SAINTS BLOW OUT COWBOYS56:20 - Ravens lose to Raiders01:10:53 - Cardinals beat Rams(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And he's going to learn,cho. Some of the throws, a lot of the throws that he got away with in college, you can't get away with them in the NFL. They'll make you pay for them. And another thing, when you're heading to the sideline, you know how like college guys will pull up and let you run on out of bounds? Yeah. They're not going to do that in the NFL because they want an accumulation of licks. They want that to add up. So the first quarter you might pop right up like that and hurt your second quarter. Yeah, we feeling good. But they keep putting enough of them on you on the third and the fourth quarter.

And over the course of the season, they're going to add up. Caleb, you got to run like you make a detour like you going out of bounds. Oh, Joe, you got to get out of five and get on up out of bounds. You know, they're not playing. They go if they get that they get that close to you, Ocho, because you don't have the protection of the pocket. Yeah, you're a runner. You're running back. They're going to lay wood on you.

Oh, what did you take from this ball game? Listen, I enjoyed the ball game. Listen, Caleb Williams, what he has to do, he has to learn and protect the ball, learn and protect the ball, learn to live to see another play. Some of those deep throws. Listen, I like what he's able to do as far as his escape ability. Oh, you know, being able to extend plays, trying to make plays down the field to try to get his team into the game. But you can't, you can't, you can't do it. You can't do it. Obviously.

Like college, sometimes some of those receivers were wide open. We able to dodge the D tackles in the D tackles in the guards that might've, that might've gotten through. But you know, these players, these players are covered. Sometimes you throw it in a, in a, in a double coverage. Sometimes you, you throw them way. He had one, one throw up. He threw way across his body from the right hash all the way back. Cross feeling it got picked. It's not, it's not gonna work. Sometimes, listen, just throw the ball away. Cross feeling they got picked. Yeah, it's not. It's not going to work sometime.

This is just throw the ball away and live to see another down. I mean, other than that, listen, they pressured him. They pressured him a lot, you know, they fooled him with some of the coverages. And other than that, I mean, it was a good game. It was good. I actually enjoyed the game because towards the end, the Bears actually had a chance to come back and win. They got real interesting. They got very

interesting. It's funny how that always works. You know that? You ever noticed that? I do because the thing is it seemed like they were the Texans was going in to put the game away. Oh but the camp makers fumbled the ball. They fumbled the ball. They're about to go in and go and touch down Ocho. They're about to go up two scores. They're about to put together. Game away. Yeah, game away. And that's what you have to guard against. Because if you think about it, Ocho,

more teams lose games than teams win games. Yes, sir. There's more, a lot more losing than winning. Now we know at the end of the day, they're going to have to have, somebody's going to have to win and left the game end of the tie. Right. But you go back and look, you look at it like, okay, this was a direct

correlation to why we lost the game. And you know, like you said, Caleb Williams, I think he's, he has a great, he, his escape ability is unbelievable. He can make every throw. He just has to understand this isn't college. Everybody, everybody at this level is elite. Even if they're, you know, there's tears to it, but you're talking about the best of the best.

You only got 1600 men in the world of 8 billion people that do what you do. Yeah. 1600 of 8 billion. That's a very, very minute percent of men that can play this game at the highest level. And the things you got away with in college, more times than not, nine times out of 10, they'll make you pay for it.

And he's learning, you know, when you have success doing something, oh, Joe, what you want to do, you want to continue to do it that way. Man, I've always did. This is the way I've always done it. Okay. Now you're at an elite level and they make you pay for that. The Houston Texans, CJ Scry was 23 or 36, 261 touchdown. He didn't turn the ball over.

He had three sacks. They did a great job on him. I thought the thing, the biggest difference, what I saw from Houston, Texas, this week, Texas this week, as opposed to last week, Ojo is that their inability to run the football, I think Joe mixing going down with that. I didn't see, did they, did they call, did they throw a flag? Because that was definitely a hip drop tackle. I thought he broke his leg. Yeah. Oh, no, they didn't. I don't think they threw a flag on that one. His arms were around his waist. His arms weren't, weren't. No, no, no, no. That's what I'm calling. The hip drop is when you

drop your weight down. He dropped his weight down. That's why I thought he broke his leg. Cause I'm like, Oh my gosh. His right ankle got caught up. Yeah. But they didn't throw a flag. They didn't throw a flag. Yeah. And so I thought that was the, uh, their inability to consistently get a run game on Joe. I thought that really hurt them and put them in a situation and, uh, you know, give the Chicago, I think Chicago has a really good defense. I think they're good offensively. They're just young offensively.

But defensively, I thought they did a great job of getting after CJ. Nico Collins had an unbelievable ball game. Stephon was trying to find his rhythm. He really couldn't get into a rhythm. But you know, you want to find a way to win a ball game. You win. At the end of the day, yeah, we didn't play our best game,

but can you find a way to win where you don't have your best stuff? That's what they did. Clearly Yeah, we didn't play our best game, but can you find a way to win when you don't have your best stuff? That's what they did. Clearly tonight they didn't have their best stuff, Ojo, but they still find a way to win. What did you like about what you saw from the Texans? Listen, obviously I like what I saw from CJ Stroud. Man, his poise in the pocket,

his veteran, almost like a veteran presence, like a Tom Brady, like a, let me see, who else is in that pocket? Like they don't care what's around them. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And people flying by his head, flying at his ankles,

he just right there, just calm and relax, eyes down, feel, process, and whatever he needs to process in front of him. Sometimes he takes the sack, obviously when there's pressure, but the maturity that CJ Stroud has and some of the plays he's been able to make obviously not being really much of a dual threat quarterback but being able to escape the pocket when he'd be in extend plays was really good tonight.

Obviously he didn't have the passing day he would like. Nico Collins made some really good plays, some run after kick and run after him. And other than that, Tank Dale tried to get in the rhythm. He wasn't as effective tonight, the same with Stephon Diggs, but they don't have eight days. As Nico Collins continues to put up yards and have games like he did today, obviously come next week, okay, you know what we gonna do?

We gonna double. We gonna double. We gonna double. And gonna double. Yeah. And then here go Tank. And here go Stefan having a day. So teams are gonna have to pick their poison. But as long as CJ Stroud is playing like he's playing, not turning the ball over,

being able to facilitate and get the ball, get the ball to the players that are open instead of forcing the ball, like brother, make, get the ball to the players that are open instead of forcing, forcing the ball. Like brother Caleb, we was doing tonight. Yeah. They're going to be all right. And basically to me, see they shrouded basically just picking up where he left off last year.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, I think the thing is Ocho when he doesn't throw for 300 yards, like he did last year, every game, they're like, ah, man, he, he had a sophomore slump. No, I mean, teams are better prepared for him. He's doing a great job of not turning the ball over. You got to pick and choose your battles.

Okay. I'll take a sack here. I'll throw the ball away there. The one thing I can't do is put my teams in harm's way. As long as I don't put my team in harm's way, I'm going to make you beat me. That if you go back and look at the Patriots, what did the Patriots make you do? They made you beat them. Tom was not going to put the ball in harm's way.

