Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Chad responds to Cam’ron, Luka’s off-court habits, Diana Taurasi retires

Episode Date: February 27, 2025

Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson responds to Cam’ron going off on Ocho for working with Shannon Sharpe instead of him. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss the Dallas Mavericks feeling apprehensive about Luka Doncic smoking hookah and drinking beer, the GOAT Diana Taurasi announces her retirement after a legendary 20-year professional career and much more!05:30 - Show start06:50 - Intro09:00 - Ocho responds to Cam’ron23:31 - Luka’s triple-double against Mavs26:30 - Luka’s smoking and hookah use40:42 - Dwayne Wade on LeBron James leaving 50:13 - Kevin Durant expected to be traded56:10 - R.I.P. NBA Cental 1:00:00 - Diana Taurasi announces retirement (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Can I get one of them? Yeah. Okay. See, we're having a small discrepancy now. This is the second time. I just got this today. You got something and I don't have something. I just got it today.

But you'll have it. Okay, well listen. If they sent you one, you're supposed to ask for two. Two of everything. When you win an award you ask for two awards. Ocho we're gonna make sure uh yours is at your grandma's house so go over there and get it. It is? Yeah. Okay okay why you tell me that? Actually it was delivered two weeks ago but that's not to hear in the day but, we're gonna keep moving right along, please

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to respond so the floor is yours. Oh, absolutely. Listen, listen, Cam, Cam has some, some, some stuff to say and I had to think about it and I had to listen to it and, and think about some stuff that, that, that was brought up from two years ago where I said, can you my mans and I'm coming for your spot. Now I'm not sure how that's taken his hate when all you have to do is understand that I'm saying I'm coming for your spot

because I see you as the standard that is setting the bar in that specific space. So you took that as an insult, which is weird to me. I'm not sure how you can do that. But if you check the mother fucker, if you check the numbers, what you check the numbers what I said I wouldn't do I've already done and surpassed that in this specific space now he said he asked me to come join them you know to do something with them

and I told him you know okay you got to check with my people you got to reach out to my people who when I when it was time for me to work with you, what did I ask you to do? Reach out to who? I talked to Doug. You talked to Doug. So boom, we did it, you know, like that. That's the way I handle business.

I don't run nothing through me. So I guess that was seen as a sign of disrespect because I chose to come over here with you. Boom, Okay. Now we brought up the issue with he talking about money and bags and how much you pay guest feature, you know, how much we pay our guest features. Buddy, I ain't no guest feature. Well, I'm the main attraction. What is you talking about?

I've always been the main attraction. There's a, There's a difference. In your lane, you do what you do. I'm in completely different lanes and completely different rooms from you. Despite me always playing around and joking. It's different. For one, you wouldn't have been able to afford me to begin with. Let's start there.

And I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm not trying to be disrespectful, home. I think because I do everything in an entertaining, fun, laughing way, you kind of forget and don't really understand what's being done over here and how special what we have is. And that's no disrespect to them. Because I like they show. I love it is what it is. Because it's different than what we do. Their views, they got some high ones but it's mainly about going at people and

jigging at people. You know, over here it's about having fun entertaining and the stories. Yeah. Completely different. Two different shows. I love them though. Yeah. Then you know Cam, Completely different. Two different shows. I love them though. Then you know Cam, he's a Harlem dude. I've been to Harlem. My face is clean in Harlem. Most of the time, those that I know from Harlem, you know, they don't act like that. You get a little emotional for nothing, especially about stuff when's what I show respect. That allegedly happened two years ago. Two years ago and it was it was a sign of respect because I see you as the standard of what it is to be the best at in this space. Then

The Stephen 8, the Stephen 8 thing you talk about Weird and I don't like you don't like my vibes Listen for one the whole world know I'm joking and trolling. It's a funny story that wasn't even true to begin with and you took that serious. So then now you're getting personal with the words and the talking. I post my location where I'm at every day. What you tell me to stop doing? Stop catching rides from the airport, right? Yep. Everybody know where I am every single day no matter what city I travel What you tell me to stop doing? Stop catching rides from the airport, right?

Everybody know where I am every single day, no matter what city I travel to. I'm outside all the time. If it was really an issue or you really didn't like me and it was a problem, I'm easy to find, especially in Miami. If I'm not mistaken, you'd be here. Y'all feel me? If I'm not mistaken, you'll be here. Y'all feel me? If I'm not mistaken, I show everybody respect, huh? I show everybody love. What's one problem that you've always gotten

on me about doing a show like this? I don't do enough what? When it comes to talk about players. Yeah, you don't critique enough. I don't critique enough because I'm always showing love. I'm always showing respect no matter what. I never get showing respect no matter what. I never get out of line with nobody. Right. But the words that were displayed

is if it's a personal issue. Now if it's a personal issue, which I've never had with anybody because I always show everybody love and respect, I'm easy to find because I'm outside, always. In Harlem too. That's the stomping grounds, right? I'd be at Ricardo's all the time. Matter of fact, I'm going to be in New York Monday. You know, I'll be at Ricardo's at five o'clock to be exact. But it's always love. Never disrespect.

And that's it. And I love you. And I love you. Unless you want to go another route. The way I look at it, Ocho, I think you explained too much. You did what you did. You don't represent yourself. Most people, that's why you hire representation.

