Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Coach Prime deserves credit, LSU upset by Georgia, Jeanty vs. Hunter

Episode Date: November 17, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson discuss Deion “Coach Prime” Sanders, Shedeur Sanders, Travis Hunter and the #17 Colorado Buffaloes impressive performance vs. Utah. Later, Unc and Ocho react to Travis Hunter being the Heisman favorite, rip the Coach Prime naysayers, react the Carson Beck and the #12 Georgia Bulldogs rallying to beat the #7 Tennessee Volunteers in an SEC showdown, debate if Boise State RB Ashton Jeanty or Colorado Buffaloes 2-way player Travis Hunter should win the Heisman trophy and much more!03:50 - Show start04:13 - Intro05:56 - UGA wins 31-17 over Tennessee08:24 - CU beats Utah29:43 - Florida v LSU37:47 - Oregon v Wisconsin44:40 - Ashton Jeanty50:17 - Money Williams and sister raising younger siblings after parents’ death53:00 - Jerry Jones believes Witten could be an NFL head coach54:44 - Larry Csonka1:00:55 - Seahawks planned to draft Deebo and Metcalf in 20191:02:12 - Netflix boxing Paul v Tyson(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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takes down the number seven Tennessee volunteers by the score 31-17 The Bulldogs rally from a 10-0 second half second quarter deficit Thanks to 346 yards and two touchdown passes through the air one rushing score by Beck Yeah, security way and move them back into the CF college football playoff selection committee bracket after they had fell out after 28 10 lost to Ole Miss. Tennessee first three possessions in the second half ended in a punt. Well it's really simple for the Bulldogs. Yes sir. When they take care of the football. Yeah. They're as good as any team in the country. Yeah. When they don't they can get their ass whooped

by any team in the country. Most definitely. I mean from the previous game that I've watched Georgia play it all came down to Beck, it all came down to the quarterback. And when the quarterback, it was Bismill and he turned the ball over. Those are the games that they happen to lose tonight. No turnovers. They played well. Now Tennessee did keep the game close for the majority of the game.

From what I saw after I landed, obviously I tried to watch as much as I could when I was on the plane traveling from Cork from Boulder, you know, to Cincinnati. So, I mean, it was, it was kind of close. And then obviously, at some point, the better team, you know, they ran away with the game. Yeah. Yeah. If you go back and still look at Georgia, there are three games and there are two games, I know, and I think back to back, right, back through three other sessions and they still

won those games because they're the mortality of the team. But when you play teams that's on your level and you turn the ball over, you get beat, a la Alabama, a la Ole Miss. And so that's, and you know, they make it to the college football playoffs, clearly all those teams will be on their level. As long as he takes care of the football, they have a chance to go very, very far. When he doesn't, he plays down to their level, maybe even underneath their level. You can get beat. But the Bulldogs seem to be right in the wrong of last week as they win 31-17 over Tennessee. Tennessee looked good early on in the game. But like you said, Ocho, in a 17-17 ball game coming out of the half,

you want to try to get some momentum and they couldn't get anything going. Yeah. Uh, uh, points three, uh, first, second half points to start it. And Georgia got the lead and didn't look back. And so, uh, give the Bulldogs credit, give Kirby smart credit for having his team ready to play. Uh, you know, they're going to be tough to beat, uh, at night between the hedges and, uh, they come away with a 14 point win over the Tennessee volunteers by the score of 31 to 17. Number 17 Colorado continues to roll as they beat Utah 49 to 24. Travis Hunter resided again, uh, was added again, plays both sides of the ball.

He had an interception and he had a touchdown run. His stat line five catches 55 yards, one carry five yards, a touchdown, three tackles and interception and he passed a touchdown run his stat line five catches 55 yards one carry five yards a touchdown three tackles an interception any Pass breakup. Yeah, well Joe what other college player, you know can put up a stat line like that Travis is now the Heisman favorite according to DraftKings Sportsbook The Heisman front runner is now just 89 yards shot of 1000 receiving yards this season Also, would you look at this game you was there? Yeah, think this season. Um, oh, so when you look at this game, you were there. Yeah. Think about this.

Yes, sir. They had three turnovers and they put up 49. Yeah. Oh yeah. So that tells me that's another 10. Let's just say for the sake of argument, that's another 10 to 14 points. So you're looking at a 59. You might be even looking at a 63 point game

minus those turnovers. I thought Shadour started off a little shaky early, but he got it going. Right. And that's what, that's the mark of a great player. Ocho. When you can't play, when you can play, you struggle early. You don't play your best football early, but you turn around and you look at the stats, you're like, hold on. That man was 30 and 41 for three 43 touchdowns. Yeah, he was. Yeah, but there was, but there was a long lull in between that though. Yes. Long lull in between that.

And I remember being in the team meetings yesterday. Obviously, let me talk about my experience in Boulder for one. I want to thank Deon Sanders. I want to thank Prime. I want to thank obviously the Colorado staff, the players, the program in general and for the house fatality. They wrote, they wrote, they rolled the red, and for the, for the hospitality, uh, they wrote, they wrote, they rolled the red carpet out for you, for your boy. You know, I rarely go anywhere.

So I had a Saturday off, I had the opportunity to go out there and it was, it was, it was unbelievable, unbelievable. Obviously I think my last time in Denver, I remember John Lynch was the safety for the Broncos and I think champ might have still been there if I'm not mistaken Now that's how long that's how long has been since I've been there So I didn't know what to expect and um, it was it was just as beautiful as I remember from back then anyway onto the game The first quarter I remember in the team meeting room one of the first things prime talked about that It was the off of the coordinator. I want 14 points in the first quarter. I want 14 points in the first quarter. I don't want any turnovers.

They got the 14 points in the first quarter. They did have a turnover on the first possession, you know, outside of that. There was a law in the game, I think maybe between the second and third quarter at some point, they got it. They got it going a little bit, a little bit, but there was too much talent in it. And I hate when they allow teams to stay around too long. Yes, yes, we talked about that last week, Retro. They're not around too long, man. There's no reason Utah should be able to hang around that long and make the game look as close as it was.

I love how now all of a sudden the conference isn't. Now when Deon was getting beat last year, everybody was talking about it. I thought, I told y'all, I told y'all, now they winning, oh, the conference ain't any good. Oh, Utah on their third quarterback, what did they do? So is every team that they beat on their third string quarterback?

Right, right. Is every team they played isn't any good? Because it seems that that seems to be the narrative that y'all wanna paint. Y'all can do anything y'all can to try to undermine, undermine the man's credibility in what he's been able to do. You're talking about a team that was two years ago. They won one game.

Last year they won four games and all y'all was y'all. You had your pom poms. You had your skirt up in the air kicking your heels. I thought you was the Rockets celebrating. Now you're going radio silent. Now you're talking about the only third screen quarterback, but had they lost, what would you have seen? I told y'all the Colorado is the good, I told you Deon can't coach you made that excuse. Well Shadura is not any good. He's at Jackson State. He wouldn't be doing that at a pound five but that day he's doing it at a pound five. O'Pryne can't coach. He's doing it at HBCU. When he's doing it at CU he's doing it at a pound five.