They were not gonna have a whole lot of costly mistakes. Now, they have a bunch of penalties, Ocho. You know, penalties, they get you beat too now. I think they have 11 or 12 penalties. You gotta be careful of those. They start to add up. And so a lot of times they come at the most inopportune times.

We saw, we're gonna talk about your team today, that that one penalty, look at when it came. All penalties aren't creating equal. All turnovers aren't created equal. A turnover in the first quarter is a lot different than a turnover in the fourth quarter. So with that being said, I like what I'm saying. I think, look, I think that Houston, Texas,

considering when you look around, all you got to do is pan around the AFC. Yeah. The Chiefs right now aren't playing Chiefs football. They're not the dominant team. Cincinnati, 0 and 2. The Ravens, 0 and 2. Hey, Texans, 2 and 0.

So they're like, hold on. We feel pretty good with where we sit. Yeah. Yeah. Listen, it's only we two. Now we have a long season to go. And when you think about it, you know, the way I look at it is, is you can't just sit around and watch the game.

You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. You can't just sit around and watch the game. Yeah, yeah. Listen, it's only way too long. Now we got a long season to go in. And when you think about it, you know, the way I look at it is,

is you play football in different halves. You got the first half of the season, September, October. You got the back half of the season with nut cutting time. We really count. And I don't really think football really started to after goddamn Thanksgiving. Well, the thing is, the season doesn't start till it gets cold. Well, it doesn't get cold in that dorm in Houston. And they've already gone to Indy,

so they're one up into the division. A win over a division opponent, which is Indy. And guess what? Isn't Jacksonville 0-2? Indy 0 and two. Yeah. What's in that division? The Titans.

Yeah. And the Titans, the Titans are what? Oh, and two, they are. Yeah. So I, Hey, if I'm the Houston Texans, I'll tell you what I know it's only week two, but I'd rather be two and only knowing too. Yeah, you're right. Oh yes.

Right. You know, they said they did be the Jess, the Jess did be the Titans today. Yeah. The Jeff beat them. And so, you know, I got a get you right. Oh, yes. Right. You know, they did be the just the just did be the tights today. Yeah, just beat them. And so, you know, I got a two game lead, don't you? I got a two game lead. And so I think the Houston Texans, like I said, I like what I saw. I think the well coach, they got they got guys on the defensive line that can get out there, can put pressure on it.

Really? They're good on the back end. I like Stingley Jr. But because they can pressure you Denial Hunter Will Anderson jr. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they got they got some players. They got some players Oh Joe, they got some players that can go get there can go get the quarterback and hunt the quarterback Mario Edwards jr They got guys that can you know, you know, I mean and he will bring pressure He will you make our will bring pressure, but he has a front four that's rotational

and they can go get your quarterback. They can confuse him, cause you some problems. But I like what I see with this team. But I'm not giving up on the Bears just yet. I think the Bears have a great young team. And I know DJ Boy got frustrated. Oh, Joe, you don't play with a rookie quarterback. You're a better receiver.

You know, you you want it how you want it. He's trying to figure things out. It's flying a thousand miles an hour. I don't got hit. First of all, he got sacked seven times. How many times did he get hit? How many times did he have to break, break four or five tackles in the backfield,

Ocho, only to get two yards? So he like, man, it wasn't like this at USC. Yeah. I mean, he gonna be all right, though. Listen, if you watch Caleb Williams play, no matter what you may think, they might be on to but it's promise is promising as a quarterback being the most difficult position. No, the most important positions to play, which is also difficult as a rookie. He's going to be OK. He has all the intangibles.

He has all the all the tools that are needed to be successful, which is why even though they're O and two, there are still glimpses of hope for him and how good he's going to be. All he has to do is be better with the ball and some of his decision-making and not start turning the ball over for no apparent reason at all.

Yeah, that's the one thing he's gonna have to eliminate because that's what gets you beat, Ocho. It's turning the... because it's hard enough. I mean, because now you're not even giving yourself a chance. Because they're going to get X amount of possessions. Now you create even more possessions for them and less possessions for you. Less time of possession for you. And, you know, you're probably going to put them on a short field. So that's something that definitely going to have to be mindful of. Oh, Joe. But man, what do we got here? Let me pull up. Let's go to the chief beat the Bengals as Buckner.

Hell no. Hell, hell no. Hell no. No, ain't no ain't no cheese beat no bangles. Ain't that no. Let's put an asterisk by that. Let's let's say the refs help too. Let's say that let's say the refs help too. Cheese beat the bingles. Cheese beat the bingles 26-25. Three turnovers wasn't enough to ruin Kansas City at home. They maintained their points, still managed to put together a balanced attack. They ran the ball for a buck 49. Isaiah Pacheco led the way with 90 yards on 20 carries.

Patrick Mahomes only had 151 yards passing. Plus he turned the ball over twice. The Chiefs needed a P.I. late to win by one. Since the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow in 2020, they played the Chiefs six times and each team has won three. And the average margin of victory is three point five points taking out the Browning game that the drops the two point six. In fact, Patrick Mahomes and Burrow is the first starting quarterback

matchup since 1950 with five straight matchups decided by three or fewer points. Yeah. Hey, that goddamn game was Yeah. Hey, that game was good. What it was. That game was good. You watched it on. Listen, Chad, if you saw the Bengals team game, it was good. Listen, we had about five lead lead changes within the game.

The Bengals team I saw today, as opposed to what I saw when they played the Patriots last week, was night and day. Yeah. It was night and day. It was night and day. So I'm happy. What I took from it, even though we lost the game, because of, you know, it was a PI. I'm going to say that, chat. I'm going to say it. At the end of the game, that was the passing interference. Okay. Okay. I thought you said it wasn't a PI. It was. It was. It was. I know a lot of not I know a lot of Bangles fans upset but as a receiver and as a former DB that was past interference. Yeah. In that case you have to do everything you can to not make contact with the receiver before the ball around and do whatever you can to swipe the hands.

Yeah. But it was past interference fairs, even though we upset, it's unfortunate that it always comes, and when it comes to the Bengals, in the Super Bowl, on Logan Wilson, on Cooper Cup, on that fourth down, always at the end of the game, when it matters most, a flag is always thrown when it comes to us for some reason. Offensively, we look good.

Yoshi hell of a game today. I want them to get Jamar Chase a little bit, a little bit more involved in the game. I want them to get Jamar Chase a little bit more involved in the game. Chase, you got to keep it cool, baby. I don't know. Chase, you got to keep you cool. What was he upset about? That wasn't a face mask. He had a shoulder pad. Yeah, yeah. I don't I'm not sure what he was upset about,

but he was upset. And that's my first time. Oh, he thought it was a hip, oh, he said, Ash said he thought it was a hip drop. Oh, now it wasn't a hip drop because he had him by the shoulder pad. Yeah. Now I don't think, I don't think,

I don't think Chase understood that. Right. You know, so I understand when he watches it back and he actually sees it and in real time, he understand, you know what my bad. And other than that, the frustration is also building up on him not as being as productive as he'd like as well. That's not forget the hip drop. You're not getting the catches in the balls you need and deserve.

