Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Cooper Kupp future, Jerry Jones delusional, Busta Rhymes stops by

Episode Date: October 25, 2024

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Matthew Stafford throwing for 4 TDs in the Los Angeles win over Sam Darnold and the Minnesota Vikings on Thursday Night Football and question if the Rams should trade Cooper Kupp.03:30 - Show starts03:47 - Intro04:55 - Vikings v Bears22:45 - Jerry Jones45:00 - Busta Rhymes joins(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)#Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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the Rams get a win on Thursday night football, improved to three and four, and the Minnesota falls to five and two after losing consecutive ball games. The Rams got a safety on a missed face mask call. Sam Darnett was sacked in the end zone, but it was clearly, clearly a face mask. And I don't know how the official that's standing two, three feet away from it missed that. So now it goes from an eight point to a 10 point game and the Rams get the ball back and they were able to seal the victory by taking knees because the vikes were out of timeout. Oh Joe.

Yeah. Remember we say all plays aren't created equal. Well, shut up. That would mean there are plenty of missed calls throughout the course of the game. Yeah. If you missed that call in the first quarter, you got three, three and a half, four quarters to overcome it.

When you down eight and you missed that call, Ocho. Right. That's a difference. You can't overcome that. You can't. There's a difference in the game. It is. It was a big difference in the ball game.

And look, Matthew Stafford played really well tonight. Uka N Nakua. Now you see why Cooper Cup is on the trade block. You got a younger guy that's less expensive. And that's, that's the way sports work. It's just like that in the real world. If you give somebody that's younger, okay, somebody's been there 10, 15 years, you get somebody that's younger, that's on a cheaper salary that can do the job just as well, if not better. Yeah. When you start to see, there's really no loyalty. You talk about loyalty in sports,

ain't a whole lot of loyalty in jobs either. Yeah, and it never has been. Never has been. That's the way they say it. This is a dirty business. It always has been a dirty business. But for some reason, fans are always fooled into believing that it's a fair game for the players.

And the first thing they bring up is, well, the players make millions of dollars, but they always ignore the business side of things. Again, I'll, I'll, I'll state it again. Uh, Cooper cup didn't have a, a great game tonight, but Puka Nakua did. He picked up where he left off. Matthew Stafford, if I'm not mistaken, coming into this game, he only had three touchdown passes in the past whatever weeks it might have been. And tonight with a healthy Cooper Cup and a healthy Puka Nakua has four tonight.

The deep, the offense looked completely different. So with Cooper Cup being on the trade block, but then going from, from, um, what was it? What the two and five and that would two and four to nine, three and four, if I'm not mistaken, that's three and four. With that being their record now, I think that's off. Cause now you have to think last year they went on an eight game stretch of winning seven of the last eight. So who's to say that they can't do that now, now that everybody is back healthy.

So I think, and they obviously last year they made the playoffs and finishing 10 and 10 and seven, if I'm not mistaken and made the playoffs. So they might, they might can go on a run now and do the same thing, especially from an offense standpoint, as good as their plan. The question is, if somebody willing to give me the high draft pick that I seek for Cooper cup, then I do the deal. Tampa Bay absolutely will. They have nothing. They have nothing.

They don't. They don't. Let me clear it. Let me clear this. Chris Godwin is out. Mike Evans is out. It's always next. It's always next man up, but the next man up is not going to give you the production that your Mike Evans, your Chris Godwin would having a cup to come in in the office that I'm sure he's familiar with because much doesn't change from team to team outside of the language and the plays that are called that that's pretty, that's pretty much it. So, and I think this guy, I think that guy was with Sean McBabe.

So that might be the same offense. Bingo. And so they might pretty much use the same language. And the thing is, Ocho, when they say next man up, you might be talking about one man. You don't really talk about two. You don't hope you got, well, I got another guy that plays behind Chris Garwood that can be the next man. I got a guy that plays behind Mike Evans that can be the next man. Most teams don't have two guys that are going to be the next man. You might have one. You might find have a diamond in the rough where somebody goes out and the guy can come in and give you very similar production.

But the likelihood of you having two, three guys like we see some of these teams. And that's why Kansas City made the deal. I mean, you are Rashid Rice. You're without Hollywood Brown. And you get, you know, Pacheco, not Kareem Hunt is coming in and did an unbelievable job. But the likelihood of you having multiple guys that can be next man up and give you kind of production that the guys that you were counting on to give you that production

is not very likely. So my question, the thing that I have for the Rams is that. What is the likelihood? Oh, let's just say for the sake of argument, if we were to keep Cooper Cup, right, is what what's our chance? Can we win it all? Because once you want it all, the only question is, can you win it all again? You know what? I say it all the time.

And for those of you that in the chat, football doesn't start football season doesn't start meaningful football. Let me add that to it. Meaningful football doesn't start meaningful football. Let me add that to it. Meaningful football doesn't start until after Thanksgiving. Until after Thanksgiving. And with them being three and four now, to me, how the Rams organization and Sean McVey are looking on the inside, hell, if we went on a run and won seven of our last eight

last year, it made the playoffs at 10 and seven, who to say we can't do it now and go on a run and go on a tear and you know the thing I think I think it's possible and because the 49ers are not what they were you see Seattle you're right there with them you see the Cardinals you're right there with them and so maybe that changes that changes your outlook also now if you were like where the 49ers were what they were 61 maybe 71 at this point last year? You're like, ah, no, we're not catching them. And so now, because there's a chance

you can win the division, there's a chance you will get a, if you win the division, obviously you get a home game. So maybe that changes the thought process, but normally when somebody's on the trade block, they don't pull them off. Especially if I can get what I, what I want to get. Kansas City walked away because they wanted a long, they wanted a hydra pick

and they wanted the Rams to put some of that salary bill. Right. Right. Like, nah, nah, let, let, we go hold on. It's a, we got, we still got what? 12 days, November the 5th, election Tuesday. So we're, we're going to hold, we're going to hold on and we'll see what, we'll see what shakes out.

Maybe I hate saying this, but you know what, Ocho, maybe somebody else that think they got a good chance to make the playoffs or make a deep run or receive against me to their roster. Yeah. I mean, I mean, just, just looking at it, the, the, the only thing that makes sense to me, obviously Tampa Bay who has a winning record and probably wants to still continue to give Baker an outlet, somewhat of a security blanket and someone he can actually get the ball to.

I mean, you just have to do something like that. I'm sure Baker has spoke to management and spoke to the people upstairs. Obviously, the head coach and officer coordinator about getting another target in there so that often can still have some type of consistency and, and, and, and, and rhythm with a receiver that he can count on consistently down in and down out. And listen, it might happen, but again, if you take Cooper cup out of that offense, who, who was double tonight, I think then Puginacua now gets that attention.

But Sean McBase's offense is so creative and being able to find ways to get Puginacua open, I think they would be fine if they were to trade Cooper Cup. You see, Cooper Cup has 5 for 51 on the touchdown. DeMarcus Robinson had two catches for 35 yards, two touchdown. Connor and Williams even chipped in and had a touchdown catch. So they do a great job of spreading the ball around.

Tutu Atwell, who's playing west. Yeah, they, yeah. Stafford under threw him. Yeah. And so, yeah, they do a great job of spreading the ball around. The tight ends chipped in tonight, had some big catches.

