Club Shay Shay - Nightcap - Hour 1: Cowboys family drama, Coen back on Jags, Andrews apologizes

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to reports that the Dallas Cowboys’ push to hire Brian Schottenheimer was Stephen Jones’ idea. Later, Unc and Ocho discuss Tam...pa Bay Buccaneers OC Liam Coen going MIA on the Bucs and reportedly discussing a deal with the Jaguars to become the next HC in Jacksonville, Baltimore Ravens TE Mark Andrews publicly apologizing for dropping the ball on what would've been a game-tying two-point conversion and much more!04:00 - Show start14:13 - Cowboys34:00 - Jaguars45:43 - Mark Andrews apologies56:30 - Eagles issue warning to Commanders(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.) #Volume #ClubSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:13 Seriously, visit BoostMobile.com or your nearest Boost Mobile store location to learn more. Boost Mobile Network together with our roaming partners covers 99% of the U.S. population. 5G speed not available in all areas. Hello ladies and gentlemen and thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. Y'all know me, I'm your favorite up, Shannon Sharp, the Liberty City legend, the bingo ring of fame artery, the pro bowler, the all pro, that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. Please make sure you hit that subscribe button, please make sure you hit that like button and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from. We want to sincerely thank you Ocho and I and Team Nightcap for all your podcast from. We want to sincerely thank you, Ocho and I, and Team Nightcap for all your continued support.
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Starting point is 00:05:55 Some interesting, they got Ocho in there trying to hog up, he trying to be Suge Knight, trying to dominate Humble Baddies. All in the background, all dancing, doing all doing so much, which was totally unnecessary. But you know what? He proud of his baby and we are too. Congratulations, Rael and the Humble Baddies crew tonight. And you can catch them.
Starting point is 00:06:19 They had their first live show tonight. So hopefully you guys enjoyed that. The Coving Company 84 that did stuff like this and Unc and Ocho T's, we came out with a new line last month. T-shirts, sweats, binnies, koozies, and mugs. Quantities are limited, so please make sure you grab yours while supplies last. Tickets for the first Super Bowl stop show is our first spring tour stop, and the tickets are on sale now. The link is pinned at the top of the chat.
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Starting point is 00:07:20 Club Shae Shae was nominated for Outstanding Podcasts, Society and Culture. Please go vote for Unken Ocho, myself also at Club Shaehey was nominated for Outstanding Podcast, Society and Culture. Please go vote for Unc and Ocho, myself also at Club Shashey. The link is pinned in our social bios. Before we get into it, Ocho and I, I'm ecstatic to announce we have a new title sponsor. I don't know if you guys can see the sign back there.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Now it is Nightcap, sponsored by Bruce Mobile. And this is the Boost Mobile Studio. Thank you, Boost, for your belief in Ocho and I. Thank you, Boost. Mike. Y'all gonna clean this issue up too. I just want y'all to know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I'm glad. I hope it blow up in your face. Y'all gonna clean this issue up. I knew y'all was playing this. Y'all done got this issue all in my drink. Drink it, it's just confetti. Drink it. See, they be doing too much of it, y'all.
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Starting point is 00:08:44 You better not F this up, because we responded, we waited to this day to put the signs up and to make the announcement. And hold on, now when you go to the airport, you always tweeting out or IG who want to pick their boy up from the airport. Can somebody come in there and hang that issue up on the wall? Oh, issue by the booze motor sign? Yeah. Oh, you mean by the booze mobile sign? Yeah. Oh, it's right here.
Starting point is 00:09:06 It's right here. Oh, your watch sign ain't on the wall. Because I had a dude, I had a dude that was going to hang it up on me, right? But I asked him how much I'm going to charge him, he told me about $250. I said, God damn, $250 to hang the sign up. I said, I'll do it myself. But I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself.
Starting point is 00:09:14 I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, I'll do it myself. I said, asked him how much he gonna charge me, he told me about 250. I said, God damn, $250 I ain't gonna sign up. I said, I'll do it myself. But I ain't have a- Well, clearly you ain't do it yourself. Hold on, matter of fact,
Starting point is 00:09:33 I'm gonna do it right now while we lying, hold on. I tell you what, you better not cost us this deal or we gonna fight for real. Damn the 5200. You don't wanna say, huh? damn the 5200 we are uh you know what yeah I do I have to deal up yes I do we don't fight every day hold on what you gonna get your ass who bear dated that's okay I bet I bring your family together we're the last time all the kids saw each other? All the time, every holiday. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:06 And Chauncey? Yeah? This man here, y'all? That with me, chat? Hold no, I got a turbo light on Oh, you don't know what the hell you doing Oh You crooked. Man, send the sign down before you break it. And I hope Boos Mobile not watching tonight because we're both supposed to have the signs
Starting point is 00:10:53 up and effing around with you. Okay, I'm gonna do a show like this. Go ahead. Chat, y'all see. Y'all see what I'm talking about, Chad? Lord, have mercy. Hey, listen. I'ma do the show like this.
Starting point is 00:11:17 Come on, let's go. Oh, we asked, Ocho. Ocho, they gave us two weeks. You had to sign, Ocho. I've been out of town. I just got here last night. Ocho, when you thought I got here? When you got there? This morning.
