Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Celtics win Game 2, Caitlin Clark gets snubbed

Episode Date: June 10, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson react to the Boston Celtics winning Game 2 of the NBA Finals vs. the Dallas Mavericks despite an elite effort from Luka Doncic. Later, they discuss Caitlin ...Clark getting left off of the Team USA women's basketball roster and much more!03:41 - Show Starts09:55 - Celtics beat Mavs go up 2-018:29 - Caitlin Clark didnt make USA Team33:27 - James Harden Reacts to GF Catching bouquet49:24 - Packers Not having a No 1 receiver53:22 - CBS Ranks New QB-WR Duos58:52 - David Njoku Ken Dorsey’s offense is Juicy(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:05:22 we're going to be in Houston, Texas. And then that following Friday, we're going to be in Houston, Texas. And then that following Friday, we're going to be in Dallas on August 30th. So I'll repeat again. We start out in Atlanta on August 22nd. We roll into Houston on the 25th, and then from Houston to Dallas on the 30th.
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Starting point is 00:06:54 Well we got a sponsor man That's what I'm talking about Hey I'm a little under the weather So I can't turn up like I want to Let's go You be good on the 22nd. You got two months to get healed up. Yeah, I'm going to be okay by then.
Starting point is 00:07:12 By then, I'm going to be okay. Ollie Pop, thank you. Thank you guys for really making this possible. Ocho and I are so appreciative of this opportunity that you've given us to allow us to go on the road and get an opportunity to get out and see some of our fans in person. Atlanta on the 22nd, Houston on the 25th,
Starting point is 00:07:30 Dallas on the 30th. So thank you, Ollipop, for making this possible. Ocho and I are extremely, extremely excited and extremely, extremely thankful that you have given us this opportunity. Boy, I just paid attention. I'm a little off the record right now,
Starting point is 00:07:45 so I just paid attention to the dates. The dates is back-to-back, so we're going from state to state to state. So that's three in a row. It's like we traveling, like we rock stars. Yeah, like we rock stars. You know what kind of money that take to go from city to city like that? Yeah. You get buildings and you get
Starting point is 00:08:01 equipment and move people. Hotel and accommodation and flights and things of move people. Yeah. You know, hotel and accommodation and flights and things of that nature. Absolutely. Yeah. And so we thank Alipop for making this possible. Yeah, we're doing it big. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, people want to see us, Ocho. You know, they want to see us.
Starting point is 00:08:17 That's a good thing. That's a good thing. Now, I have a question for you. What happens when people start complaining about the cities that we haven't been to? What do we tell them? I mean, eventually, we're going to try to hit as many cities as we can, but what we did... Ocho, everything is based on data. Everything is based on data. And so the data says, okay,
Starting point is 00:08:34 probably should start here, start here, but yes, we're going to hit New York. Yes, we're going to hit Philly. Yes, we're going to hit Florida. Yes, we're going to hit Charlotte. Yes, we're going to hit Detroit. Absolutely. We're going to... In the fall, we're going to hit Charlotte. Yes, we're going to hit Detroit. Absolutely. We're going to, in the fall, we're going to go on the road. Probably not
Starting point is 00:08:49 back-to-back like we're doing now because we have three games. We're going to have Sunday, Monday, maybe pick up another game, got Thursday. Probably might even do something Saturday. So we're going to kind of be limited on how often we can go out and where we go. So we're going to try to be very on how often we can go out and where we go. So we're going to
Starting point is 00:09:06 try to be very, very strategic, Ocho, and where we go. Because eventually, yeah, we do. We want all of our fans to get an opportunity to meet us, to come out and to show their support. And we want to try to give the fans as big an opportunity as we possibly can to make sure they
Starting point is 00:09:22 get an opportunity to see us. Because we understand that our fans are not just located in three states that we're starting at, the three cities that we're starting at, but eventually we're absolutely going to come to New York and we're going to hit Philly and Chicago and Charlotte, Michigan. Absolutely, we're going to Detroit. And so probably by the year's end, we'll probably hit,
Starting point is 00:09:46 do about 10, 10 or 11. I like that. I like the way that sounds. I like the way that sounds. Yeah. So, thank you guys.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And again, thank you, Oli Pop, for making that happen. Celtics beat the Mavs, take a 2-0 lead. Drew Holiday came up big,
Starting point is 00:10:01 double digits. He had a double-double. Let me see what he had right here. And that's what makes them so hard to beat ocho is because even when your big guns jt and jb doesn't go off you get great contributions from holiday you get a great contribution from derrick white uh holiday was 11 or 14 204 he had 11 rebounds so he's 26 and 11. Derek White was 6 of 15, 4 of 10. He had 18.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Jalen Brown was 50% again from the floor. 8 of 15, 21 points. Excuse me. JT, 18, another double-double. Almost got a triple-double. 18 points, 12 assists, 9 rebounds, 45 minutes, 6 of 22, 1 of 7 for 3.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Almost a triple-d triple double but even when he's not shooting the ball well because you have a holiday because you have a derrick white because you have and see that's the thing that because luca if luca if kairi can't come along with luca this is going to be a short series exactly that's exactly what we that's exactly what we saw tonight obviously kairi tried to get herself going putting the on the floor, trying to get that mid-range shot going, and he just wouldn't fall tonight. So I got kind of upset and got frustrated a little bit in the third and even second quarter because as Luka was playing and no one else was being able to score,
Starting point is 00:11:18 P.J. Washington would give you points here and there, but there was nobody that was as consistent as Drew Holiday was being, as Derek White was being for the Celtics when Jason Tatum was shooting bad, then Luka's trying to do everything on his own. He's trying to do everything on his own, and he turned the ball over. He turned the ball over way, way too many times.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And I think, Harry, I'm assuming playing at home, it might be a little better. He has to get himself going early. I'm not sure if the crowd really affected him. I doubt it being as experienced as he is. I don't think the crowd really affected his play or anything, but they made every shot for him very difficult.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Even the open shots, he just happened to miss. Of course, you're going to have games like this. You're going to have games where you miss shots, but they can go down into a 3-0 hole and expect to come back and win this series. No. Kyrie has to play better. He knows he has to play better. He's the guy that's been here, done that before.