Now the conference isn't any good. Yeah. Yeah. I've never seen. I've never seen it. So that you'll do any that people would try to say and do anything they can to try to under man's undermine a man's credibility, his ability to do what he's done with the team. He told y'all he said we coming give us some time. But y'all want the man Nick Saban didn't go to the college football playoff. He didn't go to the national championship game. It's first year. Yeah. Y'all gave him grace. Y'all didn't say when he was started winning older teams ain't any good. So why y'all do that with time?

Well, you know why? You know why? And for one, you have to think prime marches to the beat of his own drum. Prime has his own style of coaching. Prime doesn't follow the script on the way coaches should act and behave in a certain manner. He does it the way and it works the way he does it. Everything he does, you have to think about Prime from whether it's the football field, whether it's playing baseball, whether it's playing football, whether it's coaching, everything

he does and touches, it turns the goal and has success coming right behind it. Sometimes it might take a little bit. It might take a little time, but in Colorado's instance, for example, Hey, I'm Danny 30. Yeah. He doesn't even turn a collegiate program around two years. Yes. Well, you know how, I don't think you understand how difficult that is to do. How you goes, how you supposed, how you going to get players to come to bowl of Colorado?

Because a lot of times those who you got to get your, gotta get your, you have to get your type of player. You know the type of player that you want. Right. Okay, this is the type of player I want as a wide receiver. These are the type of running backs that I'm looking for. These are the type of O'Liaman, these are the type of D'Liaman, these are the type of skill position players that I'm looking for.

And you might have a few on your roster, but when you go one and 12, ain't a whole lot of good-ass players on that rock I'm just gonna tell you like any of I mean you got one in 12 Yeah, there's a there's not a whole lot of good players on that rock and so he basically had to flip the roster Yeah, and he didn't do it. He had to go through the portal. Not difficult that is though. Yeah People saying one in 12 and then you have to deal, then you have to deal and think, we in the NIL era.

We in the NIL era. So that's even that much more difficult to compete with the teams or the schools or the boosters. Because see you ain't got that NIL money. Not like that. I mean they have some, but they're not competing with the SEC teams. They're not competing with the big 10 teams.

They don't have that kind of money. you look at the face the top 20 programs They're not even close to that kind of paper. Right? Right. Right. It's different. It's different And so when you look at I look I'm just I'm happy for him. Yeah, I'm biased I've known him 30 plus years. He was in my Hall of Fame class I'm you know, we work together and so I have a great relationship with it, but I don't have a problem giving somebody credit. Yeah. I think that's what you should do. If somebody you don't give them, you don't give them what they deserve. You give them what they earn.

I think he's eight and two. Yeah. Six and one in the conference, no matter what. So. The conference isn't any good. So why the hell did they pick them to finish there and second to last in the conference if it ain't any good. So why the hell they picked them to finish second to last in the conference if it ain't no good. They said they'd be lucky to win four games. They're gonna finish second to last in the conference.

In that bad conference, that y'all say bad, they will pick to finish second to last. Now they're tied for first in the conference, now what? Yeah, listen, they, whoever they may be, will always continue to discredit Deon because of who he is. Yeah. They don't like to.

It's because of who he is, that's all. Cause if it was anybody else that was able to do something like this, of this magnitude in such a short amount of time, the praises would be just as high. The praises would be just as high because, oh my goodness, you know how you how impossible it is to do something like this at a program in such a short amount

of time is commendable, nobody wants to sing him his praises simply because it's him. Take out the personal vendetta that you might have against Dion and give the man his credit that he deserves for what he's been able to do. Sometimes people have a problem with a black man being outspoken. Wait a minute. Well, let me give a pen and paper because I know you're going so well. I know you're going so over this.

You know how it is, Ocho. Yeah, yeah. We're supposed to be humble. We're supposed to be thankful that we just got an opportunity to do that. How dare you speak and be so boisterous? How dare you be so outspoken? Oh, man. Why you can't be coach like? Why you gotta have

chains? Why you gotta have prime on your sleeve? Yeah. Why you gotta have a cowboy hat when you do interviews? Yes sir. Yeah. If you qualify for the position, right? If you qualify for the position to be a leader of men, to be a head coach. And you know, you got a little melanin. You have to qualify and be times 10 or greater. Yes. Your counterparts, you. Let me let me let me go somewhere real quick. Think about Obama as a president.

Yeah. Obama has to be not only qualified, but he has to speak his way. He has to carry his way. He can't have none of the shenanigans that 45 is able to get away with. Oh, that's not rolling. Can't wear a brown suit. You can't have a cup of coffee in your hand

when you're going to Air Force One because you gotta be able to salute the military and our hands need to be empty. We get all of that. We understand that. Yeah. But let me ask you this. Let's just say for the sake of argument. And that's what we're doing here.

We're having a conversation. Let's play devil's advocate. Let's just say Coach Prime would talk to his players and do his players. What what Kelly? Brian Kelly does to his players at LSU. What would be saying it? It'd be but it'd be the headline story. It'd be the headline story. He can't get away with that. You understand? He doesn't have the, listen, he doesn't have the complexion for the protection.

There's certain things that he can and can't do. Now he would get chastised for that type of coaching. Of course. Now I'm not sure if Brian Kelly's hit, if Brian Kelly's history is that of screaming at best his history. Okay. He's done it everywhere he's been. Okay.

So that, that, that's him. Then, then, then people would be, be used to that in that style of coaching, but prime can't do that. How have prime not been like he's been everywhere he's been? How you think he got the name prime time? Right, right, right. Somebody just magically came out his butt. He been calling himself prime time since 87.

Right. Damn near 40 years. He's been this way. Did you not see him on draft? Did you not hear the story about he went, I've got the team one to interview it. You ask him, where y'all picking? They said such a fuck, well, I ain't gonna be there.

He got up and walked out. He did it down the ride at the combine. Had everybody like, man, you gonna run? He comes in, takes his sweats off, takes, runs, four two. And out of there. And left. And left.

Hey, that's funny. Yes. They know exactly who he is, but this is what happens when you don't conform. This is what happens when you don't conform to the way they think you should be once you're in a position of power. Yes. A leader of young men.

They want you to conform and do it in a structured, organized environment, like a guy. Do it like we do. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. That's not prime. And it's never been primed. Never had.

Never. It is not going to be here. He's going to, he, he has a way that resonates with the kids today. He talks to them in a language in which they understand. Yeah. And he gives it to them in the most simplistic terms because how you do some things is how you do all things. And football is a microcosm of life.

He said, I'm not just trying to, I'm just not trying to put guys in the NFL. I'm trying to make great husbands. I'm trying to make great community men. I'm trying to make great leaders. So at the end of the day, yes, I want all my players to graduate because I understand all of them are not going to the NFL.

But in whatever they choose in their life, I want to make sure they're successful and I wanna make sure I've given them the tools in which they can use to become successful. But somehow people, you know, if I don't like you, because here is that it's fruit of the pores in the tree. Yeah.

If I don't like the tree, any fruit that it bears, I don't like it either. Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. I heard something I ain't never heard before. Say that again. It's fruit of the poison. It's a criminal justice term. Okay, the fruit of the poison is the root of the tree?

No, I said it's the fruit of the poison is tree. So if a tree is bad, any fruit that it bears. So if I don't like Coach Prime, anything he touches, I got a problem with. I got a problem with CU. I had a problem with Jackson State. I had a problem with Trinity Academy. I got a problem with Jadour.

