Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Chiefs late-game miracle, Josh Allen's MVP case, Drama in Philly?

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs defeating the Los Angeles Chargers on a last-second FG, Josh Allen's six touchdown performance in a Buffalo Bills loss to the Los Angeles Rams, Philadelphia Eagles WRs calling out offense in win over Carolina Panthers, Russell Wilson and Steelers beating Browns, and much more!05:15 - Introduction07:10 - Chargers v Chiefs20:50 - Rams v Bills27:15 - Vikings v Falcons38:47 - Eagles v Panthers55:15 - 3.1 million dollar bet on eagles to beat panthers1:01:50 - Steelers v Browns1:08:30 - Saints v Giants(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Why we just can't say like 11 a.m. Eastern time, I mean. I don't know who got cute with this bullshit, but okay. Oh, so the Chief survived with a dark game winning field goal to defeat the Chargers 19 to 17. This is Kansas City's ninth consecutive AFC West division titles. And it came courtesy of a joint field goal. Oh, don't you look. Yes, yes, there are, you know, luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.

But if you look at it, the third down, I mean, Mahomes was running for his life the whole night, Ochio, ain't a whole lot of quarterbacks can do what he's doing because he jumping, throwing the ball, Ochio, he's getting out of harm's way, scrambling. Different arm angles, yeah. He is, and you know, you're like that final drive that doing

But if he doesn't make the play that he's making on the second down on the third down They're not even positioned to get a doing the attempt at a field goal Let alone that situation that third down I mean they take me off with someone they got a 31 and they throw a pass and then they come out the next position and They run it on first and 10. Why didn't you just want it? and then they come out the next possession and they run it on first and 10. Why didn't you just run it the... You know, the fact that they're trying to throw everything off. They're trying to keep the charges unbalanced.

They're trying to keep them unbalanced. What you think we're gonna do based on our normal tendencies, if you study and watch film, we're gonna do the opposite. We're gonna do the opposite. Throw us 31. You think we run the ball right up the gut with Pacheco. We're not. You know what? Now, we're going to throw it this time.

Yeah. It's 37. You think we throwing the ball now. You know what? We're going to hand it off to Pacheco. Right up the A gap, the B gap. I'm like, what the hell is y'all doing? Yeah, I was asking myself that very question. I looked at a stat-o-cho. At one point in time, the Chiefs had 19 pass attempts. They had given up three sacks and 12 pressures.

So only four times had Mahomes had a clean pocket. You look at the total yards, the Chargers had 288, the Chiefs had 298. The Chargers had 94 yards rushing, the Chiefs had 96 yards rushing. Now you see why the game was close. Cause look at the stats, the stats were basically, so now basically you're dealing with a 12 yards of separation between the two teams. Therefore you're gonna get a game like this.

But Mahomes is always really good when he has to be good. And that's the mark of a great- When it matters, folks. That's it, Ocho. Every time, hold on. I gotta say, you know, sometimes, sometimes you slip up, but he's not having any slip ups. Every game, every time, every call is going your way,

the ball is bouncing your way. Every time, can somebody else get some? Every call is going your way. The ball is bouncing your way every time Can somebody else get some? You're gonna have to listen you don't want it to be a one possession game Because you know you don't feel comfortable. He's Tom Brady You let him you pay with two minutes left in the game You need to be up by 21 points against the Patriots because if it this was one possession game and he needs a field goal to beat you. Oh, he's going to get a field goal range.

If he needs to touchdown to beat you. Nine times out of 10, it was going to happen. Right. And that's what we're seeing with Patrick Mahomes. Yes. Yes. I mean, we've not, look, you talk about 14 years of playing 20 years of covering it, another 12 years of watching it as a, you know, as a kid.

Oh, I ain't never seen nothing like this, man. Nah, I ain't never seen nothing like I ain't gonna sit here and lie and say, Oh, I'm just one team at no, even the Patriots and the Patriots used to get breaks, but not all these breaks in one season, they might have get by four and five breaks one season, four or five breaks the next season. But like they got ten breaks one season. Constantly back to back. In one season. Yeah, it's it's unbelievable what they're able to do.

Look, what can it's not so much the offense because look, the offense is and this is a fine way to play. not so much the offense because look, the offense is, and this is a fine way to play, but you see your, their defense is starting to, it's starting to show some where Ocho that back end, that back end is, can, you can be had and now fast have to bring pressure in order to get where he. They, they asked. And now listen, speaking on tonight's game. Listen, the fact that Quinn Johnson, smart, Jordan Palmer, they have to be better. Tonight's game that goddamn pass where Herbert missed the post route, he missed two of those. Point of posse. Two of them, right? That's

14 points. You can't miss those passes. No. Again, like my home, you have to hit those plays. You hit those plays, that's the difference in the game. I kept saying it to myself. Matter of fact, I'm mad, Lad McConkey, if you see this, I'm mad as you. Because if you played, if you played, the game would have been different.

I guarantee y'all were the one. Mm-hmm. I guarantee y'all were the one. I Guarantee y'all the one if you had played, you know, they didn't the receiving court they stepped up But they didn't step up to the magnitude they needed to win the game You just got to hit those throws You got to make you got to make those throws and we used to say this all the time When you get the Patriots, you're gonna they're gonna give you an opportunity now You're not gonna get many of them, but you gotta catch the ones that you do get. You get, yeah.

And so when you get those opportunities, and those are walk-in touchdowns, that's what they are. You don't have to do anything spectacular. You don't ask your guys to make outstanding catches. Hey, all he did was nod. I don't know why, I'm thinking the Mike Backers supposed to continue to run down the hole. I don't know why I'm thinking the the the Mike backers supposed to continue to run down the hole I don't know why he stopped now. I get no cook. You gotta bite because he runs the seven route. That's your responsibility

So he ran a great route He got him off his spot Perfect. I gotta put that on him even even if it's even if it's not a walk-in touchdown It's got to be a 30 40 yard gain, Ocho. But you can't flat out miss it. Miss him. If anything, under throw it at least. Yes.

Don't miss him. Don't miss him long, miss him short. Miss him short. Miss him short. But the Kansas City, this is their ninth consecutive AFC West title. They've had a run. I mean, somebody's gonna have have to knock them off the podium and it's going to be hard because look at, look at the Patriots, the Patriots won how many?

The Patriots probably won like 18, 19 and Brady's 20 years. Yeah. And so you're going to have, and my home's got at least bar and Andrew, everybody hopes that doesn't happen. You're going to have to play some of your best football to beat him because Kansas city is not going anywhere. Cause as long as they got him and you got to realize he's not even 30 Ocho. So you're probably going to have to deal with this for another decade.