Starting point is 00:12:13 He's a big shot taker, a big shot maker, played in the biggest of games. He's been in NBA finals. So he knows he's been to three NBA finals. Got hurt in the first overtime of the one in 2015, and then came back in games in game seven, played extremely, extremely well throughout the entire series. And the second one that came back from 3-1, Ocho, he played tremendous in game five, had 41 points to go along with LeBron, had 41 and 16.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And then we know the shot that he hit, took, and he made in game seven. And if you go back and look at even though they lost 4-1 in 2017, Kyrie averaged 27 points. So we know he's capable of playing better than what he played. Luka is like, well, damn, I got to try some of everything. But the simple fact, nobody's coming along with it. He had a triple-double. He gave you 32, 11,-11 on plus 50% shooting.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I don't know what you're – yeah, the turnovers are high, but that's because he's trying to create and trying to do – trying to make it so easy for everyone else. Kyrie – look, everybody else is Kyrie. Kyrie has to be better than what he's been the first two games. If he can't be any better than what he showed in game one and two, in game three, they're getting swept. I mean, there's no other way around it.
Starting point is 00:13:35 I like Gil recommended like, hey, when Jason Tatum was on Daniel Gafford, down in the block, if you saw the third quarter, they gave him three, and he got three quick bats, he posted them up, boom. But this is all about Kyrie Kyrie has to be better because Boston is so balanced because if you show what JT struggling he's struggling again shooting the ball yeah he didn't rebound yeah he he assists but that just goes to show you the level of players that he has with him because you look at his assist total he had nine Even though he's not shooting the ball well, six of 22. I mean, that's
Starting point is 00:14:09 probably less than 30%. I have the math off the top of my head, but you got JB gave you 21. You got Derek White gave you 18. Holiday gave you a double double. And Przingis comes in off the bench, boom. He gave you a quick double figure in points.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yeah. They're so balanced, so unless Luka and unless Kyrie can come along with Luka and do what they did against Minnesota, Ocho, where they gave you 60, 70 points between the two of them, they're going to get swept, Ocho. And then we're going to need more than
Starting point is 00:14:42 just that two-headed monster, too. Now we need PJ Washington to come along too we need PJ to come along and contribute as well yeah PJ did okay tonight what do you have he has 17 points I can live with that I can live with that
Starting point is 00:14:57 Derrick Jones gave you 11 Daniel Gafford gave you 13 Kyrie was 16 but 7 of 18 if I'm not mistaken I think he was 6 Daniel Gafford gave you 13. Kyrie was 16. But what? 7 of 18. If I'm not mistaken, I think he was 6 of 18 the other night. That's not going to get it, though, Joe. 13 of 38, 13 of 36.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That's not going to get it. Luka was 12 of 21, 4 of 9, 4 of 8 from the free throw line. Eight big turnovers. And a lot of times, Dallas turned those turnovers into points. So you can't turn the ball over when you're struggling shooting the basketball when points are at a premium and they seem to be so hard to come by. It's like Luka, the shots
Starting point is 00:15:34 that Luka's making, only Luka can make those shots. There are not a whole lot of other guys in the NBA. The shots that he's making, there are not a whole lot of other guys that can make those shots. And it's so difficult. There are no easy baskets. There are no layups.
Starting point is 00:15:50 There are none of that. Boston getting runouts. They're getting dump-offs at the rim. It's just a struggle. Everything is a grind for the Mavs. But they're going to have to find a way to go home, to get some home cooking, sleep in your bed. Everybody's going to pat you on the back and say, hey, we got this.
Starting point is 00:16:06 We've been down this road before. But this is a different animal. Boston is a different animal because they go five deep. They got five guys that on a given night can give you 20 at the drop of a hat. And now you got Przingis coming off the bench. And he's kind of rounding himself back into shape. They got new work cut out for him. But this falls on Kyrie. Kyrie has not been good in this series. he knows he hasn't been good in this series and in order for them to stay alive in this
Starting point is 00:16:29 series he's gonna have to be better in game three than he was in the first two yeah I'm hoping I'm hoping so I'm hoping so he comes out obviously he has experience he knows what he has to do uh to play in these series he's been here before he has experience so hopefully he comes back and um if anything I would like I would like Luca you know, run the offense through Kyrie just to get him going. Just to get him going early in the game. Get that rhythm going. Get that confidence flowing. And then allow the game to come to you.
Starting point is 00:16:58 And I think they'll be better off. Well, he's going to have to be better. But the Boston Celtics do what they're supposed to do. They hold serve at home. They go up 2-0 with a 105-98 victory over the Dallas Mavericks. Kyrie is averaging, Holiday is averaging 19 points. Derek White is averaging 16 points. Kyrie is averaging 14 points.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So, Luka is leading the NBA, leading the finals in scoring at 31 points a game. And then you got 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. I think the next 5 belong to the Celtics. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:39 No, you can't have one guy that high and then all the rest of the guys and all the rest of them, because think about it you got two guys that's already scoring, what, 10 more points than what Luka's averaging and then, you know, you got Holiday averaging 19, Derek White averaging 16,
Starting point is 00:17:55 Przingis that's not good enough, they know they have to be better Kyrie knows he has to be better, they have to do a better job of limiting the second chance opportunity that the... What's the rebounding total? 41. Well, rebounding's not that bad.
Starting point is 00:18:17 43 to... 41. Not that bad. So it's not that big a discrepancy. But turnovers got a limit to turnovers 41, not that bad. So it's not that big a discrepancy. But turnover's got to limit your turnovers, and Kyrie just has to be better. Ocho, Kaitlyn Clark
Starting point is 00:18:32 did not make the women's Olympic team, the women's Olympic team, heading to Paris. The 2024 Paris women's basketball roster, no surprises, Asia Wilson, Breonna Stewart, the two best players in the WNBA guards you have Sabrina
Starting point is 00:18:47 Nescu and Kelsey Plum and then you have Brittany Griner Jewel Lloyd she was on the winning team at the All-Star game DT Donna Taurasi Chelsea Gray Melfisa Collier Alyssa Thomas Jackie Young
Starting point is 00:19:03 and Kalil Cooper. No, no, no, Kaitlyn Clark. Yeah. I mean, rightfully so. I mean, something like that you want to earn. You know, coming in as a rookie, you haven't done anything at this level yet to really earn your spot on the team. So I think she understands. I'm not sure what her comments were after, but, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:22 coming in as a rookie in any sport, you want to earn your right to be in a position to be able to represent your country. So I think she understands that. There's really no ill will because everything would be based off what she did in college, and that has nothing to do once you make it to WNBA. Your resume, you have to complete your resume there or at least do a little something in WNBA first before you represent us as a country. I would think so. I doubt she's upset. It gives her something to strive for. Knowing the competitor that she is, it gives her something to strive for.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Was Magic Johnson playing in the NBA when he made the Olympic team? Or did he make it based on what he had done? I'm just asking. I'm just asking you. It's not a trick question. Yeah, based on what he had done. So what's the problem?