I got a problem with Trav. I have a question. Now, what I don't want to happen is that I don't want those that are in positions of power who are able to make certain decisions. Let's say for instance, I mean not Hall of Fame voters, voters for the Heisman. I don't want voters that are voting for the Heisman to allow their hatred or their dislike for Prime and his coaching style and the way he carries himself and the way he conducts himself and the way he coaches

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Try them for free at wasabi.com. I personally thank Ocho. They realize that they're looking at the best player that they've seen in college football in an extremely long time. The amount of snaps that he plays, the impact that he has on both sides of the football, not only offensively but defensively, he can flip the game just like that. The catch that he made, the touchdown run that he had, the pick that he had. There have only been a few guys like that. Yes, sir. They were like.

Like when I played, there are a few guys that I stood up and watched. Barrett Sanders, when Barrett Sanders was on the field, you didn't stand up. You stood up and watch because you want to do what Jerry Rice. There are a few guys that when they came and you you had to see that you needed to see it and the Jumbotron wouldn't do it justice. You needed to see it for yourself with your own two eyes watching that man do what he does. Yeah. Go ahead.

Where were you when Peter work was that Florida State? I was in the league. Where were you when Randy Moss was that marshal? I was in the league. Where were you when Tavon Austin was at West Virginia? Yeah. I was, uh, we played, we played, hold on. We played, I played Randy in 2001 and I played him when I went back to Denver.

Um, but you know, you, you realize that, you know, you realized that it was special. He could do things that very few people, if not any, could ever do. His God given ability, he could run fast. You know, I heard Coach Saban say something today. It was a lot of the great coaches. I think it was Coach Belichick, it was Coach Saban, it was Coach K, and it was somebody else.

I forget who it was. And Coach Saban said, talent isn't talent unless you can use it. Wait, say it again. Get him on the time. Talent isn't talent if you can't use it. Because how many times got or show we've seen guys have talent. Right. What do you do it on the corner? Yeah. Yeah.

They can play basketball. They can run that football, catch the football, throw the football. They can play basketball. They can run that football, catch the football, throw the football. They can play basketball. Yeah. They choose that. They choose in the wrong. I gave you that ability and for you to squander it. Right. Is to to not take advantage of a gift To not take advantage of a gift Is demeaning yeah You have that ability right and to abuse it

but coach Congratulations, oh yeah in his postgame news conference time had this message for the Heisman voters He said don't allow their hatred for me to interfere with our kids success They got to stop that y'all got a y'all got to stop some of y'all like that. Y'all got to stop that man. Give these kids what they deserve. Man. I had my turn.

I played 14 years. Yeah. They have 14 years to hate me. Now let it go. Let it go. Yeah. Oh yeah. Let it go.

But they say, well, you know how they are, but this Let it go. But they won't. You know how they are. But this is the thing. Brother 12 is going to extend himself so far ahead in the Heisman race, they're not going to have a choice but to bless him. They're not going to have a choice. They ain't going to have no choice.

We've seen stuff like this, but not to this extent. He's doing something special that's never been done before. You can't take that away from him. No. You can't take that away from him. That young bull got the anointing, man. He got that oil on him. I know it's not Sunday, but I'm not going to preach tonight, but I'm going to save it for tomorrow's show. He's special. There's no for tomorrow show. He's special.

There's no there's no question about it. He's special. You just want to try to get the ball and hear time talk like, hey, you try to get the ball in his hands without disrupting your offense. Yes, sir. Because you can, you know, sometimes you can feed the ball and you get all the other guys.

Now, he's just standing around watching. And then when it's their time, they're like, well, hell, I spent the last quarter and a half watching y'all get the ball to Trav. So I think Pat does a great job of spreading the ball around. I think Shadour does a great job. I think Pat does a great job of calling plays.

Shadour does a great job of spreading the ball around. You see Shepard has an unbelievable, have two unbelievable catches. You see Shepard has an unbelievable, have two unbelievable catches. You see Webster and then Trav. Trav had a quiet day receiving, but he made a big fourth down catch. He got a huge passing appearance call. So those are the things that, you know,

that goes unnoticed because he didn't score points, Coach O, but we understand it was fourth and five and he caught a big first down that put him at the six yard line next play to throw the ball to Shepard. We see the passing affairs that they had that they got that he got called. So hold on. What about the 50 50 ball he caught in between two players? Yeah, that's that.

That was on fourth down. That was four down. Yes. Yes. They went for the fourth down. Man. Yeah he nice too. Oh yeah, for sure. And so that's what I, I love that about Pat doing

a great job of calling plays and Shadour doing a great job of spinning the football. Guys played well to get Miller. You think about it, Miller had six for a buck and eight in the touchdown. Webster, 10 for 77. But hey, at the big punt return, remember Ocho, he had a punt return.

He almost got loose on the kickoff return. But the punt return, he said, okay, y'all keep on playing with me. Sheppard had five for 71, two touches. Trav had five for 55. But this is what we know. If they can protect Shador just a little, he can flat out spin it. Man, little, he can flat out spin it.

Man, listen. He can flat out spin it. If you give him any time, he gonna kill you. You can run man, you can run zone. He's able to read everything regardless, defensively. Give him three seconds. Matter of fact, give him 2.5, depending on who you're playing.

Because as the competition gets a little better, as the competition gets a little better, as the competition gets a little better, especially if you talk about playing in the big 12 championship, you're gonna need that goddamn offensive line as stout as possible. Florida defeats LSU 27-16, Brian Kelly goes in on Chris Hinton Jr.

Hold on, that Chris Hinton, like his dad was an office alignment. He was a part of the trade for Elway. If that if that's Chris, I think that might be Chris Hinton's son. But he's a part of the trade in 84 in 83. You said he was Hilton. I thought he was Hinton Chris Hilton Jr. On the sideline after he missed time to jump on a deep ball. BF in coachable.

Who the F do you think you are? LSU third straight loss. LSU lost to Florida for the first time since 2018. This came despite running 92 plays and having the ball for more than 41 minutes. Kelly's streak win streak of 10 win seasons will end at seven. Kelly won double digit games in each of his last four years

at Notre Dame and extended it with consecutive 10 win seasons in Baton Rouge. But losing three in a row to Texas A&M, to Alabama and Florida makes it impossible to get them past nine. Ah, man. Oh, how are you going to tell the man? So the man missed time.

He's John. Right. And so you think that's coaching. But you know, you know, the funny thing about it is the coaching part that he's talking about is not coming from just missing that jump. This is a cure accumulation of things that he'd probably have done wrong. And they keep, they keep talking to him and he keeps making mistakes and because he's not listening to the coaching, they think the coaching and the mistakes that he's made previous to that play is why he

said what he said. It got to be. It got to be. And you know, I'm mad, goddamn it. They need to, you know what? They need on these airlines when I'm flying. They need to have TVs on these airlines They got TVs on their line. Oh I was on Southwest

South what you TV? There's a reason why you play $32 and 14 cents for a ticket Well, I was just trying to get to Cincinnati on and in the most fiscal way possible Okay Well, I was just trying to get to Cincinnati on in the most fiscal way possible. Okay. That's a discount. Southwest is considered a discount carrier. You know, I don't like the way you just said that because I'm just not saying it. Any kind of way. I'm just telling you what it is. What is what is called? Listen, it's not a discount carrier because the Southwest, because the plane,

regardless of the name that's on it, all you're doing is paying for the name. Because American Airlines, American Airlines and Delta and United, they it's the same planes in Southwest use it's the same plane. But they're not considered discount. Let me ask you a question. Talk to me. Oh, Joe, all I'm saying is what they're referred to as. Okay. Discount carriers. You get mad at me.