Starting point is 00:11:34 I know, but you got a team of people. Remember, my assistant left me. She dumped me two months ago. No, no. Call people like when you need the airport, you don't want to pay for Uber because you cheat. All you got to do is go on Twitter, go on IG, say who want to hang a sign? Well, see, no, you can't. You don't have strangers coming to your house. That is like- Oh, you jumping to a stranger's car? What the hell? What they gonna do to me in the car? When they come to my house, they can do something to me. They can rob me. They can do something to your ass in the car. I don't know if you ever heard. I don't know. Maybe that's not a thing now,hiking. Have you ever heard of the uh the co-ed? Nah. Edmund Kemper. When you get an
Starting point is 00:12:13 opportunity Google it. Okay well we gonna- In really Lucas. When you get off the jet Google it. Right. Theodore Bundy Google it. Arthur Shawcross, Google it. Hey, everybody you just named, I beat their ass too. Okay. That is bad here. All we ask is, Booth, thank you so much. We are greatly, greatly appreciative of this opportunity to represent your company. Thank you, Booth.
Starting point is 00:12:42 For you to believe in Ocho and I and the entire family at Nightcap, we greatly, greatly appreciate this opportunity. Um, Ocho, this was a long time coming. All of our hard work is starting to pay off. And this is what I, and this is what I told you, Ocho. Let's not worry about what they say. Let's worry about what we do. This is sir. This is the this is the first of many Blessings. Yeah, but see, you know, my grandma said boy. Sometimes you got to be prepared to receive a blessing. Well now
Starting point is 00:13:17 This is this What we're receiving is that this is what we've worked for since 23. When we came, when I called you and I said, Hey, Ocho Doug, get Ocho. And you say, Oh, don't tell me nothing else. If you going to be a part of it, I want to be a part of it because I trust you. I'm with you. I have to let the wheels fall off and they ain't going to fall off. We going to keep going.
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Starting point is 00:14:13 Oh. I appreciate you was movable, but it's shit heavy, boy. Yeah, it's supposed to be on the wall. Yeah, my wall, uh. Yeah, I'm gonna call the man. I'm gonna call the man tomorrow. He gonna have to hang this up, but this, uh, yeah, I'm gonna call him in. I'm gonna call him in tomorrow. You're gonna have to hang this up, but it's a bit, but it's a thing heavy, boy. I've been in the woods.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But let's get into it. But thank you, Boost Mobile Nightcap, sponsored by Boost Mobile, and welcome to the Boost Mobile studio. Ocho has this signed Boost Mobile, so we have two studios that we will shoot from. I'm so excited about this opportunity. Thank you so much again, Boost Mobile. So we have two studios that we will shoot from. I'm so excited about this opportunity. Thank you so much again Boos Mobile. And let's get into the store. I mean, let's get into the show. Oh Joe, the Cowboys push to hire Brian Schottenheimer was Stephen Jones' idea. Sources inside the star is that Jerry is butting heads with his son, Stephen, on Schottenheimer. Jerry would like to make a push for Coach Prid,
Starting point is 00:15:07 but Stephen is all in on Brian Schottenheimer. Ocho, what is the problem with Coach Prid? Hey, I think... Hey, I don't listen. You know and I know I don't I don't think it will. Jerry actually signing prime I think would be the worst decision he can make. I would love trying to be the coach of the Dallas Cowboys, but I understand the issues that Jerry would have with someone like Deion Sanders coming there.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Not allowing Prime to have full control of everything, allowing him to pick his staff, allowing him to be the coach that he needs to be, for him to have the success that he needs to have. And obviously, Jerry also wanted to be center of attention, but that's not going to happen once Deion Sanders walks through that building, the limelight, the tension is all going to go to him. And I think Jerry going to resent that. He had an issue with it. Like you told me,
Starting point is 00:16:14 obviously I wasn't aware of it when Jimmy Johnson was the coach of Dallas Cowboys and they were winning and he and Jerry, not Jerry, Jimmy Johnson was getting all the credit and Jerry wasn't. The same thing is going to happen with Deion Sanders if he walks into Jerry's world times 10. Matter of fact, times 20, it's going to be even worse. So I don't see it as a good fit. And also I don't like the, I don't like Brian being there as a cowboy, even though he played for the Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:16:43 It just, I just don't like it. I just don't like that him and Jerry, they're going to, they're going to buttboys. It just, I just don't like it. I just don't like that him and Jerry, they're gonna butt heads. It just, not a good night. Can I give you my honest opinion? Yes, sir. I believe it's all a smokescreen. I don't believe Jerry want to have a coach for I'm all anyway. This is the way to get around the Rooney. Oh, we were serious about hiring
Starting point is 00:17:04 because remember, they brought Eddie George into Chicago. Remember they brought two coaches, they brought Byron Lefwich, they brought David Shaw, they brought a couple into New England. And everybody said, man, that was a farce. Y'all had no intentions whatsoever. Me personally, and I could be wrong, and I hope I'm wrong. Just spoke to Coach Prime today about something else. Didn't mention anything about that. But I don't believe Jerry Jones is serious because he's never been serious about how, so now all of a sudden he's going
Starting point is 00:17:34 to be serious. Like they haven't ever been competent black coaches that was qualified be it an, they're in a whole lot of OCsCs I mean, I can't think of a book maybe one really black OC that's to help Hamilton Chad if you could help me out say there's more more times than not there on the defensive side of the football With that being said Jerry has never shown a propensity Or he particularly like oh, you know, he tried it Marvin Lewis and then when he had no inclination of hiring him. To give Marvin that job. And so I believe this is a smoke screen.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Just like, look, hey, he was serious because everybody knows the best. Cause think about it, they brought Eddie George in on Saturday, what you call him lose on a Saturday and Ben Johnson got the job on a Monday. Let you know it wasn't serious. The same thing with New England. They caught all these black coaches in there.