If you didn't want representation, you could have done it on yourself. And yes, you could save 3, 5, 10%. But you chose to have a representative that funnels everything through. I reached out to Doug because I knew Doug was your representative. I didn't reach out to you first. I reached out to Doug. I said, hey man, what's didn't reach out to you first. I reached out to Doug. I said, Hey man, what's up with Ocho? Where are, uh, I want to run something by Ocho.

Funny Ocho in town. Hey, can we meet at the Palm and such as such, such as such a time you showed up. I made the pitch to you. You say, Oh, I'm good. I said, well, listen, don't be worried about the money. I trust you. So that was, that's what, that's how we handle that. I don't, like I said, look, people like, man, you don't, I say, bro, y'all gotta know what Ocho serious. Y'all gotta know what Ocho

joking. Y'all don't seem to know which is which. So that's on y'all. I know when he's joking, I know when he's being serious. But for me, Ocho, and we had this conversation and you hit me up yesterday, I say, for me, I just let it rock. I felt just then you explained too much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen, sometimes you got to clear the air, right? You got to clear the air because then you have an issue, right? Well, he could have called you, Ocho. If that was the case, if he had an issue with you, he could have reached out the phone and he could have called you.

That's how I know it wasn't an issue. It wasn't no issue for real. You have a show to do. He has a show to do. He has a show to do. I understand that. But the disrespect, you don't have to like me. I don't care about that part. Get in line. It's a lot of them. Right. But the disrespect like that. And then you got the wrong people hearing it and it's ruffling feathers. It really shouldn't be ruffling because I don't move like that. Never have. Well, I think the thing is, but anyway, hold on. Oh, and this is, this is another thing.

Hold on. Didn't talk about the money and the pocket watching. Unc, I have a question. Do they understand how many jobs I have? I'm just curious. No. Unc, I got 50-11 jobs. Then you being slick at the mouth,

talk about if you need a job, I ain't hiring no more. Unc, this me. What did you talk, what are we talking about? There's levels to everything. You in one lane. I got about 50 left above them. There's a difference, but because I play around and have fun with it,

for some reason you think we on the same level. It ain't never been that. Even if you was in your prime, there's a difference. I would, I would not. I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm humble. Well, see, no, no, I am glad. I'm humble. But see, when everybody was coming for an aunt, you like, aunt, I tried to tell you they were gonna know you What did I tell you what I tell you I was yet? I was you in for sir, right? Yeah, you know it for I was I was I was gonna go listen. I said I was in for sir

I'm not saying anything wrong. I'm just addressing what was addressed towards me Yeah, and a respectful way in a respectful way still right? As a small reminder. For me, Ocho, the reason why I stopped and I said I'm not going back and forth with nobody and there have been a couple of guys still taking shots, they got too much money at stake. I'm not- Oh yeah, a lot.

Oh, hey, say it again one more time. It's too much money at stake. What? Too much money at stake. Yeah. Oh, a lot of it. Master P and Gillie say, boy, if you ain't careful, they'll trick you out your spot. They're not going to get me out of this spot.

No, no, no. That ain't even happening. That ain't going to happen. So I would say whatever issue y'all may or may not have, I don't know. I don't know anything about this. All I know is that, Ocho, you and I, hey, we do nightcap. We do what we do.

And we keep it moving. We don't talk about anybody else on their podcast, no matter what they say about us, no matter what they do, whatever their numbers are, whatever their views, whatever they downloads, whatever advertising or sponsorship they have, congratulations, because they are what I know, 80% of the money that's in circulation was printed

in 2020 moving forward. So guess what? If the government runs out of money, they'll print more. There's enough for everybody that choose to do this. Yeah. Nightcap, all the smoke, the pivot, it is what it is. Whoever, a podcast, P, whoever have a podcast, there ain't no reason for us to be beefing.

Joe Rogan ain't beefing with Caller Daddy. They're not beefing with Caleb. They're not beefing with Theo Vaughn. I don't know why we got issues. Listen, we don't have no issues. But I'm saying why we gotta address it? Listen, you listen. Call you! Wait, listen to me. This is what you gotta do. You know, if somebody says something, then it's our right to respond.

It is. Listen to me, let me finish now, in a respectful way. In a respectful way, there's a misunderstanding. Because for one, like I said, what was said in that tweet out two years ago, it was a sign of respect. Boy, I'm coming for your spot, because I see you as that boy.

You should've dressed it then. Why dress it now? Because it's good. It's good. It's not a bad thing, huh? You know? But again, I always show love and respect to everybody. Always. Now you don't have to like me, but you will respect me. And if there is an issue, I post everywhere I'm at, and will never change that. Everywhere. Well, can we move on now, because I think we've given them 17 minutes too much of our time?

Oh, wait a minute. That's what this is about. This is what this is about. It is what it is. We love what they do. I love what they do. You feel me? It's a it is. You know, we love what they do. I love what they do. You feel me? It's a funny show them boys funny You know, we got our own we got our own thing we do our thing in our lane

Like you say it's enough room for everybody mean to let nobody trick us out our spot. No, it's just about that money Cuz I got 50 them kids the race And I got a goddamn new house Because I got 50 little kids to raise. And I got a goddamn new house I got to decorate. Now where we at? We good? Huh? We good?

We done with this topic. We done with this. So, Chad, don't jump in there and somebody, did you see what he said? I don't care. They can talk about me all they want to. Hey, I don't, Ocho, hopefully Ocho is done with this. They can, they, he said what he said. Ocho responded. Hopefully we can move on. But for me, I ain't got no issue with nobody. I, I, like I said, I refuse to, to, to go back and forth. Uh, I don't see a, really a need to

whether or not they like us or like me or dislike Ocho or whatever the case may be. I wish you guys nothing but the best, but I do know there's enough room for everybody to get to get a piece of this pie. And so that's the way I'm going to approach it. So I wish you guys the best. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on. Come on with that humble shit. There's enough room for everybody to get a piece of the pie, but you know who gonna get the bigger piece? Man. Huh?