It ain't my fault. I'm not getting mad. I just don't like, you know, the way you, let's say like a pair of jeans, right? A pair of Levi's jeans. You get a pair of Levi's jeans for $32, right? Right. You go to Louis Vuitton. Louis Vuitton got that same material

they take the Levi's off they put the LV on there and they charge you 1900 it's the same it's the same but when you go when you go to those doors the TJ master offices what are they considered are they considered high-end or they consider discount they call it they look they low end they cut they can so why you get no seat upset with me? Because that's what they can refer to Southwest and some of these, I didn't say it's anything wrong with it, Ocho.

I just don't like the way they construct the wordplay to make it seem like it's a bad thing when it's really all the same thing. All you're simply paying for when people don't seem to realize or understand you're paying for the name when the product is really the same. That's with anything. Oh, Joe. Right. You're right. You're right. I mean, you go by meat at one place. You can buy a eight ounce filet at one place and go to another place. That's

high end. And they're going to charge you double the price. But you know that because of where you going to eat it. Now, yes. The fact that we talk about it, I don't think people know or understand that. What we talking about. But they think they're getting some better because the price is higher. When all in actuality, all you're doing is paying for the name. And you go to Costco, they sell steak, they should sell shrimp and crab claws. You go to one of these high end food grocery stores. Yes, sir. And it's going to cost you more. Yes, sir. It just is what it is. clause, you go to one of these high end food, uh, uh, grocery stores.

And it's going to cost you more. It just, it just is what it is. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. And I'm not saying that anything wrong with you flying Southwest, but I'm just saying that's what, because they have to, in order for them to consider themselves that they got to cut costs somewhere. Oh, Joe, you're right. Right. They can't give you the same. They can't give you the same,

they can't give you a first class ticket for $200 while the same ticket on Delta is 2000. I mean, they gotta get their money from somewhere. Yeah, you right, you right. Somebody say Southwest Got TVs, Ocho. Shit, not the one I was on. Well, I don't know what Southwest. Like I said, I don't know.

I don't know, I've never flown with that. Back on topic. Florida Florida has been abysmal this year, right? If I'm not mistaken. Huh? Florida. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I had a chance to fly.

That's it. Now I really I really go. I really go through Salt Lake, go to hell, and then I'll be ready to come home. But I'm not doing that. But you don that but you know Ash, you don't care. Hey. That's okay. See it like this here. If you were late coming to work cause you was all cramped up cause boo. Oh man listen that I was. Oh, man. Listen, I was.

It was Jay Farrell. Oh, my, my, my, my old faithful, they have no spirit airlines that would give me in time from cut from both. I think so. I don't think you will be able to fight him anytime soon. Who went bankruptcy? Spirit. You know the game, huh? They and they and they you five bankruptcy. So you so you can get yourself out of debt.

Dangerous. So they had to pay. How you get the debt? We're gonna be all right. How you get the debt? Yeah. I mean with that. No, the airline business is tricky. The airline business or just business in general is very. I mean I hear other airlines say they haven't they haven't a record-setting years like who? Delta You do know you do understand spirit is still the safest airline to fly right? No, it's not. Hey despite their financial issues. They're not Just got you said don't make it true because I do read the report. I'm a peep reader report Pull it up Pull it up. Pull it up. You pull it up. Okay. I'm gonna let you have that one.

I'm gonna have that because we. But I think there's a situation where another player from LSU was yelling at uh uh uh Brian Kelly on the sideline. Well, they cut away. But see, but here's the thing. When he, oh, here's the thing. Now when he was reaming out the coat, when the coach was reaming out the player, they kept the camera on it. Yeah. But the sooner the players started giving it back to him, they cut away. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, they go through that. For one, they my parents, my parents and loved one had to see you

as the F asked me what the F am I doing? Right. Asking me who the F I think I am. Right. I would I would rather the cameras cut away from the player as opposed to coach, because I rather the camera saved the player because they don't use that against him when it's time to go in the draft. They were with that. So when they go you when they go you anything is Brian Kelly. They usually get what he was in Cincinnati.

They didn't use it against him against no, but you see what they do it. You see how you see what they use it when he was at Cincinnati. They didn't use it against him against Notre Dame, but you see what they do with it? You see what they use it against? He has a complexion for the protection. He can do that. You see what they use it against? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's cold in here.

Let me turn this AC off, man. God, me. Number one, Oregon Ducks survive in Randall in Madison, Wisconsin at Camp Randall. They beat the Badgers 16-13. Jordan James rushed for 115 yards and a time touchdown on 22 carries to help the Ducks win their first 11 game season and for the, it's first 11 games and for the second time in school history.

Wow. The Ducks also won their first 11 games in 2010, went on to reach the BCS championship game before losing to Cam Newton led Auburn Tigers. Oregon won by outscoring Wisconsin 10-0 in the fourth quarter. The Ducks also erased the fourth quarter deficit and victories over Boise State and Ohio State this season. The Ducks quack quack. this season. The Ducks quack quack. Hey, they... I don't understand. The top teams in college football. What don't you understand? Week in and week out, they up and down.

There is no dominant fixtures. The Georgians, the Alabamers, that dominate the entirety of the season, obviously, until they get to the playoffs. Everybody's up and down depending on who they're playing. There's no reason Oregon should be struggling against Wisconsin. There's no reason. Teams that are playing are supposed to be challenging

for a national championship. It just shouldn't happen. Everything is just seems so inconsistent. And I swear for God, I think it's because, I don't wanna use NIL as a reason why, but it's even the playing field with all teams across- No, quarterback play. What teams are successful in NFL?

Look at the quarterbacks. You think it was that bad? The quarterback played for Oregon. Was that bad today? No, they're on the road. Wisconsin is not an easy place to win. But you know, you're dealing with 18, 19 year old kids. These are not professionals.

They don't understand that environment. We understand what it's like to go and play in Pittsburgh. We know what it's like to go play in Kansas City. We know what it's like to go play in Buffalo Pittsburgh. Oh, you know what it's like to go play in Kansas City. We know what it's like to go play in Buffalo. These kids, a lot of these kids haven't been in that hostile of an environment. Just playing on the road is very where you're playing. You think that is different? You think that affect the kids on?

Oh, yeah. Atmosphere. Yes. Yes. That's that's that's that's it impacts professionals. How many times we see we get they get propellant, get a procedure. Oh, yeah, because you can't hear. OK, OK, I thought that you meant the hostile environment like, of course.

Yeah, I mean, I hate maybe I'm there's something wrong with me. I prefer playing at away games and being at hostile environments as opposed to being at home. I want to be able to hear the snap count. I want to be able to hear the snap count. I'm looking at the ball anyway because I can't hear. I'm looking at the ball. I just need the ball to move.