Starting point is 00:20:14 You say if he had made the Olympic team, it would have been based on what she had done. Yeah, in college. Okay. So I have a question. Sure. Who are you going to take off that list and put Caitlyn Clark in?
Starting point is 00:20:24 Who are you going to take off this list on take off that list and put Caitlyn Clark in? Who are you going to take off this list on what we have going and put Caitlyn Clark in? Chelsea Gray has not played all year. She hasn't played in a WNBA game yet. You do realize that, right? So you're taking... I'm saying she has not played.
Starting point is 00:20:44 The objective is, is that are we on a big stage right how many biggest let me ask you the biggest the biggest thing let me ask you a question of all the I guarantee you if you put Kaitlyn Clark on that team she just sold more jerseys than all of these women combined what you want to bet I mean I I understand that she was so much I think she would I think that that you can't argue think that you can't argue that fact. You can't argue that fact. But again, these are women that have put in the work and the resume to be qualified to go over to. They put Chris DeLayton on the team.
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Starting point is 00:24:20 That one shot. In college? Okay. Yeah. You got the biggest stage in the world. This is the reason why they took Magic. This is the reason why they said, if we could only have one player,
Starting point is 00:24:33 we needed to be Jordan. Most popular. Yes, sir. Name a more popular woman basketball player right now than Kaitlyn Clark. I'm not saying better, because clearly, there are many women
Starting point is 00:24:45 better than she is, but name me one more popular. Do you know Saturday night, they sold so many tickets to the Washington Mystics game, they had to move the game to the NBA arena, Ocho? Do you know they did that for the Sparks game, right, Ocho?
Starting point is 00:25:02 Yes, sir. So I'm just saying if you want, I'm trying, look, if you want to market it, if you want to sell advertisers and sponsors, that's what I'm trying to get. Now you can make it like, oh, we want the best players, we want the best players. Yeah, I think that's the route that they went. The women
Starting point is 00:25:18 that have been doing it, the women that have put the work in at this level, at the highest level, and been consistent year in and year out. And I think that's why the team that they have assembled is what it is. I think Diana Taurasi is the legacy pick. Yes, sir. You think so? Let me ask you a question. Let's just say for the sake of argument,
Starting point is 00:25:35 I took Diana Taurasi off this team and I put Kaitlyn Clark. Do you think they lose the gold? No. If I take Jackie Young off and put Kaitlyn Clark on that team, you think they lose the gold? No. If I take Jackie Young off and put Kaitlyn Clark on that team, you think they lose the gold? No, sir. I mean, because when you look at it, you got one, two, three, four.
Starting point is 00:25:54 You got four Aces players. Right. What about Enrique Agumbenwale? You mean to tell me that like, everybody on this team better than she is? Oh, no, no.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Hold on, let me get my glasses. You know, I can see. Maybe I need to get my six-handed glasses. You mean to tell me everybody that made this team better than Ayo? No.
Starting point is 00:26:21 She the real deal, boy. So I wonder, I wonder how does it go as far as those who are picked to represent the USA? How does the picking go? I don't know. I don't really know how it goes. I'm just saying,
Starting point is 00:26:36 you're trying to market the game. You're trying to grow. The only way the game's going to grow is by advertisers and sponsors pumping more money into it, then the salaries will increase. You get other women, you get women outside like,
Starting point is 00:26:51 okay, yeah, I want to do this. But you got to show like a lot of times, you put the most popular players. Because I'm trying to grow the game. That's why I met, think about it,
Starting point is 00:27:06 Larry Bird played like two minutes a game, three minutes a game, mojo. His back was gone. He was shot. But then he was so popular. Popularity.
Starting point is 00:27:17 It is what it is. Sometimes, think about, think about who sell the records. Sometimes it's not the best singers. Most popular.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Right. So you think Katelyn Clark should have been on just from a marketing standpoint? Just from a marketing standpoint. From no other reason. I think a lot of young ladies would have been upset. Okay. Let me ask you a question. Y'all want more? Let me ask you a question. Y'all want more money or not?
Starting point is 00:27:48 Yeah, I understand what you're saying. Are y'all okay with like five or six women making $200,000 and then everybody else making $75,000 or $100,000? Or y'all trying to get to that half a mil? Or y'all trying to have women that make a million dollars a year and then the lower side standard rookies can make
Starting point is 00:28:05 $100,000, $150,000. Are y'all okay with this? Because I just need to know what you really want. Yeah. You know, the bag is the goal at the end of the day. The bag is always the goal at the end of the day. And I think all these women are phenomenal. I really do.
Starting point is 00:28:21 But in a situation where you're just picking, it's not like the, it's not like track and field where you got to be one of the top three. And then you got to have the qualifying standard. So whatever the standard is for the event in which you're competing in, you need to finish top three and then have the Olympic standard. Okay.
Starting point is 00:28:41 That's it. That's easy. Oh, Joe, that's an easy choice. You can't be like, oh, we know he's a former world record holder, but he didn't make the team.
Starting point is 00:28:50 Let's put him on there so he can defend it. No, that's not how it works. You're just picking. That's tough. It is. I'm curious to know how the picking goes. How the players are chosen. Look at the man they're taking.
Starting point is 00:29:20 All the top New Jersey sales. Right. Hey. all the top New Jersey sales right hey oh Joe we don't look having been where I am now you know a lot of times like I said I didn't understand
Starting point is 00:29:40 because I view myself as talent but now trying to get sponsors trying to get advertisers, trying to get advertisers. I know what they're looking for. The Mystics had a million dollar gate. The Liberty
Starting point is 00:29:56 had a two million dollar gate. What's the common denominator, Kaitlyn Clark? When the games had moved to NBA arenas, what's the common denominator? When Kaitlyn Clark? When the games had moved to NBA arenas, what's the common denominator? When Kaitlyn Clark plays, the average attendance is over 17,000.
Starting point is 00:30:12 When she doesn't play in the game, the attendance is 7,000. Now you tell me the common denominator, 10,000. I don't care if they're just paying $20 a ticket. Right. Added revenue, right?
