Club Shay Shay - Nightcap Hour 1: CMC runs ALL OVER the Panthers + Shedeur Sanders OFFICIALLY QB1 & Unc says Kevin Stefanski HATES TO SEE IT + Was Ja’Marr Chase’s APOLOGY SINCERE?

Episode Date: November 25, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the San Francisco 49ers beating the Carolina Panthers on Monday Night football in a sloppy game, Shedeur Sanders has officially been named starter against the San Francisco 49ers next week, and Antonio Pierce says that the Raiders were ready to draft Shedeur when he was head coach and much more! 4:25 - 49ers beat Panthers16:03 - Shedeur Sanders named starter against 49ers next week40:18 - Antonio Pierce: Raiders were ready to draft Shedeur46:11 - Ja’Marr Chase Apologizes for spitting on Jalen Ramsey (Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We've got Kansas City Chiefs running back, Kareem Hunt, joining us a little later. But first, the game that you just witnessed, the 49 has beat the Panthers, 20 to 9, Kristen McCaffrey, against the old team that he used to play for that drafted him as the top 10 pick out of Stanford. CMC had 142 yards from scrimmage. He had 89 of those yards, 24 carries 89 yards, long of 17. team, one touchdown. He had seven catches for 53 yards. So he's on pace, Ocho, to do something that only he,

Roger Craig, and Marshall Falkins ever done, rush and receive 4,000 yards in the single season. All those guys did, those guys did it once. If McAfrey stays on the pace that he's on, he'll do it for the second time. So something very, very special, something bears watching. Oh, here's the 49th schedule.

at Browns Titans at home at Colts Bear Seahawks at home Yeah So they got a pretty nice schedule Yeah They got what is that 1222

So that's a Monday night They got the Colts On Monday night football And then they follow that up NBC at 520 game So that's a That's a Sunday night game So

But this game Ocho Ooh, purdy Hey, it was pretty awful. Listen, not only was pretty awful, though. He threw an exception in the first half. J.C. Horn played out his goddamn mind. The defense played out their goddamn mind.

And the Panthers' offense, it failed us tonight, on? The Panthers' offense failed us tonight. I'm not sure what was wrong with Bryce Young and T. McMillan and some of the receiving Jimmy Horn, but they were off. Their communication, this far into the season, you shouldn't be having mental errors like that or mistakes, mistakes like that, especially in the past game. because he's throwing the players that are running one route

and the players are going a completely different way. Yeah. So a lot of players would miss down on the goal line, Bryce. There was no need to throw that ball. But you got number green grass in front of you.

But Ocho, even if he throw the thing is, you know when you roll out, Ocho, you cut half the field off. So now they're flowing. They know, first of all, down there, Ocho, you're not for going to throw it all way back pylon, you roll into you right.

You've got to release that ball. You don't have to take a full roll because the further you roll, the field get condensed more and more condensed. That's why the guy the front side was able to fall off because you brought the bright side tight in to him. You got to throw that ball earlier. Yeah, right.

But you're going to run out of real estate. Mm-hmm. He didn't, he didn't even have to throw the ball at all. Oh, you wanted to go ahead and run it in, huh? It's nothing but green grass in front of him. Nothing but green grass in front of him. Obviously, his eyes were locked in on, on the receiver, you know, in the back of the end zone outside of that.

this isn't this wasn't panther football tonight this is not this is not the this is not the this is not the Carolina Panthers that we've been watching that have won the last five of their last five of this last seven games they they they lost one tonight but it wasn't good the defense did what they needed to do offense offense left a lot of points a lot of plays out there on the field yeah I thought I thought Carolina got away from the running game a little bit too early they didn't have the ball a whole lot what looked like they had the ball 42 total plays, that's not a whole lot. But when you look at it, Ocho, I think the thing is, is that let's, let's, let's talk to

$40. Yeah. Jennings, when you run, when you run that, that over route, if you gain ground, you're going to allow that cornerback to jet it or undercut you. And that's what he did. The dig route. The dig route. Yes.

Ocho, you can't, you can't run that. No. If you run that route like that, if you gain ground, he's going to jump right up under you. Yeah, especially somebody like J.C. Horn. Yes. Someone that is as sound as him. He has good eyes, good discipline. And he's going to play.

He's going to stay on your inside hip every time. Yes. He rounded by damn there four, five years. I'm like. You got to keep, you got to keep him. Because once I got him there, Ocho, I got to keep him on my hip. Yeah. Because if I let him up underneath on that square, square end.

That's what it's called square. We were trying to lay, what? It's a square in. Square out, squaring. So on that square and, you know, on show. I got to keep him on my hip. Yeah. Because if I give him, if I give him any leeway, he's going to undercut it or he might grab me and slingshot himself. Grab me by my waist, pull himself forward and now he right

there up underneath the throat. And you know what? Another thing that a lot of receivers need to get out of doing too, uncle, when they get to them top of them routes, they doing all that wiggle. They do that wiggle instead of just getting it, getting up to your point and just snapping that thing off. When you play against a good corner, I'm talking about the good ones. And when you do that wiggle, all they do is they stop their feet. So if they stop in their feet and you're sitting there wiggling, he's going to drive on it. Because let me ask you a question, though, Chau.

You can't do that with the good D.Bs. Let me ask you a question. You run a go ball like that? No. So you get to the, you get a 10 yards and now you all of a sudden you're doing this on the go ball. No. Every guy got, it's got to look the same. Every time.