So whether I can get a snap count or not, whether we're going silent, whether we're playing home or away, I'm not listening to the cadence anyway. But see, I can't look at that because I got a guy. I got a guy on my head. Oh, yeah. You always got somebody in your head. Yeah. But he always you always. But see, you always look at it like that. Yeah. At the tight end, you got a little grace

because he has to give you a full yard, right? Yes. OK, OK. Now, he in the full yard, he just his helmet just can't be all the loudest scrimmage and I'm normally crowding the ball. I want to be I want to be as close to getting to where I need to be. I ain't trying to be back. Some people, why you why you a yard and a half off the ball? Damn that. Get a little freedom. Yeah. Hell yeah. No. Yeah, exactly. But the Dubs survived. And it looks like this probably will be them in Ohio State again in the championship game. Probably it is the Indy.

Because that's where that's where it was last year, I think. That's where normally is the big 10 is normally in India. Yeah. Yep, Lucas. Oh, yeah. So it's going to be it's going to, uh, it's gonna be a very interesting game, but that's the mark of a good team. You find ways to win. You outscored the opponent in their building by 10 points and you squeak out a victory. 16 to 13 give the Doug's credit.

Do they have another game? They play 12 and then they got the championship game. If they I think who, but they still have three games left, they play so they play Washington, they have Washington next week and then they got the big championship in two weeks, they got to buy next week. OK, they got to play two weeks. They got Washington and then they got the big 10 championship. Go ahead. Oh, they got to play Oregon State, though, right?

Or they already had some. They already beat you all. You have to say it like that. They think about taking y'all off the schedule, so y'all in no competition. They beat y'all forty nine, 14, just like they did when you was there. You sure? Yeah, actually, when I was there, the four months I was at Oregon State, we did win Civil War.

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beat the San Jose State 42-21. Jenchy 159-3 touchdowns at school records for rushing, for yards rushing in the season. So what's he at now? A little, a tick under 2000. He's an 1893 Ocho. How many games left? There's three games left, ain't it? You got, he got two games in the regular season. Yeah.

He, he don't get that 2000. Oh yeah. He'll get 2000. No, the question is, is he going to get Barry's record? He's about 700 and seven. He's about 736 yards behind Barry. So would they count the playoff? No, then he's not. Yeah, they do.

They do. They do eat. That's a, that's a lot. That's almost a full season worth of work in a three game span. The question is, is he going to make the college football playoffs? Cause they got two games. Do they have a conference? Do they have a conference championship? Yeah. People talk about the Cowboys go at, uh, go, uh, drive Gentian. No, they won't.

That's too obvious of a pick And a running back going that high yeah They have a problem so they got two plus the championship and i'm assuming they're gonna be in it yeah Yeah, so who do they have left? Oh man, he's about to go for 300 against Oregon State. Where they play us last. It don't matter. In Corvallis, they can play y'all on the moon, can play y'all in the parking lot.

He going for 250. I don't think so. He might go for 120, but I don't know about two nothing, not on us. Yeah, on y'all. But see the difference here, how many games have we played now, Ash? 10 or 11.

See Barry Barry rushed for 2600 in 11 games, but oh, so he needs 735 yards. It's several hundred yards rushing possible in a game. You're a college game. No, no. And if it is, the conference is you know what? I'm not gonna say that. Yeah, I don't think. But the kids, I mean, the kids playing here

is having an unbelievable season. He's gonna win the Don't Walker, which is the best collegiate running back in college. And rightfully so. Do I believe he's going to get invited to the Heisman? Yes, I do. I believe he's getting invited to the ceremony. But it's my estimation that Travis Hunter is the best collegiate football player.

That's no knock on anybody else. No. I mean, listen, no disrespect, but a blind man can see a blind man can see what Travis doing is special and deserves to win the Heisman. It is deserving. Like there's no hate. There's nothing you can say. You can't you can't talk about all these pads stats and like I saw all kinds of stuff on

Twitter today from from certain people, certain analysts talking about all the numbers he's putting up. He's putting them up in garbage time when the game doesn't matter like, come on, man, like, come on, man. You're just trying to find any type of angle, just any way to be negative. If you watch the game of football, whether it be college, high school, NFL, what Travis Hunter is doing is special. Stop with the, with the Stop with the shenanigans and trying to find something negative to say.

God damn. Yeah, I agree. Oh Joe, Deshaun Mitchell had a hell of a game against Benedict last week. He had 12 catches for 227 yards and two touchdowns. Why is that important? The 227 yards in a single game set the record by Savannah State receiver,

breaking the record held by Shannon Sharpe, set in 1989 of seven catches, 221 yards and two touchdowns. Hey, you gotta go suit up. You got eligibility left? You gotta go get it back. No. I'm glad, Ocho, that hopefully I inspired him.

I mean, look, I mean, for the most part, I'm probably the most famous football player to come out of Savannah State. And I'm glad I could inspire him because I didn't really have anybody to look to because there was really no numbers on Joe that I could like, man, I want to get that. Right, right.

There was nothing like that. And so for him to go get that, I mean, like I said, I'm surprised that he hadn't got it yet, but after 35 years, do salute, salute, salute the young boy. Salute. John Mitchell, congratulations. And he's first team all conference as a receiver.

I think he had like 49 catches, 913 yards and nine touchdowns. So anytime a Savannah State Tiger does something, why the wire receiving position, any position, here's Savannah State Tiger, bro. I'm wire receiving position at any position here, Savannah State Tiger, bro, I'm proud of you. I salute your success.

Congratulations on everything that you've accomplished. The breaking of my record being first team, all conference, Savannah state, baby, that's what we do. Uh, there's a very cool story coming out of Tennessee. Money Williams lit up the number 11 Tennessee on Wednesday night, scoring 30 of Montana's 57 points. Wow, 57 points on 8 of 15 and 473. He was incredible.

Off the court Williams had a pretty rough year. He lost both of his parents since November, and now he and his older sister are having to take care of his three younger siblings. Vos Beat Rider, Mike Williams, Mike Wilson posted Williams go fund me after the game and the donations have been pouring in from Tennessee fans looking to help Tennessee fans have been donating thousands of dollars and 128,000, $651 have been raised with a goal of $150,000.

That's dope. Wow. That's dope. That's, that's, that150,000. That's dope. Wow. That's dope. That's very dope. That's really dope. I think that that I'm not sure if that that story in itself has been made public or as far as globally, you know, statewide, but that can extend way over the $150,000 mark. Oh yeah, for sure. I'm sure it will. Way over the $150,000 mark very, very, for sure. I'm sure it will. Way over the $150,000 mark.

Very, very fast. If the right outlets push that story. Yeah. Damn, that's commitment. It is, it is. We gotta, I'm gonna get his information. I'm gonna donate also, cause we need to get that restaurant

that the people walked out on. So make sure we have the team get that information so we can get them taken care of. But that's an unbelievable story. Money, bro, I am sorry, so sorry to hear about your mom and your dad. But you and your sister stepping up and doing what your mom and dad would be so very proud

of you doing, taking on the responsibility of your younger siblings. And I know that's a, that's a, that's a tall task. I mean, because you really haven't had an opportunity to grieve because you have to be a parent now and you know, why you might want to agree. You realize that you got three younger brothers and sisters that's counting on you to be the fill in parent now. So, uh, bro, continue success, keep your head up, unbelievable, puts everything in perspective,

lets you understand what's important and what's really, really, really, really important. And family is the most sacred thing. And I'm glad the Tennessee fans are doing what they're doing. But let's go ahead and get that thing, get it up. Get that thing on up to a couple of hundred thousand, maybe even half a million. So, money, we got you bro.