Another decade. Now, and go ahead. They are playing. They, they, they're, they're not playing as efficient offensively and the defense can be had. So when you play against a better team, the only team I think that can give them hell in the AFC is probably the goddamn Bills. And the Bills already beat them. Now the problem with the Bills playing the Chiefs is the fact that in the goddamn playoffs The goddamn Chiefs are three and one versus the Bills as opposed to the goddamn regular season one and three We're one and three exactly four something like yeah, I think it's gonna be interesting

They do play the Steelers So we'll see what they can do with the Steelers defense the Steelers can make plays that it the Steelers won And we're gonna talk about this game later today Hickens didn't play and they still found a way to get 27 points on the board. Ross is playing extremely well. I don't know if God was busy and he didn't hear Jameis that he was going to deliver him from turning the ball over, but for whatever reason, that prayer didn't get answered today. So it's going to be very interesting to see how the cheese

match up with the Steelers. What are you doing? Hey, hey, you got me, my camera tilted, man. Am I tilted to you? You look tilted, yeah. Hell, I thought I had vertigo. Damn, man. Other way. Yeah. How it look now? Twilted.

Man forget it. I'm just gonna have to tilt the camera. Come on. But Kansas City wins on a doing field goal. They win by three. 1917. No, they went by two, excuse me, 1917. Um, my homes was great. He had to come out of game winning drive and he did what he needed to do. And, uh, they win the ninth consecutive division title.

And I think they moved to 12 and one. Right. So yeah, they have four games left. 12 and one. Yep yeah they have four games left 12 and 1 yep that's crazy uh next game chat would really like yeah they would like for you to fix that okay your camera I mean it's really crooked bro it's like oh it is yes hold on hold on y'all y'all y'all be with me now. Huh? And your camera like this? Because that's how it's shooting. No.

No. Dang. Mm-mm. No? No. Damn. You got it sitting on something? No, I got it on the same thing as always on. I think I tightened it down a little too tight. Yeah, go back, go back, go back, lead it back. It needs to go that way. It seems like it's like on the... Yeah, now you go back a little bit more. It needs to go that way. It seems like it's like on a, yeah, now you go back a little bit more.

Yes, no, too much, too much, too much. God damn. Boy, you think I ever, you ever think I build a car with you driving? This boy, this joke on the interstate, it did. This boy. This boy. Chad, man, y'all think I'm gonna I'm a car driver with this dude here, man?

Hey! Hold on! Hey! I'm scared. I'm scared to mess it up, man. What you mean mess it up? It's already up! Damn, I'm... It's like your camera's like this, and it needs to be like this. Right, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Have mercy. Chad, that's the best we gonna get. You know, he ain't play no Legos, he ain't never build nothing. So he don't really have- You know what? I think it's a desk. It ain't me. I'm out of town.

I'm not home. I'm in Connecticut. So I think it's the desk. The desk is lopsided and it's causing the camera not to be, you know, like. Well, they don't have a book, they don't have something that you can put slightly up on it to adjust for it being slightly, I mean, clearly you never had a three-legged table

when you was growing up. You didn't have, everything was clearly not. Actually, actually, actually when I was growing up, we didn't have no tables at all. Matter of fact, when I was growing up, we didn't even have furniture. Okay. Well, you're in. Yeah so yeah I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry chat if I'm lopsided if anything if y'all want to tilt your head

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Josh Allen is the second player in NFL history to record three passing touchdowns, three rushing touchdowns in the same game. He joins Hall of Famer Otto Graham of the Cleveland Browns, pulled off the feet when the Browns defeated, they won 56-10 in the NFL championship game over the Lions. The Bills allowed scores on six and nine possessions. The Rush defense allowed 94 yards rushing in the first half and the team's lead leading 14 game streak

of at least one takeaway ended. Ocho? Yeah. Are you concerned about the Bills now? You know what? I'm really not concerned about the Bills. Honestly, I'm not concerned about the Bills. If they were gonna have a game like this, let's get it out the way now.

Obviously, the Rams offense has always been high powered. Cougar, Cougar Cup, Cougar and the Cougar are just coming back and just getting into rhythm as far as the offense is concerned. So you got a glimpse of what they can do when they are fully healthy. So I'm not really concerned, you know, with, with McDermott and the bills. I think they're going to be fine. If you look at the number Josh Allen put up today, no turnovers, right? Nope.

No turnovers today, but he played very, very well for a quarterback that needs, if quarterback that needs to win a game defensively, they gave up what? Six and nine, six and nine positions. Well, what touched that? Yep. Now that's, that's, that's, that's the back end. That's not on Josh Allen. That's not on the Bills. That can be fixed because the Bill of Defense is good.

Outside of that, I think this is the game that got away from him. It is an upset. I consider it a goddamn trap game. I consider it a trap game. But if you're gonna lose, let's get it out. Let's get it out of our system now. Let's get it out of our system now. So we're gonna fix whatever we need to fix before we get to the goddamn playoffs

You know what I think about the thing that I think that look Tom when I think about Tom Brady, I think the thing that's most impressive about him is not yet Yeah, the super I don't want to say the most Yes, some of those are impressive all the records that he had are very impressive. But Tom understood early on in the game what type of game it was gonna be. It was gonna be. He knew that early too, early.

And so knowing that, he knew that, you know what guys, we can't have, we can't settle for field goals and we can't miss possessions where we come up empty-handed. Remember Buffalo spotted them 2014. Right. So you put yourself behind the eight ball so now you've got a hope and your defense is already struggling. The likelihood of your defense shutting them down twice that'll allow you to get back in the game and then when you got it you didn't get a touchdown, you got a field goal.

Yeah. So you got to, you're gonna have, he's gonna have to be mindful of that. And that's the thing when I'm talking about Joe. Joe is that he knows his defense is terrible. At least Josh like, man, this is an anomaly. My defense hadn't played this bad all year. Yeah, right.