Huh? Last night, Luca, last night Luca showed the Mavericks. Wait a minute, we ain't even talking about my new place. We're gonna get to that. Let's get to the topic of that. Last night, Luca showed the Mavericks why the decision to trade him. Last night, Luca showed the Mavericks

why the decision to trade him. Last night, Luca showed the Mavericks why the decision to trade him. Last night, Luca showed the Mavericks why the decision to trade him. Last night, Luca showed the Mavericks... Wait a minute, we ain't even talking about my new place. We're gonna get to that. Let's get to the topic of that. Last night, Lucas showed the Mavericks why the decision to trade him could age horribly. He had his first career triple-double as a Laker, finished with 19 points, 15 rebounds, 13 assists.

There were chants and the crib. Thank you, Nico. Thank you, Nico. I don't know how much of the game that you watched, but I can tell Luca was a little nervous. Obviously, he wanted to have a big game. And that's what you want to do when you play your former team, Ocho. You don't need to prove them wrong.

You need to prove you right because you know what you can do. And Luca, with the exception of a game, what, the game against the Nuggets, he's kind of struggling with his shot. It's going to take him a while to get his legs, to get in the field of thing. He's learning a new offense, learning obviously never played with a guy like LeBron, but this is going to prolong LeBron's career. I can see LeBron playing another two, three seasons after getting Luca. But watching Luca last night, he's special. Everybody knows it. He can pass out of the double team. You see they did a great job. They tried to, he got going early

and then they trapped him, doubled him, blitzed him, want to get the ball out of his hands. And he made the right plays more times than not. But LeBron came to the rescue in the fourth quarter with 16 points, 16 huge points, made every right play. And it was a good win for the Lakers. Don't take too much solace because they were playing without Anthony Davis playing without lively and it was also playing without Daniel Gaffer but I like the Mavericks. I think the last Mavericks once they get Luca

Yeah, once they get a D back healthy with Kyrie in the way Kyrie can play off the pick and roll the way a D Can play in the pick and roll mid-range? Oh three some score at all three levels I think the Mavericks got a got a got a got a good team. But I was really impressed with the Lakers and how they were able to finish this game off, even though the Mavs were underhanded. Under man. Ocho, let that go. We don't move on with that.

Why? I see it. I see it in your head. I'm focused. Hey, listen, I'm I'm I see it in your head. I'm focused. Hey listen, I'm locked in. I'm locked in, huh? I'm locked in. Listen, I'm thinking about the bag. I'm thinking about it. I can't let nobody trick me out of my spot. Exactly. If you're not gonna be tricked out of your spot, I got you. Hey, can I tell you something? What?

You know, I heard somebody talk about like if uh if uh you know if you need a job you ain't hiring no more you know I just got a new job. You gotta do it. Where you working at? Yeah. Can I tell you? Yeah. I'm see you on Monday. Congrats. Thank you. I appreciate that. And by the way, guess what else? Guess what else? What else? I'm going to see you on Tuesday morning too. Today the athletic reported the Mavs had an issue with Luca smoking hookah and drinking beer. Makes no sense. The people who witnessed Luca's last days in Dallas do not paint a flattering portrait

of the two. They're not going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that.

They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. They're going to be able to do that. The Mavs had an issue with Luca smoking hookah and drinking beer. Makes no sense. The people who witnessed Luca's last days in Dallas do not paint a flattering portrait of the 25-year-old's professionalism. They call him lazy. They talk about the weight issues that with such frequent frustration within those walls. They mention the social habits that athletic has reported on, such as taste for beer and hookah, which has been a point of concern for NBA type since he was 19 year old star for the Real Madrid

who was entering the NBA draft. They predict his basketball demise, highlighting health history that is some will will likely lead to catastrophic, oh, catastrophe in the next five years or so. Damn. Damn. catastrophic catastrophe in the next five years or so. Damn. Damn.

Look, he, Ocho, I mean, he can't, he's 19 years old, he's been a professional since he was like 16. He's been playing, look, it seems to be the thing now, going to the hookah bar and the hookah lounge or whatever the case is, and you smoke hookah and have a good time. Um, he, like, well, clearly you remember last year he had a beer and, uh, Finley, Michael Finley took it out of his hand. I don't, I don't know what's

true. I think maybe, I think two things can be true. I think they were scared to pay him 30, uh, $345 million. I also think they was concerned about his professionalism and the way he conducted himself Not only off the court but on the court as well. Go ahead Wait on the court connect on Luca on the court They got tired of all the argued all the moping the pouting and things that the rest. Okay. Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes To me I would think Luca reminds me of a great player