Everything got to be, even if you don't run full speed, give the illusion, give the illusion that you are running full speed. get the way you got to and snap that thing of all them tricks and all that. It works on your average corners. But when you go against the best, the better D.Bs, the J.C. horns, you know, the pass obtained, the Denzel Awards, you're not pulling that off. No, hell, no. They're going to jet that.

Yeah, any indication you give them, they stopping their feet and they're driving. Yes. Because that's the indicator. I mean, you know, you're taught to give an indicator to your quarterback, but you're also giving an indicator to the DB also. McMillan, there's a reason why we say you to keep your arms tight. You see how he got his arms out? What did that DB do, Ocho?

Put tug him. Where he would have been, he hit 27 right in the chest. That's why they tell you to keep your arms tight. Because they're grabbing anything, Ocho. Yeah, always. Always. They're going to grab. And they're not going to call it every goddamn time.

They're not going to call it. They're not going to call it. But this was a really sloppy game. I was surprised how sloppy the game was. Purdy did not look good tonight. 23 or 32, 193, one touchdown, three interceptions. That was just awful. That was just awful.

His defense bailed him out because they got to turn over and then Bryce Young comes right back and gives it right back to him. They got, look, Carolina really has very small margin for error because they're such a young team and they're not, they don't have top five talent at any position on the officer's side of the football. Okay.

So with that being said, you can't do what they did tonight. You can't turn that ball over like. that on the road no you can't you can't especially now with the way the defense is playing you can't keep putting the defense out there on the field putting them in harm's way obviously when they they're getting stops you get in the ball you had turn um they got three points off of three turnovers they got three points off of three turnovers you got you got to get more you got you got to get more than that because they give me the ball back and give you the opportunity to not put the game away

but at least extend the lead enough right have a chance on the back end and they give you and it give you short fields Very sure, yes. You got to get something more than, okay, let's just say for the sake of argument, Ocho, you're only going to get three out of each one. Okay, that's nine points. But you got to come away with three turnovers, you got to come away with more than three points. Something.

You got to. It'll be nice if you cash one of those guys in for a Tud, but three points. And like I said, I just didn't, I thought they ran, I didn't think they ran the ball enough. I mean, you got Dowell back there. You got Chuba Hubbard. Run the football. Yeah. And I know you probably.

thinking about well you know they don't have those past rushers they don't have bosa uh you know warner's not in there there's some things that we can take advantage of they don't have the most outstanding corners run the football yeah run to football that is your that is your friend when you're on the road you need to run the football but the 49ers look the 49ers keep their uh they got to stay attached to the rams and the seahawks eight and four right now so with that's when they leap they leap over Detroit

for the 7th seed now Detroit falls back to the 8th seed but they haven't had their buy yet I think Detroit's had their buy haven't Detroit have their buy

because Detroit's 7 and 4 so that means they had a buy already because the 49ers haven't had there that's why they're 12 Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh, they're like, we might be going to run this thing all the way through. But yeah, it was, it was a sloppy game on you. I expected the 49ers to play a lot, would be a lot crisper than what they were. Hell, I thought Bryce Young, considering what he had came, what he had done. I mean, what that four, four, who that again?

The Falcons? Yeah, they were down 14 and came back. Yeah. And so he had started to play really well. I really like McMillan's game. Macmillan is really good. He can really, really play Ocho. And he's only going to get better.

He's doing this in his rookie season. So I can just imagine in two or three years what he's going to be like. Hell, who knows, he might even take a leap like a, uh, uh, a S. Yeah. Now, I'm not saying, look, that, that's, I'm not saying that's going to happen, but he's on pace to have over 2,000 yards on 125 catches. So he's, he's doing, he's, and he's in that zone right now. I just want to, once you.

Because Ocho, you know when you've got a special season going. Yeah. Everything just seems to go your way. Everything. You catch every deep ball, a caram, you catch it. Everything just, just, is just zin. It's just perfect. Yeah.

What else? Oh, uh, uh, McCaffrey. Oh. Oh, that's why they was fighting, huh? At the end of the game. Oh, okay. Oh, oh, man. What happened?

Jennings. That's why they was fighting at the end of the game, but DB punched him in the, uh, the foul pole. Oh, I missed that. I missed that. Yeah, yeah. That's why at the end of the game? Yeah.

I was, I was setting it up. Oh, that's going to cost him, that's going to cost him a fine. I mean, that's going to probably cost him like 25,000, $50,000. Well, hold on, what kind of fight? We talk about like a, like a little shoving match. Well, he put, Jennings was blocking him, and he, and he, pow. Okay.

So at the end of the game, they got into a little tussle. But, you know, they got cameras. So they see all that. The refs might have not called it, but them 22 cameras they got, they called it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So don't even, hey, save your time. Hey, that Tuesday that you was going to call in to appeal that. Oh, yeah. Go golfing. Don't even waste your time. Yeah, yeah, go golfing because it ain't going to help. But yeah, this was, this was a game I thought would be a little better.