Uh, Hunter Long had one for 18 at well had one for 18, uh, Kobe Parkinson had two for 17. Um, that office is really predicated on spreading the ball around. Now he will the hot man, they're going to throw it. They're going to feed you because we remember that, that triple crown season that Cooper cup had, and he's some other seasons which he's played well, but not that historic season that he had during that Superbowl run. So I like this offense and you know, maybe you're right.

Maybe that changes things because the 49ers is not as powerful as we thought they were going to be and they're not dominating that division. Um, and so they're like, hold on there. We got a whole bunch of teams. Anybody can win it. The Cardinals can win it. Seattle can win it. We can win it. 49ers could get healthy. They can win it. But maybe that does change, Ocho. Maybe that does change how they see themselves moving forward. And maybe you're maybe you're right.

Maybe they do pull a Cooper Cup buck off the trade block. But if I think it's bigger than the third round pick for him, I think they're going to let him go because I mean, they say, you know what? We got Puka. We got Demarcus Robinson. We got Atwell. We can spread it around enough and we can make plays. Or look, Kyron Williams running the football. He ran the ball decent tonight. They kept, they balanced it up.

But defensively, they're okay. They're not great. Obviously when you lose one of the historically great defensive players of all time in Aaron Donald, but they still can get after your quarterback. But They still can get out to your quarterback, but it, I would love to have seen what would have happened. Oh Joe, if we get down that that's a face mask. You can't miss, you can't miss that call in that spot at that moment in that

area, because not only do you give them 15 yards at a first down, you take us, that's two points for the opposing team and you give the other team the ball. Oh yeah. So you did, you did three bad things. We don't get 15 yards in the first down. You give them two points and you give them the ball. Right. I'm like, well damn. What the hell were you looking at? Bro, I look, I understand you, you go, okay. I mean, you ain't gonna be able to catch no, oh, they like, hell, we try to get this red eye.

You know, cause you know, they at LA, they got a red eye that probably leaving going, where were they going at 10, 30 11 o'clock. Right. They like, hell, get out here, get a shower. We could be at the airport, get this red eye. We get home in the morning, in the morning, five, 36 o'clock.

Right. We stepping off a plane, but the red eye, we get home in the morning, 5, 36 o'clock. Hey, we stepping off a plane. But the Rams win 30 to 20 over the Vikes. The Vikes drop their second straight games. They were undefeated heading into last week. No longer they lose two consecutive games, the fall of the five and two. Two good teams now. Two good teams, two good teams.

But obviously the Rams look good tonight because they have everybody back healthy on offense. Ocho the Detroit. That goddamn, hey that goddamn Jeff, before we go on with that goddamn Justin Jefferson, man. Yeah. Man, Lord have mercy. Well, you know.

Hey, yeah. They find a way to get him to ball, Ocho. He in this offense is what Cooper Cupp is in the Rams office when Cooper Cupp, because that's what Kevin O'Connell came from Yes, and so they find ways to give him the ball. They put him in the slot They'll stack him they put him in motion. They line him up outside now He lines up way more outside than Cooper Cup does right? Yeah, because mainly a slot mainly the motion guy, but they will do a lot of different things with Justin Jefferson

He's a good route runner. Uh, uh, Cooper cup is a really good route runner because the thing is when you play in this office and they're going to throw you this many balls, Ocho, you've got to be a good route runner because the quarterback know got to know where you're going to be. You can't be drifting. You can't be doing your own thing because he's going to get, Jefferson's going to get somewhere between 150 and 175 targets. Hey, could you imagine?

No, I can't imagine. So I already want to talk about it. Did you imagine with them kind of that many targets or that many catches? Like I look at, I think the, the most catch they had in season was 97. Yeah. 97. And I just think about, I look at some of the, some of the players, you know, 144, 133 kids, I'm like, well, God damn, I'm crazy.

If I was in that type of offense, what would my numbers had been if I was able to get that many opportunities to catch the damn ball? Like that's crazy. The way the game has changed, you know, you will get more, you will get more hits. Well, it's hard to give somebody that kind of, that kind of, those kind of targets when they mainly play outside. If you look at the guys that normally get that kind of catches, they normally play a lot. They play a lot. You look at you look at a B, you look at Michael Thomas, you look at Cooper Cuck, you look at the guys that get those kind of catches. Oh, Joe, you're just playing outside because I can't I can't scheme.

I can't diagram enough plays outside the numbers. I've got to get you some catches in the middle between the hashes I've got to get you, you know some jailbreak screens. I got to get you a lot. I got a Hundred I think I mean what a hundred and eighty a hundred and ninety targets. Oh Joe That's at least that's at least ten to 11 targets a game. Right. I mainly I mainly played on the outside. I didn't do as damage on inside. TJ Housman Zada obviously was was an animal. He was an animal and being able to man being able to read zone honestly and I could just I could be honest with you there's a certain being inside like that it was a certain uncomfortability for me. Yeah.

You know I don't know why. There's a lot uncomfortability for me. Yeah. You know, I don't know why. There's a lot of Conrad in there. Yeah, I enjoyed being on the outside, man to man. You double team and sometimes even with a double team, the first person obviously if there's a double team and you're playing 55 man to whatever it might have been, the person in front of me didn't exist.

Yeah. He didn't exist. Most, he didn't exist. Most of the time, even with the double, even with the safety shaded over on the hash, Carson knew whatever the route concept might have been. The person in front of me did not exist. Yeah, no, I'm a beat him. Oh, and that's what I'm running everything off the safety. I'm I'm a beat him with my technique.

Yeah, beat the second guy with my technique. Yeah. Beat the second guy with the throw. Bingo. Bingo. I got him. Don't worry about him. Right. I got him.

Yeah. You take care of the safety with the throw. And I think that's one of the reasons why I didn't play on the inside much. Because you didn't really have to put me in there for me to be able to get open. So if teams came in the game saying, you know what, we take you out the game, no matter what, we not allowing you to do anything. There'll be certain time where Carson would go off script. And right before I leave the huddle, I'm coming to you anyway.

He just whispered, I'm coming to you anyway. So that, that let me know, okay, whoever whoever's in front of me. Within arms reach it don't matter. You don't even count. Cause I'm running everything off the safety at that point. And obviously just like you said, Carson with his arm was always able, you know, the throw would beat the second man every time. Yeah. I think, and the thing is, like I said, when you play in the slot, you got to be

really technical sound because you can't drift because a lot of times if you drift, that's going to be a headache for you because the quarterback got to protect you a lot because a lot of times you don't see and you see a lot of times if you drift, that's gonna be a headache for you. Because the quarterback gotta protect you a lot. Because a lot of times you don't see. And you see a lot of times when guys back shoulder the slot guy, he try to tell you, there's danger in front of you, bro. I'm saving your headache. I'm saving you for having them come on the field and asking are you okay?

Where are you hurt? What's hurting you, you know what I'm saying? I'm trying to save you because a lot of times the quarterback can see what you can't. And a lot of times those collisions are instantaneous you can't pay them At least oh Joe when you outside you got some time But if you notice you look at Edelman you look at the guys that played the slots the West well because the Cooper Cubs those Guys a lot of time is kept right

Right, right. Yeah, and so You've got to really really take care of your body in there Could you okay you will get hit a lot of time and a lot of times it's gonna be you know You gonna get hit and you don't catch it They try to put hats on you regardless because they want to make it like okay Damn, I don't know if I want to go back in there and catch that other one But this Detroit hangover the real thing teams are now 0 and 5 after playing the Lions this season, as the Vikes did this past Sunday.