Cause I'm gonna tell you what they gonna try to do. Let me tell you what they gonna try to do. They gonna try to play with you. Not only, not only are you not getting a production that you used to, when it comes time to get paid, you know what they gonna say? You ain't got the same numbers? Man.

I know what he's going to say. Hell, I've been there. I'm telling you the game that they're going to play now. I'm telling you. And I'm like, I ain't got the same targets either. I can see it already. I already know what they're going to do. Oh, well, you know what?

We don't think you deserve this because if you look at your numbers, it ain't the same as it was, you know, in the previous two years. So we don't really think you should be making top man. Shh, man, listen. What? Hey, it's a dirty business chat. It's a dirty business. I'm telling you. Yeah.

I'm but even in that situation, Ocho. Yes, sir. Oh, you got you got a whole you got to hold. Yeah. Oh, you got to bite your tongue on that one. Hold tight. Man, you know how many times late in the ball game, somebody done done some cheapish. Yeah. You like, oh, hey, all up.

I'm going to get you. Oh, yeah. I'm going to get you. I'm going to make it look like a play, but I'm going to get your ass. Yeah, I'm going to get you. Yeah, you're going to get you like you like you and elementary junior. I'm going get your ass. Yeah. I'm gonna get you. Yeah. Here we go. Hey, I'm gonna get you like you, like you and elementary junior. I'm gonna get you. Right. He was frustrated though.

Yeah. Obviously I think off offensively, what they also allowed, what they allowed the cheese to do is they allowed the cheese to dictate where the ball went. Yeah. Oh, they don't. They allowed the cheese to dictate where the ball went

instead of putting chase in positions to make plays. Now the plays he did make, it was a hot, you know, something that is about there. I can live with that. There ain't no impact plays. There ain't nothing splash. His long was 13. I can live with that long as there ain't no 30 40, no broken tackles. We know chase. We see him catch a routine route and take it to the house. We see them out, out high point somebody and get going. Yeah. Catch a routine route and take it to the house. We see them out, out, high point somebody and get going.

Yeah. If I can live with four for thirty five and all I'm saying is I don't believe these other receivers, I don't believe they can make enough plays to beat me. I know one can. He can single handedly beat me. Yeah. The other guys collectively know they can't know they can't. They can't make it. They can't make enough plays consistently can't let make enough plays consistently. Oh Joe.

So I'm going to double him. So if you're second and Burton and all junior sample, Mark, if all those guys, listen, I know, I hear what you're saying, but we have, we have very, very, very, very good depth at the receiving position. Now we've been able to beat you, but I think we can make enough plays consistently to be in the game. And that's what you saw today. You was in the game.

No, listen, there's no reason for my home to have three turnovers. And we didn't lose that. That's the turnovers too. I'm talking about bad. This, whoa, hey, that got damn, Cam Taylor-Brittain interception. Oh, no, that was the one, hey, yeah. Hey, that was beautiful, Taylor, Britain, interception. Oh, no, that was one. Yeah.

Hey, that was beautiful, boy. Oh, that was beautiful, but worthy. I mean, I just want you to I just want to know one thing worthy. Where do you think you were? You thought it was Christmas and Santa Claus was going to come down the chimney because that was the only way you could throw the ball. Because what you have to do worthy is that you got to stack him. You can't let him.

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receiver in the league, obviously having the fastest NFL time of NFL time, combine time of all time. 4-2 and 4-3, I don't think people understand how close that is. Yeah, I'm talking about in real time and two individuals. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is photo and this is full three. Like it is right there. So you you you and arm you and arm's length and arm's reach.

It ain't like this huge gap. I think people people fail to realize that and have this perception that if you run four two, oh, you just that much faster than everybody else. Hell, all the skills that is out there run four three, huh? Mm-hmm. So from a technical standpoint, if you four two and I'm four three

and I make you bow all the way around and you ain't making no move. Oh, no, no, yeah, yeah. All I'm four three and I make you bow all the way around and you even making no move. Oh, I'm right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All I'm gonna do is just cut you off to the point and run you to the sideline. You, hey, you go, hey, I'll make you run the loop and I'll be going, ooh. That's it. I'm gonna intercept you right there at the point. Because I know the ball gotta be where the ball gotta be. The ball's gotta be somewhere between 40 and 44 yards and the four yards from the sideline.

I know that every time the ball comes out to the same time, go hit at the same spot every single time, every single day. Listen, you got the win in the phone booth, right at the step of the ball. You got to win there. People think all go around people. They're not going to run the you're not going to first of all, you're not going to just run the loop and be the four or four or four or five guy because he's going to he knows

he's going to intercept you. Look at Rebus. Rebus ain't run no four four. No, no, no, no, no, no. Hey, he was so he was so technically sound, though. And his not not ball, not ball control. His ball skills. Oh yeah.

Were elite. Once you get to a certain point, he get his eyes back. He got that arm bar right at the hip. So he can feel where you at. And listen. He gonna ride you to the sideline. He long. Because if you look at the way Reivers was built,

he's long arm. So in other words, his leg, most most athletes, black athletes, potentially have longer have longer legs and shorter torsos. Yes, sir. He are extremely long. Yes, sir. So when you look at it, if you go look at pictures of Reivers and look how far he's got his size, look how long his arms are. Yeah. And if you notice something about Reivas, he never went for the first move. Oh man, listen, hey chat, let me tell y'all something.

He's here right here, oh Joe. Hey chat, listen to me. Rivas had the patience of Sallie Mae. I'm not bullshitting you, not. Rivas had the patience of Sallie Mae. There was one receiver, one receiver, when Rivas was in his prime, that was able to get him on a consistent basis and that was Stevie goddamn Johnson.

Yeah. That's it. Like a big receiver, a big receiver was always going to have problems with him. Oh yeah. You needed to have quick, see I'm surprised you didn't have more success, but I think because you weren't as physical as you needed to be. No, no, no, no, no. If you didn't, if a big receiver that don't have quick twitch,

he gonna eat you up. Oh, you done. He gonna eat you up. Done, every time. He gonna eat you up. But here's the thing, Ochoa, people look at it and they think it's just speed that makes Tyreek so good.

Tyreek has learned how to run the route tree. If Worthy, if the Kansas City Chief want to maximize what Xavier Worthy can be, he's gonna have to run plant routes, he's gonna have to run out routes, he's gonna have to run unders, he's gonna have to run digs, he's gonna have to run comebacks,

because everybody knows, Dale, first of all, it takes a lot to slow that speed down, Ocho. Yeah, hold on, that's the whole thing. I'm glad you just said that. I'm glad you just said that. I'm glad you just said that because worthy doesn't even have to run full speed. They already scared it anyway. All you got to do is exaggerate, exaggerate your running motion under control because once you come up the ball, they get in the effort by the day anyway.

Yeah. Learn how to set up the slant. Learn how to set up the dig, learn how to run the curl, give the illusion that you run it fast. Me really not. So it's easy to transition. Yes. Man, come on. Oh, you ain't got to tell me I, I mean, I wish I could, I wish I could like sit

down and talk to him. It's like, okay, tell me what you're thinking. Oh, you got, okay. You got this route. Tim, what you're thinking. You OK, you got this route. Tell me what you're thinking. Yeah. They look at the outside, he had up the inside. What? How? How are you going to process it when you come out the huddle? What are you thinking? Yeah.