Starting point is 00:18:32 And look, Chad, I want y'all to understand. I don't have a problem. I'm not saying when you spend that kind of money for a franchise that someone should tell you who you can and can't hire. But I'm saying some of the criteria that you've used in what you said, I want a guy that did X, Y, and Z. And that was one of the reasons why you didn't
Starting point is 00:18:53 have a black candidate. You disregard that when it comes to a white candidate. So that's all I'm saying. It is your team. I'm not saying you should or you shouldn't, but I'm saying just hold the standard the same. If you're looking for somebody on the defensive side that had previous head coaching experience,
Starting point is 00:19:12 let's do that. If you're looking for somebody to be your head coach that had any coaching experience, let's go with that. But this notion that you switch it up according to who the candidate is. That's where you lose me. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Stars. So where else are you gonna find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything,
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Starting point is 00:23:28 watched the game of football for about the years, the fact that we even have to have a winning rule in itself in 2025 tells you all you need to know. It tells you all you need to know. Obviously, we as minorities don't get the coaching positions that we want as far as being the leader, the leader of young men, being in positions of power, being able to lead team because they don't view us as as candidates for that position. They love to see us as offensive coordinators, they love to see us as defensive coordinators, and that's just the way it's been. It's the way it's been for a very long time. Now there have
Starting point is 00:24:03 been coaches that have been in fortunate situations, like Mike Tomlin. Marvin Lewis had his tenure, obviously in Cincinnati for 16, 17 years for that matter. But the fact that we have to have a running rule in place, it just lets you know that they really don't see us in those types of positions. They just don't. And still to this day, because they're doing it right up under our nose, blatantly as possible, and you can see it clear as day, and you know what? We're gonna check the boxes. We don't really want to hire them, but we're gonna do it because we have to follow the rules.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Correct. Check the boxes, bring them in for interview, really have no intention on hiring them, just to say, look, we tried. Now, I never thought of the scenario that you just came up with, with it being Smoke and Mirrors, when Jerry just mentioned in Prime, what we knew what it was that Marvin Lewis going in, knew what it was where Eddie George going in. But now that you said the whole thing with Prime, but being Smoke and Mirrors, Jesse,
Starting point is 00:25:03 you know, I really don't want to do it because he understands what would happen if Prime was walking that door and walking that building. But for me, I, you know, I'll try to end the chat talking about with Shannon, you didn't hire all black. No, I don't think you should hire any all of one thing. But if you go look at, you look at the people that's on Shannon Sharpe's payroll, there is a very diverse group. There's men, women, there's black, white, Latino.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I don't know preference. I don't ask them, what's your orientation? Cause I don't give a damn. Can you do the job? I don't care if you sleep with a goat. Hey, and when it comes to, hey, bring your significant other to work, bring his ass or bring her ass to work. As long as you do the job, that's all I care about.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I don't care about anything else. Long as you respect, job, that's all I care about. I don't care about anything else. Long as you respect, hey, we work together, there's 23, 24 employees that we have. As long as y'all respect each other, and y'all respect me, we good. But you never gonna say, I don't have a diverse group because I got a very, very diverse group. Black, white, Latino, women, men.
Starting point is 00:26:06 I don't know if it's straight, I don't know if they straight, and I don't give a damn about anything about that. But I know when I look at them, I know what I see. And I'm very proud of what we've been able to do, not only at Club Shashey, but not only at Nightcap, but Club Shashey also. So we good on that.
Starting point is 00:26:21 I'm not saying, see,all. Yeah, here's the thing Sometimes just close your mouth and open your ears I'm not saying I hire who I believe is the most qualified right black white Latino Asian man woman. I don't have stipulations like okay If it's a man, he needs to have these qualifications. If it's a woman, you need to have this qualifications. When we open up a job,
Starting point is 00:26:51 we're going to hire the most qualified, who we believe that's gonna be able to do the best job. They might have one year experience, they might not be experienced at all, but they have a great understanding of social media digitally. That's what we're going for. I Think my record speaks for itself Yes, as a matter of fact, oh Joe one of our employees is a quadriplegic
Starting point is 00:27:18 Not no handout. He does his job. Yeah Another one we reached we got her the internet, got her off social media. I'm like, you got all these damn classy, you got all these classy comebacks and you always come in, you want a job? I don't believe in handout. But I will extend my hand and help you allow you to pull yourself up. So that's where we are right now. Like I said, I don't have a problem.
Starting point is 00:27:48 And I've been very, very clear when it comes to these owners in these organizations, you spend a billion dollars, you spend three, four, five, six billion dollars. I don't believe anybody should say, hire him because he's black, hire her because he's a woman. I believe you should hire the most qualified. A lot of times, Ocho, we feel comfortable with the circles that we travel in. When you're around a bunch of guys,
Starting point is 00:28:16 a bunch of white guys, you feel comfortable with those people. When you're around a bunch of women, you feel comfortable with those people. And plus, Ocho, a lot of times, you know, in our group, we talk and our friends with people that look like us, that talk like us, that think like us. Yeah. Take something special for you to get outside of that and to see, okay.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Because if everybody just did the status quo, if I just hired black people, or if somebody just hired white people, damn, we back in the 60s. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't think that's... I don't think... I mean, personally, I don't think that's good. I'm always gonna be for qualifications. And I'm proud of that. That's why I like sports.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Because once you... I mean, it used to be that, and I used to be, hey, the coach's son got an opportunity to play, but winning has become so prevalent, prevalent is that that's what we, that's what we do. Right. I don't give a damn what color you is. You see what they got in the, uh, the final four, how many black quarterbacks we got on show my homeboy black jail black. Jayler Hurts, black. Jane Daniels, black. Three of the four.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah. 15 years ago, 20 years ago, that was unheard of. Yeah. How many black quarterbacks started this season? You see what happens when you give somebody an opportunity? Excuse me. They wasn't even giving them opportunities. You don't know what a person can or can't do
Starting point is 00:29:44 if you don't give them an opportunity. Oh, nah, you know, hey, you can't think on your feet. You can't process information. Yeah, I'm gonna give you an opportunity. It just wasn't long ago they did the same thing in Lamar. Yes, they tried to turn the man into a running back. It's all about paying attention to the undertone. Pay attention to the undertone. Why would you want him to play running back? Why would you want him to switch the receiver? Because in college, he played quarterback and he played it very God damn well.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Now all of a sudden, making the transition into the NFL, now we want you to, how about you try out the running back position? Boy, you love being on TV. You done hooked on this. You know, you, you don't, you don't hook on this. What's up, twin? You know, they didn't get his, they didn't get his shot. You love fame.