Jerry Jones believes Jason Whitten could be an NFL head coach. He has something you can't draw. Reminds me of our other tight end head coach in Detroit right now. Oh Lord have mercy. Oh, what you want to bet? What you want to bet? What you want to bet? What you want to bet? What you want to bet? You hear him talking? Hey, at what point does it end, Al? It don't. At what point does it end? Like, how do you take?

Give the fans what, you know what? I'm going to let you talk about it, man. You told me you told me not to say much when it comes to Jerry. So I'm going to let you take the flow. Reminds me a lot of our other tight end. He's a head coach up in Detroit right now. That why you cut it? Oh, but anyway, should there be any comparison to Dan Campbell? Do not compare Dan Campbell and motherfucking Jason Witten. Don't do that. Don't do that.

Now Jason Witten was a great tight end for the Dallas Cowboys for many years. Put up some great numbers. But yes, from a coaching standpoint and a coaching perspective, Dan Campbell is a different type of coach. There are very few coaches in an NFL like Dan Campbell. I can name I can name maybe. Like that, like player friendly coaches that you just want to run through a wall for Campbell. Dick LeBow, if you ever played for Dick and blow, if you've met both your Mike

Tomlin's your hard boss, your Mike Shanahan. No, not Mike. Did I say that right? Kyle Shanahan. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The young one player friendly, understandable, yeah, yeah, yeah, the young one. Player friendly, understandable, play the game, understand the game, there's a certain energy, certain aura that they bring to the culture. You know, just don't do the comparison. Don't come on, Jason Witten, Dan Campbell, and this is no knock on Jason Witten, the football player. But from a coaching perspective,

he didn't even have that type of mentality. He didn't even carry himself the same way as Dan Campbell to be compared to him. Like what do we do? Is the Cowboys on the by this week? They've been on the by all season. Or they play the Texans. They've been on the by all season. What you talking about?

For sure. For true. And people talk about this shit they take. No, just keep doing what you do it. You get the first bit. You don't even do anything different. What you mean to tell me? Y'all can play worse than what y'all play it. I Mean in order for you is being as bad as the Cowboys is you got to practice that old joke

Yeah, yeah I mean you got to go out there and practice to try to lose to law look here check this out with a man hit The whole like they are need y'all to step to the side When I throw you the ball you hit it up in there. Let somebody pick it right? Hey When I throw you the ball, you hit it up in the air, let somebody pick it. Right. Hey, Larry Zonka is once again getting calls about another team that's trying to join the 72 Dolphins as the NFL's only undefeated teams throughout the season. That's regular season and postseason. Zonka, a Hall of Fame running back who powered Miami to back to back world titles.

In addition to helping the 72 Dol go 17 and old, see similarities between the teams and the twin, uh, his team and the 2024 chiefs. It's fun to talk about a team that showing side that kind of reminds me of the dolphins, the attention to detail. They're willing to not to take care of business about the, not worried about their own statistic, but about winning is reminiscent and I kind of get a kick out of the quarterback and that coach, it brings back memories. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if Andy, Andy

don't remind me of Coach Schumacher. No. His personality is a lot different than Coach Schumacher. And I don't think the Chiefs are here. I don't think honestly, the bills are three and one. The bills are three and one against the chiefs in the regular season. Now, that's a different thing. I have the bills winning the game tomorrow. I have the bills winning the game tomorrow just for the simple fact that Josh Allen and what they've been able to do offensively, him not turning the ball over, them being able to move the ball up and down the field, whether it be the pass, whether it be the run with

Daven Cook, some of the creative things that they're doing and not putting Josh Allen in harm's way, where he's normally turning the ball over a lot. This season, he's protected the ball very well. And the Chiefs have started so slow. They started so slow. And I know when it counts, most Patrick Mahomes has come in and clutch on those drives where you just got to have it. He always delivers like FedEx and Amazon, but I had the bills winning tomorrow. And that's no slight to the cheese. But if

you are going to lose, this is a game you want to lose and get, get that win, get that taste out your mouth now, and then carry yourself on into the, into the back half of the season and pick up where you left off. Um, I think the, uh, chiefs are two and a half point underdogs. I see. See what, what, what, what is, uh, what is the draft Kings net in the line? It gets biggest all in my business.

The bills are underdogs? Wow. What? Yeah, that's what I thought. Wait, the bills are underdogs? Oh, you got that right? The chiefs are. Oh, I was finna say, come on that. Yeah, the chiefs are underdogs.

Two points, okay. Hey, Ojo, somebody did a chat talking about my grandma single. What about your grandma granddaughter? Is she single? That's what I'm looking for. Yeah. That's what I'm looking for.

I don't know who told you. They done told you wrong. Hey, but you, I think, you know what, you might, listen, I don't mean, I know we talking football right now, but you need someone around your age though. Somebody that got something going on. You know, somebody that's a little seasoned, somebody that's- They got people that's younger than me got stuff going on. I mean, stuff that you can relate to.

I can relate to. I can relate to anything. That's why we have a podcast that talk culture. We talk sports. We talk about everything. You sure? Because the younger you go, they'd like to be outside. They'd like to be outside, you know, to strip.

I'd be outside, too. You just don't see me. See? I'd be outside, too. Yeah. I'd be outside with them. OK. too. Yeah. I'll be outside with them. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Bad as they look at old Joe. They say you only as young as the woman you feel. I feel 30ish. Okay. Okay. I like that. Hey, you could date you. Can you date 30? Can you listen? Can you date 30 and deal with the games and the indecisiveness

the overthinking the analyzing the not the not knowing what you want to do and like look. Oh look, it's just like. All 50 plus year old men are as not as not stable. It doesn't know what they want to do. Not all 30 years. There's some obviously.

Yeah. There's some 30 year olds that's more grounded than others. Right. Those are what I'm looking for. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Let me have this. Hold on. I'm working on these 3711 jobs I got. Is that what you're talking about? That's what I'm saying. But you keep focused on that. Let me focus on this other stuff. Okay. I got you. I'm with you. The Seattle Seahawks have planned to draft both Devo and DK Metcalf in the second round in the 2019 draft. But the Raiders backed out at the last second and screwed.K. Metcalf in the second round in the 2019 draft. But the Raiders backed out at the last second and screwed Seattle over.

Ocho, would this have been the scariest receiving duo ever? You know what? They would have been a scary receiving duo, but who is going to get him the goddamn ball? That's the most important part. Listen, a team is only as good as- Russ played with D.K.? He didn't have Russ throwing him the ball.

You say they went at, oh, so D., DK, Mecca, I mean, not DK. Dvo was supposed to go to Seattle. Yeah, they were going to trade. They were going to trade. But the Raiders backed up out the deal. Oh, OK, OK. Now, now that that would have been nice. That that's what I mean. You had me thinking they was supposed to be at the Raiders together.

OK, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. They were supposed to be. They were supposed to be at Seattle together. That would have been nice. That would be. Hey, hold on with B. What we Seattle together. That would have been nice. That would have been. Hey, hold on. With B. Wait, no. B-Smoke, they were with DK, huh? Uh-uh.