Now, also. With your alignment in this film, what else can you run? Because you got to be able to play, you got to be able to play, you gotta be able to play with your splits. Because if you line up with the same, them D.B. They know what you're doing. They know what you're doing. They done studied film. So the ball to the left has,

and you two yards on the outside of the number, hell, it's only two or three things you finna do. Yeah, yes, yes. I know, so you're gonna have to play with your split. I mean, and they're going to be watching if all of a sudden you on the right side, if you normally like most people, a lot of a lot of teams like when we're like growing up, if you was on the left side over here, you put your left foot back. You're on the right side. You put your right foot back.

OK, now when we run that bang, we want the inside leg up. Yeah, I got to be seven, we want the inside leg up. Yeah, it gotta be seven steps. Oh, but hold on. You don't normally do that. Right. Hey, watch that glance, watch that bang route. Cause I see your alignment. That is what you normally do.

Calling it out, yeah. Oh yeah, oh, he like, oh, Sean, you ain't, you're fit to run around. Cause you ain't got no pressure on that hand. Right. You're right. You know, I'm saying, oh, I'm saying like, yeah, I told you how to DB had the veteran DB that never get Aaron Glenn. Aaron Glenn told me, hey, boy, I know every time you finna get the ball because you come to the line of scrimmage

and you do your gloves like this, pull it tight and you restrap him. I'm studying everything. And every time he was right. But he told me after the game, I know when the ball come at A5 you tighten your glove, you do like this when you come to the line of scrimmage and you restrap him every time. Yep. Don't give him no keys.

Nope. I said, God damn. Yes. We watch it said, God damn. Yes. We watched it. We watched it everything. Yep. Cause a lot of times, a lot, just like anything else.

I mean, you have a dominant leg that you want to push off of. Yeah. So do D-Limer. They have a dominant leg they want to push off of. So if I, all of a sudden, if you even, more times than not, if you even, okay, you're going to drop in coverage or you plan to run. But if you stagger

that stance, right? Oh, you're trying to get off the rock. So I think that's the thing with worthy. If that's, if I can share any information to them, you're going to have to start, you're going to have to do something other than go deep. You're going to have to learn, okay, off this film, I can also run X, Y and Z. I just don't have to run the go round and you have to play with it. Because I mean, you line up tight to the number. You ain't running a damn goal from there. Right.

It would take you all day. So you know, he's going to be good, though. He's going to be good. I mean, you know how Andy Reid is, how creative he is when it comes to using players, you know, especially to their strengths. But when Worthy can, whatever his weaknesses are, once he can make take those weaknesses and make them, they don't need to be his strengths, but make them good, then he becomes that much more valuable. And the playbook for him opens up

exponentially. You know what I would do, O Oh, I would go to the film department. I say, go give me every tape you got on Tyreek Hill. Every case, every, every practice tape, every game, every game tape. I'm going to study Tyreek Hill. When I got into this business, I'll show it, I knew I was going to be interviewing people. I asked Eric Mann, the guy that I love, that I love this interviewing style and I'm nothing like because he trained in this, was Ed Bradley.

I said, give me every interview Ed Bradley did at 60 Minutes. They got me about 40 hours of interviews of Ed Bradley. I love Matt Lauer's Matt Lauer's interview style. I studied him. Go study people, save your word, the comparable to you with speed wise is Tyreek. He played in that system. You're gonna be running a lot of the same routes,

just the same system. The same coach that drafted Tyreek drafted you. The same way. And Tyreek came you the same way. And Tyreek came in as kind of like a gadget guy. He would like to come in and give him a gift. He had a package. You can't return a punt returner, but they had a package of plays for him

because he's too he had too much speed not to try to get the football in his hand. But he taught himself how to run the tree. Now he's going to run his way all the way to camp. I'm not saying Xavier worthy can do that, but I believe he can be a very, very valuable cog. That's the guy I'm studying. That's the guy I'm watching. That's what you do, Ocho. I mean, I watch tape of Todd Christensen, Ozzy Newsome,

and Kellen Winslow. Those were the guys that I watched. I didn't study anybody else because their skill set didn't fit what I did. Their skill set, Big Kellan, Ozzy and Todd Christensen. Their skill set fit my skill set. I was like, damn, I like them. Ozzy was a wide receiver. Kellan played with a tight end.

Todd was a wide receiver at BYU. I said, okay, that's what I need to study. That's what I need to do. That's what I need to do. That's, that's what I offer. That's the advice I would offer Xavier worthy. But I say this one more time, what's your, the Bengals need to be careful. What happened? Because if you notice, they always talk about we're beat to beat that team.

What happens when you don't come up against that team in the playoffs? Then what? You know how they say somebody, Oh, we built to beat X, Y, X team on top. But what if you come up against that team in the playoffs, then what? You know how they say somebody, oh, we built to be X, Y, X team on top. But what if you come up against W and you don't see X? We'll probably win. I think you know what I think it is from a personnel standpoint. I don't know what it is about why we play so well against the Chiefs, despite despite the turnovers, if we could have got more points out of

those three turnovers I think we could have actually not blew them out I don't want to use the word blow out because y'all play coverage because y'all can get pressure with your four and you drop seven in coverage I watched they ended up benching the left tackle because he was so bad you see this is what I'm talking about Ocho this is what I'm talking about. Oh Joe. This is what I'm talking about with football IQ But the chief left tackle chief left tackle number 76. I can't remember. I saw him complaining too. You saw when uh, the the person every The guy that called the touchdown pass replaced it got hands to the face. Yes Yeah, and he on the sidelines about see y'all took me at the game now Yeah, they took you out the game because you better get Patrick my's head beat in. Oh Joe. Yeah. This is what I know. When you're helping when, when the left tackle, right tackle, they always going to

ask Sharpie, what are you doing? Garrett Zimmerman never wanted me to, he didn't want me to touch the guy because he says, sharp, I'm going to set a certain way. He called me Sharpie. He say Sharpie, I'm going to set a certain way. He called me sharp. He's a sharpie I'm gonna set a certain way if you hit him I might over set him into you push him inside or I might expect some so he didn't want me to touch it He was he was one of the few people one of the tackles I played with he didn't want he did not want you to chill He's sitting a certain way, but a lot of guys. I'm like, okay, I got you here. I got you. I got you outside, which means you can sit as heavy as you want to inside because I got to protect it on the outside.

But Shaco is coming to chip on his outside. He oversets him to the outside and Hendricks goes inside. He says, thanks, you got to be kidding me. I'm like, bro. I'm sorry, I just, I said, I mean, I just want to know what your report card say. Did you get an F or you? Was it satisfactory or unsatisfactory?

Because I'm confused right now with you. Satisfactory. I mean, he got, he got, he got, he got. You know the back, the back is coming. I know they told him. Cause you look at Pacheco, he checks, he goes wide. He's gonna chip him. If he comes up the field,

Pacheco is gonna chip him back onto the tackle. Right. Just don't, just don't overset outside and give him a free route. Because guess what? Henderson sees that, oh, hook him Pacheco. Oh, you're set wide. Oh, I'm going inside.