Starting point is 00:30:31 They didn't get his shot. Yeah, I see. Bro, I know I just got back and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. What? I can't get you and talk. I'm gonna get you your own talk show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:44 You talking about pass and talk about how you go on walks. How you uh you in the backyard you be running. You be standing on the fence looking at the nate in the neighbor's backyard being nosy. That'd be a good one. Uh uh, show tightest no-cho. But uh, no that's just me-o-cho. Like I said, I could be totally off base. Right. And if I'm wrong, Lord forgive me. But honestly, based on Jerry Jones' history and his words, what am I supposed to do with that? We wasn't hiding any folk, man.
Starting point is 00:31:17 I see better than I hear. Yeah. Yeah. They'll say your dream, man. Yeah, but it's gonna be really interesting to see. Brian Schottenheimer, he's, look, I played against his daddy for a number of years. One year he was my coach at the Pro Bowl,
Starting point is 00:31:38 so I have nothing but respect for that family. But wasn't Brian Schottenauer the OC one time in Dallas? If I'm not mistaken, he might have been the, was he the OC on the McCarthy? Okay, he's the, he's the, he's the, he's the, oh, he's the current OC Ocho. Yeah. For me, I thought it was, and think about it, I thought it was always Kellen Moore's job to lose. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Kellen showed like running the ball in Philly. Yeah. For somebody that said, hey, the reason why they fired him, it was because he didn't run the ball enough and he threw the ball too much. Yeah. Well, you also got to understand, look, we got to work with over there in Philly, you know, so it's kind of different. Dallas doesn't have a Saquon.
Starting point is 00:32:39 I'm not saying they were anything. Well, then how do you expect him to run the ball with what he had? He had Zeke. You saw Zeke was running like he was pulling a plow for the last three, four years. Tony Paulen leaves. He gets carrots. He goes to Tennessee, gets him a band. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Now, they found a guy. They got a little gym in Rico Doudal. I like him. He came on strong, playing really, really well. But would you rather have Rico or would you rather have Derek Henry? Hmm. Oh, well, it's hard for me to believe that if Derek Henry got 1300 yards, 1400 yards with Tanny Hill and those quarterbacks and
Starting point is 00:33:27 Will Levis, you think, you don't think you could do that with Dak? Are you telling me Dak is not better than Will Levis? He's not better than Willis? Yep. He would have got it. Of course he would have. Jerry said he didn't have the money. Look at the free agents.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Look at the free agents they bought in. Minimum contracts. Stuff they could easily get rid of. Right. Not winning like that, Ocho. You might find a guy, you get a guy on a minimum contract and he outplays that contract, but when you play guys like that, you normally gonna get that.
Starting point is 00:34:00 So this all in notion that Jared took my, oh, I'm going all in, Jared was never all in. He was never. He just got y'all food But he's gonna have to break bread Michaels come Michael Parkinson's gonna Command a big contract and rightfully so He's been to the Pro Bowl every year. He's been a couple of times all pro what three times I think three time all pro first team all pro All-Pro, what, three times? I think three times All-Pro, first team All-Pro, uh, two or three times
Starting point is 00:34:25 he was defensive rookie of the year. So his resume speaks for itself and he commands a big dollar. Um, but that's me personally. I don't think Jerry's serious. I don't think Jerry's serious about hiring coach Braun because coach Brian, first of all, if, if Colorado had did what they were supposed to do. Coach Brian wouldn't even be entertaining this. Y'all need to go and break bread.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Now you was one and 11 and the man flipped it around with what foreign, whatever the case was and then nine and four and then went to a ball game. Y'all got to go in and break your balls now. Make, make the money right. Make the money right. Y'all what you got in for, you're gonna probably have to double that. Yeah. I don't know the numbers. I don't know how much Coach Prime is making. Like I said, we don't talk about that. We talk about a lot of others today,
Starting point is 00:35:16 a whole lot of foolishness. But with that being said, hey, he's clearly shown himself to be a top level coach and you're going to have to pay him accordingly. Yeah. Listen, the proof is in the pudding and it ain't, it ain't changing. It ain't spoiling no time soon. He wants to be there, but you got to make it a situation where he doesn't want to leave. Yeah, you got to make it a situation where he doesn't want to leave. Yeah, you got to. I mean, I understand that he loves,
Starting point is 00:35:49 I mean, he loves being in Boulder. He loved his AD, Rick. Yeah. But at the end of the day, football is a business. It's a business. I was just getting ready to say that. It's still a business and you got to pay me. You got to pay me like I way. Hey, what do you think I'm going to do moving forward?