I played with. Arguing with the rest when he failed, he deserved the call, he didn't get a call, he goes back and forth with the rest. TJ Houshmizadeh. He reminds me of TJ. And most of the time, nine times out of ten, TJ was right, especially when he went back and we watched film. Now when I look at Luca, all I can see, Unc, Luca plays the game a certain way at a very, very high level where he's top three,

maybe top five in the NBA right now. Correct me if I'm wrong. So you mean to tell me as good as Luca is, they don't want to pay him the money they want to pay him because he has an issue with beer and has an issue with smoking hookah. Can I tell you what other players might be doing as well that might not display the same behavior, but still getting a bag? Yeah. Can we think about you? You, an NFL player, you play, you, you play with linemen, linebackers, they drink,

they smoke, but when it comes time to performing when it comes time to perform and what do they do when they show up on Sunday on they do what get the job done okay they get the job done I think that should be the bottom that that's that should be the bottom line now finding reasons why not to pay someone is saying well you smoking hookah and you drinking beer is the reason we don't feel like Can you but the production that you do want as a player for that franchise is showing up? Yeah, nice hard for me to even talk about something like this when I don't drink at all right and I don't smoke no hookah Now my issue is cigars

So it's hard for me to kind of interject and understand where people will come from. When the main goal for me, the main thing is always the main thing. What are you doing once you touch the field or once you touch the court? That's what I'm paying you for. Now what you choose to do in your own time, that's on you. Now when it affects your play and your production, now we got a problem. I think the thing is that they felt Luke could be in a leader. He should be a little bit more professional as far as, okay, don't smoke. Like I said, this is speculation, Ocho, and I hate

speculating and conjecturing, but for them to get off a player that's 25 years of age, that's a five-time All-MBA player. At this juncture of his career he has more first-team all-MBA selection than LeBron did. And he is the quickest to 5,000 points. When LeBron James was the quickest of 1,000 all the way through 35,000 to 40,000 he was the quickest. And he's three games ahead of what LeBron was at the 5,000 point pace. Um, with that being said, Ocho, I think the thing is there's a combination of, there's a lot of things that work here paying him $70 million a year until he's age 30. Um, the habits,

because guess what? Those habits, as you start to get age, now your body starts to break down and we're on the hook. We see now all of a sudden that three year extension for Joyland B that $193, it ain't looking too good, is it Ocho? It ain't. So and that's how you have to end for me. Look, I'm always going to be pro player because I always want them to get their money because the team making money. But as being a business owner myself, you understand there's certain

things you try to protect yourself against down the road. Okay. And people always like pay, pay, pay. It's easy to say when it's somebody else's money. Imagine when you and when you feel somebody's trying to take advantage of you. I give you like somebody's working and you let me you trying to overcharge me. No, I'm good. But if it was somebody else, maybe you would pay it in this situation. And there might be, there's some truth on every side. Uh, maybe Luca. I don't think Luca, everybody ain't going to have the work ethic

as LeBron, Colby and Jordan. Okay. Let's go ahead and clear that out. There's a lot of people do things a lot of different ways. There's more ways to, to get to the bottom of something than just going straight to it. With that being said, I understand. I might not agree with it, but I understand the Mavericks take, we got to pay this guy $70 million a year.

Yeah. I got you. I got you. I understand. Lucas like, and now, and maybe this is what Lucas needed, Ocho. Maybe he, maybe like, because I don't know if Lucas realized how good he can be. Because once you start having success, you remember like when you, when you worked that really hard, that first off offseason and you had that success Mm-hmm. You became obsessed With having that level of success. So it was nothing to get Ocho when somebody said Ocho come on No, bro. I got to go get this work in this morning. I got to work on these these ladders I got to work on the cone drills. I got to work on this high hand-eye coordination. I got to get that done Luke ain't gonna never have nobody like LeBron. He ain't gonna have nobody like the white house

He ain't been to have no caps on his shoulder. He don't look like that. He go he get in shape. He go look like your kids So if y'all think he gonna have caps on his shoulder like LeBron, I mean and Dwight Howard, that's not what he is Right, but I do think I do think now when you get traded, you get released, it's a wake up call. Cause you know, you feeling good. That's why he was so hurt by it. Oh, because think about this shook the car. This shook the NBA. Yeah. I mean, they said never have a player of this caliber been traded that didn't ask for trade.

Kareem asked for trade. Right. The great asked for trades. Right. Asked for this. You know, you know, it's funny, you gave me, you gave me your perspective and of being a business owner and not wanting to invest that kind of money in a player, but to me, it's still some type of red flag where I'm

really not believing the reason you don't want to invest that type of money based on the accolades that you just ran down with this young bull has been able to do in such a short amount of time. It got to be more to it than some goddamn beer and hookah. It got to be more to the story. What they say they call them lazy, they talk about the weight issue, there was such a frequent frustration within the walls they mentioned his social habits that they have reported on taste of beer and hookah Which had been a concern for mba type since he was 19 So he came into the league and you know you had but the problem is also they say they predict his basketball demise

Highlighting a health history that, as some see it, will likely lead to a catastrophe in the next five years or so. Oh my goodness. Ocho, this is what we know. Ocho, this is what we know, having played the game. Those teams, see, when players think they're doing something and the team doesn't know,

that's where they run a foul at. When you got that kind of money, you tell me what Dallas Cowboy player is doing something that Jerry doesn't know about. They know everything, huh? Jerry got the police, that's why everything, the little foul stuff that they can handle. NFL teams, they have FBI level security. They know everything, the little file stuff that they can handle. NFL teams, they have FBI level security.

They know everything. So we ain't tellin' you, oh, we gonna do our homework. We gonna read a week, you know. Hey, hold on. Funny, you talk about Jerry. We talk about all 32 teams. Yes, yes! All 32 teams in the off season,

right now, wherever you are in the world, they know what you're doing. They know who you hang around. They know you like to go. They know what you're spending. They know everything is different. Yeah, it is. And so, uh, it's going to be very interesting to see, Ocho, because we got some guys coming

up. Jaren Jackson Jr. He's coming up in line. He wins Defensive Player of the Year. He's eligible for a Supermax. Five years, $345 million. We're about to find out. He's not as credentialed as Luca.