We hadn't played this bad all year. Yeah, right. We hadn't played this bad all year. Joe knows from the, man, we gonna suck this year. I got to be, no, for real talk to Ocho, man, look here, not only can I not turn it over, Ocho, guess what? I've got to score damn near every possession. Because if we go down,

if we get the ball first and we don't score, when I come back on the field, we're going to be down points. The question is how many, is it going to be three or is it going to be seven? But we're going to be down points, Ocho. And, and, and Josh, I mean, look, I mean what he had 420 something yards of total offense just by himself. Oh Joe crazy work six touchdowns crazy work and But yeah, you should you put up numbers like that. She's supposed to win the game supposed to win

You should but you can't spot a tea. Oh, no, you can't spot a team now. You got to realize you're on the road Right you spot a team 14. you gon' catch hell comin'. Now. Oh, trying to come back? Yes. Oh yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And especially if your defense is struggling

like they were struggling today. Mm-hmm. But Ocho said he's not concerned. Josh Allen. No. I still think he's the MVP front runner, but Saquon is right there on his heels. Josh Allen was 22 or 37, 342, three touchdowns,

zero interceptions, no sacks. He led him in Russian, 10 carries, 82 yards, another three touchdowns. Shakira was five for 106 in the tub, Amari Cooper played extremely well. Six for 95, but he did have 14 targets, Ocho. Matthew Stafford was equally as impressive. 23 of 30, 320, two touchdowns, zero sacks, zero interceptions.

Hookah Nakua, 12, buck 62, one touchdown. Cooper Cup, five, 92, one touchdown. Two 590 90 to one touchdown 2 to 3 for 45 To to to to to to my finest day County Liberty City legend. Yeah, that's the good look when I go to a game That's kind of game. I'm gonna see okay. I don't lie. Right. I'm about to my defense and big head damn the big head I want to see some points in the board. I go to a baseball game. I want see 12 11. I want to see 10 9. I ain't coming to see no 2 1 I ain't come to see 1 nothing. I'm not a purist. I Won't scores. I won't point NBA. I want you to y'all get up and down. I want to see a

135 to 130 131 133 I want points. I ain't trying to see 85 to 92 ball game. I ain't no purist like that. I want to see points, cause that's where it's headed. That's what I've grown accustomed to. So now don't pick the game that I come to. Now all of a sudden y'all can play defense and I gotta watch a 10 to seven ball game

or a 10 nine ball game. Nah, that ain't what I'm here for. The Vikings beat the Falcons. Oh! Huh? The who? The Vikings. Well, Sam Donah earned himself a contract, boy.

It might not be with the Vikings, but he earned a contract with somebody. But go ahead, I'm gonna finish. The Vikings beat the Falcons. You about to be hyped now. The Vikings beat the Falcons, 42-20 behind Sam Donah's first five touchdown game. The win was the sixth in a row for Kevin O'Connell's club, who improved to 11-2.

Kirk Cousins in his last four games. Zero touchdowns, eight INTs. Ocho? Sit him down. Sit his ass down. Ocho? Is it time? Now, they're only one game back.

They're one game back at Tampa. Is it time for them to set cousins down and play my, uh, uh, Pinnix Jr. Jr. Understanding the business, understanding the business and how the business works and based on what Kirk Cousins has done in his resume from the past, they probably going to keep playing it because they only one game back from Tampa. If it was me, if I was was the coach if my name was mr. Was um Was damn what's the head coach last name? Oh?

I'm almost say what you're talking about Atlanta Falcons Yeah, Raheem Yeah, man, let's now I was about to say uh, Demeco by accident. Yeah Wait, if this is the, if I was Raheem, listen, if we won game back and he playing like that, I'm going to switch to Pennex anyway, even though Pennex doesn't have the experience that goddamn Kirk has and Kirk has the goddamn experience and he playing like that. Well, hell, I might as well take a goddamn loss. If we going to lose and lose this way, I'm going to lose with my rookie.

And get to get into experience. I'm going to lose with my, my, my, my first pick, my eighth pick in the goddamn draft. Man Kirk Cousin what are you doing boy? Do you need LASIK or something? Maybe you need LASIK. He playing good. He playing bad. I don't know what it is. He playing bad don't you. Ain't nowhere around it. He playing bad. Again you can't throw four interceptions last week right? Yep. You can't throw four interceptions. Then you go back, you watch film, you practice all week long and come back the next week and it's also motherfucking mode. Something ain't right.

You trying to throw the game? You bet. You bet. You bet somewhere you, um, so something ain't right. Like, come on now. What you doing? Yeah. Like you guys, you

got, we have a playoff opportunity at hand. Yeah. You know, we think well enough to, I mean actually the NFC South is motherfucking horrible. Honestly. You think about it. That's why everybody has a chance. Raheem did say, Raheem Moore is the head coach. Raheem did say that Cousins is their starting quarterback after the game. Oh, you know, coaches lie all the time. Coaches are on it all the time. I mean, who's that? Didn't Dave Kanellis just say that before he benched Bryce Young? Can you say that? You know, in the next day, what happened? Or maybe a few hours later? Oh, Sam, I mean, not Sam. He benched Bryce and put in Andy Dalton. And put in Andy Dalton. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So listen, you take anything coaches and owners say with a grain of salt.

With a grain of salt. Now I wouldn't be surprised if tomorrow morning, tomorrow morning or maybe Tuesday in the off day, they make a change and a statement comes out, Penning Jr. is now the starting quarterback for the Atlanta Falcons. I would be very surprised they did that because considering they're only one game back. If they were a couple of games back, I see you make that because still,

Tampa has to play, Tampa has to go to play the Cowboys. They got a tough schedule. It's not like they, you know. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Timeout, timeout, timeout. Did you hear what you just said? What you just said don't even go together. You said, said, you just said Tampa still got to play the Cowboys. They got a tough schedule.

They do. They got some games on the schedule that, uh, okay. How about you mention the, the, the minting the tough game. Don't mention the Cowboys. How about that? How about minting the tough game, don't mention the Cowboys. How about that? How about that? Okay.

Uh, no disrespect to them. I'm just saying. Check this out. They got the charges. They got the charges next week. That's a good game. And then Sunday, the week after that Sunday night, they got the, uh, the, uh, the Cowboys. On the 29th, they got the Panthers.

And on the 5th, they got the, uh, they got the Panthers and on the fifth, they got the Saints. And you know what's funny? The Saints are playing really bad right now. You know what's funny? Is the Panthers are making it a game no matter who they playing. Yeah, we're going to talk about that. Let's say that. We're going to talk about that because we got some words for Leggett.

I ain't going to jump to that. Oh, you talking about Xavier. Leggett, Leggett, Leggett. I'm not gonna jump in the gun. Oh, you talking about Xavier. Yeah. Leg it, leg it, leg it. Sam, Donald, and the Vikings haven't discussed the long-term deal. They're not. They just drafted a quarterback with a top 10 pick.

What are we discussing? No. Yeah, but it's a good thing, though. It's a good thing for Sam because his resume, the other team that need a quarterback. Yes. The other team that need a quarterback. So he's setting himself up Beautifully. The only problem is depending on where you go

You ain't gonna have no goddamn Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison at your motherfucking disposal and Hawkinson That won't matter. And Aaron Jones. Oh man shit, but don't get me started. So Byer Byer This is not to take away anything from you, Mojo. He's playing... Don't mess up his bag. Don't mess up his bag.