Starting point is 00:36:13 Okay. The one, the four and whatever season we had, the nine and four season, we got a Heisman Trophy winner. We had a quarterback that went, I think, the Johnny United's award. I think that's what she doing one. One, uh, we went to a bowl game. Okay. Moving forward.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Either you do or you don't think I'm worth a certain number. Yeah. Got to, and the number is going to have to start with a double digit. And look, what he done for them as well. Forget the football. I mean, I understand the football part, but academically where everybody, everybody had over 3.0, you know? So not only is Prime having them boys handle the business on the field, they handle the
Starting point is 00:36:55 business in the classroom as well. Ocho, in a crazy turn of events, the Jacksonville Jaguars are finalizing a deal to hire Bucks offensive coordinator, Liam Cohen, as their next head coach. The move comes after Cohen agreed to an extension with the Buccaneers and removed himself from consideration for the Jags' job. Cohen met with Jaguars on Thursday to discuss the vacancy despite the news of his return to Tampa, which would have made him the highest paid coordinator in NFL history. Jacksonville reportedly reached out to Cohen after the team fired Trent Bonky to see if he would reconsider the offer.
Starting point is 00:37:33 And, uh, after their talks, it appears Jacksonville has their guy. Well, I like it. I liked it. And the fact that the fact that he chose to leave, even though the bucks were going to make him the highest paid offer the coordinator. You know, they will make it by deal. We'll make more than we were gonna make it a Jags.
Starting point is 00:37:51 I figure he gonna make at least $7 million with the Jags. The highest paid coordinator probably make him make $3 million. We remember we just talked about spaggnolla making 3.5. And no, that's that's what I'm just saying. But if they if they if they're telling him to leave the job, they want you to reconsider, I'm just allowing him to reset the market on whatever it is. No, they're gonna ask him to,
Starting point is 00:38:15 no, the Jags ask him to reconsider. Right. So they're gonna give him a head coaching job, which would probably be somewhere around 7 million. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers was only gonna give give him 3 million, $3, $4 million. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Yeah. Now I'm just saying, okay, I had it backwards, but I knew he was right. Right. Yes. Yes. More Jacksonville. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Absolutely. Okay. Okay. Okay. And look, and you're over everything. You're, you know, you're responsible. I mean, the head coach comes with a lot of responsibilities. Yes, you're not, you're not responsible for one side of the ball. You're responsible. I mean, the head coach comes with a lot of responsibilities.
Starting point is 00:38:45 You're not responsible for one side of the ball. You're responsible for the whole ball. Office, defense, special teams. When are we going to practice? What time are we going to meet? Okay. What's the training? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:57 As far as wait schedule. Okay. Injured players. What time do they have to be there? How long is the meeting going to last? What time are they have to be there? How long the meeting go last? What time are we going to leave Ocho for road trips? Where are we going to stay? All that goes on the head coaches.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Right. So congratulations. I mean, I hate it for Baker because Baker had really under his guidance. Yeah. Baker was Baker had Baker had looked like the Baker that they took that the reason why they took it with the number one overall pick I think in 2016, the last two years he showed you why. And a lot of that had to do, I believe had to do with Liam Cohen, not to say
Starting point is 00:39:38 Baker doesn't have talent because obviously you go first overall, you got talent. But I think he had found someone that believed in him that had an office that was really catered to what he does really well He had nice quality receivers outside with Mike Evans, even though Chris Godwin got hurt this year the young guys had come along I love the running backs that they got but I Hate this. I hate this for Baker But I'm excited for someone to get an opportunity to be a head coach because Hey, last two years, he's done a great job as an OC for Tampa and he's getting rewarded for his hard work. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:16 That's dope. So what do you think Ocho? You, you like to move? Oh yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Listen, if he can do, if, if,. Absolutely. Listen, if he can do what he did for Baker, imagine what he would do for Trevor Lawrence. Baker Mayfield had Mike Evans. Now, young bullies are stirred over there in Jacksonville now. I don't know if y'all paid attention to Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:40:42 but he's the reason he's in the Pro-. Yeah, there's a reason he's in the propo. So that magic he had in tempo with Baker and Mike Evans has always been Mike Evans. But I'm sure you can create that same magic between Trevor Lawrence and get him turned around. You know, after getting that huge Mayday and Brian Tomlin jr. There go your security blanket right
Starting point is 00:41:02 there. There go your security blanket right there. Yeah, they go your security bang right there And then go your security blame bigsby I think you probably do a little bit more with the offensive line sure that up. Yeah Um, I think they got a pretty good defense. Maybe uh, look at look at a corner. Look at uh, look you got a high draft pick You got a quarterback you don't need a quarterback. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick on a wide receiver. I wouldn't spend a high draft pick on a tight end. I don't know if there's anyone that's worthy to be selected. If they're an offensive lineman that's worthy of a pick that high, probably not.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Maybe a defensive lineman, maybe a DB. But yeah, you got Trevor Lawrence, you got Brian Thomas Jr., you got Evan Ingram, you got Tank Bigsby, you got Trevor ATN, I mean, ATN. So you got some nice quality pieces, but you're gonna have to protect Trev, and he's gonna have to do a job of protecting himself. They have the number one pick, right? No, Tennessee has the number one pick.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Oh, shoot. Okay, that means Chidor. The Chidor is going first then. Jacksonville's at five. So, let me see. It's, uh, Chidor probably go first to Tennessee. The second would be... I think Cleveland's at two. Then Cam Ward would probably go two. And who were in New England is three, right? No?