Right away. That's what I'm saying guys with IQ, no way you help. Hey, I'm asking, hey, what y'all doing? Cause I needed to know, cause sometimes the tackle had to step down to secure the gap with the guard. I needed to know that because now that's gonna impact my stance.

Do I sit, do I take a hard step inside or can I sit outside? Hey, Zama, my about, hey, they gonna let me know. They're telling me, we say Gilligan. That means Shannon, you on an island. Yeah, you by yourself. Hey, oh, okay. You on your own.

Orcho, now, this is what I've been lifted by. I gotta use these muscles on him now, Orcho. I gotta use these muscles on him. So what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna quick set him cause he's not anticipating me being there. Right. So once I quick set him and I get locked in, oh, he ain't going nowhere.

Are you trying to beat him to the punch? I'll beat him to the punch. Yeah. Because he's not anticipating me pass blocking. I mean, you see me, oh, I know you going out for a route. So you just gonna do your thing cause you think you got the tackle. Right.

Bam! I'm right there. So you just go, you just going to do your thing because you think you got to tackle. Right. Bam. I'm right there. But just guys, just understand where your help is. That'll eliminate a lot of the problems. Just understanding where your help is, where you're vulnerable. You're not going to beat me where my strength is. I got outside. I'm sitting outside, I'm sitting heavy outside. You know what? I think a lot of players, a lot of teams are still gelling.

You can practice all you want. You know, you and I have said it all the time. You can practice over and over and over, but once you get into a game, it's different. Sometimes you forget things, things that you don't naturally do in practice. You, you, you be extra. You're doing stuff you don't normally do in practice.

You do it in the game. Think about, I think by the time, especially when it comes to offenses, office aligns, by the time they get the week four and week five, I think everybody will be in rhythm and have, and have some type of continuity to where the office is flowing and, and running like a well-oiled machine. Oh, Joe, you know, we only might only have us do two minutes at the end of practice. Yeah, we did two minutes in the practice, too. When you dog tired.

Yeah. Bingo, because that he says, I know. He said, I know when it's fresh, you're going to be thinking. He said, I want to talk tired. I want you exhausted. That's what I want you to think, because that's going to be the difference in the game. Can you think under pressure? Can you think under fire? You know, there's a movie I think Denzel was in the Courage Under Fire.

Yeah. The question is, can you think under fire? Like you say, you get tired. Lombardi said fatigue will make cowards of us all. Oh, yeah. Okay? Now I'm tired. Can I still think I got hot? Okay, I'm protected. Okay, I got chill.

I got this, I got that. That's the thing. Guys get tired, they just forget everything. No, bro, it's more to it than that. Hey, that's too many hell, boy, when you tired. Hey listen, when you on a 11, 12 play drive, that's a little extensive. Let's say eight or nine play drive.

Man, five or six. Man, you running routes, so you gotta realize running routes. Yeah. Ain't like you run the whole bunch, it ain't like you run the whole bunch. Even if you run the shallow cross, they throw you the ball. You gain 10. They throw you the ball again. You gain eight.

Now you run a clear route. That lactic acid and built up on that second catch. Boy, you go to about a we go start out. You know, we're going to start out in two minutes. Gonna go get them tired. I'll have we will be tired Somebody running, somebody running against them. You make it seem like data. Bambi.

Oh Joe. The Saints scored touchdowns on six straight possessions and on their way to a 44-19 blowout over the Cowboys. The Saints offense has scored 91 points in two games. Through three quarters, the Saints average nine points, a little less than 10 yards per play. 35 points allowed are the most, as time for the most given up through the first two quarters.

They tied us because we put 35 on their ass in 98 and a half. Last year, the Cowboys allowed 35 points in just one game. Carl was hardly touched. Neither was Alvin, who scored four touchdowns. Let's take a listen to what Dak had to say after the embarrassing loss. That's simply why you can't listen to other people's opinions and read with you guys. You guys right respectfully. I mean, yeah, you know, y'all may have put this team on a high more than we should have

been and now we just simply have got to reset, we've got to respond. We're not going undefeated, you know? I mean, it hadn't been done in 50 years, woo surprise. So it's about getting back to it and finding a way to respond to put the best team on the field next week. Hey. I tried to prepare you for this, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I told you, I said, Ocho, I'm gonna let you go, but I want to say this. Yeah. We talk about the Cowboys, we'll start with the defense. I said, look, I wasn't really that impressed with the Cowboys' offense last week. I said, they got a punt return, and they got, you know, a couple of turnover to put them on short fields.

I say, the defense looked really good, but I say, I would really like to see them if they had their starting tackles in there. I say, because what happens if you can hold up? I guess we got to answer. I did not hear Michael Parsons name call. I did not hear D Lawd name call. When you go in and it, Ocho,

do you know how hard it is? I want you to explain to the fans? Cause I'm going to let you take it over and I'm a follow up after you. Can you explain to the fans how difficult it is? Our listeners are viewing and our listeners that's going to listen to this on audio. Can you explain to them how difficult it is to score six touchdowns on six straight possession in an NFL game? Wait, hold on.

Forget the NFL game. Do you know how difficult it is to score six touchdowns on six straight possession in an NFL game. Wait, hold on. Forget the NFL game. Do you know how difficult it is to score six touchdowns on six possessions in Madden in a video game? If you're playing someone that's good, it's very difficult. So the fact that this is Derek Carr, this is the same Derek Carr that the Raiders let go. Right. That's the same Derek Carr, right? Look completely different today. Rashid Shahid is is that how you say say his name? Yeah. Rashid Shahid, Chris Olavi and they

got damn Alvin Camaro. They look like a completely different Saints team today. I don't know and I'm I don't want to butcher anybody's name. Whoever the right tackle and the left tackle are for New Orleans Saints that're deserved to pay raise. Oh, they did a number on them.

There wasn't no, no, no stunt, no nothing. They barely got the goddamn dairy car. It was able to pressure him. Tasting Hill Swiss army knife. He coming out the backfield. He had quarterback doing quarterback sneaks. I mean, everything worked today. Everything worked. If I'm not mistaken, the Saints didn't punt.

I could be wrong. Nine minutes in the third, fourth quarter. Nine minutes. Was it third or fourth quarter? Fourth. Nine minutes into the fourth quarter. That's, I mean, it's, I'm sure it's happened before, but come on, man. I don't know. I didn't it's happened before, but come on, man. I don't know. I didn't expect it to happen to the Cowboys.

Again. One thing that the Cowboys always do, they have a game like this, maybe not them allowing a team to score 35, but they're going 12 and five the last what, three years in a row. Yes. So this is this is one game down. I am assuming knowing them and the way they bounce back after loss, they will look completely different next week. And everybody will be back happy. It couldn't stop. Look, Derek Carlin's level of 16, 243 to just down a pit, a sack.

He had a 99 cubic, 99 QBR. Alvin Camaro has some of the best balance I've ever seen. Oh, yeah. I mean, you think you got it. You got to wrap up. You got to wrap all the way up. He is phenomenal. Yeah. Playing through contact.