Wait, how much again? Five years, $345 million, which is $69 million a year. Fully guaranteed. Hey, it's too late for years, 345, which is 69 million a year. Fully guaranteed. Hey, it's too late for me to play hoop, huh? Yeah, it's too late for you to play hoop, Ocho. You should have gotten to that thing a little early. Dang! Here's the problem, Ocho.

The problem is that, let's just say for the sake of argument, none of this is true. You're selling the man's reputation. You're selling the man's reputation. You're selling the man's reputation. Now we've seen it, but now because we've seen him smoking hookah and drinking a beer, the car, you know, the kind of dodge the bullet because they got him on camera smoking, who can drink it a beer? So you're hard to sue for defamation. Uh, can I, can I just tell you something? Who don't drink beer, huh?

Outside of me. What athlete doesn't? What athlete doesn't drink alcohol? Outside of me. What athlete doesn't smoke hookah? Outside of me. Hookah weed? I don't know. I mean, I mean, come on now. What we talking about? I understand. Now, I understand both sides. I got you, but I'm just saying using that as and then lazy and social issues and like what does that have to do with playing? Again, from the business side of things, I understand. What are you doing for me? Every year you tell me all the time on NFL players every year and they got to update their resume. And every year he update that resume. Updating his.

Man. Man. I'm surprised they got to this. A lot of people say that they would have just given them the money. Boy, it's going to be interesting. I think moving forward, we need to pay attention to this. Because if Luca don't get the super max, who the hell gonna get it?

Jah? Anthony Edwards? Shay? Shay, Shay can get, I think Shay can get 290. That ain't enough. I think he can get 290.90 or $5 for $2.90. I think. I didn't know.

Right at $60 a year. I have to check my math. I know Jaren Jackson is in line for that. Jaren Jackson Jr. His father is senior. So it's going to be very interesting to see coming down the pipe. Who gets that? Because it's $345 now. It's going to go to $380. It's going to go to $400. Who's going to get five years?

$400 million. Who do you think? Just curious. Jason Tatum? Oh yeah. Understandable. Rightfully so. Who do you think? Just curious. Maybe Wimby? Wimby, oh yeah, understandable. Rightfully so. Yeah. It's in the room, look on the counter anyway. Hold on, Lucho. You good?

Yeah. All right, chat. Chat. Chat, y'all good? Y'all good? I'm good, I feel good. I feel good. I got me a new job.

I'ma see y'all Monday morning. I'ma see y'all Monday and Tuesday mornings. Outside of that, I feel good. Hey chat, I look good too. Like this ain't just the camera. Can y'all see me chat? Chat, I love y'all. Chat, I love you. If y'all need anything, all Chat, I love y'all. Chat, I love you.

If y'all need anything, all you gotta do is ask, okay? Now I'm gonna say no, but just the thoughts of me being there for you in the time of need is better than anything. Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. I'm handling some business. This must be about money. D-Wade, uh, Ocho, D-Wade says the first moment he thought LeBron might leave Miami is when

Pat Riley took his cookies. Let's take a listen to what D-Wade had to say. That was funny. This was the first moment where I had an inkling that Bron may not be back. One thing you don't do is f*** with LeBron cookies. No, no, no, no, no. I'm serious. Like he loves chocolate chip cookies.

Like chocolate chip cookies and ice cream he loves, right? And so when he gets on the plane, Bron walks on the plane with a bag of food. One bag is all cookies and the other bags are what his chef has prepared for him to eat. Because he eats a certain way. He don't eat what's on the plane, Brian walks on a plane with a bag of food. One bag is all cookies and the other bags are what his chef has prepared for him to eat because he eats a certain way. He don't eat what's on the plane. But you know, he have his cookies. So we get on the plane and we play cards

at the front of the plane, we play cards, and then at some point Brian's going to be like, hey, bring me those cookies. And there's one day, he was like, hey, where my cookies at? And they had to come up there and whist them to the zen and tell them there were no more cookies on the plane. That **** sat back. Wait for me, Hank.

He pushed that table, that car's back. He sat there quiet, doing his head like this. I was looking, I'm like. He ain't play cards no more. He sat there like this. Hey. You see, you see what it, see, and that calls Pat Riley. See Pat Riley is trying to, trying to show, I run the show.

Now look at you. That's too much. That's too much. He doing too much. That's way too much. You don't know. You mean to tell me, you trying to prove a point, so you take the man cookies? Hey, you never bother a person's,

never bother a person's flow. All the, In which in way they travel, a routine in which they like to eat, in which they like to prepare, you never do that. That has nothing to do with the game of basketball. I understand trying to set a precedent, I understand control, you know, but over abusing your power. Cookie Lucho! Come on now. You took the bad cookie. So hey, I have a

question. You think there's a chance, you think that might have been the last draw? Yes, because look, there are some things that LeBron wanted like Maverick and Randy potentially traveling on the planes, having access like that he had in Cleveland, so forth and so on. We know Pat Riley limited that if he didn't mix it all together.

Okay, fine. Probably, but here's the thing. You knew that when he came in there. Because LeBron's gonna lay out what he expects. When he went to the Lakers, he told Magic. Randy blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Bobbito playing on travel, da da da da da. Rich Paul, da da da da da da da.