Starting point is 00:42:36 Giants are three. New England's four. Jacksonville's five. That might be a shocker right there, two at three. I'm... The question is, would Tennessee be moving to move down? Is there somebody that's in the draft that Tennessee says we must have and we don't believe he'll be available if we slide down to three, four, five, six, seven? That's the question, Ocho, because the question is, are Tennessee one player away, Ocho, or do you need multiple?
Starting point is 00:43:09 Multiple. Okay, if I can slide down and get next year's first rounder, get maybe pick up a second or third this year, and a second and third next year, and in 27 maybe get a fourth, I think that's the best option, because I don't think any of these teams are one player away. Now obviously everybody's not gonna slide down,
Starting point is 00:43:29 but if I can slide down Ocho and really, really, really build, I think I'd be willing to do that. I don't see anyone sliding down, especially with the players that we have going that are slotted in the mountain drafts to go top five. I don't see any coming out of those. No. Mock draft, Ocho.
Starting point is 00:43:55 Shadour Sanders, one. Tennessee. Abdul Carter, the edge rusher out of Penn State, two. Cam Ward, quarterback out of Miami, three. Travis Hunter, the all-, all do it all, wide receiver, cornerback, New England, Mason Graham, D-line, Michigan, Will Johnson, quarterback, Michigan,
Starting point is 00:44:18 Will Campbell, offensive lineman, OT, Jets. Now this is just a mock, Now, this is just a mark. Obviously, clearly, Tennessee needs a court. Now, you know, listening to them talk today, they're like, hey, we're willing to bring Will Leavitt back, but kind of informed him that there's gonna be competition. Yeah, we know what that means. And maybe that would be a good thing for Will.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Maybe that'd be a good thing. Having someone that can help, the force you compete at a high level, to force you to minimize your mistakes, because when you got somebody looking over your shoulder, they can do two things. They can either make you or they can break you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:02 That's a lot of pressure when you know you can't make no mistakes. When you're trying to play mistake-free football, then you start to press. You start to press. I mean, listen, that ain't a good thing. It depends on how he's built mentally. I agree. I think the thing is, Ocho, is that AP did a disservice to the Raiders by winning that game
Starting point is 00:45:22 because they slid down from one all the way to six. Yeah. So there's a possibility that you could lose out on Cam Ward and Shador. Well listen, listen, in the war room you never know what's going to happen. You never know what goes on. They have those phones in there for a reason so maybe something may happen, you know, before the draft or during the draft. And maybe somebody comes up and snatches the player that they want on their board to make sure he doesn't get away.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Well, they really don't have a whole lot of tradeable pieces. The one piece they got is Crosby. Yeah. Max. Max Crosby. That's the one, that's the one piece that everybody would be willing to give up a first round pick or multiple picks for. I don't see anybody else on that roster that they will be willing to give that up for Brock Bowers, but they're not trading Brock Bowers.
Starting point is 00:46:22 That hell not. Brock Bowers, but they're not trading Brock Bowers. That hell not. But Max Crosby is the only one that I see that has the, that has the, the capital attached to him that somebody would be willing to give up. He's the most valuable. He and Brock Bowers are the most valuable pieces. Well, clearly they're not trading Brock Bowers. But I don't think the Raiders are one player away.
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Starting point is 00:50:40 everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Oh Joe, after taking several days, Mark Andrews publicly apologized for dropping the ball on what would have been a game-time two-point conversion. It is impossible to adequately express how I feel. I'm absolutely gutted by what happened on Sunday. I'm devastated for my teammates, my coaches, and Ravens fans.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I pour every ounce of my being into playing at the highest level possible because I love my team and I love the game of football like nothing else. That is why it's taken me until now to collect my thoughts and address this publicly. Even though the shock and disappointment are unlike anything I've felt before, I refuse to let this situation define me. I promise that this adversity will only make me stronger
Starting point is 00:51:38 and fuel us as we move forward. I thank everyone that has shown me and our team genuine support these past several days. Despite the negativity, I've seen heartfelt love and encouragement, including from those who have generously donated to the Breakthrough T1D organization. Even when the moment seemed darkest, perspective can reveal that there is still a lot of light in this world. I'm now going to do my part to bounce back and contribute to it.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Hashtag God bless. Ocho? Yeah. Was this necessary? Uh, no. No. Not at all. Not at all. There's nothing you can do.
Starting point is 00:52:21 There's no point of, you know, writing, writing an apology. Um, there are ups and downs. There are do. There's no point of writing an apology. There are ups and downs, there are obstacles, there are hurdles in a game. You don't owe anybody on the outside of that locker room an apology. You talk to your players, you talk to your teammates, you talk to your coaches, and you let them know how you feel.
Starting point is 00:52:40 There's no need for you to apologize publicly to everyone that hasn't put in the work you've done. They're not there in training camp with you. They're not there at meetings with you. No, they're not bleeding with you. They're not going to war out there with you. Now, they do support you because they are fans of the team. Any apologies should be had within that team to individual players and nobody else, if that's what you see fit in doing.
Starting point is 00:53:08 But that's the birth of brotherhood. Yes. You know, they not gonna keep talking trash about you and oh man, you just. It happens, Ocho. I mean, I remember Ernest Biner and I know EB, I mean, knew EB a long time. He was in Baltimore. Uh, when I was there, he stayed in contact with him.