Twenty rushes, 115, three touchdowns. They had 39 carriers, a buck 90. I just don't know. I don't know what that was today because the Saints did whatever they want. They got whatever they wanted and as much of it as they wanted. That's embarrassing.

Yeah. That's embarrassing. Do your army, the Cowboys defense should defense should be look that didn't play well. And this is not all on that. And people like, well, you think that's all that fault? No, but you're allowed to match what the opposing office when guess what? When the same store, they're like that, when they kick it off, that is allowed to go score now. Yeah. And you know, that's the type of game I thought it was going to be at the beginning.

That's the type of game I thought it was going to be. I beginning. That's the type of game I thought it was going to be. I thought, you know, I say, man, boy, this is looking to be. It's going to be a shootout. Yeah. The same score, the Cowboys score. OK, the same score. OK, the Cowboys score. I was expecting, you know, both teams to put up 40, 42, 35. That's what I thought it was going to look like. Turnover, interception.

And they were capitalizing on those turnovers. They put their kick, no field goal. They scored touchdowns, touchdowns. Now, if my bangles could have done that today. Yeah. Shit. But the Cowboys need another receiver. Oh, they got a CD. And you see when they started doubling CD, you see how difficult life got with that?

Yeah. Yeah. But you know what I like? You know what I like about what the Cowboys do with CD lamb? They move him all around. And three by one, they'll put him at the three. And three by one, they'll put him at the two. Sometimes he'll be on the outside. Sometimes he'll be on the opposite side as the X.

So I like, even though they try to double him, they move him around so much, it makes it difficult. If you think about it, Ojo, after he got that long touchdown run, he only got one more pass. Yeah, yeah. I hate when that happens. I hate when that happens.

You think you about to have a bomb day. A day. I already got to be a long term, I don't got to be about 90, I don't got to be about 90. I don't got to be a 90. It's the first quarter. I'm like, yeah, I'm adding up in my head. Okay, that's at least 151, 182 at the least.

And the fact that you just said that, I don't know if we can get into the Kyla Murray game today. Remember what I said about Marvin Harrison Jr. yesterday, last night show, I said said he is going to go off. It's just the way the NFL works. Just I don't know how to explain it, but he went crazy in the, in the, in the first quarter and I sent out a tweet. I sent out a tweet and said, I guarantee you, even though he's on fire, like NBA

jam character, they gonna stop going to them. And lo and behold, I think the stat line might have been the same at the end of the damn game. It was. He only had, I think he had to got another target when that was it. They do it every time. I will never be able to understand why it works like that. They just run the offense.

And I guess if a defense says, you know what, the rest of the game, we taking Marvin Harrison Jr. out of the game, the offense, the coordinator, allows the team to do just that. I hate when they allow a team to dictate where you go with the ball. I hate it. Force your goddamn will sometime.

They gotta... This is embarrassing though, Ojo. You can't get beat like this, man. Hold on. It's only week two. Is it really embarrassing to lose? Yes. Yes. To as opposed to a little bit in 11 games in 12 games in. Oh, Joe, to give. Oh, Joe, you allowed a team to go six for six touchdowns.

You said it's hard to do on Madden. Oh, yeah, it's hard to do in the video game. Well, they just did it in the game. Especially you playing a quality opponent. Oh, that's what you told me the Cowboys were? I said that? Yeah. Nah, I said that.

Yeah, you said that. Oh, that, oh, that, that, that, that, that, that, that. Boy, that's what we, yeah, yeah, yeah, that, that, that's my boy now. Now, they go, they go. Hey, y'all must have got separated at birth somehow. Y'all lost contact. Yeah.

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Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, they're going to be all right. You know, you're going to have, you know what? This is a good thing though. You know, it's really not, sometimes this can be a blessing in disguise to have a game like this early and get it out the way to have some teaching tape, to have some film

for Mike Zimmer to go over with the defense. Listen, we can't have this. That. Tolbert, every severs, CD, lamb, Z. Go back, look at the film. OK, this is what we need to do. This three yards of carry. That was average. Oh, Joe, three yards of carry.

What you going to do with it? Hard. Sometimes you had games like that. Sometimes you had games like that. Now, watch, watch, look, watch how you look next week. And guess what? I mean, they didn't run the ball particularly well last week. You make it extremely difficult when you become one dimensional in a field.

You can't run the ball, yeah. You make it very, very difficult. And what could the Saints do? Because the Saints could run the ball, when they went play action, what happened? Wide open. You see, I mean, think about it. They could run the ball so well, and when Carl faked

that ball in there, and he pulled it out, that's quarter coverage. That's Shaheed ran through. That's quarters. Yeah. Say the safety setting low. Yes, that's quarters. But they got a hole because they worried about

Alvin Kamara shooting through there. And then, you know, Shaheed got speed. Oh, he fast now. Oh man, see, he got up on them horses. They both look at each other. I mean, what you want me to do because who I'm blaming is quarter. He read. Twenty five, whatever you want to call it, 88, whatever,

whatever covers you want to call it, no joke, that's what it was. A quarter cover. Everybody got a quarter to feel. Safety, you got a quarter, corner, you got a quarter. Safety got a quarter and other left corner got a quarter. And he ran through the quarters, the safeties and boom. What, 70 yards, 80, whatever how far it was. Oh Joe, that's your home opener.

That's your home opener. That's your home opener. 80 plus thousand. Woo! Because you know what they do every week, every week the Cowboys, they show that view. The Cowboys fans, they lined up to go eat. They lined up to go eat. Woo!

And they open the doors and they run it. Woo! The Cowboys, the cowboy, the cowboy. Man, to get beat like that, Ocho. It's bad. Was it? Listen, I told you, I think they gon' be all right. I think they gon' be all right. Hey, get them losses out the way now. Get them out the way now as opposed to as

opposed to later on in the season and one of them losses cause you to go home. You're supposed to be Dallas. I mean, if you go back and look the last couple years, Dallas has been really poor against the rush and when you allow a team to run the football, they're gonna play action off of of it and you're going to have guys wide ass open. I mean, the last time we saw them, the last time we saw them last year against the Packers, what the Packers did? Ran them off the field. Right down, right down they throw.

No, no trickery. Right down they throw. Right down it. Ocho the Ravens are 0 and 2 as the Raiders go on the road and win 26-23. This marks the Ravens fourth loss after leading by double digits in the fourth quarter since 2022. This ties the Bears for the most in the NFL in that span. The Ravens can only blame themselves for this fourth quarter collapse. The only time Baltimore has started 0 and 2 and coached John Harbaugh's previous 16 seasons was 2015 after failing to hold onto a 10 point lead against

the Raiders with 12 minutes remaining. The Baltimore dug itself into a hole. The Raven's next three games are against the defending division champs at Dallas at home against Buffalo at Cincinnati. The Raiders had only 48 yards of offense at halftime Baltimore, but Gardner mentioned Devante Adams, and Devontae Adams came to life in the second half. Devontae finished with nine for buck 10 and a touchdown.