It wasn't clean. I mean, what you get, five, five total turnovers. Sloppy game. Slop a game. But the 49ers win, moved to 8 and 4, Carolina 6 and 6, San Fran 20, Carolina 9. Let's get to something that's a little bit more interesting. Speaking of the Niners, Ocho,

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there's a lot of room for improvement based on this first game there there were there was some things that he did well there were some things that he didn't do well but obviously the most important thing is he won he won the game but based on what we did seeing the potential that he will and can have is is the promise the promise that he can change the dynamic of that offense obviously being able to throw short and intermediate balls being able to check the out check the ball down as well but being able to have the deep ball as a weapon yeah as a weapon just just to just to keep defenses honest so i think that's that's a great thing he's going to have a full week of work with the which is different for him now and he can only improve he can only get better from this

point on going forward so I'm excited for him I'm excited for the Browns organization I'm excited for the Browns fans you know because he I mean Shador gives him hope I'm not saying Dilling Gabriel didn't I'm not saying Joe Flacco didn't but I think he just gives him hope and it's something that everybody wanted to see including the players that are inside that locker room and including the fans I don't think he had a choice in this situation you got to realize they had lost their last 11 games on the run road they hadn't had a start of a win a start in 17 17 different quarterbacks they've had 42 different quarterbacks they've had damn there as many starting quarterbacks as we had

us presidents and you got to go back down there 250 years hell we've only had 47 presidents oh cho yeah they've had 42 starting quarterback since 99 so that's crazy 26 years versus damn near two since over two centuries I don't I don't I don't really know if they had a choice. I don't know, look, I don't know if it was Andrew Barry, if it was Jimmy and D. Haslam. I don't know if it was Stefanski. But he shows sung a different tune today compared to what last night

and what he's been singing all the way up until this. This is a different harmony here. I ain't never heard him sing like this before. This must be auto tunes. Hey, listen, you got to do what you got to do. And I think honestly, honestly, I think that locker room, I think they were to ride. I think the fans, the fans will riot because enough is enough.

I think that the fans are fed up. I think the people inside the organization are fed up. I think the players inside the locker room, this is what they want. So I think DeFansky kind of have his hands maybe tied behind his back, despite this might not be wanting the decision that he wants to make, but he has no choice but to make it at this point, especially with the way they're going. So I'm hoping for the best for DeFansky, that organization, and Shador. All I know is I've never seen Miles Garrett with this happy earlier in the season.

Give me hope. Yeah, that's it. I think the thing is that, look, obviously, when you got a great quarterback, you got the Brady, the Manning, you got the Stafford. You have a, you don't hope, you expect, there's an expect, there's a difference between hoping to win and expecting to win. Win, right now Shador gives them hope. Hopefully as he improves and get better and better, he'll give them an expectation of winning. now some quarterback you like well look here if the defense can hold them to under 17 if we can get a big play here there if we get a strip sack if we can get a punt return touchdown we get a scoop and score all those it now it's hard to consistently win when so many things have to come into play for you to win yeah sure gives them hope that's what he gives them I think the guys believe that they can win the game with him playing that quarterback.

And it's not like he's, I mean, it would be great if he had to score 35, but it's going to be hard for me to see a defense of offense getting 35 on that defense. Now, it's going to be a great matchup because Trent Williams going against Miles Garrett. Hey, that's going to be nice. That's going to be a. Now, Trent's coming off of, he's coming off a major injury after last year. He's watching him, he's not his same dominant self. He's going to have to be on his.

It's best behavior because Miles, we talked about JSCN is in that zone. Yes. You hear players talk about baseball players. They're in the zone and everything slows down and the ball looks so big. Basketball players, the hoop looks so big. Yeah.

Miles Garrett is in the zone. Yeah, absolutely. And listen, I don't think anything going to stop him from getting that record, huh? I don't think anything going to stop. I want him to get 23. I want him to blow it away. I want him to get 25, 26.

I wanted to break the record that when they think about it, like, damn, this man got 26 sacks. No, that's crazy. In a season. That's crazy. Yeah, that's what I want. That's what I want. See, you say, Bo, they break the record about a little bit.

He put it at 9, 5, 8. Oh, yeah. Hey, it's going to be, I don't think anybody going to ever kiss that. No, I don't think so either. Not in my lifetime. No, absolutely not. Unless he got a hurricane blowing behind it. That's the only way somebody going to be.

It's like Flojo's record. What was Flojo a record in 100 again? 1049. Oof. But that's fascinating some men. Yeah. And she did that in 88. That's crazy.

I mean, she obliterated the record. I think Evelyn Ashford had the record at 1076, I think. She, I mean, come on. Right. It's like Usain, Usain took the record from Osafel Powell from 975, to 972 and then went 972 to 969 and then he goes 958. Oh, hold on

958 and celebrating before you even cross the goddamn finish. No, that was no, that was the 969 that he did it to Beijing. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I still believe had he ran through that, that's something that we never going to see. I mean, you have to be on the back of a thoroughbred to beat that time.

Mm-hmm. But it was special. And that's what I want Miles Garrett to do. I want Miles Garrett to obliterate this record because, you know, Gastonog, you know, Gastonole, was complaining about it. People didn't like him.

I don't really know enough about him. That was before my time. He was a part of the New York Slack Exchange. It was him. Dan Cleco, Marty Lyon, Abdul Salon, rest his soul. And Mark Gaston, they would call themselves

the New York Slack Exchange. And then Strayhand got it, and they said, well, Brett Farb gave him that sack, so everybody was being and moaning about that. T.J. Watt tied the record at 22 and a half. So, Miles Garrett, come on to get you about 25, 26, and put this thing to bed. And then, hey, you can kick your heels up because, hey, get 26, because he's on a, I mean, 13 sacks in the last four games. Listen, he's on, he's on a crazy pace right now.