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drought. The article, of course, comes with more than a couple of tone deaf Jerry Colts quotes. It's gold. When those players go through our complex out there see the fans, I ain't never seen nobody at work got excited because normally it happens on your day off. They don't normally have tours during the week Monday

Wednesday Thursday Friday Normally, oh Joe. Normally, I don't know how it is. I can only speak two places. I've been in Denver I've been in Baltimore normally is Tuesday or they'll come as we're starting to trickle out of there on a Saturday Right, but normally not when it's a normal workday You're not having that Jerry says, you know, the fan, the player, they love it. They love it. I've never heard any complaints. Really, Jerry? Hey, boss, let me tell you, I got a problem with you. Right. I don't like the way you do.

Come on, Jerry. Yeah, they're not they're not going to say nothing. But again, Jerry is the is the greatest, the greatest salesman of all time. I've never heard any complaints about the tours from staff. I've never heard any complaint of the tours from staff members or players, not one time. But the most important thing is it wouldn't make any... Thank you.

Think about what he said. He said he's never heard a complaint about the tours from staff members or a player, not one time. But the most important thing is it wouldn't make a difference anyway, period, because overall they're swimming against the stream. If you search the article, the word zoo, it comes up three separate times. These tours apparently generate a close to $10 million annually, which is why I keep saying saying why does

Jerry care if he wins a Super Bowl when he's gonna generate 300 to 400 to 500 million regardless every year every year Kelly's getting 300 million just from the TV deal now you see this is separate from the TV deal he has a deal with local radio station. He has a deal with local radio, uh, uh, TV station. AT&T has the naming rights. That's probably 20 million a year. All the other rights that you stuff that you see up in the stadium. He has his own individual merchandise deal. So he prints his own t-shirts. Somebody makes a great catch. Somebody makes a great run. Zeke jumping over somebody, Zeke eating, Jerry Prince, those shirts, boom, they out just like that.

So what's the incentive to win? Ocho, if you can make, let's just say for the sake of argument, you and I caught a cut different, I gotta go to work, but most people, you say, you know what, whatever your salary is, we're gonna double it and triple it, and you ain't got to go to work. Right, I'm going, I got to do something.

But a lot of people say, hold on, you won't pay me to do nothing. See, Jerry don't make money. See, it doesn't bother Jerry if he doesn't win. He gave you all that. See, got keep the fans. Now, I can't tell the fans how I really feel. It's like you say it. Even if they even if the players complain, even if staff members

complain, it's not going to make a difference. Right. So that's the problem. Jerry, nobody gonna tell you the truth. I heard Dak say, no, it don't bother me. Dak, stop. Stop it. You know he can't say what he want to say. Exactly. I get it. You gotta be PC. You got to. You ain't have no choice. Especially him. And if you're there, you gotta be PC. That's why a lot of these guys, And if you there you got to be PC. That's why a lot of these guys Excuse me, they're no longer there. It's an issue. I ain't trying I ain't trying to I ain't trying to see I'm gonna work It's not a zoo. It's not it's not an amusement park, right? Well, it is Jerry's world is It is for them it is for him, but normally that's a place of work. We're going to work

Let's hold on. How many times do you hear players say, let's keep the main thing, the main thing? The main thing, come on now. But the main thing, the main thing to them is these tours and the money that it generates. Right. Because I saw it had a package and we played $30. You can play $50 or $70 or $90.

Yeah. And it's all the time. So you can tell me you couldn't do this on a Saturday. You can't do this on a Monday. You got to do this on a workday because you have to like, Oh, I get a chance to see. I got a chance to see. I saw the back of Dax here or I saw this guy. That's and that's why because he's doing it when the players are actually there, then you can ask, you can ask and price could be a little bit more because now you have access to be able to have visual contact or maybe even speak to the players.

So it's different. So basically it ain't Jerry's World ain't is no different than Jurassic Park when they had the tour, got their movie. Same concept, same concept. If I go on a safari, Ocho, I want to see the elephants. I want to see, I want to see the lions chase down the wildebeest. I want to see that. I want to see the cheetah get something.

I'm going to see the hippopotamus. I want to go see the big five. Or the big seven, whatever. The Cape buffalo, the rhino, the hippo, the elephant, the lion. Whatever the case may be, I want to see that. So if I pay for that excursion, I'm expecting to see that See you better than me You can't put me on the excursion. You can't put me no safari cuz I'm gonna be the one out the goddamn car You ain't getting out that car. I ain't even worried about that. I'm gonna be the one out the car trying to pet shit I bet you won't

Cuz I'll let you Huh? Hey, guess what? And all you gonna see is real They think about this I think think about this now look at all think about all the crazy stuff out there just in We do oh Joe you not in the zoo. That's not a petting zoo. That's real life And that's that's what makes it that much more exciting. Yeah, we get that a crush Yeah, I know you rolled the bulls but see the lions eat bulls. What you think they do to people?

Hold on, I ain't say nothing. I ain't getting out by no lions now. What you getting out to do? Everything else. Everything else you said. Hippopotamuses are more dangerous. The river horse is more dangerous than the lion. Because they're so territorial. Let me tell you something about hippos. They ain't got no lateral movement. They run faster than the lion. Because they're so territorial. Let me tell you something about hippos. They ain't got no lateral movement. They run faster than you think.

Oh yeah, they run about 20, 25, 30 miles an hour. Yeah, that's in a straight line. I said they ain't got no lateral movement. Hey, remember how Baby D was shaking up? Maybe how Baby D in Friday was shaking up. No, what you call, Ice Cube was, uh, uh, Day Day was shaking Baby D. Oh, Day Day were shaking baby D

Yeah, stop stop playing with me you do the right thing just sit there sitting the Jeep that doesn't have a cover on it and just Admire the beauty of the great land of Africa because that's what I'm gonna do. That's what I'm gonna do I tried to pet nothing. I don't go to the zoo Look at the pet nothing when they say you go to the zoo where I haven't been to the zoo in a while But when they say you go to the zoo Well, I haven't been to the little while but when they say don't tap the glass I ain't having the glass When they say don't feed the animals don't I don't feed them I Listen to what they say. I ain't trying to be no hero. I ain't trying to make no news Oh, I did this I did that because the first thing they do just like when What when they ended up killing Harambee? That big silver back Yeah, yeah, yeah they do just like when they ended up killing Harambee.

That big silverback. The little boy, the little boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that messed up, man. Keep your eye on your kids. Man, that was messed up. Yeah, kill that, he ain't bothered. First of all, he shouldn't even been in that bug.

Right. That's first and foremost. I hate to see the animals. I hate seeing them in there. I like to observe them in their natural habitat. Habitat, right. Yeah, they want to roam. They want to roam. These animals want to roam. I mean, they got, lions can travel

hundreds of thousand kilometers. A day. He go, all he do is, oh, rock in there. Oh, that's him, he lit. No. But you know, you think about it. I think about captivity, huh? You know, it's not a, it's

not a good thing. I'm, I'm, I'm not for it, especially when it came to killer whales being in captivity. Oh yeah. Yeah. Understanding how they're treated. But I think about all the people that love, would love the opportunity that don't have the resource or the income or the revenue to be able to see some of these animals in their natural habitat. That's geographic of these animals in their natural habitat.