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yes, sir. Imagine how many Olympic 22 jerseys, whatever number she gave them. I don't even know how they picked the numbers. I mean, somebody like Kobe, I think Kobe was nine, LeBron was six. I don't know how they even picked the numbers. But can you imagine how many jerseys they would have sold Ocho?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Yeah. Oh, my goodness. They're going to sell some good ones now. They're going to sell some Aja Wilsons. They're going to sell heavy. They're going to win the— So, points per game. Kaitlyn Clark is 13th in the league.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Diana Taurasi is 15th in the league. Assistant league, Kaitlyn Clark is 4th. Diana Taurasi is 79th. In rebounding, Kaitlyn Clark is 27th. Diana Taurasi is 35th. In blocks, Kaitlyn Clark is 18th. Diana Taurasi is 90th. In steals, Kaitlyn Clark is 17th Donald Taurasi is 90. In steals, Kaitlyn Clark is 17.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Donald Taurasi is 65. Resume, huh? That's not what you just told me. You couldn't play Kaitlyn. Hold on. You told me earlier you couldn't play Kaitlyn Clark on what she had done. You just told me that. You just told me. When we started chatting, did Ocho tell me we couldn't put Kaitlyn Clark on what she had done. You just told me that. You just told me.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Chat, did Ocho tell me we couldn't put Kaitlyn Clark on that team based on what she had done in college, but yet we're putting somebody on this team based on what? What she's done over a span of her
Starting point is 00:32:01 WNBA career. No, no, no. This is not a lifetime. You don't get a Olympic key for a lifetime achievement. You don't get a body of work that she's put in to be able to be rewarded. This is not a legacy pick. This is not a lifetime achievement. I thought we were sending our best players. That's what you told me.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Ocho Cinco told me we're sending our best players. Not based on what you had done, what you told me Ocho Cinco told me we're sending our best players not based on what you had done what you're doing Caitlin Clark tops in all of those I'm just asking I think we're gonna be fine but I understand where you're coming from I understand where you're coming from from a marketing and branding standpoint as far as growing the game and having the the most popular player being there. But listen, we're going to see her in four more years. Four more years, she'll still be just as popular, maybe even bigger, you know, by that time.
Starting point is 00:32:58 And the U.S. has a history of also including the number one pick in the WNBA. And in 2004, Dana Taurasi was on the team. And in 2008, Candace Parker was on the team. In 2016, Brianna Stewart was on the team. Only this year.
Starting point is 00:33:19 And what happened this year? Caitlin Clark isn't on the team. They also did that for NECA, a boomer. Okay. She wasn't on the team. They also did that for Nneka Abumake. She wasn't on the team. Number one pick. So this notion that they don't just take any... Oh, they did it. We got three.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It's documented. Three times. They've taken the number one pick with no proud WNBA experience. Right. Hmm. Right. Diamonds Rossi resume speaks for itself.
Starting point is 00:33:58 She's one of the historically great women's player in the history of college and the WNBA. Right. But in every statistical category based on this year, Kaitlin Clark has had a better season. Hey, I got it. Listen, I throw my hands up. Now, you know, I don't understand how it goes. Obviously, you want the best players. They've assembled.
Starting point is 00:34:31 Caitlin Clark is a better player currently right now than DeAndre Rossi. I'm not saying she's going to ever be the player that DT was. Right. I mean, she's an all-time leading scorer. She's a league MVP. She's a three-time champion. DT's resume speaks for itself. Caitlin Clark might not ever reach that number. But if're talking about right now that goes to say James Harden reacts to a girlfriend catching the bouquet
Starting point is 00:34:52 at a wedding let's take out the video Ocho oh James you gotta knock it down oh you gotta knock that out of hand Well she went on the floor to get that thing Ocho You gotta knock that out of hand That's gotta be a loose ball Hey Listen that's how you know she meant business too Look she went on the floor to get that
Starting point is 00:35:16 Look look look Oh she went low Hey James you gotta hold her You gotta box out James You gotta box out That's a free throw, Mocho. You got to make sure she don't get that. You got to do something.
Starting point is 00:35:29 You got to do something. Hey, look at Jay's face now. He's like, come on, man. Oh, no. You know what that means. He's like, oh, throw that back over your head. So, hey, whoever catch the fly, can they throw it back over their head and hope somebody else catches it?
Starting point is 00:35:49 Hey, that's funny. That's funny. Like, you know, depending on who it is, depending on who catches the bouquet, you know, if you really were, if there was any type of seriousness
Starting point is 00:35:58 or involvement with that certain individual, there would be no issues. You know that, right? What do you mean? There would be no issues. I mean, there would be no need, there would be no issues. You know that, right? What do you mean? There would be no issues. I mean, there would be no need
Starting point is 00:36:07 to look crazy or to get eyes like that because you know what? You know, this is somebody that I would marry. This is, you know what?
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'm glad, you know what, I'm glad you caught it. Matter of fact, I'm going to celebrate because you did. But hey, the game is a game.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Nah, man, look, bro. Nah. We ain't going. Wherever they throw it, we're going to be over in the corner by the bar. Oh, no. Listen, when you come to the wedding, I'm going to throw it directly at you.
Starting point is 00:36:42 No, sir. So whoever your plus one is, you know what that means. Unless they mosh me? Unless they jump up like Randy Moss and catch it over my head? Right. It ain't going to make it, though, Joe.
Starting point is 00:36:54 You going to block them out? You going to post them out? Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. You ain't catching that. Ah, yeah. Hey, she,
Starting point is 00:37:06 Rell just say, she gonna make sure you ain't in the way because you gonna throw the bouquet goals to the women so you won't be there. Oh, I'm gonna be there. Hey, she gonna be in the,
Starting point is 00:37:17 as a matter of fact, when you throw it, Rell, she gonna be in the bathroom anyway. So, I don't know, I don't know what to tell y'all. Hey, that's funny. I saw some of the clips of that wedding. That was Rayjean Rondo's wedding, huh? Boy, that thing was lit, boy.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah, yeah. I saw some of the clips and the videos. That thing was nice. It was real nice. Yeah. Yeah, congratulations to Rayjean and his wife, man. That's a beautiful thing. Beautiful thing. Yeah, man. You know, his wife, man That's a beautiful thing Beautiful thing
Starting point is 00:37:45 Yeah, man, you know, hey I'll be like Bernie Mac, I'm gonna jump the broom So if I marry the wrong woman, I just jump back across, it's over We ain't gotta do all that stuff Untie this, untie that Right Nah You wanna keep it simple?
Starting point is 00:38:03 Yeah So, I mean, so you don't want like a big wedding and all that? Okay, you want to keep it simple. I mean, most of the time, I mean, studies say the bigger the wedding, the less chance it lasts. Okay, okay, okay. The simple wedding. Think about your grandmother and your grandfather. Made them wait the last 40, 50, 60 years.