Like you said, yeah, he had a five sack again. He had a five sack, a nine, a four and a three. Five or three and a three. Yeah. Yeah. But, look, I don't think Stefansky really had a choice. I think being going on the road and winning for the first time and God knows how long, playing as well as he did,

he didn't have 300, he didn't need 300 yards. He needed to play well. He needed to show that he can lead an offense. He needed to show that he could push the ball down the field. He need to have command and give those other 50 guys hope and a belief that we can win with him under center. I think he answered. I think he checked all the boxes.

Yeah. If there's some things he can improve on, yes. Of course. And I believe he will. Yeah, of course. But based on what we have seen early in this season, I mean, he ain't looking to just check the ball down. Yeah.

Check the ball down. He's looking to push the ball down the field. Listen, the check down, that's your last resort. Yes. Last resort. Obviously, what I do like from Shador and watching him, not just in college, but actually watching when he gets his opportunity to play, he did it in the preseason, is he will get back there and go through his progression.

He will go through his progression. Obviously, he's not a dual threat. So therefore, he has to be better at everything else when it comes to plan. in the quarterback position. Yes, correct. Yeah, he's not a dual threat. He's a, he's a, he's a Tom Brady. Look, Ocho and I, we're not saying he's Tom Brady,

but he's in that mold because he doesn't have the athleticism that a lot of these modern quarterbacks have today. He's a prototypical dropback quarterback. He's a Byron Leftwich as part of the, because normally we think we look at somebody look like us. Oh, man, that's Lamar. No, he's not. Nope, nope, nope, nope, he's not Lamar.

Mm-mm. No. That is what he is. He's an old school drop, he's Warren Moon. Yeah. That's what he is. Not Randall Cunningham, not Mike Vic, not Lamar Jackson, not Justin Fields, not Cam Newton. He's not Josh, he doesn't have that athleticism.

He's a prototypical dropback quarterback can process information and get the ball out of his hand. Yeah. Yeah. Would I like to see him take less sacks? Yes. Would I like to see him not bubble as much and give up ground? Yes. But that's going to come with.

time and i'm sure the coaches are going to pound that into his head son we don't have to make every play sometimes we got to see the next day yeah let's not move out of field goal range let's make let's make sure we stayed in and third and manageable it's hard to pick up 30 and 18 you might get one of those a game but you're not going consistently make a living pick it up that kind of down and distance but i i expect him to play i expect him to improve on what he did on Sunday although he's stepping up in competition yeah absolutely and listen here i was wrong i was wrong well i was definitely wrong because i was loud i was loud yesterday because i really thought obviously once dylan gabriel clear concussion protocol i definitely thought they were going back to him

you know i was loud and wrong and i was only loud and wrong simply because i understood how they played again i understood what it is they really wanted whether it was the owner it has them whether it was defansky i i saw the games that were being played you know so i thought you know hell when when buddy when he clicked in cussing protocol ain't no way in hell they're going to allow she do it to start the following game but hey they they they proved me wrong yeah they definitely proved me wrong so i mean i'm i'm happy for him i'm listen i'm excited i'm excited i know one i'm i'm not i know one thing i'm gonna be tuned in i'm gonna be tuned in i'm gonna be oh yeah i think everybody's gonna be tuned in yeah i think ocho look

based on the way he played yesterday. And considering they hadn't won a role game in 11. I mean, so it's been so long. Starting quarterbacks, first start with the Browns, hadn't won, 17 up, 17 down, nothing. 42 different starting quarterback since 99. So you can understand that any ray of light, I mean, I guess it's like, you know, if you live in a cold weather climate, Ocho, and the first time in the sun, I'm wearing shorts of the tank talk.

Yeah. And then next day you don't, hey, I ain't seen it. What is that? Barra, Alaska, the sun just set, and it won't come out again until January 22nd of 20206. That's real? Yes. Oh, wait a minute. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Help me explain.

Help me understand something real quick. For anybody that lives in Alaska, chat, y'all can help me out now. Now, do people willingly live in an area where you get light six months and you get dark six months? Mm-hmm. I mean, what's, what's the gist? What's the catch? What's the catch of actually living in that type? Yeah, some of them born there.

What, hey, you mean the kid? The same, they say, yeah, some people, some people are born there. You dead serious? Yeah, for sure. I mean, yeah, sometimes they have daylight for 24 hours. Hey, but, hey, we might need to take a little truth now. No, we don't need to do that. You don't think so?

No. Man, 24 hours, nothing but delay? Mm-hmm. I like that. I like that. I'm trying to think. I went to, was it Ottawa? I'm trying to think what?

I went to Canada. I went to Canada. Uh-huh. For a Canadian football game. Okay. You know, I was, you know, I was walking out at halftime. I flipped, you know, flip the coin. Did something.

Ottawa red blacks. Nah, they were green. Winnipeg. That's what it was. Winterpeg. No, Winnipeg ain't green. Saskatchewan green. I would

Well, maybe I went to Saskatchewan, where did I go? I don't know. I went somewhere. But anyway, I don't think the sun went down the day.

I'll be four o'clock in the morning. I ain't sleep. Because I wait for the sun to go down and I still see the sun, Ocho. It's four o'clock. In the morning. That's crazy work.

That's crazy. Yeah, but it, I mean, I couldn't, I mean, it's hard to say I couldn't, but it takes, get some use to, Ocho. Because we used to sun come up, sun go down. Your body is on a clock.

But just imagine, you get darkness for two months. Ain't no sunlight. It's noon, high noon, and it's midnight. Mm-hmm. No. Hey, I don't want to, listen, honestly. That's why I bet by the way it's Saskatchewan. It was Saskatchewan?