Mary, da da da da da da. Okay, do you want the... I'm sure when Tom Brady went to Tampa, yeah, I need my guy Alex To be here. I need to have a be able to set up so forth and so on. Okay, you knew that You knew that you get the man there. It's almost like a recruiting visit Oh, yeah, you gonna start you gonna start once I get your ass on campus. You don't sign that letter of intent I do what the hell I want to do now You can't do that anymore cuz them guys jump in the portal on your ass

Excuse me, then jump in the portal on your tail. Oh Joe and then you you you in trouble, but I don't write this Pat Riley, I mean there are some things that he said about he was telling Phil Jackson and Phil Jackson He got up like LeBron wanted to stay and then like He got up like LeBron wanted to stay and then like for Thanksgiving blah blah blah And I just but I can I can see now I can see now Mm-hmm To do that. That's pretty right. That's you. That's you trying to show I run the show Yeah, I mean see and that's unnecessary because very think about LeBron stand a few extra years in Miami. Mm-hmm. How many more rings do they get? But you sacrifice that because you want to prove a point and showing that you know

Look at power and you want to over over abuse it now and even now there's stuff with Jimmy Butler. Yeah I'm not saying Jimmy's right. I'm not saying Pat is wrong because internally I'm not there But there's always an issue where there's a power struggle. It shouldn't be a power struggle. If you want to do one thing, everybody, the main thing should be the main thing. If you're part of the Miami Heat, Pat Riley's main goal should want to be winning championships. If cookies was the issue, the best product on the court to do so. Ocho, if cookies were the issue, do you know how many cookies would be on that damn plane?

Yeah. Oh, I got you, yeah. Do you know? Yeah. What, where do you want the cookies from? Are these gourmet cookies that we need to go to a special shop or these regular chips ahoy or some type of chocolate chip that we can buy from a local grocery store

I just need to know LeBron what it is Because I promise you there is not a superstar player in any sport Let me ask you a question If show always Tony shows up and says he wants something special They're gonna have if he says there's a Japanese cuisine that I need to have before every game and I need to make sure when we travel I have it, I guarantee you they're going to have it. Absolutely. If Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, if whatever superstar player, if Shay goes to OKC, I don't

know what the delicacy is in Oklahoma. I don't I've only been there once but I guarantee you if she says I want this On the plane we're gonna have that I Mean little old me I said Mike we want to watch the fight Mike would have it Mike We won't need this on the plane Mike would get it. You mean to tell me You took LeBron James cookies For what? Right if the man's or if the man if LeBron's overweight? For what? Right. If LeBron's overweight, I say,

hey bro, you need to cut back on these. When has LeBron James not been in shape? We marvel at his body in year 22. We've done that since he was getting to the league as an 18 year old rookie. Yeah, yeah. There's not a time that LeBron has not been in shape, but like you said, this was a power trip. Yeah. You won the battle, you lost the war, Pat. That's not, that's unfortunate.

That's unfortunate. Now we don't even have a chance to come out east. I think we, matter of fact, we still coming out east. Go ahead. No, you're not. Y'all can't beat Boston. Y'all can't beat Cleveland. Y'all can't beat the Knicks. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What, what? What? We can't what?

Beat Boston, Cleveland, or the Knicks. Not in a seven game series. Y'all might win a game, but y'all ain't winning seven games. Y'all not winning four games. I know, I just want to get excited. I just want to get excited. I know.

We need two more pieces And you had D Wade explains it D. Wade said he knew he was upset So that man pushed back from the table and he didn't play cards no more. Yeah. Yeah As mess don't don't mess up a routine. Don't mess up a routine that I'm probably think about how long he LeBron been doing that routine of having those cookies on that flight. Yes Yes, man Yeah, let me get up out of here and I mean I've heard this is not D. Wade is not the first person That I've heard LeBron crazy about chocolate chip cookies, right and to do that

I thought that was petty I. I think it was unnecessary. I think it was Pat Riley trying to prove a point that I run this show and if I don't want no cookies on this plane, ain't gonna be no damn cookies on this plane. And Lebron says, you know what? You're right. This your ish. Yeah, I take my show on the road. And he did exactly that. Kevin and Rand is expected to be traded this offseason via reports. The Mavericks have shown interest in pairing him and Kyrie and AD. What's KD's best landing spot, Ocho? You want me to call him asking real quick? I'm trying to figure out who got the assets. Hold on, hold on. This is going to be funny.

Let me see if he answers. Hell, he probably played. No, they played last night. Man, if they can play him, if they pair him with Kyrie and AD? What? In Dallas? Yes! Your call has been forwarded to voicemail.

The person— Damn. He answer. He probably saw my name and he answer on purpose. Man, he probably watching the show. Listen, do you think, what's the chances? Let's say if Kevin Durant is able to go to Dallas with Kyrie. What do you think their chances are at winning a chip?

A great chance. A great chance. You sure? I'm positive. So that's the one piece of the puzzle that's missing. You sure? I'm positive. So that's the one piece of the puzzle that's missing? You pair KD with, well you pair KD with AD and Kyrie? Hell yeah! Oh shit, I'm trippin'. I'm, listen, I'm trippin'. I'm forgetting AD is there. I'm talking about, what you know, that's a two headed monster. Man, that's a three headed monster, man. Yes!

I just thought about that. Yes! That's a two headed Munster. Man, that's a three headed Munster. Yes. I just thought about that. Yes. Hold on. Hold on. Stay with me now. Why not go over there in LA with Luke and Braun? I don't think he wants to pair with Braun. I think he wants to compete against Braun.