Starting point is 00:38:23 Yeah, but they also ain't had no money back then either. You know, they ain't had no money back then either, so it was easier for things to land because there wasn't no options. Where you going? They ain't had nowhere to go. I mean, see, a lot of times they be putting on the wedding like, ooh, look how big my wedding. And my bridesmaid had custom gowns.
Starting point is 00:38:40 And my best man had custom suits. Right, right, right, right. It's like these gender reveals. Come on, it's a boy or a girl. If it ain't no apple on the stem, it's a girl. That's all I'm saying, Ochoa. If it ain't no apple on the stem, it's a girl. All this other stuff y'all be talking about,
Starting point is 00:38:55 oh, y'all got wrestling matches. They done got jets flying over. Let not blue and pink. Come on, you people. Listen, they're going overboard with it, with gender reveals you people. Yeah. Damn. Listen, they're going overboard with it, with gender reveals,
Starting point is 00:39:09 obviously with weddings. I think in that case, I think women now in a sense have become obsessed with the idea of marriage and not what marriage actually is. They are obsessed with the aesthetics that it comes with. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:39:25 It's, oh my God, look what we had on. You know, just not what it really entails. That's what the women want. Not what it really entails. You know that's how women get dressed. Women get dressed. They're not trying to please you. Because men, for the most part, they're going to hit, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You know how men are. Yeah. Women dressing for other women. Yeah, I saw that beat looking at me. I know I was looking good. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's how women are, man.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Women do things for other women because they know, for the most part, a guy, his standards. Oh, I got to say, bro, you ain't can stop it. We all done had a couple of them that you know, like, I thought you had standards. Yeah. Standards what? So, I'm just saying, I don't know, women,
Starting point is 00:40:19 they do a lot of, they do 99% of the stuff. Because the first thing they do, they get a ring, what are they going to do? Show their girls. They on IG, what are they doing on IG? Letting that thing show. Yeah. Are you happy?
Starting point is 00:40:42 Hey, that's a great question. You heard what you just said? That's a great question You heard what you just said? That's a great question That I think That many don't even tell the truth about Are you really happy? Or are you just satisfied With the situation you're in?
Starting point is 00:40:58 Are you really, really Authentically happy Or are you just satisfied With the situation that you're in. The opportunity. The convenience of it. I should have been a therapist.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Let me ask you a question. How many times you saw a girl with a Louis bag, with a Gucci bag, or a Birkin bag and said, oh, I got to have her. I just saw a girl with a sundress and a duty and burp., see I need to get in there it ain't no bag that I'm looking at no, no, at all
Starting point is 00:41:30 talk to me now, so you getting that Louis Vuitton that Dunian Burke, that Birkin a YSL Chanel, we already know that's for women, cause God you come out there with a Dunian Burke you come out there with a Tory Burch it don't even matter.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Not for a guy. No, not at all. He ain't looking at no bag. And obviously, 98% of the time, if you are daunting some of those items as well, it's normally being bought from a guy as well. That goes hand in hand. That goes hand in hand.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Oh, that's so nice whatever you got on better wring it upside my bed I don't care what it is whoever Tom Ford, Gucci LV, whoever whoever
Starting point is 00:42:20 make design dresses, Vera Wang yeah don't y'all let guys oh my guys whoever make design dresses, Vera Wang. Yeah. Don't y'all let guys, oh, my guys, oh, guys, guys. No, that's for the other women. Y'all trying to show them up and let y'all know y'all one step ahead. Oh, I got it like that or my man got
Starting point is 00:42:37 it like that. Because the guys, they don't even really care. Because what half the guys say, I don't care nothing about no lingerie. But they buy it. Yeah, so don't. So we just got different. Like I said, to each his own.
Starting point is 00:42:53 That's what makes y'all feel good. Or I make me feel good. You don't put it on when you're around the house. How many times you think the woman dress up with her handbag and walk around the house? Because he said it make them feel good. How many times they do that
Starting point is 00:43:05 when they buy their home alone? When they home alone, don't you? How many women you think put on their very best? If they got a Birkin, got to put that Birkin or that Chanel,
Starting point is 00:43:14 that YSL, whatever the case, would design a bag. Right, right. How many of them you think put that on they top their heels? Whatever heels you wear,
Starting point is 00:43:22 high-end fat heels. Mm-hmm. Get dressed and walk around in front of the mirror do that a couple of times and then take it off not one but I thought you said
Starting point is 00:43:32 you did that for yourself hmm they don't wait what if they are influencers I think influencers do that don't they what if they are influencers I think influencers do that don't they no influencers take pictures of outfits and tag each brand
Starting point is 00:43:52 and take a picture and then take it off I get that okay but they ain't taking no pictures but see that's not you don't feel good about yourself you doing that for a check I got no problem with that I got no problem with that I mean hey we have to get some kind of we got to get some kind of
Starting point is 00:44:11 compensation i mean you and i ain't doing this but you know like i said hey we do it for free but i need all the other podcasters to do it for free also hey there has to be some level of compensation so if you're doing it as an, if you have this deal from some fashion house or whatever the case may be, ain't got no problem. Make your brand. Hell yeah. And make sure you got a good camera.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Got to take the pictures because you know you want the same quality. Right. But, nah. I'm going to try that then. Oh, you want to be an influence? Yeah, because I'm like,
Starting point is 00:44:44 when it comes to fashion it's not it's not really me that ain't my thing it's never really been my thing you know my little cousin rocky you know he put that shit on but i'm just thinking like if i was like tap into into the fashion world i would do okay for myself if i can get up out of these damn dickies well these target clothes you know every so often it be hard, Ocho, because that's how people see you. Let me ask you a question. When Tiger Woods was advertising Buick, did you believe Tiger Woods drove a Buick?
Starting point is 00:45:14 Probably not. See? See? You believe Michael Jordan drank Grady where he did? Yeah. You see? Needs to be believable. You believe Michael Jordan drank Grady where he didn't. Yeah. You see?
Starting point is 00:45:27 It needs to be believable. Oh, I can see him doing that. Man, hold on. How much Tiger worth? A billion? I don't know if I can see him drive. I don't know if I can see him driving that. A Buick?
Starting point is 00:45:41 Nah. Well, when it comes to most billionaires, you know, you never know. But see, you're talking about the old guys, the Warren Buffetts, or, you know, he drive a Cadillac. Yeah. Right. I mean, he lives in the very same house that he's been living in since
Starting point is 00:45:57 1965. Right. Just did some remodeling, milkshaking hamburgers. There are certain guys, yes. But he might drive some remodeling milkshaking hamburgers. There are certain guys, yes. But he might drive a Buick, but he'd fly on a 650 Gulfstream or a business Boeing jet.