Yeah, I think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand how that's possible. Yeah, I think that's where I went. Yeah, I put my name in there and see if I went to Saskatchewan. Hey, uncle, who you know over there in Canada? Huh? Who you know over there in Canada?

Saskatchewan, that's kind of far. Those that know won't tell. Those that tell won't know. Okay, okay. I don't mean to be in your business, but okay, my bad. Yeah. My bad. No, I just, uh, I mean, I would like to go to Alaska and look around, you know, go fishing.

Fishing? Oh, boy, they got killer whales out there, man. We can go out there where I don't give a damn about no killer whale what I want to go fishing ain't anybody trying to fish man I'm trying to get in the water don't you want to catch them big old salmon yeah yeah but I want we could put on the on the west suit and we can get in the water with the killer whales with the orcas no I don't like being in the water you can't you can't you can't take nub but showers you can't you can't you can't you can't you can't In that water, man.

It's okay. You ain't got to be ashamed. I ain't ashamed. I could go anywhere you go. Oh, no, you can't. No, you can. Go anywhere you go. You can't, unc, I could free dive,

I could be underwater damn there for, five minutes. You cannot do the things I do. I don't need no snorkel. I don't need no tank. That's what I do. I don't have been swimming a couple of times. There you go. There you go.

Oh, see, I try to tell you. I'm talking about how big. swimming in the ocean and you there you go there he go chat now I'm done I'm done I said Lord if you help me if you help me get out of Glenville Georgia I ain't gonna be in no tub no bath tub no foot tub no wife tub I'm done with the tub I ain't took a I ain't took a I ain't took a I ain't took a bath and I don't know 30 plus year 40 years. Yeah, see.

Since I got, I put it like this here. Since I got, since I left, since I left my, well, I got a big garden tub and it, and it got,

uh, it got the, uh, the flower, the potty plant that I got this big. Yeah. It's a morning lily. Got my,

my grandmother flower in there. But I don't take no bad. Like I said, if I want to take a bad thought yo. Yeah. Man, that tub, that ring,

a little like Saturn. Yeah. See, you, you don't know what you're missing. You don't know what I'm missing. Listen, let me, let me tell you something.

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Yep, yep. Get you some music. So that's the only light. The only light is candlelight. That's the only light is the candles. Get you some music. Put the OJ's on. Put the OJ's.

Hell Melvin in the Blue Notes. You know, something like that. Look, Frankie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Had the music playing. Get you some, get you some disditorium. Get you some disdertion. Did you some hell you get dis detergent for.

I ain't watch an audition. No, for the bubbles, for the bubbles, man. Man, get bubble bath. But come on, tell us, come on. Come on, come on. Get your bubble bag. Well, let me get some dogs. Because I'm going to need something to cut through this dirt.

This reason on my black hands. Get you some dawn. Hey, get you some dawn. Hey, music plan. A long night. Think about it. We on nightcap, two out and 30 minutes. You want to relax.

You want a mental reset. Now, you want to take it all in, soak it all in, and prepare yourself to get ready for the next day. Get you a nice book. Get you a nice book. Man, get in that, getting that water, man. Well, you good and sit back and relax for a man by the good hour, two hours. man you're straight man i thought you had something that i thought you had something else for

be playing you're talking about getting oh i would do all that man i wish i might get in a bad tub with some candlelight and some dirt detergent and a damn book oh what the hell is this oh you oh well listen the lady that's that's on you that you can have her but i don't want you don't need nobody to disrupt your peace this is this is this is the moment of peace right now most of the time when you allow somebody in your space at times it disrupts your peace now if you want to want your peace to be disturbed, you could bring a woman with you. Man, this joke will be talking about take a bath with dish detergent. Man, I'll be scratching all day tomorrow.

What's you used? Hold on, you don't, you don't make a bubble bath with Dawn? That's what I used. No, I make a bubble bath with bubble bath. Boy, you know how much bubble bag costs when you could use the goddamn Dawn right out of that. That would I, hey, I tell what you can do. I tell you make some good old, make some good salt, make some good bubbles, or the I

Ivory soap. I know you ain't talking about with ivory soap in a long time. Ivory. I used to be the cheapest soap you could get. That's all we took a bath

where we ain't have no no zast or no iris spring or any, no dove, none of that. Right. Good old ivory soap. Yeah.

They were the only soap that float. So you put it in the bath tub and put in the foot tub and it'd be floating. Right. Yeah. They still sell,

they don't sell ivory soap no more. Yeah, they sell ivory soap. No, they don't. Yeah, they don't. Yeah. I ain't ever heard no ivory. I heard a dove.

Yeah. And y'all better tell him about Irish soap. Hey, you know. Man, ain't nobody had no, ain't nobody have no money to buy no zest, to buy no, what's that other green salt? Dial.

Dial, dumb. Ain't nobody had no money to buy that. Irish, Irish, I remember when Irish came and that guy was saying, whistling. Yeah. Man, I wasn't whistling because I hate to take it a bell. My drummer used to tell me all the time,

boy, I believe you got gold in you. Hey, hey, Ocho, hey, I throw the water up in there and went up under it. I'm done. That was a shower for your boy. Hey, my brother, tell him, granted, that boy, that boy ain't take no bail. Get your blickers and some of the, dude, no, hey, I, why, how come when you was a, when you was a shorty, man, you never wanted to get in the, you never want to take a shower. Oh, man. I don't know what that was, and that's for all kids.

That's for all kids, including, including now, even with mine. Man, come on, y'all, y'all go get together, right? Man, two minutes, they come right back. Wait a minute, you took a shower that fast? No, you didn't. Come here. Let me see behind your ears. Oh, bad.