Natural Geographic. That ain't their natural habitat. No, I said they don't have the resources to fly and go see them in their natural habitat. Good, that's okay. There's a lot of stuff we ain't go see. Right, right. So in a sense, I kind of feel a little sympathetic for those that can't and have the ability to go to a zoo and see animals that they would never be able to fly to Africa or out the country to be able to see in their natural habitat, that's all, but I'm really not for captivity.

I ain't either, man. I was reading where a killer whale, wasn't it San Antonio? The killer whale started pooping in the water and just started splashing it on people. I said, get him, get him! I saw that. I wish I could have been off to the side The killer whale started pooping in the water and just started splashing it on people Get up I could have been off to the side pooping in the water long long waited so he could splat Get y'all ass up out of here. Yeah

But uh Jerry boy, Jerry, Jerry, man. Jerry just don't get it. Oh Joe. He don't so you know what? Let him let him let him live his life as the ultimate PT Barnum, the greatest salesman, one of the greatest salesmen ever. And that's what he is. But he doesn't realize he realized he knows he's in the way, but he can't help himself. He wants that credit. He wants that adulation. Yeah. Uh, it'll be interesting to see. I want to know, does anybody know if he had these tours when Jimmy was there? When did they start these? Wait, I don't think it started until they got the Jerry's world.

Oh yeah. Oh, I think that, no, that's not a Jerry's world. That's at a Ford. That's at the Ford complex. Huh? The star. That's what they call it. The star, but it is sponsored by Ford. Didn't doesn't Ford have their name on the building?

Yes. You see, Oh, you see AT&T and Ford. So he got two big sponsors. Right. That's right. He got a car. He got a car. He got the Ford car sitting inside this. OK, you're right. Mm hmm. You're right. Cowboy drama doesn't stop there. Mike McCarthy clap back at Jerry in a rare inter management spatagement spat first oh whoa whoa whoa first on Tuesday Jerry went on the

radio show saying we're designing bad plays or we're designing bad concepts the fact that there's so much of that but there's there's also some execution issues there's some some of it of the Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, he said, I like our talent. I really do like our talent. I bet you do, because you selected it. You never gonna, Ocho, most times they're not. People are not gonna say it's my fault. Because if he said he didn't like the talent,

what would that be? A direct indictment on him, because he picks the talent. Mike McCarthy seemingly took the critique personally and responded to reporters on Wednesday saying, I talk to Jerry picked the talent. Mike McCarthy seemingly took the critique personally and responded to reporters on, on Wednesday saying, I talk to Jerry all the time. We have to go through self scout. So I didn't see the comments specifically. I don't think we have bad concepts and bad plays.

I'll go back and check. You got to mean what did she say when he got on stage? If you if you want to cut if you want to if you want to make a lot of money and don't want somebody dancing to your videos, cover devro and people think people think Bill Belichick if Mike McCarthy doesn't work out there, you think one of the greatest coaches of all time will come and join that circus so he can look like a clown too? No.

Absolutely not. Absolutely not. But I remember, hold on, Ocho, do you remember just a week ago when Jerry Jones threatened a man when he was asking him about Derek not signing Derek Henry and some of the other things? You remember how Jerry snapped on it?

Yeah, he was hot. He was hot, right? He went to point the finger. We're designing bad plays, a bad concept. You don't know the difference. You don't know the difference between a screenplay and a screen porch. So what the hell are you talking about?

Jerry, you fool the people long enough. They hand you a sheet of paper. It says, okay, these are the guys that we're scouting. Jerry ain't watching no damn film. You don't think so? No. So you don't think, you know what, I'm glad you just said that. How many owners in NFL are actually football guys? I'm talking about literal football guys. Even if they are football guys, they're not watching film. Okay, John Ma, he grew up, his daddy founded the Giants. He ain't watching no tape, the Rooney's.

Their dad and granddad founded that. He ain't watching no damn tape. Right, right, right, right. First of all, you know Miss Virginia McCaskill, hell, she's 90 plus years old. Her daddy was George Hallis. You know damn well she ain't watching no tape. Right, right, right.

But they do have the green light to something off on the players That they bring in and who they want. Yes But will mcleay and the scouting department is doing all of that and they hang jerry a sheep now He might say well, I like this guy better than that guy, but he ain't done. No damn scouting Jerry jones ain't going to no seat. He might go down and see you bought a drink He go to the combine to drink and have the guys there. But Jerry, come on, man. Y'all know how this work.

See, Jerry, I remember I said this. He wants all the credit for the success and none of the blame. Now he ain't say nothing about, oh, just the concept, it's the play design. What about the players that you gave him? What about the running backs? You got three running backs and Derek Henry got 400 yards 400 more yards than all three of them How many more touchdowns does he have? Oh, but Derek Henry wouldn't do that in our office

Why because you know why because y'all dumb enough to not to know how to use it You see what you see what you see what minutes? Baltimore did? Yeah. Put his ass in the capital I and not so much the offset so we can maximize what Derek Henry is. Right. That's funny.

Why would I use a shower curtain for a carpet? That's not what it was made for. You see, Jerry, that just goes to show me. You don't know football. You just be talking and you convince people just because a lot of times people have a lot of money. People think they smart and Jerry is a fabulous businessman. I will not take that away from him because he's worth almost 16 billion dollars but Jerry don't know football. Yeah. And just because you die I'm the general manager and I can do a great job do a great job at what I

Tell you what you so smart fire will McLean tell Wilma Clay say no what I don't want you to do no more scouting Tell you scouting the part, but y'all take me y'all take the month y'all take the year off I got this and let's see what you do Hey, you know you're gonna drive four kickers Hey, you had a good one in there too. Now you, you, you not fit to get away with that one. What'd you say about that shower curtain again? Let me put that in my notes. I ain't got my pin and pad.

Hey, wait, what? No, Ocho. I'm just saying what I'm, what I'm trying to say is that you got to use the person or the item for what you purchased it for. Now shower curtain is meant to be you use it a shower curtain You don't use it as carpet. You'll use it as a throw rug Henry is an eye back Baltimore's Baltimore scheme is basically offset. I zone read but they said you know what?

We're not getting our bang for our buck with dad Lamar's done a great job compromising some of his game because he plays better in the zone read. But look at what the look out his offense look since they put Dehendrian in the eye. Right. They had it mainly in the offset eye in the zone read against Kansas City. Some of that against the Raiders. But that man heals at eight.

Let him see he's sitting there. He can see the whole field. Because it's hard to see when you're on one side to see what's going on. That's why I put him in the eye. And I can, oh, he can scan. He can look. He's looking straight ahead. But out of his peripheral, he can see. Okay. I see wherever this thing, wherever this thing is going, how they're flowing. You see what he did? They put him in the eye. They tossed it. The other night when he went 81, he saw Winfield Jr. coming down. Go ahead, bye.