OK, dude. Yeah, that would have been nice. That would have been nice. Yeah, I don't know about the best receiving group ever. Ever? Hell no. Hey, good, though. Hell no.

Hell no. You got two of the same players, one just tall and one just short. That's it. One just tall, one just short. Hey there, it's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker. On every season of my podcast Against the Rules, I take a broad look at various characters in American life. The referee, the coach, the expert. My next season is all about fans and what the rise of sports betting is doing to them, to the teams, and even to my family.

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We're back for the season with Peter Schrager. In each episode of the season, I'm going to empty my proverbial notebook and take you inside and behind the scenes on the conversations that happen at the highest levels of NFL franchises. You see, you'll be in the front office of an NFL team one week, but the next week you're going to be at a bar elbow to elbow with some of your favorite celebrities laughing about football, like Kansas City Chiefs fan Paul Rudd. By the way, can I just point out how much I like the music of this podcast? Music is awesome. Incredible. It's very good. It's very kind of like a funky beat.

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via unanimous decision. Ocho, what did you think about the fight? What did I tell you was going to happen, man? I told you it was going to come down to stamina and conditioning. Jake Paul won round two to eight. Round one for people in the chat. Round one, if you're paying attention, when Mike came out there,

and applied pressure and opened up and volume punched a little bit, just a little bit, and he scared the shit out of Jake. If you watch, go back and watch round one again. And Mike was actually Mike for a little bit. Even a 58 year old Mike made Jake Paul uncomfortable. I'm comfortable.

He's not used to that. You can't train for that kind of that kind of fighter. I don't care who you spar with and how many rounds or hours of small. You can't. After round one, I'm not sure why Mike stopped. I'm not sure why he stopped applying that pressure. He was seeing. What you mean he got tired?

The same reason when you run it, when people running and they get tired and they start walking. Yeah. That's why you told me, man, why you stop? I was tired. You're right. You're right. He caught Jake with that left hook twice.

I think maybe twice. He ain't throw the uppercut not once. He ain't throw the uppercut one. And then I seen there was, there was some rounds in the later rounds where Jake hit him across the head and he was backing up. He was biting on his bite. No, you know, he always keep it. Yeah. It was just, it was, it was very uncomfortable for me. It was, it was very uncomfortable for me to see Mike, to see Mike going backwards on

the scene of going backwards, huh? To see him going backwards. Mike don't fight off his back foot, huh? Mike come forward, baby. It just, listen, kudos to Jake, you know, kudos to Mike for getting in there and living out a dream, allowing his kids. I saw what he wrote on Twitter, excuse me,

what he wrote on X about his kids, being able to see him standing there against somebody, you know, 30, 20 some years younger or whatever, man. And I'm glad you were able to fulfill that dream or whatever it might've been and being able to get back in the ring after 22 years, I salute you. But I mean, it is what it is. It wasn't what I thought it would be.

It wasn't what I thought it would be. I think Jake, he stepped off the gas a little bit in the later rounds. So he would knock Mike out if I think if he wanted to, if he applied pressure, he could have knocked Mike out if he wanted to be. But he didn't. So, I mean, it was cool, but it wasn't what I thought. It wasn't what I thought it would be. I didn't get the thought. I thought I would have thought it would be. Yeah. If you look at my

if you look at Mike training and hitting the pads with that, with that, with that, that, that, that velocity. Yeah, even the pads don't move. But listen, it's different. I think we didn't even get that. We didn't even get we didn't even get that type of mic that coming up under. Like, I'm just just letting it go. Round one, I was like, oh shit,

boy, Mike's gonna kill this motherfucker. And then when we're out, it came that it was a wrap. Oh Joe, you know how it is, man. You know boxing. You've gotta be well conditioned. Very, it's different. And because the thing is, it's not that you're just running, you're throwing punches.

So you're using every part of your body, your arms, your back, your shoulders, your legs, your core got to stay tight. You got to be mentally focused because you don't know where punches are coming from. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, sometimes you can get to fatigue mentally. That'll drain you. Yeah. Yeah. And then, sometimes you can get to fatigue mentally. That'll drain you. Yeah. Yeah. And then, you know, my my.

I mean, I don't know what people was thinking. I got exactly what I thought. I saw a 58 year old fighting his legs and fighting, doing, doing a cardiovascular. I could see Ocho if it was like weightlifting, like you got older. You got guys in their 50s that are still strong, but it doesn't require the cardio, the lactic threshold that it would require as a boxer. Yeah. So I don't know what people thought they were gonna get. Like, oh, Mike, were gonna get. Yeah. Like, oh, Mike, Mike retired 22 years ago.

Why? Because he didn't have. Hey, bud. Because he didn't have the desire. Hey. What you doing? Hey, his legs went up underneath him either. They was underneath him that first round though.

That first round. Hey, he scared the shit out of Jake, boy. My legs built under me for that first round. I know he thinking in his head like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Mike, what you doing? Ocho, my legs built under me for the first round. If this wasn't the ass for that second and third one, I ain't got nothing for.

You know what I'm saying, Ocho? I ain't. I'm making fists. Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, speaking of boxing, I'm glad you brought this up. There's, it's called Misfits Boxing, you know, a bunch of content creators, YouTubers, and they have a Misfits Boxing. One of their fighters called me out today, Anthony, Anthony

Pretty Boy Taylor. And he asked me, can I make 175 pounds or can I make 180? And I told him, I can make whatever you need me to make. So at some point in the future now, I might have to, I need my nightcap trunks. I need my nightcap robe, you know? And so I'm gonna- I ain't put you and all that nightcap gear so you get knocked out. Hang on.

They see, they see, and all they gonna see is unking out my face and your face on the trunk. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

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Not he too little. I want I want to actually I want to fight the actual fight. He said he won't. He said he won't. Floyd Mayweather. Oh, come on, man. I'm just telling what he told me. Yeah, I know. I tell you, but sometimes people just be talking just to talk. Thinking is what they want. Everybody got a plan to get punched in the mouth.

Yeah. Hey, Anthony, Anthony, pretty boy Taylor, man, whenever you ready, baby, talk to me, send a contract. They got to make it got to make sense. They got to make sense. And one thing about these hands, they fly, baby, and they do deliver. I ain't told by Amazon. But see, I don't know if the man's been updated yet.

Oh, they've updated. I stopped training box yet. I've been the past four years. You hands been updated yet. Oh, they been updated. I ain't stopped training boxing yet. I've been, the past four years, you gotta think, I've been training now seriously, taking it actually seriously since 2021. The problem is I ain't really had nobody to fight. I've been waiting on Andre Ward. Andre Ward running for me. He scared, you know.

I think that's what you call a shit fight. Who? Logan Paul should fight Andre Ward. Jake Paul should fight Andre Ward. No, no, no. Why not? You're gonna get the man hurt. Don't do that.

Get who hurt? Jake, what you mean? He can't get in the ring with an experienced fighter of that magnitude. That's an elite fighter. You're talking about you want to get in the ring with him? I beat Andre Ward ass. I'm different. I'm a fighter. Well, how about you want to get in the ring with it. I beat up being on your board as I'm different. I'm a, I'm a, I'm a fighter.