Don't mess up his bag. He's playing extremely well. Yeah. He is. There's no denying that. But I hope you got similar weapons. I ain't saying you gotta have those exact weapons, but you better have close to them. Boy, it ain't too many like 18 and 3 out there now.

Yeah. Too many out there like 18 and 3. Yeah, we'll be at one. I don't think, I'm not surprised'm not no I'm not surprised that I'm not surprised Minnesota is not thinking a long-term deal now if they didn't have a quarter if they hadn't taken a quarterback with in the top 10 okay yeah yeah but when they whenever they took JJ McCarthy okay I get that but I got a quarterback that's that's a first-round pick that I believe that the quarterback of the

future why am I gonna give this man a long-term deal a A 40, I mean, $40 million, $40 million. Wait a minute, good question. I got a question for you real quick, Don. JJ McCarthy, what was his injury again? What is his foot? A kid, he's an ACL. No, he was, was it his foot? It might've been, it might've been a,

I'm not sure what it was, Ocho. Don't start me lying, I wanna say. It was a lower, it was a lower leg. So I don't, I don't know if it was a ACL. I don't know if it was a foot, legs, right? I'm not sure. Because he's so young, do you think they need to have security with the way Sam Donnell is playing?

Or you think they can, they can rely on JJ McCarty to be the quarterback of the future? I'm not having no $40 million insurance policy. Okay. Okay. I'm just curious no $40 million insurance policy. Okay. Okay. I'm just, I just want to know what you chat. What y'all think? Chad, should Minnesota Vikings pay Sam Darnold? So they have a census security once JJ McCarthy come back.

Uh, he towards meniscus. Oh, okay. Oh, that's not bad. That's not bad. Any young. And that's probably his first serious injury. That's not that's not an ACL. That's not a PCL.

That's not an Achilles. That's not a patellar tendon. Knock on wood. I mean, obviously any injury is all injuries are minor. When they're they're major as long as they're on somebody else. Oh, you they're major. On somebody else, they're minor. On you, they're major, on somebody else they're minor.

But he didn't, like I said, he didn't have, you know, they aired on the side of caution. They like, we got Sam Darnold, we got a guy that's been in the league, we got a guy that we believe we can win with, with the talent that we surrounded him with. You know, you got Jeddah, you got Addison, you got Hawkinson, you got Aaron Jones.

If you don't turn the ball over, if you don't turn the ball over, with the defense, the Brian Flores got that defense flying around, we'll be okay. You just gotta make sure. Well, see, that's the good thing. So, see, that's the good thing. So, maybe it's not a bad deal.

You sign into a short-term deal. It don't have to be four, five years. It could be two, it could be two, three years. Listen, and allow J. allow JJ McCarthy to continue to develop behind him one more year because he hadn't had a chance to develop yet. JJ McCarthy was going to be the starter. You don't want to throw him out there. You have to come out for injury. They were going to throw him out there out of college. He was the starter. Yeah, but now you're behind eight ball times two because now not only do you not, you don't have a year on the starter. Yeah, but now you're behind eight ball times two, because now not only do you not,

you don't have a year on the bill, you don't have a year on the bill and you're coming back with an injury on top of that. So it's even worse. Let me ask you a question. How did that looking for the Falcons? They gave Kirk Cursons all that money and you got Michael Pinnix. So how did that looking for them? Now you just said, now you just said they need to sit Cursons down, but he got 80 million, he got 80 million of their dollars over the first, no, he got 112 million over the first three years.

Okay, well he got 112 million over the first three years and he got eight picks in the last two games. You making my point for me now, you know that right? But Sam Donner ain't throwing no goddamn in the Cephas though. Hey, but I'm saying that before he got on the street, neither was cousins. Remember how they were? I'm just saying that's a very expensive insurance policy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you took Jame, J. McCarthy, he was going to be your starter.

You were very impressed with it. Do I believe Donald has played his way into a contract for some team? Yes, absolutely. Yes. I just don't believe this Minnesota. That's fine. Either way, though, he's going to get paid. I can tell you that. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side and Liar's Poker.

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moving past LaShawn McCoy's 1,607 yards in 2013. He took over first place midway through the fourth quarter and finished the game with 1,623 yards. The chance of MVP broke out to his achievement as it was announced in the stadium. It was Saquon's night 100 yard Russian game this season, which is also the most in Eagles stadium. It was Saquon's night 100 yard rushing game this season, which is also the most in Eagles history. Hurts numbers was pedestrian, 14 to 21, 108 yards.

A.J. Brown had four catches, 43 yards, and threw his helmet in anger after three and out, and Devontae Smith had four catches for 37 yards. What do the Eagles need to improve on? Brown passing. Smith being on the same page, thinking about the same thing, seeing the right signals, just going out there and making it work.

Yeah. Oh, hold on. Carolina had a 16-14 lead going into the fourth quarters, even as the Eagles reclaimed the lead, Young led the Panthers on a final drive. Looked for a brief moment like he had won the game. Xavier Leggett appeared to catch the ball in the end zone on second down with 52 seconds left, but it turned out it was an incomplete pass as the Panthers fell short on third and fourth downs. Think about what that would have done for a young quarterback, 98 yards.

One of the top teams in the NFC. Ocho went on the road. Yeah. At some point, okay, look, Ocho and I gave you a pass because you dropped that one and you did this and you say you gotta be a better job. Now I'm tired of hearing my fault. I'm tired of hearing my bad. I'm tired of hearing my bad.

We'll get them next time. Well, that was the next time. Why you diving for a ball? Oh Charlie, I do it because run. He diving for a ball, he doesn't need to dive for. All right. It's comfortability. Confidence is not where it should be.

I'm a little unsure of myself. No, I'm unsure of my hands. So I want to try to get into my body. Right, yeah. That's why you see guys jump. I'm like, bro, why you jump for a ball that's going to hit you in your chest and you catch it in your breadbasket?

Because I'm unsure. Yeah. So I want to try to get as big a target in front of it as I possibly can, Ocho. Possibly can, yeah, yeah. Bro, can you, Ocho, can you imagine what this would have done not only for Bryce Young, but for this team? They go 98 yards on the road.

To win the game and upset, and upset the best team in the NFC. Well, well, that's an argument, but that's debatable. But still. Back to the Eagles. What's going on with the Eagles? I mean, you're going to have games like this. You're going to have games like that.