Bye bye. Hit them burners on him. Went 81. Now he didn't see the other, the corner that came from the far, the far, it was on the offense's right, so it's the defense's left. He didn't see him until it was too late,

but dude was booking. He met him at a point, because when Henry was on this side, you could see him. Oh, Joe, they are all 22. You can see it. I will intercept them at a point. I don't I don't even think what you call them saw me, the Aguilar, because Aguilar was running and he didn't seem to it was too late. By that time, Henry had already passed it and then he took his legs out from under. But yeah, that just goes to show me that took accountability today for the

Dallas slow start offensively. I say I played average below and average isn't good enough to win right now by 80 means it's never been good enough for me. I can't say that I've been happy or excited at the end of these games that I've played. I can play better for sure. And I expect to compete your percentage in 2023. He had he was second at almost 70 percent in 2024. He's 24 pass yards. He was third with four over 4500. Right now he's six and he's 10th. Excuse me. But don't let that fool you because think about how

much they've been behind and they had to throw the ball to get back into the ball game. Uh, pass attempts for a game. He was a seven point no pass yards, uh, attempt. He was six at 7.7, 7.2, which is 17th past TDs. He was 36 time for first. Uh, he has eight right now time for 15th touchdown interception ratio is 36 to nine, which was second right now. He's eight and six, which is time for 23rd. His passer rating was almost one oh six.

And now it's eighty five point five, which is almost 86 percent, which is 21st. So you can see his numbers are down really across the board. And he like you said, he's played, he says average, I think he's played below average. Right. But you put a lot of pressure on your quarterback Ocho when you have no resemblance of a running game and you ask him to just drop back and throw the ball time after time after time. And teams have said, you know what?

Really? You only got one weapon. You don't have anybody else at the skill position that could beat us. You don't have a running back to beat us. You don't have, and I, and I like Ferguson, but you don't have a tight end that can beat us and you don't have anybody outside of a CD that can beat us. Yeah. So we're going to double him and we'll take our chance with Tober.

We'll take our chance with Ferguson, which take our chance with those three running backs because we don't believe anybody outside of a CD can beat us. Office of line don't block particularly well. They don't run block particularly well. They don't pass block particularly well. So boy you in a bind You got to be able to do one of the other pretty good. Oh Joe, right? I say well hell, you know it is bad as bad as the Cowboys have played defensively as bad as they was Subpar as the office had been playing as well

I see them actually coming out the by and having a good game having a good game against the 49ers Who do have a good defense, but they're depleted on the off the end By so much. This is a game that the Cowboys can win. It's a game that they can win, especially if they can get ahead I think they'll be fine. So if you're a betting man, listen to me, you know I'm not saying I had the script or anything But I know and I have a feeling that the Cowboys are gonna come come out They're gonna win this game and probably string string of You know what? I'm not gonna say string a few games along but coming off the bat

I think they don't win this game gets 49 how do you gonna protect them against Leonard Floyd and Bolsa? I'm gonna take them It's even though they might not have the one thing to cut the 49ers can still do is run the football What can't the Cowboys do stop the run. They stop the run. So I think the 49ers feel good. Obviously, they'd love to have their weapons on show. You down, Debo, you down, you down, Jennings. You might be down, Kittle, who has a spring foot.

We'll see how that thing plays out. You were that you without Christian McCaffrey, but you have a solid running game. But would I be surprised to 49ers one? you'll see how that thing plays out. You were without Christian McCaffrey, but you have a solid running game. But would I be surprised if the 49ers won? No, but that's asking an awful lot. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Gronkowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again.

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Barb, I'm great. Life is good. Life is good. God is good. God is great. It's amazing. I'm busy, I'm working. But what we wanna talk about is this project that you got dropping on 11.

What's the date? It's 11, 29, 24, November 29th, 2024. We dropping this new album, it's called Dragon Season. I'm officially announcing this for the first time on your show. Ocho Cinco salute, Shannon Sharp salute. Congratulations also on winning the award for the biggest podcast ever on the BET Hip Hop Awards and all of that.

We gotta get you on, Buzzo. We gotta get you on, bro. We cannot even complete this year without me coming and sitting in the throne and wearing that crown and talking that shit. That's what I love to hear. Looking forward to it, and I salute you, generals, tremendously.

Thank you for having me on tonight to talk about this new album and all of the greatness that's going on with all of us. Well, Ocho said he want that smoke. Ocho said he been in the lab with a pen in the pad. He said he looking for you. Hey, yo, I'm listening. I'm listening to all of this talk.

It sound great though. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, listen, it's one thing I always do, but you know me, I like to talk. But one thing when I do talk, you know, you know me, you know, I like to talk about one thing when I do talk and I do walk it now, when you put a mic in front of me, you know, my penmanship is phenomenal, my penmanship phenomenal. And if you know, every time I visit New York, you know, I always I go around Harlem. I go to the Bronx.

I go all the boroughs to try to find all the battle rap is just to put them in a place and they lucky if it wasn't for football, I'd probably be the best lyricist of all time. And that go for you too. I got the laugh at that. That's just like a fancy song. Still trying to get right. Sound good. I'm gonna keep it a buck with you. Like I was saying a little earlier, you know, and I'm really not into being like a type of dude to repeat myself because I ain't no pride You know, but I like I like to reiterate shit. I'm with every type of smoke, you know

I'm saying I'm still waiting on the verses and I want you to know oh Joe Busses shit front backwards sideways left diagonal acute angle, obtuse angle, however way you want to smoke. You know what I'm saying? I'm with the cigarette smoke. I didn't want to know what type of smoke you with, no bus. I'm with the cigarette smoke, weed smoke, the forest fire smoke, house burning down smoke, whatever type of smoke you want, I'm with it.

So with that being said, do you want to still stay on this particular topic? Because you're going to lose in this conversation alone, even before we get to the bars and shit. Or you want to start talking about something else? Come on, what we do? Not what we do. One thing you're not going to do, you're not going to outtalk me.

You're not going to outtalk me. That's my game. And that's my lane. I've always been famed for doing just that kind of game. So how do you want to do it? We can do it. Huh? Because when I'm done with you, you're going to be a shoe with no laces. This ain't what you're want to do we can do it And when I'm done with you gonna be a shoe with no laces this ain't what they are Say that again say that again brought in here This is my game and I ain't talk about no fame when I'm done with you gonna be a shoe with no laces I'm ahead you grabbing your fingers by your faces. They don't play with me, man. What you talking about?

Your head in your ass, boss. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What you want to do? Yeah.