I've been, how about you fight Jake Paul? Then how? What you mean? How easy getting there, put gloves on, put trunks on boots and go to work. All right. Cool. Tell Jake, tell Jake, send me the contract. Matter of fact, only listen to this.

Think about this right quick. Jake is from Cleveland, Ohio, right? Think about how this right quick. Jake is from Cleveland, Ohio, right? Think about how this will be. He's from Cleveland, Ohio. I played in Cincinnati. We can have the motherfucking fight right at Paycor Stadium. We can feel the whole stadium. At Paycor, right?

Boom. Netflix. What have you or whatnot? Battle of Ohio. OK, guys, I'm putting in right now I'm gonna be looking for a new co-host. Wouldn't this fight take a bit. Hey what happened? I'm going to get your applications in need to be versed in a lot of different topics you can talk football talk basketball I'm sure you can research things on track and field. You gotta be able to spell too. Yeah.

Now that's your statement. We're not doing a spell-o anymore. And culture-related. You need to know R&B, you need to know pop, you need to know things that's going on. Cause Ocho fight, Jake Paul or Andre Ward, unfortunately I feel I'm gonna have to have me a new partner. You won't, you won't.

You know, that's gonna pay dividends for us. You know, not only are we the best podcast there is. How is it gonna be a dividend for us if I gotta get a new partner? It ain't gonna be Unc and No-Cho no more. Yeah, it is. Man, listen. Come on, man. It ain't gonna be Unc and No-No.

I'm gonna be good, huh? I'm gonna be good. You guys, see, listen, think about, imagine me coming out, you walking me out. You know, they be having rappers walk them out. You walk me out. You know, you and Ash walk me out. You know, I got my robe on.

How far is the ring? Cause my knee bad, I can't walk that far. Man, I be telling Jordan, man, hey, how far is this thing up here, man? People be talking about it, man. It's just right around the corner. I said, man, you should have got me one of those little carts. Hey, I think that that would be dope, man.

Just think about it. Nightcap. Yeah, geez. Ocho versus Andre Ward, Ocho versus Jake Paul. We might come out better in a wrestling match. Oh, no, no, no, I wanna man man, listen, God bless me with these hands for a reason. Now you people think my feet fast. You should see these things here go, huh? You should see these things right here go. But anyway, okay, we back on back on back on back on subject.

But I'm look first of all, I'm glad Netflix had this so they can get the kinks out because look I don't think it's gonna be that many people Watching football on Christmas, but it just goes to show you I mean this they gonna have those 60 million people watching I mean, maybe what what you think it 12 14 15 million. Yeah, so it's Jake has done a hell of a job Jake has done a hell of a job to be able to to get that many people to tune in to a fight like that. Yeah, I mean you think about it. We have like 70 something thousand and AT&T Stadium. Oh yeah. To watch a 27 year old fight a 58 year old. Yeah, yeah commendable, commendable. Jake,

very commendable what you've been able to do over the past four or five years. Commendable. Who do you think Jake should fight next? You? Yeah. Okay. Might as well. You know, you got to deal with somebody that's much more athletic to you, someone that's in shape, that has stamina, that has the footwork of a

motherfucking cheater, that can move, that can dodge, I can fight on the inside, I can fight mid-range, I can fight from a distance, I can dance on you, I can hit you when I want to. I can play, I can- Okay, don't get in the pocket, don't sit in the pocket, don't you? Huh?

Get on your bike and just run around, don't sit in the pocket. No, no, no, no, no, I ain't getting on the bike. I mean, I ain't getting on the bike. I've been trained, listen, I've been training with goddamn Bozianus and Geronimo. Mike Tyson was training too. Let me finish.

My confidence is out the roof right now because of the people in the toolage who I've been able to train with and absorb information from over the past four years. You hear me? So you- No, I ain't listening. Hold your head up now. Hell, you hold your head up now.

So you can keep your problem right. All right, listen, when it happened, when it happened and the first thing you say when we come on the show at that fight, the first thing you'll say is, boy, you was right. You was right. I know you had it like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I told you I don't just be talking. Well, I hope that's the case. I hope really rub your mouth like you swat. Wait, who? Real. He left me. She'll be there, I mean, something happens to her, she'll be back. She'll be back, she ain't gonna let you go out like that.

She still care. How you know? Cause she does. You don't be with somebody as long as you two have been together. And then all of a sudden your feelings just go away in two weeks or three weeks or a month. She still care. I mean, just like you still care. And you know, hey, everybody tries to put on a brave face.

I'm doing so good. But when you're alone in your private moments, I know, I know everybody's going through it. Everybody's going through it. Been there, done that. I don't know, even when you talk to them, I don't need, Hey, I was good before I met you. How you think I got this far? I didn't know you. I didn't know you till I was in my 40s. So what did I do the first 40 years? Through you hanging on the phone, damn, babe, I miss you.

I sure wish you'd come back. I'm sorry. That's what you say to yourself. You gotta stand on that for a little while. Just like women say things that, hey, I can do without you. You not the only this, blah, blah, blah. Get it, get it.

Everybody's been there. Yes, it's only one me. I don't give a fuck where you go. It's still going to be me. Shit. You can go high, you can go low, you can go in the middle, but it's still me. It's only one me. It don't matter. It don't matter. It don't matter. No matter what you get, you're still going to get this.

Shit. I still look, I think both of you guys realize I think both of you guys are special. There's only one rail. There's only one you. There's a reason why you guys realize, I think both of you guys are special. There's only one rail, there's only one you. There's a reason why you guys got together. Something brought you guys together. Yeah, you've had issues before, maybe not to this magnitude, but hey, things happen. But at the end of the day, it's going to be, it's going to take two people getting into a room together, two people having a conversation, and whether or not this is something that you two really want. That's what it comes down to. One can't want it. The other. And you either got to go all in or not. But it's not easy. I know when you've been someone

I've been in relationships where I've been there a long time and uh, hey, and when it's fresh, whoever party, hey, sometimes they I've messed up and try to flip it. I don't care, leave. Damn baby, please don't. I'm saying to myself, please don't look at that, though. Hey, remember that Martin episode? He tried to get mad, he said, Gina, leave, I don't care, get out of here.

Don't get to step in. Yeah. Nah, I'm, but I'm good, I'm good, though. I'm good, though, I'm good, though. Listen, I got, but I'm good. I'm good though. I'm good though. I'm good though. Listen, I got a singular focus right now. I got a single focus. And definitely helpful. You have something that the occupy your time. But my energy is my energy and my time is the vote. You know, it's the vote is the inside. Then it failed is the vote at the apple is devoted to Pepsi is devoted to all

these things, all these, these blessings where my cup is runneth over, that is my singular focus right now. It's devoted to DraftKings. I mean, I can keep going, you know, so I I got to stay aligned, you know, and I got to stay anointed, you know, because the oil, God didn't put the oil on me, right? He didn't put the oil on me. He's blessed me in a way that I couldn't imagine. You do realize Rell was in your life when all these things happened? Come again, press play. Rell was in your life when everything that you just had happened.

The Apple, the DraftKings, the Pepsi, the inside the NFL, the this, the that. You know who was by your side, right? OK, I'm just putting that out there. You do what you want to do with it, but I'm just saying. We understand. The Volume. Hey there. It's Michael Lewis, author of Going Infinite, Moneyball, The Blind Side, and Liar's Poker.

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