You got two Alphas. One of the few teams in the NFL, and I say this all the time, that have two number ones on their team, no matter what people may say. Two receivers, two different skill sets. They get it done two different kind of ways, but it's two number ones. You got two alphas in Devontae Smith and AJ Brown, but you're going to have games like

this. They need to understand that. You're going to have games where you don't have the numbers you want to get, no matter what you do. You're going to have Jaylen Hurts, you're going to have games like this where the numbers are low, where you're playing against a team that you think you're supposed to beat. The Carolina Panthers ain't no goddamn slouch no more. They're playing well against everybody they play to this point if you're paying attention to them. Bryce Young is playing his

ass off. That defense is playing his ass off, which is why the numbers were as low as they were today. There's a reason why you're going to have games like this, A De'Vante Smith. You know it ain't, I know it's about being on the same page. You can be on the same page and no matter which way you flip, if the other team has your number, it ain't gonna work. It's nothing, it's nothing you can do. You know what's gonna happen next year? You know what's gonna happen next week? What? The motherfucking Eagles can go out there and they're gonna have a field day in the passive game. They're gonna have a field day in the passing game They're gonna have a field day in the passing game. It was Saquon day to day

Well, it's gonna be like this. I've had games like this TJ and I've had games where we play in a team Oh, man, we finna go out and have 400 yards 20 yards of peace receiving and it's gonna be nothing like that But I understood game the game it always varies and it's gonna be nothing like that. But I understood game to game, it always varies and it always changes. Well, you get to a game, if I say, AJ, you know what? Number 11, well, he ain't catching nothing today. We don't care what you do. We gonna let Saquon beat us. If he do it, it's okay.

But 11, you ain't getting nothing. There's some team that will do that and don't care, nothing about it. AJ said, and you keep saying it be games like this, but I see Saquon got 900 yard game. So why he had no games like this. AJ say I see three catches. I see four catches. Like in the last six weeks, I'd be I say three, four, five catches. What I'm supposed to do with that. And to tell you something, AJ Brown and Devontae Smith,

you understand you motherfuckers are so goddamn great that Reza Saquon Barkley is still getting the numbers he's getting because he ain't seen no goddamn eight, nine man box because you niggas is on the field. Excuse my language. I'm sorry. My bad. My bad. My bad. I'm just getting a little passionate. Huh? That's how good you are. That's a testament to you. That's why he get the numbers he's getting because they still W anyway. That's a testament to you. That's why he get the numbers he getting because they steal W anyway. That's why you only had 40 something yards a day. You know what if we gonna lose a day, it ain't gonna be by number 11. It ain't gonna be by number 6. We gonna let we gonna let 26 get his numbers. We gonna let him do what he do. Are you surprised

that they voiced their displeasure in the manner in which they did, because you know when you say we need to prove it passing, you know me on the same page, you know who that points back at, right? Yeah, yeah, a little bit. I don't think I don't think they at that moment in that present time and moment understand it, though, emotional Think about Jordan Addison. Free me.

Speaking out vocally about wanting the ball. Look at this motherfucker now. Jesus Christ. Ever since he said something. Look at Jordan Addison. Going crazy, you know what? Let's find ways to put little young bull in a position to make the plays.

So next week, what is the offensive coordinator going to do? All right. You know, the young bulls are upset right now. They're in Philly. Let's find creative ways to move around and have special design plays when the 15 play script and the next game we got coming up, let's find ways to get in the ball, get in the ball early. Let them feel and touch the ball early.

So we got them the whole game. They're going to be all right though. They're going to be right gonna be right you you've seen this before I've seen it before hell. I've been there before You know, so I understand it. I understand it. But right now you winning baby you winning So they might say it's no room for it, but your Alphas need to touch the goddamn rock You got to make them feel like they are part of the offense. You got to make them feel like they're contributing to the success in helping the team win. That's all. I think what is happening is that it's tough, it's tough when y'all don't get the ball early.

AJ didn't get a pass, he didn't get a ball thrown his way into the waning moments of the first half. That's too long. I don't care. I don't care if Saquon is going eight bananas. Come on, bro. You can't, you can't, you can't let me go, you can't let me go 20 minutes, 25 minutes and don't give me a, don't give me a rock. Listen, officer coordinators have to be self-aware. They have to be self-aware. You know that, you know that you understand the type of player you have. You understand the type of dog you have at that position. He's different. You understand and

know how he's built. You understand his DNA. You know how he is. Just let it touch it. It ain't got to be nothing crazy. It could be a slant. God damn it just throw me a smoke. Throw smoke screen. Boom, just get it out to me, let me get jiggy with it. He gonna be okay. Yeah. He good. But to wait 15 minutes and towards the end of the first quarter and then he get a ball?

Yeah, it's tough. Come on, man. It's tough and you know, the frustration starts to build. And you know, look, people look at the Carolina like, man, they sorry. And then before you know it, you don't let them be in the game and now they playing with confidence. And then before you know it, you don't let them be in the game. And now they playing with confidence. And now you don't have confidence

because you're not doing the things that you thought you were gonna be doing because you see them on film. But the Carolina team that y'all probably watch at the beginning of, we all watching tape on them. That's a different team that you watch the last three to four weeks now.

That's not the same team. They're playing different. guys are making plays mm-hmm just not when they need to make the plays yeah they leaving some of them plays oh yeah okay some of them they are some of that a leg it come on baby okay don't tell me is it different than P there's a difference these plays that these plays is different in being good and being great. Yes. Yes. You start, you start trending in the,

in the great direction where you make some of them catches. Because them catches that you making, it's turning, how do you, how you say it? W's, W's. I was, how you say it? The males turn to W's. Oh yeah, the I was turning W's oh yeah the male turning W's based on them catches yes that you miss it and that's when you start turning yourself into being

great not just a regular receiver bro no he was hey baby I need I need you boy you got the opportunity to be more than just a number boy you got the opportunity to be more than just number 17 You got the opportunity to be more than just number 17. Come on now. What's your me? Come on. Because what happened, the quarterback will lose faith in you. Yeah.

Well actually, he doesn't have a veteran quarterback. Now veteran quarterback will lose faith in you. Now you got a young boy like Bryce Young, he gonna keep coming to you. Nah, you ain't. He gonna keep coming to you. Now you got one of the veterans winning veterans hey they don't play that on you what if whatever that's why I thought oh oh oh oh oh what else play

that oh no you talk about in moments like that oh yeah we talked about the first quarter on Joe a first quarter no bro quarter, no bro. That's game winning time. That's moments. Game come down to moments. And it seems like a lot of times the moments have been too big for him because we've seen it time and time again that he's been called upon.