Look here. Girl, go get in the shower, please. Man, anybody want to take no bad because I scrubbed. I scrubbed. I say, hey, come and wash my back. I go one stroke and say, no, I'm good. Because I scrubbed off. Because, my God, you know, Joe.

Because if you ain't getting it right, hey. You got to take that rug and go around that wrist. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like that right there? Yes, sir. You got to go behind them ears. Yeah.

Hey, grandma taught me about the meas, boy. Get your, get your ass back in that, girl. Hell no. Man, they were doing with the day, little, Joe. But, yeah, they got the ivory soap. Hey, chat, no by the ivory soap. Yeah, I ain't never heard of that. Nah, I don't talk about it, I don't talk about some tides or some stuff like that now.

Tad. You're talking about washing detergent? Yeah. What the hell you get tired from? We had to wash clothes. We had a clothes line and everything. So we had one of, look, we had one of them, before we, you know, we got in the summer me and my brother then was working and stuff, pulled the money together.

We had that washer that was on the back. So it had the tub in the bottom and then you pull the clothes through. Right. To ring them out. See, we had a washing machine like that. And we had a clothes line. Yeah, okay. I know about the clothes line.

had a clothes line when they used to be a Monty house and had to wash clothes and the Scott Projects. Yeah. Auntie, Auntie, Auntie Peaches and Ms. Lisa, while you wash your clothes, you hang them out down the line, you go play. Yeah, but see, right, let's see, we had to put, we had to put, we had to put, we had to put, granted underwear on the fence because she ain't want nobody to ride by and see them. So we had to put them on. Man, don't laugh on, Joe. We had to, we had to put granny, we had to put

granny underwear on the fence. Yeah. And you know, hey, that's another, that's another story. I think about me, spanky, granite, pop, pop, liby, uh, Gladys, Jane, Sherman Dean. All them got clothes. Yeah. So can you imagine, man, we had to have sticks up at a hold of clothes line because it would wait the clothes line down. Next day you know, clothes on the ground.

Right. Now you got to wash it all over again. Got to wash them all over again. But those were the old days. I remember they have, we have to, uh, had the ball water and you watched them in a big, I don't tell you, y'all, y'all, that was back in the 80th. Wash him in that big ass pot. If you, if you, my age or older, you know exactly what I'm talking about.

I bet you, I bet you, I bet you, I bet your grandma, I'm going to tell you what my grandma had me do. I bet you ain't had to do this, though. Where there? My white socks. Yeah. If I get caught walking with my white socks outside, knowing I ain't supposed to be outside with them, my grandma had a little washboard, you know, the little washboard.

Yeah. Man, I had to get them socks, man, and rub and rub the black out on the washboard. then yeah but yeah the washboard the wood with the with the uh with the uh with the yes yes it looked like it looked like it looked like you could peel tomatoes with it yeah oh joe you couldn't walk around it forget outside when you came home you had to take your suit you had to take your socks off you had school clothes you had play clothes yeah okay oh yeah I had the same program yeah you came home you got out of your school clothes yeah got in your play clothes Well, and then I was the barefoot king.

Now, my brother, he ain't never go barefoot. Now, I don't walk around. I get up and go to the bathroom in the middle of the night. I put on crocs. You put on shoes? Yeah, I can't walk around barefoot. I can't do it. I'll have him some good days.

Hell, if I go to the beach, I'm going to have on me some crocs. The beach? No, but the beach. You got to go barefooting at the beach? In the sand, yeah. Oh, no. Yeah, you can't, hey, how are you going to move? How are you going to walk with crocs on in the sand?

Oh. That's like, that's a, that's a, that's a work, that's a workout in itself. Oh, okay. Tell me, let me know, Ocho, let me know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, but me, Antonio Pierce says, had he not been fired, he and ownership were in sync and wanted to draft Shadur Sanders. He says Shadour wouldn't have fallen to the fifth round.

He said Shadu was born to play football. He was one of our top choices. Mark Davis was on board. We believed in what we saw. He was born for this. If I would have stayed there, there's no way he goes in the fifth round. Ocho, what is your reaction to AP saying that had he stayed there,

he and Mark Davis was in locked and step to take Sjour, and there's no way he goes in the fifth round? I mean, that's dope. Obviously, coming from Antonio Pierce, that's coming from someone with credibility, someone that's been not only played the game, but coaching the game for a very long time. So he would have inside source in knowing exactly not only what happened

when it comes to the collusion of him falling to the fifth round, but understand that if he was still the coach of the Oakland Raiders of the Las Vegas Raiders he would have been the pick they would have taken because he wasn't a fifth round pick based on Woody showed in college and I believe him

honestly because he wouldn't just come out here and make up a story like that you know pull it out his ass so I mean it's dope it's just unfortunate that wasn't the case and he got to get it the hard way he got to get it out the mud it wasn't given to him so when he does

reach that status and get that respect that he deserves, it will be earned. It won't be given. Well, I think the thing is, look, when Pete Carroll came in there, Pete Carroll was very familiar with who? Gino Smith. Gino Smith in Seattle, of course.

So he says, okay, I want Gino. And, you know, that happens a lot of time. Normally when the head coach comes, he want his guys. General manager, won't their guy. Yeah. So Mark Davis allowed him to get, Mark Davis didn't want to fire John Gruden.