Starting point is 00:46:14 And he got a 300 or a 400 foot yacht that cost him about 300 mil. So he's got to even that. Yeah. I might drive that, but I fly this. Or I cruise that. I mean, that's the thing, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:46:30 I mean, you got to find out, like, okay, what am I? How do people view me? Cigars. Okay. Bingo. You got your own. Okay. So let me ask you a question
Starting point is 00:46:46 do you post your cigar you smoking your cigar yeah of course of course okay well that's that's that's what you do right put photos up you do you get clever do tiktok videos hey you go and have somebody hey hey, get capture content. Right. So, so my influence and dream of being a fashion icon and model. I mean, it all depends on what you, if you're trying to, to, to, to, to model those, those pants that you wear. Sure. Cause they're believable. People believe you wear those.
Starting point is 00:47:22 They've seen you in those. I'm trying to be like Coleman Domingo. Did I say his name right? Yeah. Yeah. I'm going those. I'm trying to be like Coleman Domingo. Did I say his name right? Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to be like that. Okay. Like, on some real, like, dapper, like, okay, that's a different side of Ochoa I've never seen before. I said, yeah, I'm an influencer in that bitch. But
Starting point is 00:47:38 Yeah. How often, other than when you're going to a special occasion, are you dressed like that? Probably once a month. You see? Just be honest, once a month? But you have to understand
Starting point is 00:47:53 what you're trying to sell. Right. You don't smoke no cigars once a month. Oh, no. Two or three a day, bro. I'm not saying you need to go out two or three times a day, but you probably need to dress up a little more than once a month. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast,
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Starting point is 00:51:02 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Packers win their last offseason with a young, unproven group of wide receivers, but this group have proved they to be up to the task. Jaden Reed and Romeo Dobbs each caught eight touchdowns while combining for 123 catches. Christian Watson battled hamstring injury, but also posted five touchdowns when he was able to get on the field.
Starting point is 00:51:27 While all the players had bright moments, none of them established themselves as one of a kind, as a kind of number one wideout. Jordan Love shared last week what he thinks a good thing for the offense. I don't think you have to have a number one receiver. I think it works out well
Starting point is 00:51:42 when you can spread the ball around and you've got different guys making plays and you put them in different areas. I think it puts a lot more stress on the defense and can call, um, and the call that they get in. So I think in the long run, it helps us out not having a number one guy or a true number one guy. Do you agree?
Starting point is 00:51:58 I mean, it sounds cute, but for the lack of better terms of saying, Oh, we don't have a number one guy. But if you watch read play, if you watch Romeo Dodd play, if you watch goddamn Watson play when he is healthy and understanding what he can do once they get going, they got a little four by one track team at the receiving core. They have a little four by one track team at the receiving core. And I think it's because of their play and being almost close to being number one receivers is why they were so successful.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah. As good as Jordan Love is, I think he understands the quality and receivers that he has at his helm. So he's saying all the right things that he has to say. So no one gets that number one receiving nod for that, for that matter, but they are really good. They are very,
Starting point is 00:52:40 very, very good young receiving core. And the fact they were able to get all of them at the same time at such a young age is going to cause problems later on when it's time to get paid. Yeah, well, you know you can't keep everybody. They are really good. You can't keep everybody. I know, I know, but you don't understand.
Starting point is 00:52:56 Reed, Dobbs, and Watson are really good together, man. I'm talking about really good. They play off each other very well. The Steelers. They can't keep all them receivers. You got a Plexico guy, you let Plexico go? What's the guy from Miami that won Super Bowl, from Florida that won
Starting point is 00:53:11 Super Bowl MVP? Santonio Holmes? You can't keep everybody. Emmanuel Sanders? You can't keep, Ocho, you can't keep everybody. I'm going to want to get paid. How you going to have five guys? And you see the salaries, you see what his salaries are going for wire receivers.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Oh, yeah. Okay. All those guys, a lot of those guys are coming up on the third year. Yeah. They looking for payday though, Joe. Knock, knock. Exactly. So, yeah, it is Knock, knock. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, it is nice to have a number one. I think Kristen Watson, if he can stay healthy, man, that dude's special. Right. Because he can do it. Man, he got wheels for days. A real deal. Yeah, once he figured it out, you remember early in that first half, and then once that joker figured it out, whoo-wee! But they're good. He's right.
Starting point is 00:54:08 They got four guys that are one-ish. Yeah. It's funny. I was able to watch them practice against the Bengals. What do you call it? What do you call those practices? Oh, the scrimmages?
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah. You travel, you travel. So I was able to watch them last year against the Packers and see some of them young fellas up there. They call them joint practices. Yeah, the joint practices. Obviously it was against the Packers. I was like, oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. And then having to see what I saw
Starting point is 00:54:39 in the joint practice and see them put it on display in games throughout the season. Yeah, okay. Not number ones. Oh, no. Buddy, you got some number ones over there. I'm just not going to say.
Starting point is 00:54:49 I'm going to let you fly with what you're saying, brother Jordan Love. But no, you got some number ones over there. Oh, I forgot. Remember Pittsburgh had Mike Wallace?
Starting point is 00:54:58 Oh, Mike. Ooh, Mike was fast. Think about all the receivers that they done had right there close proximity, Ocho. Right. Yeah. So, it's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:55:06 They're not going to be able to keep all these guys. Right. They just not. You understand that? Hey, you try to get as much as you possibly can out of them while you have them, because guess what? Jordan Love going to want a quarter of a meal. Excuse me,
Starting point is 00:55:21 a quarter of a bill. Yeah, he going to get that regardless. You know if you start paying him, so how you gonna pay them receivers that's gonna be won $85-90 million guaranteed? And that's how we gonna know who the number one is when it's time to get paid. That's how we gonna know who the number one is, regardless
Starting point is 00:55:38 of what you may say. Oh, somebody over there, I mean, we don't know from the naked eye looking in, we don't know who the true number one is. But they know, the Packers organization knows, Jordan Love knows, the one who they can rely on come hell or high water, first down, second down, third down, situational plays. Who are we going to?