And the, but it always happens like this, Ocho. Dutton the ball always find the guy that's scared to have in his hand. Yeah. When you had it, it was a boy. Hey, hey, throw me, throw me over there. Throw me over there. Let the ball talk. Throw me over there.

He walked over. He opened. But I still don't know why he dove. I just keep running. Yeah. Yeah. But when you're not, when you have have confidence in your hands, you try to get as much as try to get as much of your body in front of you as you possibly can. Listen, I know what he going through. I know what he going through because I've done it before. I've done it before because I've lost my confidence. I've lost my confidence for a week, maybe two, and I'm all in practice jumping for the dig route. You know, not extending my hand until I get myself back

in rhythm and get that confidence back. Yeah, I know what he going through. I know how you feel. That's why I can sit here and talk about it. I ain't gonna stand and lie and act like, oh yeah, I was all, nah. What? I ain't gonna lie to you.

I drop a ball in front of everybody and I get to hear them little boo-birds a little bit. Boy, that shit sting, boy. Of course. Well, that shit sting. Of course. it it takes me a series of two to touch the ball and get my rhythm back and be like, okay Mm-hmm What happens on tour then all of a sudden you start to fight it the ball come here and you double catch it You know I'm saying you don't catch it. You don't catch it clean Cuz you know we like to catch the ball the ball through here, now the ball hit the heel of our hands.

Pop open you, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah. The ball you trying to catch it like, ugh, ugh. Uh-huh. And then it starts to mess with you mentally. Yeah. Cause I like, I'm a hands catcher. I know I'm a hands catcher.

Mm-hmm. And this is what I always used to tell the guys, hell, if you don't trust your hands, why you think he should? Well, that's a good one. That's a bar right there. Come on, now. Hertz was asked, should the conversation

of being on the same page be happening this late in the season? Hertz, no, Hertz hurts replied I just say no as always that's all you need to say you don't need to say nothing else no now got what's what's what's the Eagles offense who the Eagles got this be coming up all I know is I'm not Oh Pittsburgh now watch what happened well it better happen cuz what can can the Steelers do? He left you a quarterback.

They can stop the run, I can relax. Yeah, yeah. Guess what's gonna happen? Guess what the recie- Guess what AJ Brown and Devontae Smith are gonna do? Alright. Remember I said it first, hold on, let me get this tile, cause I done messed up the flow. They gon' keep your deposit. This man got ashes all over the floor.

Nah, I spilled the water. I spilled the water. You got ashes on the floor too, I bet. Nah, nah, I got my ashtray right here. Smoking in the people room, that's a non- You didn't hear me choking earlier, I was drinking the water, went down the wrong pipe. That's a non-smoking room, it's gonna smell like smoke? Oh, no, no, no, no. I got stuff to get the smell out. I got Febreze. You see the first- I got Febreze in the candle from Bath and Body Works.

I'm gonna call them, let them know you been smoking in the room. You don't know what room I'm in. Don't worry about it. What you'll see called whatever room is there, it smell like smoke. Does it. And just to make sure they know I'm gonna send them this tape. Hey, but when they come in the room, it ain't gonna work. Listen, I got you guys.

Listen, let me tell you what you do. You take a little thing of fabuloso, right? Yeah. A candle from Bath and Body Works and I got Febreze and I mix it all together And I light it and when I light it that man about to blow himself up You know, they're the Jerry's like he begotten We call the Jerry but like he's a guy. We call it Jerry, but you know what we call it. What?

Henry. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh, uh, uh, leg, uh, leg it, bro. You got to make these plays, man. You too good of a player not to make these plays and they're going to continue. The ball's going to continue to come to you until you make it. Yep. It's going to keep finding you.

It's going to keep finding you. Hey, it's gonna keep finding you too. It's gonna keep finding you. Hey, it's so funny, when you don't even want it, it's coming. Coming. And the last thing you want is that when you home and your fans start to boo you. And that's what's gonna start happening. Now, you're from that area, they love you,

and you're a hometown kid that made good, but they're fans. They, but they're fans. They like, they're fans. And they expect, so you drop a pass in the first quarter, you're about to start to hear the boos, bro, so I'm telling you, get out there, get on the jugs machine. If you need to get some extra passes thrown your way, by the backup quarterback, but hey,

you gotta bring your hands with you now. That's too many times. That's too many times you potentially put your team in harm's way. It's time to, hey, it's time to put your big boy pants on. You in the NFL, this ain't FC now. This ain't high school, this ain't Rock Hill. This ain't great.

And now they say Mark's Corner, this ain't out Summerville. Nah, that ain't it. Come on. We're all in places that ain't it. Come on. We're all in places that you name it. In South Carolina. Okay, okay, okay. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liars Poker.

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in the world of AI. That is an emoji red flag for me. I'm putting it up. Three emoji red flags. They told me they're going flag for me. I'm putting it up. Three emoji red flags. They told me they're going to fix Siri. I dreamed. I dreamed. So if you want to be smart with your wallet, your career choices, in meetings with your colleagues and at dinner parties, listen to Big Technology Podcast on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh Joe, one of the largest bets ever reported on the NFL regular season game, a $3.1 million

bet for the Eagles to beat Carolina. And it was a 442,000 on the Eagles was in jeopardy until the last minute. So what he bet 3.1 to win 442. So we walk. Yeah. He bought. We saw he won what? 442,000, but he bet 3.1 million.

That's a nice, that's a nice flip now. That's a real nice flip. They don't want. Oh Joe I want to bet minimal and win maximum. How you bet 3.1 and you basically you about to lose. Well about to buddy you said about to Yeah, but I'm saying the objective is, is to bet $5 and win $5,000, not bet $5,000 to win $10. Well, what kind of, what were you gambling that like that? No, that's what I'm saying. That's what the draft came parlaying.

Well, let's get scared money don't make no money, baby. No. You got to put it on put it on the floor If you're trying to earn it there, I get that but not that amount of money to with that little bit of money Okay Come on back down to reality with us regular folks now you talk about that that little bit of money But you bet in 3.1 million He thought it was 1.3. No, in $3.1 million. I thought it was $1.3 million.

No, he bet $3.1 to win $442. Oh, that don't make no sense right there. Thank you, that's what I'm saying. Yes! Oh, I thought it was only $1.3. No, $3.1. Oh man, that's dumb. Yes!