I'm gonna show you better than I can tell you after I finish plugging this project. Once again, everybody in the whole planet, please be clear. Bust the rhymes. I'm not taking my foot off the whole planet. Please be clear, bust the rhymes. I'm not taking my foot off the gas pedal. Nobody can breathe fresh off of the, fresh off of the Out of This World Tour with my sister, Missy, Mr. Mina Elliott,

my sister, Sierra, my brother, Timbaland, one of the most incredible and successful tours for the entire 2024. I gotta also just let it be known that my brother's tribe called Quest and my beautiful sister Mary J. Blige is playing a hip hop on me and soul. All just got inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this last Saturday. All of these names have been a part of my legacy and I've been deeply into woven into their legacies and all of them have in some way shaped

fashion and formed mold in me to become and evolve into what I am currently and all of that is being put into this new album Dragon season dropping 1129 2024 Thanksgiving night the morning of Black Friday y'all all know what to do not playing no games we ain't showing no mercy and you know I think anybody to start you know just thinking they they plan and start readjusting with the next move and they best move is gonna be because like I said Prisoners is expensive. You know when you compete not just want to put them in the ground You ain't got a harbor nothing. You ain't got the shelter that and close nothing feed nothing just put it in the ground So that's really what we're gonna do when it come to this music and that's in that aspect. Everybody just need to just be careful because they know what

time it is when it comes to bus rhymes. We're gonna be givers of love. But when we respectfully competing, smacking DNA out of everybody paws of their skin. That's really what is what the bottom line is. When it's all said and done. Real talk. when it's all said and done, real talk. I like it. So, Buzz, going back, because you come up in an era where guys competed, guys, you saw LL and Kumo D. You saw guys going at each other. So you had no problem with what transpired this summer

with Kendrick Lamar and Drake. Oh, absolutely not. I thought it was great. I thought it was like for the sport and for the art of respectfully competing, you know, battles could be very disrespectful. Yeah. And you know, for us, as long as it stays on wax, yes, it's fun, it's entertainment, and it's also, you know, still sharp and steel because it could happen to anybody. So, you know know, if you really in this thing and you're trying to classify yourself as a thoroughbred MC

just make sure at any given time when somebody call your name and want to make sure that you About what you say you about that you can write your business and yes That's really what it is And it just was great to see it and it actually to me Might have been probably one of the most incredible battles that I've ever seen since the inception of the hip hop culture. I had fat Joe on the, I had fat Joe and fat Joe said he was disappointed with Jay Cole because they called him off the porch and he didn't come. Joe says that when somebody called you off the porch, you got to see what they talking about. So somebody called Buster off the porch?

You go. There ain't never been a time that I'm not going or that I haven't went. You feel me? As a matter of fact, as a matter of fact, if there ain't no vehicle to pull up to the goal, then the Uber or the lift better be on deck. We pull it up. You better believe that shit. I look forward to shit like that. And I enjoy it because again, as long as it's respectful competition,

and everybody know we ain't gonna take it beyond that, I live for those moments. It's because I come from another one that wasn't no, you know, it wasn't no internet, and it wasn't no social media platforms. And you know, you really didn't even, it wasn't even about the mixtapes. It was just about when you're outside

and motherfuckers see you and they can spit. If a motherfucker, no matter where you were at, you could be in front of a picture spot. If a dude wanna pull up and start carrying on like he wants smoke, you gotta be with the shit. And that's the way that you actually got your buzz. It was word of mouth, it was people actually being in the moment in real time,

watching motherfuckers get busy as real MCs and that's what it that's what I come from. I don't know it no other way You know I'm saying I still live by that. I don't fix what ain't broke. I ain't here to change no rules I ain't here to abandon the foundation that shit was built on I might add a few floors to the skyscraper But we go, you know, we're gonna stay with the foundation. This was built on though. You feel me? Right. Yeah. Bust and being an OG, give us some of your information

because you in the era, you from the NYC, you from where it started. So who were some of the guys that Bust looked up to is like, man, I like that. That's me. That list is long, but I'm gonna go through a few of the names.

Rakim, Slick Rick, K.R. KRS1, RunBMC, LL. Yeah, yeah. Chuck D. Bismonkey. And I'm gonna take it, I'm gonna move a little forward. Let's go from that generation to the generation after. Daylight Soul, Tribe Called Quest. generation to the generation after they like old tribe called quest That's effects

One effects far side, you know what I'm saying? Um diggable planets. Um, yes Let's say uh Let's say a slum village from the D. Hey, Troy. Yeah. Um, let's move on to the next generation. Let's go to, let's go to, uh, Eminem. Yes. Kanye. Um, even Pharrell, because everybody thinks Pharrell just make beats. Pharrell is one of the most venomous MCs when he ready to put his pants to the paper. Um, got the salute Snoop Dogg all day, every every day even on Sunday. Snoop Dogg is dangerous as hell with it too. And let me just big up J Cole. Let me big up Kendrick. Let me big up Tyler the Creator. Let me big up. Did I say Slick Rick earlier? You did. Slick Rick was in that first group. He, KRS, one. Rock him.

Yeah, yeah. And I'm gonna be honest, man. I love some of these new MCs too from the now generation. Like, I'm a fan of Connie Diamond. She's incredible to me. I'm a fan of, I hope I'm saying his name right. This brother's name is Ohesavant.

He's like one of them underground MCs that is one of the most lethal MCs that I've heard in a long time. The incredible female MC, and just dope MC, period. Rhapsody, Missy Elliott, my twin. You know what I'm saying? Like she's the first female MC

to ever be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to this day You know what I'm saying? But beyond just MC and she produced she's responsible for writing the songs for your favorite artists some of the biggest records to this day That's why I don't see missy towing too much because missy getting so much badge from writing everybody else shit She can sit at home and chill with a seat So salute the missy too. And I got a big rod digger the first the first year. Oh, yeah, got a big rod digger. She's unbelievable. And the one thing that I like about

these female MCs, which is it almost feels like an injustice to call them a female MC is because I know a lot of dudes that don't even want no smoke with them. So they just incredible MCs. It ain't even about them being females. But we say that because that's just the term that we was raised to describe our female MCs as. But if you're really asking me, I just think that they dope MCs without the prefix

of the female part added to MC. I just think they are really some of the most dangerous pens in overall just brilliant minds and genius artists Period you know I'm saying but again like I said my list is long and I'll keep going and going and going There's also another new artist by the name of Trillion. That's incredible to me. You know I'm saying BK gutter T-Money, um Jay Doe This is it's like I just like to keep my finger on a pulse of everything and just pay attention to all the different MCs that's not only

surviving the test of time no matter how the music or the culture or the genre or the sound, not the genre, the sound might change. Because that's a testament to the resilience and the consistency and the ability to evolve of the elder statesman and a veteran artist. But I love to make sure that I'm in tune with what's new and fresh because at the end of the day, I also realized that as an elder statesman myself, you can't put a timeline on greatness. You've right.

And we got to show them better than we could tell them. When we say that we got to prove that we able to mean that By not only being dope in every era But being in tune and being aligned with every every every other game I got people growing my phone up seeing us on this stream right now Everybody want to call me right now niggas leave me alone. But in any Everybody want to call me right now. Niggas leave me alone. But in any event, in any event,

my thing is what is extremely important is that we walk in our purpose and we embrace the newer artists and we give them the information and we school them and we lift them up and we support them and make sure that we are establishing a gelling and a glue and a bridge and the gaps and killing that narrative about how,

you know, we ain't really, the respect ain't there the way it's supposed to be. The respect is there tremendously. I think the people that's creating that narrative is the ones that's afraid of that mutual respect that our generations have, because they know we're gonna empower them and make it less likely for these

culture voters to rob them and take advantage of them. So I'm a big advocate of not only doing it myself, which is why I work with a lot of dope new MCs, but I'm a big advocate of making sure that my peers that are also elder statesmen do it. You know, say, oh, I got a big advocate of making sure that my peers that are also elder statesmen do it, you know say oh I got a big up Queen Latifah Big up Shah Rock one of the first female MCs ever. I'm bugging. I'm leaving off names it as they come to me I'm gonna just start blurting it out. But you know, that's that's something that's important primarily to me at this

Time in my career walking in our purpose and making sure that we did for the new artists the way they was there for us. Like Chuck D gave me my name, you know what I'm saying? Chuck D gave us the name leaders of the new school. Big Daddy came to let me come to his crib and ask questions. He put me on his albums, you know what I'm saying? He put me on his Prince of Darkness album and let me rhyme on a joint called Come On Down with me and Q-tip, you know what I'm saying? Um, These brothers really was like they gave us guidance. They helped Give us the understanding that You got to move a certain way, you know, you got to rep the culture a certain way this thing got to be done with integrity

You know I'm saying it's almost weird because it's like at that time, if an MC wasn't really an MC that was respected by the culture or had the right credibility, you know, we're not like that now, but back then we were so pro to culture and the infrastructure and the laws and the principles and the morale and trying to be on the right side of the moral compass of the culture.