NFL didn't really give him no, didn't really give him a whole lot of choice in the matter. But so now they've kind of been in the tailspin every sense. Yeah. It's, it's, uh, AP seems to think there, there are, there are powers at play that had more to do with this than,

you know, you know, I'm not here. I'm not here. speak on that but we on there there there's certain buttons that are that are pushed in no matter who you are okay this is what it's going to be all y'all get in line or it's going to be a problem right i mean it that's way above our pay grade i'm talking about way above yeah then you would never we would never allow anyone no matter how big they may seem or may think they are nobody's bigger than

our program never that and we're going to show you we can we still control never mind you know i'm Yeah, I mean, I was surprised that giving Brady, Brady had worked with your door. Look, at the end of the day, this is a business. We understand that. Friends is friends. We can set things aside with you. Yeah. Friends is friend.

Business is business. But I was surprised that given that he had worked with Shador on numerous occasions before, when he did, you know, this is Brady time. This is the time that, you know, you go win plays and you go make plays and you win games. I was surprised, considering that they needed a quarterback. Let's just say for the sake of argument, you get Gino. Is Gino really the guy that you think you're going to keep at quarterback for 10 years, Ocho?

No, he's not. Gino, I was happy for Gino that he got the opportunity to revive his career in Seattle and end up going to the Pro Bowl, put up some big numbers. Gino played well because it just didn't work out for him with the Jets for whatever reason. And sometimes it happens like that. Sometimes we go to the first location, we go to the first job, It doesn't work there. We go to another job and we're happy ever after.

But for whatever reason, it didn't work out, but he got a chance to go to Seattle. Pete gets relieved of his duty. Pete's goals to Las Vegas. And, you know, he wants Gino, a quarterback that he's familiar with, a system that he's familiar with. But I was surprised that, you know, I agree with you.

Based on what I saw, just my eye test, it's hard for me to believe that Shudor is a fifth round pick based on what he's done. Just those two years. If you want a discount, what he did at Jackson State, right okay fine you shouldn't but i get it well that's that level of competition x y and z i get all that but based on just what he did in college at see you that's probably at the latest the third round pick i ain't say you got to take him top five i ain't say okay you say you're not uh there's some things

that that that you don't see the significant upside the high the balled ceiling okay but it's hard for me to see a scenario that he's not at least a third round pick based on what he had done those two years at CU but now he gets his opportunity and we'll see what he well he made the most of the situation that he had Sunday let's see if he can just improve on that and get better and better and then hopefully you know hey this offseason he gets an opportunity to go work and he can better better better better better more familiar with the system he got a whole offseason to work I think he can do something really really good Absolutely.

Hey, matter of fact, I just thought about another scenario. What happened? Well, that boy over there with that star on his helmet. You know, come on, come on down near the Cleveland now. Who started, oh, oh, pick? Yeah. Yeah, they, listen, all you needed one, all you needed one good dog now. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Hey, chat what y'all think? You know, and I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I always want what's best for pick, huh? For sure. Get exactly what he won't. Yeah. All right. But anyway. Ocho, Jamar Chase, to apologize today for spitting at Steelers, uh, defensive back Jalen Ramsey, on IG.

Um, he posted to my team, fans, the Bengals organization, the Steelers organization, the NFL community. Please know I'm speaking from my heart when I say I take full response. for my actions last Sunday's game at Pittsburgh. What I did was wrong. The circumstances don't matter. My passion for the game is no excuse. There's zero place in the sport or in life

for this level of disrespect. I want to personally apologize to everyone within the Pittsburgh Steelers organization. I let my emotions in the moment get the better of me and I can only hope and trust you know none of it represents who I am. Not as a competitor, not as a teammate or a person. I want to apologize to my coaches, teammates,

coaches, teammates, and organizations for not meeting my own standard as a leader of this team. This has been one tough season with some incredibly hard losses. We've all been frustrated, but in 10, instead of stepping up with calm, class, and leadership, I let you down. My having to sit out yesterday game make my actions even more inexcusable. I won't let it happen again. Finally, I want to apologize to my fans. I do not take anyone who wears the jersey for granted.

I take my position as a role model. I do not take my position as a role model lightly. As someone who strives to lead with character and authenticity, I should have taken immediate accountability for what happened. I am committed to earning back your respect, not with just words, but with my actions day after day on and off the field. I promise to keep learning from this

and set higher standards for myself moving forward. With respect, Jamar Chase. I like it. I just wish, Ocho, I like it too, but I wish he to personally said, Jalen Ramsey. Yeah. I'm sorry. Listen, even if he didn't say that,

he might not have said that publicly in that letter. I like that. That was very tasteful. That was very tasteful. What happened in that situation was totally, was totally uncharacteristic of who that individual is. Emotions got the best of him. Yes.

I guarantee you this. I guarantee you this. I already talked to Chase too. Now, I talked to him one time and I let it go. Listen, young bull, take your punishment. Say your sorries. Get your apologies out the way and come back even better. Lock in and focus and do what you need to do.

I guarantee you he called Jalen Ramsey. I guarantee you. I guarantee he called him personally and apologized to him. Because if he didn't, well, that's good enough for me then. After this came out, I guarantee you Ramsey would have said something about it. I guarantee you would. But I know he did.