Yeah. Ocho? Best receiver in the game right there, boy. Devontae Adams. Raiders. You gotta capitalize on that, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, most definitely. Listen, up 10 with 12 and a fourth, right?

Yes. When they say it's a game of inches, this is what they talk about. Not only is the game inches, there are one, two, maybe three plays out of what, the 65 and maybe 70 you run. One, two, maybe three plays that make what the 65 or maybe 70 you run one, two, maybe three plays that make the difference in the game.

Yeah, I guarantee you if we were to if we were to have the time to break down this film in somewhat of a PowerPoint presentation style to the chat, we can show you the one or two or three plays that made the difference in his game or why they were able to come back and win. one or two or three plays that made the difference in his game on why they were able to come back and win. Game random, but they ran the ball well,

Derrick Henry, 18 for 84 Lamar, five for 45 Hill, four for 42. So 24, 27 rushes, 151 they fly with seven for 91 Mark Andrews, four for 51 Bateman had three for 40, likely two for 26 Lamar was 21 of 34, 247, one touchdown, one INT. Missed a couple of throws he'd like to have back. Two sacks, 15 yards. Yeah. But with Lamar Jackson, MVP as my quarterback,

and Derek Heard as my running back, I should be able to hold a 10 point lead with 12 minutes to go into fourth. Oh yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Absolutely. First of all, I got to be. I've got to be able to hold the 10 point lead with 12 minutes to go in the fourth. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. I got first of all, I got to be I've got to be able to hold that. I've got it. You know, it also comes down to the play calling as well.

No, we're not going to do that. Oh, no. OK, OK, OK. Not to see you go see what you did. So let me ask you a question. When they win the game, you don't say nothing about play calling. You say that's what players do. They make plays. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right. I understand what you a question. When they win the game, you don't say nothing about play calling. You say that's what players do. They make plays. Right, right, right, right, right, right, right, right.

I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying, you know, when it comes- Okay, what would you have like, okay, let me tell you, I'm gonna take your argument. What would you have liked to see them do more or less? More or less of, in that instance? What would you have liked to see them do more of, and then what would you have liked to see them do less of?

I think they should have run the ball a little bit more, run the ball a little bit more. It is rare that you see them. Normally they have more paths, especially because they got the lead to have more passing attempts than rushing attempts. Bingo. But John, listen, you brought Derek Henry in for a reason. But he said, he said they did not bring Derek Henry there to give him 30 touches again. That's a goddamn lie.

And he said that you lost a day up 10 and up 10 with 12 minutes to go on the fourth in the fact that's when you're supposed to use your dairy Henry to his advantage. And you don't do it. Yeah. You try to do something that's really not the way your office is built. You got built to throw the ball, got there 50 times a game. That's not the type of offense Baltimore is. No, I'm surprised they got that many throws in Lamar. Throw the ball. You got that right. Yes.

But this is the drop back? First down, second down, third down? No. No. It's not the Ravens. I'm surprised, don't you, considering. When you go back and look at it, what's the? No.

Hold on. Look for something right quick. Uh. What is this? Hold on. Look for something right quick. What it is. Considering the time of possession, was it that they ended up losing the T.O.P. by about over a minute? But when you look at it, that you had a 10 point lead

in the fourth, and to have more pass attempts, the rush attempts, that's not normally the Raven's recipe for success. It's normally the other way around. More rush, you can see them having 35, 40 rush attempts. And then they'll have 20 to 25 pass attempts. But they threw the ball a lot today, which is surprising. Maybe they saw something, you know, you know, maybe they saw like, hey,

they're the corners of the safety. We feel that we could hold up again. Max probably going to wreck some stuff every time. Every time. And I mean mean I don't read it The rate of steel plate man-to-man man-to-man safety middle field couple three couple four We mean this is what we running. We not changing. We not bluffing. We're not doing nothing exotic defensively Line up and play That's the only that's the only reason I can think of them just throwing the ball so much.

Ain't going away from the run because there's a safety down in the box. I mean, I like Lamar only had five rushes. I'm okay with that. But those, because last week I think he had like 10, 11, 12 rushes last week, maybe had like 14, 15. Yeah. Give Derek Henry another six or seven carries.

So you didn't bring him there for you, didn't bring him there for 30 or even 22 to 25. I can live with that. I can live with that. But I can live with that. But like I said, look. Pittsburgh is the number one in the division, the two and oh, Baltimore is going to Cleveland one and one Cincinnati is going to as you guys play Cincinnati in the next, I think in the next three weeks, Ocho. So it's going to be it's going to be very, very interesting.

But like I said, I mean, at the end of the day, you are what you are. You are you are physical, very interesting. But like I said, I mean, at the end of the day, you are what you are. You are a physical, physical team. Defensive was good. Good corners. I mean, Garnaventure was 30 of 38, damn. Yeah, he was cooking that. Ooh, he was cooking. Hey, man, that tight end, Brock Bowers.

Oh, he the real deal. Oh, man, he legit. In fact, I'm gonna take my hat off for Brock Bowers, boy. You the real deal, boy. Yes, yes, yes, yes. He nice. He for real, for real. Ocho, nine catches, nine targets.

Hold on. He gonna get open every time. Yeah. He ain't no slouch. He gonna be nice. I saw him in freshman year at Georgia. I said, this kid could come out now. You could tell, huh? Yeah, hell yeah.

Some players just can look at them. Yeah, yeah, he can move. He can drop his hips. He got wiggled, yes. Absolutely, he can play. He gonna be hell. Oh yeah. He gonna be hell now.

But look, like you said, the Ravens are 0-2, 0-1 at home. They lose to the Raiders. The Ravens are 0-2, 0-1 at home. They lose to the Raiders. The Ravens are 0-2, the Raiders are 1-1. Come back, get a hard fought victory on the road. Make that long ass playing ride very pleasant coming back home. 26-23, Raiders win over the Ravens.

Ravens fall to 0-2. Apparently, it's Kyle O'Murray's job to get Marvin Harrison Jr. to football. The Cardinals rookie wide receiver followed a one catch performance in his NFL debut with 130 and two touchdowns in the first quarter. Kyler completed 17 or 21 passes, 266 yards and three touchdowns. Kyler also rushed for 59 yards has touched on the deep throws. The Harrison was unbelievable.

And Harrison did a great job. That first, that first touchdown wasn't an easy catch. Oh Joe Oh, no, that was not an easy catch But did you see the difference between what he did and what likely had Mm-hmm, I guess Kansas City you see what what Harrison jr. Do go limp You see I you see how this body just went limp. Oh Joe. Yeah, it ain't trying to stand up? Go limp. You see how his body just went limp, Ocho? Yeah. Ain't trying to stand up. Go limp. Yeah.

Boom. That boy, that, hey, this class, he and neighbors. Yeah. I don't know if we got to talk about neighbors tonight, but Marvin Harrison Jr. for real. Oh yeah, he not. Neighbors are for real too. Thanks.

But what, what did you like? Because you said this, Ocho, you said, hey, I bet they get him involved tomorrow. Yeah, I mean, I just I just knew it after having a showing the number number. What number pick was Marvin Harrison Jr.? Like five, four, four, four. The come out on your debut and have one catch. That's embarrassing, man. Not the same as an organization in general, to come out on your debut and have one catch.