That if you wasn't thorough as an MC in the culture, we could be in the same spot. Motherfucker want to introduce you to them, you wouldn't even want to go get introduced to them. Because you ain't even want to be seen standing next to nothing that got whack juice on it. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like, it's the same thing now, but not as intense because we understand it's a different day, it's a different time. But it's always important to encourage MCs and artists that, you know, a lot of artists

they do the rap shit, they're not really looking to be, you know, MC and deep dive into the whole thing about overthinking lyrics and being super surgical with the bars and all of that. Because again, it's a different time and it's simple, the thing is working for a lot of people. And when it's working for them, it's hard to tell them to fix some shit that ain't broke. Exactly.

They get in the bag, doing it their way, boss. That's a fact, and I respect that. And they could be doing some bullshit in the street. So I'm gonna support anything that anyone is doing that is going to be pro-life, pro-self preservation, pro-giving other people opportunity once you're put in position to be the opportunity provider. But we also gotta make sure

that we uphold the integrity of the culture because we gotta make sure people is coming in this shit and doing shit that's gonna add to the culture life add life to it add integrity to it shift the climate in a productive way make sure that we could all still be proud of this shit you know I'm saying don't just come in and try to use this shit just to get what you want for you make sure you doing this shit with that intent but also knowing that this shit is helping you get everything for you It's because of it while you're able to get all of this shit for you

So make sure you be mindful to give a lot back today, you know Yes, let me yeah, I want to ask you this bus you you collab with a lot of people I mean Janet Jackson that song that you had with Janet and you've collab with a lot of people are they anybody who's out there that you haven't collabed with that you like to jump on a beat with? Yo, you sure you ready bro, yeah, I'm ready I'm ready I'm ready We can do this record like I said, I don't want you I don't want no friendship with you while we in the booth, bro I don't want no friendship with you while we in the booth bro. Okay, okay, okay Okay, so as long as you respect that then we gonna get in this doing we gonna Respect that I'm ready. All right, let's get to it. Then y'all stay tuned for the bus of bus and otro cinco collabo. Yeah Hey, I want you to do it to that bus don't let it don't let it. Hey, don't turn it loose. Let me go Shannon

I'm I live by what I say my word bomb regardless of what so I'm telling you you're gonna see it I'm gonna show y'all better than not to tell you and yeah when you get his ass bus and I still put the song up The disclaimer I'm putting it out there from now that we not gonna let Chad we're not gonna let Chad do this And you know, we're not gonna like that. We're not gonna let you know Shenanigans where it's like when he get after he get it give this his whole shit disintegrated in the booth You know, we're not gonna let him do the get him but you know I don't think the song should come out because you know, I don't know if I'm really proud of my performance or no excuses It ain't gonna be no copping. I like it. We're gonna be none of that bro

So whatever we end up with if you want to go back and rewrite that's fine It's gonna be none of that, bro. So whatever we end up with, if you wanna go back and rewrite, that's fine. You know, I done been in, I done did songs with artists where we send each other the verses and, you know, when one motherfucker feel like they getting cooked, they go back and start adding shit.

And then, you know, when you feel like you gotta go back and just, this is what it is. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Rob Granckowski. Guess what, folks? We're teammates again. And we're gonna welcome you guys all to Dudes on Dudes. I'm a dude, you're a dude, and Dudes on Dudes is our brand new show.

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And Makeba said, I'm black and I'm proud. Black boxing stars and black music royalty together in the heart of Zaire, Africa. Three days of music and then the boxing event. What was going on in the world at the time made this fight as important that anything else is going on on the planet. My grandfather laid on the ropes

and let George Foreman basically just punch himself out. Welcome to Rumble, the story of a world in transformation. The 60s and prior to that, you couldn't call a person black. And how we arrived at this peak moment. I don't have to be what you want me to be. We all came from the continent of Africa.

Listen to Rumble, Ali, Foreman, and the Soul of 74 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I don't have to do that, right? I've been cooking. I've been cooking for six years. What you talking about? I got this with a squiz it. I got exquisite penmanship.

What you talking about, man? I mean, I'm trying to see what you talking about. Everybody know what I'm talking about. I've been talking and shit. I've been talking about it. I've been talking about it. I've been talking about it. I've been talking about it. I've been talking about it. I've been talking about it. I've beenquisite penmanship. Get him, bud. I got exquisite penmanship. What you talking about, man? I mean, I'm trying to see what you talking about. Everybody know what I'm talking about.

I've been talking and showing improvement for 34 years. I ain't seen shit from your side of the motherfucking fence, Playboy. Where you at? Where you at right now? Right now I'm in the West Coast moving and shaking. You know, it don't really matter. Okay, I'm on the West Coast. I'll pull up on you right now.

What's happening? Okay, cool. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to get off this. When we finish with this, I'm going to let you know the studio don't really matter. I'm on the West Coast. I'll pull up on you right now. What's happening? Okay, cool. So this is what we're going to do. We're going to get off this. When we finish with this, I'm going to let you know the studio I'm at because I'm actually going to the studio right now. That's what I'm talking about, boss.

Get him. I'm going to the studio now. Get him, boss. The session started since eight o'clock, bruh. Okay. Okay. So that's what we're doing. I'm going to see you tonight. Wait, hold on.

You in LA? I'm in LA, bro. No, I'm in LA right now. I'm in Westwood. Good. You five minutes from where I'm at, I'm in Westwood. That's what I'm talking about, bud. Get him. I'm in Westwood. Get him. Yeah. I'm in Westwood. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So y'all heard it first. You know, Shannon said who's the MCs that you ain't worked with before that you want to work with. I guess, you know, Ocho Shinko was the first one and I work with that we're talking about now. So that's number one on the list. I haven't worked with Big Sean yet. You know, I haven't recorded with me and Jake Cole. We got something, but I ain't put it out yet. So, but you know, I still want to do more work with Jake Cole. I'm a big fan of Jake Cole. I'm a huge fan of Kendrick. I did work with him, but still want to do more work with J. Cole. I'm a big fan of J. Cole. I'm a huge fan of Kendrick. I did work with him, but I want to do more with him. But I definitely want to work with Connie Diamond.

I definitely want to do some work with these brothers called Coast Contra. They some new MCs from the West Coast. And they are phenomenal. It's like I see myself in them when they get busy. Want to definitely work with those brothers. Like it's like the way they perform and the way they, the animation is like I see young Buster rhymes when I look at them. You know what I'm saying?