I think a lot of people are surprised that he paired with Steph. Normally historically transcending great players don't go pair with other ones. But... Wait, wait a minute. And plus, the Lakers don't have anything to give up. They don't have any draft compensation. Okay, okay, okay. Now, had they saved that compensation, what they gave up for Russ to get Russ, they gave up all those assets, they would have had some assets and who knows?

But I think in order for them, in order for the Phoenix, they gave up a lot to get KD. They gave them a lot of picks. They're going to try to claw some of that thing back. I think Book is the only untouchable. He was drafted there. They traded. Bradley Beal is going to have to waive his no trade if he if he's gonna go somewhere We'll see how that pans out but KD is the piece that they get that's good

They could extract the most draft capital and players or Because I don't think book. I don't think they're moving book Okay Okay. Dang. I mean, I met the Sun's owner, Matt Ishba. I went to the WNBA All-Star game and had an opportunity to meet with him and talk to him and he was great. But I know he wants to win.

You spend that kind of money, Ocho. I'm trying to win. I ain't trying to win. I'm trying to win yesterday. Damn tomorrow. Yesterday. Right, right. So, and KD gave me, he said, look, I cost a lot, you know,

to come in there in the middle of the season, not have any, you know, time to work. Right. But I think KD wants to win a championship. And he's going to another one. Right. Two places, and it hadn't worked out well. Brooklyn, it was not a success. Phoenix is not a success. Yeah. Hey, I really thought that stopped in Brooklyn. Boy, I thought them boys were gonna be here. Boy, I thought them boys were gonna be here. It had been interesting, had the situation. Well, you know, he got first of all when he got there he was hurt. So he didn't play the first year Ocho and then Kyrie got nicked. So Kyrie didn't play. So they're playing good.

You know, they've been hardened and, you know, hardened like tweak his hamstring. Kyrie steps on somebody's ankle. And that's the second year. And they got beat in the divisional round, the semifinals. The next year, you know, with that COVID issue and it just, Harden gets traded. They move on from Kyrie.

Katie's like, right, y'all ain't finna leave me here by myself. I see where y'all going, let me go elsewhere. Boom, boom. And he ends up in Phoenix. James Harden goes to Philly. Now he's in the Clippers. Kyrie gets traded to Dallas.

Kyrie wanted to go to, go to LA, but they was ticked at Kyrie and it was not going to trade him where he wanted to go. He lands in a good spot with Luca in Dallas. And the rest is as they say, history. But Kevin and Rand with the Dallas Mavericks with AD and Kyrie. Oh yeah, that's championship day. Yeah.

They're going to be first to second favorites to win the championship. Oh yeah. Yeah, for sure. They got a guy that can command the back end. Now it all depends on how much they got to give up, but even if you got to give up, I mean, they're going to probably want all all you all your pigs for the foreseeable future Which you don't care about because you feel you're gonna be picking way down. So there's not gonna be in the lottery Hmm, so they're gonna want a bunch of unprotected pigs. They're gonna want pick swaps

Probably players right so probably players. Right. So listen they're gonna make it happen. They're gonna make it happen. The fact that it's coming out you know this early and now you got to have that on your mind and you know obviously block it out and finish the season you know the right way that's crazy how that happens. happens? Yeah. Okay. Ocho. Parity accounts are mourning the today the NBA Centelle seems to have been shut down on Twitter. RIP Centelle. Did you ever get Centelle? Did you ever get like that stuff that you like, aw man. It got me once. They got me once. They got me once. And listen, it's always something funny too. Yeah. That was a very entertaining count and if you didn't pay attention, they'll trip you up.

Yeah. What, uh, why you think, uh, Ash, what happened? Oh, somebody's probably suing him, she says. Somebody's probably suing them, she says. Yeah. Aw, man. They took the whole account down. So, I mean, you think they got suspended? Normally, normally accounts get suspended, you know, when you're cursed and you mess around with the guy. For Twitter, first of all, Twitter's like the wild, wild west.

They have me anything goes. I mean, they. I mean, you can't even block nobody now. They can still, I mean, they can't respond to you, but it used to be you block them. They couldn't see your content. They still can see, they can't respond anymore, but they still can see. Yeah, Twitter's the Wild Wild West. Twitter's anything goes, yeah.

X, X, it's called X. X, X, my bad. Yeah. But yeah, anything goes now, X X. It's called X. Yeah But uh, yeah anything goes now Ocho. So for them to To remove it themselves or have someone remove it Yeah, yeah, I mean you could have to do anything you want to on X and uh, yeah Hey matter of fact, man. Yeah you listen you got a on boy when you open X in public, you got to be careful. Yeah, I got to be careful because I don't know if you got your sound up.

What you listen you open up and you open up Twitter X, whatever you want to call it and porn just be popping up all the time. No, I don't get that. I mean people have said that but I don't get that popping up on mine. So you don't know. Hey, hold on. Did you follow miss be nasty? You ain't gonna oh, no, she gonna slide your DM if you don't follow back I Want my cow? I want my couch shut down like a NBA centel Now you will get shut down. Hey, don't be scary man. You got a stand on business now

You're gonna shot to shot. She didn't shot back.. Now you're on the limbo. What you scared of? Did it go in? You scared? No, it didn't go in until she... Hey, can I ask you a question? Yeah. Now you can tell me, we family, pretend the chat ain't here. Are you nervous? About what? I mean, does she make you nervous after seeing her content does that make you nervous being that she's so experienced you not ready for that? I ain't seen her content

Oh I ain't been on her content Why you lying? Hey, see you try to get me to go on the content, then what you call them? They shut my account down. Nah, they don't- Listen. Uh-huh.