If I bet $3.1, Ocho, I'm trying to win $10.15. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you had me think, you I bet 3.1 on Joe, I'm trying to win 10-15 Yeah, so you had me think you had me think I thought could have swore heard you say 1.3 that he bet 1.3 No, he bet 3.1 million and he won like it's kind of like that uh Masters Jack Yeah, Houston what he bet 7 he bet 7 million on the Astros to win the World Series and he won 35 million That's okay Now we talking

Hey, you know I got a question. Yes I know mattresses they sell and everybody need a bed But ain't no way in hell he got that kind of money from goddamn selling mattresses. Well, I think he'd be having, he'd be having like, if the Astros win this, the furniture you bought is free. So, yeah, so that's how, that's so now, Ocho, I gotta try to get that, because you know, Ocho,

you know people gonna come in and try to get some free stuff now Yeah, I Don't know. It's just a little you just look a little little little sketchy, but okay Let's get you. Well, I Don't know. You must get something in the mat As he says he's hedging his bed So you got it you got to be able to pay for the money that you lose for the furniture So people come in there you get a thousand people come in there and they get you know

2,000 5,000 10,000 dollars with the furniture But you know a so yeah, sometimes you win sometimes you lose Yeah, yeah, but I Look, I used to gamble. I played nothing like you know Dana Dana be playing, you know hundred thousand, you know, twenty five thousand hundred thousand a hand, you know The most I would play the hand is probably like twelve five twelve thousand five hundred That was like one or two hands. I don't play like but I got the stomach for it now Oh Joe because I be because I used to I didn't play

Yeah, I played one hand, couple of hands. 12,000, a hand? Did you win? I did. I won one, lost one, and I was like, it's the stomach, bro, because here's the thing. Like when I'm playing smaller amounts of hands, smaller hands on Joe, I don't look at the chips

on the table as money. That's a chip. But when I put that $5,000, that $10,000 chip, now like I couldn't get up, man, that's, now you start thinking, man, what can I do with $12,000? Man. That's a thousand dollars. Hey, listen, hey, listen, I don't understand. I'm just gonna be, I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, listen. I don't understand. I'm just gonna be,

I'm gonna be honest with you. Like, I done been around a lot of people that gamble. I done been around a lot of people that got money. And I never understood how they do it. I never understood. I just can't do it. I never wanna put my money in harm's way and allow something else to be the reason why I lose it.

If I'm gonna lose it, it's gonna be because of something I did. If it's even my hand, it's because of something I'm buying or purchasing. I can't understand the concept of gambling for those that like to gamble. I don't like 50-50. Yeah, but see, here's the thing. The thing is, Ocho, is that you're gambling on something that you have no control over. Because you betting on games, it's not like you playing in it.

You're not playing the basketball, you're not playing baseball, you're not playing football. At least if I shoot pool, okay, I'm shooting pool. Even if I'm rolling the dice, I got the dice in my hand. Especially if I'm playing hood dice. You know, I let play hood, we used to play hood. I don't play, I don't even. What you play, play C-lo?

I don't play C-lo. Okay, okay, okay. But yeah, I just don't have the stomach for it anymore now. And so I haven't gambled. I think the last time that I gambled, me and Burns, this was way, way back. I think it was like the Mayweather Holyfield fight. And that was the last time that he and I was in there. And he was like. Wait, Mayweather Holyfield? I mean, Mayweather, De La H he was like wait Mayweather Holyfield I

mean Mayweather uh De La Hoya okay they were the De La Hoya that was the last time that I actually that he and I was at the table and we were gambling but we used to gamble all the time wait well in 12th out of the hands no this was this was like in the this was like in the 90s when I was playing and I was making bread you know I made a little money, you know, a little money. I'm big boss. Okay, okay, okay, big money, big money. Hey, you know what I'm saying? You know, I put it up there on your money plate. Hey, that was the deal to turn around, money plates.

You know what I said? Come on, wait a minute, come on. Hey, cards go on money hunting. Well, y'all better than me boy. God, Lee, I don't understand. Man, it's like this sometimes. Russell Wilson threw two touchdown passes in the third quarter and the Steelers forced

a key turnover in the fourth quarter to beat the Browns. The Steelers led 13-7 heading into the third quarter with Wilson and the offense pulling away with a touchdown pass to Devon Jefferson and Pat Breyermuth to stretch the advantage to 27-7. Pickens, inactive for the rematch, the stage appeared to be set for a spicy rematch. Instead, Pickens was held out of the game

with a hamstring injury. With a win against the Browns, the Steelers emerged from a four-game divisional gauntlet with a two-game lead in the division. Though they've secured another 10-win season, the Steelers have set their sights on much bigger goals, like winning the first playoff game since 2016, hosting the first playoff game since 2020. They have a championship caliber defense.

They lead the NFL in takeaways and the Browns added three more to that category for them on Sunday and holding opponents to fewer than 19 points per game. Go ahead. I got a question. When George Pick is on the injury report during the week? I don't think he was. But all of a sudden he had a hamstring injury. I'm sure the NFL is going to want to talk to them if he wasn't on the injury

report, that's something that they'll have to talk to the NFL about. Man, man, fuck all that shit, man. Whoever's responsible for me missing out on the entertainment and the joy of having George Pickens and Greg Newsome pick up with Mike Evans and Marshawn Latimore left off, I'm mad. If this was for disciplinary reasons, did I say that right? Yeah disciplinary. Why would he be disciplined? What'd he do? I mean, we don't, I don't know it just, I don't like the fact that they talking

trash all week. That means he was ready to play. He talking trash all week. Greg Newsome talking trash. They got me hype. You know, you got me hyped. George picking the Greg Newsome. Y'all got me hyped. You know, you got me hype. George Picken and Greg Newsome, y'all got me hype. I'm ready to see y'all go at it within the confinements of the game, of the game. Still playing the game of football, but a little trash talk hitting and celebrating and talking trash to each other.

You know, like a little Marshawn Latimer and Mike Evans, you know, a little Odell Beckham and Josh Norman. Like I was looking forward to that and I was robbed of that enjoyment today. I don't know why but whoever's responsible for me not getting that entertainment from those two, count your fucking days. Is the man hamstring, Ocho? Nah man, nah man, nah man, think I'm gonna stop, man. Nah, nah, nah, man. Nah, man.

Pick and stop playing, man. I look forward. I look by carousel, lift through you. Don't do that, man. Whatever got going on, man. Come on, Pick, man. For real, man. Come on, man.

Week in and week out. I'm watching you and I'm a bangle. I'm waiting to see what you finna do. Week in and week out, boy, cause you exciting. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen.