And I definitely want to get busy with those brothers. So big up the coast contract. Um, and, um, there's and um there's a bunch of new dope mcs that i want to get with and really cook some dope shit in the studio with and maybe even just executive some of some of their projects executive produce some of their projects you know just be able to be a even if you're not actually collaborating on records together i just feel like with all of this incredible information that I've been blessed to receive over the years

and throughout time, I just want the opportunity to just share that shit. Give the dudes and the females, the artists that's really doing anything, the opportunity to just take this information and make it theirs and evolve that shit into something else that's even more magic for the culture. That's the type of shit I'm on.

You know what I'm saying? But let me ask you this. Yeah. Give me your NYC, your New York Mount Rushmore. You get four heads, bus. You get four. All right. Put four on there.

Who you got? Nas is number one. Rod Kim is number two. I got two spots left. You got two spots, Bust, make it good. KRS one, Big Daddy Kane, you got LL, you got Ho. You gotta come on with it. Why is it only four, man?

That's because that's all we got on my Rushmore. This shit is all- I tell you what I do. Since it's you, I give you five spots, give you five. All right, cool. Nas, no, Rock Cannon, Nas, Big Daddy Kane. Big Daddy Kane, that's three. You got Biggie, you got Ho, you got KRS-1.

Do I include me? You can include you, the damn right you can. Buster Rhymes is on that motherfucker, and the last one, it's gonna have to be a toss up between hole and big Okay, I like that. I like that. It's gonna have to be a toss up between hole and big. Word. You know what I got one question before you go. Alright King. What's the best advice you receive throughout your career? The best advice you receive throughout your career and who gave it to you? The best advice that I've received out of my entire career and my life for that matter was that the Most High has blessed me with every

single gift imaginable and unfathomable and don't ever be selfish enough to sit your ass at home and wait for that same God to come and give you food because you already have every blessed gift that could be bestowed upon you to go and get it for yourself and so many others and once I realized that I was told understand that power and it comes with great responsibility, because you are made in a likeness of the Most High, which means you are almost like the Most High. Go out there and show the people and show the world better than you could tell them

that you are in the likeness of the most high period. And that came from my mom's, from a Christian perspective, because she was 70 adventures Christian. She is 70 adventures Christian, excuse me. She's still here. Rest in peace to my pops. But I also got that from this brother that was a part of the 5% nation of the gods and earths,

and his name was God Khalid Falah and when I was around 12 years old I used to watch the Transformers on TV before I went to school in the morning and I used to watch Ultron and shit before I went to school in the morning and these cartoons would come on like between seven o'clock in the morning and eight o'clock it's just like a half an hour each so like you know when you sit in a crib and you're looking at the TV and you see him the Transformers for example and you see Megatron and he flying down from space and all these superpowers this robot got an optimist climb and sound wave star screen and all of them

right and then you're looking at these dudes with these names, as these robots on TV and they're super powerful. And it's the Transformers. But then you leave out the crib and you go to the little store on the corner. And all of the corner stores in the hood was owned by like Spanish dudes. And we ain't know everybody name in the deli,

so everybody name was Poncho. So you might go, yo Poncho, Pancho, it could be a female. We'd be like, excuse me, sweetheart Pancho, could you get me some Charleston Trolls, or could you get me some bubble yum candy, or, you know? So what would happen is the guards would be in front of the store early in the morning, and they would be over there with names like Lord Victorious

and Supreme Justice and Magnetic Divine and you know these names reminded me of the Transformers and shit and then they was talking about how fast the sound travel and how much the earth weigh in and what's the total square mileage of the planet and the total square mileage of land and water and I was looking at them like, what y'all come from outer space. Y'all talking about how much the earth weighting, then teaching this, this shit in school, we are getting this shit from, and they was called the gods. And this is where I was learning a lot of things from that nowhere else was teaching young black youth at the time about who you were as black people.

And it was important to me that I latched on to this information because it felt like I was really being powered up like a Pac-Man video game when he eat the power pellet because I had information that I was storing Just from listening to these dudes talk that would take me to school or that I would go to school with and I would start questioning teachers in the shit that they was you know, whatever their curriculum was that they was teaching and They matter if it was social studies or science class or math and I would really get into some shit like

Why you don't why you teach us the same shit about Frederick Douglass and Martin Luther King and Malcolm X every month? Why you won't teach us about these brothers that I know about from the street corner, from these brothers that I'm building with or that I'm seeing building with each other? And why you always talk about, you know, things that is like a repetitive thing, like it ain't even about the growth

it's almost like a force forcing the stagnation on us because It ain't you ain't teaching me shit. That's really useful in anything in life like It would just Treat me so I would question shit and it would seem like I would be in the Disruptive challenge school right? I was being disrespectful to the curriculum like I was being the disruptive child in school. I was being disrespectful to the curriculum and I was being told to stop interrupting and stop asking questions. It just made me feel like, all right, this is really not a pro-me establishment, but

you know, we're going to still go and we're going to do what we got to do, but I'm going to get this information and I'm going to apply it and I'm going gonna share it through the other ways and the other abilities that I have. So from making music, to making sure that I get to communicate with my peers and share the information when I see them, making sure that I'm able to give it to the generations after me, that's how I feel like I'm doing my duty and fulfilling my obligation with walking with my purpose in life. to me. That's how I feel like I'm doing my duty and fulfilling my obligation with

walking with my purpose in life. And I just feel like it's important to apply that even outside of that level of information and science, when it just come to common sense and right and wrong, share that shit with people so they have the right perspective because you know, 30 seconds of a pulse of emotional shit that you can't or that you're not controlling the right way at the time could become a 30-year sentence in jail. So you know as my brother Shabazz would always say you know that 30 seconds of not controlling your emotion that could put you in jail

for 30 years, learn how to just master that and a lot of times it just takes a good couple of conversations to change the whole dynamic of someone's perspective and way of thinking. Bust, we gotta get you outta here on this one cause we got someone else in the chat. We appreciate it. Go check out Bust. He's dropping his album.

11, 29, 24. Dragon season. Thanksgiving, dragons. There he is on the screen. Dragon season. Dragon season. Bust, we appreciate it. Hey, TV, film, music career, continue success, my brother, and we'll see you down the road.

Thank you, Shannon. Thank you, Chad. Salute. Yes, sir. Chad, for real, send me that line. Let's get in the studio. Don't run from me now, sucker. Yeah.

I got you. I got you. Buzz, get him. I got you. Salute. Appreciate that, Buzz. Love y'all. Love.

Guys, we got another guy in the chat right now. Is he ready to go? We got another guy in the chat. No, we good, he say two seconds. We're two seconds away. Guys, we really hope you guys enjoy Bust the Rhymes. Met Bust on a couple of occasions. He's unbelievable.

He is a man of his word. Hey, just like you hear him talk, that's him. That's his voice. 24-7. That name Bust the Rhymes, there was an actual guy named Buster rhymes he was a running back at the University of Oklahoma I remember it I'm Julian Edelman I'm Rob Granckowski and we are super excited to tell you about our new show, Dudes on Dudes. We're spilling all the behind-the-scenes stories,

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