Starting point is 00:53:28 He fumbled the ball. He was running into the end zone, Ocho. Yeah. He had a touchdown. They would have put the, put the Browns in front of the Broncos and got pulled it out. It happens. Yeah. It happens.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Look at Billy Buckner. The ball went right through his legs. Magic Johnson had a situation they used to call, they called him tragic. He had a chance to win the game. He dropped the time out. They lost it overtime. He was a two-time Finals MVP. Right. So, fans are going to turn. Look, I don't care what you done. Yeah. Or they'll turn on you quick, man. It's a, they're turning you quick. Their loyalty is not with you. The loyalty is there with you simply because you're part of the team they root for. Yeah, that's it. And that is it.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I just say the thing is he came out, he'd come out much better. Just, hey, I'm devastated, guys. We had an opportunity to tie this game up. I like our chances from that point on and just left it. But Ocho, you can't run. You can't run. You don't have to say anything. You ain't about running. No, Ocho, you got to speak after the media.
Starting point is 00:54:44 And let me ask you a question. Had he called it and they won, do you think Mark Andrews would have spoken? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Why? You said he don't have to speak. Oh, I mean, no, I'm saying, right, that written letter, like the paper, that's not necessary. You got it, Ocho. This is why I'm a firm believer. You have to be able to handle adversity
Starting point is 00:55:06 the same way you handle prosperity. Success. Yeah, I didn't realize he didn't speak to the media. He didn't speak after the game and he didn't speak in the exit interview. Yeah, see, I mean, but the whole, the letter thing that's like. Yeah, I didn't write no letter.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Nah, ain't no point for all that, man. I mean, I might write that thing to my booth, eh? He had a great season. Yes! No, Marc Antin dropped four passes this season, huh? He dropped four passes all year long. It just so happened they came at the wrong time. Two of them.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Yes. The Fumble came at the wrong time. Yes. It happened, though, Ocho. I think after that first drop, you know, came at the wrong time. Yes. It happens though, Ocho. I think after that first drop, you know, everything else was in his head after that. But here's the thing, even on the first drop, they went down and got a touchdown. So we can't hold that against them. They scored on that. Yep.
Starting point is 00:55:58 Look, it's at the end of the game. This is what everybody remembers. The fumble, Buffalo went down and got points out of that. The two point conversion, you know, they weren't able to get the onside. Now there was a minute and 33 seconds with two timeouts. Now you're going to have to ask your defense. We'll never know. Maybe the defense gets a turnover and they score and they win the game. Maybe, hey, they go down and Buffalo kick a field goal and they win the game. 30 to 27. We'll never know. But you have to be able to handle adversity the same way you handle success. Because it's not what happens to you that determines what do you do. What if that happens to you? And I believe Mark Andrews has made of the right stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:46 You don't have the success that he's had in this league. He's been an all-pro. He's been a pro bowl player. He's been Lamar Jackson's most reliable weapon since he's been in Baltimore. We can't, there's no denying that. And Zay Flowers had an unbelievable season. But since Lamar's been there and Mark Andrews has been there, Mark Andrews has been his most reliable weapon. And I can imagine I, I, until I've been there, I dropped the pass that would have
Starting point is 00:57:14 given the Broncos home field throughout the playoffs. I just say, if I'm ever in that situation again, right. Ain't happening. Well, five years, six years later, I'm in that situation. Third and eight. Yeah. In the situation in Baltimore, third and 18. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Mark, I promise you, you come back and make a play next year to win a game, win a playoff game. Just keep your head up, bro. You're strong. You're a great player. Um, you're going to be up there with all the other grades, with the Ray Lewis is and the subs and Ed Reed and Peter Bowe, where's in the Mike McQuarrie, uh, the Jonathan Ogden's.
Starting point is 00:58:00 You're going to be up there. You're gonna be all right. You're going to be up there. Yep. You're going to be okay. So pick your head up. I know it's hurting. You're gonna be all right. You're gonna be up there, yep. You're gonna be okay. So, pick your head up. I know it's hurting. I know it hurts, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I know it hurts because of the finality of it. Man, what could have been? You're so close. But bro, you'll be okay. I promise you, you're gonna be okay. And it's tough. You know, all your teammates say, oh Joe, they tried to tell you the right thing, man.
Starting point is 00:58:24 You know, man, hey man, it ain't your fault. We win together, we lose together. But seeing you in that knob right now, that difference was on you. Yeah. That's what I hate. But see, that was different with us. Because I remember we lost to the Giants, Ocho, in 98.
Starting point is 00:58:40 We was 13 and three. Played on a Saturday. And we take the lead, we weren't playing well. TD was really sick, but TD game was an outstanding effort. I think TD might have had 150 yards. TD was sensational. Man, they go 87 yards in three plays. Man, we get on the bus, you know, everybody head down.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I walk by to do the game, that touchdown. Like, you cost us this undefeated season. Damn. Damn. Oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah we were like that on Joe yeah for sure. Yeah Lee. Yeah oh Tim McCaw I said oh yeah you like to cost us you like hey you like to fill out like you did in Pittsburgh. Mm. No. Oh no. But we had, well, oh Joe, we had that type of relationship with the guys.
Starting point is 00:59:31 Oh, we had no problem. You drop a pass or you gave up something. Oh yeah. You had no, oh yeah. You go hear about it. Yeah. They own you. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Oh yeah. For sure. For sure. But you, hey, me, hey Burns. That was, oh, we sure. For sure. But you're, hey, me, hey, Burns, that was, oh, we gonna keep you humble. Oh, oh, especially Ocho, you know what I'm saying? You gave up plays in the game, but come practice, you, Deon.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Right, you all were. But do that in the game. Oh, you got me, you got me locked up. You up there talking, you doing this all in my face. Right. Why did you do that on Sunday? Oh, yeah, Ocho. Yeah. Ha ha ha. Hey, we can let you get too high.