Starting point is 00:55:57 Who can we close our eyes to and say, you know what? We can count on him to win this play for us on his third and short. Man to man, we're going to him no matter what. That's your number one who it is i'm not sure because they all they all been phenomenal cbs sports ranks is 12 new quarterback wide receiver duos for the upcoming season number 12 bo nicks to courtland sutton number 11 daniel jones to malik neighbors number 10 rus Number 10, Russell Wilson to George Pickens. Number nine, Justin Houston, Ladd McConkie.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Number eight, Will Levis, Calvin Ridley. Number seven, Calvin Williams, Roma Dunze. Number six, Jane Daniels, Terry McLaurin. Number five, Josh Allen, Keon Coleman. Number four, J.J. McCarthy, Justin Jefferson. Number three, Kirk Cousins, Drake London. Number two, Kyla Mervin, Kyler Murray, Marvin Harrison Jr. And number one, C.J. Stroud, Stephon Diggs. You like the list?
Starting point is 00:56:54 Should somebody be up higher? Should somebody be lower? What you like? I like the list, but we have a problem. A small problem at number 12. It should be Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton. It should be Zach Wilson and Courtland Sutton because Zach Wilson is the starting quarterback for the Denver Broncos.
Starting point is 00:57:10 The Daniel Jones and Bleak Neighbors, I really like a lot. Russell Wilson and George Pickens, I know they're going to make hay. He's going to get me in that ball. Will Levis and Calvin Ridley should be a little lower, should definitely be a little lower because, obviously, I know Will Levis has a crazy arm and Calvin Ridley is a phenomenal route runner. So I would put them
Starting point is 00:57:33 almost at three damn near. Because of what he's done. Almost that low. Because you got Kirk Cousins and Drake London who haven't done anything together. None of these guys have done anything together Ocho
Starting point is 00:57:48 but I listen but we've seen what Calvin really has done with multiple quarterbacks so nothing going to change playing with a quarterback like this
Starting point is 00:57:56 with Will Levis who has a cannon of an arm you do realize like he played with the number one pick in the draft in Trevor Lawrence
Starting point is 00:58:04 and the number three pick in the draft and Trevor Lawrence and the number three pick in the draft and Matt Ryan and went crazy yeah so crazy I don't when I look at Will Levis I don't see the talent of a Trevor Lawrence and I don't see the is he don't think so huh you don't think so no no no no hey I like the Josh Allen Keon Coleman I do too I like No. No. No. No. I like the Josh Allen, Keon Coleman. I do too. I like that. I like that. I like it. I like that.
Starting point is 00:58:34 J.J. McCarthy and Justin Jefferson. I mean, I love J.J., but damn. You know what I'm surprised of? I'm surprised at seven that they went Caleb Williams and Roman Dunzay over Caleb and DJ Moore or Caleb and Keenan Allen. Yeah, I'm a little surprised by that. It's a good list.
Starting point is 00:58:56 It's a good list. The funny thing about it is we don't know how anything is going to turn out. We don't know how anything is going to turn out. It just looks good on paper, just looking at it. And you expect them to be phenomenal based on what they've done in the past, obviously coming from college. We know what Kirk Cousins does in the regular season, postseason not so much.
Starting point is 00:59:14 Kyler Murray, a healthy Kyler Murray, and Marvin Harrison Jr., they should put up numbers. They should put up numbers. There would be no reason for you to scramble around, running around for your life. Now you have, well, you've had him before, but now you have a good, solid number one that you can rely on. But you know what, Ochoa?
Starting point is 00:59:31 I think the thing with Kyler Murray, you can't treat him like a conventional quarterback because he's made us hate being unconventional. You can't just ask that man to throw from the pocket, Ochoa. Right, right. He won the Heisman trophy, got to the college football playoffs. He was,
Starting point is 00:59:48 I mean, his ability, what makes him unique is his ability to create outside the pocket and take off running. So to say that, you know, running around and, you know, throw from the pocket.
Starting point is 01:00:00 It's not him. No. Yep. That's it. That's up to the coordinator to understand understand your player strengths and to play to those strengths
Starting point is 01:00:09 yes that's absolutely that's absolutely his job but I like CJ Stratton he got his work cut out for him cause Tank Tank Dale and Collins Nico Collins
Starting point is 01:00:20 yeah and Houston oh no I think I think they're gonna be fine I told you I told you who they're gonna be they're gonna be I think they're going to be fine. I told you who they're going to be. They're going to be the 2012 Cardinals. Yeah. What did all those receivers have in 2012?
Starting point is 01:00:33 Yeah, I was like... Listen, I guarantee you, C.J. Stroud, Nico Collins, Tank Dale, and Stephon Diggs. A lot of people saying, oh, Diggs is not going to get as many targets, blah, blah, blah, whatever it may be.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Listen, C.J. Shroud for the sling that ball, man. That's what he's done. That's what he's done when he was at Ohio State. That's what he did when he was in college.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I watched him play in L.A. when he was in, I can't remember the name of his goddamn Pop Warner team. Man, he used to sling the ball and he's going to sling it next year too.
Starting point is 01:01:04 And you can't stop everybody. You can't double Diggs. You can't double Nico. You can't double Tank Dale. Yeah, you got Dalton Schultz. Oh, man, I forgot about Dan Dalton. That's almost unfair. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:18 I have a feeling. I just have a feeling. I don't know why I can feel it deep down inside me. Because he's so efficient as a passer, I really think everybody will have 1,000 yards. I think Diggs and Tankdale and Nico Collins will have 1,000 yards, all of them. Just like that 22-yard receiving core with the Cardinals. David Njoku, Ken Dorsey's offense is juicy.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Njoku sounded pretty positive about the move from Alex Van Pelt to Ken Dorsey. Njoku was asked about the offense that Dorsey has been installing this offseason. It's juicy. I'm not going to say anything else. Leave it at that. But I'm really excited for this year. And Joku had 81 catches, 882 yards, six touchdowns, all career high in 2023.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And said his goal for 2024 is to just be better than last year. I like it. I like last year. I like it. I like it too. I like it too. What Deshaun Watson are we getting? That's the only thing that's important. I want the Deshaun Watson of old. I want the Deshaun Watson where there weren't
Starting point is 01:02:17 that many great targets at your disposal as a Houston Texan, but you made things happen anyway. Where you look like you were the best quarterback in the NFL. I need that Deshaun Watson to pair with all the great talent that I now have surrounding me. For some reason, it looked a little different
Starting point is 01:02:34 when... Oh my goodness, what's it? Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco came in and was able to orchestrate that offense and allow it to look somewhat better than it did when he was in there. I knew from the ground running from week one on out,
Starting point is 01:02:50 I wanted to look like an offense that's being orchestrated and ran by him, the quarterback, controlling everything, being able to facilitate the ball. Here you got Amari Cooper. You got Njoku. You got my young bull from down here in Miami. Why is his name sticking in my mind?