No, her- I mean, her content, that- that- that- that- it's okay. That's welcomed, you know, on the site, you know? Elon Musk said it's freedom- what? Freedom of speech and freedom of expression. Expression? Yeah, so those that do that type of content, you know, I salute them, I support them and I'm with you as far as freedom of expression and if that's your body and what you like to do in the private of your home and you want to make it public, so be it.

But you need to check out our content, you would probably answer and you'd probably answer a DM. Oh, if I check out a content, I would answer yesterday, huh? Oh, yeah, boy, you would answer last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, you do it. I'm just saying, I'm just saying. Yeah, that parody account has got a lot, parody accounts get a lot of people.

Yeah, and it gets funny too. Because, man, that seems so real that you look at it like, man, this. They got me. It'd be hustle. Oh, Joe. Yeah. My girl, the GOAT DT Diana Tarassi announced her retirement during her 20 seasons in a

professional career, four years in college, early in 2000, all she did and win. She played an entire WNBA career with the Phoenix Mercury which drafted her first overall in 2004 in the WNBA draft. She retires from the sport as the WNBA's all-time leading scorer, score 10,646 points and in three-point shooting 1,447. Salute. Salute DT. Real deal. I mean, the real deal. I mean she won three national she won three National championships at Yukon. She was a most outstanding player. She was college player the wooden award winner. She was state bar She's I mean she is as credentialed as you can be. She's an MVP She's a three-time champion and with the Mercury. She's a finals MVP. I mean

Her resume is complete. Her resume is complete. DT gets to walk away from the game. She walks away on her terms. 20 years is a long time. Hold on, I think what's a guy play 20 years? Didn't Sue Bird also play 20 years? I think they might've been teammates

for a year or two at UConn. But DT, salute. Job, career, well done. You walk away with your terms. And, you know, I think she was alluding to it. Two birds play 19 seasons. OK, so right now, DT has the most seasons in WNBA history at 20. She gets to walk away on her terms, Ocho.

And I think that's, that's important. And the question, did she want to put the work in of what's required to go through another WNBA season, another 40 game to put that kind of, to do that all over again? Yes, sir. I guess you said no Mm-hmm. And when you think about it There's really nothing else for her to accomplish. No Because winning another championship ocho doesn't change

And that's what I look at Does winning another championship change the way you feel about said individual? Lebron james can win three more mvps and nope at three more mvron James can win three more MVPs and three more MVPs or three more anything. And people go still say Jordan, Kobe, whatever the case may be. So with that being said, I definitely don't think there's nothing Diana, a DT could have done that's going to change the perception. Right. Phenomenal. College career, I mean, when it comes to college career, I mean, only who?

Breonna Stewart? That won four national championships. She was a four-time most outstanding player. As far as the college game, there ain't a whole lot of women who can say they got a better collegiate resume than DT with the championships the winning The MVP the player of the year to go number one overall Right. You kind of had a bunch of players go number one overall DT went number one overall Maya Moore went number one overall Tina Charles went number one overall

Paige Beckers are probably gonna be number one overall Who else went number one overall. Paige Beckers are probably gonna be number one overall. Who else went number one overall? Oh, Breonna Stewart went number one overall. I would be super add to Sue Bird or Rebecca Lobo went number one overall. But Bear Story franchise, college program, DT man congratulate man congratulations all great great great great great great career glad I got the opportunity to meet

you glad to say I know you and enjoy retirement oh yeah Okay. UConn have five number one overall picks. Sue Bird, Diana Taurasi, Tina Charles, Maya Moore, Breonna Stewart. I believe what you're calling me is going to be number six, Paige Becker. So absolutely. I mean, they had Tina Charles in 2010, Mya Moore in 2011, Breonna Stewart in 2016, Sue Burr went number one overall in 2002, DT 2004, then Tina Charles, Mya Moore, Breonna Stewart.

Hey, how long now, you know what, this is a good question that I don't know about when it comes to the WNBA. You know how in the, I mean, college, the male college students one year and they can leave. Yes. What's the rule for, for, for, I think they gotta stay. I think they gotta stay the whole while. The whole four? I think so.

You think, you think there are any, any collegiate WNBA players that are ready to leave before they even reach their senior year? Juju Watkins is ready to go. Breonna Stewart is ready to go. Right now? Yeah. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Hey, you know what? And I, there's a young lady. I don't know her last name and

I'm sorry for the disrespect, but I continue to see her highlights all the time when I tell you this young lady Has a package like Kyrie Irvin In college, oh you got to know who it is Man oh Well, I don't know what she learned play basketball Jesus Christ Oh, well I don't know what she learned playing basketball, but Jesus Christ. Also, to be eligible for the WNBA draft, a player must complete four years of college or turn 22 years of age during the year of the draft. Wow.

I think they should change that rule. Especially for the players that are much more polished than others that are actually ready to leave school. Yeah, I mean look Oh I Think what you call them left early Candice Parker She's the only one at the top of my head

Right, just you left. Yeah, I think Candice left for a junior year. Okay But I know she had a lot but let me mean, she had won back to back national championships. She was outstanding. She was the most outstanding player. She was a college wave player of the year. She was a wooden player of the year. If I'm not mistaken, look at that up ass, we'll get back to it. But I actually think that she left early.

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