Starting point is 01:00:16 We got to keep you right here. We got to keep you right here. Because if we keep you right here, Ocho... Yeah. ...we know we can have you. You start feeling good about yourself and then all of a sudden you start bulljiving. No, we gotta keep your level.
Starting point is 01:00:31 And so, yeah, I wouldn't have written no letter. Me personally, Ocho, that's him, that's how he handled it. I would have been mad enough to stand up there and in front of the, yeah, I let my team down today, guys. I did. If somebody would have told me I was gonna have an opportunity to atone for the fumble by catching a two-point conversion
Starting point is 01:00:56 and giving our team an opportunity to potentially take this thing to overtime. Little chance. That's all I could ask for. All you want is an opportunity to be in that situation. Because a lot of times, you don't even get an opportunity to be in that situation to catch a game-changing play or a game-winning play. Moments like that come around every so often. Every so often, they don't have it all. They don't happen all the time.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Now it's fortunate enough because of the team he's playing for, they're going to always be in contention and he's going to always be making place for the March action. Yes. So he's gonna be all right. He's gonna be all right. Victory goes to the man that's prepared. Luck they call it.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Victory goes to the man that's prepared. Luck, they call it. Ocho, the cat commanders, DC, Joe Witt, issued a warning to Jalen Hurts and the Eagles. We're going to hit him that way. That's their decision, that they want to get him hit the way that he gets hit. So in other words, you running, Ocho, we just had this conversation yesterday.
Starting point is 01:02:04 Yes, sir. If you tell, you running. Okay, we just had this conversation yesterday. Yes sir. If you tell, you're running your quarterback like a tailback, I'm gonna hit his ass like he a tailback. Yeah. Yeah. I mean what you want me to do? Oh, he a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Nah, he a quarterback when he in this position. When he in this position, he a running back. Yeah. And I'm gonna knock five from it. Hey, free game, free game. Quarterback, running back. Quarterback, running back. Okay.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Put hats on him. Multiple. Hey, we waiting to show the pass for a reason. Ocho, I ain't trying to hurt him. But, if I send him to the sideline a couple of plays, I'm not disappointed. All right. Ocho, I ain't trying to hurt him. But if I send him to the sideline a couple of plays, I'm not disappointed. All right.
Starting point is 01:02:49 I'm just gonna be honest with you. Right. I'm just being honest. Hey, when I was on special teams, Ocho, I had a simple philosophy. I ain't trying to knock you out for the season, but if I knock your ass out of this game, I'm not mad. You did your job.
Starting point is 01:03:03 Yes. That's not my responsibility to protect your quarterback, Ocho. That's the officer coordinator's job to protect him. You gonna run him on a power? You keep running that feeling, that tush push or whatever they call it. If you run him up the middle, I'm gonna knock his ass out.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I'm gonna try to, I'm for real. What you want me to do, Ocho? Listen, the players in today's game, especially on the defensive side of the ball, they are at a huge disadvantage. The rules are not in their favor by any means, and obviously the NFL knows exactly what they're doing, because they want to see more points, huh? I do. They do.
Starting point is 01:03:43 I know they do. You know what it attracts? It attracts more viewers. It attracts viewers, absolutely. Yeah. So. But, uh, hey, you do realize, Commander, you got a quarterback that runs too now. Mm-hmm. What you think they thinking? They think they're going to minimize those legs. As Al Davis used was just saying only one if you have to in The first couple of series the quarterback must go down and he must go down hard We come in cuz I'll show I Can see right the light at the end of the tunnel. It's the Super Bowl
Starting point is 01:04:24 In New Orleans. Yeah. I'm 60 minutes away from my destination. Nothing else matters. Nothing. I'm going to leave it all on the field. Some of you guys worked a lifetime for this moment. Don't you let this opportunity pass you by. Don't you let this moment slip through your grasp? Yeah
Starting point is 01:04:47 Did you might not get it again? You never know? Look around The guy that's sitting next to you is not promised he's gonna be there next year The coaches that's in this room, they're not promised to be here next year. Don't worry about tomorrow. Tomorrow is today. It doesn't matter if we're the better team. It only matters if we prove we're the better team.
Starting point is 01:05:21 On that specific day. I don't need you to be the reason. I don't need you to be the reason we win. I just need you to be the reason we don't lose. Hold on there, that's a good one. I got to use that. Hey, boy, you gotta bring that to me one more time. That's a good one. I don't want you to be, I want you to be the reason.
Starting point is 01:05:51 You don't have to be the reason we win. Just don't be the reason why we lose. This is really why I kind of like playoff football because everybody's so attentive, because everybody's doing the finales. Ain't nobody late, everybody making weight, Ocho. Everybody doing everything because they know. I'm like, why y'all can't do this during the season?
Starting point is 01:06:22 You do realize the season is trying to put us in position to be where we are now Yeah Man this opportunity man, oh Joe whoo You know it you feel the intensity practice is different meetings are different, right? Coaches ownaches are on edge. Guys, your leaders, hey, picked it up. Hey, Mike, let me see that again. Run that play again.
Starting point is 01:07:03 You don't run plays so you get them right, Ocho. You run plays till you can't get them wrong. That's why you do it. So it's second nature. It doesn't matter. Like clockwork. Just like that. Now, Sunday's a dress rehearsal.
Starting point is 01:07:27 You done this? You practice this? I don't hear nothing. I don't see nothing. I see the man across from me. I see the man I need to be. That is it. That is it. Somebody. Dreams will be met. That is it. Somebody dreams will be met. Somebody dreams get delayed.
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