That's embarrassing, man. Not to him, I understand as an organization in general, not featuring the best receiver. Our could be the best receiver in the draft. What are we doing? Are we even serious about winning, competing, not highlighting our new shiny toy? So I understood and knew what they were gonna do the following week. Oh they finna feature him. Or they finna get

they finna get him going. Getting some targets. Getting some touches. They did that in the first quarter and I said you know what I sent a tweet out the chat the check of the test. After that first quarter I said I guarantee you his stat line look exactly the same in the first quarter as it does in the fourth, because they gonna stop feeding them. They do it every time. Because the defense adjusts. Okay, y'all find 18 as soon as you break the huddle. But it's hard, Ocho. Recalling our play in our formation, wherever 18 line up, we Dublin. But Ocho, they ran the ball 40 times for 231. Why I got to throw it, if I can just put the ball

to the guy, then he gets here, y'all. And I ain't got to worry about no tip passes. I ain't got to worry about, you know, got slipping down to get picked. I just turn around and handed to Connor and he get five, seven, eight yards. I'm like, bro, Cali Murr had, James Connor had 21 carries, 122 a touchdown. Kyle was five for 59. De Mercado, two for 46. I mean, if y'all, if I tell you what,

this is what I used to hear the defense all the time. If y'all stop TD, we'll throw it. But if you don't stop TD, we're not gonna throw it. At least give yourself a chance. You let this man get seven, eight, 10 yards of carry. You think Mike gonna call a damn pass? I'm saying, hey, stop there. Y'all can't stop TD.

We'll throw it. I promise you, if you stop TD twice, we gonna throw it. Bang going right in there. I mean, Kyle did 17 to 21. I mean, he was, oh man, some of the plays that he made, that one he escaped and threw that strike to that touchdown. In the back of the end zone?

What? That was nice. And then he found Marvin Harrison Jr. on an escape, rolled into his left, got it up over the top, boom. I mean, he played for not, and that's the thing with Kyler, you see it. You see the guy like, he could do it. And then sometimes you're like, Kyler, what are you doing?

Boy, I like Kyler, especially when he run the ball. He look like a little bad little kid, like a bad little kid running away from you. Yeah. And he takes like 700, 700 steps in 20 yards. I mean, it's like, but he'd be booking it. Yeah. He'd be out of there now. Yeah, I mean, I mean, a phenomenal. I mean, think about it. The guy was the number one overall pick in football.

He was the number eight pick in the MLB draft. Do you know, they say the hardest sport, I've talked to guys that played both, Bo, Brian Jordan, Tyne, played both. John, John got drafted the second round by the Yankees. Say the hardest of the two sports is baseball. Yeah, well, this guy with number one overall in football and number eight in the MLB draft.

Do you know how immensely talented you have to be to be able to do that? And he won three straight state titles in the state of Texas in the biggest division, and it didn't lose a game. I think he lost either one game or he lost no games. Do you understand in the state of Texas, in the biggest division? Yeah. Real deal, Texas football is different, but man, you see, they're building 50, 40 and 50 million dollar stadium and high school,

high school. High school. They got weight facilities that rival colleges. Where all that money coming from out there, man? Hell of you and I know. Chad, where all that money coming from, man, for the high schools in Texas? Hey. Coming from somewhere. Oh yeah.

I guess, hey, they'd like, hey, I take my... Nah, ain't no place for somebody to take time to get adjusted. Bro, they pay you 400 million dollars to hit 250. What other sport that you can fail seven times out of 10 and make a half a bill? What sport? Tell me the sport? Boy

But the Cardinals bounced back and they laid a smack down on the Rams 41 to 10 It was over in the first half the score was 24 to, then all of a sudden it was like 41 to, 341 to 10. The Rams, what did they go from here, Ocho? Matthew Stafford, 19 to 27, 216, sacked five times. They could not run the football. Blake Corum, eight for 28. Kyron Williams, 12 for 25.

And, if I'm not mistaken, Cooper Cupp got injured. So now Pooka Nakua and- Damn. Two, where did they go? I don't, man, listen, it's only week two. It's definitely too early to hit the panic button, but you would expect the Rams being who they are to be the meet the Cardinals, but it's a new year.

It's a new year. The Cardinals on who they were last year and they prove a point today on why. But the Rams got an issue and it's defensively because remember last week the lions ran it down the effing throats and guess what? The Cardinals came back and say, we're going to do you one better. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's back to back weeks. Well, they got they got that boy in the middle now.

Well, he ain't coming back. He ain't coming back. He might. You never know. No, he ain't coming back. He's like, like, no, he's he don't have the desire. Cause when you that you're competing against yourself, your younger self, right? They're not comparing Aaron Donald to any current player.

Aaron Donald got compared to him. Younger self Tom Brady got compared to him, his younger self, Peyton greats get compared to the younger selves, right? They don't get compared to him, his younger self, Peyton, great. Get compared to the younger selves. Right. They don't get compared to the players. Oh, oh, Tom Brady's playing like this guy. No, Tom measuring stick was a younger Tom. Aaron Donald measuring stick is a younger Aaron Donald.

And he said. The fire to get up and jump out of bed and go train and be that guy that I need to be and that everybody's seen me to be for a decade. I ain't got it. Yeah. Should it happen? And not to steal and not to take money. I mean, think about it, Ochoa, cause he could have came back, but he's like, nah, I got

a standard. Right. Three defensive players a year, defensive rookie of the year, eight time first team all pro. Only LT can rival that. That's, I mean, when you talk about defense, he and LT, I mean, the three defensive players of the year, the defensive rookie of the year,

the eight first team all pro in a decade. The only difference LT got a league MVP. I don't think we'll ever see that again. I don't want to say never. I hate saying never and always, but the likelihood of a defensive player winning MVP, not defensive player of the year Ocho, he was the MVP of the entire league. Yeah, that's crazy. That would be a difficult feat for anybody defensively to get. What are you going to have, 30 sacks?

You going to have 20 picks? Something, something like that. Well, I mean, well, I mean, anything possible, a kicker would in the 19, in a strike shortened season in 1982. What you looking for? I'm looking at the chat. Oh, but, uh, yeah, the Rams, the Ram, they, uh, things getting, and you know, you lose Pooka who didn't play Cooper got Nick.

So it's going to be very interesting. You're going to have to run the football, but at the end of the day, Ocho, you got to stop. You got to, you got to be able to stop the run. If you can't stop the run, it's the day, Ocho, you gotta be able to stop the run. If you can't stop the run, it's hard to win in the NFL if you can't stop the run. Not only you have to stop the run, you gotta be able to run as well. Because play action and being able to run the ball

opens up the passing game. Yeah. I hope Puka's coming back next week. I'm not sure what the extent. Nah, Puka on the hour. Wait, oh, he not, wait. I thought it was just a hamstring. No, Pooka?

Yeah. Nah, he got an ankle. He got a knee or something. Nah, he on our. Yeah, he on our. He ain't coming back next week. What was the extent of Cooper Cupp's injury? They didn't give an update, but he left.

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