I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what's gonna happen. I'm watching you and I'm a bangle. I'm waiting to see what you finna do Week in and week out, boy, cause you exciting. I don't know what's gonna happen. I don't know what you finna do You know, you just be out there wildin, you know Come on. The man was hurt. Nah, man. Steelers look good, man. The Steelers look good. They had that little hiccup a couple weeks ago against the Browns But they're good. It's gonna be very interesting

They got the Eagles on the schedule. I still think they got Kansas City on the schedule So we're gonna find out a lot more about the about the Steelers over the next three weeks I mean what more do we need to find out about? I think I mean what more do we need to find out about? We're gonna see what they play when they play When they play against better competition, I mean Russell Wilson's gonna rise to the occasion like he always has listen Russell Wilson is the man of God You know what you know what happens be a man of God God give you favor You know what happened when God give you favor you win in life at all that you do everything you touch boom It turns the goal. I'm not telling you no lie. I'm not telling you what I heard. I'm telling you what I know because I'm one of

them children of God too. Well how about this? Hey, hey, hey, Pastor Ocho, Sunday they play, Sunday they play the Eagles. The following Saturday they play the Ravens. That's Christmas, that Wednesday they play the Chiefs. Well can I tell you what they reckon you're going to be? That's Christmas, that Wednesday, they play the Chiefs. Well, can I tell you what they reckon going to be? Yes. I'm going to tell you again, turn to the book of Job, chapter seven, verse five. He who put it before me, cup run it over with whatever they need. And I'm going to make sure you three and oh, they got, and that's what they're

going to be. They got three games in 10 days. You didn't hear what I just said. I heard what you said. And they got, they got how many games they got? They got three games in 10 days. You didn't hear what I just said. I heard what you said. Hey, they got, they got how many games they got? They got three games in 10 days. How many days before Jesus rose again? Oh, well they'll get some rest on January 5th because they got the Bengals. He said they'll rest on that day. So if they mess around and get in the bar, they'll be straight.

They got a rest day coming on January the 5th. Hey, you heard what I said, right? They got three games in 10 days. How many days was it before Jesus rose again? It was three, right? Sure. Jesus rose on the third day, right? Yes.

Jesus had 12 disciples, right? Yes. Jesus had twelve disciples, right? Yes. Two of the disciples went up and used the bathroom. How many disciples left? I don't know if they would have been used the bathroom, but okay, yeah. Yeah, two went to the bathroom and it was ten. So you get it? Yeah.

Three games in ten days. God has favor. Fine. There it is. I think Lamar go to church too. I know Jayla go to church cause he always got a cross on his sweatband or so. But hey, look,

they got a tough schedule. They got a very, very tough schedule. You got the Eagles, you got the Ravens. And I mean, think about it, you're on the road, Eagles on the road, Baltimore and home, or your last two gave their home, home Chiefs, home Bengals. They got this in the bag, the Bengals, they got that in the bag to Bengals they got that in the bag also you know it's gonna be good and you know what defense defense gonna carry

him yeah defense yeah and all Russell Wilson has to do is not turn over the ball and they gonna be fine take the foot take care of the football the Saints beat the Giants on a block field goal. Giants fans have had enough of losing. Even before they saw the team drop an eight straight game, a plane flew over MetLife Stadium with the banner imploring ownership to get it together. Mr. Mara, enough, please fix this dumpster fire. Then the team went out there

and found a different way to lose. This time, getting the game-time field goal blocked in the final seconds of a 14 to 11 loss. Mar declined when asked about the plane. Why you declined when asked about the plane? When they asked you about Kaepernick you offered a lot of info. Remember, we're gonna go to Ocho. These Giants are 2-11 and now missed the playoffs 11 of the past 13 seasons. The Giants fell to 0-7 at home this season.

They're averaging 10.1 per game at home. Neighbors said, they asked neighbors about that and he's like, Hey, I ain't play for the Plains. Don't ask me, I ain't play for the Plains. I did not play for the play. He funny. He funny. You know what? They, they, listen, giant fans. Y'all, y'all might as well. Y'all might as well chalk this season up. Cause next year you're going to have, you're going to have a nice quarterback. You're going to have a new, a nice shiny toy. You know, I don't know. I don't know who it's going to be.

I don't know who it's going to be, but it's going to be a nice new shiny toy. And I know a guy that I know a guy that had only roster that was that's playing really well right now. What position you play on quarterback? Geno Smith. Oh, yeah. You know, you know, they they they they they believe in the young bull. You know, sometimes they take it take for you going to somewhere for someone to see your true value. Yeah. It takes some time. You get, it is greener passions on the other side. Uh, Baker Mayfield, Sam Donnell, Gino Smith. Well, Gino wasn't going to be that in New York because they didn't have DK.

They didn't have Jackson Smith and Jigba. They didn't have Lockett. They don't have Noah Fant. They don't have a guy that can run the ball like Walker. They don't have Carbono. Carbono. Carbono. So and look, they and they got their defense is better than you would think. Now, are they the Legion of Boom? No.

But the defense is playing really, really well. And quarterbacks, I mean, look, he got guys that can make plays all over the field for him. It's really that simple. And so I'm glad he's not in New York because they still say the guy can't play and sometimes you need to get somewhere where you got some weapons. Now, he's not a guy, he's not Brady. There have been very few guys that can elevate players. No matter who the player is, he can elevate them. But Gino got to a place that they believed in it, and they got weapon, they got a DK, they got a Jackson Smith and Jigba, they got Lockett, they got skill position players on show that can go make plays.

Same thing with Baker. He got in a situation at Tampa, and what we saw at Carolina, they have nothing. The couple was better. It was even better than what it is right now. But he got someplace that guys can make plays for him and he's playing exceptionally well. Sam Darnall. He got guys that can make plays. I mean, should we be surprised that he didn't make it in Carolina and Baker didn't make it in Carolina? No. Because they didn't have anything there. There's a reason why they got the first pick in the draft. There's a reason why they had to, well why they got the first pick in the draft. There's a reason why they had the first pick, well they got the second pick in the draft,

they traded that to get the first pick, and there's a reason why the following year they had the first pick, they had to live that away, because Chicago traded them the first pick the year before when they were second. But no, can't happen to a night. Hey, I wonder, he said, you know, the fans, we got to make sure the fans, you know, cause you know, the fans were not coming because of the anthem. I wonder how many fans showed up now They stated for the anthem Yeah, none of doing no goddamn anthem man

Moving right along. Hey an anonymous Giants player gave only fans model tickets to flash the sakes during the game fans model tickets to flash the saves during the game. What's he looking like? You ain't got no video? Nah, we got another, we got, uh, today is the night. We got about, we got about 23 more days. Okay, that ain't, that ain't bad. That'd be, we'd be right in January, damn. Yeah, then we can go back to showing videos. Yeah, damn. Yeah. Then we can go back to showing videos. Yeah. Yeah.

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