I know, I know, I can feel it. I can feel it. I just know he did because that's the type of duty is. Ocho, but you put all of these other people in there. Why not put Ramsey? in there because he did it on his own man the man on the phone hey bro listen man it's it's hard ohcho when you do it like that it's hard because the person that you disrespected the most you didn't mention him publicly you talked about you talked about Cincinnati you talked about

the fans you talk about the Steelers organization and the guy that you actually did that too he doesn't get the and I get it I get what you said maybe behind the scenes but ohcho he put this in a letter he put this on a post yeah and I commend you chase I commend you you kudos it was a mistake you let your emotions get the best of you when emotions a high logic is low and you said some things and we saw it in real time I don't think he thought that the that the cameras caught it but chase it's hard now bro to do anything without it being the revolution will always be televised moving forward yeah but that's all that's a look and I don't want to nitpick

because I believe sincerely and genuinely but there's a there's an art to apologize in order to get the full in order to have the full effect of an apology. Now change behavior is the greatest apology. Oh wait, whoa, whoa, whoa. I agree with you. Wait a minute. Go ahead. Now, I heard you say change behavior.

Now, what I do won't, and I hope Chase see this, still be yourself. Don't change you on that field. Do not lose the fucking edge that makes you you. I understand the mistake you made. I understand that far. Yeah, just don't go over the edge. You can have that edge. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't go overboard. But do not lose the edge and what makes you special because now you think you have to conduct yourself like a goddamn choir boy.

That's not what the fuck we fin it. I'm sorry. That's not what we finna do. Absolutely not. You continue to remain that same dog, that same edge, that same confidence that you carry wearing that goddamn one. I know you got that scene on your chest, but don't lose what makes you special. Continue to play with that same edge. You made a mistake.

You apologize for it. I'm sure you talk to Ramsey and apologize to him, even though Unk and others might want it to be publicly, you know, that apology to be public to him, but, but I, this is, I, I say, I, I said this and I, and I believe it at the time. I said he's going to apologize because he's going to see what we saw, what the world saw. Now, he can hide around and say, well, you know, because I don't think he thought

nobody saw it, Ocho, he didn't. Yeah. And I get it. I get it. Like I said, when emotion is high, logic is low. Yeah. But all I'm saying, look, and I know, Chad, I might be nitpicking. But I just wish he would have mentioned Rambley, Ram, uh, Ram, Jalen and to Jalen Ramsey and his family.

I would like to personally apologize to you. And maybe you're right. Maybe he's done that off camera and I'm cool. And after this, after we address this tonight, I'm done what I won't have anything else to say about it. But I'm just saying, I just think, I just think for me an apology. I got at least, I got to at least, at least, at least, apologize to the party that I offended. I understand organizations.

I understand the NFL. I understand the Bengals. I understand the NFL. I understand the Steelers organization. I understand the fans. But the guy that this act happened too. Yeah, but dudes ain't worried about that.

I mean, you're thinking as in your position, we talk about players, players ain't worried about, oh, you need to apologize to me publicly. No, excuse me. The boys ain't worried about that. Hey, man, hey, bro.

Man, listen, man. No, it's, I'm telling you, I'm telling you how they think. They ain't worried about no, No public apology. Man, brunt hit my line. He apologized. Hey, man, listen, we squashing it.

I'm going to see when we play all in three more weeks. Case closed. Ocho, let me ask you this. You do real apology is not for the individual. It's for you. That's personal. It's not the apology because the act is already done. You just need to apologize so you can move forward.

I guarantee, like I said, I'm going to take you at your word that he possibly probably called Ram? I know he did. I know he did. I promise you. I'm telling you he did. But I'm just saying knowing, knowing Ramsey.

Hold on. Not knowing Ramsey too. You know, just knowing how them boys think, knowing how they act. And they ain't worried about, oh, he apologized to me. They ain't okay nothing about that.

Man, young bull, man hit my line. Hey, bro, listen. I don't know, there are certain things that I can, I mean, I think there's certain things that you don't have to do, but something as disrespectful as that.

And we started to see an escalation of this, not just at the professional level, but we saw it at college the other night too. I'm like, when, like I said, maybe it was the cat, maybe this happened a lot when we played and the cameras weren't there to catch it. Maybe that's what happened, oh, maybe that's what happened. But they, listen, they not, they built different. They ain't worried about that, you know, if there was an issue, there's a problem and they handle a little different. They ain't worry about, no, you know, saying it publicly and all that. Well, then, why did he apologize then?

If he wasn't worried about none of that, why did he apologize in his letter? I'm saying, you speaking on it, having him not mentioning Ramsey's name, when Ramsey probably didn't worry about no goddamn letter, when I'm telling you, buddy probably hit him, hit his line. I'm telling you. But I'm just saying, I mean, it's hard to have a published apology when the party that was offended doesn't get mentioned. That's all I'm saying.

We can move on. We're going to agree to disagree on that one. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying, No, Joe. I'm not trying to belabor the point, but I'm saying, the offended party didn't get mentioned. He mentioned the party's team that they played for. They mentioned the league that they played in.

He mentioned the team. He mentioned his fans around the NFL. But the party that was offended doesn't get mentioned. That's the only thing I'm saying. And chat, maybe I'm being, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe I'm being a little extra. Yeah. Maybe I'm being extra. A little bit, a little bit, a little bit.

A little bit. Hey, when they play again, when they play again. Uh, when did they play again? Two weeks? Oh, they play Thursday. They play Thanksgiving. No, they play the Ravens. They play the Ravens.

They just played the Steelers, right? They got to, they got one. That was okay, they're done. Oh, that's it. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So we go, hey, Chase, like I said,

I had a few interaction with you, bro, have the utmost respect. Emotions got the best of you. Hey, just move forward. Learn from this mistake. Don't let it happen again. Keep your head up, chest out. Keep moving forward.

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