Starting point is 01:03:10 The running back? No, no, the other receiver on the other side. Oh, Jerry Judy. From Alabama. Jerry Judy. You got Jerry Judy. There are no excuses this year, you know, for the Browns. And this is, I don't want to say uh make it a break
Starting point is 01:03:26 year for deshaun watson but he has all the pieces around him to make sure that they do well and defensively they were phenomenal last year defense they were good oh they're very good i think they're number one i think they finished number one very good so yeah yeah uh uh it's time now it's been three years since we saw deshaun when he's in Houston and we remember what he did. I'm saying his last year in which he played in Houston. We know that last year in Houston,
Starting point is 01:03:52 he didn't see the field. So we understand that, but we're saying the last time we saw him play in Houston, he was phenomenal. That guy playing in Cleveland with these weapons and that defense is good enough to go contend for a title.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Oh, yeah. Most definitely. Most definitely. I mean, obviously, you think the Browns offense is going to take a bigger step going forward this season, right? They should. I mean, it's time for Deshaun to take... It's time for Deshaun Watson to earn that quarter of a bill.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Right. We understand the first year he was off for basically the entire year. I don't care. No, bro, you cannot, this is a, you either use it or you lose it. Right. It's hard to be away from something for an entire year and pick it right back up. Right. So he was off for an entire year.
Starting point is 01:04:50 And then he comes back, Ocho. He's suspended for, if I'm not mistaken, what, the first 11 games? Mm-hmm. So that's only six games. And then last year he got hurt. It's kind of make or break right now. But Deshaun, he needs to play. He needs to show why Cleveland gave him that additional $80 million.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Right. He has weapons. He's never had, look, we understand that he had D-Hop, but he's never had these weapons, this many weapons, in Houston like he has in Cleveland. He didn't have a defense to back him Houston like he has in Cleveland. He didn't have a defense to back him up like he has in Cleveland. So he doesn't have any excuses. He doesn't have any reasons
Starting point is 01:05:31 why he shouldn't, why this thing like this thing should be really because my thing is my question now. Okay. My only question is, okay, how does the AFC North shakes out? Because you got Lamar and the Ravens. You got Joe and the Bengals. You got Deshaun and the Browns Because you got Lamar and the Ravens. You got Joe and the Bengals. You got
Starting point is 01:05:47 Deshaun and the Browns. And you got Russ and the Steelers. And we know that defense of Mike Tomlin. So what you got, Ocho? Who win today on St. Norris? I mean, you know where I'm going with it. You know I'm always leaning towards the Bengals now. I think everything... Ravens going to prop your ass up
Starting point is 01:06:04 and make sure you don't fall over. Okay. Tell any Ravens fans they want to bet. They want to bet on the season. Let me know. You don't want none of that. Any Ravens fans
Starting point is 01:06:15 want to bet on the season, I'm telling you now. You know my Twitter. I ain't betting no more than $20. That's it. So what if we bet and neither one of our teams win? Wait, well, they have to win
Starting point is 01:06:33 because if they playing each other, we only betting when they play each other. No, we said, no, we bet the division. We betting the division. We ain't betting who win the game. Damn the game. Oh, well, we already know. Oh, we win a division no matter what.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Oh, my. Well, you know, you don't believe in the Broncos? The Broncos got Zach Wilson, baby. They ain't in the AFC North. I know, but I just told you the Bengals win in the AFC North, so that's $20 right there. Anybody want to take a bet? I'm taking all bets.
Starting point is 01:06:56 So I'm supposed to take the Broncos over the Chiefs? Yeah, what's wrong with that? You wouldn't take the Bengals over the Chiefs. You don't believe in your own team? Man, Chiefs. You don't believe in your own team? Man, stop it. You don't believe in your team? I believe. I don't believe they're going to win the division.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Hold on, man. I can't laugh, man. Hold on. Man, Big Derrick Henry going to run that ball all over y'all here. Man, run over who here? Y'all. Man, we're going to put Derrick Henry in run that ball all over y'all here. Man, run over who here? Y'all. Man, man,
Starting point is 01:07:27 we gonna put Derrick Henry in the frying pan, man. What you talking about, man? We coming downhill too. A-gap, B-gap, whatever. Hey, Derrick Henry,
Starting point is 01:07:35 you heard that? Hey, Lamar, you heard that? Oh, so you out on your homeboy. I thought Lamar your boy. Hey, Pratt, Pratt, I know you gonna see this, Pratt.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Man, let Derrick Henry know what time it is, man. All I know is Lamar Jackson got a winning record against the Bengals. That's all I know. I don't know a whole lot. I mean, yeah, that's cool. That's cool. That's cool. And we talk about the past.
Starting point is 01:07:55 This is a new year. It's 2024. It's 2024. This is a new year. Pratt. Let Derrick Henry know. We're going to meet you in the A-gap homie okay
Starting point is 01:08:05 stretch play we'll meet you wherever stretch B-gap y'all gonna beat him in the A-gap Lamar Jackson round the C-gap
Starting point is 01:08:13 oh touchdown appreciate that oh no we good we got corners pulling up Cam Taylor Britt boom
Starting point is 01:08:21 flip him fumble ball going the other way oh you talking about that was the guy that gave you them chest compressions? Huh? When you need to see parts out, that guy that gave you them chest compressions? Boom, boom. Nah, you the one just said you can't come back from nothing after a year, but after 12, I'm supposed to be able to do it?
Starting point is 01:08:38 Whoa! That what you tell our channel all the time. You go play right now. That what you say. Yeah. You said that. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I said it,
Starting point is 01:08:45 but can I get some training first? No. You said you could go play. I thought you needed CPR because the way the man compressed your chest. Hey, listen. Listen to me.
Starting point is 01:08:56 All I need is six months of training. That's what they have. That's what they have. They got six months of training. Oh, Ocho. Ocho. What up? You don't think I can play, though?
Starting point is 01:09:06 Like Teddy Pendergrass said, I think I better let it go. Let it go. Oh, shit. Hey, we done had our time, Ocho. It's time to let them young boys have it now. Let's just, hey, let's critique them young boys.
Starting point is 01:09:20 We got to let it go. Hey, nah. Sometimes you got to let them know you still got it, dog. No, you had it. You ain't got to have it no more. Hey, like you said, see? You don't buy no fancy cars, though.
Starting point is 01:09:30 See? Do you? You don't spend no, you don't got no fancy cars, because what? You already had it. Yeah. You don't need to do it. You don't need to show no more.
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